/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

Hololive Over 100k Concurrent Live Views (Holostats)

** Top 10 **

07/01/2021 491,342 Coco Graduation stream
05/07/2021 194,140 Gura Costume reveal
11/26/2021 167,584 La+ debut (NEW)
11/27/2021 149,755 Lui debut (NEW)
10/21/2020 145,305 Miko 3D Return stream
10/21/2020 140,116 Noel Costume reveal
07/03/2021 139,393 Marine 1M gen3 3DLive
10/18/2020 137,900 Marine Costume reveal
07/29/2021 136,068 Marine 2nd Costume reveal
05/03/2021 135,527 Mori Costume reveal


** The Rest **

12/13/2020 129,528 Pekora Pekomama debut
05/27/2021 126,480 Subaru Costume reveal
07/30/2021 124,596 Marine Birthday LIVE
12/31/2020 123,926 Hololive NYE stream
11/13/2020 119,493 Gura 2nd Karaoke stream
08/14/2020 113,092 Botan Hololive debut
01/31/2021 111,367 Nene Costume reveal
11/08/2020 109,860 Rushia Gen3 Smashbros
05/02/2021 109,792 Ayame Costume reveal
07/05/2020 109,528 Kanata 3D debut
06/27/2020 108,689 Coco 3D debut
07/18/2021 108,004 Rushia 2nd anniversary
06/23/2021 107,020 Coco Costume reveal
07/12/2020 105,716 Watame 3D debut
08/12/2020 103,408 Lamy Hololive debut
10/04/2020 101,868 Noel Outfit reveal
05/07/2021 101,843 Amelia Costume reveal
11/15/2020 101,171 Shion Costume reveal
05/09/2021 100,436 Aqua 2nd 3DLive

** Non-streams **
09/30/2021 118,000+ Coco pre-chat

===

Holo Nyanners is next

>>13705264
I just woke up, what's the final tally for yesterday ccv and sc?

>>13705412

Okay guys, I think I figured out a stable way for 2view to grow into 50+ viewers average and potentially beyond!
It's called doing frequent karaokes with tons of chat interactions and at least throwing a bone to English audience if you are JP chuuba!
Variety in karaokes will obviously help and ability to play instrument so you can play and sing at once as well
This only works for people that can sing but based on growth of vsingers I follow I'm pretty sure it works

>Pekora is reclining
>Marine is being Ayame 2.0
Gen3 bros...

>>13705339
Gura's first public karaoke hit over 100k too.

>>13705534
kek Niji doko?

So Lui is the extroverted one of the group, who is not shy at all in interacting with EN members. I guess she will be the first one to collab with an EN member.

>>13705743
Sultan

>13705693
>38k is reclining
>last upload 16 hours ago, last stream only 3 days ago
kys
>>13705776
Oil boy*

>>13705743
Making you a new baby brother.

>>13705743
Hatayo dumbass

>>13705794 (me)
4 days ago*
Unison just hit 5 mil views too.

>>13705633
>I think I figured out a stable way for 2view to grow into 50+ viewers average and potentially beyond! It's called doing frequent karaokes with tons of chat interactions
nah, doesnt really work
https://www.youtube.com/c/pieV202/videos

>>13705534
Nice, strike 2 of nijisanji having no 20k. Keep planting seeds

So how was the sub cull for HoloX? Does it look bad?

>>13705949
30k yesterday, 45k today, give or take a couple thousand.

>>13705633
they should try to leech off the hololive brand name by drawing them or sing their songs in a karaoke

>>13705735
Um no? I don't even need to look at the numbers since I was there. She only got 60k if I remember correctly

>>13705264
the real prev thread
>>13686813

>>13705295
should we add this to the list?
https://vrabi.ml/group
Also this is the actual previous >>13686813

>>13706062
>g no 20k. Keep pla
not him but wasnt it 116k?

>>13705949
before >>13694457
after >>13701579

>>13705949
Seems fine so far

>>13706062
>60k
not him but wasnt it 116k?

Holoshitters are getting exposed for sub botting once again. You love to see it. If Cover pays for subs then they definitely pay for views as well. Their statistics cannot be trusted.

>>13705735
I thought that was the second one? all I remember was the stream was unarchived and people coomed their brains out due to the numbers it was brain. at the time, it was nothing like we have ever seen before

>>13705921
To be fair the rest of her content is hard filter and her shorts in sub feed are pretty annoying

>>13705534
>The face of niji at the bottom and getting mogged by male
Wumao kek

>13706236
So sad to see that Anycolor can only buy 5k+ bots when nijikeks debuted Kek

>>13706220
nope
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/jzD_IGjaFTQ

>1.5m views on debut
>700k on zatsudan
>only 300k subs
is hololive that popular?

>>13706356
DOESNT COUNT!! The King didnt strem yesterday!

>>13706441
No. Vagoo is paying for subs and views. Hopefully he and his black company go bankrupt eventually.

Since the Gen6 debut trailer dropped 48 hours ago, all JP Holos have gained about 4k-5k subs across the board. It's been awhile since they have had such elevated passive growth, will be interesting if this is a flash in the pan that drops off once the debuts wrap up or if this is the start of a new growth plateau that brings in a new audience segment.

>>13706441
>is hololive that popular?
t. tourist

>>13706500
Who's vagoo?

>>13706525
Yagoo's pajeet counterpart

>>13706561
HoloIN confirmed?

>>13706561
Who's pajeet?

>>13706615
Niji's failed branch

>>13706441
>is hololive that popular?
What kind of question is that? Their overseas fanbase is absolutely massive.

