/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

Hololive Over 100k Concurrent Peak Live Views (Holostats)

** Top 10 **

07/01/2021 491,342 Coco Graduation
05/07/2021 194,140 Gura Costume reveal
11/28/2021 180,499 Koyomi debut (NEW)
11/29/2021 176,697 Chloe debut (NEW)
11/26/2021 167,584 La+ debut (NEW)
11/27/2021 149,755 Lui debut (NEW)
10/21/2020 145,305 Miko 3D Return
10/21/2020 140,116 Noel Costume reveal
07/03/2021 139,393 Marine 1M Gen3 3DLive
10/18/2020 137,900 Marine Costume reveal

** The Rest **

07/29/2021 136,068 Marine 2nd Costume reveal
05/03/2021 135,527 Mori Costume reveal
12/13/2020 129,528 Pekora Pekomama debut
05/27/2021 126,480 Subaru Costume reveal
07/30/2021 124,596 Marine Birthday LIVE
12/31/2020 123,926 Hololive New Year's Eve
11/13/2020 119,493 Gura 2nd Karaoke
08/14/2020 113,092 Botan Hololive debut
01/31/2021 111,367 Nene Costume reveal
11/08/2020 109,860 Rushia Gen3 Smashbros
05/02/2021 109,792 Ayame Costume reveal
07/05/2020 109,528 Kanata 3D debut
06/27/2020 108,689 Coco 3D debut
07/18/2021 108,004 Rushia 2nd anniversary
06/23/2021 107,020 Coco Costume reveal
07/12/2020 105,716 Watame 3D debut
08/12/2020 103,408 Lamy Hololive debut
10/04/2020 101,868 Noel Outfit reveal
05/07/2021 101,843 Amelia Costume reveal
11/15/2020 101,171 Shion Costume reveal
05/09/2021 100,436 Aqua 2nd 3DLive

** Non-streams **
09/30/2021 118,000+ Coco pre-chat

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - NOVEMBER 2021

1) Marine (Hololive) - 34.7k - Karaoke
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 42.5 - Minecraft (Sport fest prep)
3) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 48.9k - Announcement
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 36.4k - Rhythm Heaven
5) Luis Cammy (Nijisanji) - 39.4k - 3D Debut
6) Miko (Hololive) - 81.5k - Minecraft Sports Fest
7) Miko (Hololive) - 69.7k - Sport Fest Totsu
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.6k - Evil God korone
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 44k - Evil God Korone
10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 56k - Kuzuha Concert Free Part
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 55k - First FFXIV stream
12) Fumi (Nijisanji) - 38k - 3D Debut
13) Rushia (Hololive) - 81k - Outfit reveal
14) Marine (Hololive) - 81.8k - Subaru's High profile case
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 83.3k - Birthday 3D
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 31.8k - Ape Escape 3
17) Marine (Hololive) - 34k - Bus Simulator
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 82.5k - Minecraft Mod with Marine
19) Towa (Hololive) - 47.5k - Mario Party
20) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 95k - Splatoon Tpurney day 1
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 88.2k - Splatoon Tourney day 2
22) Subaru (Hololive) - 31.5k - Pokemon Challenge (vs Okayu)
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.7k - Karaoke Relay
24) Noel (Hololive) - 56.9k - Birthday Totsu
25) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 58.6k - Gen 3 Concert Free Part

New debuts:
26) La+ Darknesss - 167.6k
27) Takane Lui - 149.8k
28) Hakui Koyori - 180.5k
29) Sakamata Chloe - 176.7k
30) Kazama Iroha

Old one is still on page 9 retard kys

>>13790725
>11/28/2021 180,499 Koyomi debut (NEW)
>11/29/2021 176,697 Chloe debut (NEW)
>11/26/2021 167,584 La+ debut (NEW)
>11/27/2021 149,755 Lui debut (NEW)

168,633 average

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTuDC4fgE9M

Well, Aqua decided to play games ... I guess ...

1 (ONE) more day of Nijiseethe and Anykaramalding

the culling continues

To be honest, gen 6 and council are all safe choices. They are all anime girl voice. There are no one like Coco, Marine or even Gura. People will get bored really fast like what they does to council.

>>13791158
>what they does
Go back to global

Is HoloEN going to be okay?

>>13791279
Myth and Kronii will be

>>13790985
>Anykaramalding
kek, I now know what the next “GIVE ME A” scuffed spelling bait will be

EN1 mogged JP5
JP6 mogged EN2
It's the circle of life

>>13791411
>EN2
Not a high bar of line up desu

>>13791279
They're gonna be okay but no at the level of jp.

>>13791411
jp5 mogged themselves tho

>>13791279
They have been stagnant for a whole year and this vtuber fad aint gonna wait for them to improve and be more entertaining

>>13790672
>FBK keeps bringing big numbers
Why are numberstards always wrong?

>K-KING… ;-(
Now, people were selling Fubuki really short, went they?
Seems like she was training in that 100x gravity chamber the whole time and now she came out for a stroll

>>13791279
Is 10 times smaller nijiEN gonna be okey?

Tick tock EN2 the clock is ticking

>>13791816
Come on Jun!

>>13791816
Jun-kun...

>>13791816
no no no not like this junkunbros....

>vrabi already buckling
I’ll add this one in the “well intentioned bloke without the required tech know how to make this work on the cheap”.

I’ll soon manage to muster the strength to actually do it. New deadline: Jan 1st, 2022.
Here is a tip if the vrabi bro is around
>the entire site can be static
Just pre render all available endpoints server side and serve static .html files instead of dynamically rendering it every page view.

Set a schedule task that render all pages server side at a fixed interval (let’s say, every minute), set the header for cache on the same interval and refresh the data via XHR if the user doesn’t refresh the page.

Given that there aren’t that many pages to be rendered and that the CCV collection interval is at a set rate (likely every 30 seconds or so) you’ll save a lot of dynamic calls doing that.
Also: for pages where the result won’t change (like pages where every result won’t change, like daily tops of the last) you can just set the cache to infinity and never render it again.

Sora talked about the sub issues. I think Cover will at least talk to Susan about it. I wonder if unsub and sub will refresh the timer.
https://holo.poi.cat/youtube-channel
also, very unusual that almost everyone has gotten 0 sub for the past day

>>13791750
This. They should've debuted council 8 month ago and should've had a third gen ready 2 month ago.

>>13793003
the fuck?

>>13792995
I don't that's right, Laplus just debuted and they're already tanking her subs. https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1465138296720269314

>>13790825
way too late to get buffed from this meme game, also very strong competition right now

>>13791279
compared to twitch streamers they are doing ok
https://twitchtracker.com/channels/viewership/english/personality
they could be doing better but you also need to consider that vtuber's aren't as maintstream in the west as they are in japan

>>13793003
Why did you bother editing Mel's channel name onto an Ayamy stream? We all know she's a 2view.

