/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>13779942
Pink cat good

Pink cat aight'

Pink cat done goofed

>>13779942
Pink cat caved, same with Vei

https://twitter.com/nyannyanners/status/1465216128645406724
https://twitter.com/Veibae/status/1465208502989828100

Nothing from Mel yet.

>>13779942
Vshitshow slowly kneeling before they make a full blown public apology for trying to slander Nux and sending their talent to attack him on twitter for damage control.

>>13779942
Here's the quick rundown / QRD

Maximum Damage Control

>>13779942
You mess with the Batman don’t be surprised when you get the Joker

>>13780130
>>13780161
>>13780180
>>13780187
>>13780198
Why is nux deleting all his twitter posts right NOW

>>13779942
Vshojo Lied People Died

>>13780220
They paid him to stay quiet just like they did with all the people that got doxxed and swatted.

>>13780220
Did his Twitter get hacked?

>>13780130
that 2nd tweet of ners, still passive-aggressive

>>13780130
>taing a break already
so much for being a bad bitch that likes drama

>>13780306
What a slimy bitch

>>13780180
Reading has not changed my stance on anything and i wasted my time

I still like vshojo, neutral on nux, and fuck twitter

>>13780306
colour me shocked

I hope they don't revert the blacklisting on nux
He's still a piece of shit who dragged everybody into this retarded dramafest for clicks

>>13780629
*color

>>13780130
i love poeple callin them out on the comments
i hope both are meheraenough to read those too and keep feeling like pieces of shit.

>>13780220
Because the Jew got caught.
Thus SHUT IT DOWN

>>13780714
learn english, murican

>>13780713
I hope they don't revert the blacklisting on Vshojo
They are still a piece of shit who dragged everybody into this retarded dramafest for deflection

>>13780901
*American

>>13780130
And she was so damn sure of herself -- her safety was in danger! -- like less than a week ago.

>>13780306
what a bitch

>>13780406
She is, the "mental" break is really just her seething because management finally slapped her the fuck down.

Before this all happened
>trannies, pedos, and SEAchimps hate VShojo

After this all happened
>trannies, pedos, and SEAchimps still hate Vshojo

>>13780306
Real or fake?

>>13781301
After
>justifiably so

>>13779942
>thinks shes untouchable, runs her mouth
>caught in multiple lies
>forced to apologize

>>13782080
vshojo are refugees to hololive en's immigration.
sure the latter is a long term problem, but don't deny how bad the optics are when the worst of the worst types of people are brought on to this board.

>>13782218
This is a Vshitjo falseflag against Holo by purposefully posting with the latest pedobait chuuba

NYANDERTHALS ON SUICIDE WATCH, FUCKING PINK SCAT, ONCE A GRIFTER, ALWAYS A GRIFTER

YOU HAVENT CHANGED AT ALL PINK SCAT

>>13782297
meds now

This was all a publicity stunt

>>13780240
Vshoujo probably threatened legal action (and presumably extra legalaction such as making him a pariah on social media via the cabal's whisper network) if he didn't accept their fake apologies and shut it all down. Truly the blackest of all companies.

It's still quite a good teachable moment when it comes to getting involved with corpos as an indie. They riffraff should've aware that corpos can crush them on a whim without even needing a good reason to. If anything, Vshoujo didn't just taint their own reputation, but rather the reputations of all vtubing companies by using their weight as a company to crush Nux into submission.

Heck, if I was a corpo, I'd probably be mighty pissed at Vshoujo on principle alone because of how bad a look it is for corporate vtubing. That's not to say Nux is a saint, but he's no worse than any other bottom feeding dramatuber. It's Vshoujo who as a vtubing company, are expected to adhere to a higher standard of professionalism. If they're not doing that and as a result it causes upheaval within the space where I'm trying to do business, well...thay'd just mean there'd be grounds for a conversation about how Vshoujo's ongoing existence may continue to suck all the air out of the room and be somewhat bad for business.

This is why you don't watch westerner vtubers, they are no different than e-thots but people watch them and forgive them anything just because they are using an avatar, again, the difference between hololive and vshojo is abysmal

>>13781301
Careful there buddy, you don't want your oshi to ban you, do you?

>>13780130
>Comments aren't full of Yesmen for both girls
So this is the power of Nux

>>13779942
Better Pink Cat dropped.

>>13780388
of course. this is all PR, neither of them even have the courage to say his name. but still, seeing them getting eating crow for thanksgiving was nice.

>>13780306
What did anyone actually think Vei and Nyanners apology was genuine? Like they've been notoriously known for hating the guy.

He provided them with their audience and he just as easily snapped his fingers and made that audience go after them when it became clear what the actual situation was.

Don't underestimate spergs.

>>13780306
based

They tried to have beef with batman with the personality of the joker

>>13780306
God I hate Vwhores.
Except Ironmouse.

why she no strim

>>13780952
>they
lul

>>13782509
>GRIFTER,
get this man a dictionary, stat

>>13791107
Imagine falling for a platonic liars lies time and time again
Do these losers actually think Nyanners will have sex with them if they do?

>>13787758
Nah, that's the power of being a lying whore and getting caught. This is why you always screenshot stuff when you feel is getting pretty sensitive.

>>13795717
Yes, just like Vei audience think that if they call themselves virgin losers who want to fuck her makes it ok and ironic.

>>13780952
I feel bad for mousey, she believed the pink whore and most likely her collab with calli that she was teasing will get canceled for it.

>>13780130
COWARDS!

>>13779942
turns out that nyanners isn't as good at running a company as she thought she'd be

>>13796138
imagine believing this
the whole thing was a nothingburger caused by Nux falling for bad info from his own would-be doxxers, Nyan screwed the pooch by vagueposting in her discord but nothing's going to come from this otherwise
there were doxxers imitating Nijisanji EN members earlier this year that also were never publicly addressed. this shit is happening more or less all the time, only notable difference with this one is anime Leafyishere

>>13783235
So you don't watch hololive EN??

I'm more upset Vshojo didn't finish the job and just murder Nux's career. I don't care if whores or saints fuck him over, as long as he gets fucked. Cowards.

>>13796361
based

>>13780220
Is it just because they all realize this situation will probably blacklist all of them from working in the VTuber space?

