/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I will always say that western Vtubers fail because they don't expand past their platform. JP Vtubers have merch, live events, sponsors and so much more compared to EN Vtubers who just play Minecraft of YouTube or Twitch. different culture I guess

It will be quite amusing to watch you fags when honeymoon period ends in two weeks and she's brought down to the ground.

Ingods keep winning

What the fuck are you talking about, retard?

>>13683938
>>13684028
>>13684122
Japs = Loyal paypigging gachikoi that is more invested in their own culture, anime culture, etc.

EOP western fans = clicks subscribe button but don't watch livestreams or paypig as much as Jap fans, don't appreciate anime and Jap culture as much, only in it for the memes

>>13684122
See you when she passes 1 million faster than Gura.

>>13683938
myth only had great start because it was like feeding water to a dry soil, sucking everything up.

Now the dust has settled, actual EN viewership compared to its population is so small that there's barely any growth post myth

>>13684183
this is probably the best and most accurate summary I've seen.

>>13683938
Does Cover Japan even have anything to do with EN? Seems like they appointed some dude to be in charge and left him to his own devices with next to no supervision.

>>13684153
She completely mogged every EN debut despite global population of billions. Council is a joke in comparison and Myth is a burned out shell for months.

>>13683938
Poor Petra. She could be her instead she joined NijiEN while speaking mostly in JP. Labelling herself as the Gura killer doomed her career.

>>13684240
It really seems that way. And initial success blinded them.

>>13684284
Petra is simply a boring niche streamer. If she was in Hololive she would be next Anya.

Also joining NijiEN is unironically better than HoloEN. NijiEN girls make more in superchats than council.

>>13684196
She will stall at like 600k. Not that I care about some squealer in the first place.

>>13684183
>only in it for the memes
this. basically worthless and not even worth recognition, which is shown by how ENs treat their fans

>>13683938
>EN management.
Fire Omega. Fire Jenma. Literally Fire everyone who speaks English in Cover. Or maybe don't actually fire anyone because if there's one thing EN management has done correctly, it's that they block all Vshitjo, Nijishitty collabs from happening. Good on them. Mitigating any needless drama from ever happening is a good thing. I hereby relinquish my Cover anti mentality and will from now onwards willingly eat all of Omega's delicious cum filled LORE pie.

>>13683938
Seethe.
HoloMyth still mogs all HoloJP gens except for 3. HoloX is simply the end result built by every past gen and we have yet to see if they become a thing after the debut buff before they deflate.

Japanese people are more open to watching vtubers than the rest of the world
It's that simple
Having a smaller audience doesn't mean you failed, stop performing mental gymnastics trying to make up reasons that they did

>>13683938
im sure most of those viewers are eops. she isnt like pekora or miko or korone. only kimootas watch her. shes too animay even for japanese casual otakus, and its even annoying.

>>13684538
But they didn't block VShojo collabs. Mousey announced that she and Mori are going to have two collabs soon, so maybe EN management should be fired after all...

>>13684183
HoloEN is just crap and attracted a shit fanbase that gives them views and subs but no money. This is what Reddit pandering did to them.They are fucking losing to 2k EN streamers now.

>>13684183
chumbud sisters... is this true?

>>13684538
Have fun with your sterile corp streams of Pokemon and Minecrap 24/7 while Nijis and indies keep having fun and laughing to tears in collabs.

>>13684659
Only for cumbuds. Deadbeats are doing well feeding Mori

>>13684688
>literal bitches and whores
>having "fun"

>>13683938
dont hire troons and sjws, you wont have this problem

>>13684572
because myth is basically the entire EN fanbase. That's the limit, the ceiling. Good for myth of course, but speaks volume about how small and irrelevant EN is as a whole. Post myth whether it's council or EN3, 4, 5 will be smaller and smaller

>>13684700
Mori survives on her music not streaming.

>>13684183
This, I mean not every EOP is like this, but the majority of greyfags are, just a minority is invested on their oshi

>>13684659
I'm still membered to Gura and even record streams, but rarely watch them. She kind of became stale as a whole.

>>13684688
Utterly seething.

>>13684723
Every Hololive girl rides dicks when you are not watching you fucking retard.

>>13684625
>views and subs
>no money
Choose one.

>>13684625
Gura has never done a superchat reading stream in her life. Also she has at least 56k confirmed members from what we know on the members only polls, and that is only the people that bother to vote on those in the first place.
In case your monkey brain cant figure it out, Gura shits on everyone with her monthly income, the superchats are just a bonus.