>>13793054
That should be Ayamy's channel, not sure why it's showing Mel on that anon's screen.

>>13791279
HoloEN is gonna be fine. Honestly I liked when they were just a single gen, less dilution, more focus and the girls actually could get to know each other instead of ripping themselves into chunks to collab with a new gen.

twitter space at 18.5k now

>>13793025
People keep saying hololive en are declining but what female streamers outside of hololive are beating them.

>>13793003
Nice inspect element
>implying Mel can draw

>>13791279
If they have their 3d delayed another whole year it is certainly gonna cripple their numbers.

https://twitter.com/sugitaLOV/status/1465309560374104066
I remember anon talked about Sugita the other day

What vtubers do you suspect are actually numbersfags but are just really good at hiding it?

>>13793163
Those are two different things. They are reclining and they are still ahead of the whole EN field. Nothing contradictory about that.

>>13792995
She probably talks about usual culling. I mean there is a reason that Kaguya Luna is under 1M.
What happened to Holox and Council probably a different thing

>>13791927
They are probably gonna lose like 100k today

>>13793133
It's just the thumbnail, because she's painting Mel.

>>13793163
It's just nijiniggers sperging.

>>13793206
Who and why?

>>13793074
who knows. all I know is that Cover will definitely look into this issue now that fucking Sora raised concern about it

>>13793074
Sora's problem and HoloX's and Council's problems are different, but she isn't aware.

>>13792943
Lay off the beer for one week, anon. You can finish it.

>>13793277
famous seiyuu

>>13792995
>Makes Daisenpai aware of numberfagging
NumberX is too powaafull!

>>13790825

She even made a schedule for this week. Probably the first one in like years

https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1465137484963086338/photo/1

>>13792995
She is right that susan periodically culls inactive subs, but i don't think not commenting is the cause. What's happening to holoX is something different tho.

>>13790725
>Koyomi
koyoRi

>>13793206
kek I remember one anon saying he was a Niji fan now

<HONORARY HOLO?
>HONORARY HOLO!

>>13793206
Reminds me of that one anon that kept saying he was a huge nijifag and didn’t like Hololive.

>>13793163
looking through >>13793120 there's only about 3-4 who have better avg CCV than myth as a group. individually, gura seems to be equal to pokimane who is the highest.
although this is just me looking at profile pics since i don't think you can sort by gender.

>>13793259
No, the anon edited the channel icon that normally displays to have it show as Mel instead of Ayamy. Some other anons have called them out on it already, unless it was a bug on their end.

>>13793374
The reason started watch vtuber was literally pekora and he's been collab witb FBKing and Marine

>>13793370
her utawakus are good and strange, though they are not Susei levels

Migo's twitter space just passed 19k

>>13793206
>>13793316
Contrary to popular belief, popular male streamers/seiyuus/idols would want to collab with a Holo but the idol tag is too strong. It's also working too, because it brands Holos as not cheap and are very high spec. Kuzuha, Kanae and Fuwa relies on outside help but it didn't work out for them. Kanae is still stuck at 10-15k and Kuzuha's lowest cap is 10-12k.

>>13793120
Is twitch reclining?

>Just woke up from my nap
I TOLD you guys he was back! Other than the newly debuted girls I TOLD you he would get at least a medal today
>you didn’t believe
APOLOGIZE!
(Also kneel to the still King!)

>>13793469
They will stream something about this tomorrow right?

>>13793374
nijifags and telling lies, name a more iconic duo

>>13793521
yes

>>13793469
What’s she talking about?

Oh, well uh, Fubuki just said they have a streaming permission time limit to this game? Doesn't that contradict what Mori said? What is up with the permissions with these games...

Flare : Heck, our streaming permission time limit might be up before you can even finish Des P. / デスパン (06:27 AM)
FBK : I do wanna try to finish the game while we can still stream it

15k get for Toko's Utau.

On a side note, realized me (and a lot of other people) basically treat Toko like a Holo at this point.
Same group as Aqua, Suisei or Ayame, who do out of stream works then come back with an Utau or Zatsu. That she only has Suisei and Sanbaka as collab partners probably doesn't help.
Her audience is international too, has the same mix of Yen, $, CA$, NT and HK donations.

>>13793278
Cover's been aware of it since gen5, youtube just hates anime so they'll never turn their sub culling bot to any setting below kill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N029UUlH1Dc
Suiseis phony hit 1M in 3 days and 5 hours. This should be the fastest Suisei's cover to 1M.

>>13793475
Yuuki Ono has a radio show with Roberu and he's a pretty big fan of Hololive
https://youtu.be/LV8mIgNMubI
https://youtu.be/rApS9O1aYW4

>>13793506
uhh, who's gonna tell this fag?

>>13793475
I mean, you have ono become a vtuber cause of iofi and roberu's influence, and some big name seiyuu like sugita has appear in FubuMarine radio

>YT unsubbing people due to some shitty coding
>la+ already has 400k twitter followers
why would you not use it to retain the subs you deserve?
who are the retards here who think JP6 should make the same mistake as council and keep the culling secret & not talk about it too much?
this is smart. once it stabilizes, the culling stops but user engagement will also go down. there's no point in keeping silent when susan is fucking up your subs.

I dont care how it looks, if I was a manager, I would advise my talents to cry about it on twitter so YT fucking up wont shave the normies away and give a reminder for them to resub

>>13793553
it probably changed, Mori did say that they are subject to change

>>13793547
Her, Mio, and Subaru are on vacation at an onsen. They are just fucking around and acting like dorks.

>>13793506
>deleted

>>13793506
UH, how do I delete?

Suisei Phony 1M- 3days 5hours 30minutes
https://youtu.be/N029UUlH1Dc

>>13793506
Anon-kun... wash your face with cold water to fully awake

>>13793570
nice, that probably goes into that top 10 fastest to 1mil list

>>13793506
LOOK AT THIS MAN
LOOK AT HIM AND LAIUGH

>>13793370
>>13793554
Lol, same mind.

>>13793623
So fast, even faster than Getcha

>>13793610
why is my duck constantly being groomed by lesbians

someone please save her

>>13793610
>pomu's mama is listening in too
What are the chances all of NijiEN's mamas are holofags?

>>13793607
Fucking goddamnit Pokemon company, why are you so bloody annoying about these things?!

>>13793652
#11 and will be dethroned by Lui's and Koyori's cover.

>>13793532
>kek
This will never gets old

Just hide his replies. I don't why he is trying to start shit

>>13793554
I don't watch her but I have this impression of her that she isn't very "Nijisanji-y," kinda like Lize.

>>13793570
Anon, are you monitoring Tenkyuu to 10M too?

>>13793691
Weirdest thing to me is how a few artists don’t want their name attached to a Niji model.

