/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>13830617
>>She couldn't be bothered to take ten fucking minutes fix Cortana during her 10 day break, fucking up her first solo stream after her return - a member stream.
But this was a great moment at least. She dropped the kayfabe for a while and it was pretty funny.

I don't know about any of that, but the few times I've watched her she always sounds like she's completely stoned to me.

Kronii is just a karmic punishment on people who got led away from Mori

Cortana is a bitch to deal with on Windows 11. Actually, all of Windows 11 is a pain in the ass to deal with.

whatever she's doing, it's making you seethe, so i think she should keep it up

Chronic depression. Maybe I'm misremembering, but it does feel like she's just powered down now compared to debut. She had no presence at all in the Splatoon collab.
Probably going to get worse as we get into Christmas.

wait so you werent getting enough (You)s on the general so you made a saperate bait thread? Kill yourself.

>>13830617
she prob heard that getting into hololive will help her make big money. She got in and she certainly did. But she realized that being a corpo slave is not her thing and has completely checked out.

>>13830617
how long until graduation?

>>13830617
>waste of talent
>lacks passion

thats kronii for you

>>13830617
I liked her 'sarcastic bitch' affect for a while but as time has gone on it just gets more and more cringe as she parrots ancient memes and references.
I genuinely unironically lack critical information but I suspect she's some 30-something old /b/tard roastie who grew out of her edgy phase but then hopped on the chuuba bandwagon. Like Nyanners, but with a stronger sense of denying where she came from.

>>13831246
what if she's just busy spending her newfound holo money on things? cosmetics, furniture, expensive clothes.

>>13831031
>Chronic depression.
I suspect it's manic depression. She probably auditioned for Hololive during an extremely motivated happy phase but now she's in a depressed phase which kills her motivation and causes her to regret becoming a vtuber.

>>13830971
Kronii should have just gotten one of the new macs.

say hi to the new top dog of council!

>>13831366
never. if this keeps up, she'll slowly evolve into EN ayame

Gura killer

I'm pretty sure it's a case of too much money too fast. This might be strange to think of, but there are in fact this type of people in this world, people who come from low-to-mid level of wealth who get absolutely scared when they are successful and raking in the dough.

It's also possible that having the most subscriber in her gen brought some unwanted pressure. It really isn't that much when compared to Myth, but when you consider her previous incarnation, that kind of number is kinda insane in comparison.

>>13831888
>new
She's always been the top dog. The cinnamon roll of a given generation always wins barring the energetic/loud/obnoxious one taking the mantle, and even that skips generations (Bae was always gonna be a second-fiddle to Ollie because there wasn't enough separation; note how Haachama -> Pekora -> Polka skipped generations)

>>13832146
>energetic
>rabbit
This has to be fucking bait, she only became wacky and zany later. Marine is LITERALLY in the same gen and fits your stupid fucking description 1000X better.

Too long; didn't read

>>13832146
take meds

Give her time, she'll truly be Mori 2.0

She'll get better at streaming, managing time, scheduling, and this board will come to like her, and her haters will keep finding ways to shit on her regardless. It's like pottery.

>>13830995
This.

ITT retards seething at a chuuba they don't watch

>>13832623
I watch Kronii exclusively and still seethe at her, your point?

>>13832670
says a lot that there's no perceptible difference between people who never watch her and people who always watch her

>>13832566
Anyone who unironically thinks Mori and Kronii are of the same ilk are retarded. Mori has always been hardworking, at the very least. Her biggest issues in the beginning were that she tried too hard to be something she wasn’t and it came off as cringe, and that she had trouble maintaining balance between vtubing and her other jobs. Kronii just has no motivation for anything. No drive or ambition to be spoken of. She’s content to stream a few times a week and be done with it. It’s not the biggest offense in the world but some people seem to have expected something greater from her.

>>13830617
I thought is quite obvious the cortana incident was planned by her for the joke and also clipping material...

>>13832801
>expected something greater from her
Yeah, they expected LE NUMBERS so that they could shit up the board with countless "MOGGED EVERYONE"/ "GOORUH KILLER" threads. Just a reminder to some brainless fags out there: chuubas are putting out content and numbers are not content. If you dislike chuubas content - move on to another.

>>13830617
She's doing it on purpose. She doesn't want to be popular. I thought she made this obvious by now. She's trying to filter as many people as possible so she can have small, comfy streams.

>>13832909
Even if it was planned, doing it during a sponsored stream is a horrible idea. People ended up talking more about Cortana instead

Don't worry OP, you'll move onto posting better bait one day.

>>13832801
>Mori
>Tried too hard
>Nodding off during Coco's Meme Review
Fuck that bitch, fuck her fans, and fuck you.
Even if they weren't that funny, at least show respect for the person that made your branch possible.

>>13831031
>>13831647
How can someone depressed get deep into games like she does?

>>13833456
Yes, it's a way to cope.

>>13832146
No Kronii has always been the ace of EN2

>>13830617
>generic shit since day 1
>mogging anyone in the generics

LOL

>>13832996
>She doesn't want to be popular.
Why the FUCK did she join Hololive instead of NijiEN then? She had the chance to help Hololive grow and instead she fucks it up and decides to skate by on brand power and what the people before her built up.

Eh, still better than Mori

>>13833439
Stay mad, lol

>>13833439
She didn’t laugh much but implying she fell asleep is bullshit. The most respectful thing you can do is be yourself, fake laughing might have made for a less obviously nervous air but it wouldn’t have made for a more genuine interaction. It was especially obvious by the hot mic at the end of the stream that both of them were trying their best and that she was just nervous. I cannot fathom Coco fans getting pissy about that when plenty of other JP members didn’t laugh much at the meme review either, and as Coco fans they should be aware of that and not blame it on Mori but on reddit memes for being the lowest rung of entertainment. Trying to paint it as though Mori doesn’t respect Coco, with all the times she’s mentioned her and spoke of her admiration of her, is retarded.

>>13833595
>She had the chancd to help Hololive grow
All must serve the Corporation. Every action and decision must be done in service of the Corporation. Won't anyone please think of the poor suffering Corporation?

Kronii is shit. Not 0 or 1.

