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Previously on numbers
>>13895566

>> No.13905140

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.13905156

Man, and here I though the numbercooming will only comes from HoloX ...

>> No.13905174

Does AZKi have interest in streaming regularly? I've heard she's also burdened with a regular OL job on top of her other roommate activities. If she wanted to transition into being a full time hololive streamer tho I could see her fitting into Mel-tier easily.

>> No.13905193

>>13905174
nope

>> No.13905198

>A-chan reaches 11K
>as the hawk falls bellow 15K

Hawk hag... I have to save her!

>> No.13905211
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13905211

For those who missed, the "April 2019 todate" last thread
>>13903338
>>13903629
>>13903801

Short summary is
>HoloJP inclining, even before debuts
>Everybody else reclining

>> No.13905213

How long will Pokemon arc last?

>> No.13905236

>>13905213
Until the Tournament finishes. Maybe another 2 weeks.

>> No.13905244

>>13905213
I think they're time limited because of expiring permissions

>> No.13905245

>>13905213
Until the tourney and permissions end as a result.

>> No.13905258

>>13905213
Until they lose permissions when the tournament ends.

>> No.13905262

>>13905213
till the permission expired

>> No.13905284

>>13905198

Iroha started her stream (Totsu), so people are leaving for that

>> No.13905297
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13905297

>Kuzuha getting shut out of a medal by Koyori
kek, should have wore cleats and chained his tyres

>> No.13905309

what's the total CCV right now

>> No.13905321

>>13904842
>>13904915
>>13904926
if what you anons said is true and fbk doesn't care, I'll rate that so much...but it's true that I don't watch her a lot.
I assumed it's true already but I just thought she might've felt a bit off about the disparity in her numbers.
but hey, if that's nit the case and she doesn't care at all then bless! I'm happy for her, seems like the only one who cars about her numbers in gen 1 is haachama? and she only cares about her subs more than any other number

>> No.13905340

>all of gen 6 are spamming streams after debut, hitting the ground running to keep themselves fresh in the minds of their debut buff tourists as much as possible
What an aggressive gen...

>> No.13905355

>>13905211
Nah nijisanji en is inclining by a lot It is people got tired of council and failed to expand hololive en viewer base so all en members are fighting each other for views. It happend with mori and kronii as soon as kronii went last mori viewers drop. All nijisanji en can manage pull multiple 3k streames at once with overlap when before they could not. So yes Nijisanji EN is in fact inclining .

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>>13905321
https://youtu.be/XHAq2bQyyrg
as for Haachama, it's because she's young so she wants to chase after things

>> No.13905385

Does anyone have anything source for data similar to pic related for all of nijis? I've seen people claim on a different chan that Nina is actually streaming the most out of entire Nijisanji, not just EN.

>> No.13905389

>>13905355
nah that's a sad cope

>> No.13905395

>>13905355
chart?

>> No.13905398

>>13905321
Well, you CAN make a case for Haachama, but she's already occupied with RL stuffs, so she cannot play the number game anymore

>> No.13905400
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>>13905355
Stop being delusional

>> No.13905414
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>>13905385
stop eating my pictures

>> No.13905416

>>13905400
Oof

>> No.13905420

>>13905355
We literally have data showing they are reclining, lol.

>> No.13905422

Susan just axed La+ debut VOD

>> No.13905426
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>>13905355
>So yes Nijisanji EN is in fact inclining .
TRUE FELLOW NIJIEN FAN
>pic related
HERE IS THE CHART THAT PROVES IT!

>HoloEN BTFO
>Hololive BTFO
>Jack Sparrow BTFO

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13905430

Holy shit Fubuki hit 30K subs in the last 7 days, the pokemon buff was huge not only for CCV.

>> No.13905437

https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1466027060741099520
https://twitter.com/KimuraYuito/status/1466028288610955270
bruh

>> No.13905439

>>13905400
No need to respond to every bait.

>> No.13905456

>>13905426
kek

>> No.13905457

>>13905430
Further proof that the Pokemon streams attract a huge number of tourists

>> No.13905461
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A-chan actually mogged a lot of Nijis livers tonight

>> No.13905492

>>13905422
Susan hates cunny, she was too late to do anything about Gura but she will make sure to keep Laplus down

>> No.13905497

>>13905437
I can read but I lack context- I don't get, what they're going on about?

>> No.13905520

>>13905457
Guess anyone who hasn't started a Pokemon stream yet by now missed out. It's too late now.

>> No.13905523

https://youtu.be/SuSKk6KfHFk

>> No.13905526

>>13905437
>director of cygames
This brat...

>> No.13905527

>>13905430
Fubuki overtaking Korone after about one year since the 1M battle would be omoshiroi as fuck

>> No.13905531

>>13905457
More like, any “VOID” type streams are Fubuki’s specially.

>> No.13905532

>>13905437
HOLY FUCK
IT'S FUCKING KMR

>> No.13905561

post the CCV right now between the companies

>> No.13905566

>>13905174
Project Azki is still ustable hence why she put the same efforts for nayuta. As i see it, cover seems to still be unsure about INNK. If they could afford it, they should just go all out and turn it into a music label, so they can has their own in-house studio to produce songs for their talents and other chuubas too. Im sure there's some utaites and producers (voca-p) out there that are willing to join or at least partner with them.