Speaking of songs, King surpassed Reflect.

>>13791411
Gen 5 was handicapped too much from aloe grad and another gen debuting after them in just a month. They didnt have an organic honeymoon

>>13793698
On the other hand, their old sword and shield videos are back up, so maybe something is being worked on in the background.
Hopefully that's teh case.

>>13793623
>Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2 Days (14h 51m)
Goes to show how hard work and devotion to the trade helps Ayame to remain unbeaten even in the face of a formidable opponent

>>13793719
*I don't get why he is trying to start shit

>>13793727
>9,996,407
Fuck

also, can anyone tell me why the JP branch has been inclining, even before the debuts they were inclining and now they've skyrocketed as a whole.
what are they doing right?

>>13793698
>>13793553
my bet is that theyll only last upto they do the niconico sponsored tourneys.

>>13793554
Toko, Uiha, and Lulu (formerly) are very hololite desu

>>13793743
that non-vtuber music fanbase is helping a lot here for mori.

>>13790672
>orca uses voice changer
They're babiniku, or a troon at best, just like the other Chloe (Chloe Ch), oh the irony

>>13793506
>failing this hard
haha

oh wow

>>13793774
it might just be my EOP view but aside from jun and nijisanji what other big players are there in the JP streaming

>>13793570
>wtf!?
I just listen to it like 5songs ago and it was around 980k-ish. Damn suisei

>>13793681
blame Luna

>>13793206
It's been a while since he was mentioned, but Sugita's a pretty big Hololive weeb.
He was even a guest on the Fubu-Marine radio show

>>13793736
That’s really bizarre. Becoming a Holo mama or papa is like being a top gacha artist or anime concept design artist: super well paid and prestigious. Nacho and Nabi jump started their own vtuber careers based on it. Fubuki’s mama threw a mountain of SC at her daughter since she (correctly) viewed it as a career defining move. See also Kakage’s reaction. Why wouldn’t they want that in their portfolio?

>>13793796
>Lulu
back on /jp/, the niji thread didn't like Lulu since she has a lot of EOPs. that's why /hlg/ considered her an honorary holo since niji wouldn't appreciate her.

>>13793805
She doesn't. She can switch high pitched moe voice to deep sexy voice just like Suisei.

>>13793159
Who?

>>13793892
Ui's vtubing career wouldn't have happened if it weren't for Subaru. Subaru asked Ui to join her. I think the artists you mentioned are following the Ui model

>>13793736
most nijis don't have that "bond" of "son/daughter" that holos have

>>13793774
HoloEN and holoID collabs

>>13793774
Marine's return helped a lot, she's a titan for holo

>>13793554
>Toko's ending the stream
>5k left
>Fubuki got 1k for a bit
lol.

>>13793897
I remember posting Lulu on the /jp/ thread would lead to the janny deleting your posts.

SAD NEWS
Aqua did the funny ending first, and her numbers will suffer for it.
WHY AQUA. WHY.

>>13793957
https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1465320146910679041
wasnt able to get the peak but i saw it hit 19k

>>13793971
Why is Ui so strong compared to other Holomamas that does vtubing like Ayamy and Pochi then?

>>13793736
>>13793892
Anon in the past theorize that it was some kind of policy from anykara. Most of them are probably some kind of one time/continual commisions rather than a collaborative partnership. Do noted that anykara also has their own illust so it was assumed they just dont want to share too much bread with strangers

>>13793892
Speaking of artists, Ina becoming a Holo mama is inevitable, yay or nay?

>>13793897
Yeah, apart from her EoP fanbase being pretty high 10-20%, most of her streams were solo, or with Lize, so she was basically in her own world already.

>>13794011
that's because it's off-topic in the /hlg/ since Lulu isn't actually Hololive related kek. it's just a way to summon the niji meido. the reason why /hlg/ hasn't been booted off /jp/ is that the niji thread is still there. if he were to kick /hlg/, he needs to kick the niji thread as well.

>>13793842
hikakin and korekore, they barely stream but when they do they always get over 100k

>>13793842
>>13793998
thanks, makes sense

>>13793992
I dont think thats true.

>>13794077
She said she doesn't want to.

>>13793774
sport fes brings in lots of new viewers, same thing happen last year
the numbers are already high and than pokemon and gen6 drop out of nowhere pushing the numbers even higher

>>13793892
Maybe a contract thing? There are a lot of models from Anykara that are made in-house as well. Still, you're right that the prestige of being a holomama dwarfs being a Nijimama. Like seriously, oshio and Korone's mama rarely mention their Nijisanji kids and yet oshio interacts with Kanata all the time and Korone gets spoiled rotten by her artist.

>>13794052
I guess popular daughter = popular mama. I honestly don't know.

>>13793892
Kakage is really a special case, as he is a big Holo fan and Towa's specially, so having a daughter in hololive is like life goal to him. He also got like 250k yen last HoloKet with Shinkishi so more money to him.

I wonder what do nips usually watch during primetime. I watch Pekora because there's nothing on TV that's good these days. Do they turn to streamers when there's nothing good on? People are using smart TVs connected to the internet and YT nowadays. News or shows aren't that good when netflix/host sites exists. Is this also a reason why Pekora has such a large following at her time?

>>13794052
She does alot of collabs with both nijis and holos, she has a very good stream persona, and also her holo daughter is very famous

>>13794092
It’s better for /vt/ that /hlg/ is quarantined there. That place is more of a cesspit of schizos than here.

>>13794149
>old one

>>13794052
With Subaru, she is strong. Both of them are extroverts.

>>13794052
>>13794154
She is famous within the anime industry

>>13794093
not heard of korekore and the only time I saw hikakin's numbers he was around 20k but regardless when compared to western streaming there is a lot less competition

>>13794174
anon, the schizos are already here, that just gives them a spot to breed because the jannies don't actually care about the /jp/ thread

>>13794174
>It’s better for /vt/ that /hlg/ is quarantined there. That place is more of a cesspit of schizos than here.
That's not remotely true. I browse both threads so I noticed whenever shitposting dies down in the /hlg/, baits and schizoposting rise here.

>>13791158
Can you imagine Pekora with a good voice? She would still have a way to make it iconic anyway and more people will like her voice
She also will have the confidence to push out more songs

>>13793553
Doesnt matter what Mori said, FBK is closer to management than most Cover managers

>>13794218
well you are comparing one country against the whole western community after all

>>13794149
I've been thinking
45 min is usually a normal stream's peak
for events it an still increase in the last few seconds
Even with the stream stagnating, it was seeing small bumps.
Would La+ have gotten at least over 170k if she kept going to 45-60 min?

>>13794051
19.3k

>>13794193
was Ui famous even before Subaru? I wonder how many holo parents became famous because of Hololive.

