/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>13846255
If you went back 6 months ago and told everyone that mori would have the most streamed hours, everyone would laugh at you.

Damn, is this truly Mori at 6%?

>>13846387
>5.01%

>>13846255
Based
Unitytards and globalredditors need to accept this

>>13846332
She was pretty average even then a few months ago.

A fucking vSINGER streams more than two Council's COMBINED. Just think about that.

Does content matter here at all?
Most of Mori's time was spent playing Jump King and going through the same 3-4 floors while talking the day away.

>>13846746
>zatsudan bad

>>13846255
You call that lazy?

>>13846255
>Sana isn’t the last

IRyS, Mori, and (as much as it pains me to say this) Kiara are practically carrying all of EN on their shoulders.

>>13846255
>>13846332
Holy shit

I was disappointed with the council, so I switched to NijisanjiEN and never looked back.

>>13846746
Zatsus tend to be a lot of the best content. You're definitely not watching EN for their gaming skills

Mumei graduation when? She clearly doesnt give a fuck about hololive

I don't care for HoloCouncil either. But take it to your numberfag thread

>>13846941
you are delusional and retarded

>>13846669
Irys is fuckin awesome, please like comment and subscribe

>>13846255
Sana is inclining…

>>13846941
The three worst? Time to give up and stop watching

>>13846669
Though IRyS needs to cut down because of throat complaints

>>13846941
EN is doomed...

If you want numberfag at least get your number right, Mumei had more than 15 streams in Nov

>>13847398
She didnt and you know it. Mumei needs to graduate and stop being a parasite in her gen
How she passed the audition considering her background is beyond me

>>13846908
For comparison, xqc streamed 265 hours in November. That's less than half of what he streamed in October and even then he streamed more than Council combined and could have overtaken Myth had he streamed 3 more days.

>>13847558
>That's less than half of what he streamed in October
Got it wrong. He streamed 288 hours in October

>>13847488
My bad, i shouldn't reply to a shizo who can't count

>>13846910
because she streams 8 hours a day

>>13847650
maybe if you "forgor" the people that dont buy your oshis bullshit will go away

Oohhh! Koreans doesnt stream too much.

All the other EN groups putting in the work whilst also balancing their real wagie jobs while Council just sit on their ass and lap up $20-50K on a Membership opening stream is just depressing. They don't even need to try anymore. Even the JP girls who said they'd work hard to learn English learned pretty quickly that they could equally just not fucking bother. Hollow, synthetic, sterile, and lazy.

>>13846255
>Irys 74 hours

It's crazy to think that an EN equivalent of Azki is raking more hours than most of her branch chuubas

>>13847060
How? Ame is burned out beyond belief, Gura is EN Ayame, Ina is too busy kneeling to Zhangs and Council could literally all graduate and no one would notice.

>>13846255
>just Mori and Kiara combined almost streamed as much as the entire Council
>IRyS, the supposed VSinger, still has 3rd most hours streamed
Other than Sana, I have zero hope in Council. Kronii will go full Ayame mode by ID gen 3, screenshot this.

I laughed out loud when vsinger have a longer play time than any two of council member combined

So am I reading this right, the only were streaming like 10-15 hours a week? God DAMN.

>>13846255

Please tell me a random fan actually made a fucking spreadsheet to track the hours of anime girl video game streamers.

>>13849302
and more than 3 Myth members too

>>13849302
A lot of that is probably mindset too
>I will have to record more music soon, so let's grind streams like crazy while I still can!
compared to
>I would really love to stream more but I am sort of occupied with this other project
Which leads to a "feast or diet" kind of situation for IRyS opposed to Cult's "diet or famine" attitude. They need to get their shit sorted out.

Council realized quickly that putting in more hours does nothing. Absolutely nothing. It doesn't boost your popularity, it doesn't help with the sub count, it doesn't even help with superchats for fucks sake because people will still pay the same just spread out over longer periods. There is absolutely no tangible difference between first months 0% Mori and current 6% Mori in terms of views, SC, etc.
Hell, Ayame quite literally just doesn't stream, EVER, and she still rakes in obscene amounts of money and is one of the most popular Holos.

So really, the only reason to stream would be if you actually like streaming.
And Kronii at least has been honest and up-front about the fact that she despises streaming and doesn't want to do it.