>> No.13905568

>>13905526
>cygames
Isn't that (among others) the publishers of Princess Connect? They're already in the Holo hole, I can see them strengthening the ties and, here is a BOMBASTIC BOLD PREDICTIONS
>if there is ANY partnership that could birth a proper Hololive mainstream anime, it would be with Cygames

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>>13905437
HOLY SHITS IT'S SKINNY YAGOO

>> No.13905582

>>13905400
Disgusting Kek

>> No.13905596

>NNN is over
>Risu belike:
https://fb.watch/9DfgyxLc3W/

>> No.13905600

>>13905566
>If they could afford it, they should just go all out and turn it into a music label, so they can has their own in-house studio to produce songs
That would be wasteful. Hololive is clearly doing it on the cheap for their talent on the "producing" side of things and using NextTone for the actual "publishing" side. INNK ended up being redundant

>> No.13905604

>>13905437
cunny is too strong

>> No.13905609

>>13905340
Very ambitious desu. Me likey

>> No.13905630

>>13905385
1 month sample is definition of cherry picking to claim x group is streaming more than y group

>> No.13905633

is graph anon still here? Id like to see the numbers between each holo EN member

>> No.13905635

>>13905596
>Facebook
That's bold. Is it big in ID? Facebook more or less died in most of the west

>> No.13905639

>>13905566
>Project Azki is still ustable hence why she put the same efforts for nayuta
I don't think it's about the money because she could easily quit her OL job and join Hololive officially if she wishes. I hope that pioneer bro comes by and explain the situation again

>> No.13905645

>>13905437
>KMR
If cunny makes Cygames to partner with Hololive on a collab, I will kneel forever.

>> No.13905650

>>13905381
I fear the day Sora and FBK graduate

>> No.13905658

>>13905596
>facebook

>> No.13905665

>>13905213
Doesn’t matter. What matter is the next arc
Anyone want to guess?

>> No.13905682

>>13905665
FF14

>> No.13905681
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>USSEEWA
Numbers as expected for a 4-5 days 1m views cover.
>HoloX Ochame Kinou
Great numbers, most likely ~2 days 1m views.
>Laplus Kami ppoi
Very good numbers, pointing towards ~2 days 1m views as well.
The test for all gen 6's covers is the longevity of these releases. I can see Kami ppoi doing the best out of them. But it will be a challenge to average 300k views per week after the initial hype period.

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>>13905492
>she was too late to do anything about Gura
Nah, Susan has been nerfing Gura all this time.

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13905692

>>13905355
>Keep the good fight intern-kun! I will add another wave for (you)r EN

>> No.13905693

0 members in A-chan's stream
Explain this holobronies

>> No.13905694

>>13905497
La+ will have a stream about Shadowverse
The guy she's replying to is the director of CyGames

>> No.13905698

>>13905650
why?
if those two are gone, then Hololive might as well be dead since the "one big family" image will be gone

>> No.13905701

>>13905566
INNK probably closing once Azki contracts runs out and they transfer them all to Hololive Production.
Label was only made so they could circumvent going through big labels like Sony or Universal.
>>13905665
Minecraft huge update at the end of the month.

>> No.13905702

>>13905665
Kiara has said Miko is planning something. I have no idea what that something could be though.

>> No.13905709

>>13905645
Hololive is already partnered to Bushiroad, so there might be conflict of interests there... but i still want it to happen.

>> No.13905712

>>13905568
They are developers and JP publishers of Princess Connect, Shadowverse, GBF, Uma Musume and some other titles so yeah, they are already friendly with Hololive. I think this is the first time some Holo interact with KMR directly, though

>> No.13905719

>>13905596
>Facebook
Wait i didn't know risu is a FBfagg

>> No.13905723

>>13905665
Minecraft. To welcome Gen 6.

>> No.13905734

>>13905712
>Uma Musume
imagine if they sneak a holo in that game

>> No.13905735

>>13905568
If Hololive ever gets an anime, all I wish for is a subaduck voiced by Sephiroth's va.

>> No.13905738

>>13905665
Pokemon Legends Arceus will come out early next year. that will be the next big fad.

>> No.13905740

>>13905633
>is graph anon still here? Id like to see the numbers between each holo EN member
When I make NijiEN (I did past month) I do HoloEN too.

It's an exercise in futility tho because of all the breaks on HoloEN, the sample size ends up being too small to determine if there is a recline in a time period or if they're just not streaming

Sadly HoloEN has no daily streamer

>> No.13905761

>>13905635
It is, it basically takes the place of reddit and twitter for most of them because reddit is banned there

>> No.13905769

>>13905681
Reference :
OWTH 720K-730K a day 1M 44hrs 20min

>> No.13905772
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>>13905426
>KNEEL

>> No.13905775

>>13905719
HoloID's have official facebook pages, and many SEAnigs still use it.

>> No.13905779

>>13905596
did she realize she can multistream youtube and facebook because there's no exclusivity clause or is she just testing the waters with facebook?