>>13796361
They tried anon, but black company management didn't keep them in the loop enough to get the details right and they were forced to back down
please understand

>>13796361
Kind of hard to murder anyone when they only had lies, unfortunately for them Nux also got doxxed because of Vshojo so if he wanted to he could even take it to court. Good thing he is a nice guy huh
And yes lying about a security breach and hiding it for months IS illegal especially by japanese laws where Vshojo was founded.

>>13780130

>>13796657
LMAO they didn't lie about a security breach for months. The phishing attacks only occured in the month of October, and everything prior to that wasn't done by actors posing as Vshojo
>lying about a security breach and hiding it for months IS illegal especially by japanese laws
Someone needs to tell Cover and Nijisanji then. We didn't hear about the airtag incident for months, and when we did hear about it talent discussed it before corporate. And Nijisanji still hasn't addressed the phishing scam that their prospective applicants got hit with this Fall

>>13796361
they tried everything they could but nux fanbase is more edgy and as soon as they retaliated with "dilate" tier attacks on the vtroons. they broke down and raised the white flag. the receipts from joker nux also didnt help

while i am neutral towards both sides, i strongly believe if nux didnt make the video, vshojo would have stayed silent about this forever. I don't get their "you should only care about my safety" stance they have towards the victims.

>>13796781
Nijisanji and Hololive never doxxed the people that auditioned to them
Nyanners will NEVER touch your micropenis

>>13796657
I feel like vshojo needs to reconsider their managers and tighten their leashes on the vshojo girls. If there was a problem, they should be first talking to management but they REEE'd out on twitter and it blew up in vshojo's face.

>>13796796
>>13796796
Worth noting that Nux didn't even make the full edits he was asked to make, and as a result included sensitive information that could have been used to harass individuals involved in the story

This isn't over until Vshit gets dissolved

>>13783191
>vshojo tainted their reputation

It's literally a company of western e-whores appropriating a popular japanese fad to milk simps, they were already bottom tier unless you're one of those delusional no-dignity simps.

>>13796805
I want them both to crash and burn, albeit vshojo a bit harder

>>13796885
>Nux didn't even make the full edits he was asked to make
>30mins to 3 hours
as soon as you get caught in a lie like this, its over. when gunrun silently changed his statement, it was over.

>>13779942
Kneel to your coyote replacement.

>>13795897
Once again proving Nyanners is the worst girl. Only now she can't claim to be 'just a dumb kid in over her head'.

>>13796885
Why did the former twitch security cyber "Expert" that managed to leak twitch data numerous times before lie and hide the Vshojo security breach when security breaches happened under him multiple times when he was working for twitch

>>13797001
I do at least like how she brought attention to the fact Nux is a faggot

>>13796998
This, she's seething because of superior pink animal and nuts

>>13797050
Your extremely loose grasp of english is showing in your thoughts and your words

>>13797155
Not a argument. Keep defending whorejo and maybe they'll touch your micropenis one day.

>>13797001
She still has her "I'm wamen" card to play.

>>13796969
But he didn't make all the changes and it's still n gunruns statement

El Gato Rosa es malo.

>video still down
>kike still MIA
>kike still blacklisted from collabing with every ENVtuber on the internet
>vshojo still winning
Yep, i'm thinking the Embodiment of the Internet isn't as powerful as his cocksleeves thought

>>13780130
There is a god

>>13797208
don't forget he purged his twitter

>>13797220
And he chose to smite the kike:
https://twitter.com/Velanar21/status/1465322967500398595

>>13796935
But alot of people still like them so they have a good reputation outside of 4channel

>>13797301
Does this retard not realize those posts are when she called him a clown, the tweet that is now deleted and contradicts her entire "apology". I bet he never even saw that tweet lol

>>13796858
More like Nyanners made that stupid rant on her discord instead of talking to management, thus forcing the other girls to either publicly support her or hang her out to dry.
Once again Nyanners ruins it for everyone.

>>13791107
are you retarded by chance anon?
If and that's a big IF that if Nux helped give an audience to or increase their current then it can only be Ironmouse's or Melody's. Only between those 3 are there a lot that share communities. After this whole shitshow it will be even less most likely that ppl will be in all 3 communities.

Nyanners and Veibaes communities are very different. Even among Vshojo girls' communities Vei's community is very different compared to the other girls' and even Nyanners'.

Atleast put out something believeable out of your ass retard.

>>13796969
LMAO, where's that leave Nux after his LARP investigation and arrest evaporated then?

>>13783191
>Vshoujo probably threatened legal action (and presumably extra legalaction such as making him a pariah on social media via the cabal's whisper network)
God, that would be unbelievably based. Unfortunatelly it's just the rrat of a schizo

>>13797197
Lying just like your owner

>>13797465
Don't bother, people in the Holobubble are convinced that all of the Vshojo girls and struggling 2views. If you're ever bored and looking for something to do here, it's fun to point out how pink cat and Ironmouse mog a lot of Myth numberswise

>>13797539
Vei too, all 3 of them regularly break into 10k viewers

>>13797539
The twitch leak confirmed they are. Let me guess, raw data from the website itself is a lie too?

>>13797271
how did he purge his twitter?

>>13797630
yes get the fuck back to plebit schizo

>>13797630
LMAO, what are you talking about? The twitch leak numbers were great for them. You can also go to sites like streamcharts and see how they've been doing since then. For instance, check out https://streamscharts.com/channels/nyanners

>>13797630
Are you retarded? Twitchtracker is a thing and it's public

>>13780130
Get fucking dabbed on ya dumb leeching ass skag vermin holes (I still respect them though for apologizing). Nux actually did it. He made Vshojo kneel. Based behavior.

how bad is her public melty gonna be when she comes back?

>>13780180
Stop posting your shitty screencap. This is horribly biased against VShojo.

>>13797503
>>13797170
>>13797050
>>13797197
>>13796657
how many (You)s did i hit, I'm trying to train my obsessed ESL schizoposter radar

>>13797761
Where's the video and where's nux lol

Only took me fucking two years of schizo pills and being in denial to actually see that 4chan was right all along.

>>13797819
wait this is (You) too isn't >>13795717
"platonic liar" is very cute but still please consider a more suitable outlet for your outbursts like perhaps your therapist or a forum for english learners

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa0tdecwz84

>>13797982
damn this is so cool! you should go back and then post it to r/thatreallyhappened

>>13798066
doesnt this prove nux right? now he can make as many scam sites and mock nux but at the end of the day, indies will not use unofficial lines of communication to apply for vshojo.

