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>> No.13576092

gen 6 will be more lore cause they need it for alternative and their games

>> No.13576168

>>13576092
fpwp

>> No.13576193

Is council doing fine?

>> No.13576211

>I will project my hatred of lore onto the Japanese and claim they have my same exact tastes

>> No.13576221 [DELETED] 

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR (embed)

>> No.13576227 [DELETED] 

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.13576284

kek retards

>> No.13576316

fuck, I deleted mine since it got posted already. I'll post it again after this

>> No.13576325
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13576325

hours
>Mori 94.8
>Kiara 84.4
>IRyS 73.8
>Sana 56.4
>Ina 38.8
>Bae 38.1
>Gura 36.4
>Fauna 34.3
>Mumei 35.1
>Ame 33.9
>Kronii 21.6

>> No.13576352

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.13576448

why's this thread so dead?

>> No.13576566

>>13576448
It’s literally thanksgiving. Even NEETs have to eat dinner before disappearing into their rooms

>> No.13576578

>>13576325
Damn Mori leading in EN? Wish she tries to chase her CCV too, to be at least have a good numbers in all metric possible

>> No.13576587

>>13576448
SEA work hours

>> No.13576661

>>13576566
>Even NEETs have to be forced to eat dinner with their family before disappearing into their rooms
FTFY

>> No.13576721

>>13576578
I don’t think she can keep up these hours consistently but even if she drops back a bit it’s a huge increase in watch hours. Maybe she is chasing that premium while she can.

>> No.13576954
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13576954

Elira got her game sponsorship but they had her shill it on the worst day possible.

>> No.13577027

>>13576325
Fake numbers, Gura is number 1.
Cope.

>> No.13577319

>>13576566
>you neets are so poor you cant afford to live in complete solitude
learn how be an unloved shit like me

>> No.13577332

>>13576954
goodbye good numbers, goodbye sponsors

>> No.13577410
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13577410

Towa and Roboco going to be official re-streams of R6S JP league for two days.

>> No.13577463
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13577463

moona I kneel

>> No.13577476

>>13576325
3 Holos over 1 million and Miko could easily get to 2 million which would mean 2 hit that milestone. Also 3 EN members in the top 10 which hasn't happened in a while. Really stromg month for Hololive all around.

>> No.13577554

>>13577463
Go Moona Go

>> No.13577805

>>13576954
9pm on Thanksgiving? For fucks sake why?!? People are in a food coma, drinking, or watching football in the US. Even neets like mashed potatoes and pie

>> No.13577854

>>13577410
nice

>> No.13577931

>>13577410
Toaw...!

>> No.13577956
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13577956

Moona just hit her usual 3K for Rebroadcast

>> No.13577981

>>13577410
Guess being designated FPS chubba in Hololive does have some merits.

>> No.13578105

>>13576025
They didn't care because no one had to deal with shit outside of their own streams. That changed though. YAGOO is all in on trying to make his company sustainable beyond the fade of VTubers by turning them into a polymorphic content franchise like Type/Moon and Square Enix did their franchises. If they do end up going deeper on the lore shit, then they will end up being more serious about it.

This assume that this is HoloJP6 and not HloFes3 which wouldn't be postponed for a year... right?

>> No.13578151

>>13578105
If they're angling for a live audience again, Fes3 won't be until next year. This also dodges the overlap with the lives that are happening in January.

>> No.13578217

>>13576954
Why didn't they just pony up for council or something? Ina mogged that number iirc

>> No.13578235

>>13578105
Yagoo is thinking long term which I think is smart of him.
I hope to god it's not Holofes3, no crowd noises make concerts a lot more lifeless.

>> No.13578464

>>13577981
Botan ...

>> No.13578477

>>13576325
Gura streamed almost 1/3 of Mori, and half of IRyS, and yet her viewing hours is 10% ahead of IRyS and only 10% behind Mori. Shark is still strong among ENs, huh?

>> No.13578512

They normally do the big announcements like new gen or concerts out of nowhere on twitter. Feels like it will be nothing big considering they just put that in a community tab on YT...

>> No.13578519

>>13578151
>>13578235
I was mostly addressing the elephant in the room from the perspective of a corporation with a long term schedule already planned out. I am certain that they can tank a year off of their main event, but I'm just not sure if they had already made preparations for a post-COOF concert this year (that clearly didn't pan out the way that they hoped). Concert halls need to be reserved well in advance after all.

>> No.13578535

>>13577981
Towa's ALGS watch-along did pretty well except that was because she was watching her friends, who the fuck plays r6 in this day and age

>> No.13578566

>>13578464
Nah, Botan might (or might not) be better than Towa and RBC in term of skills, but the latter are more dedicated to FPS than the former.

>> No.13578572

>>13578512
>a video announcement
>nothing big

>> No.13578653

maybe it is a big sponsorship like the nissin one

>> No.13578699

>>13578653
They would've tweet it about it by now.
I think is a HoloAlt stuff like a manga CM or something along.

>> No.13578818

>>13578653
They don't do corporate announcements like that. Normally, they would issue a press release first, since that would still be classified as a work in progress until the day of release.

>> No.13578827

>>13578477
Cope chumfaggot. Calli is the EN frontrunner now and IryS is a better singer than your memeshart

>> No.13579356
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13579356

That's a lot of Pokemon Streams

>> No.13579426

>>13579356
there's literally 4 you fuck

>> No.13579469

Edengumi >>>> JP6
For the first month amyways.

>> No.13579484

>>13578827
Why are you so sensitive, anon? I was just pointing out observable facts using numbers. I didn't say that Gura is better than either Mori or IRyS and that wasn't my intention at all.

>> No.13579515

>>13579469
Who wins the long game though?

>> No.13579564

>>13579356
that's some embarassing numbers right there. EN really needs to come up with a new group narrative soon to drum interest again.

>> No.13579584

>>13579469
Edengumi had no one to piggyback off of other than hype.
Holo6JP will have hype AND big name girls shilling them. Edengumi didn't get shilled by any livers other than people reacting to their Twitter profiles and laughing. I feel like the Holo girls would shill the new gen hard.

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13579587

Hilarious how the number thread keeps avoiding discussion of these numbers.

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>>13579587
For a comparison sake. Niji events usually get 98-99% for the first option.

>> No.13579670

>>13579587
????????
You're the first person to post it here, also translate or provide a summary if you're gonna do that ya faggot.

>> No.13579677

>>13579587
Context?

>> No.13579701

>>13579587
translate, weeb. please

>> No.13579722

>>13579634

Wow, 1 to 2% difference... Holo mogged..........

>> No.13579740

>>13579587
>>13579634
Explanation for eops and those who aren't familiar with niconico system.
>How would you rate the program/stream?
>1. Awesome
>2. Good
>3. Ok
>4. Not that good
>5. Bad

>> No.13579764

>>13579587
>>13579634
Okay.

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>>13579587
Interesting.
Pic related is Mito's solo live that had audio sync issues, NND shat itself as usual and broke in the middle of it, and the archive/timeshift wasn't available until days later so they could fix the audio
Is there context to that Gen 3 concert, were there technical issues? Because that really is a low score (not really, but usually people don't even click the 2nd option so I find it kind of strange that anything other than loved or hated even got more than 0.5%.)

>> No.13579811

>>13579587
NND audience have a hate boner on HL since some of their talents abandon NND, don't they?

>> No.13579840

>>13579515
JP6 will probably mog. Lain is a sub 1k view a lot of the time.

>> No.13579859

>>13579587
>>13579634
>>13579778
is this a NND exclusive thing?

>> No.13579870

>>13579740
Thank you.
Well, didn't they try something a bit different this time for the Live? I wouldn't be surprised if that's why the score is a bit more critical this time. Also, not that i don't believe this but...>>13579634
You got any screenshots to back that up?

>> No.13579881

>>13579811
You can only vote on that if you paid for the ticket. To say that they got those dislikes from paid viewers who dislike them because they left NND is delusion

>> No.13579897

>>13579811
>some

>> No.13579901

>>13579670
Maybe because your friendly neighborhood matomeshitter only dumps niji stuff here

>> No.13579908

>>13579778

>Is there context to that Gen 3 concert

Probably not everyone liked the segments in between the songs. Idk, it felt very different from your usual Holo concert.