>>13684784
So you like it when it's in your face constantly? Ogey I guess.

>>13683938
>JP = loyal jap fans + loyal worldwide 'I wanna be ajap" fans with deep wallets and commitment
>EN = leddit kids

>>13684688
>Have fun with your sterile corp streams of Pokemon and Minecrap 24/7
Of the currently live Nijis, half the streams are Pokemon or Minecraft. The thing here is that you don't actually watch Niji, you're a falseflagging faggot who doesn't realise they play a fuckton of Minecraft and whatever the FOTM game is too.

>>13684812
Latest members poll as of now has 13k votes.

>>13684741
Vshojo keeps having 10k streams. Nijisanji EN regularly gets 3-5k streams now while they struggled to reach 2k before. Yes Gura numbers are the EN ceiling but paypigs are leaving for other streamers because HoloEN got boring as shit. Kronii broke Hololive records with her early SC streams. Potential fanbase is there it's all on Cover for chasing them away.

>>13684538
meds

>>13684752
Mori or Kiara are the only ones I can see maintaining their fanbases since those two have a cult kind of fanbase established for them

>>13684600
But Mouse has a pass though, she is a weaboo and seems to respect a lot the idol and vtuber culture plus she was a vtuber before the EN boom so is not a clout chaser

Holomyth was an anomaly. Western vtubers aren't supposed to be good, just like anime dubs aren't good.

This is the world returning to its natural state.

>>13684812
50k was the peak idiot. She's nowhere near now.

>>13684904
Imagine liking squealing jap two-bit whores.

>>13684866
None of those are EN faggot. Nijisanji JP has hundreds of streamers of course some will do the popular trash.

>>13684965
Hundreds of irrelevant nobodies you meant.

>>13684880
>gura
>kronii
please, they're outliers when you compare to average success levels of jp holomems in each gen

>>13684894
A bit of parasocial relationship too, Ame is a paradox since she has the most gosling fans but somehow is not translating into loyalty or SC earning

>>13684904
cope

>>13684812
Tell me anon, do you actually find super chat readings enjoyable? I rather watch nijisanji over that

>>13684992
Kronii and Gura are below even Ethyria members when you look at recent SC earnings. Million dead subs matters nothing.

You will never be Japanese. You have no ancestry, you have no citizenship, you have no skills that would make Japan ever want you. You are a shut-in self-hating white man twisted by delusions of mythical Japanese superiority and exposure to Japanese media into a disgusting mockery of nature’s perfection. All 'validation' you get from other people in this position couldn't be worse in making you believe that spending years of your life learning a globally useless language to a first-grader's level was a worthwhile use of your time, but one can't expect that an individual as pathetic as you will ever know the value of the youth you threw away in doing that. Actual Japanese are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of linguistic evolution have allowed natives to identify frauds from mannerisms and vocabulary alone. Even if your written text of self-hatred and attention begging akin to a stray dog's somehow passes as normal (it won't), any Japanese person will immediately cut all ties when they hear the voice and accent of someone who is not only a basic Japanese speaker at best, but worth no more than garbage in skills, accomplishments, and likeability. You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile and laugh to yourself believing that watching a content creator that you understand 20% of at best is somehow superior than watching your own kind, as you project your disgusting traits onto your entire kind. However, deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight, and you know that. You know that all you do now is have an entirely new linguistic medium in which to be ignored, and not even the exotic trait of being foreign makes up for just how uninteresting of a person you are. Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a Western man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably Caucasian. This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back. Hate yourself and apologize for being white to some Japanese entity that exists only in your mind while actual Japanese people put in effort to learn English for the valid reason of it being the global language.

>>13685047
I'd rather do something productive unrelated to vtubing altogether. SCs were a mistake.

>>13684741
this. Many new JP holo gen was able to carve and capture their own way of growth while council just proves that ENs need myth to feed their growth by sharing their fanbase like mother birds. And baby birds will always be smaller than their mothers

>>13684812
>Gura shits on everyone with her monthly income

Gura never hit Coco or Rushia numbers. Current Gura is not even in the same league.

>>13685084
Imagine even considering wanting to be a jap. Why the fuck would anybody want to be a worked-to-death midget cuck?

>>13684928
Oh cool so she peak mate 300,000 in 1 month by playing video games for less than 4 hours a day.
Seems like a shitty job to me.

>>13684600
>But they didn't block VShojo collabs
Well that was a short retirement. EN MANAGEMENT HATE.