>> No.13905794

>>13905635
>>13905658

TL;DR: Yes, unlike America/Japan, Facebook is very popular in SEA

"Data from GWI shows that YouTube attracts the largest online audience when it comes to 16 to 24s in South-East Asia, with more than 9 in 10 internet users in this age group saying that they watch at least one video on YouTube each month.

There’s still plenty of debate about whether YouTube qualifies as a ‘social’ medium though, so I’ll let you draw your own conclusions there.

Facebook isn’t far behind YouTube though, with almost 88 percent of internet users aged 16 to 24 across South-East Asia’s larger economies saying that they use the platform each month."

>> No.13905805

>>13905723
This. It's tradition and hopefully gen 6 will be as smart as gen 5 and not be retards like gen 4 using Minecraft as a loophole to collab with their senpai before the ban is up. Gen 5 managed to prolong their debut buff to two whole months with that.

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>>13905694
>The guy she's replying to is the director of CyGames
and he replied back

>> No.13905807

Iroha currently has 27k viewers or her Totsu stream

>> No.13905831

>150k total ccv for holo atm

>> No.13905833
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13905833

>>13905772

>> No.13905835

>>13905698
That's why he said 'he fears the day'. Anon...

>> No.13905843

>>13905740
I see, is there enough data for the ones are are streaming a lot? like Mori, Sana and Irys

>> No.13905846
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>>13905772
I KNEEL

>> No.13905860

>>13905723
I want to see their reaction to the Kensetsus lol. One of the best thing in Hololive is whenever a new gen debut and people goes “Damn I wonder which kensetsu she’s going to join”

>> No.13905864

>>13905702
This fucking bird, shut the fuck up with that detail

>> No.13905866

Migo's number is taking a hit.

>> No.13905876

>>13905400
kek

>> No.13905879

Not related to number
From A-chan current stream:
>49:44 [EN] (Apparently Iroha's manager was pale in the face when they heard about her breaking her computer.)

Explained the (rather) "safe" debut

>> No.13905892

>>13905843
No, that's not the point. I have perfect data for all Holos thanks to Holostats. But with pretty much the entire branch being on hiatus one week or the other (or packed with those dreaded anime con events taking away time for streaming) their October and November are not representative at all

>> No.13905907

>>13905879
she's probably the shit poster of the gen

>> No.13905921

You may not believe it, but I predict that wave 4 will bring in new viewers and incline the whole branch usurping HoloEN from the western sphere. Wave 4 males will collaborate with Ludwig, Ludwig becomes friends with them and invites/introduce them to other collabs with twitchfolks.

>> No.13905935

>>13905807
Please watch my hag wife playing her cute dating sim

>> No.13905937

>>13905400
You guys just accept these random graphs without proof how do we know the data is not fake. I mean I seen it with my own eyes none of nijsanji en is not failing to break 1k anymore so there should be at least a small incline. Plus lazulight are all on Selen levels so an incline should be there.

>> No.13905939

>>13905921
Yes I will not believe it

>> No.13905945

>>13905892
ah ok np

>> No.13905963

>>13905921
as a NijiEN fan im really happy, holokeks btfo

>> No.13905978

>>13905935
Maybe after Peko finish

>> No.13905995

>>13905937
you're fake

>> No.13905997

>>13905935
I have no idea why she chose to play that "game" this early. Feels like only orca knows what she's doing

>> No.13906005

>>13905794
>with almost 88 percent of internet users aged 16 to 24 across South-East Asia’s larger economies saying that they use the platform each month.
that's pretty big

>> No.13906010

>>13905921
i would think there is potential since male streams do better than female ones but the only semi-popular male vtubers I know of are converts or ones who did it as a one time gimmick

>> No.13906012

>>13905921
>wave 4 will bring in new viewers and incline the whole branch
Believable
>usurping HoloEN from the western sphere
Not anytime soon
>Wave 4 males will collaborate with Ludwig
Maybe
>Ludwig becomes friends with them
B I G Maybe
>and invites/introduce them to other collabs with twitchfolks
They don't need Ludwig to do that

>> No.13906021

>>13905937
This is the numbers thread, bring numbers and trends, not "I feel" and "I can see"

>> No.13906026

>>13905937
Anon, the Hololive data is pretty open and shut, there's mulitple sources to corroborate it.
For the Niji data, it's all from Nijimado, so if you feel such doubt you're free to pull the data and do your own analysis to cross-check. Averages are averages, one or two good days doesnt make up for the rest of the month.

>> No.13906037

>>13905400
>>13905426
Setempter-October was when Erythia debuted and added a bunch of streamers which are on the lower end of views (but high SC), dumbfuck. Your numbers mean nothing if you don't know how to analyze them.

>> No.13906042

>>13905866
she already streamed earlier today

>> No.13906044
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13906044

Are 35P disloyal? I've heard some talk about Miko being a lot of people's #2, there might be some truth to that.

>> No.13906058

>>13906037
Ah I love the smell of nijicope in the morning

>> No.13906078

>>13905937
>You guys just accept these random graphs without proof how do we know the data is not fake.
You guys are free to cross check because it is all publicly available data, you can do it even by hand
Mado :https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly/2021-11-30
Holostats: https://holo.poi.cat/youtube-stream

There is also the fact multiple anons (on this side of the pond or on the yellow side) doing it independently and getting more or less similar results. That should be enough to dispel any doubt

>> No.13906082

>>13905692
this man will age with an ugly bastard tag I can feel it

>> No.13906094

>>13906044
This is her second stream today, and Pekora is also streaming right now. There's been relatively high fanbase overlap between Pekora and Miko, so there's that as well.