>> No.13579934

>>13579740
>>13579778
Can non ticket holders vote too?

>> No.13579957

>>13579811
Ummm, anon. Do you really think their haters will pay for event just to tick the vote at the end? Because only those who paid for tickets can rate them.

>> No.13579964

>>13579897
Sora is still streaming, bro.

>> No.13579986

>>13579934
No, this survey only appears at the end of the show which is well beyond the free section. Likely it was the pseudo-musical component to the concert, but it probably wasn't written in a way that these particular talents could play it properly.

>> No.13580081

>>13579859
No idea about spwn since I never used it.

>> No.13580166

>>13579986
Well, Ill chalked it up to higher number of audience, for example, 10k attended gen 3 concert online that caused a large shift of opinions while 1k attended Mito and those were her usual fans that responded positively. Other than that, Chinese restreamers voting or EOPs that doesnt understand nip but voted randomly.

>> No.13580167

>>13580081
well I bought a spwn ticket and didn't got this survey

>> No.13580183

>>13580081
SPWN didn't have something like that for Suisei's live.

>> No.13580185

>>13579901
>matome
I got the Mito screenshot off /vt/

>> No.13580192

>>13579778
Well you can't deny that nijisanji's concerts are generally better than Holo's. Compared to niji's hololive concerts seems more like it's produced by boomers.

>> No.13580242

>>13580185
He's talking about the one anon that loves to steal shitposts from matome lamenting the state of niji numbers.

>> No.13580333

>>13579778
People who watched Mito's concert liked it better. I'm not sure what to make of it. Most of global and hlg thought it was underwhelming.

>> No.13580352

>>13580166
>Chinese restreamers voting or EOPs that doesnt understand nip but voted randomly.
Again it's a vote that only ticket holders on NND who PAID FOR THE CONCERT can participate in, surely there aren't that many EOP who bought a ticket and randomly clicked the 2nd option
>>13580192
I thought Suisei's was really nice. Sure it doesn't have AR but to be honest, Nijisanji spams it.
I chalked up the other votes for Gen3 concert due to being tech issues as whenever that happens, NND users like to click "bad performance" despite tech issues being a fun NND feature. But reading the livepost thread I guess it wasn't a typical concert as it had skits. Unless the content of the concert wasn't talked about beforehand by the girls

>> No.13580472

>>13580166
Chink hate was at peak during this concert tho >>13579634

>> No.13580486

>>13580352
it was like a musical

>> No.13580529

>>13580352
>Aren't many EOPs
The concert trended yesterday in the US

>> No.13580618

Moona, from HoloID, has more CCV than all of niji en combined now. On a rebroadcast.
Damn

>> No.13580624

Yea, could just be EOPs being clueless. Can you change your vote after voting?

>> No.13580631

>>13580352
They took a different approach and made it more like a vmusical thing. It was always going to be more divisive. Personally, I hope they go back to the old live concert format because this just didn't do it for me.

>> No.13580680

>>13580529
Read the rest of my sentence, or is there some USA trend to click the middle choices of polls they don't understand that I'm not aware of? I'm not denying they didn't watch it. So many Hololive girls talked about it.
>>13580624
No

>> No.13580687

>>13580624
why would EOPs buy tickets from NND?

>> No.13580708

>>13580352
The concert was shit, and I say that as a hardcore nousagi that paid for the ticket.
I applaud the balls to try something new, but this wasn`t the road to take it to

>> No.13580711

>>13580352

>I guess it wasn't a typical concert as it had skits

It definitely wasn't and the girls only talked about how different it would be in specific interviews. I think it was ok for the most part but it's inevitable that most people probably went expecting the usual format for Holo concerts and got disappointed.

>> No.13580726

>>13580352
It was not a great concert. I'm a holo super fan but I was left disappointed. Rushia can't dance for shit and that imited what the competent dancers could do.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, nothing too deep about it. I'm not sure why we should treat it like an indictment or as something to penis wag aboit.

>> No.13580761

>>13580631
Funniest part was the lack of encore.
Both Kiara and Kanata said "Wait, that's it?" when the concert ended without one.

>> No.13580803

>>13580618
The master of leeching

>> No.13580834

>>13580726
Is talking about numbers not allowed anymore?

>> No.13580865
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Two sides of HoloID...

>> No.13580898

>>13580834
Well they are, but it just seems to me people didn't like it as much rather than some grand overreaching plot.

>> No.13580936

>>13580618
is she the only one who does this karaoke rebroadcasts? I wish some holos do it too

>> No.13581018

>>13580936
Mori and Kiara have also done it, but Moona is the one who has started to do it consistently.

>> No.13581029

>>13580618
Her Karaoke numbers are consistently good

>>13580936
Mori does, Ame has one in an hour

>> No.13581134

>>13580898
And no one said it's a grand overreaching plot, not sure where you got that idea from. if I were a teenager I'd call it cope when anons say that EOP are the reason they didn't get 99% "awesome" votes.

>> No.13581235

>>13576448
all the numberfags should die

>> No.13581282

>>13578105
The first Holofes took place early 2021 and there was less than a year between it and the second, they could push 3 to early 2022 and it wouldn't be a big deal.

>> No.13581342

>>13580761
Yeah, kek. The "that's it?" reaction was pretty universal. I really appreciate & respect that they tried something different, but this felt like a miss.

>> No.13581353

>>13581134
It is. I'm just saying that all it indicates is people who watched it didn't like it as much. It's not the same group of people who watch Mito's live so it isn't really testing the same control group. The Gen 3 concert tried for something that didn't work and only 93% gve it the highest rating.

>> No.13581394

>>13580711
>>13580898
Musicals are nice, but they should at least watch how a real musical usually performs. They don't just sing covers, they sing their own songs that blends well to the story itself. I thought to myself why is Hot limit in here? Why are they doing this on an island?

If I was the creative director, I'd have Pekora leading the front first in a peko kingdom, singing her OG song then she meets up with Noel in a church, Noel sings her song, then to the library to meet Rushia, Rushia sings. They do a skit together and how they want to go for an adventure. Pekora the princess asks if Noel could be her knight and bodyguard while Rushia be the brains of the group. They sneak together on a wharf and saw marine, marine sings ahoy to welcome them. Another skit where they ride her ship to another place and find a forest with flare there. Flare sings. They all battle a monster for Kino points then for the final acts, they sing their group song.

>> No.13581406

>>13579587
Even without comparisons with nijis, most of the times these things have 95%+ scores on the first option
Nips are particularly keen on voting the first option due to their subservient personality and culture so it's kinda telling that the scores are as weird as they are

>> No.13581413

> Gura's CCV is inclining as EOPs finished their thanksgiving dinner.

>> No.13581441

last chance before Hololive drops that announcement video, any guess?

>> No.13581467

>>13581406
Strange considering usually it's Niji fanbase who is quick to lash out at their own chuubas when people fuck up and Holo fanbase would rather coddle the talents

>> No.13581577

the announcement is probably season 2 of that game show, right

>> No.13581583

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqmh-8qU5Wg

gen 6

>> No.13581597

Fucking finally

>> No.13581596

>GEN 6
>GEN 6
>GEN 6
https://youtu.be/vqmh-8qU5Wg

>> No.13581606

>>13581577
That was already announced though.

>> No.13581649

>>13581467
It's nousagis trolling

>> No.13581653

>>13581583
>>13581596
Well shit. I would be lying if I said i was expecting it to be Gen 6

>> No.13581658

TIKTOK NIJISANJI HAHAHA 5 days straight 100k

>> No.13581676

>>13581413
Well, Ina finished her stream actually. Funneled into both Mumei and Gura as a result.

>> No.13581755

>>13581596
HERE WE GO BOYS AND GALS

>> No.13581785

>>13581596
Now THIS is how you drop a new gen.