>>13798091
Lmao, dude, it's not that hard to just text a friend and get a funny opinion from them.

At least I didn't claim it was a girl, then I would understand your point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGTPboobncY

The only proper take

>>13797818
cope and seethe vshocuck

>>13779942
does she has a koikatsu card?

>>13798335
Just watched this video like 10 minutes ago. Hard agree, although I wish he went more into how manipulative these b-words are.

>>13780306
I dislike vei as well but post the full details you slimy cunt

>>13798049
are you ok dude?

>>13798706
no actually some malaysian teen keeps taking shits on my board because his country lacks adequate plumbing

So this has fucked her up enough that she hasn't streamed in two weeks. lol nice.

ENTER CHAD NUX
>Made Vwh***jo kneel
>Made Vshitjo apologize
>Pulled an uno reverse card on Vshojoshits
>Ruined Vvirgins reputation
>Hololive's concerns over blacklisting Vshojo have been validated
>Soon the entire Vtuber industry will follow suit and do the same
>Nux cummed, dabbed and T-posed over these dumb drama loving sesame street neon coloured muppets
>これはベースードですよ

>>13798669
>horrendously stubborn anons filtered by not knowing discord has timestamps
Many such cases!

>>13779942
>>13780130
so TL;DR
>Nux dogpiled, will be harassed by seething vwhore fans from now on
>vwhore slandering exposed, forced to naked dogeza
I see this as an absolute win. Fuck Nux and fuck VShojo.
It's almost worth all the spam their discordfags have subjected the board to this past week.

>>13799083
whoever loses, we win

>>13783704
lel, which one is this and where was it posted?

>>13799069
>letting minor details stop good rrats
you're taking this too seriously

>>13798828
This hasn't even been happening for a week.

>>13780843
this if you go on any site execpt like reddit you will get a deluge of like actual walls of text supporting nux nowadays that would make egirls with a fragile ego really want her to see all that and snap or some shit so we can some more of this funny pink cat shitstorm

>>13799824
>replying to yourself
>still drunk or terminally ESL after 7 hours
Is everything all right, friend?

>>13797170
haha btfo. i am legit confused that anyone is on vshitjw side at this point it must be some redditor that leaked over here everywhere else shits on that vpinkpuss

>>13799918>>13799918
legit retard these are my comments
>>13800076
>>13799824
maybe if you stop using reddit eventually your iq will become at least average again but we know you will stay there since nobody else coddles you like them.

I look forward to her public freak out.

Imagine not being able to confide in your own discord your frustrations without a sperg using what you said to twist your narrative 24/7

>>13800436
Unfortunately, her "own discord" leaked the messages, so maybe she should choose who to let in it better.

>>13796890
This is the only honest Nuxfag take.
But it’s not happening, so continue to seethe.

>>13800436
Imagine being so popular that even your haters pay subscriptions just to follow you

>>13800346
especially when they start shit with each other once they separate and get some new circles that will be fun since there is no way that nyanners will let this slide once her ego is slightly harmed

>>13800436
>posting this shit in a discord you can pay to get into

I am pretty sure 90% of pink cat haters are regular watchers of her streams and are actualy enjoying it

>>13800642
A good percentage of her audience is literally hate following and waiting for any little thing to pounce on.

>>13796138
mouse might be friends with pink cat but pink cat is definitely not friends with mouse

>>13797310
Which is why simps are scum and worthless.

I have not been reading any of these threads but I am glad you kids are having so much fun with this

>>13796250
That is a far too accurate description of Nux

>>13797113
But everyone already knew he was a faggot, he literally calls himself "Lord Nuxanor".

>>13800838
is pink cat even capable of friendship
i mean most members seem fiendish.

>>13800884
Thank you, pops!

SHE JUST POSTED THIS ON DISCORD

https://nyoron.moe/pics/ImZKjzTGHWkrvvMg.mp4

IT'S OVER

>>13799083
It was more about their management being retards than anything else

>>13798957
> chad pic
> omega cuck text
try harder anon

>>13800436
only a redditor would think that your discord should be a safe space or could be since they are so prone to doing janitor work for crumbs of pussy.
she probably has thousands in her discord unless you had a gigafaggot that banned for every bad post it is not possible to have expectations that a public ping will not go more public

>>13801027
Jesus, wtf is wrong with her?

Dont care if they lied, I just want Nux to burn to the ground

Here's my theory: Nyanners had it with people doxxing her for years, Arcadum got canceled while she was in his roleplay group and she did everything to stay silent. This time she couldn't anymore, all the anger built over the years got out and she treated Nux like she wanted to treat Arcadum. Soon she found that her community followed and lynched Nux together, making her and the other VSJ girls look like childish rulers who lost control. Now they are all crying in their rooms and asking, "WTF did I do?!" And there's probably no way to fix that unless they publicly apologize in a video with Nux, and that's too embarrassing to do.

What is ridiculous to me is that Vshojo made this all about them and their safety when this affected Nux and affects any indie vtuber as well.

>>13801027
let's put out this fire by pouring rocket fuel on it

>>13802181
She's never liked Nux.

>>13802312
But it's also not like her to bash someone publicly like that and gather all of her friends for a gangbang. This was done out of pure emotions.

>>13801027
Pretty sure I read the doujin on the left but I forgot what it was.

>>13802181
I agree with most of this, except that it's mostly fixed already. Everyone but the Nux brigadiers agrees that he's just as culpable (if not more so) for even creating this video and blowing off the cybersecurity team's recommendations in the first place. These apology tweets are just to get the schizos out of their mentions, so don't expect a video or anything like that

>>13802573
>it's also not like her to bash someone publicly like that
This is who she truly is beneath the facade

>>13779942
koyori cute

>>13802188
>What is ridiculous to me is that VShojo acted like typical entitled western internet women
yeah anon I'm shocked too

Will she stream today?

>>13797204
Basado

>>13803135
Her hand is under the table because she's masturbating

>>13803039
Pink feline bad
Pink canine good

>>13803135
she probably still mentally unstable after getting that apology

>>13796361
Exactly. Either way thy need to distance themselves from nuxtard and all male vtubers for that matter.

The resulting drama with relationships and "shipping" and all that bullshit is not worth it.

>>13796361
Same.
Based deadbrap.

>>13804091
Between this and Arcadum they really need to start being more careful about who they associate with.