>>13706441
https://youtu.be/r66UzB0WuGo
Iroas got some amazing views really fast with Kamippoi, I'm curious to see how Laplace and Shion fare in comparison.

>>13706615
Lurm moar

>>13706615
Isn't that the kid from that show Phineas and Ferb?

>>13706615
nijisanji en

>>13706666
>overseas fanbase
what about quiz which showed that Holo>Niji in term of popularity among JPs?

>>13706441
>Only 300k subs
>Just debut 2 days
Are numbers losers all this retarded?

>>13706669
that's fast. Loli will probably beat that tho

>>13706441
btw what was the highest number during debu of NijiJP's last gen?

>>13706441
Shes still trending

>>13706769
Obscure quizzes don't count, anon.

>>13706977
Nor does YouTube/Twitter polls, faggot. How many times do you want to cycle through this loop?

>>13706900
Her other stream

So had MYTH and IRyS had their subs culled just has bad pr worse as Council or JP6 would they have the same sub count they have now

https://twitter.com/OverideaHQ/status/1464532414512828421
huh? saw this last thread

Thoughts?
https://kworb.net/youtube/

>>13706900
>>13707021
>finally have a potential gura killer
>it's from the same company, but JP side
it's not fucking fair...

15

>>13707014
>>13706977
+Pekora is rather unique in regard of viewerbase.
im pretty sure Subaru/Marine will be different

>>13707038
Taiwan is a country
Free Tibet
Acknowledge the Tiananmen Massacre

- Xi the Pooh

>>13707032
The culling algorithm was deployed after IRyS' debut

>>13707038
Seems to be like 50% niji
It's probably like last "world-wide" chuuba medley I seen that will be 20% Americas, 10% Europe and rest will be concentrated in Asia

>>13707038
>bilibili
Sasuga chinksanji

>>13707075
i'm not sure she will have same or even close result (her personality seems to be pretty blant). +this Girl likes Valorant and Apex (Huge debuff for Holomember).

>>13707038
>NijiEN girls are her
btw how many NijiEN members know CN?

>>13706977
https://research-platform.line.me/archives/38519199.html
I wouldn't call a survey from the most popular social media app in Japan "obscure"

>>13707014
Till we all agree that Hololive's fanbase is mainly made up of overseas fan. To the point that they actually are the ones that run Cover.

>>13707392
Nah 100% japanese

Do more karaoke you dumb dragon.

>>13706086
Anon...
Look a little closer, it's in there already.
>>13707038
>BB
>>13707032
The sub cull algo was sent out in August, just before Council debuts. TeamYT spiel of 'yadayada update'. Surprise surprise, sub culling started being reported for anyone who gained a large amount of subs in a short period of time. I have no doubt this is meant to stop another Dream situation or that one YT creator who releases 'discord shorts' that also blew up by 'abusing' the YT algo.
Rather than try and catch these outliers by hand they just went with the blanket approach of fucking everyone who goes viral over with this subculling shit that baps you if you gain too big of a %of your current subcount (that's my best guess but who knows what the specific factors this bullshit is tracking)

What's with the ridiculous amount of number bait threads in the catalogue? Did 168k and 149k broke everyone's minds?

>>13705767
Sigh.. It's going to be kiara isn't it
bird together strong yada yada

>>13707032

Irys actually had a faster start than Gura at the beginning before leveling off. That wasn't surprising of course it was a singular Vsinger that everyone didn't know would stream regularly but people were starved for new EN and rumors about Gen2 were circulating. Kronii and Mumei debuted around 200K before getting culled twice and climbing back. The bar is probably at Irys

>>13707689
happens every debut

hmmmm king bros?

>>13707689
It popped a vein, they were ready to shitpost 'reclining' and went to plan b

>>13705743
Hayato Kanae Sultan Mito

>>13707689
This is just normal debut baiting combined with more ongoing Vshojo drama baiting, so it's especially bad.

>>13707038
>The only top dog is Kanae, again
Is Kanae the only top liver willing to associate with the plebs?
I rarely see the others do the same.

>>13707689
Yeah while waiting for this thread I'm reading the catalog and holy shit it's full with baits.

>>13707757
>afternoon stream competing with number rabbit
oh boy.

>>13707817
The others tend to be more focused on their own ambitions.

>>13706669
Lauren's covers got great numbers.

>>13707757
>LOL
He gets what he fucking deserves. No-one wants to watch league from chubbas. Unless you're a pro/ex-pro, stay away from that numbers poison.

>>13707817
Kanae is the 2view saviorfag of Nijisanji's popular caste

>>13707899
Anon... he is an ex-pro. He got kicked out of his team as an indie due to being too toxic. Then, Iwanaga saved him.

>>13707757
KING I KNEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLL

https://twpf.jp/eclair_taso
how fucking stacked is the bird?
the bird seems insanely competent. she's gonna be the botan of gen 6 and increase the market due to the Thai nature.

>>13707843
Ongoing Vshojo drama + MASSIVE record breaking JP debuts + Weekend
Catalogue was gonna be bad regardless of how the debuts went, but now our resident last samuari schizos and chink enschizo are having a field day unleashing bait upon bait on the rest of the board, who aren't used to their antics.
Sigh, as annoying as it is having them in here, at least that means the thread is doing its job keeping them contained. Seeing people bite the bait....it makes me lose what very little hope I had for this board.