>>13850601
>And Kronii at least has been honest and up-front about the fact that she despises streaming and doesn't want to do it.
Man, no wonder i got filtered hard nearly the end of the Sports Festival, sure she was tired but so was everyone on EN, hell even moomer who was clearly running on fumes stayed with a good mood.
Screw that insufferable clock.

>>13846746
Zatsudans are better and more involved content than low-interaction game streams where the chuuba just mumbles about the action they're taking in game every few seconds.

>>13846746
I agree with content > stream's length. Aruran was the person who put in the most hours this month(?), but it was mostly dull minecraft action.

>>13846255
Ame... Gura... Ina... without Kiara and Calli there'd literally be no difference between myth and council rumao

>>13847358
>>13846669
Realistically it's the soda. Soda has corrosive acid that gives you throat cancer.

>>13850601
What's funny is that you're probably right. The streaming frequencies dropped off a cliff around the time that Council got their first monetization payouts. I think if you've ever worked a normal job where you scraped by, seeing your first Hololive paycheck just puts into perspective how you were trying too hard. They realized that they're on the gravy train now, and whether it's streaming 6 hours a week, or taking a month off, all is forgiven behind the mask of an anime girl, in fact you'll have another payout waiting for you in your "return stream."

That's why I prefer indies nowadays. Their struggles build character, and they've got more to show than being friends IRL with Ina.

>>13851892
If more people decided to join Mori on VC those Jump King streams would have been more memorable as Zatsudans, Fauna's latest RE7 stream got pretty good after all of council started to join in out of their own volition.

>>13852279
Ask Ame with an akasupa since she is the only one in Myth who hasn't joined

>>13852202
She has said that she doesn't drink all that much soda, like a 400ml bottle at most per day if at all.

>>13852255
I mean fuck, the whole point of Idols is that you watch them go from raw talent into superstars. That's their Wrestling storyline. People watch Miko and Suisei go from contemplating graduation into megahits with albums. People watched Towa's struggle to rekindle her lost honor come to a head with her 3D debut. Sora literally has her Round of Thirteen as a statement to how far she's carried herself and the company.

Now? We have Sana taking a month off because her pet died. Kronii taking a huge 'break' despite only being active for a month. Mumei barely streams. Ayame never streams. Membership streams and 'Return' streams are huge payouts that'll secure them months and months of financial stability and Ayame in particular has realised her paypigs will just do the work for her. Guaranteed success isn't 'Idol': it's soulless, idol-shaped corpo nonsense.

Indies and the smaller companies are putting their everything into even getting a fraction of what Holos get and show much more appreciation to the fans who help them get there.

>>13850601
Kronii, I know this is you. Pls stream fucking more frequently and contribute for the algorithm. Youtube is being more of a cunt for these years so dont laid your back on these whore-ish reasons and wait until hololive become now irrelevant in the entire internet. Like pls, for the sake of company that gave you fame, dont be a bum.

>>13852334
Her several cavities and root canal indicate she's basically like someone whose doctor tells them they've got elevated alcohol levels in their bloodstream and have developed a beer gut and the patient claims they only drink a six pack on saturday night.

>>13852172
I mean Mumei and Baelz are also doing their besht.

>>13851979

Hes a cool dude Minecraft would just be more fun in the same server as everyone else though

>>13852767
>mumei barely streams

That was last month dude she streams almost every day now.

>>13852767
Yet people go for corporate "idols" than the underdog indies, Pareto's law is a bitch but it's a feature of any free market or system.

Council (or EN really), need a watame/flare that puts in a bunch of hours. There's still several hours a day with barely any holo coverage, which is pretty insane to think about with how big the roster is now.

>>13852334
That's still a lot of soda, not drinking a lot of soda would mean drinking a bottle per week

>>13853277
So, i drink 1L of soda with 1L of vodka in one day which is my day off, am i drinking little of both poisons?

>>13853373
Forgot to add that's only one day a week.

>>13852994
nah go look at how much JP girls stream. My oshi streamed 128 hours this week

>>13853422
*month

>>13846387
For those curious: She spent a bit more than 13.23% of this month live on stream. The lowest was Kronii at about 3.65%.