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>>13906058
Cope with this. Imagine losing in SC to a bunch of holostars tier midgets. Holoniggers viewers must be all bots or something.

>> No.13906116

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuSKk6KfHFk
>doesnt get the number with El Shadai
>goes back to pokemon

>> No.13906123

>>13905137
Why is the gen6 so strong
Give me the answer numberfags

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>> No.13906137

>>13906123
Brand strenght and the talents themselves are good

>> No.13906147

>13906105
Kek wtf is the meaning of this? Is this supposed to be a shipost or just a braindead argument?

>> No.13906168

>>13905879
Damn! Intern-chan almost got fired day one

>> No.13906176

>>13906123
First new JP gen (the branch that really matters and isn't clipfags or tourists) in over a year

>> No.13906182

>>13905794
i thought facebook is the third biggest thing in japan after line and twitter

>> No.13906184

>>13906123
They actually stream

>> No.13906189

>>13906037
Anon, a chart showing views isn't going to show SC, stop being a salty retard.
Some Anons have done the math for SC for MOST of November and yes, the SC total for the branch has gone up, but the viewership hasn't really increased by an amount proportional to the addition of 4 new members, meaning a (slightly) increased pie shared amongst an increasing number of mouths.

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>>13905921
>>13905937
>I belib

>> No.13906202

>>13906116
You can call friend EVERYTHING except a numberfag.

>> No.13906213

>>13906202
wife!

>> No.13906215

>>13905321
Bros???
I thought you said fbk don't care about numbers???
Why she quit that shit game to play pokemon again?
HMMM???

>> No.13906230

>>13906116
The grind, I bet my ass there's no holoFes this month. As other anons predicted, it will be February

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>>13906105

>> No.13906242

>>13906116
Eh, she plays the game for like an hour or two at a time. Pokemon though, is time limited so she NEEDS to get that shiny Karp.

>> No.13906251

>>13906215
this is it
this is the run

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>> No.13906262

>>13906202
whore

>> No.13906271

>>13906123
compare the output 1 week of their debut, Council is in the shitters

>> No.13906278

>>13906230
Too busy this month already anyways, xmas 3D costumes later this month.

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13906279

>>13906123
Good recruit
>pic related

>> No.13906280

I still remember that HoloX girl who show a chart of her stats. More Holos should do that
Then I can say that I want a Holo who built like Star Platinum in Jojo

>> No.13906281

>>13906215
Because they only got the permissions for a limited time campaign, because TPC are faggots.

>> No.13906288

>>13906105
>HoloEN more than $60k ahead in term of SCs
>Even the currently underperforming Council is still 7k ahead of Ethyria
>losing in SC
?

>> No.13906300

>>13906271
>comparing a 5 day debut to a 1 day debut relay
faggot

>> No.13906305

>>13906182
Yeah, but for SEA, FB is pretty much No.1

>> No.13906329

>>13906271
>welcome back

>> No.13906339

Anykara is still relying on their 2018-19 old guns to get numbers. If they want to aim higher, they need new weapons. They badly need a Coco or Gura tier viral new liver. Cmon, ramp up the scouting/hiring department and don't left the new livers to fend and grow on their own.

>> No.13906347

>>13906288
>Council
5 members
Erythia
4 members

You lost holonigger. Go home. Yagoo and his viewbots/subbots are being exposed.

>> No.13906357

>>13906339
I'm sorry we will only hire ex-pros to be safe

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13906365

>>13906279
One beatdown wasn't enough
Meru want to make sure her opponent is extra ded

>Pic also related

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>> No.13906370

>32k
Cunny+ added numbeer

>> No.13906380

>>13906288
not even that all of Nijien streamed more than most of holo EN and by a lot
selen, elira, nina are all above 100hrs and got mogged by Sana wich has 70hrs

>> No.13906387

>>13906347
>Remove Mumei from Council to make it 4v4 against Ethyria
>Council is still (slightly) ahead
?

>> No.13906390

Stop replying to bait, especially bait propping up obvious ants

>> No.13906394

>>13906365
post the ASMR one

>> No.13906410

>>13905831
>166k total ccv as we head 20 minutes before midnight jst

>> No.13906412

What are the chances Riku gets replaced from the CEO position of his own company?

>> No.13906427

>>13906365
Now we know who is the one true vampire

>> No.13906434

>>13906410
Holly hell jez.

>> No.13906438

>>13906387
Stop replying to a retard nijikek, he's nitpicking to win something LMAO

>> No.13906440
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13906440

Sana of HoloX!

>> No.13906447

NijiEN keks seething after their midget's birthday got mogged by random staff of hololive.

>> No.13906450

Cunny has some really weird stream times and no schedule

>> No.13906454

>>13906412
None unless there's a sex scandal and he needs to leave and even then, is a big if.

>> No.13906460

>>13906410
On a Wednesday night.