>>13796361
Anon even now most of the youtube community is rallying around Nux. it's basically the closest we've come to a youtube vs twitch community war

>>13796361
Anon even now most of the youtube community is rallying around Nux. it's basically the closest we've come to a youtube vs twitch community war. They never had a chance to actually kill nux's carreer, and even if they did this is not the way to do it. If anything this probably bolstered Nux carreer because all publicity is good publicity and all that.

>>13804397
>all publicity is good publicity and all that.
In the short term, but people are now going to be more wary of interacting with him and that'll certainly hurt his career.

>>13797982
Sorry you got to see the truth so fucking late dude. You vshojobros deserve better. I've never liked your oshis but tried not to called them whores out of respect for you guys that are just trying to enjoy some chuubas like fucking everyone. It was sad to see so much denial and butthurt.

At what point is she a branding problem? Its not like you can search her name and not find pomf.

>>13804499
sure, if he was primarily a streamer. He's not. He's basically anime keemstar and this lack of collabs would barely be noticable to him.
Not to mention he already has a sizeable core fanbase who'd deepthroat his cock if he asked. He's not some indie 2view who needs to collab to get noticed, he's the kind of person that indie 2views beg to have a collab with in the hopes of breaking out of 2view hell.

>>13797220
>deadbeat
>defending ironic weeb eceleb Cock
it's like a natural instinct...

>>13779942

>lmao your parents are dead
based bird

>>13803858
Imagine the sex

>>13805155

>>13805155
They would produce a hybrid child that is both bad and good.

>>13804583
Nah, I mean I wasn't a hardcore VShoujo fag either way. I try not to bubble up in only one community like your typical Redditor, I watch a variety of VTubers from different groups, even indies. Although, I do admit I find myself watching Holos more often than not.

Thing is that I just couldn't get why tf Nyanners had such a bad rep on these parts and thought it was just "4chan seething" for the longest time. I did enjoy her content, character and her interactions with the other mems so I guess that's why I thought she was alright.

I'm not even a Nux fan, quite frankly, I don't have the patience to watch most of his vids since he tends to ramble a lot, but I can see the appeal and get why he has his fans. Nyanners really disappointed me by acting like this in general and so did some other Shoujos. Definitely going to be reconsidering who I'm a fan of and who I support now.

Thanks for the kind response either way, bro.

>>13797001
IronMouse used that excuse in her apology lol

>>13805559
>several years out of university
>"just a dumb kid"

Haha self-infantilization is a real trip

>>13805544
I mean, a lot of it is 4chan seething to be honest. Nyanners got doxxed, her channel stolen, anons pissing on her sister's grave, etc. before she ever made the statement about lolicons that caused people here to lose their minds. I agree that how she handled this situation was dumb as fuck, but overall there was nothing here that made me think she was scum of the earth who I couldn't countenance watching anymore

>>13805544
>VShoujo
We believe you

>>13805747
Also named the fake texts in >>13797982 VWhorejo.jpg. But he's totally a legit fan guys, please don't misunderstand.
See >>13798091 for best take

>>13805544
What the fuck did Nyanners even do wrong in all this? She's allowed to call Nux a faggot on her own discord server, that doesn't make her a whore. If anything that makes me like her a bit more because Nux IS a clickbaiting drama faggot. Vshojo the company dropped the ball and fucked up.

>>13805747
>>13805797
mad

>>13805544
>I wasn't a hardcore VShoujo fag either way
Yeah, we can see that. If you were a Vshojo fag at all you'd know how to spell their name.

>>13797539
>>13797586
Why are u people like this? No matter how much u try to lie it won't change the fact that Myth mogs vshojo in metrics

Take last 30 streams from each group

Vshojo: 46 streams exceeding 10k CCV

Myth: 74 streams exceeding 10k CCV
44 if we take out Gura

>>13805871
This is surprisingly close. Is Gura the one thing keeping Myth afloat?

>>13779942
nm

>>13805736
True. I'm not saying I've "converted to the 4chan side" or whatever, I think both she and us are fucking retards for the most part.

Thing is that I just won't be taking her seriously anymore after seeing her handle this as shittily as she did. I also agree with the sentiment that you don't get to just "handle it privately" after you've purposely involved BOTH communities in the drama and have caused dogpiling on both sides.

If I'm not taking her seriously anymore and if I'm gonna be expecting her to be like this from now on, what's the point of being a fan? At least that's how I see it.

Still, not to say she's to be hated as much as Hitler is or that she deserves ALL of the toxicity thrown at her.

>>13797982
oh you speak for 4chan oh cool

Silver is a fucking whore, so I doubt she’ll say anything.

>>13805991
Isn't Nyanners pretty much the only one who didn't purposefully involve both communities though? I only half heartedly followed this drama, but didn't she complain in her private discord instead of public twitter and that discord message got leaked?

>>13805797
Honestly, you're looking way too deeply into this. I just spend 3 seconds thinking of a funny name for the jpg and that's all I came up with. I'm not the fucking biggest fan out there, I just tune in somewhat often and watch clips.

>>13805747
I am retarded for spelling it like that, yeah. Been trying to learn Japanese way too autistically lately.

>>13780306
Kind of based for being straight up about being a bitch

>>13805871
I know reading is hard, but I said how pink cat and Ironmouse specifically mog a lot (i.e. not all) of Myth. I agree that a lot of Vshojos either cap out at 5k or never stream, but the heavy hitters of the group would be above-average Myth members just going off audience size.
Playboard, for instance, has Ame's average CCV for her last 15 streams as in the 6000s. Over the same period, Nyanners is in the 9000s.

>>13805922
Well numbers will go down for vshojo if we don't count the streams which got raided.

Otherwise pretty much yeah Gura floats Myth u can count in ina too, I would have counted ame but she is burnt out for past few months so her numbers are down.

oh wow vshojos is such whores because one of them said they knew about something beforehand but didnt actually.
look i know you fags will hate them regardless but come on, youre caught up on that singular lie that if were being honest wouldve been bad for nux even if they were honest and said they didnt know.
the reason nyanner when with the lie was likely a laps in judgement because of the state of mind nux's video put her in
>b-but the indies! they were in danger! why didnt they tell them they were in danger!
since when did you care about indies, on any other day most people here would pick on them or just not care about them.
the fact only one indie came out about how they didnt get support, and that was because she forgot to send a message.
this likely means anyone else affected is keeping quiet because theyre working with the security team or dont want to be in the spotlight with this drama but even with accusations at least a few people comes out about their experiences good or bad, so the lack of that is weird.