>>13852767
The Hololive name grants too much guaranteed success, you don't feel the satisfaction of rooting for the underdog anymore with Hololive. Because they're at the top, they don't have any huge obstacles or barriers to break past, they've already won just by being Hololive. Funny enough, Holostars are the closest thing Holopro has to the idol experience right now because it actually feels like they're working towards greater success and earning their milestones rather than having good luck and algorithm power coast them towards victory.

>>13846941
Chickenfags really??

>>13853422
Not everyone can be Watame. everyone should be watame

Isn't Mumei in her last year of uni or something? Those streaming hours aren't too bad considering how busy she is, she sounds half dead or overcaffeinated in a lot of streams. Kronii has no excuse though. And what the hell happened to Ame?

>>13853223
The problem is that Euro primetime hours are mostly empty except for late-night japanese streams or early NA streams, with Kiara being the only consistent one since she is in Australia.

>>13853565
Kronii stole the deep voiced woman spot from Mori along with her <5% schtick

>>13853672
Besides, they have the debuff of being males.

>>13853739
OP cant count, Mumei streamed about 54 hours this month not including member stream

>>13853739
>Graduate at uni
>Graduate at vtubing

Picknome

>>13853565 (Me)
God I’m retarded I only just saw that OP pic literally has all those percentages

>Spent a month off because LET'S GOOOOOOOO
>Still streamed the most out of Council in general
Imagine if Sana's dog didn't die, her time would have been much higher

>>13853942
I did a quick count of just the streams on her channel and it's around 45 hours in November, and I think she also did around 5 hours of unarchived karaoke? And there are streams not on her channel like the 4 hour stream finale of A Way Out which was only on Bae's channel.

>>13854090
I genuinely cannot fucking understand how taking a month off because of a fucking puppy is acceptable.

Even if it was some lifepartner-tier dog you've known for 20 years, an entire month wouldn't be acceptable.

Reminder Sana didn't stream the first two weeks of November and yet still finished in 4th in total stream time.

>>13853778
Hard to blame Cover. It seems the vast majority of weeb girls with decent English-speaking skills are FOB East Asian/SEA, and the overwhelming majority of those are living in former bong colonies.

>>13854253
At least she gave an actual reason, and one that the majority of people can relate to. Ayame takes two months off "just because".

>>13846255
>3.65%

>Sana tops Council in hours even with the longest break.
You have to be pulling my leg.

>>13846255
Holy shit, she passed 10% we need to stop her before it's too late!!

Sana is the only one from council genuinely enthusiastic about being a streamer. It's some kind of cosmic joke that she gets the least viewers and the most scuffed model.

>>13854440
>cosmic
heh

>>13854440
did you just memory holed muh doggorino died lets goooo 1 month break sana?

>>13854334
How is requiring a month due to the loss of a pet relatable? I lost two grandmas the past year and didn't skip a day of work despite feeling like crap.

>>13846255
C*nnor was right...

If you oshi isn't above 10%, then she hates the job.

>>13854684
>people saying for months that Council is lazy and you get everything handed to you on a silver platter if you're part of Hololive
>suddenly some dumb e-celeb says the same thing
>faggots act like he was the first person to point it out

>>13852334
It's not only about the quantity, it's also how you drink it. If you quickly drink it then drink water, the acid is washed away. If you take a sip from time to time without water after, it will ruin your teeth

>>13854254
Be precise and drop the exact number, its only 10/11 days shes off. She still has substantial amount of 20 days to chase them

>>13854684
Don't bring that faggot into this, any anon with common sense knows that without being a faggot like him.

>>13854639
>ignores the actual point that streamers don't even need to give an excuse to take longer periods of time off
Besides, any half decent workplace is entitled to give you grievance days. Maybe not a month, but if you can't get a couple of days off for a death in the family, you're either a corporate bootlicker or a poor American who is being exploited & likely underpaid to the point that you need the payday.

>>13846255
>Ina did 44 hours
>on top of her priestess duties
She completely sacrificed her social life, didn't she?

>>13846255
I stopped watching Hololive a few months ago and now Mori has OBLITERATED the "muh 5%" rrat
I'm definitely gonna start watching Mori again

>>13854841
They offered me the days to grieve, I'd rather work than to get on a drinking binge due to the sadness.