>>13707843
I even found gen5 schizo outside /# today wtf

Come on susan do another cull

>>13707990
>He got kicked out of his team as an indie due to being too toxic
now ive got my interest

>>13707990
Ah fuck, he was an ex LOL player? I must've misread and thought he was from a different game. Well, I stand by my statement nonetheless, the game is numbers poison in JP, it doesn't look like league really took off in Japan.

>>13707032
>>13707032
I think Myth did slightly get culled. I remember watching Ame's debut and one of her goals were to get 100k subs which she promptly hit mid stream. A lot of people celebrated but after a day or so she was down to 80k again

>>13707990
>lol player
>toxic
i am surprised

Maimoto will continue the gimmick pokemon streams today. Probably big numbers from him if we go by how the first stream went

https://youtu.be/j7uLzoH8sgQ

>>13708115
It is poison, not even Unite post-release hype could get anyone interested. He doesn't stream LOL unless he really has nothing he wants to do atm and wants to chat, but he has a horror stream coming up possibly next week.

https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/following
https://twitter.com/kazamairohach/following

why are they following nijis

>>13708203
what is the gimmick?

>>13708203
good for him, I hope he does well. I have a soft spot for him due to his association with Subaru

>>13708041
>Artist
>Dance Choreography instructor
>Organizer
>Singer
>Gamer
>Scenario Writer
>Lyric writer
>Was in Charge of getting sponsorships, goods productions
>Did live events
She's pretty stacked.

>>13708188
being toxic is one of the characteristics to get big numbers.
see xqc, tyler1, Pekora

>>13708041
How did Cover find this girl?

>>13708254
fuck off
this s numbers thread

>>13707894
>1.2 million views in about a month and a half
>Great
Please, Gura gets that in less than a day

>>13708269
The Pokemon he plays with will be hatched from eggs sent in by fans. If I remember he also isn't gonna use any items during battles.

>>13708307
Friends with Mel.

>>13708269
Pokemon egg hatching.

>>13708269
'Mystery Egg from viewers'
So basically viewer participation x Gacha, he got 50k+ from basically out of nowhere, was pretty good to see.
>>13708280
*shakes head*
This....seriously, what kind of resume is this? HOW. DOES. IT. KEEP. HAPPENING?!

>>13708356
did edengumi have any nepotism hires?

>>13708307
Kiara said HoloJP ALWAYS has audition open

>>13708342
retard falseflagger, of all chuuba you'd have to pick Gura. pit him against tokyo ghoul

>>13708356
Didn't she work with IRyS too in their past lives?

>>13708304
>being toxic is one of the characteristics to get big numbers
explain Fauna then

>13708342
Anon....c'mon now. I know you're baiting but you really there is an advantage to having fucking 3.6 million subs y'know?

>>13708310
This is the general shitposting thread

>>13708364
>basically viewer participation x Gacha, he got 50k+ from basically out of nowhere
sasuga numberfag, i kneel to this lad

>>13708041
>>13708280
I hope Botan, Fubuki & Miko slapped the new bitch to humbleness

>>13708393
All JP Utaites pretty much know each other and/or have worked with others if they've been around logn enough. IRyS and now Lui have been at this for a while so its completely unsurprising that they'd end up working with/friends with Mel/AZKi etc.

>>13708307
I doubt they did. Hololive is big enough now and is a legit global phenomenon that they probably don't have to recruit that much anymore. The good talent comes to them.

>>13708402
>Fauna
>big numbers
lol

>>13708454
She's also a huge idolfag, she knows exactly what she got herself into.

>>13708454
>slapped the new bitch to humbleness
no need for that when she seemed pretty lowkey about her talent during her debut

>>13708464
Pretty much this

>>13706710
That's Baljeet

Probably the bggest meme review in a while for kson

>>13708041
shes a hag nice. the loli is a zoomer probably the youngest holo.

https://youtu.be/JDa4gFpLOM8
>abusing #shorts already
2/5 so far are numberfags
yup, gen 6 gonna be glorious for the /#/ thread.

>>13708528
Yeah she's more interested in flexing her English speaking ability. I hope she's Mio and Botan tier of levelheadedness.

Dumb and Introverts are cute but we also need variety.

>>13708593
kinda curious why? Pikamee here for teh 2nd time

>>13708655
>speak of the bird

>>13708655
>2/5
what was 1/5? eng?hag?

>>13708677
she's gonna fit the botan role very nicely, the designated tard wrangler of the gen

>>13708742
loli outright said she wants big numbers. hawk implied she wants numbers by releasing a cover and abusing #shorts after her debut

>>13708839
>loli outright said she wants big numbers.
but she was to lazy to do proper debu+ love Valorant

so whos going to be the top dog for gen 6?

Hololive


gen 0
Miko 2018/08/28 150
Suisei 2018/06/21 143

gen 2
Aqua 2018/08/08 ~1,500 (lowest, gen2 top dog)
Shion 2018/08/17 1,502
Ayame 2018/09/03 2,622 (highest)
Choco 2018/09/04 1,882
Subaru 2018/09/16 1,347

gen 3
Pekora 2019/07/17 5,349 (gen3 top dog)
Rushia 2019/07/18 6,199
Flare 2019/08/07 5,092 (lowest)
Noel 2019/08/08 10,218 (highest)
Marine 2019/08/11 7,506

gen 4
Kanata 2019/12/27 14,866
Coco 2019/12/28 11,052 (lowest) (gen4 top dog)
Watame 2019/12/29 13,980
Towa 2020/01/03 17,552 (highest)
Luna 2020/01/04 17,065

gen 5
Lamy 2020/08/12 103,348
Nene 2020/08/13 80,034 (lowest)
Botan 2020/08/14 112,925 (highest, gen5 top dog)
Aloe 2020/08/15 83,819
Polka 2020/08/16 97,658

------------------------------ 2021 (post-spamview)

gen 6
Laplus 2021/11/26 167,584
Lui 2021/11/27 149,755

HoloEN


Myth Debut: 2020/09/12~13
Calliope - 67,743
Kiara - 70,190 (lowest)
Inanis - 71,061
Gura - 79,035 (highest, en1 top dog)
Amelia - 68,265

------------------------------ 2021 (post-spamview)

Hope Debut: 2021/07/11
Irys - 91,280

Council Debut: 2021/08/23
Sana - 85,105 (lowest)
Fauna - 94,206
Kronii - 94,966 (highest, en2 top dog)
Mumei - 93,128
Baelz - 92,998

>>13708939
Migo...