>>13805871
How do 46 or 74 of the last 30 streams exceed 10k ccv?

>>13805871
myth mogs the rest of holoen, whats your point? myth is basically in its own bracket because of how much of special case it is

>>13805922
Ame hasn't been streaming too much lately I think and Mori was always more popular with her music than actual streaming. Still though you have to keep in mind VShojo has more members than Myth does and Nyanners is essentially their Gura which still only puts them right above Myth only if you take Gura out of the equation.

>>13806328
>Well numbers will go down for vshojo if we don't count the streams which got raided.
Do you actually think this nothingburger Nux drama will significantly affect Vshojo's numbers? A week from now nobody will care about this and it's not even affecting their numbers right now. Zen got normal numbers yesterday, Froot is currently online with above average numbers after a Snuffy raid an hour ago and had normal Froot numbers before the raid.
Nyan and Vei have openly disliked Nux for a long time and spoken about that on stream, their communities have pretty much 0 overlap with Nux viewers. Vshojo numbers going down from this is wishful thinking.

>>13806407
I just assumed he meant last 30 days.

>>13806407
He took the last 30 streams of each individual member basically. All of Gura's streams are above 10k live views.

>>13805811
Calling nux a faggot or something similar would have been fine, maybe even would have been received positively because, you know, he is a gigantic fucking faggot. But she's been around long enough to know what posting >>13795717 does even in a 'private' discord

>>13805544
You're retarded if you think the girls did anything wrong. Nyanners complained to her discord believing that nux didn't agree to their takedown requests, which was what was communicated to her. All the other girls were told the same, that nux didn't comply with their requests(probably by melody) and they were pissed at nux constantly taking advantage of them so they went public.
It's 100% clear that the misunderstanding happened with Vshojo management communicating with the girls. I don't understand how anons are so dense to not understand what went wrong with whole situation.
Vshojo management fucked up big and they need to be held accountable; Cybersecurity guy with the nux conversation; Melody with the communication and GunRun with the constant deletes from the Medium article without acknowledging them(Edit/Note).

>>13806542
This is gonna hurt collab wise for both of them for a while. Fans will stick around but both VShojo and Nux will be looked at with wary eyes by anyone who doesn't want to associate with people that are so unprofessional. I don't expect a VShojo Hololive collab anytime soon for example now after this.

>>13806395
>that was because she forgot to send a message.
She did send the message but discord fucked it up? Anyone here uses discord to know if this is actually possible? Also, she did air out her frustration on twitter before the nux drama but it seems like vshojo ignored her.

>>13806738
Froot mentioned on stream today that she played a few games with the NijiENs off stream saturday. While that obviously wasn't an official collab the girls themselves are apparently not turned off by this drama.

>>13806738
Hololive is blacklisted by Vshojo so no worries there.

>>13806317
There are five members in Myth she looses to two of them

Ame: in her defence she is burnt out and haven't streamed properly ever since Myth's anniversary

Calli: I don't have any excuse here all I can say is that she is more of an artist than a streamer and currently no one in en vtubing scene comes close to her numbers (song numbers)

Kiara: well... It's just Kiara. But she does have better spornships than nyanners thou.

>>13806699
>Nyanners complained to her discord believing that nux didn't agree to their takedown requests
>takedown requests
Don't lie. She said vshojo didn't agree posting the video which is a lie. Nothing to do with taking down the video after uploading.

>>13806818
>Anyone here uses discord to know if this is actually possible?
Discord is terrible and I've had some technical problems with it too. I haven't seen it not send a message, but I've had lots of shit like discord refusing to send a .png and then suddenly being okay with it after I restart it.

>>13806869
She's also beating Ina by CCV, only one she loses to Gura.
I don't know how they stack up in memberships and such since comparing that stuff on Twitch vs Youtube is a nightmare, but my point was just that it's not a ridiculous comparison to make at all.

>>13806895
How hard is it to notice if your message didn't get send? Did discord made it super obvious or is this just a checkmark icon thing?

>>13806956
Like I said I haven't encountered text not getting sent but when it refused my images it literally refused them so it was obvious.

>>13806893
And Vshojo told him not to basically every way they possibly could anon, he just ignored them and did the deed anyways.
You can't tell him "don't make this" outright, bc then the story of the video becomes "Vshojo tries to silence HEROIC WHISTLEBLOWER!!!" There's no reason Nux has to listen to that request if they make it outright.
He also didn't implement many of their suggestions for where information should be withheld, which were pretty explicit

>>13806893
>She said vshojo didn't agree posting the video which is a lie
That's what I'm saying though. Is it a lie? yes
But the girls were told by management(most likely Melody) that they did indeed ask Nux to not post the video and he posted it anyway.

>>13806863
Veibei specifically didn't want to involve herself to my knowledge because she knows of the backlash of the shit she said about Hololive prior to joining VShojo. Ironmouse and Nyanners were perfectly fine though to collab (though probably not anymore now).

>>13806996
>You can't tell him "don't make this"
They can.

>>13806934
I believe they probably beat the holoens in twitch subs vs yt memberships because of twitch prime and the twitch culture around gifting subs to the community instead of direct donations. On the other hand that obviously means that they're getting a lot less direct donations than the holos get superchats.

>>13806821
At least the actual girls themselves are fine though even if it's up to Niji management if official collabs are still a go.

>>13806821
Half of the NijiEN girls have been involved in drama at some point as streamers and it's really a big fat nothing anyway in terms of vshojo's reputation. It's shitty management being shitty management and vshojo being involved in twitter drama which nobody will ever be that surprised about. And niji is pretty lax about this stuff anyway. I'd say collabs are just as likely now as they've ever been

>>13806956
It is super obvious, You message turns red. I don't know why that 2view was lying. She's just as retarded and did for it clout later on.

>>13806738
i mean not like hololive was collabing with many people outside of themselves to begin with.
but honestly i doubt holo management cares, this whole situation was clearly a failure on the management team of vshojo which arent the same type of management as holo or niji.
vshojo's just a collection of indies with a monetary backing, they arent the same thing as what hololive so blacklisting vshojo is just like blacklisting a group of people because theyre friends with one person they want to blacklisted.
>>13806895
>>13806956
it doesnt send messages if you lose connection while sending the message but usually itll show it failed to send with the messages text being red
>>13806893
wow she lied about knowing about something ahead of time when she really didnt, almost as if she made that claim while in a panic state of mind and wasnt thinking about what she was saying.
people tend to make retrospective claims when theyre panicking, its a lie yes but its one with an explanation, she probably doubled down because the rest of the girls when along with it so going against everyone wouldnt be the best idea.