>>13833439
Five whole months since that collab and you're still seething. Touch grass.

>>13830617
If Kronii had even just as much passion for what she does as Fauna she'd already be over 800k subs.
She simply doesn't give a fuck about hololive, streaming, games, or her fans, and it shows

kronii is a product of the left woke agenda, she can't take a joke, she is a lazy commie who doesn't want to work, everything is offensive, "nonbianary", all of this in the sanitized vtuber waters, imagine if she was a cam streamer without the avatar, a person like her doesn't work for this

Why would you even bother trying if all you have to do is show up for three hours a week and get showered in praise and superchats?
EN work ethic and culture is at an all time low.

>>13830617
Funnily enough I did notice that her chat is a million times better these days.

>>13830913
she has been caught smoking something a few times

>>13830617
long

anyone who posts anything longer than 2 sentences on vt should be forced to print it out and show it to their parents

>>13834179
*Council work ethic and culture is at an all time low.

>>13832003
So a regular case of the imposter syndrome?

>>she is a lazy commie who doesn't want to work
ding ding ding

>>13834387
Do it.

>>13834387
Joke's on you, my parents don't know English and are both hoshiyomis, if I showed them this board they'd go "oh you're talking about hololive with your online friends, good for you"

>>13834279
Proof?

>>13832003
The more popularity does come with more expectation from fans with each stream...

>>13832670
What a sad way to live...

>>13830756
South East Asians don't understand jokes. DWAI.

>>13830617
Imposter syndrome

>dont get (you) on global
>probably didnt get them on infinity either
>make a separate thread

>>13831482
>30-something old /b/tard roastie
Absolutely disgusting.

>>13834684
Next thread.

>>13832801
I shit all over Mori at every opportunity but even I’ll admit she’s hardworking and has improved as a streamer. Also her roommate has big tits. That’s all you’re getting out of me though.

>>13833439
>Reddit review fans are Mori antis
Checks out.

>>13834742
Global hasn't made up a majority of the board's activity for a while. It's no longer all that important.

>>13834392
I'm amazed how the numberfags do stuff that I do for work as a hobby.

>>13834392
>Calli and IRyS hard carrying EN
Sounds about right

>>13832996
Sana literally has everything Kronii craves:
>Small and chill fanbase she can banter with
>Nene energy and Korone-level stream durations
>Sanallites are financially and creatively very supportive of her
>No expectations because you're seen as a complete failure anyway
>Like Kronii she purposely filters and even admitted it on stream
>Blessed fetish fanart
>Extroverted and naturally confident
>Fanbase couldn't care less about numbers (obviously) and simply just want to have fun with their oshi
>Ignored by Reddit
>Can interact with chat and has a very supportive papa
>Sanallites are based for recently kicking out a cringe faggot ruining it for everyone
>Can speak Japanese well enough to collab solo which opens up many opportunities, let alone the aligned timezones making things easier to arrange

Sana and Bae are both thriving in their own ways. Aussies are superior vtubers. Sara and Luto are also based. Fuck NA whores.

>>13830617
>she clearly is a gamer, and yet she has never shown any effort to actually play well on streams.
based desu

>>13837879
Being gamer is not equivalent to playing well/being good at games sadly. It just means you play games alot.

>>13836884
autism works in mysterious ways

>>13837826
>Sanallites are based for recently kicking out a cringe faggot ruining it for everyone
Can I have a qrd on this?

She's boring. The whole "has the potential to mog everyone" thing is so overplayed it's unreal. You can't fix having a poor personality and zero enthusiasm.

>>13830617
Bro she's so cool and apathetic bro, don't you get it?

>>13830617
The Kroniik is dulling her sharp edge

>>13831482
>Like Nyanners
IIRC, Kronii hasn't publicly condemned her entire fanbase by calling them child molesters while running off with their "child molester money" anyway. Nyanners is the highest tier of JUST, and chubas shouldn't be compared to pink bad so casually.

Kronii's problem is more that she's either faking it, or she has unresolved mental health issues that she, like all self respecting adults, is not trying to solve because everyone knows society doesn't actually give a shit about or have any solutions to real existential human suffering. That's the sort of thing a person can only ever really patch up through soul searching and finding contentment in life.

>>13838413
A user named Blackstar incessantly posted obnoxious and cringe SCs, to the point where everyone was uncomfortably waiting for the next one during her streams. Sana too was struggling to humor the messages and react to his creepy comments. I'm not in the discord but I think he was irritating everyone there too and complaining about the recent stream durations, forcing himself to watch them all. The fanbase started to pull him up on his attention seeking shit to which he responded badly and showed no sign of improvement. Some Sanallites eventually snapped and turned on him and I believe he's not active in the community anymore. He's not a bad person, just someone who got too caught up in a notoriously chilled community that has little patience for that kind of shit.

>>13830617
She makes bank with very little effort. When she's actually streaming she comes off as an unfunny idiot but from a business standpoint she's living the life.

Kronii is still trying to get over having to stream for a (mostly) male audience that treats her avatar as a sex object. I bet she talks about it a lot with her nonbinary friends, and I bet the word "patriarchy" is being thrown around left and right.

>>13842969
Kek.

>>13833456
Because games distract from the depression Anon. Ask /v/. They'll tell you.

>>13842969
seems plausible, I mean given her reaction when she was asked something in a QnA/AmA before

>>13837826
Agreed with this for the most part, except for all the NA girls being whores

Also Bae has been like a hidden gem in Council I feel like. If she did any of her recent content during the first 2 weeks of her debut she'd be extremely popular right now. Instead because Bae had a slow start, she was able to cultivate a very chill fanbase. Bae has been improving herself at a steady pace and the Baeblades are reaping the benefit.

>>13843727
>tfw hated bae at the start but forced myself to keep watching her because i KNEW the moment she dropped that persona she was playing she'd be great
>was right
Im a genius

>>13843269
During the first superchat reading ever, she didnt want to read the part where a guy said that he fell in love with her.

>>13842969
>Avatar
This is from a fatefag, it isn't even that great. It's her voice that is carrying her.

>>13834742
at infinity, we just diagnose OP with schizophrenia and move on with our day.