>>13849100
Ina is in the middle while working way more than usual on the side for a cover MV. She's often in the top streamers in terms of hours, especially when she doesn't have one or two other jobs to do. Just look at the Hollow Knight and Automata weeks

>sana is putting massive hours on each stream
>baelz has always been streaming very frequently
>mumei's been upping her streaming frequency
BUT MY NARRATIVE

>>13847488
>Mumei
sana*

>>13847558
I've never watched a xqc stream but usually, the non-holo streamers that I watch do stream way more, usually 8 hours a day. They don't have singing and dancing lessons of course, but they do have things like uploading to youtube, taking care of the sponsors (or have an agency). I wonder if Holos don't stream that much on purpose because they want the fans to be able to "keep up"

>>13854932
That's somewhere between working one and a half jobs at worst and two half jobs at best. It's not that bad, really.

>>13846746
That's the thing, her jumpcasts are actually pretty good and fun while playing a game on the side. You basically get double the content combined into one which makes it pretty kino. Both split as single stream would be much more dull I think.

>>13855003
Muemei said she is about to cut down on streaming again due to her "duties",

>>13847488
Why are the bottom tier performers in viewership always raking in mad dosh?

>>13850601
>Hell, Ayame quite literally just doesn't stream, EVER, and she still rakes in obscene amounts of money and is one of the most popular Holos.
Ayame does have lots of good collabs, with SENPAITACHI and others, and content with HoloGra. Council doesn't have that

>>13852255
>>13852767
It's one of the reasons why Ina is my favorite. She's always working on something on the side. Mori seems to be the same. I feel like some of them always had a strong work ethic, and will keep it, while the others just coast along. Basically what happens in every successful company. We complain about the idols, but man, think about the fucking management. They must be making a bank for basically no work

>>13855123
She must have some ace up her sleeves because hiring a student that barely streams and receives quite low superchats is just a waste of a spot in Hololive. It made sense when they were a tiny startup and they had to ask random people to join, but those times are long gone. So what's her special sauce that will save the owl?

>>13850601
>And Kronii at least has been honest and up-front about the fact that she despises streaming and doesn't want to do it.

why would she join hololive then?

>>13853778
>>13854276
Can't blame them for the timezone they live in, that's on Cover. I still think it fucking sucks how they've now all reverted to burger-only hours after posting EU friendly schedules in the start

>>13846255
whatcha gonna do, cry about it?

>>13855254
IRyS too has work on the side including her roomie duties, hell you could add kusotori in there as well, though i don't follow what she does in or outside hololive.

>>13854684
People have been saying this since JP gen 5 at least

>>13854932
>social life
What social life? Trying to avoid being seen by her parents on the doorbell camera when she gets food delivered?

>>13855296
Nothing, she got big numbers before and thought she would get bigger numbers like gura now

>>13855296
Not every single Hololive member has to be some kind of ball-busting moneymaker or sub magnet, some will just be naturally less successful than others. That doesn't make them failures or a liability to the company. Remember that even the Holostars are a profit for Cover.

>>13855346
I'm thinking she came to regret it at some point after debut, maybe she plans graduating after her contract is done? Who knows, if she drops hints she could take a big chunk of her audience with her after graduation.

>>13855346
>why wouldn't she take free money

>>13855384
True, I don't follow their content precisely but they seem to be working a lot

>>13846255
Doesn't matter, the sheep fanbase will eat it up and sc more.

>>13855346
What would you rather do? Do you realize how much money for how little time she makes?

>>13854932
>he thinks 44 hours bad

>>13853223
Just watch archives if there's nobody stream at the time. It's not like you can run out of Hololive content to watch anyway.

>>13855431
Are many of the Holostars students that barely put in hours? Is it some kind of hiring pattern across the company or EN exclusive and those two are not comparable at at? I am genuinely curious.

>>13855296
>some ace up her sleeves
She makes Cover more than they invested in her. That's it.

>>13855099
She has at least one other job, and she did lots of work on her MV this month. Ina probably works at least 60 hours a week since her debut

>>13855410
I don't think so, maybe that's all the talent or they could muster after going through hundreds if not thousands of 2view applicants with no talent or huge redflags despite having some promise.