>> No.13581832

Well fuck me sideways

>> No.13581860

>>13581596
Demon loli is gonna mog them all so fucking hard, last girl is probably going to be the weakest judging by her design (In terms of numbers)

>> No.13581894

>>13581583
>>13581596
That's a damn good PV

>> No.13581902

gen 6 broke /vt/ for me. anyone else?

>> No.13581909

WAIT SCRATCH THAT IM THE TOO WINNERS ANON AND I DIDNT EXPECT THEM TO DEBUT TONIGHT AND THIS WEEK LMAO. ALL THE LAST DAYS OF NOVEMBER IS FILLED WITH THE GIRLS.

>> No.13581954

>>13581596
>>13581583
ngl the music was good

>> No.13581962

>>13581583
>>13581596
Really good PV! I'm very hyped!

>> No.13581975

Is that a cunny? How may subs will she get?

>> No.13582062

>>13581975
Enough that YT is gonna cull the shit outta these poor gals.
It happened with the Sony Chubbas, its gonna happen to these gals. Hope they've been forewarned.

>> No.13582078

Fucking debuting over the next 5 days primetime wtf

>> No.13582082

>>13581596
>>13581583
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
artists will be having fun in the next few weeks
dem designs

>> No.13582124

>>13581954
The music is banging

>> No.13582129

>>13580352
pre-recorded singing, little to no choreography, too many skit. it honestly feels like a normal 3D stream. Peoples had high expectation because watame and suisei's sololive.

>> No.13582189

>>13581583
>>13581596
PV is good, the designs are good too

>> No.13582234

unless i got my timezones wrong the first one is going to debut in 9 hours
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/r2d9mn/hololive_6th_generation_secret_society_holox_to/

>> No.13582273

>mishima kurone
>kakage
>parsley
>momoco
Kakage finally become mama kek

>> No.13582304

>>13581583
>HoloX
>X
>When they're 6 not 5
WHY?

>> No.13582314

>>13582234
Yes it is today

>> No.13582335

>>13582129
This. If I was on NicoNico I would have voted option 2. I enjoyed the show quite a bit but Suisei and Watame raised the bar. This one was lacking compared to those. Still a good show though which I why I would have voted option 2.

>> No.13582365

When will this board be usable again? There is just so much shitposting to be spum from this

>> No.13582369

What the fuck, today's the start of the debut?

>> No.13582382

>>13582304
>x
>5
your roman numeral rep...

>> No.13582415

laplas : 2021年11月26日(金)21:00~
lui: 2021年11月27日(土)21:00〜
koyori: 2021年11月28日(日)21:00~
chloe: 2021年11月29日(月)21:00~
iroha: 2021年11月30日(火)21:00~

well guys... 5 days straight gold

>> No.13582417

>>13582365
Between this and Nux's underage discord raid, my tiny generals are in danger

>> No.13582421

And with that, Niji lose another month.

>> No.13582465

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCENwRMx5Yh42zWpzURebzTw
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_vMYWcDjmfdpH6r4TTn1MQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIBY1ollUsauvVi4hW4cumw
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6eWCld0KwmyHFbAqK3V-Rw
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs9_O1tRPMQTHQ-N_L6FU2g

>> No.13582517

>>13582415
Welp
Niji getting shut out for the rest of the month.
>>13582417
Yeeeeaaaa, rip tiny generals, gonna be like when Council debuted.

>> No.13582538

>>13582273
I guess this is why he stopped seething about not being a mama in august.

>> No.13582540

>>13582421
They just can't catch a break ...

>> No.13582560

rip niji 3d tonight...

>> No.13582575

>>13577463
how much did she get on the live and not the rebroadcast

>> No.13582607

>holo jp6
It's over, nijibros....

>> No.13582632

>>13582415
Jesus Christ Cover is brutal

>> No.13582641

>>13582560
I feel so bad for her. Barely anyone even watches her in the first place.

>> No.13582664

>>13582421
I mean, they already lost the month a few days ago

>> No.13582677

>>13582560
Yagoo : Nijisanji has 3D tonight? Unleash JP6.

>> No.13582707

>>13581583
>Hololive has a janitor as part of a Gen now
Lamy...

>> No.13582711

>>13582560
>>13582607
ILLEGAL CHUUBA DEBUT FUNNELING

>> No.13582805

>>13582465
No vids on the channels, so clearly they don't believe the "empty channel gets fucked by susan" theory or they just don't care.

>> No.13582831

>>13582415
>Chuubas who didn't exist 15 minutes ago are going to have more golds this month than Kuzuha
KEK

>> No.13582839

>>13582415
> Laplus, the leader going first
This is like a reverse Council. I think she might get the highest CCV. I wonder how it would go for the other four girls.

>> No.13582841

>>13582465
I'm afraid to sub now because of the cull

>> No.13582866

alright, will any one of them break the record set by gen 5 Shishiro Botan of most debut CCV. reminder that not even Gura was able to beat it.

>> No.13582930

>>13582538
I love how all the shitposters doomposting about how "Hololive couldn't get 5 people for a new gen so they cancelled the old models" and then not even a month later, bam, gen6. It was pretty clear they canned the models so there would be no more loose ends.

>> No.13582947

Watch the subs jump every time you refresh the page.

>> No.13582949

6k subs already. Can someone run a sub watcher on these girls? Would be nice to see if the cull would happen mid stream or so.

>> No.13582967

>>13582273
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRnrsXZgBXs

he was crying not long ago... kakage...

>> No.13582985

>>13582805
>>13582839
the first girl is literally debuting tonight and the other girls the following nights. I don't think the purge will be as bad this time. might get shadow banned though

>> No.13583009

>>13582947
Yeah, why the fuck aren't we numberfagging this? Deploy the screenshots goddamnit. How LONG does it take for them to beat Ankimo?!

>> No.13583014

>>13582465
I have never gotten unsubbed from any of the culls

>> No.13583063

Still no holofes announcement huh

>> No.13583076

>>13582831
>actually true
my sides

>> No.13583088

I wonder if debuting so soon after announcement is a good play? This is how Apple does it with iPhones, right, they do the keynote and say you can go order tonight or whatever. I like it as an experiment.

>> No.13583164

>>13582560
It wasn't going to get a high number anyways. Won't be surprised if it will be even lower than Hajime's.

>> No.13583212

>>13582866
probably not unless they start trending right now

>> No.13583242

>>13583088
Yeah could've waited at least a week or days for maximum possible audience hype

>> No.13583261

>>13582805
Depends on how you see it I think. My first thought when I saw their debut schedule was "If you are debuting on the same day you start gaining subs, guess YT wouldn't be removing that many subs".
Otherwise, it seems like some pretty sudden debuts. Will the shock factor be enough to make up for the hype-building process?

>> No.13583288

>>13583088
There's no time to build hype but Hololive is probably betting that their branding is so strong that nearly 100k people will make time to watch these debuts even without much advertisement.

>> No.13583302

I guess we can already write off the gold for the next five days.

>> No.13583306 [DELETED] 

>>13583088
>>13583242
We're forgetting the fact that a lot of overseas viewers are celebrating Thanksgiving

>> No.13583308

>>13583088
Usually things like this meant that they have no room left to spare during December, so what awaits December, we don't know yet but it's okay enough for debuts to be this fast instead of giving a 2 or 3 day headstart.

Maybe, it's because this is a strategy to prevent a cull?

>> No.13583336

Alright guys, which one is Lulu and Nun Bora

>> No.13583348

>>13583088
they want them in hololive new year stream

>> No.13583360
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13583360

Finally Hololive adds another cunny chuuba. This brings them up to 3 cunny chuubas alongside Gura and Shion. They are still lagging behind in the cunny field.

>> No.13583375

>>13583242
They're taking a page out of Nintendo's playbook, keep things hush hush and then drop the product when its ready with very little delay between the announcement and availability.

>> No.13583441

>>13583336
Bora literally too early
I will kneel so far if they actually got Lulu and Gibara

>> No.13583449

>>13583014
You don't get unsubbed on your end. That would be retarded. Your sub might not get counted in the channels numbers though.

>> No.13583511

>>13583288
It's already trending #1 on Twitter.

>> No.13583534

I have a feeling this strategy is going to be fine for Hololive. The hype of the announcement can transfer immediately into the debuts. My numbers senses are tingling...