>>13794271
i meant English streaming vs Japanese my bad

>>13794218
This just shows how big holo and niji will become. If they play their cards right, they will become the mainstream media for zoomers and future generations

>>13794077
>>13794111
She said while she is still active. She left the door open for after graduation or if there was some weird situation and Yagoo asked her personally to help out. I personally think it will happen some day it’s really the only thing missing from her career achievements list now that some of her work is getting an anime adaption. Having Ina as your mama would be quite a numbers boost too you have to imagine

>>13794251
Yea, that's fair. I just really wish the pokemon company, gamefreak and Nintendo would just stop being annoying bastards with the permissions already. Well, more PC+Gamefreak since they already have an agreement with Nintendo.

>>13793598
Crying won't do anything google implements a purposely byzantine opaque system they don't tell anyone about and can blame so they can continue their various social experiments and social engineering efforts without backlash.

>>13794148
Regarding Oshio, I think she mentioned that Kanata just reaches out more and asks for collabs, according to Kanata they talk fairly often.

>>13794346
Crying means anyone who was unsubbed might notice and resub.

>>13794298
Yeah. She was already a pretty well commisioned illust back then. Being a vtuber and actually following subaru's idol path promote her even further

>>13794346
this is high stakes. your pussy mentality isnt needed here.

>>13794346
It'll help raise awarness and gain sympathy from the fanbase. It also help that Sora also speaks out about it. It will not reach YT ofc, but at least the fans resub and enggage with their subscription once in a while

>>13794294
probably

Super packed slot tonight, the post-debut collab is going to suffer from a 40k+ Fubuki and 30k+ Marine

>>13794368
they even go to dinner sometimes also Oshio's oshi is Okayu

>>13794346
anon, we're talking about hundrets of thousands of subscribers here.
According to many financial youtubers, Cover could be losing 5-10k$ per stream in sponsorships.

>>13792995
translators should tag when someone is reading chat, a chunk of those messages are from chat suggestions, only the one at 14:00 seems to be hers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sptD2piwJX4

45k already

>>13794707
That's a feature, not a bug. To put it another way, advertisers get the same reach for $5-10K less per stream! What a deal!

50k get

>50K GET!

>>13794836
>To put it another way, advertisers get the same reach for $5-10K less per stream!
hah

Not with AdBlock they don't... or with YouTube Premium for that matter. YouTube should consider sponsoring major content creators to get users to get premium if they want to forgo ads on the site.

Can somone post the latest cull

>>13794325
>the only thing missing from her career achievements list now that some of her work is getting an anime adaption
https://twitter.com/HJbunko/status/1465259241539661825

>>13793774
They reached critical mass where they can rotate the talent at the head of the paceline without losing momentum.

Aqua, Korone and Suisei barely steamed this month and it didn’t hurt them.
Lose Gura, Ina and Calli for a while and loses lots of momentum

>>13794162
Saw some anons arguing on 5ch recently about that. One keep saing that hololive will die in few years and focusing on TV and roommates for girls is the best for them. Bunch of others keep asking if he really watched TV saying after jijis and babas die off TV will drop in popularity, one of them put quote from some article asking people from 17-40? what they watch and it was mainly netflix/amazon prime. From that I saw in comments from people watching streams EN or JP people are losing interest in TV. That's why streaming scene keep growing despite some doomposters who think that streaming, including Vtubing, will suddenly falloff. We have no indication of decline on screaming scene and no real rival for yet.

>>13793774
they don't have Omegatranny and shitty managers that shut down projects before they are done
for example, Gura and Ame have been denied from doing shitpost videos since debut and JP6 debuted with shitposting videos

>>13795035
>no shitty managers
>management shut down Pekora and Marine's projects
ok ENschizo

>>13795059
go back to twitter

>>13794998
It’s similar to the US ain’t it?
Younger generations don’t want to pay $100 for a cable package where they only watch 2-3 channels.
Just get a streaming subscription or watch YouTube.

>>13795059
?
That's pretty normal in working environment?

>>13792995
Isn't she just getting mixed up. Seeing the recent slow sub growth of most holo members and thinking its the same as what is happening with HoloX?
I don't see noticeable culls from sora's channel.

>>13794976
Whew that's a huge deal for an illustrator. Sadly seems a little too generic to be a breakout hit but still a career goal for many in her field. How the fuck does she produce so much content though? If you add up all the work she's done in the last year it's actually insane.

>>13795083
Cope, EN management propelled a side branch into a global phenomenon overshadowing the main branch, they're far more competent than the retards running JP who chased out their biggest SC earner

>>13795035
> denied from doing shitpost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcOAHTlBUKM

Go watch the girls instead of thread-reading.

>>13793207
It feels like gen6 are putting on this numberfag act a bit harder because its content.

>>13795139

retarded

>HoloX complaining about sub cull to 70k people watching live

>>13795059
he's right. omegatroon is at fault for most of these and Ina's nepotism didnt help the momentum from council to push holoEN

>>13793889
Sugita is the kind of man I strive to be.

>>13795139
EN is fucking abandoned now, the homos get more corporate attention, look at EVERY SINGLE MERCH with their image, is still the same FUCKING DEFAULT POSE, they can't even commission someone to do updated material, I have 5 different sets of merch WITH THE SAME IMAGE, just on a slightly different format

70k

Is this the biggest post-debut stream? I don't think Koyori did this good.

>>13795180
>something they had the green light for literally this week
Ame talked about this before her vacation, Kiara too when talking about how she was not happy with the material chosen for the shorts channel

>>13795266
> EN is fucking abandoned now
Anon said this while EN is showing up for Holofes3.

>>13795326
Laplus - 54k
Laplus + Lui - 68k
Laplus + Lui + Koyori - 62k

>>13795035
>Gura
Never said that. She said that she loses motivation to do them because it takes too long to get them approved in the time frame that she is motivated to get them done.

>>13793506
Anon, here's your image

>>13795324
Kiara will never be happy and always complain to bait for SCs.

>>13793577
>>13793592
Iofi randomly having connections within the anime industry is one of the weirder things in hololive

>>13795350
Given the border situation that's wishful thinking, unless the JP government decides its okay for fully vacc'd people to enter regardless of origin.

>>13795390
>gen 6 numberfagging and whining about losing subs
>good, they're so smart
>Kiara complaining about management being retarded
>bad, why is she never happy
not saying there's double standards, but...

>>13795350
*Irys is
probably Mori too and they might throw some pre-recorded stuff to sell more tickets saying "they are participating"

>>13795401
Some ENs don't need to cross the border.

>>13795350
wait was it announced already?

>>13795427
even Yagoo is RT'ing their numberfagging and complains

>>13795259
>nepotism
All of jp6 girls are nepotism retard

>>13795456
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1465266789185560577
The EN live in Japan though

>>13795427
Kiara been crying since day 1. It gets old and very petty. JP6 is still having the honeymoon benefits while Kiara's has ran out, and need to start acting like a role-model.