>>13685084
Based opinion, I kneel.

You JP vtubing cucks cannot hope to be Japanese even if you know Japanese.

You cannot be Japanese. Look at your body and see why you cannot.

>>13684741
>but speaks volume about how small and irrelevant EN is as a whole

>3.5 million subs
>160k peak stream

Fanbase is there.

>>13685084
>english
>global language
Trend is not your friend in this case.

>>13685084 (me)
nijibros btw

>>13685172
Wasn't that 194k peak stream?

>>13685120
Why would I care? It's not like she shares her earnings with me, or any other vtuber for that matter. It's weird to even try to extract some sort of value from the earnings of a person you'll never ever meet.

>>13683938
>This really shows how irrelevant (streamers-with-avatars) vtubers actually are.
When its done well, people really like chuuni shit.

>>13684183
>>13684493
>>13684625
Look fellas, it does not matter how much i appreciate these girls talents (both EN and JP) i am not paying money to someone that uploads videos for free, never have never will.

>>13683938
I only see the power of a good cunny

>>13685047
I dont and I'm glad she doesnt read them. Its clear who the faggots that get pissy about their superchats not being read are.

>>13685293
If you are watching said videos, you are still paying. Maybe not in currency, but certainly in time.

>>13685084
I'm okay with that but you're still getting raped Ui.

>>13684866
this is the problem I have with nijis, I started watching on 2019, but soon I realized that the fanbase IS TRASH
they only care about one thing
>watch Kuzuha and his boyfriend
I wanted to talk about the good streams but nobody cares if it's not kuzuha, unless it's a giga event of course

Why do people keep measuring supa chat when most of HoloEN tell people to just don't bother, they aren't gonna read it ?

>>13685219
Yeah it was supposed to be 190k.

>>13685172
>gura fans =/= EN chuuba fans
ENfags need to come to terms and learn to not bundle gura with the rest of ENs. She's a star, an exception, another level, in a league of her own. They watch her because she's gura, not because she's a EN chuuba

>>13685402
Remember back when Hololive was way below Nijisanji the Holocope was that they make more in SC? Losing paypigs is the first sign of slow death.

>>13685416
>here, let me move the goal posts again
Kek, doing it old school, huh?

>>13685456
and other things that never happened

>>13685416
Just give us another EN loli with a sexy design and good voice and the same will happen. Especially since Omikron is going to bring back lockdowns soon.

>>13685293
And this is the most important cultural difference between EN (More like Western side) and Japan

>>13685502
We are talking about EN JP Hololive is still doing great. La+ is the strongest debut in history.

>>13685293
Mori and Kronii disagree. Paypigs are there they simply stopped caring.

>Gen 5 debuted with 113k peak ccv
>Myth debuted with peak of 70k
>I don't think Myth will ever work
>I don't think someone will reach 4 million subs
>I don't think they can get million of views to >their song in short time
>I don't think one will be awarded with Young Content Creator in Japan
>I don't think convention organizers will host them
>I don't think the government of Japan will acknowledge them

THE NUMBERS MASON
WHAT DO THEY MEAN

you all still dont understand most of her viewers are eops. they will be filtered very soon, and she wont have so many jp viewers. you dont even know "loli vtubers" arent really popular in the jp industry. niji jp and others have a few of their own but they all are low-middle tier vtubers except for chihiro.

Is this the EN cope thread?

EOPs will never get over their inferiority complex, because deep down they know they're just watching the bootleg version of vtubing.

So this is just going to happen everytime a new JP or EN Gen debuts huh

ENゴミすぎてワロタwwwwwwwwwwwww
ENゴミすぎてワロタwwwwwwwwwwwww
ENゴミすぎてワロタwwwwwwwwwwwww
ENゴミすぎてワロタwwwwwwwwwwwww
ENゴミすぎてワロタwwwwwwwwwwwww

brain rot

>>13685662
>incite holo vs holo conflict
they need a diversion & cope from the absolute mogging of holox with 167k peak debut ccv

>>13684240
wasn't there a rrat tlast year that EN is structured the same as HoloCN. That there is actually another entity that controls the branch, but they use the Hololive name.

>>13685660
deep inside they all know they'd prefer to eat sushi made by a jap

>>13685588
I doubt some diplomat stopping by for a silly photo-op counts for much. Otherwise, yes.

>>13685359
I Am fine with that, it is not like i have a problem with the concept of remunerating them somehow like through likes views and such, i am just not willing to pay any actual money.