>>13831366
Probably soon, her roomate is fucking mess, she wants to be a man. Used to say she isn't a women.

>>13831482
She's a depressed tumblr lesbian who might go the ftm tranny route. She used to day she isn't a women shes non binary in her old streams. All her friends are alphabet freaks, this trash hobby attracts the most broken type of women.

>>13845142
>Kronii
>lesbian
Anon... I'm sorry to tell you that she sucking into cock.

>>13840246
any examples of his SCs?

>>13845294
Anon almost all her circle of friends is either lgbt shit, her gf is some butch lesbian.

>>13830617
Her boyfriend is possessive and jealous and berates her accomplishments when she started becoming popular, dashing her motivation.

>>13830617
My rrat is that she got scared of all the attention and the popularity.

>>13845588
I would never

>>13845495
>>13845588
>her gf
>her boyfriend
which is it, /vt/?

>>13845588
Completely false, I shower her with compliments and love

>>13834392
Holy SHIT I hate Council so fucking much, but Kronii has to be the worst.
HOW do you manage to be even lazier than Gura? HOW?

>>13845683
The one that makes your narrative true

>>13845897
sweet let’s goooooo

>>13845683
I do roomate searching (noo secret knowledge blah blah)
Here are some facts about her.
Circle of friends is majority LGBT
Her gf is very likely some butch lesbian (there are pics out there)
Depressed
Failed voice actress
Has acted in lesbian VNs
Once said she was non binary in an old stream (Previous personality, not Kronii)
Friends are hard SJWs twitter people (a fair amount of EN are pretty hard SJWs behind the scenes, especially Mori who is really into pushing tranny shit for some reason even tho she's one of thew few straight EN holos)

>>13845986
>especially Mori who is really into pushing tranny shit for some reason even tho she's one of thew few straight EN holos
It's because she's white.

>>13845986
BENIS :DDDDD

>>13846099
Well....yeah, white women tend to be SJWs.

>>13845986
Graduation when?

>>13845986
>>13845495
I buy this. The way she reluctantly makes jokes she knows comes from 4chan, then awkwardly walks back on them, it's textbook of someone in an lib group who wants to be edgy without stepping on anybody's toes. You see this repressed manner all of speech all the time on left-leaning gaming forums, it's so they can backtrack as soon as someone gets upset. The self-deprecation is a big giveaway too.
Also constantly dropping trigger warnings and condescendingly blanking the screen in case photosensitive people are too stupid to turn off their screen after 10 warnings, all staples of someone whose friends have beaten more worry than sense into them.
Kind of sucks, it's a very insidious type of toxicity and explains why her confidence just disappears, but she'll never realize that she needs to drop those friends because she's "one of the good guys" by adopting their ways, when all they're doing is making her bear the weight of their insecurities for them.

>>13846659
I can save her...

>>13845986
>Her gf
Owari...da...

>>13830617
>She had the potential to absolutely mog everyone
How?
She's the quintessential jack of all trades.

>>13846832
her fans already unintentionally converting her.

>>13845986
Did you get banned buddy? pls respond

>>13846659
This is a surprisingly good take. Kronii does say some woke references every now and then. I remember even Gura was caught off guard by this once and didn't know how to respond.
Kronii needs a new set of friends to lean on in Hololive. Sana already has Ina pre-HL. Bae has Mori and IRyS. Fauna is fine because she isn't menhera. Mumei is being protected by the rest of Council. But no one is protecting our precious clock.

I dunno about you guys but this girl sounds like a gay retard

>>13845986
>especially Mori
She has very much SJW views but the only thing she did that’s constantly made out to be ‘pushing tranny shit’ was cover a very popular Japanese song that possibly touches on the topic

>>13847542
>even Gura was caught off guard by this once
context?

>>13847542
Gura would be a good fix, she's become less insecure about how she should behave on stream and focuses on having a laugh. If they spent enough time together Kronii would realize her IRL friends aren't as much fun and it's probably because she doesn't feel pressured not to accidentally insult someone's fifth new identity.
Or she opens up to Gura and Gura starts worrying over the same thing Kronii does because she's impressionable.

>>13830617
Kroni went from being my favorite and her chemistry with Gura to not caring about her anymore so fucking fast. And she indeed had huge potential and mass appeal across the board. Just from looking at the chat you can see people talking in Spanish, Japanese and even Korean... In fact when she did those singing streams at least half the chat were Koreans.

>>13849041
Her new streaming times filtered me, but I find it funny that people thought Sana would be killed by her break, but came back stronger than ever, meanwhile Kronii is struggling to hit the same momentum she used to have.

>>13831031
>>13831647
Depressive episodes are supposed to last in the range of months, right?

>>13849041
nice seeing you here potentialschizo

>>13845986
Mori's case feels more like she got unintentionally groomed into pseudo-nonbinary presenting "It's ya boi/Fishing with your dad" because her music tastes and aspirations led her into a music scene dominated by males and a female-objectifying culture, so that part of her way into getting respect was hiding as much of her female-ness as possible - baggy hood rat clothes and tomboy affectations. This on top of other possible trauma from growing up as a girl in poor neighborhoods while also having huge tits that draw all the wrong attention. So she leans into LGBT culture in spite of not necessarily actually fitting into any of the alphabet letters.

>>13846659
>Also constantly dropping trigger warnings and condescendingly blanking the screen in case photosensitive people are too stupid to turn off their screen after 10 warnings, all staples of someone whose friends have beaten more worry than sense into them.

This really is such a huge dogwhistle

>>13849821
Japan did her a world of good, if she was in America she'd be dragged down into the drudgery of political drama, instead she's spent years surrounded by dead-eyed coworkers who don't rock the boat.

>>13833744
If you don't want an audience of 10,000 in your stream you can join a small corpo for much less effort and get viewerships of 50-300.

>>13830617
She appealed to the redditors. Imagine having to deal with shit like this nonstop forever.

>>13845364
Posting them gets a ban. x_x

>>13833595
Hell no. NijiEN doomer girl is actually funny.

>>13839833
>calling them child molesters while running off with their "child molester money" anyway
wtf I love nyanners now!