>>13846746
Mori's jump king streams were literally the most entertaining streams from EN this month because we got top tier banter

>>13855547
Kira was sick (he's basically a frail anime boy with keyAIDS irl) and streamed less often than Ayame before he graduated.

>>13855346
Free money.
Maybe she applied as a joke, like Mori.

At least Mori got better. And Kronii is actually worse than debut Mori, which is fucking incredible.

>>13855554
>She makes Cover more than they invested in her. That's it.
This is why they want experienced talents, they dont have to throw money at them for equipment if necessary.
In the case of mumei i suppose they funded the GoXLR or it funded itself through what she made in SC earnings.

>>13855554
>She makes Cover more than they invested in her. That's it.
That's pretty bad considering companies nowadays pull products off the shelves simply because they don't make enough money and they don't want to oversaturate the market with too many mediocre products that you need to pay too many employees for. Generally speaking it's better to keep your portfolio slim but retain a high quality. They surely don't have a shortage of applicants.

>>13846255
Hey Holobros, can you do as Nijifags a fast one and compile Lazulight, Obsydia, and Ethyria's hours as well?

>>13855808
STOP THE COUNT

>>13855779
But the market for cover isn't saturated yet. When it will be, that's when you'll start to see graduations and stuff like that in Hololive

> Generally speaking it's better to keep your portfolio slim but retain a high quality.
No, not when you're in hyper-growth phase, which cover is in. In that case, you don't care about quality or efficiency, just pure numbers

>>13855808
>Lazulight, Obsydia, and Ethyria
Who? I know Sasaki, Lize, Inui. But not those 3

>>13846941
>Kiara carrying HoloEN

What are you on about KFP fag
IrYs has been mogging your oshi and the rest of the myth (except gura) since debut.

Idk who was in charge of hiring the ppl behind council. But man 3 of those council members don't know what the fuck are they doing.

If anyone is saving HoloEN
It's the cunny shark, the Goblina Irys and 5% Calli

>>13846255
What if you cut out all the hours from watchalongs, minecraft, and apex streams?

>>13855854
If that's the case they would be churning out new EN holos like nijiEN, it's clear that they either want scarcity within their enviroment or have a warped quality standard

>>13855854
>you'll start to see graduations and stuff like that in Hololive
That will never happen. You got no fucking clue how any of this works. You can't just graduate people when they stop making money. That's how you destroy the moral in your company and cause a gigantic shitstorm from fans, getting eternally labelled as yet another black company by the very people that invested time, passion and money in you. Imagine having to deal with a Coco fallout every couple of months. The company would be abandoned a year later when their big earners stop renewing contracts because they also started to hate the company. This is also why it's risky to just hire anyone.

>>13855885
Just count tally the stream hours fag, I didn't ask for any snark.

>>13855144
Saviourfags

>>13846669
To be fair, IRyS mogs all of HoloEN in personality and numbers(outside of Gura) despite having a model “debuff”. The latter being why having a good personality counts

>>13856013
They want some scarcity of course, because it's always easier to give a gen to a public asking for it than to try to sell a new gen to a public that doesn't care. They're more conservative than Niji, but they always have been. Niji has always been spray and pray

>>13856026
>You can't just graduate people when they stop making money.
Cover won't be the one graduating them, they will be the one leaving the industry. The absolute majority of graduations of vtubers are either people that found a better deal, or people that quit this stuff because they're not popular enough. If tomorrow Cover loses 95% of its viewership, graduation because of lack of popularity will happen. What I'm saying is that people like Ayame can exist because Cover makes money simply by existing now. All Holos like each others because there's money for everyone. If tomorrow they don't have as much money, there will probably be some resentment between the different holos. Coco quit because of that, though it wasn't for a lack of money, but for a lack of opportunities

>>13855922
Why are KFP like this

>>13846255
retards blaming council for slacking off when it was KIARA who sabotaged council into making them think that it's ok to be more lax and be protective of their "mental health"

>>13849302
Irys loves streaming unlike most of Holo En

>>13846255
Between the five of them, only two didn't squander their debut buff
>Kronii(i hate streaming so much i built an entire base in minecraft barely streaming any of it)
>Mumei(i'ma start college 3 weeks after my debut and give up on afternoon streams)
>Sana(Let me not draw anything, do astrology streams and disappear for 1 month)
Fauna and Bae have been have been stable, but it feels a bit hollow when you look at the streaming hours that they'd settle for that

>>13846746
clear bait from a nousagi who watched pekora play it too

>>13856415
this is why i only watch fauna and bae in council. They seem like the only 2 that care about streaming in council and invest time and money for their fans

>>13850601
Well, I can say for sure Bae loves streaming and would stream more but was made to stream less due to classes IRL and management recommending she takes time off. She went hard and needed a break.