>> No.13583549

Will they get doxxed before a debut too?

>> No.13583551
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HoloX sub timestamp

> 10k already

>> No.13583624

>Selen Ollie collab cancelled

>> No.13583664

>>13583549
How. There's no voices. They will get doxxed after debut for sure if they are well known enough.

>> No.13583679

>>13583549
How could they possibly, there aren't even any voice clips on that preview vid. All people will have are guesses.

>> No.13583763

>>13583624
based if true

>> No.13583765

>>13583549
No, because there's no fucking time to go digging and unlike NijiEN, Hololive scouting practices tend to be a mix and match instead of raiding the indie scene.

>> No.13583789

now it's probably a good time to start monitoring their sub counts

>> No.13583821

>>13583624
Maybe for the recent collabs with Vshoujo? I don't think is on Ollie's field but who knows is manager-san stop that.

>> No.13583861

>>13583664
>>13583679
Last time it was thanks to Nene.

>> No.13583888
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13583888

My autoplay feed...
Hololive is brutal.

>> No.13583915

>Almost every holo members awake is talking/posting about the new gen
this box pushing is ILLEGAL

>> No.13583918

>>13583861
Very little time for goofy yabs, but anything is possible

>> No.13583996

>>13583888
kek, black magic
coincidence too they dropped this after vshojo drama

>> No.13584024

lmao remember when some fags here were saying there weren't any new HoloJP members because Cover announced that those 2 designs they released didn't have anyone qualified?

>> No.13584090

>>13584024
I remember

>> No.13584192

>gura ends
>mumei gains 2k+
>bae gains around 500
is the guardians game really that shit?

>> No.13584206

Nijibros.. You guys will get like 7 gold this month kek

>> No.13584222

Will people still keep saying that following nijisanji is impossible because they have too many members but manageable with hololive at this point?

>> No.13584223

>>13584024
Yeah and it turns out thay they have another (better) design for them.

>> No.13584245

>>13584024
Yes, and this thread pretty much came to the conclusion that that was a retarded take. Surprise surprise, GEN 6 within the month. Tying up loose ends and taking the rep hit to prevent any issues with "why weren't these models used?!" by saying that it was cover being unable to find a match instead of it being the Talents rejecting the models as not to their tastes.

>> No.13584249

>>13583549
no, because we're not nips and have no knowledge in the nnd streamersphere.

>> No.13584271

>>13584024
Retard. That's what the tweet that Cover released.

>> No.13584287

>>13584223
Tanuki chuuni girl was still better than any of those.

>> No.13584309

>Vshojo drama ongoing
>Niji 3d debut for one of their low tier members
>Right after Gen 3 Concert

This is inexplicably good timing for a debut.

>> No.13584318

>>13584192
Is the best Marvel game SE has done but is not Spiderman or even Ultimate Alliance 3.

>> No.13584363

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - NOVEMBER 2021

1) Marine (Hololive) - 34.7k - Karaoke
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 42.5 - Minecraft (Sport fest prep)
3) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 48.9k - Announcement
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 36.4k - Rhythm Heaven
5) Luis Cammy (Nijisanji) - 39.4k - 3D Debut
6) Miko (Hololive) - 81.5k - Minecraft Sports Fest
7) Miko (Hololive) - 69.7k - Sport Fest Totsu
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.6k - Evil God korone
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 44k - Evil God Korone
10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 56k - Kuzuha Concert Free Part
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 55k - First FFXIV stream
12) Fumi (Nijisanji) - 38k - 3D Debut
13) Rushia (Hololive) - 81k - Outfit reveal
14) Marine (Hololive) - 81.8k - Subaru's High profile case
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 83.3k - Birthday 3D
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 31.8k - Ape Escape 3
17) Marine (Hololive) - 34k - Bus Simulator
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 82.5k - Minecraft Mod with Marine
19) Towa (Hololive) - 47.5k - Mario Party
20) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 95k - Splatoon Tpurney day 1
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 88.2k - Splatoon Tourney day 2
22) Subaru (Hololive) - 31.5k - Pokemon Challenge (vs Okayu)
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.7k - Karaoke Relay
24) Noel (Hololive) - 56.9k - Birthday Totsu
25) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 58.6k - Gen 3 Concert Free Part

New debuts:
26) La+ Darknesss
27) Takane Lui
28) Hakui Koyori
29) Sakamata Chloe
30) Kazama Iroha

>This does not slip!

>> No.13584397

>>13584249
I wasn't talking about you though.

>> No.13584416

>>13584206
they got 4 gold in a month before. they can live with this

>> No.13584422

>>13584222
Yes

>> No.13584442

>>13584222
I don't even know how many people are in Niji so I googled it. Apparently: "107 Japanese NIJISANJI members, 19 NIJISANJI ID members, 20 NIJISANJI KR members, 10 NIJISANJI EN members and 46 VirtuaReal members (a joint venture chinese branch between Bilibili and Anycolor)." Niji chuuba spam isn't even in the same universe as Hololive.

>> No.13584448

>>13583624
Isn't this supposedly the 2nd time (assuming it was Ollie last time)? This collab seems pretty cursed

>> No.13584450
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13584450

>>13584287
The artist for tanuki is this one's mama.

>> No.13584454

>>13584192
the avengers game just burned people way too hard also people have seen this already with ame and maybe even more if you watch fbk,subaru and korone.

>> No.13584479

>>13584192
It's not a great game, I'll tell you that much. Also, as a property, once Endgame was done a lot of people I know were like "yea, that was a good spot to stop" and stopped really caring as much about capeshit movies. It doesn't help that 'rona hit and going out to see movies hadn't really been a thing for a while.

>> No.13584506

>>13584450
what about the other girl? did they rehire the artist?

>> No.13584538

>>13584222
Yes. Because Nijisanji will still poop talents like it's nothing.They literally have half-baked vtubers as well.

>> No.13584553

>>13584363
KEK COVER WANTS TO GOLD FOR THE LAST 5 DAYS OF NOVEMBER

>> No.13584556

>>13583549
Nenechi is on a break so no.

>> No.13584566

>>13584506
The bird, bro.

>> No.13584590 [DELETED] 

>>13584192
I watched ame's stream and it was really annoying because it kept just skipping scenes if they had licensed music. It's a bad stream game.

>> No.13584591

>>13584222
Yes. Even with more numbers, you can see any Hologirl on their respective gen or custom group and will interact with the others, making them relevant for the fanbase.

>> No.13584597

Lamy just broke 10k off the impromptu gen 5 collab and gen 6 hype, though she was already holding 6k+ all by herself before this.

>> No.13584604

https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1464074280967106567
even fucking yagoo is shitposting

>> No.13584620

>>13584442
That wasn't my point. My point was about whether hololive's box pushing can handle this amount or not. Holoid is already dying.

>> No.13584660
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13584660

HoloX sub timestamp

> 15k already

>> No.13584674

>>13584566
>>13584506
nice of Cover rehiring artists.

>> No.13584679
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13584679

>>13584506
Yes.

>> No.13584726

>debuts immediately after gen announcement to counter the Susan fuckery
>except they're days apart, so the last girls will likely be hit by Susan anyway

Is this a test? Are they using 6th Gen as an experiment to see how Youtube handles its sub culling?

>> No.13584730

>>13583449
NTA, but I actually was unsubbed from Kronii and Baelz before, twice even. No idea why, or why those two, though (my Mumei, Fauna and Sana subs remained untouched). I have FBK, Lamy, Mio and IRyS members so I doubt my account looked like some bots if YT just took a quick look at it

>> No.13584747

>>13584674
Relationships with professional illustrators are valuable things and not to be wasted, so it makes a lot of sense they'd offer them new characters to draw.

>> No.13584782

>>13584674
They go out of their way to avoid burning bridges with artists, which makes you wonder why Suisei's artist and mizuryu hates them so much

>> No.13584812

>>13584620
Box pushing for holos are very strategic. They give space and time. They provide streams that provides timely circumstances that generates interactions.

>> No.13584857

>>13584730
They also do shadow sub where your sub is not counted even if you are subbed to these channels.