>>13807038
No they can't anon, Nux was the target of an attempted phishing scam. Vshojo doesn't have a leg to stand on if they tell him that he's legally not allowed to make a video on that personal experience. They did tell him that making the video only gave the doxxers what they wanted and made their clients less safe, but he ignored both of those points.

>>13807038
>Vshojo tried to silence me from trying to protect vtubers
easy fucking Money for Nux, they can't

>>13806699
Look, it's not like I can completely deny the points you make. I just think the talents handled this situation poorly and made too big of a stink out of it. I'm also still waiting to see what Mel has to say about being in the Discord DMs/call where Nux clearly (or allegedly) conveyed that he was going to upload the video and even showed them a preview.

I'm not trying to organize an uprising against any of the girls, nor am I saying that Nux is completely innocent here either. Go on enjoying the talents' content, just don't act like I'm trying to force you to suck Nux' cock, cause I don't even like the guy and his content that much, as I mentioned.

Also, even then, fact of the matter is Nyan's story didn't add up and was clearly misinformation. Whether it's actually fucking lies, though, I'm not really confident to make a stance on.

>>13807038
And yeah, they definitely can. They're a business which owns IPs, aren't they? Cease and desists are very much an option.

>>13807010
>(though probably not anymore now)
Considering that their collabs went mostly fine I don't necessarily think this is the case. Ironmouse could maybe get a second collab if she tried.

>>13807079
>>13807048
>text turns red
I just googled it and looks like it also informs you with a message
>Failed to send message.
Why the fuck did the 2view fucking lie? Fucking hell.

>>13807111
I hope so I like Ironmouse the most out of all of them.

>>13807157
They're a 2view
They really want that third viewer

>>13807157
>Why the fuck did the 2view fucking lie?
They told her why the vshojo CEO is called The "gun" "run".

>>13807157
anon, it does that for images not text, ive sent things before and they fail to send because my internet dies, it doesnt try resending the message once you connect again, you have to do it manually and if you sent the dm but then moved to a different server or chat its easy to forget to check if it sent

>>13807090
>>13807085
You fucks are idiots. First you say that nux needs vshojo to survive, but now you think that nux will throw away his connection with vshojo just to post 1 video? This is crazy when they can literally just beg with
>we don't want you to post the video. pretty please. we beg of you.

>>13807240
If I was a scared 2view I'd probably check that chat every day while waiting for an answer though

>>13807010
Care to spoonfeed me what Vei said about them before?

>>13807240
I found this on google.

>>13807282
I don't know about the other anon, but I never said that he needed Vshojo to survive. Half the girls have basically blacklisted him for previous bullshit anyways, and he has 2.18 mil subscribers. Dude could make a video no matter what the corpo told him and could probably stir up a lot more drama and revenue with a more confrontational response from management

>>13807339
>>13807240
And also a couple more. All of it seems to be text messages.

>>13796138
Nah, it would just go fine. Vshojew claims zero responsibility for the whores, and they swept everything under the rug. Probably because they don't want to jeopardize that idol event that Nyanners is in.

So who was the other person who got doxxed?

have they come forward?

>>13806934
Now I'm curious what's her November's avg median?

>>13807282
its easy to say that but businesses are businesses and nux is retarded
>>13807316
basically she called out how holo having control over the chuubas identities was fucked, likely thinking about how machinama fucked over its partnered creators but instead of the creator getting out of the partnership and still keeping their following and identity, they lose their following and identity and have to start from 0 which is technically something cover could do if they were really evil.
she also talked out her ass about talking to a former hololiver about it but at that time only chris was a former one and holoen wasnt a thing.
>>13807406
yes that was i said anon, red text. and the second part of what i said applies, if she changed chats after sending it its likely she forgot to check it and expected them to get back to her

>>13807418
Wait. I'm confused now. Is Saki part of the two they said got doxxed? Is this timeline correct?
>doxx website up
>manage to get 2 victims
>vshojo contact victims (one of which is supposed to be saki?)
>saki got doxxed while not knowing about the phishing site stuff
>saki cannot contact vshojo/ignored by vshojo
>only know after nux tell them (because nux almost became a victim)
>somehow the victims is still 2
Isn't it supposed to be 3 including saki?

>>13807532
Nyanners? 9280 average viewers for november 2021.

>>13807591
I think Saki is supposed to be one of the 2 victims, but I don't know.

>>13807650
But they said they already contacted 2 of the victims when they took down the doxx site? Wouldn't they know about saki before nux telling them?

>>13807552
If she didn't have that chat screen as her active window until she started wondering about them not getting back to her and read the red text she is clearly lying.

>>13807591
No, the two victims are Nux and Saki. Vshojo didn't know about the site at the time Saki was doxxed, since they learned about it from her and Nux's experiences. She thought she had sent Vshojo requests for more support after the swatting, but her messages didn't send.

>>13807710
I don't know, that timeline doesn't make sense to me. Obviously you take down the fake site as quickly as you can but at that point you don't really know who the victims are yet, right? How would you know? I would guess they only identified the victims after they managed to take down the site.

>>13807109
>Nyan's story didn't add up and was clearly misinformation. Whether it's actually fucking lies, though, I'm not really confident to make a stance on
I don't believe she lied.
Anon look, this year Nyan was doxed at the end of March and again in May, spammed in her chat and to everyone in her Discord server. There were multiple harassments calls/messages to her and her family(I know because I've seen them, a lot them about her father's recent death)
They have been working on this group for a while and when Nux put out the Video, she had a breakdown as it puts her in the spotlight again and a target to another dox. What was she supposed to do?
It was communicated to her that nux didn't comply with their requests about the video and some of the girls reached out to him to remove the video. I don't know if she intended this to blow up to make him delete the video or if she was just venting out. But she had no chance in that situation.
I know this board loathes her and believes she's a lying cunt but I just don't like to see unjustified hate towards her. I'm a simp but I know the hate is not completely unwarranted either, she's made some stupid mistakes but everyone treats her like she's some kind of manipulative monster. We're all human

Guys, can we get a drawfag to illustrate the Batman/Joker/Sans Undertale combo? I wanna make a vtuber model

>>13807801
Per their first statement, they got the list of people who were contacted by the vshojo.org email by working with network service providers and law enforcement.