>>13705949
Not even close to Council

>>13708345
Did he use set mode for battle rather than shift mode?

>>13708411
I thought subs doesn't matter in this thread?

>>13709031
council got massacred compare to holox

>>13708655
if only she added eng subs..

>>13708307
She auditioned

Subaru 20k already. Her incline is one of the most beautiful things I have seen.

Fauna is getting 11k right now btw

>>13708764
>the designated tard wrangler of the gen
Well, it's literally her lore, right?

How well is Lui's cover doing compared to other Hololive ones?

>as much as I hate numbers
Reine...

>>13708464
This. If they used to be an utaite or has experience streaming on NND then there is a big chance they knew some of the current members. It's not a fucking nepotism for fuck sake.

>>13709218
In a collab with belz
Reine is on a collab with kronii and at 5k, her highest in the past 3 months

>>13708655
https://twitter.com/sakamatachloe/status/1464516788339634189
Great time ahead for sure.

>>13708939
Laplus
It's only going downhill from here, the last girl won't even reach 100k (this time for sure)

>>13709254
>400k after ~15h
pretty good i ll say

>>13709483
It will not slip?

>>13709416
I disagree, I think they'll all be able to hit 100k.
Especially if Kazama pulls out a l2d katana or something.

>>13709318
>5k, her highest in the past 3 months
fcking id debuff

>>13708939
how can one compete with cunny?

>>13709416
It will not slip?

>>13709483
It would be even better if she didn't fuck up her debut with the shit karaoke at the end

>>13709637
>It would be even better if she didn't fuck up her debut with the shit karaoke at the end
I think that's part of the skit but I agree it will be higher if she was allowed to sing. Also her nervousness debuffed her

So, nijis still wouldn't hope to win December too, huh?

Gold/Silver is gonna be a cycle between gen 6, pekora, marine and miko. Monetization, full collab, duo collabs, myth outfits, pekora outfit and holofest.

Even after the dec is over, there's a new minecraft arc happening after the 30th along with gen 6 coming out from the collab ban. They'll celebrate new years with gen 1 and gen 2 getting outfit reveals too.

>>13708480
Fauna is toxic

>>13709483
It's really good. She'll beat Suisei's phony.
>>13709637
She was nervous. If you checked her old songs, she is pretty good.

>>13709733
That reminds me, Kiara confirmed outfits currently set at the week of Dec 6

What's the current median of Kuzuha?

>Reine and Krooni
what the fuck

>>13709898
BOOBA

>>13709733
>Ayame, Aqua, Shion Birthdays
>ID2 Debut Anniversary
>Mio, Kanata, Watame Debut Anniversary

>>13709416

>>13709733
That’s fine, Niji’s New Year stream - the one that shows how many casual / non otaku and how far of a reach each group has to normal people - will beat Holo’s again anyway

>>13709832
23k

>>13709999
If it can't beat gen 6's debut number then it's a failure

26k for Subaru

>>13709830
Is this a rrat or she told the details in her recent members stream?

>>13708691
Perhaps she's getting algo boosted? Even if she's no longer an active member, there's still a lot of sub crossover between KSON and Holomem, and given that there's a lot of algo buzz thanks to the new debuts...(This is without speculating anything wrt the contents of the meme reviews, I also missed what it peaked at today)

>>13709999
Apparently Nijifags considers Niji winning once makes Hololive's Multiple dominating wins useless.

That is such a high level cope

>>13710006
Damn its getting lower and lower.

>>13709733
>holofest
not happening this year. it will be around March or whenever Japan allows live audience again

>>13710088
>I also missed what it peaked at today
i saw at least 10k+

>>13709830
Do you have a timestamp? Although it's reasonable to put it after ID2's anniversary. Still curious about the reason to delay, which Kiara said we will understand if we know it.

>>13710080
From her members stream today.

>>13709082
Kek
Anyone that disregards subs, or any metric for that matter, deserves to get their numbers license revoked and be stamped with the title "Numbernigger". CCV, Vods, Subs, engagement, SC. They all matter, but Gura kinda broke the sub comparisons, and Pekora is such a CCV titan that she beats out everyone on a monthly basis.

>>13710006
Kuzuha's back gave up.
Man deserves a month break after trying to hardcarrying Nijishit.

>>13710136
thanks for sharing but jesus, she's got a big mouth

>muh subs
Kizuna Ai is still the queen btw

>>13709830
It's very clear that EN outfit debut streams are rescheduled because JP6 debut

>>13710154
I don't think it's only a Gura issue, holos with absolute dogshit views like Matsuri and Kiara have over 1m subs

>>13710135
>Still curious about the reason to delay, which Kiara said we will understand if we know it.
pretty sure they are not finished yet.
no1 wants another rombus face

>>13710177

He mentioned on twitter that he will try to stream everyday of December. Doing some challenge (?)