>> No.13584880

cunny taking the lead in subs
as epxected

>> No.13584888

>>13584620
no one watch indogs

>> No.13584889

Gen 6 is a good news for nijis. They will leech shit out of other holos and king will claim his throne back.

There is no reasons to assume that new gen will bring new viewers instead of poaching from the current base. Nijis spread themselves thin and now holos will follow.

>> No.13584920

So given that it is likely doubtful that Hololive will drastically expand their audience with this new gen after an initial interest period and this will be the first JP Gen debut since the golden era boom buff, which girls do you think will see a slight culling effect on their core audience? Brand as a whole will be more successful but there is bound to be a slight loser or two in terms of members and viewers.

>> No.13584924

T-they're not gonna mog nijen wave 3 subs right?

>> No.13584945

>>13584812
All holos will talk about the new gens on their 20k ccv streams and hype the people to watch them. Clips will be made and shit.

>> No.13584981

>>13582415
>>13582465
Wait wtf? Usually, there is 4-5 days space before they debut.
For their debut i predict:
Laplas: 60k-75k
Lui: 60k-80k
Koyori: 85k
Chloe: 90k
Iroha: 95k
Why is the first two so low? because it's a guerilla debut lmfao!!!
Not to mention possible EOPs are still drunk or busy bonding due to Thanksgiving.

>> No.13584994

>>13584888
People used to before EN was a thing. Now there are two EN gens and nobody cares.

>> No.13585010

When is the date of the pokemon tournament again?

I wonder if their early release is also to accomodate for some events due to next month. There is also new year outfits and the Mario Kart new year tournament which I suspect that it will incorporate EN/ID this time.

>> No.13585014

>>13584924
They will in a week or so.

>> No.13585018

>>13584782
bad management for the former, autism for the latter

>> No.13585049

>>13585014
>a week
give it 3 days

>> No.13585081

>>13584782
Menheras, not even once.
Suisei's artist, almost certainly a braindead take that 'oh no, Cover is involved in yabs, better burn my bridges like an idiot'.
Mizuryu looks to be a case of menhera sperging on twitter and realizing 'ah shit what have I done' too late. Potentially over money, but iirc dude has a rep of being a bit of a sperg and even Jp antis were like "Oh yea, Mizuryu is definitely at fault for this one".

>> No.13585102

>>13584920
It depends on who are the talents that they were able to nab this time. If there's even one pro gamer in that group. That girl is going to get a big chunk of new viewers

>> No.13585105

>>13585049
I expect Susan to cut them so a week for real (dead) subs.

>> No.13585115

>>13584271
You were either not here or didn't visit those threads talking about it, there were a bunch of retards pushing the narrative that the tweet meant that Cover didn't get any applicants anymore cause they were a "black company".

>> No.13585178

>>13584981
You're severely underestimating the FOMO effect here.

The fact that these are such a sudden rush announcement means that people will talk about that fact a ton leading into the first debut, driving interest that otherwise might've not been there with a week-long build-up.

HoloJP, to move forward, needs to bring in new viewers while retaining current ones. A typical debut would only excite their current base and not draw the kind of interest from people not currently watching or following Hololive they'll need to sustain this.

>> No.13585319

>>13584981
idk anon. they announced this the day before the costume reveal stream
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1420353922099597317
it peaked 136k

>> No.13585393
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HoloX sub timestamp

> 20k already

They are not linking each other channel, but this is not the solution to avoid the culling (see VERSEn).

>> No.13585418

>>13585178
The cat girl has colorful test tubes on her. Maybe she's an artist. It's been awhile since they hired an artist. I think 2 of them are going to be gamers.

>> No.13585460

>>13585393
the only solution is talk to yt beforehand and make the exception

>> No.13585489

>>13585105
ah, that's fair. I wonder how many subs will get slash this time

>> No.13585561

>>13585393
We'll have to see if having a massive viewership on a video early on will avoid the culling, and if it hits the girls differently due to the timing of the debuts being spread out.

>> No.13585636

>>13585561
didn't council keep getting their subs cut even after their debuts?

>> No.13585640

Cover JP lurks this thread and is performing a controlled experiment to satisfy the numberfaggots

>> No.13585644

>channels created on september
so it is alwasy 2 months

>> No.13585647
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13585647

Why is Bae's number so low?

>> No.13585672

>>13585636
Not nearly to the same degree as the culls they had in that first week, though.

>> No.13585705
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13585705

welp DOA gen jops are crying kek

>> No.13585925

>>13585647
The game is mediocre. Not an absolute trash-fire, but she's late to streaming the game, PLUS, thanksgiving so burgers on west-coast are still out and some East coasters likely still entertaining family.
>>13585705
Meh, better set the expectation early that they're okay with following Stars if they're okay with it rather than spring it on everyone later.

>> No.13585941

The rigging is ver detailed. They took their time https://twitter.com/takanelui/status/1464072513386795009?t=AHtPRsy319KCpf1zlteXAA&s=19

>> No.13585983

>>13585647
Let's save Bae...

>> No.13586029

>>13585941
Not bad at all, but having her head-wings twitch every time she blinks is an odd choice. I find that distracting.

>> No.13586083

>>13584726
I doubt it's intentional but it might end up turning out that way.

>> No.13586094

>>13586029
Then you must have hated Haachama setting her twintails to sperg out every time she blinks.

>> No.13586105

>ITT: rrats of Lulu and Gibara joining Hololive
>ITT: not considering the possibility of Meiro or Roa joining
The anticipation is intense in more ways than one, we could possibly be baring witness to the end of Hololive unfold...

The only crazier thing would be if Cover somehow got retired A-List seiyuu/idols joining the company now...

>> No.13586188

>>13586105
Meiro is not passing the background check and Roa's still contracted to Nijisanji.

>> No.13586196

>>13586105
Meiro has beef with Noel.
Roa never graduated.

>> No.13586208

>>13586105
Roa hasn't graduated yet.

>> No.13586213

https://twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1464074218534961155

kek

>> No.13586239

Am I the only one that thinks this Gen is going to flop hard? Vtubing isn't the cool "new" fad anymore and the saturation on the Jp side is real, their numbers are going to plummet after the debut buff is over

>> No.13586255

Can someone tell me the subcount and ccv during Edengumi's Debut?
Just for comparison. (they are Niji's latest JP Gen right?)

They should've announced this during the Gen 3 Concert and having them debut hours after they were announced is a bad move imo.

>> No.13586280

prediction time:
will gen 6 be complementary gen like gen 5 that help with internal synergy or ambition gen like HoloEN1 and try to get more of the market?

>> No.13586322

>>13586239
Not going to flop as hard as selejo tho

>> No.13586346

>>13586196
>Meiro has beef with Noel.
huh?

>> No.13586358

>>13586105
one of them is probably that aria girl

>> No.13586360

>>13585705
Dont all hololive members follow the stars?

>> No.13586430

>>13584222
Yes, it's been more than a year. Not poop it left and right.

>> No.13586431

>>13586280
Ambitious.
They don't need further synergy. I hope they have pleasant voices and play their kayfabes properly.

>> No.13586434

>>13586239
ok nijishill, the cunny already got 25.3k subs in less than an hour

>> No.13586461

>>13586239
Vtubing is just the facade. It's the streaming talent you dolt. This is JP as well. It all depends whether or not they have something different to offer. Go back to twitch.

>> No.13586475

Another thing I just thought of, auditions for 5th Gen would have been taking place just as Hololive's popularity exploded on a global level. So this upcoming Gen will be the first JP one with applicants joining into something that is a big fucking deal. Think we might be getting some actual JP celebs / veteran voice actresses coming in potentially? (At least ones willing to adopt the streamer lifestlye)

>> No.13586478

>>13586213
she knows too much

>> No.13586557

>>13586255
Announcing it during sankisei concert is the bad move.
>>13586346
Noel's side job stuff.

>> No.13586574

>>13586475
They never had an official audition for Gen6. For all we know they are all scouted talents that never auditioned

>> No.13586577
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HoloX sub timestamp

> 25k already

It's been almost an hour. This is a decent growth. IRyS was the fastest one, but I need to check the archive for timestamps.