>>13685794
>https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000554.000030268.html

>>13684572
except when it comes to things like sponsorships. EN has had 4 major sponsorships (Taco Bell, Tales of, Shadowverse, and Princess Connect) in the past year. In the same time, Jp and even ID has had more than them. Sponsorships bring money and if EN or even Myth aren't attracting them, then Cover will see them as a liability financially and axe them.

>>13685660
When original is an increadibly boring repetitive and interchangeable squealer with the sole exception of fucking Botan, I am watching a far superior version in a better language with EN.

>>13685502
I can't read this shit

>>13685849
And? It's a silly con nothingburger, not a multinational billion-dollar project. They took the photo with a cardboard cutout and continued on their way to actual work.

>>13685926
Read dipshit

>>13685835
No problem. Most of their audience are exactly like you.

>>13685588
Year later Myth is a walking corpse and Council flopped.

>>13685947
>it literally confirms what I just said

>>13685886
How do you know that? From watching clips? lol. You lack even the basic ability to judge them properly. Your ignorance is too large for you to even understand what you're missing.

>>13684812
Is the EN fanbase low IQ garbage, or do you want her to do superchat readings, make up your mind

>>13686002
I am missing nothing of value. You are free to enjoy garbage if that's what you like.

>>13683938
That's what happens when your head manager is this guy

>>13685994
>Council
>flopped
Your silly desperation is pretty stale at this point. Spice it up!

>>13685926
>nothing burger because we ain't part of it
Seethe

>>13685994
That's what they said last year, and holoEN will continue to make you seethe

>>13686061
Why would I seethe over you not being a part of some silly con?

>>13686034
Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

>>13686106
I don't need to reinforce my taste because I have no doubts on the issue whatsoever. JP is garbage and vastly inferior to EN.

>>13686101
Yes, that's the cope.

>>13686183
With what exactly?

>>13686245
Start from your birth.

>>13686096
What? They were doing great last year. Now signs of burnout are everywhere.

>>13686402
So you have nothing. Hardly a surprise.

>>13686424
Management will ride them until they quit, that much is obvious. Pivotal moment comes after that: will western vtubing keep growing, or will it fold back to JP?

>>13683938
>implying Laplus will be doing impressive numbers a year from now
She'll be lucky to average 4k ccvs once the dust settles. What you niggers don't seem to realize is that HoloX is facing massive internal competition from the other JP Holos. Hololive is starting to make Nijisanji's mistake of hiring too many chuubas and spreading themselves too thin.

every single post here has been discussed and explained on /#/. It's time to stop and find a new hobby since you fags clearly don't care about the content at all

>>13686665
Fuck off, you're not thread police.

>>13686665
>t.faggot

>>13685084
I come to spread my westerness by creating European rape babies

>>13686525
I heard the same shit about Gen 5 and Lamy, Botan and Nene are some of the performers in either number or superchats, funnily enough Polka who was the most hyped up ended up being the weak link (and she's still in the mid tier of holo numbers)

>>13685132
If you dont want to be jap why are you consuming media made by pearl harbor bombers? Checkmate, weebs.

>>13686497
Western vtubing is fine outside HoloEN.

>>13683938
lmao this is just Cover cannibalizing itself. If you watch 3-4 chuubas from that company you've seen them all. At least with Nijisanji you have variety

>>13686525
She's going to be Holo Kuzuha then. Her numbers are insane, she's fun as fuck in every stream so far and she likes fps games. Apex/Valorant here we go!

>>13687117
What I saw so far did not fill me with hope.

>>13687141
La+ is apparently an fps streamer so hopefully she's not going to be another minecrap spammer like 90% of Holo.

>>13684880
>Nijisanji EN regularly gets 3-5k streams now while they struggled to reach 2k before.
Why you lie anon. Without taking Reimu into account, their average viewers sit around 1.5k. Theres peaks of 2k but the only one who can reliably hit 3k outside of special events is Selen when she plays Apex.

>>13687141
>variety of garbage

>>13687177
NijiEN is way more fun than Myth ever was.

>>13687214
Didn't claim either company was good anon

If she keep reacting in tweeter the way she's doing it, she will be the first vtuber in no time. She has great potential.

>>13687117
HoloEN is horrible, but it’s probably the best western vtubing group. The rest of western vtubing is absolutely atrocious.