>>13780306

Jlatcftftim
QRD?
>Read thread
No I don't care that much

>>13807408
>jeopardize
Thinks that anyone cares about nux episode outside of /vt/ and incel Twitter

>>13807892
This is getting even more confusing. Someone must be lying.
>vshojo said they know who got doxxed by law enforcement
>vshojo also said they already contacted everyone affected
>but that statement is before saki said that she was never contacted and when she tried to contact herself, discord somehow didn't send her message and she didn't notice the glowing red text or the "Failed to send message" error
>the victims are 2 even when nux clearly didn't fall for it
Please explain guys.

>>13807282
>First you say that nux needs vshojo to survive
Nobody said that.
>but now you think that nux will throw away his connection with vshojo just to post 1 video
If it brings him enough views and he can milk more videos. Maybe

>we don't want you to post the video. pretty please. we beg of you.
They cannot outright say that because Nux is also a victim. Like Nyan said he should've done the video warning people about things like the fake VShojo email situation, without going more into the how he tried to catch the doxxer, and released it once the situation was settled

>>13807837
I'm not an ultra simp or on her discord or something, but I don't hate her and do watch her streams. I remember the bots spamming her doxx info in her chat during one stream earlier this year. The follows from those bots (so they'll be able to chat) are also visible in her follower timeline on twitchtracker, so there's evidence that it happened. I believe your take is a pretty reasonable explanation, but schizos probably won't accept it.

>>13808121
>They cannot outright say that because Nux is also a victim.
They certainly can do if their response to him posting it is to shit all over him.

>>13808129
Anon... nyanners was a normal streamer before becoming a vtuber. Those are bkt doxx.

>>13808107
Nyanners and friends are lying, it isn't complicated.

Nyanners isn't a vtuber

>>13808261
Is that Nyanners?

>>13805559
To be fair she's special case, and dying which gives her some slack

So Brazil won?

>>13799223
nyanners, external website, and she knows her crowd, she's just teaching 4chan spergs how to conceal their power level among normies. having played mmos with 4chan, there's people that get really upset they can't say their gamer words

>>13805871
How are the numbers when you take into account youtube cutting their CCV in half?

as in, we won't blacklist in exchange that everyone just stfu

>>13807592
Dude that's even less than irys's for this month forget about ina

>>13807979
Wowww wtf why would she say this, does she not care? She's always shitting on her fans, menhera graduating soon dead on arrival

Stupid company shill do what faggot shill companies do fuck VShojo

>>13808384
None of that is real retard

>>13807837
I get you, don't worry. I mentioned this already, but no, I don't think she's subhuman scum or whatever and I'm not saying she is just looking for a way to cancel someone for the fun of it.

Just can't really trick myself into taking VShojo's side on all this and Nyanners seems to be the one leading whatever operation they have (or had) going on and I'm disappointed in her.

By all means, simp away. I'm a fucking hentai addict, why should I tell you how to treat your oshi. I don't think her career is gonna flatline anytime soon, because she does have her dedicated fanbase, no matter how much hate she gets.

>>13808895
kek, what's with everyone thinking Nyanners is the leader. Even on twitter nuxbros keep posting that she is the manager, it's hilarious. Wasn't she one of the last ones that joined vshojo?

>>13809026
Several people are saying she's the co-founder, where are they getting this info from?

My bro Nux is suffering... Can we get a gofundme for him.

>>13809026
I think you got me wrong or I didn't word it properly. I don't think Nyanners is the big boss of VShojo, I just meant that she was the one initiating all of this shit that's happening right now. At least from what I got.

>>13809156
Damn bro. Can we get F in the chats for our boy Nux?

>>13805736
If people are still unironically seething about the lolicon thing then they have no hope. However, it says a lot about a person when you can build your brand off the backs of your fans and then unashamedly tell them you hate them. I'd not be caught dead blindly defending Nux, but Nyan is extremely hard to trust. I was starting to come around a little bit because she hadn't stuck her foot in her mouth for about a year, but I think this situation has sealed it for me and I'm not going to give her another chance.
It's a shame that so many of them decided to jump the gun and dogpile on Nux. Not because I give a shit about him, but because I expected better from some of them. Melody especially is extremely disheartening for me.

>>13809156
you haven't seen twitter. They think he's some messiah and he's been crucified. Sasuga dramafags

>>13809156
>suffering
>from an interaction with some whores
dumbass should've known that women can't be your friends, especially online.

>>13809426
don't you dare insult lord nux like that you fag

>>13809419
>fans and then unashamedly tell them you hate them
she clarified multiple times that it was directed towards lolicons and pedos who groomed her, not all her fans.

>It's a shame that so many of them decided to jump the gun and dogpile on Nux
read >>13806699 >>13807837

>>13809561
Nice cope, and how do you groom a 19yr old anyway?

>>13808107
Saki said she was contacted but never followed up with, and Nux was counted as a victim/target even though he never bit on the bait.

Froot has 5k viewers compared to her usual 3k. Nuxfags really thought they made a difference.

>>13809897
>it's because it's a collab with RPR
Wonder how long it will be until they decide to cancel him.

>>13809026
This is dumb. The only one of the girls that there is any evidence of being anything but talent at the agency is Melody. Since both Nyan and Mouse have said in the past that she invited them.

>>13809591
didn't she start out at like 14

>>13810002
>it's because it's a collab with RPR
huh? she's playing Minecraft solo

>>13809591
she was 13-15 at the time. Also give me a 19yr old, I'll groom and show you

>>13810124
She was 20 at the time of the vidya gaem awards, which was a year after pomf =3

>>13809436
True but you have to realize that streamers and vtubers specially have to sell the idea that they are your friends/girlfriend to their audience. They need to make their sad sad simps feel like they have an intimate relationship with the viewers.

This is the principle that western vtubers simply do not understand, you are not selling yourself and your personality, you are selling a character. And you must make sure your character's reputation is not tainted by your IRL ego and social conduct, this is something vtubers like Gura know and act upon. You don't mix "work" with your personal life, Vshojos don't make characters, they are e-girls with anime avatars a la pokimane.