>> No.13586611

are we gonna get a gen 6 schizo?

>> No.13586643

>>13586105
we don't want drama, keep LuGib to where they belong

>> No.13586677

>>13586577
Now do it for all the members

>> No.13586689

>>13586611
If this managed to mog that niji 3Ddebut, then sure
gen5 schizo was because botan mogged 3D debut as well

>> No.13586691

>>13586280
When you look at them from a thematic point of view. They're the anti-hero or the villain gen to Gen3 from the way that they got setup.

>> No.13586724

Will there be any illegal view funneling into the debuts?

>> No.13586743

HoloFes will be announced after the debut of 5th member

it makes sense they stalled it

>> No.13586740

>>13586239
flop means "completely unsuccessful; fail totally".

Even the lowest-tiered JP Holos are considered successful in the vtubing world.
Having a new gen opens New Interactions with existing holos.

>> No.13586755

>>13586611
Why would anyone hate on gen 6 pre-emptively? Gen 5 being stuck in mediocrity after a year deserves some bricks flung at them but gen 6 is still an unknown quantity.

>> No.13586769

>>13586577
Is there any Gura slayer?

>> No.13586789

>>13586677
I only care for cunnies.

>> No.13586848

>>13586789

based

>> No.13586856

>>13586769
Get your goddamned curse words out of here.

>> No.13586925
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13586925

>>13586360
EN and ID sure but not JP. Pic is Roberu's follow that I have and I follow most holos

>> No.13586934

>>13586213
black magic

>>13586346
From what I remember, she copied something Noel's roommate was doing on her streams then tried to claim Noel was the one copying her and just generally being menhera. That went nowhere obviously, Noel is a titan in the field.

>> No.13586965

>>13586689
That's like kicking a puppy. Just a random Pekora stream will mog that 3d debut.

>> No.13586995

>>13586755
Gen 5 Schizo hello there

>>13586689
People were saying that the Niji who'll get 3d is just a low-tier in ccv. So it's almost a given debut will win.
UNLESS Tribalists all watch the 3d debut to shit on Gen6 numbers.

>> No.13586998

>>13584920
The ones who streams less will suffer first obviouslym

>> No.13587003

>>13586769
I'm interested to see if any of them can enter the top tier, ya know, Pekora, Miko, Marine territory. Ever since Gen 3 the only one who entered into that territory was Gura. Not that anybody from Gen 4, Gen 5, ID, and Council are doing bad but I'm interested to see if they can get another superstar.

>> No.13587023

>>13586755
>mediocrity
>one gets to VA, featured on playboy
>one hag gets assigned as RedBull, CoD ambassador, Game Pass sponsorship
>one yakuza princess
>clown
????

>> No.13587034

>>13586934
>From what I remember, she copied something Noel's roommate was doing on her streams then tried to claim Noel was the one copying her and just generally being menhera. That went nowhere obviously, Noel is a titan in the field.
Noel beats her in both fields. That must have tasted bitter.

>> No.13587087

>>13587023
>none of them in regular 20k CCV territory, only one of them barely broke 1M subs
Yeah, mediocre, they're B-tier streamers.

>> No.13587113

>>13587023
>clown
you're underplaying Polka. she's a seasoned veteran with a lot of connections. I think she's the reason why Nene and Kotone got to know each other.

>> No.13587125

>>13586934
Isn't she also the one who had a fight with Roa?
Hololive doesn't need someone like that.

>> No.13587150

>>13586724
does it matter? people will flock to it regardless without funneling, if any it will be a reverse funneling, holos will use their stream as waiting room

>> No.13587169

I really hope none of these girls are connected to Nijisanji in any way. I don't have anything against Nijisanji, I just don't want a holy war.

>> No.13587186

I honestly don't understand Gen5 Schizo. Holo5 isn't doing bad by any metric. They just happened to be torpedoed by controversy right after debut and Myth debuting to huge numbers.

>> No.13587241

>>13587169
what makes you think they would be

>> No.13587243

Wait, when is bora graduation again?
Is it on December?

>> No.13587337

>>13587243
Tuesday next week.

>> No.13587335

>>13587243
End of November. Is not happening.

>> No.13587336

>>13587087
I see, nijisanji streamers are c-tier then, starting from kuzuha

>> No.13587338

>>13586755
Boy I'd love to have some of that mediocrity right about now. I can just imagine how great it'd be to be driving a new car from all the mediocrity money I'd be bringing in. Yessiree I'd love to move up the ladder of success to a comfortable mediocrity such as what they have.

>> No.13587379

>>13587186
Its been explained before. The Gen 5 schizo exists because Botan's debut drew more viewers than a pretty high profile Nijisanji 3D debut. I actually forget who it was (Ars?). Either way, they are eternally salty about it.

>> No.13587422

>>13587186
grudge against them since their debut destroyed their niji counterpart

>> No.13587442

>>13587125
Botan was on record saying something like this (paraphrased): "You know how when a lot of women work together things can get catty, but I'm very surprised hololive gets along so well both on stream and behind the scenes, it's like a miracle."

>> No.13587444

>>13587186
Kek, i want to know his reason for hating that particular gen, is that fag a huge fan of SEEXXX girl and still bitter that she graduated? people usually hate the corpo, branch or specific chuuba not the whole gen

>> No.13587443

>>13586998
RIP Ayame...

On the bright side, once her numbers come down she won't be the punching bag on the boards anymore...right fellas?

>> No.13587483

>>13587125
Yep.

>> No.13587561

>>13587336
Nijis are mediocre too, that doesn't excuse gen 5 for not living up to the hype and failing to expand the brand like HoloMyth has.

>> No.13587638

>>13587335
could someone check whether she has stream scheduled for today/tomorrow and whether her few next stream till graduation overlap with one of them? if not it's not possible one of them is her

>> No.13587663
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HoloX sub timestamp

> 30k already

>> No.13587717

>>13587663
the other 4 have 27k each

>> No.13587806

>>13587561
Rent free

>> No.13587843

>>13587241
These threads saying stuff to construct narratives, sometimes referred to as "lies"

>> No.13587883

So will there be an ID that will actually attempt to stream during the debut?

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>>13587883

>> No.13587965

>>13587883
don't think so, everyone is forbidden to stream over debuts

>> No.13587971

>>13587442
The hag knows how women can be, but it probably helps that
-They're not stuck with each other 8+ hours a day, 5 days a week
-That they see what they have vs what can be and realize that it's pretty much a paradise vs most other jobs they've had before
The fact that there are plenty of holomem that are willing to step into the mentor role at a moment's notice likely helps keep things from devolving into a catfight situation too.

>> No.13587995

>>13587442
True, the only ones who "don't get along" are PekoxAqua and that's not even confirmed, it's only rrats.

>>13587561
Whatever you say Gen 5 Schizo

>>13587806
His hatred for Gen 5 outweighs his love for Nijis. Gen 5 Schizo is so funny

>> No.13588197

>>13587995
PekoxAqua rrat? Didn't aqua invite pekora in among us last year?

>> No.13588277

>>13587186
>I honestly don't understand Gen5 Schizo
That's why he is a schizo, he can't be understood

>> No.13588283

>>13587971
I see Marine, Coco*, Fubuki and Botan as those "holomem that are willing to step into the mentor role at a moment's notice"

>> No.13588282

>>13587995
>PekoxAqua and that's not even confirmed
maybe in the past back in NND but they both have grown a lot and are very professional with each other now. the curry concert where they get barbeque afterwards with Subaru comes to mind.

>> No.13588375
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13588375

Currently Hololive has 3 trending topics in my place. What about you anons?

>> No.13588416

>>13588283
Mion....

>> No.13588487

>>13587995
Even if they actually don't get along, it manifests as them staying out of each other's way instead of actively trying to tear down the other and letting things affect their work. That's really all you can ask for, in any other agency with a stable of female talents this big the recent Matsuri v Haachama would be happening all the damn time behind the scenes even if you don't see it in public.

>> No.13588511

>>13588197
They participate in multiple projects together as well. That doesn't mean much other than they're at least professional in spite of any animosity they may have for each other. Welcome to adult life, anon.