You negroes need to take your meds and realize most (if not all) EN girls are some type or other of "progressive" and pretending like it isn't the case because of cognitive dissonance or brand loyalty makes you look crazy.
Either make peace with this fact or stop engaging at all.

She has a nice voice, but deep down, she's a really boring person.

>>13852024
Never heard of Baelz, Kiara, Gura, Ina or IRyS backing any strong political things and most of them babble too much not to have let something slip.
Maybe Ina hates the overworking culture in Japan, but it sounds like any 9 to 5 job would be overwork for her.

The roommate SJW issues only rile up a bunch of 4chan wojaks. Viewers won’t care whether Kronii’s into it or not if she doesn’t let it affect her stream, which she surprisingly has been able to manage.

What filtered the viewers and stunted her growth is her obvious laziness, in not even spending FIVE MINUTES to do the absolute MINIMUM preparations needed for her streaming career.

How hard is it to turn on her streaming computer ONCE before stream to check for her save file?
How hard is it to test her streaming setup for ONE round before a stream to not have Cortana fuckups?
Just how hard is it to purchase a downloaded copy of pokemon and benefit from the rising tide by streaming hile it’s in vogue?

She just doesn’t care, and the viewers are now starting to realize this as well. No sane human will invest their time and attention when Kronii is showing a complete lack of investment in her content either.

>>13852515
She's really bad to just roll with it, telling a story or making some actual jokes to distract people instead of sounding distressed as fuck on stream.
But this counts as part of her laziness I guess, her zatsudan and SC reading streams used to be atrocious too so it's not surprising.

>>13852341
>IRyS
Anon... Kronii and IRyS have the same twitter rrats. Not similar, the same rrats.

>>13852989
First I've heard of it, but the only irys talk here are from coomers

The problem is that there is simply no incentive to try hard.
It doesn't affect popularity or even SC income whether she streams 50 hours or 5 per week.

As long as things like Ayame are possible this will never change and the "hard workers" will become exceedingly rare because they realize there is simply no reward for it. Even Myth stopped tryharding (Ame gave up completely on streaming a lot, Kiara started taking a second break day every week etc.)


In regards to Kronii, she has openly said she doesn't like streaming.

>>13852515
the cortana shit was funny tho
the benefit of streaming pokemon later is that she won't have to compete as much with other ongoing pokemon streams but yea no excuse for the save file stuff

>>13853255
>In regards to Kronii, she has openly said she doesn't like streaming.
Huh, really? First time I've heard of it. Timestamp?

>>13853295
didn't she say the save file being lost was due to her changing her pc? i guess that can count for something

>>13853305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AccVPjYm2Y0

>>13853354
i know she's not good at tech stuff but like...she didn't bother to take advice from anyone else and just got depressed about it. she could mount her old hdd and recover the local files unless she wiped that hdd then RIP

>>13853184
>>10062114

>>13853365
Kek, this doesn't really fit your narrative tho?

>>13853557
Braindamaged retard
>I play minecraft off-stream because I just wanna game in peace and streaming is annoying to me because I have to keep talking with you fatfuck m*les in the audience
>soooo just deal with the fact that you're never gonna see me stream, haha

>>13834392
>The two EN living in JP are putting in JP-like hours
Really makes the noggin rumble

>>13830617
>not a single anon bullying this atrocious attempt at greentext
I'd bet the lives of all your oshis that over 80% of /vt/ is post-2014.

>>13853799
But /vt/ didn't exist in 2014

>>13853642
“Cums on you*

>>13853354
Steam backups save games by default. Was she playing a pirated copy?

>>13831888
Digits confirm

>>13853642
Kek, idk how you inferred this from that but it's clear that you're the braindamaged retard here, not me

>>13853970
based if true

>>13853799
t. December 2013 anon

>>13845039
Wanting to give up life on easy mode. I will never understand ftm

>>13849549
Yes, and are usually seasonal. Now that it’s winter Kronii is off. Wait for spring, she may become the sleeper Gura killer.

>>13854004
>noooo trust me she doesn't hate streaming, despite talking about how it's soooo taxing to have to talk to people and how she'd rather just sologame despite KNOWING she is depriving her fanbase of content, because.... S-SHE JUST DOESN'T HATE IT OKAY!!

Ive never watched Kronii, but i know she has the highest number of subs on Hololive en gen 2. You know why? People who still watch hololive are mostly teenagers and young men, in this age its cool to "NOT CARE".
>haha bro i dont care, chase me
Her value went to the moon when viewers realised she dont care and can graduate at any moment

>>13853642
>NNNOOOOO YOU CANNOT HAVE DAYS OFF NNNOOOOO YOU CANNOT PLAY GAMES ON YOUR OWN YOU ARE MY PERSONAL PROPERTY NNNOOOOOO
it's your choice to seethe, but she literally does nothing wrong and nothing that would be forbidden by Cover

>>13853799
Sorry, grandpa. I couldn't get through the first few lines without noticing the op is a faggot redditor.

>>13853904
it did on /jp/

>>13842969
>Kronii is nonbinary
Second time I've heard this rrat. Got sauce?

>>13854297
imagine taking days off because your job is to play retarded games
How stresful right? Oh noooo her brain...
Retard

>>13854463
not in 2014

>>13854607
Why are chumbuds like this?

>>13854004
Anon, it was his supa...

>>13854607
It doesn't matter why she's taking days off you brainlet. Wouldn't you take days off if you legally could?

>>13854575
man voice

>>13830617
human beings are worth more than whatever you think you care about. numbers don't actually matter. you've bought into a lie.

>>13853799
fucking gamer gate tourists

>>13855090
That was literally the point in >>13853255 you 1-digit IQ cockroach. There's no reason why they should bother streaming because it doesn't affect their income or popularity anyway.

Kronii's just being rational. But don't pretend like she actually gives a shit about her fanbase or enjoys streaming. She clearly doesn't and is just there to collect the paycheck.

>>13853799
i did not read a fucking word of it because it's a 5000 word post written on 4chan. retard

>>13855230
>But don't pretend like she actually gives a shit about her fanbase or enjoys streaming. She clearly doesn't and is just there to collect the paycheck.
I simply do not imply anything because I cannot know that for sure, you retarded fucking nigger. Your view on the situation is just as subjective as mine. Don't pretend like you're some smartass bitch on this basket-weaving forum.