>> No.13906464
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>>13906347
>Erythia

>> No.13906475

>>13906440
all of them will be sub 10k by end of next month

>> No.13906474

>>13906440
She's overlapping with Iroha totsu

>> No.13906482

>>13906412
Zero. As long as the top talents bring in money it doesn’t matter how the bottom feeders are doing.

>> No.13906491

>>13906450
She is the booster of the gen. Shows up to boost her gen's number

>> No.13906492

>>13906447
Oh so that's why, no wonder this braindead nijikeks are seething and coping

>> No.13906502

>>13906440
>Just debut few days ago
>Sub 10k already
Holobros...

>> No.13906507
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>>13906454
EXPLAIN

>> No.13906509

Newfag here
Where do you guys keep the lists of observabley highest earners like by sc+memberships ?

>> No.13906525

Jp gura join the chat.

>> No.13906543

Pekora 35k gechu! Her audience is indeed loyal as fuck.

>> No.13906573
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13906573

Something to note:
This HoloRadio is the highest ever in terms of CCV

>> No.13906584

>>13906509
Total SC lists get posted from time to time. Memberships, there is no reliable way to know the exact amount of members any one chubba has at the moment u less they outright say how many they havem we have bear guesstimate floors from members polls and/or chat scraping.

>> No.13906593

>>13906507
He is fucking some of the talent and cheating his wife. Or something like that but is really hard to know if thats enough to leave, because he could just pay for an NDA and forget about everything.

>> No.13906599

>>13906412
As soon as Sony decides to give up on their failure of a project and decide to take over anycolor instead.

>> No.13906603

>>13906278
Yeah, it looks like the 3d event this month is the Christmas costumes

>> No.13906604

FBK net 20k pokemontard. Sasuga cat.

>> No.13906605

>>13906412
0. The other guy who did some things in the company (he was responsible for scouting/hiring Kuzuha, for example) has left the company earlier this year.

>> No.13906606

>>13906440
her manager should have veto'd this game choice
too much freedom?

>> No.13906607

>>13906573
Gen 6 debuts reenergized interest across the board, if Korone and Nene know what's good for them they'll return to streaming soon.

>> No.13906609
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>33k
ENTER

>> No.13906626

>>13906387
>it's okay to be tied in sc to a branch that gets holostars tier viewership
Doesn't even include streamlabs, which they get a decent amount of money from. That would definitely put them ahead. Cope.

>> No.13906627

Cunny seems like she cares about her gen doing well, she wanted to stream at 7 originally but moved to midnight, linked other member's streams and explicitly said she was moving hers to midnight to watch the other members.

>> No.13906636

>>13906606
Her manager was the one who suggested this game

>> No.13906644

>>13905734
it would literally be even bigger than azur lane

>> No.13906668

>>13906636
That manager need to be fired. Omae kubida!

>> No.13906683
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>>13906627
Ah, these youthful positive energy ...
Also:
>Hololive
>TOO MANY LIVE

>> No.13906685

>>13906609
orca helping out the white samurai

>> No.13906688
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>>13906626

>> No.13906703

>>13906475
>Orca
>Cunny
>Sub 10k
Do nijikeks really?

>> No.13906714
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13906714

Is it true Niji got mogged by a random archived karoke?

lol

>> No.13906731

>>13906626
# thread anon show data and you'll prove your point, and if you can't you will just basically be called nijinigger, braindead seething and coping LMAO

>> No.13906735

>>13906683
My archives are piling up for fuck sake

>> No.13906756

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCm5HcEovzg

Okay, this is, dare I say, AS DEBUFF AS IT CAN GET
>Weird game choice
>Midnight
>Multiple heavy hitter streaming atm
Let see how she fair in this situation

>> No.13906759

>>13906636
>Her manager was the one who suggested this game
Yeah, managers tend to go with meme games early thinking they're easy views even though they're played out. I remember IRyS speedrunning through meme games during her first couple of weeks and it really fucked up her momentum.

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>>13906627
>Unity and Numberfag
She is too perfect bros...

>> No.13906763

Please give some mercy Susan...

>> No.13906765

>>13906703
i will bet rikus life on it.

>> No.13906768
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13906768

What are even these random drops they get sometimes

>> No.13906771

>>13906714
*Scuffed archived karaoke

>> No.13906774

>>13905709
Bushi is completely different from cygames tho theyre not competitors in anybway shape or form

>> No.13906781

>>13906714
Yes nose, hololive won the month thanks to fucking whale that butchered the songs

>> No.13906798

>>13906714
Don’t shitpost with Nose.

>> No.13906803

>>13906543
I fucking love her chat. They support absolutely everything she does

>> No.13906805

>>13906756
is the first gamestream so she will get 25k
if she repeats then she is fuckng stupid tough that game will posion the numebrs

>> No.13906808

>>13906768
Susan's botcheck torist-kun

>> No.13906810

>>13906768
Holobots being slashed by based Susan

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13906846

>>13906805
25k will be a success for me
Consider this:

>> No.13906848

>>13906803
Except for subscribing

>> No.13906853

>>13906781
Not so fast, Nijisanji can still win if Kuzuha pairs up with a big name celeb in CR Cup

>> No.13906857

>>13906810
Niji Cope Eternal

>> No.13906872

>Nijiseethe starts
>Holo JP vs EN stops
Really makes you wonder huh

>> No.13906880

>>13906507
One day I'll become a billionaire, buy Nijisanji, fire all the livers' VA, employ retired porn stars to use their models and have them stream porn on chaturbate and pornhub. In a place where Hololive is not there, I can run amok.