>>13851979
It's just his way of doing zetsus and talking about whatever it is he feels like while having something to watch. It's too bad that half of what he says flies over my head, especially when he starts to nerd out about anime, manga and Touhou

>>13856219
>They aren't even trying because they think they can be out of business any second
Meds. Quick.

>>13856298
sucks to suck but blame the game not the player. council's fault for thinking myth is their friend. that's what you get naive unitytards

what the fuck is this thread, does anyone here actually double check random claims or do they just swallow it all?

>>13856882

>>13856882
Get out of this thread.

>>13856917
fair enough

>>13846941
>kiara carrying EN
actually kek'd out loud

If you wanted to make a bait thread using my pic, at least update it for all of November

>>13846941
the only thing Kiara is carrying is herself.

>>13856957
Not a whole lot of difference, but still OP is a faggot.

>>13856957
Ame can't be that low, i know she has taken most of the month off, but she still should have more hours than that. she has multiple days where she streamed multiple times in the day

>>13857290
Her streams aren't that long, mostly 1-2 hours, the longest is 3h 9m for SC reading

>>13856733
Who are you quoting?

>>13856957
>Kronii's numbers didn't even grow
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

>>13856957
>The best council member streams the least.

>>13857448
I only count the channels, so even though Kronii collabed on other channels after the OP pic, I didn't add them

>>13855808
Too lazy to do LazuLight and Obsydia right now but here is Ethyria. They definitely did stream more than most of HoloEN on average.

>>13855808

I'm doing it manually because I'm away from my PC, but Elira has streamed 115.3 hours this month. She has single-handedly streamed about 50% of all of Council combined.

>>13846255
This is a new form of numberfagging, we'll call it hourfagging.

>>13856882
>he wasn’t here for the thread where everyone took a screencap about ninisanji requiring collab fees at face value and no one clicked on the source link

>>13854253
It WAS a life partner she'd known her entire life. I agree though, but I'm mad at the game itself for even allowing that.

All the struggle for Hololive is just getting in the door. Once you're in, you've got it made...unless you're Aloe

>>13852767
Anon, you're welcome to like or dislike whatever you want, but this entire post is you attempting to justify to yourself and us that you don't like Hololive due to a lack of effort or quality. The truth is you wanted to root for the underdog, find a gem in the rough, and now that it's not what Hololive is about you feel like you lost something special im the process. I feel you, the bullshit justifications afterward aren't even necessary and are you grasping at straws.

>>13858060
>Once you're in, you've got it made...unless you're Aloe
What are you talking about? She's doing an Ayame and still has plenty of people on her fanbox giving her money

>>13855296
The owl has the highest average and median viewership of Council this month. She's basically on top of her gen now.

>>13857524
The owl streamed the second most though.

>>13854932
>Ina
>Social life
Pick one. She's pretty much the most introverted EN member.

>>13857634
I'm making a graph, can you give me exact numbers? That would speed it up a lot.

>>13857634
to be honest they NEED to stream a lot just to cathc up to council
they are going to get burned out tough.

>>13858596
You can have a social life and be introverted. Ina's also a hikki, which doesn't help

>>13858726
There's no such thing as "catching up" to Council. Nobody will be as successful as them no matter how many hours they stream. The best NijiEN can do is try not to be overtaken by the smaller agencies like Prism and Tsunderia.

>>13846255
I don't dislike the girls but with the nip girls in comparison it does seem ridiculous.
Don't NA mock the work ethic of Mexicans and the like?
I know Kiara is a German but maybe it really is a cultural lazyness type of thing.
Botan has been playing a ton of that shitty Konami baseball game, how much you think a grown woman really enjoys a baseball video game?

touch grass, schizos

>>13856957
Mori (forma de 16%)
She's become too powerful.