>>13855230
Your narrative is collapsing, she clearly enjoys what she’s doing and after coming back said she misses doing streams and is glad to be back. You lost

>>13852341
>Kiara
I've heard Kiara's roomate was pretty politcal before her debut, then went and deleted all her shit once she got into hololive. A lot of /pol/tards used to seethe because she allegedly supported BLM in early 2020.

>>13852024
This. They're millennial women. The odds of them not being some flavor of progressive are astronomically low, so unless proven otherwise, assume the worst. There might be one or two exceptions (Ame's roomate supposedly voted for Johnson in 2016) but the exceptions prove the rule.

>>13855474
>because I cannot know that for sure
You can because she explicitly talked about how annoying she finds streaming, retard.

>>13845986
>very likely
>but theres pics
>I dont know though
tell me youre retarded without saying youre retarded
theres literally no info about dating anywhere

>>13853498
Reads like pic related, but I'll believe it. Doesn't let the typical detractors of an lgbt enthusiast detract from her content so it's just Nice.
>>13855509
Of everyone out there Kiara is definitely the sort to hop onto whatever was trending without really having a hard stance beyond the basics. I mean she bought into bitcoin just because it was trending, didn't even have a clue of the issues or why it was controversial to bring up.

>>13855485

>she misses doing streams and is glad to be back.

And you believe her?

>>13853498
How the fuck do all this all anime fandom egirls end up knowing each other and also end up bi/lesbian. Is all of vtubing just a dyke cult.

>>13830617
>potential
isn't this the same concernfagging as how my parents nag me constantly about how I could've easily landed a 6 figure job if I really applied myself in collage? If so doesn't that mean literally all of council could of mogged myth if only they tried?
I'll give Kronii maybe a month to see improvements but she's going nowhere fast and I can't be bothered to keep up with this failed gen.

>>13830617

>>13855821
You keep bringing that shit up but you made it up yourself, schizo. "I wanna play in my own spare time" does not fucking equal "I hate streaming", holy shit take your meds you deranged faggot

>>13856102
Nepotism isn't a meme.

Is this a new low for /vt/?

>>13856370
yeah nobody has ever made a thread dragging some random chuuba through the dirt where 9/10 of the posters havent watched a stream past debut week

>>13856221
>I'll give Kronii maybe a month to see improvements but she's going nowhere fast and I can't be bothered to keep up with this failed gen.
Just stop there man. You clearly don't enjoy what they are doing, why force yourself to watch waiting for improvements? To come back here and seethe about "MUH LOST POTENTIAL"? Just move on, find chuubas you actually enjoy watching, stop "reviewing" chuubas and ENJOY them

>>13830617
>diablo 2
>indie game
What? Thats where i atipped reading, because i realized every word you typed was schizo bullshit

>>13856464
>/vt/ posters
>enjoying things
unfortunately mutually exclusive it seems

Only 4chan retards care about whatever politics Kronii has - viewers don’t give a shit as long as she doesn’t pollute her streams, which she fortunately has not so far.

What matters is how clearly she has completely slacked off al her streams. This goes beyond her solo streams and also impacts all collabs she has been part of. She was latest to all but 2 of the council meetings. She literally overslept her first solo collab with Fauna. She was completely disengaged during her sponsor stream collab with Bae that Bae was so awkward trying to feign interest for two players.

Keonii’s obvious laziness debuffed not only her own growth but has also made many collabs just unpleasant.

Oshis of other talents will also to be pissed off that Kronii is wasting their time. It’s natural human response.

You're overthinking it m8
she's just boring - simple as

>>13856552
The orcas debut unironically had more fuckups then you mention here. Take your meds

>>13852515
>>13853255
>>13856552
OP, you unironically need to touch grass. If Kronii makes you seethe this much, just move on and find some other chuuba you would enjoy instead.

Every time I visit these drama threads, almost every single post screams newfag. It’s like the most forced drama over things that nobody cares about. At least do that in generals so you can fuck with some anons. Now that is funny

>>13833456
Dumbest question I've seen on this board. Being depressed sucks so you distract your brain so you don't have to think about it

>>13852515
>>13856552
why did you make the same post twice retard

>>13856464
A lot of holos improve massively after a few months, what's wrong with wanting them to improve?

>>13856674
they do this because they don't get those (You)s in their respective generals

>>13856674
the average /vt/ poster thinks "watch streams" and "do your reps" means "parrot whatever half-baked rrat you saw a couple days ago and infer nonsense from clips to argue with people who you hope have done as little research as you"

>>13856687
jesas

>>13834149
Kronii can't take a joke? Are you stupid? Rage all you want at her flirting with being non-binary (which she may very well be, I don't know) but she's never come across as an "omg i'm so offended" type.

>>13833744
Maybe think of the 6th applicant instead? It might have been someone who would have risen to the challenge instead of fucking around

>>13849821
Mori eternally malding over Cupcakke. How can Mori compete when Cupcakke has hits such as Vagina, Deepthroat and Squidward Nose.

>>13853295
No one is going to watch the 50th Pokémon play through especially not be someone who sounds as depressed as kronii. The game is boring enough as is

>>13856684
what youre describing is being a moody little teenage shithead, not depression

>>13856916
She's too dead inside to have that type of reaction.

>>13857046
think of my ass and balls and how hairy they are instead, retard. if they were good enough to pass the audition ahead of kronii then they would have

Yeah I do think Kronii’s biggest weakness is her own bad decision making at this point.

She has a great voice, great avatar, and when she tries a great personality. But she needs to put in a little effort. Get some solid schedules together. Get some games rolling. And maybe not game so much off stream that she doesn’t even want to touch a controller on screen. Just my thought.

>>13857305
as long as she herself doesn't complain or go into menhera due to dwindling numbers, it's not a "weakness"

Look, I personally don't give a shit about the political beliefs of the ENs (who I am sure a vast majority is pro-SJW for a long time now), since I'm pretty sure most of the vtubers in the west are SJW-leaning in general anyways.
But it does make me laugh that the many of the paypigs of these people are /pol/ tier retards who live in their mom's basements and these vtubers are making bank out of these retards' money.