>>13687198
Recent collabs were at 4-5k on multiple streams. Finana hit 4k with Honkai and regularly gets 2k now. Millie hit 3.5k yesterday. Petra and 400 views SC readings are lowering the average.

>>13686754
>>13686913
lmao SEAmonkeys are so easy to piss off

>>13687275
>but it’s probably the best western vtubing group

Nope.

>>13687284
Keep nursing that butthurt.

Reminder: the amount of cuckolds that will actually stick with these EN whores is very small. The majority of western men hate whores.

>>13687284
>muh seanigg boogeyman
Cope faggot

>>13687275
Earlier this year I would have agreed, but NijiEN is beating the shit out of HoloEN in terms of quality today, and they may edge up on HoloEN in popularity as well considering the shitshow that is Council. Cover dropped the ball. No surprise there.

The only Holo council member I watch is Kronii and that's only if I can be assed. The rest of them don't really seem that interesting. They really fucked up without Coco helping pick out talent she got 4/5 right for 1st gen

>>13683938
most of her viewers are EOPs. They see cunny and they go crazy

>>13687547
YWNBJ

>>13687596
>and they may edge up on HoloEN in popularity

HoloEN has the reddit drones so unlikely.

>>13687672
Fauna is great sometimes. Mumei has potential but management fucked her over so hard she stopped caring.

>>13684028
>>13684183
The other problem is shaders. The en minecrft audience dislikes shaders because most of them can't use shaders and they make bad builds look good. It might make the girls feel better, but it automatically filters millions of potential viewers.

>>13684866
Literally half of the people in your image are not playing pokemon or minecraft.

>>13683938
God what is wrong with you people?

>>13689307
I won't watch minecraft without shaders because I'm a normal person and that shit looks awful. There are more of me than there are of them.

>>13684872
members information was not derived from polls, but from chat scraping unique names

>>13685317
>I only see the power of a good cunny
this

>>13683938
HoloJP>>>>>>holoEN but this board is fucking reddit that you all (most of you) have zero awareness at all in anything. It is a fact that most EN fans refuse to except.

>>13684196
Even if she does, it feels like 1.5/2 million is probably the upper limit for japanese only, hell maybe Vtubers in general, barring Gura. Pekora grinds hard, gets 70k+ live viewers on big events, is one of the most watched female streamers on the planet and she's still inching towards 2M at a glacial pace. Laplus will stall out at around 1M, depending on stream hours and content.

>>13683938
Anon, you already they are all ultra buffed by having every single eye on hololive looking at their debut and their going to have less than 20k average viewers in 2 weeks. Stop with the shitty bait. Her second stream already lost 3/4 of the viewers and that's counting many that remain to learn more about her since she didn't talk about it in the first one.

>>13683938
>council get 250k subs before even debuting
>/vt/ still thinks initial numbers mean anything
Why is this board so retarded.

>>13690963
No they didn't, Irys was the highest with 200k before debuting

>>13684784
Gura is a virgin.

>>13683938
How's 5th gen doing? And Laplus' genmates?
You know it's not JP Hololive, it's the CUNNY.

>>13691873
>Cumbuds can't even satisfy their oshi

>>13689575
Anon, your math reps.

>>13690633
do you know japanese?

>>13685748
No. Multiple jp holos have described running into en manager(s?) at the tokyo office. It seem like EN have barebone support staff for most of last year. They just added new managers recently with en2. ID on the other hand have an actual office in jakarta.

>>13690633
NijiEN was a real eye opener. HoloEN fucking sucks. HoloJP is still good but they are past their prime unless 6gen fixes that.

>>13690633
Gura has more subs than anyone else in JP which means she's objectively better than all of them.

>>13683938
>>13684269
You can like JP members more without trying to spread self-gratifying narratives about the EN side. Maybe it's your low self-esteem compels you to make these threads

>>13692808
>MUH SUB COUNT
She can't even break top 10 in superchats. Fucking Nijimales mog her $$ and viewer wise (special events)

used up western holes vs pure jp holes, is it really any surprise?

>>13692808
>nowhere near top JP in live views
>pitiful superchat numbers
>lazy as fuck lowest effort streams
>sounds half dead every stream
>even karaoke is mediocre for months

>>13692976
Falseflagger detected

>>13692934
EN did this to themselves. So much potential wasted by laziness and trash managers.

>>13691758
Ok, 200k before debuting. I don't think that makes much of a difference.

>>13693004
All of it is true.

>>13692976
>>13693004
Why does every fanbase immediately try and claim their bad actors are falsflaggers? That's 100% a deadbeat.