>>13710177
He is currently losing to subaru now.

27k watching Subaru do some yakuza side quest

>>13710135
I bet it has something to do with Gura's rigging.

>>13710135
If Gura has actual rigging this time, that would explain everything.

>>13710219
Heh. Even all the subs in the world can't stop self-inflicted debuffs, and the age-old adage of 'Subs do not directly correlate with CCV' still holds.
You know damn well why they're as low as they are.

>POTENTIAL GOLD EVENTS - DEC 2021

1) Gen 6 Full collab / Aqua birthday
7) Mio Anniversary (Totsu/3D)
8) Shion birthday (Totsu/3D)
13) Ayame birthday (Totsu/3D)
27) Kanata anniversary (Totsu/3D)
29) Watame anniversary (Totsu/3D)
30) Potential minecraft spams

Unconfirmed - Myth outfit (5 days/1 day relay), Pekora outfit, Gen 6 Monetization celebration (5 days)

That's already 18 potential golds in the bag for Hololive.

>>13708939
Funny how Covid ended up as the best thing to happen to Hololive

>>13710211
It's really not seeing how they were due September, cancelled to October, cancelled to december. That's a lot of ore gen6 wiggle room

>>13710136
Ok, next question, what is the order of outfit reveal lol

>>13710313
Just add some daily pekora

>Konii + Reine + Fauna + Bael + Mori = 25k
>Duck 27k

>>13710088
The algo is not a meme. Remember le "forbidden knowledge". Newfags who can't into reps just stumbling into roommate stuff from youtube recommendeds.

>>13710313
niji mario kart can probably take at least 2 days and I'm saying this as a holofag

>>13710385
Well, that's for certain I guess. Was the date confirmed?

>Reine 7k
nijien tournament fucking mogg by HoloID
Holy fucking kek

>>13709999
>wanting normies
>tv
lol. It's anime shit, it'll never catch on with normies

Any expectations for the next Gen 6 debut?

>>13710322
>cancelled to October, cancelled to december
Isn't it cancelled to November, cancelled to december? Probably I'm wrong though

>>13710498
Koyori 180k

>>13710360
>Konii + Reine + Fauna + Bael + Mori = 25k
which YT channel?

Subaru about to break 30k with Yakuza

>>13710576
NTA, but it's
>Reine ch
>Fauna ch
>Mori ch

>>13710502
It was originally announced for the end of September during the anniversary collab, then delayed indefinitely

>>13710432
NijiEN MK tourny was ~8k

>>13710498
i'm leaning higher than hawk girl, 150k-160k. No way it can beat the loli

>>13710502
They were salted to be revealed after the anniversary, but were pushed back again and again and again.
Well, we'll know for sure once we see Gura's rigging. If it's still RIGGER, then it was for some other reason, but if they actually went and got a different rigger the answer will be clear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pX3Ss-JYEU
Any chance for a bronze?

Subaru is beating every other holo combined...

>29k in the middle of the day
this duck is literally pekora tier with her yakuza and pokemon streams

>>13710660
Yeah never underestimate Marine.

>>13705633
That only works if your voice at least at hachi level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32RJPfqxwFo
This holo fan animation already has 159k views after 13 hours

>>13710666
And the entirety of nijis as well. Kuzuha is streaming as well right now.

>>13710717

It should have more. The amount of work on this, jesus

>>13710690
Kind of insane how popular her weekend Yakuza streams have been

>>13710749
It's pretty decent for a channel with 39k subscribers

>>13708939
jesus holoen is really inferior to holojp

>>13710502
>>13710628
Chances of it being the same double rigger? Or Cover got competent and hired a different one?

>>13710666
Shuba strong. All of Gen 2 is strong now, excluding Choco who used to be one of the strongest, butt they dont have the UNITY of Gen 3.

>>13710660
Im reading matome and they are talking about marine&kanata pokemon. If this is true then it would get good numbers.

>>13710498
130-140k, give or take a few thousands. Her Twitter was frozen so she couldn’t play the early introduction game the other two did. I’d have said 120k, but she looks cute so that might be a buff

>>13710660
No, no one care about Kanata.

>>13710666
They are in the same company nijisister
Subaru is beating entire niji combine

>>13710717
Man, this dude, is a true holofan. That's a lot of goddamn references packed into one 4 minute animation.

>>13710821

>Her Twitter was frozen so she couldn’t play the early introduction game the other two did.

That itself can be a buff too, tho. People are extra curious to see how she is like without any twitter interaction to use as reference.

Can we know add Subaru on the talk for the new 4 heavenly kings and leave Kuzuha behind?

>>13707689
It sends nijisisters to full on extreme seethe mode

>>13707850
>afternoon stream competing with number rabbit
oops>>13710690
>29k in the middle of the day
>this duck is literally pekora tier with her yakuza and pokemon streams

>>13710791
>rigger
Did he rig any jp holos?

>>13710931
Ange was replaced by Lui

>>13710958
Coco's new year outfit is the only one I know.

>>13710799
Aqua...

They have more Englsih clips in two days than the entirety of Nijisanji in two months.

>>13708203
Finally a worthy Challenger

>>13710901
Kuzuha without APEX and without big collabs is strong but not THAT strong. Only retards who don't watch him overhyped him. Look at his previous shit with League/Tarkov/Blade of the Conqueror/etc when its not collab with other big dudes. Similar with Shibuya Hal, retards don't watch/dont know what streams are about and just hype em up.