>>13795436

>Some ENS

Yeah like only Irys and Calli

>>13795481
>Yagoo will RT gen 6 whining
>won't RT Kiara's valid complaints

>>13795436
So just irys. So it's really just going to be holofest 2 minus coco but replace with irys. Cause she the only one who can get 3d.

>>13795456
IRyS is (Likely) showing up in the announcement for Fes3 as cardboard, and may or may not be getting 3d (based off of her being PON and mentioning something wrt 3d when someone SC'd her, checked the Holotwitter and realized nothing had been posted, and quickly backtracked).
So, we'll see, non-zero chance IRyS shows up for fes3.

>>13795495
God they really need to do something about her live2d.

>>13795494
the difference being that the new JP's were actual streamers, not some shut in austrochink that barely had zero entertaining experience, look at the curriculum of any Gen6, they mog most of Hololive in every aspect

>>13795495
Ah yes, I remember when they made Nene appear for this without a 3D model, made her announce holofes 2, and then told her she wasn't going to be in it.

>>13795427
Good for them to raise awarness within the community. This cull has robbed and doing a lot of damage to smaller chuuba. See nijiEN and nverse

>>13795350
Ugh no retard, they dont even have 3d and idol outfit

>13795427
>insecure kfp shitting up a numbers thread
fuck's sake why are kfp always who cant handle numbers? even teammates and ID dont argue numbers and cope with them like kfp do.

>>13795427
being as unlikable as kiara is a talent

>>13795527
JP>EN
(You) get Omega

>>13795514
If the ENs don't want to get shot, then it's on them.

>>13795594
>>13795390 started it

Welcome back ENschizo-kun.. how was your sleep?

Why do feel that Chloe will ed up as the number 2 of her gen

>>13795634
just leave faggot. get back to global or kiara's general. leave us alone if you cant handle numbers. spam unity there

>>13795564
Holofest 2 + NePoLaBo + Myth (in some way) - Coco.
It seems like a win for everyone.
ID1, ID2 and Council could appear as cameos tho, like with the Can You Do the hololive version on Fes 2. HoloX is not out too.

KFPs love to complain just like their oshi. Every time Kiara does something good, her babbling mouth will ruin the atmosphere shortly after. That's why Kiara is not respected.

From their group dynamics and from my gypsy fortune telling let me tell you the future:
Koyori > Chloe > La+ > Iroha > Lui

nips have probably been waiting for a new gen for a while, must be a lot of people that wont get into a vtuber and especially an idol if it's not early into their career

>>13795495
IRyS being the best girl of Hololive but having the worst live2D avatar is a fucking insult.

>>13795527
what complaints?

wait, this is the numbers thread, I thought this was Global for a second because of the lack of nijis, where are they?

>>13795840
Pink cat....but good?

>>13795872
>Gen 6 rejects watching the stream
>Stares at the numbers
>That should've been me
A reminder anons, a 2 view succeeded on joining Hololive in the expense of thousands of them

Hien Madoka and Suzuka Stella got their usual 1-1.1k today.

>>13795965
Pink dog anon...

>>13795872
I mean, part of the attraction is seeing the talents grow right? Being as early as possible is also bragging rights so that may play into it as well.

>>13795978
Imagine how Sony's vtubers feels right now

>>13795965
She's a coyote, which is close to a fox, which is close to a wolf, which is close to a dog.

>>13795840
From their collab contribution in numbers let me tell you the future:
La+ > Chloe > Lui > Koyori
How come La+ is over the others? Easy, she got 50k herself. Koyori added the lowest to the amount. Sadly your favorite catdog will be bottom tier unless the last girl is a massive debuff.

>>13796005
So that's their regular? I remember watching Madoka's stream before La+'s debut and she was averaging like 1.3k most of the time I tuned in.

>>13796079
They have better fates than all the 2views out there.

>>13795262
true spirit animal

>>13796084
pretty sure a fox and a wolf fucked centuries ago to get a coyote

>>13791816
chad Fubuking

One thing I hate following virtual youtuber topic on twitter is getting all the irrelevants and nijis mixed in with Hololive. Bao popped up, and she had that redacted thing on her name. Is she really going to genvlive lol?

>>13795978
Best part is some of these girls were, if not literal 2 views, not far from it. The difference between signing on with Sony and Hololive is literally 100-1000 times the views and subs, and 100-1000x the money. The "what ifs" must drive some of them to insanity. Look at orcschizo

Chloe and Lui has the same manager.

>>13795427
as a 2view Im glad they are speaking about it, YT will never hear me but maybe they will hear the biggest vtuber company

>>13791816
Gow many more 40k+ streams would FBK need tommorow to pass Kuzuha in the month end ranking?

>>13792995
I'm 110% sure they have no idea that all +500k channels have sub-bleed by default and are now baffled by this.

Always wondered how they can afford to take several weeks off from regular content production and not actually notice it until now...

>>13796238
God I hope so, with the drama between Nux and vshojo GenVlive is almost definitely going to be pitted as direct competitors to vshojo and that means the both of them will tear each other apart while Holo/Niji etc all would get to sit pretty on the sidelines chewing popcorn and not getting affected by that drama at all.

>>13793901
if she does it right, she can potentially be:
>the better nene
>the better ayame
>the better aqua
>the better suisei
all in one package

>>13796185
cant believe that Fubuki and Mio fuck

>>13795978
Just imagine what the 6th best applicant must feel. Literally a fingernail away from Superstardom. People have unironically committed seppuku for less.

>>13796336
>2view
You see any chances of making it?
>YT will never hear me but maybe they will hear the biggest vtuber company
Unfortunately, 2viewchama, YouTube only cares about YouTube... and advertisers. They're not very smart, sadly.

>>13795495
Can IRYS just get 3D before the rest of the EN just so she doesn't have to see that ugly L2D model

>>13794294
Considering that Chloe hit her peak as she started singing at the end of the stream, yes, she would have probably landed around 180k.

Already at million

>>13790672
soulless

>>13796438
Theoretically speaking, IRyS can get the 3D before everyone since she actually doesn't belong to a generation and she will need it if she wants to do concerts with choreography. The real question is: would Cover do it?

>>13796438
With the turnover rate we've seen in the past, her 3D should be just about done too.
It's all about, if Cover decides to drop the seniority order and let Calli and Irys just perform in 3D.

Feels like the 5ch vtuber threads have just been going insane with numberfagging ever since Friday. Even more than usual.

>>13796400
nepotism win

>>13796494
Susan will cull it.

>>13796504
I mean, she's clearly a vampire.
I guess they have no soul.

>>13796367
The drama just won’t die down cause the girls keep reigniting the fire. What a good way to spend their 1 year anniversary.