>> No.13588626

Loads of JP members weren't told but EN ones were kek

>> No.13588638

https://twitter.com/holo_analytics

this twitter follows holos subs milestones

>> No.13588657

>>13588487
was the matsuri haachama thing really a big deal? I dont understand

>> No.13588706

>>13588416
Anon said mentor, not literal mommy

>> No.13588729

>>13588626
It seems to be standard procedure on JP nowadays. Lamy mentioned that when gen 5 were formed, their existence wasn't revealed even to managers of other holos. Most other JP holos only found out about their new kouhais when their Twitter debuts happened.

>> No.13588786

>>13588626
JP can't keep secrets.

>> No.13588800

>>13588657
A typical Tuesday for Matsuri, honestly. Why do you think that her audience pretty much plummeted?

Had it been any other two big Holos, it would have been a PR disaster.

>> No.13588822

>>13588657
By itself, as a rare incident, not something professional adults can't overcome, no. But if passive-aggressive spats like that happen all the time in the workplace the environment becomes very unwelcoming.

>> No.13588828

>>13588657
It's a big deal because drama between members hasn't been made public before. And it threatens the one big happy family narrative that Hololive has.

>> No.13588852

>>13588375
That's not the trending topics

>> No.13588888

kronii farming Korean audience. lost ark next and shes set

>> No.13588904

>>13588626
Omega must have worked with main Holo HQ on the international transcripts and pass them on a few holos, like Ame. They know how to keep a secret.

>> No.13588915

>>13588626
They were told they existed but nothing else

>> No.13588947

>>13587442
Lamy mentioned she had an incident with a gen 5 member before but even that quickly got resolved. She also said it is because of how close they are that such conflict is possible.

>> No.13588954
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HoloX sub timestamp

> 35k already

IRyS got 200k in less than a day. I'm still digging more.
>>6261721

>> No.13588970

A rebroadcast of Ame Karaoke has more viewers than the whole NIjiEN collab

>> No.13589053

>>13588888
Is Diablo really that popular with Koreans?

>> No.13589054

>>13588511
Anon pekora is a picky when it comes to collab. She can easily refuse the invitation if she didn't want to.

>> No.13589084

>>13588283
>Botan
I honestly see Botan taking the struggling/shy ones under her wing. Lamy as well. She's been longing for JP kouhai for a long while now. Gen 5 as a whole will mentor gen 6 due to gen 5's identity of being the family gen.

>> No.13589197

so is irys record for starting sub numbers before debut unbeatable at this point?

>> No.13589198

What were the numbers for the other Diablo 2 streams? Is it a debuff cause Kronii seems to be struggling to reach 8k.

>> No.13589211

>>13588828
>>13588822
>>13588800
didn't festival quickly apologize for acting unprofessionally and take back everything she said? I think her fanbase even apologize on her behalf.

>> No.13589229

>>13589053
Isometric (x)RPGs are like Korean crack, from StarCraft to Ragnarok Online. Hell, you could argue League of Legends is in there too, and it doesn't need to be stated how big league is in Korea.

>> No.13589253

>>13589197
With the new culling mechanics, probably.

>> No.13589339

>>13589211
She did, which helped dull any poetnail issue, but it's also a pretty bad look on Festival. Fortunately everyone already knows she's a dramatic menhera so the issue didn't blow up any further, but it's incidents like those that can devolve into a full-on trashfire when your dealing with 30+ women.

>> No.13589439

>>13589197
>1 member
>9 months since the last debut
>No culling

>> No.13589443

>>13589198
Lamy's D2 streams were a little below average on numbers. Not a huge debuff but certainly not a buff

>> No.13589449

>>13589211
That was my point though. It was a big deal because it was the first time Holos had conflict with each other so openly, but because it was Matsuri (a known menhera), people just kind brushed it off just like Haachama pretty much did. If it was something like Gura vs Pekora or Suisei vs IRyS, it would have been fan-base fracturing.

>> No.13589456

>>13589211
She did but venting on twitter was not the best idea and reflected badly on Festival. She could just talked on private but not putting it online, like the Luna incident. That's why it got so much attention.

>> No.13589517

How is Vshojo's viewership after this whole doxx incident anyway?

>> No.13589679

Is it possible for Ame Karaoke rebroadcast to surpass the combined vCCV of NijiEN Mario Kart?

>> No.13589715

>>13589456
Luna incident huh
Mind spoonfeeding me on that?

>> No.13589754

>>13589449
Well, you know what they say
Family feuds ...

>> No.13589781

https://files.catbox.moe/xuq3qk.mp4
prediction on debut CCV
Niji's didn't release a new gen for over a year and they got really good CCV as a result of it. I'm assuming there is some hype behind it.

>> No.13589901

Clippers are on it already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk2LZ8mRLi

>> No.13589920

>>13589715
There really wasn't any details but all that's known is that Matsuri broke an important promise to Luna.

>> No.13589972

>>13589901
>This video is unavailable
What the heck was it?

>> No.13590070

>>13587995
I would really like them to finally get along. I also wonder how big a surprise 1 on 1 collab between Pekora and Aqua is gonna be.

>> No.13590163

>>13589715
Barely much known, she talked about it on the Kiara interview. If you want to get into narrative territory, its speculated that Luna was supposed do a sleepover at her place but Matsuri backed out at the last moment.

>> No.13590180

>>13589781
Probably not great. I mean a guerilla debut? No way this hits more than 60k.

>> No.13590228

>>13589198
bot lamy and kiara were meh
so no surprise specially since people are with their family.

>> No.13590351

>>13589920
>>13590163
Ohh okay thanks for the info.
I see memes where Matsuri loves Hoshikawa but after getting rejected she turns on Luna and ends up with nothing.
So this is where that meme/rrat came from

>> No.13590350

>>13589198
Lamy averaged around 6k for it though she usually played it in the morning so 6k is usual numbers for her in that timeslot.

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HoloX sub timestamp

> 40k already (1 hours 53 minutes)
> She keeps changing her avatar. lol she's cute

First mention of IRyS (Tue 06 Jul 2021 18:02:10)
>>6194102

Sub timestamp (Wed 07 Jul 2021 16:29:05)
>>6231971

170k subs in 22 hours 20 minutes, Laplus is debuting in less than 10 hours. I'll dig some more.

>> No.13590448

>>13590359
>> 40k already (1 hours 53 minutes)
at this rate she will have 1 million subs by monday.

>> No.13590499

>>13590448
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>> No.13590522

So is becoming a Hololive mama/papa one of the biggest things an illustrator can be contracted for? Aside from top tier gacha or being a inception artist for an anime seems like little else compares money/exposure wise. Kakage was legit tearing up.

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>>13590448

>> No.13590570

Laplas: 60k (it's guerilla debut afterall)
Lui: 75k (other people may still not be aware)
Koyori: 85k
Chloe: 90k
Iroha: 90k

Without the usual 3-5days space for them to be known. I don't think any of them will get 100k+.
But i would love to see it and is not actually impossible since it's been a while since JP had a new gen

>> No.13590581

>>13590070
Probably will be huge. But considering how Aqua is still allergic to playing games and Pekora being impulsive and high standard in her collab content it would be hard for that to happen unless if it's another company thing.

>> No.13590590
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>>13583551
And now it's 40k

>> No.13590618

>>13590448
Yeah, but how many subs will they have before HoloStats starts tracking them.

>> No.13590619

>>13590448
>>13590567
Kek

>> No.13590641

>>13590351
Well besides that promise, an older narrative is that their relationship started to get cold when Luna forgot when was Matsuri's birthday during that Choco(or some other Holo) quiz stream. Then that horror VR happened which led to Luna breaking her neck and being hospitalized, where there were news about Subaru visiting her constantly but nothing about Matsuri doing the same. From then on her return, you could see Luna doing more stuff with Subaru than Matsuri.

>> No.13590668

>>13590522
It's great exposure, arguably even bigger than exposure for most anime titles. Not to mention Cover would prefer to make it a steady partnership, which means you'd always be the first choice when it comes to outfits/accessories/merch in the future.