>>13710737
>>13710852
Doesn't change the fact that she's beating all of Hololive

>>13705339
I'm calling bullshit, how does Marine make up a third of the top 10 while Pekora isn't in the top 10 at all?

>>13710901
Yeah, you can't call a chuuba that get regular 10ks as heavenly.

>>13711117
...for a bronze

>>13711099 (me)
*two weeks.

>>13708356
Mel and FBK always has the best nepo hire

>>13711135
Pekora's thing is consistency, she never had a proper outfit reveal after becoming the dominant chuuba. The only really big events she had were Pekomama reveal and maybe PekoMoona collab #1.

>>13709999
>the one that shows how many casual / non otaku and how far of a reach each group has to normal people
>>13711099

>>13711135
Look at the stream content of what the top streams are. It's costume reveals, lives, birthdays, and anniversaries. Pekora hasn't had any costumes from Cover, and all her event streams have been run poorly.

30k get for chiwasu

>>13711135
>while Pekora isn't in the top 10 at all?
>new outfit when
>can't sing or dance
>perform badly at big collab that isn't minecraft

>>13709999
how many did they get vs Holo?

>>13710901
Pekora -Boss/Oyabun

Four Kings:
Miko
Marine
Subaru
Kuzuha

>>13711135
>>13711213
I'm sure considering how big a fuzz is about her outfit delay and how big the fanbase now, it's like a 150k outfit reveal with a potential to exceed over 200k

>>13711276
>perform badly at big collab that isn't minecraft

Example anon or are you talking some bullcrap. I remember her doing fine with among us collab.

>>13711313
>Kuzuha
You're joking right?

>>13708280
>>13708041
Her portfolio seems ambitious which is very good and just what the holo need to expand further

>>13711313
>Miko

>>13711313
>>13711372
lmao he had to separate pekora, sad cope

>>13711381
Botan is good but she has the retired boomer mindset and I'm saying this as a fan of her. I hope the bird is more ambitious than the lion.

>>13711313
We're doing this again?
Just make it 3 kings and have one of the most important numbers for a chubba for one slot, maybe CCV, subs and SC

>>13711419
>Top 4 is umisea - ina + pekora

rumao

Subaru getting some bleeding to Pekora now, I expect both to hold big numbers throughout the day, both with potential for growth since Pekora will be fighting some gym leaders and Yakuza 0 is full of hype generating moments

>>13711313
Why not just make oyabun and the kings for both companies. Mixing them makes no sense when people still outperform Kuzuha, or just make a Hololive one only.

>>13711551
Because it will look sad when Niji's king lineup includes chuubas who do low-tier Holo numbers.

>>13711348
100k-150k is possible but 200k is a bit much lmao

I love Pekora but i can't see her getting 200k in just an Outfit (150k is also hard to imagine)

can he do it

>>13711596
Is it because she already has a 3D, idol outfit and new year kimino (and the inmate outfit) which is nothing really novel about her having a new outfit?

>>13711295
NTA, but looking at the archive, it was 127k (Niji) vs 123k (Holo) on the main channel (some sites showed 116k for Holo). The difference seems to be small enough that it can go both way, I guess

>>13711135
Cope Nutsagi LMAO

This list will be:

1.Coco's graduation
2.Gura outfits reveal
3.Gen 6 debut (NEW)
4.Gen 6 debut (NEW)
5.Gen 6 debut (NEW)
6.Gen 6 debut (NEW)
7.Gen 6 debut (NEW)
8.Miko 3D return concert
9.Noel outfits reveal
10.Marine 1M Gen 3 3D Live

Cry more

The 7 knights of the round table
1) Pekora
2) Marine
3) Miko
4) Gura
5) Subaru
6) Rushia
7) Suisei

The four horsemen of the apocalypse
1) Kuzuha
2) Kanae
3) Fuwa
4) Toya

>>13711670
Samefagging

>>13710498
153K i went precise this time

>>13711362
Oct 29, 2021【PUBG】PEBOT :: 18,242
Oct 12, 2021【Back 4 Blood】PEBOT :: 23,319
Sep 6, 2021【PAYDAY2】PEBOT :: 27,742
Aug 27, 2021 【MK8DX】 :: 25,981

>>13709999
the main ch is a debuff.

>>13711670
Damn Pekora really is irrelevant

Pekora climbing pretty fast, guess it's an inevitable 35k+

Nousagi please ignore the obvious bait lmao

>>13711681
>apocalypse
Not wrong. That's what they are experiencing now

>>13711681

Switch Kanae with Toya. I don't know the exact CCV but recently I feel like Fuwa is doing better than Kanae too (At least this month with Splatoon buff)

>>13711681
>Suisei
So are we forgetting Mori now?
>Kanae
>Fuwa
Replace this with Maimoto and Lize

>>13711771
Don't worry bro I'm watching her numbers while he replies to himself

>>13711738
>big collab
We are talking about big collab no? PEBOT isn't exactly a big collab.

>>13706900
So is the answer being Chuuni on the debut? The dropping it couple of days after?

Holy shit pekor I kneel. Pokemon is bigger buff than Minecraft

>>13711681
Should be 13 knights of the round table for hololive

>>13711681
Kanae is an 10k+ solid rock performer but Toya varies from almost 20k average for zatsudan to more when he's doing viewer participation.

>>13711771
>no fun allowed

>>13710901
>>13711313
>>13711551
Why insist on the same format (oyabun+4 kings)? Why not Jesus and 12 Apostles? The Holy Trinity? 72 Virgins? Make-Your-Own-Format?
Niji can have their own. Holo can have theirs.