>>13796541
susan can cull my dick

>>13796523
kek where's the matomeposter, i wanna see funny nip comments

Did Edengumi had a cool looking trailer when their announcement dropped?

>>13796707
edengumi...

>>13796670
>wanting to be a woman this badly
>>>/lgbt/

>>13796612
https://twitter.com/nyannyanners/status/1465216128645406724
This shit will never end because nux fans want revenge for nyanners sending her fanbase to harrass Nux, and vshojo fans won't stop harrasing them back because nux put out that video "without vshojo's permission". This entire thing is self perpetuating now and it could've all been avoided if Nyanners would just shut the fuck up and let corporate handle it in private.

>>13796707
No, they had ads in train stations though, lol.

>>13796612
drama is good for numbers

>>13795786
That makes no sense NePolLaBo were already in bloom. Myth not going to be on stage excpet appear on ads like last time with holo id 1 and 2 like last time. Unless your counting on the slim chance there going to give irys 3d. There nothing that this concert is going to different than the other one. Unless there going to rush holox 3d models and make them an opening act this concert. I guess Council may make it to ads that they are going to upload on YouTube any why.

So in total the only thing different for this concert vs last one is gen 5 idol costume, council and irys ads, slime chance coco return performance. They have no opening act this time either.

>>13796707
They had ads... Like a lot of ads...

>>13793750
dont forget the janny drama

>>13796612
Yagoo's BLACK MAGIC in full effect. Vshoujo was without a doubt Hololives biggest competitor in the west and Nux was suppose to unveil a new vtuber group which was probably going to try to leverage their "connection" with VShoujo, automatically catapulting them to the 3rd most popular EN group. But thanks to the drama, and Jp6 perfect timing, Vshoujo and Nuxs reps are fucked and more people are now returning to Hololive. BRAVO YAGOO.

>>13796520
>if Cover decides to drop the seniority order and let Calli and Irys just perform in 3D.
Isnt Fubuki both Genn1 and Gamers? Would it be worth it to renegotiate contracts and make Calli both an ENVSinger and HoloMyth?

>>13796826
Doesn’t look good for sponsors which is what I’m assuming gunrun is worried about. The girls themselves to couldn’t give a fuck about that though kek

>>13796256
>"I made it to the final round of the hololive gen 5 interviews but dropped out, so now I'm debuting under my own power!"

>>13796804
>>13796859
>ads
kek that's funny.anyway why put all the focus of viewers on their main channel but can't use it to promote newer gens? It's useless if not used like that. Ads is even more expensive.

>>13795840
koyori gives me weird vibes
my spider senses are going off
might anti her

>>13796612
this is how EVERY SINGLE streamer works on twitch
>be irrelevant
>leech on someone
>spawn some drama in the group
>both try to win each other's fanbase
>some one gets cancelled
and this way 50% of the other fanbase move to the winner, the other half scatters to other streamers
OTV was pretty successful in this, they are the masters of drama spawned popularity

>>13796940
Dropped out as in she willingly drop out on her own?

>>13796940
That can’t be real.
Maybe she’s just making it up.

>>13797003
That's how you generate ever stronger streamers, it's the ancient Chinese method of producing the most sublime poison, gu.

>>13796541
my pattern recognition skills are too good for me to think this is intentional by YT. they (the sjws and woke feminists) dont like the concept of anime girls or vtubers. so it cant be far fetched to think these algorithms arent letting the vtuber channels grow organically. there is something there imo

>>13797084
As in she was rejected, failed to make it.

>>13796826
only if you are viewed as the one in the right

>>13796541
She isn't touching the view counter

>>13797089
or you can avoid all conflict like hololive, this is why "popping the bubble" is the worst thing they can do, they are not prepared

>>13796940
whew lad some 4D chess moves here. defiantly not seething after the fact

>>13796940
Hey Aloe want millions of dollars, a supportive set of colleagues who have also dealt with family drama, stalkers, and antis, and basically be set for life? No? Just want to be crazy? Okay you do you...

>>13797129
A shame

>>13796940
> You got rejected, but your mom made it in...
Shameful dispray.

>>13797192
When I watch Hololive, they have their yabs and drama, but I can be 99.99% sure I don't have to listen to their stupid political takes, and that they won't get embroiled in stupid Twitter drama with the likes of Nux or Vshojo. That's a huge part of their appeal.

>>13796840
They can have NePoLaBo be the opening act with their Idol costume, as well of putting prerecorded songs from Myth made in VR live if they wanted it. I don't expect them to neglect HoloEN as a whole because of Irys being there as the representative of EN, like Nene was for Fes 2.
>There nothing that this concert is going to different than the other one.
Gen 4 (and Gen 5 if Myth is the opening act) doing duets or song groups with the other gens. That alone should be enough for you.
And of course everyone, even HoloX is going to appear on the adds or the sketchs in between songs to add more into the Hololive brand. As for Irys, everything can happen, even to show her 3D debut on the show.
Call it hopium or whartever but the oportunity is there and Cover knows it.

>>13797198
If you were that 2view you'd be seething that Aloe just threw away that success and left an empty spot that'd never be filled. That could've been your spot.

>>13797003
So this is why the EN indie sphere seems to be a never ending cavalcade of petty drama.

>>13796507
Doubt. Nips might be scared of pissing off Mythfags. Irys will probably get it together with Myth though

>>13797265
>I don't expect them to neglect HoloEN as a whole because of Irys being there as the representative of EN, like Nene was for Fes 2
What did Nene get to do for Fes 2?

>>13797284
Drama. Coomer bait. That's pretty much it when it comes to things that will actually significantly grow your channel in the cesspool that is Twitch

>>13797284
yes, in this industry there's no such thing as friends, they all want the numbers and no one wants the shorter stick, it's eat or be eaten

>>13797003
It's the meta. Don't blame the players, bro.

>>13797255
Not a coincidence that Kiara and Matsuri reclined because of menhera tendencies. Maybe even Sana who didn't act professionally and didn't stream for a month.

>>13797322
Be on the reveal stream as a cardboard, like Irys is. What I'm strying to say is that they're taking EN into account this time so I expect them to add more for HoloEN.

>>13797387
I'll hate you and the game!

>>13796789
>it could've all been avoided if Nyanners would just shut the fuck up and let corporate handle it in private.
Anon, this whole thing started because Joker Batman couldn't keep his ego in check and made a goddamn video taunting le swatter he didn't even caught

Stacked streams + Gen 6 collab

>>13796520
Mori said the she won't do the 3D debut without her genmates

>>13797509
And what did Nene and gen 5 get to do for the actual holofes 2?

man i use to hate "numberfag threads" but i find there is no better place for objective (obviously not all the time) discusions about vtubers and trends around them. some interesting takes here even if it all conjecture

>>13797530
Yes, and if nyanners would just keep her mouth shut it would've ended at that. Nyanners complaining to her audience instead of to management is what resulted in this going from a minor incident to a giant fucking shitstorm that cast a shadow over both vshojo's anniversary and Nux's new agency.