>>13810078
He is playing with her, they're just not on voice..

>>13809561
>she clarified multiple times that it was directed towards lolicons and pedos who groomed her, not all her fans
Nobody 'groomed' her. She released and did the things she wanted to do to get attention and become popular. Please don't fall into the trap of believing that grooming is anything less than an individual building up a trusting relationship with a child in an effort to sexually exploit them. Nyanners situation was nothing like actual grooming and I always thought it was a scummy move for her to invoke it. Damn now I'm remembering why I wrote her off. I should've known better to be fair.
Also, to address the other part of your post, this just tells me they didn't take any time whatsoever to confirm the facts before posting their responses. I'm on an anonymous image board and I still never posted anything until actual proof began to come out. I expected better from them.
>>13810061
No. I'm sure I'll get banned if I post her real age but I can say, for instance, that when she posted pomf she was an adult.

>>13810200
>>13810124

>Uploaded by Nyanners on Feb 21, 2012
She was 17

>>13780130
qrd?

>>13810449
The vga's were 2011. She was explicitly an adult at the time, and had to be to take part.

>>13810449
Bro can you math right? She was born in 93 which would make her 18 because her birthday hadn't come around yet.

>>13810376
iirc it was the group of people that she was hanging out. I'm not saying it's entirely not her fault, but from what I remembered she got pissed when anons started associating the song with an actual cp video and making it a loli anthem. And then anons threatened her with showing it to her family. I don't really blame her, I'd probably do the same thing if I was her.

She was an adult when she posted most of her famous vids, but she was /here/ as early as 14-15 looking for anime wallpapers (lmao). I think it's a case of someone coming here at a young age and being very influenced by the board's culture, what is inarguable is that people started to do all sorts of fucked up shit to her when she didn't do what they wanted (taking over her youtube channel, posting her parent's personal info, etc). Just a very sad situation, and I don't blame her for being bitter or reacting aggressively when it comes up again

>>13780306
What a fucking bitch... I think I kinda like her now

>>13810798
Yeah, I don't know why this board doesn't understand that no matter how many times this is brought up.
She got doxxed, harassed multiple times. Anons peed on her sister's grave and sent the video to her family. Got harassed when her father died. Doxxed couple of times again this year. Nobody deserves that

>>13811075
Easy answer? Most of the antis on here today are newfags who weren't around at the time, and the oldfags who are here and still obsessed with Nyanners think she deserved all of that for supporting Gamerghazi and saying mean things about lolicon on tumblr. No self-awareness that she did that AFTER much of this abuse, so in many ways they pushed her into the arms of the left

>>13810878
I want Vei to fucking manipulate and mentally break me in her basement like the absolute cunt whore that she is

>>13810794
Man it is definitely a loli anthem because she is singing the song from a perspective of a loli getting it. What do you expect to happen? At what point can she be held accountable if she gets mad when people start using her loli song as the loli anthem? I understand the cp video if that's even true, because I don't remember that being a thingbut that had to be a small and insignificant amount of individuals. It's when she got doxxed by some faggots that she started having issues, but again that also had to be be a tiny and insignificant amount of people dedicated to fucking with her, not her actual fans.
All I'm saying is that even if she was given trouble by some epic 4chan hackers there is really no reason to maliciously burn your previous fandom to the ground. Why wouldn't these terrible people go ahead and do it anyway no matter what her stance is? Frankly the more I discuss this with you guys the more I don't buy into that narrative.

>>13811321
>they made her do this
Who? The few terrible people that noticed her? She still got her dox shoved in her face again this past year even though she has ostensibly been unaffiliated with the chans for years. It's like being famous has really bad drawbacks and attracts schizos that will hate you for no reason.

>>13811450
Again, I don't have the screenshots but I remember her saying that she was talking about the lolicons using at as loli anthem, not all her fans. You have no reason to believe her just as much as you don't

>>13810464
>>13780180

>>13811985
Her tumbler posts at the very least weren't referring to only lolicons but to the whole "anime fans as a whole facilitate loli culture which is the same as pedophilia".
Also there is this >>13802546 shit from when she double and tripled down on her wokenes. Which is very funny seeing who her previous audience was.

>>13779942
man i think nyanners used to be one of us from what you guys have said.
it is a fact that she hated nux and used this to jump on him probably.
been looking for a way to get him out their path for a while it seems.
but this is just retarded and completely backfired on her professionally.
this is a lack of professionalism on the talents part and on management side.
everything could have stopped at NO.
but instead they went at him cause they did not like him rather than just having balls to kick him out without any of this shit.
bad planning on nyanners part and shows a side that turns me away really.

nux is a clout clapper but vshojo is full of stupid nonsense as well.
this will hurt them for a few months maybe even make some good talents that otherwise would have joined never apply to their company.

>>13805544
Got your back man.
It really is /vt/ seething for the most part, but then again, there are times in which you find solid arguments that can provide you the chance to tie some knots so to speak; something to think about. After all, not everyone here is an anti or a schizo faggot. The real problem for me is how she contradicts herself to appeal to twittertards; something that's not wise when you are so fucking stressed by reasons like doxxing. Girl's not trash or anything, nor is untouchable, she handled this situation poorly and made a really poor impresion, while veibae had every intention to make herself look like a bitch. At this rate, pink cat could most likely consider graduation.

Once again, i've never felt like calling the vshojo pack whores because i'm not some kind of retard that shits on other people tastes even if he doesn't share them or plain dislike the vtuber, but while i can se Nyan as someone who has lost credibility because of her freaking out BUT can be simpathized with for a shit ton of reasons, Vei ticked me off in many fucking ways this time. Every man to his own taste, i can't bring myself to like her.
>>13809156
No one can deny that Nux got what was coming for him for thinking he can get away with everything. Guy is a complete, legitimate retarded faggot. This was going to happen anytime soon.
>also
Sincere respect to you all vshojofags, as you are defending your chuubas coherently instead of being yesmen, only a retarded schizo would continue the shitstorm without at least try to read you. Shame that your girls are involved in so much drama.

>>13813017
They don't get "managed" you fucking seanigger

>>13813017
read >>13806699

>>13813723
>>13813808

Nothing better than retards fucking themselves over. Goddam vwhores are dumb, not nearly aa retarded as nux,n but they are braindead.
The only ones who own anything were the people who wanted drama, both nux and vshoujo got fucking burned.

>>13780306
Just a prank bro.