Did pekora delay her stream to block maimoto's pokemon stream?

>>13711670
People call Pekora CCV queen
But why she can't even get in top 10 CCV record?

I think the weekend afternoon slot was getting slept on until Pekora and Subaru decided to dig away at it until they found gold. I think other girls can move their weekend streams to these slots if they don't want to compete in JP primetime

>>13711738
>Aug 27, 2021 【MK8DX】 :: 25,981
Bad player still got the best numbers so what's your point???

>>13711774
>774
What did he mean by this

>>13711951
Let Hololive be Jesus and his holy 12, and Nijisanji the trinity (of failure or whatever you fellows prefer)

>>13710901
He still gets more viewers than her on average. These Yakuza 0 streams are huge outliers for some reason. Her Kiwami streams were getting similar numbers as his LoL stream right now.

>>13711960
Based

>>13712059
Subaru has been doing well but Yakuza 0 is massive buff for sure. Her normal Yakuzo 0 streams beat the finale of the last Kiwami game she finished

>>13711502
Seeing from her goals, she probably here to abused the shit out of holo's resource to fullfill those wishlist. The way she really play into the keyfabe with La+ last night has shown that she is willing to go far and beyond.

>>13711099
Based on your shitty site, right?

>>13712034
it's happening!!!!

The real Gura killer.

>>13711786
>Toya
This is only for livers who actually stream anon

>>13712201
>here to abused the shit out of holo's resource to fullfill those wishlist
please, Yagoo loves ambitious women

Holonumbers, Pekora and Subaru 60k alone.

>>13712448
nijisister...

>Maimoto mogging kuzuha

>>13711681
Why do you faggots insist that Gura is on the same level as the JPs

>>13711951
Just to be consistent with Ai's Generation.

I know there are more high tier chuubas nowadays, but we have to be consistent

Pekora keeps climbing and Subaru refuses to drop from 30k. I guess they have little overlap, usually when Miko, Pekora and Marine are streaming at the same time they seem to suffer a bit more

>>13712580
>>13711419
Even if you are a ccv only moron which only indicates how well a person's time slot overlaps with their core audience the data doesn't lie.

>>13712580
Because she is?

Any big guns left in niji?

>>13712672
Arent the two biggest niji guns literally in that screenshot?

>>13712672
>Rena 9k
That's good numbers
>Collab stream
ew, can't even get good numbers without leeching

>>13711738
Anything below 30k is worse than her usual

>>13712666
>because she is
>can't even get 15k CCV this week
R U M A O
CHUMPEDO COPE CAN'T ACCEPT THAT MEMESHART IS MOGGED EVERY SINGLE TIME BY JP TALENTS

>>13712672

Gwelu will have a 3D stream later. It's him, Tomoe and Fuwa

https://youtu.be/p5n12eJw6WM

Well, thread was civil for too long I guess, I'll just go watch Pekora and see you guys in the debut

>>13712672
Anyone knows why kneel bros don't defend king anymore?

>>13712801
cringe, besides this last two weeks pekoras total vod views are a factor of .6 to .8 of Gura's and only now is she on even footing and it remains to be seen if the meta will let her keep up a streak of 700k bombs to keep up with gura.

>>13712866
It won't beat the debut anyway.

It does not slip! But seriously, what's the expected numbers for non debut 3d Niji streams?

>13712801
Yeah, you're retarded. I'm still sticking Gura to other JPs.

uh oh... Pekora is starting to fish

>>13712919
Looking for some feebas which is pretty rare.

>>13712919
It's for another pokemon, not shiny hunt so no big number boost.

>>13712866
>25k

>inclining: Pekora, Subaru
>stalling: Miko
>reclining: holoEN

>>13712905
20k-30k

>>13712887
unloyal

>>13712919
>Can't even beat FBK numbers
Why is Pekora such a trash?

>>13712905

>expected numbers for non debut 3d Niji streams

Very hard to predict desu. This trio seems like to have good popularity (Nothing really big) so I expect at least 20 to 25k. Can go higher even because Fuwa in particular is way more popular than the other two.

>>13712986
Can't be bothered figuring out the percentages, but catching Feebas is hard enough you could make a challenge out of it.

>>13713000
Yeah, Council can't even do their proper job as collab cum sluts for myth but its also mainly on myth being neurotic and debuffing themselves.

>>13713000
>>reclining: holoEN

November 1-27 / October (gain)
>Gura 21,384 / 22,336 (-953)
>Ina 10,718 / 9,565 (+1,153)
>Mori 9,585 / 8,616 (+969)
>IRyS 9,461 / 9,199 (+262)
>Mumei 9,053 / 7,904 (+1,149)
>Ame 8,570 / 7,004 (+1,566)
>Kronii 8,051 / 11,514 (-3,463)
>Fauna 7,333 / 7,941 (-609)
>Kiara 6,598 / 6,553 (+45)
>Baelz 6,171 / 6,783 (-613)
>Sana 5,638 / 3,752 (+1,886)

>>13713052
It can only be done with a super rod so Pekor was wasting her time

>>13712897
Kek
Can't even use your VOD view cope cause meme shark is reclining in VOD view

>>13713095
Kronii's career suicide will never not be weird

Council

>>13713000
>>13713095
So Myth did incline while Council is dragging the numbers numbers down Kek, this recruits

>>13713095
Stop...
Don't expose him...

>>13712381
That's what im saying, hers are the type that yagoo need the most for new gens. There are no more time to groom new gen into being motivated to pursue something like the older ones. Time to saviorfag the ambitious

>>13713148
Sanners...