>>13692976
>>13693004
Even chumbuds and gura herself have commented on her recents karaokes being crap, the excuse is usually not feeling well or w.e. Council is blowing her ass out of the water with their karaokes(Mumei and Kronii even trended and had higher ccv)

>>13693035
The difference is Council was underwhelming while La+ was great in every single stream so far. It's honestly shocking how good she is.

>>13692628
So EN is literally operated from a cleaning supplies closet at the JP offices? That's even worse.

>>13693111
She will fall off too as EOPs lose interest.

By this threads logic then kson is far more successful than gura or pekora

>>13693035
Including 100k reddit bots that got removed after one day.

>>13693213
I can barely understand half of her speak and she's still 5x more entertaining than entire EN branch.

>>13693135
Where do you even put an EN office that makes sense? The ENs are decentralized.

>>13693213
She knows a bit of english. Lui speaks decent english. All they need to do is throw a bone from time to time like Coco or Chama did.

>>13693360
She knows the same amount of english that Gura knows of japanese. She's Pekora tier in that she's got a few phrases memorized. I noticed you didn't mention doog there tossing the EOPs a bone every now and then doesn't help.

>>13693489
Depends on the content. If she's really an fps streamer not knowing good EN is not a problem.

>>13693246
Coco was, kson isn't

Lol no cope harder. kson is constantly top of superchat charts as well

So yea this thread has shit logic

>>13686497
3/5 of council after 4 of work got beaten by a loli in less than 48 of hours, what do you think?

>>13690473 so...
>no.1 in tier1-2 memberships
>no.1 in vod views (mid-roll ad is a thing https://youtu.be/8Vbm0b26kng))
>original song has 6.4m views on spotify
>merch sold well
>highly sought-after for doing sponsor
>infinite exposure because of clipfags
>invisible revenue from member streams which she did it a lot

why is this board so obssess with superchats i will never understand

>>13695142
Because theyre just a bunch of 14 year old brainless faggots trying to get into a pissing contest on whos anime waifu gets to extort more money from them

>>13683938
I proclaim her the Gura Killer, I hope she lives up to the title.

>>13683938
Cunny always wins.

>>13693135

Lets also not forget that EN was expected to blow up like it eid and waa expected to be like ID. Not modern ID where Ollie and Moona are near a million either think more around Iofi or early Risu

I only watch ID and I speak only english. Just cant keep myself away from my babe risu

>>13683938
Will Gura lose her numbers now that purple gura speaks the nipponese?

>>13685502
>2021 only
Way to bury the lede there chief.

>>13695142
Because its the easiest thing for them to track, on websites that aren't even entirely accurate.
All of EN makes good income off just memberships, and SC is just a bonus.
Life isn't a race to see who makes the most money, and making more doesn't make you a better person or a better streamer, otherwise we'd all be watching XQC and Ninja or whoever streams now.

>>13689307
I doubt that lol, if anything most people would prefer to watch Minecraft with shaders

>>13685084
Is there a screencap of this? be a lot easier to use

>>13703585
oh nonono 2view ENcope

>>13692347
of course he doesn't, everyone here is mindless weeb

>>13685851
>Axeing one of the top channels on Youtube.
Your meds Schizo.

>>13703989
Why don't you just make one then? You litterally just need to push a button to take one.

>>13685456
>back when
Kek nijisister keep seething about their past glory. Time to move on anon

nijien is literally trash
Stop shilling those midgets

>>13695142
>>highly sought-after for doing sponsor
Kek, deluded chumbuds.
Gura is absolute garbage at sponsorships, she sleep walks through them and her taco bell sponsorship amounted to precisely fuck all.

You guys really don't understand how much normalfags don't care about vtubers, regardless of how popular they might be, they haven't left that niche sphere yet
The only thing Gura is queen off is dead subs.

>>13704834
Holo Council is trash.
Stop shilling those midgets.

>>13705257
>midgets
your lore reps anon

>>13705257
but sana is BEEG
also la+ had her subs purged again

>>13690963
This is a bait thread, anon. Once HoloX normalizes into the regular views and sub growth, they will pretend this shitposting never happened and go back to spamming Pekora's numbers.

>>13683938
Couldn't it just be the cunny?

>>13684183

streaming in general is the funniest thing

people just discovered there's tons of broke wagies who are still willing to be paypigs and make these people rich

>>13684183

Why split hairs when just about every Holo is effectively rich besides maybe the stars?