>> No.13590669

>>13590590
can she get more subs than nijien 3

>> No.13590674

>>13590570
60k is my bet too NijiEN friend.
>>13590522
I think it was a meme after a while. I sure hope he simps hard for her.

>> No.13590774

>>13590641
Matsuri literally has dreams where Luna picks up her calls. Luna is obviously in the wrong when someone has fantasies about getting to even talk to someone.

>> No.13590831

>>13590668
I recall Fubuki's papa dropped 100k(?) on her as a thank you gift.

>> No.13590847

>>13590581
If it's games like Mario party or Clubhouse then 65-80k.
But if they play minecraft and say something like Usaken CEO vs Akukin CEO then 90k is doable.


Also i just imagined a Pekora and Gura Collab. Can they get 100k i wonder?

>> No.13590869

>>13590351
Festival is a saviourfag and was with Luna trying to help her open up to more people, as she was in her little world, even by Gen4 standard.
The interactions were cute and legit liked it each other but Festival went Festival and broke it down. In the end we don't know what happened but all has lost and the moral here is not making it public and be just on the backstage but Festival had to do use Twitter with Haachama and make everything worse because of it.
I miss MatsuLuna tho.

>> No.13590937

>>13590522
They can release their own merch lf their own daughters. Pekora and Aqua for one makes bank from their own merch and art books of their daughters

>> No.13591001

>>13588970
Again? Same thing happened with the castle crasher Collab and Ames piano rebroadcast.

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>>13590847
well another guerilla stream. 100k is possible.

>> No.13591071

>>13590522
>Kakage was legit tearing up.
how happy was he?

>> No.13591148

>>13591071
Guys been waiting to be a papa for almost a year and a half.

>> No.13591254

https://youtu.be/2MfvZP7FNtw
6 more hours. show me the numbers

>> No.13591272

>>13591071
one of the two rejected model was his iirc
but turns out he already make another one for jp6
rrat slain again..

>> No.13591317

What are the chances of JP6 2nd outfit before Pekora's new outfit.

>> No.13591340

>>13591272
Didn't both artist get use for gen 6?

>> No.13591342

>>13591272
His model could get cancelled again. You never know until they are debuting.

>> No.13591344

>>13591272
damn, it really makes you wonder why would you burn the Cover bridge like that. as long as you don't have any menhera outburst, you're basically set for life

>> No.13591346

Not only do we get 5 straight days of looking at numbers for a new JP gen, we get to see what chaos happens when those streams end and everyone starts afterwards.

>> No.13591380

>>13591272
Both of the artists for the rejected models got to have daughters for gen 6, which in hindsight seems to be what Cover meant tongue-in-cheek when they said they were working with the artists in "other ways".

>> No.13591485

Lap+ is losing subs. 44.3 atm

>> No.13591494

>>13591254
Will disabling embed playing help or hurt numbers?

>> No.13591496

>>13591340
Yes.
>>13591344
Menhera's gonna menhera.

>> No.13591508

>>13591346
High chance it will be Pekora, Suisei, Subaru and Miko fighting for the funnel views.

>> No.13591558

>>13591344
Some people actually have principles and won't work with a black company.

>> No.13591589

So the prediction for HoloJP6 timeframe seems correct, that means that EN will probably get their 3rd outfits in mid-Dec.

>> No.13591620
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HoloX sub timestamp

> 45k already (2 hours 14 minutes)

More IRyS pre-debut sub timestamps:

>>6210088 (Wed 07 Jul 2021 01:06:58)
115k in 7 hours 4 minutes

>>6213343 (Wed 07 Jul 2021 04:21:48)
136k in 10 hours 19 minutes.

>>6220772 (Wed 07 Jul 2021 09:09:27)
156k subs in 15 hours 7 minutes.

>> No.13591624

>>13586769
Koyori

>> No.13591648

>>13591558
Definitely, fucking Nijisanji members always ghosts their mama/papa. Fuck them.

>> No.13591761

https://youtu.be/WYJVxiMFrdw
Aruran is collabing with Oliver today, please don't forget the other new JP wave from the other company that also debuted this year...

>> No.13591774

Imagine if hololive got lulu, gibara and roa????

>> No.13591808

>>13591508
That would involve Suisei streaming, which she apparently isn't going to do today: https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1464092236174413830

>> No.13591867

>>13591774
No, no and no.
Roa definitely not because her contract is still present with Niji.
Gib and Lulu both streaming facecam means they're right out.

>> No.13591874

>>13591774
I don't think Cover can handle Roa though, she's a liability.

>> No.13591890

>>13591558
no wonder 3 members graduated from nijisanji this year

>> No.13591925

>>13591867
Kson was still doing face cam during her dragon period anon.

>> No.13592070

>>13591867
Anon, a good chunk of the Holos had continued delivering under their roommate accounts at one point or another while being active Holos.

>> No.13592092

>>13591508
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg9Urub5aac
NEVERMIND WE GOT OUR FUNNEL

>> No.13592194

>>13592092
Hopefully they promote the debuts

>> No.13592225

>>13592092
An hour too early for a reverse funnel, more like Kanata's going to do her usual and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_N24qV110k

>> No.13592232

>>13588626
DYRBI. Miko hinted at Gen 6. Its highly likely holos had to be there to interview gen 6 to ensure compatibility. Either their all good actors or knowledge of gen 6 is compartmentalized to a few holo representatives

>> No.13592236

>>13591925
>>13592070
Hrmmmmmm. Okay, that's a fair point, but I doubt, DOUBT that Hololive would grab either just due to the lingering drama + it seems unlikely they'd go back to vtubing fulltime given the reasons they've stated they left.
If they got either though, oh gods the amount of rrats, flaming, and shitposting would be legendary.

>> No.13592417

>>13592232
Miko subtly hinted it. I thought she was just joking but boy was I wrong.

>> No.13592503

>>13592232
I remember that was discussed here for a bit.
She said "It's getting around that time for more members" or something. I think the thread just assumed she was hinting at ID3

>> No.13592517

>>13592232
They know there'll be a gen 6, they don't know when it'll happen.

>> No.13592520

>>13592417
Yeah, Miko and Fubuki seem to be more in the know than most of the others when it comes to things like this. They are probably the main representatives for other Holos with management.

>> No.13592554

Wait, why hasn't Amelia remove her unarchived premier rebroadcast? She's gonna get striked.

>> No.13592555

>>13592417
I thought the timing was right, but as we were getting closer to the end of the month I wasn't sure if they were going to get announced this year at all.
Guess I shoulda trusted by gut a bit more.

>> No.13592594

>>13592554
Tommy hort.

>> No.13592621

>>13592554
She set it up as a premier and not a stream. I think she messed up, lol.

>> No.13592669

>>13592554
Ah fuck goddamnit Ame you dumbass...
I swear to god if she doesn't stream for weeks because she gets struck for being a retard, she's going to (rightfully) get shit on for it.

>> No.13592678
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HoloX sub timestamp

> 50k already (2 hours 33 minutes)

More IRyS timestamps:

>>6207768 Tue 06 Jul 2021 23:17:17
100k subs in 5 hours

Will dig some more. I think people numberfagged IRyS first few hours. I'm still digging for those posts.

>> No.13592692

>>13592555
Really curious as to what talents Gen 6 will have.
Reminds me back when Coco talked about how each subsequent Gen tends to be more high spec than the last.

>> No.13592696

Ame ended her Karaoke rebroadcast with >7k CCV. If I was management at NijiEN, I would be embarrassed that this is coming close to a hype NijiEN collab between all members.

>> No.13592733

>>13592236
>reasons they've stated they left
>implying the real reason wasn't actually ichikara incompetency

>> No.13592779

>>13584363
So Pekora tries next month to break the most golf record.

>> No.13592785

>>13592678
Pretty close to IRyS pace. Also has 2.6k waiting with over 6 hours until the stream.

>> No.13592829

>>13592785
Should be pretty good numbers then, that's more people waiting than the NijiEN stream median even though it's still 6 hours away.

>> No.13592914

Guess this month top median goes to JP6. Maybe even higher than Ayame

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