Ironic, isn't it?

The JPs though I am pretty sure are politically apathetic (it's a given since Japan designed its political system to make people politically apathetic). The only person I would think has a political opinion in Holo is Coco (technically not a JP) and Botan (since she seems kinda into shit like this)

She’s probably got Imposter Syndrome. Still, you just know when she gets her “casual” outfit we’ll never see her big bow and boobas ever again.

>>13856336
So all of vtubing is some dyke nepotism club?

>>13834149
>lazy commie who doesn't want to work
Bro, you’re not supposed to make her sound based
>everything is offensive
Shitposting aside, Kronii talked about this topic on stream and she’s the complete opposite of this. This post would’ve been better suited for Mumei. College angle and all

>>13853365
man if this means she doesn't like streaming you sound like an overly clingy girlfriend

>>13830617
She doesn't have my dick in her breast pussy.

>>13856318
>literally refuses to stream when she clearly can
>NOOO NOO IT'S NOT BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T LIKE STREAMING IT'S BECAUSE.... S-SHE JUST DOESN'T HAVE TO DO IT OKAY IT'S HER CHOICE!!!

Bravo, retard.
3.6% of the month spent streaming.
26 hours in an entire month.
Literally almost half of her genmates, who are already known for being lazy as fuck.
To say nothing of myth who aren't even in the same dimension as her when it comes to stream times.
Streams less than people who have full fucking jobs and are constantly working on Hololive things on top of that)
Her fans rightfully complain at her for never streaming but still playing minecraft on HoloEN server off-stream (meaning she CAN STREAM AND CHOOSES NOT TO, FOR REASONS SHE EXPLAINED WHICH BOIL DOWN TO "CAN'T BE ASSED TO INTERACT WITH YOU FUCKS")

Yeah she clearly loves streaming so much.

>>13830617
Kronii is dumb in various regards, but you're dumber for being a numberfag.

>>13857696
Clockniggers really are the new Ayamecucks defending this pathetic shit

>>13857696
Retard, she took a 1 week break for personal reasons. That's why her numbers for this month are sub-par compared to the others. Otherwise, she'd be mogging half of them as usual. Touch grass, OP

>>13830971
Why would you install Windows 11?

>>13849549
Depends, usually, they're 6 months long, if you have chronic depression it can last years

>>13833456
Depression is not about being unable to do anything, it's about being unable to function normally. You can be very enthusiastic about some things from time to time and still be depressed

>>13857869
>"personal reasons"
There is it, the Ayamecuck special. Every week a new excuse.
Kronii has been a lazy, barely-streaming whore since fucking debut, retard.

>>13839833
>soul searching
Oh, do you feel lost? Why not try a bit of soul searching?

>>13845986
>one of thew few straight EN holos
Delusional

>>13857989
>1 collab (doesn't count)
>1 members stream (watchalong aka "I'm too lazy to stream")
So 1 real stream in an entire week. Amazing.

>>13857696
She permanently swore off minecraft last month, and took a week long break this month. Is this list even counting collabs and members content?
Why peddle misinformation on a chuuba you're not even watching? Everything you stated is just wrong. Who's your oshi anon I can come up with some stuff real quick

>>13857869
Gura's taken almost 2 weeks of breaks this month and still streamed more than Kronii.

>>13857989
Ahahahha this was also right after a week of already bad schedule and even the week before that too was shit. I’m just watching her fall from grace, it’s extra satisfying when it’s entirely her fault and no one else.

>>13858227
It was also two months ago. Wasnt it 3 or so months ago Gura just dropped off of the fucking map for a week and a half without telling anyone? After weeks of consistently shitty schedules?

Your oshi is an autistic shut-in lesbian NEET.

>>13858314
Her longest single break is a week, the one I think you're talking about was 6 days, Gura announced it ahead of time and it was for family reasons.

All these are example schedules that were before the break. An argument can be made that she was dealing with finishing up her pre Hololive work.

The bigger problem is that she claimed to be cleaning up distractions during her 7-day turned 10-day break. Despite that her lazy attitude is even more apparent after her break, not taking the 5 minutes to test out Cortana and ruining her membership stream, among others.

>>13857810
They fucking are lol
This is why EN is fucked

>>13858539
Mumei said it best in her Q&A, Kronii is like the middle child of the family that would rather play with her switch inside her room. I think Mooms was trying to say that she’d rather do anything else than stream.

>>13856684
Nothing is enjoyable when you're depressed, that dopamine release normal people get isn't happening. If something requires engagement they will quit it early, movies and shows are difficult to pay attention to. They sleep a lot and browse internet aimlessly when awake, there's absolutely no development in life for depressed people.

>>13858539
This entire post is just wrong. The cortana thing I guess, but I dont think anybody would be prepared for that. Did you watch the clip? The fucking thing was just screaming over and over.

>>13858621
Jfc LMAO

I feel like the mates are getting tired of her shit, because their recent excuses for it are low-tier.

And yet.
She remains one of the most popular members of council and is doing well.
She is well liked and received by most and is building up a decent sized following.
Also being honest about how boring one of the sponsored games was is endearing in my eyes since lying bad.

>>13858539
>>13858667
After the big anti-Mori copypasta that was debunked, I've given up trusting 4chan doomposts.

>>13858667
I’m talking about the stream after the break, anon. She already had one stream ruined by Cortana before a 10 day break, and she couldn’t be bothered to check it out ONCE during those 10 days, resulting in her first solo stream also getting ruined.

>>13858672
If her “closest” genmate said something like that about her then she probably has some serious issues that needs sorting not to mention her work ethics, this girl seems to not have an ounce of professionalism in her. And as we see throughout the 3 months we stayed with her, it’s honestly entirely all her fault because she thinks what she’s doing is right. Hard headed and very stubborn.

>>13845823

She took a break, it was a whole week. She probably is missing around 8 more hours of stream that would let her be closer to Ame, Mumei and Fauna's total durations

>>13858872
she tried, thats more than you can ask of her on a normal day.