>Kuzuha having a threesome with Mito, Rindou and Emma?
Why yes, it's tonight event on primetime. Be there or be square.
>Gay porn of Fuwa and Ibrahim
A little bit weird, but I already had it scheduled on Thursday.
>A large orgy relay?! That's a brilliant idea, it's on the level of Koshien, better yet, make it a yearly tournament!
>Harro, moshi2, Chaturbate called. What's the reason? Ptubers are dominating the site.
My god, I conquered two platforms all by myself.

Riku should follow my steps. All the 8k viewers of NijiEN would like to see a 3D orgy of their girls in a blacked stream and pay thousands.

>> No.13906885

>>13906846
is debut buff. all of those like most girls streaming right now are below avergae excpet for a few.

>> No.13906890

>>13906846
I mean it's fucking Shadowverse, pretty big debuff. Makes me wonder if this part of a coordinated campaign between Cover and Cygames. Apparently they were pretty happy with the Mori/Kiara collabs

>> No.13906908

>>13906810
>susan
>based
the absolute state of nijikeks

>> No.13906915

>>13906605
Iwanaga? I thought he did a report/interview about VTA in October.

>> No.13906937

>>13906915
That was Producer Suzuki I think

>> No.13906964
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We got too cocky holobros. Lofi girl is mogging our entire new wave.

>> No.13906987

>>13906853
It's already december sister...

>> No.13906993

>>13906964
Wdym? Lofi is part of Holo ID

>> No.13907002

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpQKFH77YaU

From the ongoing stream

(C: Choco; L:Lamy; N: Noel)

>48:10 N: I want to ask, how did you feel when you first joined Hololive?
>49:06 L: How was it Choco-sensei C: When I joined? There were not really any boundaries, it was "Do what you want Choco!" L: So all supportive Cover
>49:24 C: So when I joined, I was like, "Hololive is like this?" 1st gen was super friendly
>50:10 C: We could meet and chat with people after debutting
>50:57 N: For 3rd gen we did talk before debut but not really after
>52:05 N: By the way, I'm pretty sure the rule of no collabs for your first month started in 3rd Gen
>53:24 Noel talks about how the scheduling worked at the time to try to not be streaming at a time the other is
>55:30 N: So then Lamy-san! L: We applied before Non-stop story and then get the results after
>55:43 L: Yes we applied before 4th gen debuted.
>55:42 [EN] L: Yes we applied before 4th gen debuted.

>> No.13907006

>>13906987
Yes, and CR Cup is in December.

>> No.13907027

>>13906584
Oh I thought the number of members was shown in their channel stats of on those websites that probed youtube api
I guess it's futile to try and see who makes the most money every month

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>>13906880
>i rike

>> No.13907086

>>13906964
I feel like Hololive main channel could actually do a 24 hours lofi stream of their own music on loop to farm views and new viewers

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13907088

>>13905430

>> No.13907089

>>13906915
https://twitter.com/iwataiki/status/1387965589679796225
Yeah, him. He’s left with SLEE.

>> No.13907134

>>13907002
Post more anon

>> No.13907156

>>13905734
No horse holo yet.

>> No.13907179
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13907179

Just found it somewhere
catch different ID
member chat number/ chat number ( member%)
It should be unique ID number

>> No.13907183

>>13907089
>He’s left with SLEE
What's SLEE?

>> No.13907186

16k from the get go nice yamada.

>> No.13907209

>>13907134
No, watch stream
I'm looking for La+ getting dunked on

>> No.13907222

Rip Miko. Gen 6 just debut and now she become mid tier.

>> No.13907239

>miko sub 10k
>playing an extremely popular game that a lot of people were probably waiting to see her play
These are weird times.

>> No.13907257

>>13905430
The true KING is back

>> No.13907264

Yeah, shadowverse to La+ is like Tetris to Suisei. She'll get good numbers from this in the long run.

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>>13906037
>which are on the lower end of views (but high SC), dumbfuck
While it is true that Elytria may have improved the superchat revenue per streamer for Nijisanji EN it is still WAAAAY down from the first month of monetization for LazuLight.
>pic related

Actually maybe the incline was caused more by birthdays than by Elythria, I'm too lazy to check it now

>> No.13907289

>>13906410
>178k total ccv for holo, goddamn midnight jst

>> No.13907291

>>13907179
Is that for the year or jsut the month?
if the former makes it unrealieable since people can unmemeber

>> No.13907298

>>13907239
She already stream today. 35p prob thought she done for today.

>> No.13907312

>Miko pokemon 10k
what fucking happened

>> No.13907315

>>13906805
I'm the anon at >>13906846
Seems like we underestimate her bro

>> No.13907318

>>13907291
1/1 to 11/31 this year

>> No.13907345

>>13907312
Pokemon is not her thing. There is no "Pokemon buff", but "chuubas doing interesting things on Pokemon" buff.