>>13858726
they probably make more in SC than council anon.

>>13858963
You too anon.

>>13846255
What is Counil

>>13858882
Amerimutts are second only to Japs in the severity of their wageslave kill-yourself-for-your-boss culture. So no, that's not the issue, the issue is that Council hates streaming.

At least Ina has a job and Ame USED to stream a fuck-ton before the burn-out happened.
Gura never had an excuse and people have always called her lazy. Then Council came and was an entire gen of Gura-tier lazyfucks

>>13859015
I wouldn't call a fanbase comprised by kids "powerful".

>>13859065
How many hours do mutts work in comparison to their souther neighbor spickland?
Thought burgers worked way less than spics in their respective countries.

>>13856957
The main differences here are that Mori has gone over 15% (may god have mercy on us all), and the “Mumei doesn’t stream” rrat is dead and buried.
>>13855296
She said she was interested in doing rebroadcasts and prerecorded content to make up the difference this month, with the sugar rush karaoke being rebroadcast today. Also, she’s got the second highest sub growth in EN (second highest company-wide excluding Gen 6), and pulls in the most memberships in Council, so she’s definitely got enough going to be worth the investment. There’s also the idea of denying the competition a potential high-value hire.

>>13856415
>Sana was away for 10 days in November and still got more hours in this month than ALL of Council:
>>13856957
>She does drawing streams for members
>This month she also got the highest average stream duration in ALL of EN
>>13856957
Just look at the hours she's put in since coming back: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsUj0dszADCGbF3gNrQEuSQ/videos

Sana is underrated as fuck and everyone here talks shit about her with old data.

>>13855384
Its because they already have a routine where they have to employ time management skills, so having to do more work (streaming) is simple for them because they just have to allocate time for it. The others have been NEETs for too long and have poor time management skills so the idea of a daily routine is alien to them.

if stream duration/frequency was the metric to gauge how amazing a chuuba is, then watame would mog every chuuba in existence

>>13859912
Sana has to make up for the massive damage she did to her self with the month long break.
I wouldn't praise her for that, but i respect her efforts.

>>13860074
Trying to catch up to watame is quite the tall order.

>>13860082
I don't think it's a conscious effort to recover from her break. She just really really likes Pokemon.

>>13860276
Fair enough, i don't have anything against her anyway.

>>13859065
Pretty solid bait, well done.

>>13855467
Watamates have nothing to do with this

>>13854639
>being proud of being a wagie

>>13846255
Sananana took 3 weeks off due to her dog dying and still is mogging the fuck out of the rest of the council

that's fucking embarrassing.

>>13856415
Bae has mentioned since October that November will be a slow month for her. Given that info look at all the streams she has done this month. The rat loves to stream and supposedly December is when the limiter comes off

The rrats and schizos in this thread have made me appreciate my oshi more.

>>13861569
Sanananana the true queen.

>>13856177
>and numbers(outside of Gura)
No she doesn't?

>Sana sitting on 243k subs
>Aloe has 237k subs
that dog dragged Sana's momentum along with him when it died

>>13846255
Sana puts the most effort in but still struggles
We truly live in a society

>>13870172
effort and hard work guaranteeing success is one of the kindest lies you can believe in.

>>13870990
Nah, this shit just leaves you bitter and resentful.
Managing your time efficiently is the answer.
And yes, some people do manage their time thousands of time more efficiently by not spending it on coomer entertainment and wagey-cageys.

>Amourant is a hardworking girl that put out a lot of hours streamed, she deserves all her success

find the wrong things in this comment

>Mori broke out of her shell to give example for her juniors
>They're still lazy as fuck
Council is a fucking mistake

>>13872646
>Breaks up with Kiara
>Starts doing her own content.
>Numbers skyrockets
Calli is surprisingly smarter than she seems.

Holo EN gen 3 can't come out soon enough and this time Cover should not ask the existing talent for any referrals

>>13872646
That's not a thing, anon.

>>13867470
Based.

>>13846255
Damn, they can't even stream more than an anemic, flu-ridden shark with family issues? Council is really taking this gig for granted.

>>13846255
yikes

>>13874750
>shark with family issues
I don't watch much of Gura, what family issues?