>>13858872
Wow its almost like she was out of the country or something for 10 days thats fucking wacky. Its almost like she said she did try to fix it during the stream (You) mentioned and went as far as to turn cortana completely off.
>ruined
she had three or four 10 second instances of having to turn the stream off and on over a 3 hour period. Calm down friend

>>13847975
It was definitely one of the minecraft streams. I think it was when Gura kronii bae were playing minecraft and the conversation went towards talking about isekai's. The amount of self loathing that you'll never be anything in life is a result of her RL friends being toxic and shit towards her. Gura obviously wanted to gush over the possibility of being born a princess or having crazy powers but Kronii took it in a weird direction.

>>13857696
>he actually counts this shit to prove some schizo bullshit he made up
You are beyond saving, seriously consider suicide.

The more I think about it the more it seems she actually despises her audience

>>13830617
She could still get 20k tonight if she did a guerilla Minecraft stream. It's hard to shake popularity once you have it, even if you try really hard. Only a tiny percent of people who watch her will watch gen 6, because they stream in Japanese.

>>13859022
The fact that it took less than 5 minutes to fix it in stream means she could have done it before the stream too, anon. It takes what, 10 clicks total to turn off Cortana.

She refused to take just 5 minutes during her 10day break to fix an issue that ruined her previous stream. It clearly shows how little she cares.

>>13858621
Anybody got a timestamp?

>>13857440
>Vtuber is lazy and doesn’t want to work
>”SHE MUST HAVE IMPOSTER SYNDROME”

Why is /vt/ like this? Imposter Syndrome is extraordinarily rare, while laziness is extremely common.

>>13859521
Did you not watch her first superchat stream?

>>13840246
So he was just an average /vt/ schizo

>>13858848
This entire thread is just spiteful malding. Kronii had a rough start schedule wise but she actually took the time out to make a hour long members stream going over all of it and how she wants to do better. Since then her schedules have been way better, with an emphasis on impromptu collab joining.
I really do think anons just forget how god awful myth's start was as well. It takes a bit to find your groove, few chuubas really nail it in the first few months.

>>13859056
Ah, yes. Isekai'd as some background character that will never become Hokage line. So she'd rather be Shino who was all cool like in the beginning with bugs but after Boruto becomes an institutionalized teacher that nobody respects and is a joke of a character than what he started out as. I'd also go with Anko as well since she because just a fat bitch instead of the cool assassin that used snakes.

>>13858716
>She remains one of the most popular members of council and is doing well.
Exactly, she was THE MOST POPULAR in council by a big margin and that's not the case anymore.

>She is well liked and received by most and is building up a decent sized following.
Idk from where you get this idea because aside from the permanently growing sub count that comes with the brand, her decline has been the biggest of her gen.

>Also being honest about how boring one of the sponsored games was is endearing in my eyes since lying bad.
I would agree with this if she was an indie but that's not he case, she's more likely cucking other girls from future sponsors by doing this.

>>13859409
She didnt fix it in stream. Thats the issue, she took the 5 minutes to turn it off during her break and it didnt work because windows is shit. She literally stated this. Why are you blabbing your fucking mouth over a situation you know literally nothing about

I feel like she's been gone for months because schedule after schedule of hers are just the worst thing ever.
Look at this week for example:
1. Debuff Splatoon with chink squad
2. Pokemon two weeks late
3. Chess battle with finger blasted girl??????
4. Frostpunk, literally watch her do god knows what for 3 hours and not commentate at all except for the occasional "haha child labor" joke
5. Shitty member stream

There's nothing to look forward to, ever. And if you for some reason do enjoy one of these worthless streams guess what? She's just going to be extremely bored and disinterested the entire time and totally ruin it anyway. Sucks because she was originally my favorite and I hate to see it.

>>13859550
All I know is that according to /vt/, half of all Holos apparently have Imposter Syndrome.

>>13859770
>according to /vt/
kek

>Diablo 2
>Indie game
What the fuck am I reading

>>13859888
faggotry
Also nice captcha

>>13859722
This entire post is just seething and contradictions. Kill yourself

>>13859094
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST PROVE YOUR CASE, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO ACCEPT MY MENTAL GYMNASTICS AND DAMAGE CONTROL
Great "rebuttal".

>>13859722
pretty sure kroniggers excuse in the first months was that her voice and meme knowledge could carry even through the most debuff, boring games. well well well, that gimmick died off pretty quickly

>>13859622
It would help if what she said during that stream actually translated into actions anon, but it didn’t. Simplest example - she swore off minecraft rather than stream ~once a week.

She also claimed to try to fix her sleeping schedule and be better prepared, which she clearly failed at since then.

What the fuck happened with her doing stuff with Polka anyways

>>13860089
Prove? Nigga you're proving your own schizo shit to yourself. Who the FUCK counts PERCENTS out of a month that went to streaming? What the fuck does it have to do with her saying "I want to play on my own sometimes?" Jesas, you really are mentally ill...

>>13853498
Heh, I remember predicting that EN2 would have more wokefags and that EN1 was lucky to only have Kiara and Mori who only did some superficial pandering in PLs, but I wasn't expecting an entire clique of weeb lesbians worming their way in.
What is with Koreans and lesbian elites?

>>13860704
she did lmao. watch streams

>>13861346

>not bothering to test her streaming setup once during her 10 day break
>tweeting about waking up at 5pm est

>>13861498
>>13859691

>>13860889
>The invincible ignorance fallacy,[1] also known as argument by pigheadedness,[2] is a deductive fallacy of circularity where the person in question simply refuses to believe the argument, ignoring any evidence given. It is not so much a fallacious tactic in argument as it is a refusal to argue in the proper sense of the word. The method used in this fallacy is either to make assertions with no consideration of objections or to simply dismiss objections by calling them excuses, conjecture, etc. or saying that they are proof of nothing, all without actually demonstrating how the objection fit these terms.
Done. Concession accepted.

>>13830617
Sure depression sucks, but if i got paid big bucks by doing essentially nothing as an anime girl i’d still put the basic effort in it

>>13861624
You do have a point anon.
Out of everyone on earth, I can’t imagine there’s a better job to wake up to than playing video games and seeing colorful superchats of cash fly at you. Not to make light of whatever she’s going through but she signed up for the job.