>> No.13907359

>>13907298
She started at 23h in Japan. Very few 35ps were sleeping or had anything better to do (besides watch othe streams). I'm not going to bother going there, but the 5ch 35ps must be seething right now, they're huge numberfags.

>> No.13907360

Pekora lost 4k to La+

>> No.13907364

>>13907298
She need to team up with flare. Like subaru with okayu.

>> No.13907365

>>13907315
i missed the 25k+ but whatever im interested in the retention. not her peak this time.

>> No.13907369

>>13907269
That's because they received most of it from streamlabs in their first month.

>> No.13907370

>>13907179
>>13907318
>2021/11/31
HAHAHAAHA, NIPS IN CHARGE OF GREGORIAN CALENDAR

>> No.13907372

>>13907179
according to the chart Gura has 500k members?

>> No.13907373

>>13907312
Turns out new gen is Miko killer!

>> No.13907379
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>>13907179
Nice, it's far from perfect but this is the closest we can get to actual members numbers honestly. Interesting how Ayame is the one with the best ratio after Coco.

>> No.13907386

>>13907373
more like edengumi killer

>> No.13907408

>>13907360
She's the Peko killer all along...

>> No.13907422

>>13907369
This only measures playboard Superchat, meaning it is only for Youtube Superchat revenue.
Streamlabs is something opaque and can't be numberfagged but it took 2 months for Lazulight to be monetized and about one week for Elythria

>> No.13907427

>>13907179
This has got to be for the year right? 500k unique chatters looks to be for the year instead of the month since last month Gura had approximately 100k unique chatters iirc (October)

>> No.13907428

>>13907360
No she didn't. People started leaving as soon as she finished the last gym. She's basically playing normal Pokemon right now which is a neutral game at best.

>> No.13907430

Cunny is extremely entertaining, if she gets a proper schedule she might hold her own against the monster that Chloe seems to be.

>> No.13907444

>>13907408
The way they're both cocky, get humiliated and have to kneel is similar.

>> No.13907461

Gen 6 got 2 powerful beings. Yagoo i dogeza.

>> No.13907460

>>13907370
kek What should I say, I just type what I saw.

>> No.13907462

>>13907372
That's 509K unique IDs in her chat (so including greynames), 27.9K being members (greens).

>> No.13907492

>>13907430
how the fuck did Yagoo filter thousands of applicants

>> No.13907494

>>13907427
yes it's january to november 2021

>> No.13907495

Edengumi is Selejo tier now.

>> No.13907518

>>13906543
>>13906803
Nousagis..

>> No.13907535

>>13907495
By early next year this will unironically be true if Suo keeps inclining, she'll be the Leos of Selejo and the rest of Edengumi will just be Selejo.

>> No.13907542
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13907542

>La+ is playing a debuff game and she's already beat Peko's numbers!

>> No.13907546

>>13907430
Yep, talks a lot, rages, screams - all signs of proper streamer who is fun to poke at.

>> No.13907552

>>13907183
An idol project, a combination of real and virtual. It was previously a part of Ichikara. Basically 22/7 but less successful. Yumenographia was probably his idea too, now that he’s left no one is too enthusiastic about it.

>> No.13907560

nips love (hate) shadowba so they'll watch
you guys are so out of touch with reality it's hilarious

>> No.13907561

JP vs JP time!

>> No.13907564

>>13906543
>>13906803
oh no no no

>> No.13907579

>>13907495
At least Lauren can bring in the money for himself I guess.
Mr Apex became irrelevant so fast.

>> No.13907583

So Pekora is just a waiting room for La+ now? Her numbers keep going down.

>> No.13907593

>>13907492
Where the fuck yagoo find these girls.

>> No.13907600

>>13907564
>>13907518
She had 35k for the gym leader, it's back to normal pokemon now.

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13907619

>>13907542

>> No.13907635
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13907635

>>13907492
>>13907593
>pic related

>> No.13907641

KAZAMA FUNNEL NOW!

>> No.13907643

>>13907579
Weren't both Lauren and Axia Apex streamers?

>> No.13907649

Why do we operate by peak stream 's CCV instead of average CCV of a stream? Isn't average is more representative?

>> No.13907661
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>>13907518
Yes we are

>> No.13907685

>>13907649
peak is more fun

>> No.13907686

>>13907546
This is why I know she will get bigger numbers if she plays a game like Apex. More chuuni rage/smugness possibilities.

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>>13907542
Stop this please
I'm the one... numbers queen...

>> No.13907689

>>13907635
Meru sama! The best holo spy.

>> No.13907708
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13907708

birb...

>> No.13907715

>>13907179
wtf is watame doing at the top along with all the big hitters kek

>> No.13907733

>>13907686
>>13907546
kusogaki arhcetype get boring fast tough.

>> No.13907735
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13907735

>38k and counting
Jesas cunny+

>> No.13907742

>>13907542
> anon doesn't understand debut buff
it's ok, we like retarded people here anon, welcome

>> No.13907754

Can Luna get her usual 4k with pokemon today?

>> No.13907765

>>13907179
the number of members is from last month?

>> No.13907775

Yamada's stream will count for the next day so 38k is the number to beat right now.

>> No.13907777

>>13907643
Both of them barely play Apex.