>>13713129
Yes with shark shooting herself in the kneecap and pekora having a string of massive buffs only right now in this moment has pekora caught up to shark.

>>13713172
Pekora this year in total has around 50 million more VOD views than Gura. It's not really a recent thing.

>>13713095
if you add all those up its a tiny amount of growth EN is stalling in the air like a plane before free fall unless something revitalizes them.

>>13713152
>Myth incline
>Gura reclined in CCV
Uhh chumfaggot? Since when were illiterate children allowed in 4chan

>>13713231
LMAO fucking cope

>>13713261
Truth hurts

>>13713095
Is like Kronii doesn't want to be a Vtuber.

>13713251
Anon kronii reclined 3k, or are you a seething guraschizo Kek?

how's the purge going?

>>13713296
She is a unityfag anon.. waiting for her genmates to catch up desu

>>13713296
She had everything to succeed, even her debut went fine. What the hell happened

>>13713095

Holy shit Kronii... I imagined that the recline would be bad but not this bad

>>13713335
She doesn't lilke streaming
Basically ENayame

>>13713318
Not as bad as council for now
>>13713335
This>>13713334

>>13712887
Kuzuha stopped producing numbers, so they canno use him to shit up the thred.

>>13713129
Damn Gura's VODs views really are fucking beast
besides DMC

>>13713306
Looks like JP vs. EN isn't enough now, we need EN civil war.

>>13713318
Bullying the loli pretty hard

>>13712887
They are samefagging as gura and pekoschizo nowdays

>>13713419
After checking the ballots, Pekora is pulling better averages lately but all Shark has to do is release some music and she cocks bunny back down in the dirt.

>>13712771

>Rena 9k
>That's good numbers

Went up to 10k now. She and Hayato seems like a pretty popular duo.

>>13713419
There is one DMC with her doing zatsudan in the first hour did great though lol (and we all know the moment she started to play DMC).

>>13713419
Oh no no no no ENschizo???

>>13713502
It's so tiresome

>>13713419
>Colorful stage
>12k ccv
>400k views
????

Pekora 36k, Subaru 28k, and then the fucking homo numbers.
What are holo males lacking?

Oh no

>>13712672
LOL small numbers

>>13713642
time zones anon

>>13713642
DMC had better CCV and was longer and has way less views. These counters are just weird but there's no alternative to them

>>13713642
Retarded last samurais like to pretend it isn't true but Gura legitimately has 2x as much CCV as Susan shows.

At 6 hours of Koyomi's debut, 2.3k are on the waiting room. Looks like is going to be a better number than Lui.

>>13713711
OH NO NO NO KINGKEKS EXPLAIN

>>13713167
Not so fast!

>>13713711
Lol, lmao even

>>13713642
Anon, have you ever wondered why CCVschizos hate VODs? I'll give you a hint: Gura's a grower, not a shower...

>>13713711
>Losing to 12 fps RE7 with game crashes and talking about avocado pizza

nijibros...

>>13713748
cant rewrite history, if anyone is effected by Susan its that only nips are counted in nip streams

>>13713863
cuteRys

>>13713891
>still coping that the Black Ships blew the myth of JP superiority into pieces
Lmaooo go back to /jp/, you're better off continuing to seethe there that Gura made your nip holos obsolete

>CCVschizos
This has to be bait right? There's no way there are people this retarded in these threads

>>13713095
What is with Ina and her eternal incline? Is it because she was at the bottom at the start?>>13713140
I get Sana, but why Mumei incline?

>>13713942
think you responded to the wrong person as what you say makes no sense.

>>13713951
see:
>>13713129
>>13713208
>>13713726
>>13712580

>>13711787
What about Mori?

>>13713748
Actually Gura has 20x as much CCV as what is shown. She is the most watched streamer in the world, Susan just hates her.

>>13713711
>Losing to a 373k subs
Deadsubs? Deadsubs ninjisister

Maimoto getting stalled at 15k it seems. Going from a almost 55k stream to this is kinda.....

>>13714062
t. falseflagging ENschizo
If you normalize the expected numbers after correcting for adblock usage Gura is around 40k median CCV as a streamer

Marine is reclining if she can't get 30k with pokemon today.

Is this an unironic chumbud throwing a fit or what? I can't even tell what's ironic and what isn't anymore

Damn, maybe we should do numbers for the amount of bait in this thread. I estimate it to be around 80-90 % at the moment.

>>13714174
will you hang if she gets past that?

>>13714248
Why would i?

>>13714212
Protip: if you see them attack another holo they're not a chumbud but a falseflagging nijinigger. Actual chumbuds have never shat on other holos or their fanbases.

>>13714220
100% of posts of posts here can be classified as bait. Even non-bait pure factual numbers will bait out one of the schizos.

>>13713711
Shit after mogged by Mel, king jumped out from his castle or something? Even mogged by Fauna ffs

>>13714261
That's the weight of your prediction

>>13714295
I watch both Gura and Pekora so whenever this guy starts posting my brain just turns off.

>>13714212
Enschizo is unironically a chumbud
Gura always rent free in his head

>>13714102
tourist central. how can niji make tourists stay?

>>13714479
Change their brand to holo.

>>13714295
Let's just pretend the FBK chat incident didn't happen. Or the lofi amogus.

>>13713524
They're great together.

>>13714479
Stop using term liver for their vtuber

>>13714479
stop forcing the riku meme

>>13713752
Not bad, la+ was at 2.6k waiting at 6 hours before debut. Lui only got to 2.4 at 4 hours.