>>13830617
>Mori 2.0 being Mori 2.0
No shit sherlock

>>13861595
You promise to take your meds if I say I lost your made up schizo argument? No go give yourself a pat on the back faggot

why do people care
theres a thousand bitches to watch out there
The key to sucess is not trying. The true teenager fanbase endgame

>>13861747
No need, your concession was already accepted the moment you IIF'd.

>>13830617
>fanbase reflects streamer
why did you give up on your potential anon...

>>13861791
Meeeeeeeddddsssssss mmmmmeeeeeedddddsssss schizooooooooo you didn't have an argument you only had your schizo bullshiiiiitt wake uuuuuuuppppppp

>>13855509
>>13855971
Kiara’s gone the opposite direction and decided to hijack #WOKE for self-promotion and tweeted about how “the blue ones” are trying to take control when she got verified. I don’t think any sort of SJW views she might have had were strongly held. Also I’m pretty sure the rrat with Ame was that she voted for Bernie in the primary and Johnson in the general election, so she’d be more generally anti-establishment than anything else.
>>13856464
By that logic, you’d have to consider Pekora a total failure and a waste of a Gen 3 slot, and everyone knows how ridiculous that sounds.

>>13858908
Based.

It's been a few months now, this is not going to get better. She is not going to get better. Excusing her shitty professionalism is only making it worse.

>>13861875
Are kronies really like this? You don't have to answer that, I've seen their general

>>13862094
Do kronies even venture out of their thread?

>>13858621
pretty sure she said ds lite. but yeah

>>13862058
I think it can get better if people call her out on it. Look at Calli. She used to be the absolute laziest and I’m invested holomember. That is not true at all these days.

>>13862094
>schizo keeps thinking he won his made up argument.
Now I'm somehow a kronie
This is fun!

>>13862130
Only the disillusioned ones
t.gen6bandwagoner

>>13861875
>SCHIZOSCHIZOSCHIZOSCHIZOSCHIZOSCHIZO
Literally fucking mindbroken, kek. Embarrassing.

>>13859521
Imposter syndrome is pretty common across many fields, not just in vtubing. But guess what, most people get over it and grow into their role since unfortunately for them, they're not in a position to not do their job and still make a living.

>>13862277
Mindbroken? Only if you're talking about yourself like the schizoid you are since you bring up unrelated shit and trying to prove something with it. Nigga, I repeat your fucking studies are IRRELEVANT to what I was saying. Now fuck off

>>13862215
If only we could - but clockcucks go into an emotional rants about 'uwu don't hurt her depressed feelings uwu' & 'uwu she's still doing her best' - the coddling is insane.

Joined both Kronii and IRyS and ended up watching mostly IRyS streams.

The sponsored streams are uninspiring and feels like those 10:01 YouTube videos. Her Diablo 2 play seems to be much better.

Felt it all went downhill after the MC zenloss. Fucking Fauna and her toxic gg creating a divide in Council with her stupid Mumei crap.

>>13862436
>the coddling is insane.
kek, yea no, i still remember this happening
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/11554873/#q11555624
also pic related. half of them's what you described, the other half are like this

>>13862400
Not enough SCHIZOSCHIZOSCHIZO screaming in your post, try again.

>>13862744
ah fuck

>>13862807
what member post is that from?

>>13862744
>https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/11554873/#q11555624

K E K

I'm not gonna sent this bitch SCs she probably gets off to it.

I'm tired that you can't point out that she has problems without her cuckies coming out to defend her. We know she has problems with uwu depression but if streaming isn't for her, then it isn't for her. Same cuckies that go cry about nakiri, like wtf? your oshi's still around cause her genmates drag her out. Stop gaslighting someone just so in a few months they come out with shit threats on 'how do we save her'.

>>13862807
>Fruit fly
kronii...

>>13830617
nice greentext retard

>>13862807
The duality of her fucking following. All that constructive criticism goes down the toilet, cause another tells her "she's doing great" kek
I hate the krucknies

>>13861739
the only Mori 2.0 is Mori herself atm

>>13864523
Based

>>13831031
You mean Kroniic Depression right?

>>13864523
A lot of people comparing Kronii to Mori have no idea wtf they are talking about. The big concern with Mori was that she was only using Hololive as a stepping stone to network with anitubers, push her non vtuber career, and then ditching soon after. Mori has always worked hard. It is when she fully bought in to Hololive that everything turned around for her and people, including the haters, were quick to see the change.

>>13865101
>work hard
that concept is a meme at this point

>>13844079
What persona?

>NOOOOO, HOW DARE THIS BITCH (that i don't watch) NOT LIVE UP TO MY INSANE STANDARDS WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
pls get help

>>13865101
100%. Mori at least tried from the start. Kronii has made it obvious that she just. Doesn’t. Care.

Why would an audience keep up when the talent herself refuses to put in even a minimal effort?

When you can’t be bothered to spend even 5 minutes in 10 days to fix an obvious issue, it’s an obvious sign that she doesn’t care.

When she is the deadweight in any collabs, so much so that her genmates call her out in multiple occasions, it is an obvious sign that she doesn’t care.

She’s a chronic slacker. Her laziness absolutely killed her potential. She will never reach even 50% of the promise she showed in her first week of streaming.

>>13865798
based

>>13840246
I see, thanks.

>>13850925
weird, I'll do my reps then.

Kronii will be come TheSpoonyOne of Hololive.
Limitless potential and all of the opportunity in the world, all squandered into nothing.

>>13865798
Mori went from going 100% into something she doesnt understand but clearly is appreciative towards because it helped her get out of her dead end jobs to being too good for Hololive and trying to use it as a stepping stone to move away with her musician friends to getting hurt by their jealousy and realizing how good she had it with respecting her audience and trying her best to make them happy now. Mori went through a few arcs and her current one is someone who deserves the level of respect she commands now because she actually started caring for vtubers and the community instead of being disgusted at it.

>>13870342
Uncanny resemblance. Except for the fact that Spoony used to work hard and quite consistently delivered before descending into madness