>>13797582
I tried venturing out of # for a bit. It was like 90% schizos out there.

>>13797530
Nyanners struck first after that and dragged the rest of the company in by ranting on her discord. It put their management in a shitty position because they “praised” Nux before Nyanners lashed out. This forced the company to delete their statement and have the rest of the girls defend her.

>>13797580
they werent even there, gen 5 didnt get to do anything in 3d until bloom

>>13797555
Then she will never have 3D because this COVID shit will never end. At this point I'm actually fine with covid passports or what the fuck ever. If you're vaccinated, you should be able to travel.

>>13797551
is being the last to debut a buff?

>>13797670
They were there (prerecorded) at the start as announcers for the rules and stuff, and held a watchalong stream for both days. I expect Gen 6 to take over that role this year.

>>13797701
But those old fuckers are the only ones who vote in Japan. You can see why they’re hesitant to kill off their voter base.

>>13797003
nijiEN is engaging with this side of twitch too and imo is one of the worst things they can do, every time they have a collab with the twitch niggers they end up losing people, mostly because the other streamers slap in their faces the fact that they dont need to ask for permissions to play games, its pretty obvious what they are trying to do there
>hey girls, wanna play [hype new game they can't play] next time?
>s-sorry, we don't have permissions for that...
>oh, how sad,,, well for anyone interested we will be playing it tomorrow! make sure to follow!
they are slowly eating them and they don't realize

Some indie Russian numbers on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTFZymYNNJ4

>>13797701
Japan could also implement mandatory quarantines upon arrival. I'm sure some people would be willing to go through that.

>>13797736
Probably not. Bae was last to debut on a relay and i dont think she has the highest number.

>>13796940
Care to link her channel? Kinda interested on how she is as a Chuuba.

>>13797736
they might have an announcement

>>13797582
Ever since VNUMA, the prime live ranking site, died along with the change in OP pics. The shitposters died and the anons here just fill this place with,

>predictions
>topics that are interesting or coming out from their asses
>sponsorships, events, collabs one might find interesting to talk about in the vtubing community
But primarily, all we do here is shit on low numbers. Other than that, some topics here and there to curve boredom. There's also resident schizos.

>>13797582
Same. I used to avoid these threads like the plague, but I've been in here the past few days mostly just reading (posted a few times) and the mostly objective discussions in here is a breath of fresh air, barring the occasional schizos and shitposters. The only other threads that are as chill as this one on this board are generals. I like it here.

>>13797838
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4jVVKpFIm76kaUq4SM91-g/featured

>>13797788
expanding on this, the only one winning is Selen because all she has to do is to shill her Apex streams, the lack of permissions doesn't affect established games, all of her branch mates lose though

>>13791927
SUSAN CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN

>>13791927
How many times has Laplus passed Baelz and Fauna now

>>13797917
Her apex doesn’t seem to be doing that well recently. It strongly relies on who her collab partners are.
But when the rest of the branch is stuck in the 1k range it looks good I guess

>>13797905
Thanks anon.

>>13797917
She's been trying to appeal to the prime apex streamers on twitch, but she's too low leveled for that. Apex preds disdains weaker teammates.

>>13797877
reminder that YT took them down because we could accurately interpolate the end views with the CCV and calculate the wrong numbers

>>13797845
Idol sex night on the 30th of each month

>>13797877
>we
hehe numbers really rile you up huh, kfp?

>>13797968
well, she wasn't expecting that vtuber tourneys were full of rank-freezers and wanted to mog everyone as predator

>>13797792
Moona has been collabing with her consistently, I'd rather call her Holo adjacent than pure indie.

>>13797792
isnt she Moona's friend?

Hololive debut stream VOD top 35 (~ Myth)
https://youtu.be/dpa5bwdlj80
After Myth debut 1 month

>>13794998
>appealing to tv shows
Holos wouldn't benefit from that or doing shit like this with sutopuri. The next gen of entertainment is online. Get to the times, old folks of Japan.

>>13798075
If she knew anything about the tourney scene she would know that, instead she got a pred to carry her to Masters and made herself a fucking anchor because she’s worth too many points but doesn’t have the skill.
For vtubers getting masters solo is just a way to show off, other than that they tend to sit in Diamond.

>>13797582
>>13797648
>>13797877
>>13797897
I'd say the biggest advantage this particular thread has over much of the rest of the board is that this is "neutral" (for a Hololive dominated) ground due to it basically being a meta thread. You can talk about everyone here as long as it may relate numbers (especially business). You just can't complain if you bring up anyone not in the top charts and get shit on for doing so since that is the nature of the numbers thread (to pit chuubas in an eternal ranking battle).

I came from the /hlgg/ days on /jp/ and honestly, I basically stopped going to any of the other threads unless I see something interesting in the catalog that doesn't really fit here.

Did Rushia stream today? I suddenly see an influx of PekoRushi art on my Twitter

I've been gone awhile, why is fubuki doing so well? she used to be able to get around 10k on a good day a couple of months back

i dont get how is FKB able to maintain the viewer retension in her poke stream. its basically a just chatting stream with flare

>>13798298
Shiny hunting streams are the most popular Pokémon content.

>>13797792
anybody know her regular numbers? Did the 3D give her a boost?

>>13798298
She is really, really good at remaining entertaing while talking. You just kinda want to know what she talks about next

>>13798298
Pokemon gacha
nips love gacha

>>13798347
She always had 3D at her home

>>13798293
This >>13798367 with >>13798348 . FBK relax most of the times but when she wants numbers, she does it and can be on Pekora's level.
That being said, she doesn't do it as much because why do it when others are doing it.

Terrible performances from nijis today except maybe Kuzuha for snagging a #5

>>13797999
She has no one to blame but herself. Having Selen as NijiEn's "star" was probably the worst thing that could happen to the branch.
>Literally only "good" at APEX.
>Sucks at everything else, even other FPS so she can't even pretend to be EN Botan
>Can't speak Japanese so can't even capitalize on the Japanese Tourney Scene
>A literal number vacuum. Pretty much turned the rest of NijiEn except Elira into a bunch of Tito Jacksons.
>Whether intentionally or not, kneecapped Ethyria on their debut by dunking on them.
Anykara seriously sucks at scouting.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>176,697: Chloe (Hololive)
>62,451: Koyori (Hololive)
>46,310: Fubuki (Hololive)
>40,385: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>37,462: Marine (Hololive)
>35,369: Pekora (Hololive)
>20,438: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>20,414: Polka (Hololive)
>20,120: Rushia (Hololive)
>19,204: Kanata (Hololive)
>17,158: Tenkai Tsukasa (Indie?)
>16,039: Kanata (Hololive)
>15,309: Toko (Nijisanji)
>14,049: Aqua (Hololive)
>12,485: Flare (Hololive)
>11,826: Haachama (Hololive)
>11,774: Sana (Hololive)
>11,315: Kagami (Nijisanji)
>10,902: Fushimi Gaku (Nijisanji)
>10,888: Yashiro (Nijisanji)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWWhjisKKlA

>Buff (?) song
>Debuff partner
Predictions?

>>13798546
>Debuff partner
I don't know anon, this surely plays well into Calli "giving back to the community" angle

>>13798445
>FBK relax most of the times but when she wants numbers, she does it and can be on Pekora's level.

Anon im super impressed with what fubuki is getting right now but just because she can get this numbers on pokemon shiny hunt doesn't mean she can be a pekora level. Pekora numbers is pretty consistent and rarely you will see her below 15k+ on any games/streams.

>>13797897
That's because shitposters have gotten used to just stealing stuff here to bait the rest of the board. Hopefully it's because this thread sees enough of actual numbers to BTFO the baits but more likely this thread has hyper ADHD and is easily distracted by the next set of big numbers

>WACTOR BROS....

>>13798535
not a bad take i say

>>13798580
No I like Milky but she is a massive, massive debuff, worse than BGV. She has 40K subscribers on a channel that's not even dedicated to her, and is a literal 2 view on Twitch

>>13798603
Anon. She's the face of Hololive, everyone love her and she can get big number when she want to simply because of that

>>13798580
That's irrelevant to the point though. Good will can be earned nominally without giving views.

>>13791739
how do we stop the SEA menace?

>>13796789
The fanbase really reflect their oshi

>>13797877
>along with the change in OP pics
Can I get a barrage of dabs in honor of the anon who figured out making a shitpost unrelated pic for OP would improve thread quality?

I'll START
>BANZAI ANON WHO DID THAT!
>BANZAAAI!

>>13797877
Man I miss VNUMA

>>13798672
old news anon
the rrat is about her talking to nijiEN and they proceeded to kick her to curve for contract violation

>>13798536
Goddamn that top 5. Even without the debut, you'd still need 35k to get in. The fuck is going on. Also, is it just me, but ever since JP6 debuted, the whole industry feels like its going through its own version of E3. Everyone seems to be hyperfocused on JP6, even indies.

>>13798536
Stick a fork in him, Kuzuha is done

>>13798535
You can see it right now with Gen 6, all the other holos are praising and building up the girls. Trying to get fans to watch them.
Selen straight up dunked them so hard she gained their potential viewers.

>>13798535
nijiEN3 didnt help. their numbers fell by 30% and pomu started panicking for a few weeks, now she has calmed down about it but it was bad a month or 2 ago.
selen was doing fine with variety streams AND apex but for some reason she went full tilt into apex a month ago. this started hurting her and the nijiEN branch too.
a solution would be to move apex streams to weekends or a few designated days to condition the audience so the audience can choose other nijiEN streamers. if she keeps up this guerilla and random streams, its going ot hurt even more

>>13796789
If they managed it well the drama could've helped both parties. But apparently they decided to be pants on head retarded about now they get to deal with literal children shit flinging for months

>>13796880
>pic related

>>13798851
>Selen straight up dunked them so hard she gained their potential viewers.
SORRY, NOT SORRY!
>What was yours is now mine
NOTHING PERSONEL, KIDDO!

>yesterday: 52k
>today: 35k
Marine is reclining.

>>13798830
yeah, no shit, Hololive is practically the E3 of vtubers right now. One of their new debuts asks for it and a hashtag makes it to number one trending. There's really nothing else that can compare to them.

>>13798735
Sure. she is but my point is that you can't suddenly say someone is pekora level just because she is getting huge numbers on a buff stream.

>>13798603
I'm saying she can get numbers on Pekora level. Consistensy is another thing. But you need to remember FBK is popular. Enough to have a 50k stream on minecraft just making a hole.
>>13798830
Hololive always brings views and everyone can use them to bring more eyes to them. It's their gift to the Vtuber world.

>>13797952
At least 4 times so far.

>>13796541
yeah, probably after sub cull period is over.
happened to kronii and fauna debut vod

>>13798860
>a solution would be to move apex streams to weekends or a few designated days to condition the audience so the audience can choose other nijiEN streamers.
Are they still overlapping heavily? They have like 10 members and four more on the way.

>>13799082
They all want that NA prime time.

>>13797555
She should've never said that. Unlike the others who take it easy, she has an actual goal and solid ambition. Every second counts, if she had her 3D she could participate in shit ton of musical events.

>>13797877
Changing the OP really helps
I did a test with /morig/ by removing the alliteration and making if harder to find using the search function
The amount of horny and schizo posting reduced a lot

>>13798536
Remember when JP6 hasn't dropped yet? Remember when this thread thought this was Kuzuha's best chance to get a gold? Even without the debuts, King would have still been BTFO by a fishing FBKing

>>13798347
she doesn't have live2d in the first place

>>13799082
yes

Have we talked about the sad news that Kuzuha doesn't want to participate in the December CR Cup?

>>13793796
Uiha very hololive? man you guys hate nijisanji but do everything to make their members as hololive.

>>13799226
Kuzuha will do bio stream this December isn't he?

>>13799226
>sad news
he quit apex obviously

>>13799103
>>13799187
Man, they're dumb fucking stupid. They need to set up a schedule with alternating days to reduce overlaps while also giving everyone a chance to stream in the particular prime-time hours. Do they have a show of some kind? If they don't they should also consider that as well.

>>13798964
>One of their new debuts asks for it and a hashtag makes it to number one trending
Shit must be the craziest experience, especially for ex-2views like Koyori. Just imagine spending years grinding, trying to get people to turn your way, and now with just simple word you can get yourself no. 1 trending worldwide.

>>13794148
>>13793892
Someday you guys will notice that nijisanji and hololive are different agencies with different culture, same as other agencies.

>>13799226
And this is why having a single pillar supporting your entire company is a bad thing.

>>13798121
what?
>gura debut vod (1hr) after a month 1.7 mil
>lacunny debut vod (30mins) after 3 days 1.7 mil
susan will cull holox debut vods soon tho, so surpassing guras 4.6 mil debut vod is kind of a long shot

>>13799238

Anon said that probably because she releases a fuckton of covers/her music ambition but yeah, personality wise.. lol

>>13798270
this. anyone crying about numbers thread is plebbit tier censorship goons who always want "good feelings"

>>13798546
I think deadbeats are pretty okay with MilkyQueen, should be a neutral. Under a week to 1 mil imo, probably closer to 3-4 days.

>>13799063
Actually all Council's debut.
Bae once surpassed 1M, and Sana was around 960K

>>13799226
what was the reason?