>> No.13907787

>>13907179
How much were Ayame's memberships again? I'm curious how much is she getting passively without any streams.

>> No.13907792

Gen 6 actually is senpai killer. All Hololive number drop when gen 6 stream. Fubuki cant even reach 30k.

>> No.13907793
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13907793

JUST

>> No.13907802

>>13907583
rumbling down...rumbling down...rumbling down~

>> No.13907812

>>13907754
She's already showing signs of plateauing and she isn't even at 2k.

>> No.13907825

>>13907579
Apex is unironically a debuff game for Lauren.

>> No.13907826

>>13907765 (me)
i mean Coco shouldn't be there if that were the case but I dont understand the first number.

>> No.13907831

>>13907777
Sorry, should've been more clear. I meant to say I thought both of them were previously high ranking Apex streamers and that Nijisanji hired them hoping that they'd play Apex, but it turns out only one of them is Mr. Apex.

>> No.13907844

>>13907733
not really. Shion still gets good numbers. Pekora is just another flavor of kusogaki as well.

>> No.13907845

>>13907754
no
new girls are sucking most viewers
even watame is low for her usual sc reading.

>> No.13907857

Gen 6 might be the second Gen 3, still too early to say but it so far only Lui screwed up under the spotlight. She's great during collabs but her solo choices haven't been great, especially when you compare her to her genmates.

>> No.13907865

>>13907742
That doesn't explain Pekora's numbers keeps tumbling down right now

>> No.13907868

>>13907735
>>13907775
Is this actually highest Shadowverse stream ever?

>> No.13907887

>>13907649
Everyone who discusses live views operates on peak CCV. Not a single streamer or a company says "I average X viewers.", they always say "This stream reached X [peak] viewers", because it's always a bigger number. It's only fair that we're do it too.

>> No.13907889

>>13907775
It's rising anon....tsuyoi!

>> No.13907891

>>13907792
> new gen debuts
> anon is shocked that tourist viewers watch the new gen due to debut buff hype
> anon is retarded

>> No.13907893

>>13907792
she already did schizo kun, it was even worse earlier

>> No.13907904

>>13907765
It's the total number of people that have chatted while being a member since Jan 1.

>> No.13907910

>>13907857
each gen needs a stinker and right now it could be either lui or samura chick

>> No.13907912

>>13907868
For Hololive? Yes. La+ getting her ass beat and her raging is hilarious.

>> No.13907934

>>13907857
iroha is also low her zatsu only got numbers becasue it was a collab.
i do think people are expecting too much on these girls and will fall hard after.

>> No.13907955

>>13907887
For YouTube. For Twitch average is used a lot since raids absolutely fuck any peak comparisons.

>> No.13907959

>>13907865
We've already explained it. She finished the last gym and numbers started plummeting. Normal Pokemon numbers aren't that great and Nuzlockes are basically normal Pokemon until you get to gyms and elite 4

>> No.13907962

>>13907910
Samurai is playing ringfit and she's the FFXIV addict while it's the most popular MMO in the world. I think she'll do ok.

>> No.13907961

>>13907826
First number is how many members (green names) have chatted basically, the second one is how many people in total (greynames + green names) have chatted.

>> No.13907980

Cygames about to DM cunny with piles of cash for reviving their game

>> No.13907992

>>13907962
>FFXIV addict while it's the most popular MMO in the world
Shiburin...

>> No.13908010

>>13907910
Tbf, we havent seen kenshin's power level yet due her pc busted

>> No.13908014

>>13907865
a new fresh streamer can still temporarily suck away long time viewers who easily get blinded.

>> No.13908022

>>13907857
Cunny and Orca are super stars for sure
Samurai and Pinkcat just so so
Lui is a failure

>> No.13908025

>>13907792
That is actually lame. So they just sucking viewers from other senpai instead of attracting new one
But of course we have no sure way of knowing that

>> No.13908035

>>13907959
There's no point explaining to a pekora schizo.

>> No.13908038

40k
Jesas

>> No.13908041

>>13907910
Poor kakage....

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>>13907793
SIT YO ASS DOWN LUNA. I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A WEDGIE AND SHOVE YOU INTO A LOCKER AGAIN YOU MIDGET

>> No.13908047

>>13907959
It's okay nousagibro... we get it

>> No.13908050

>>13907980
sponsorship in all but name. Neat way to get around the youtube "this is an advertisement" debuff.

>> No.13908068

>>13907857
DDLC is a poor starter choice, needs to be kept until later because the only reason it gets numbers is for people to watch the chuuba freak out. It's too early for people to get a grasp of Lui's character so it's basically a wasted slot of a game.

>> No.13908077

>>13908025
just wait a few weeks

>> No.13908101

>>13907980
I know is asking too much, but Cygames should back a Hololive tournament between talent.
Gets money, a new arc for the company and more eyes to the game. Its a win win situation.

>> No.13908110

it was good while it lasted nousagibros... Our queen's reign is over...

>> No.13908123

>>13908068
This. It's a debuff game for debut. Should've played something niche, popular, or doing zatsu

>> No.13908126

>>13907370
>2021/11/31
>HAHAHAAHA, NIPS IN CHARGE OF GREGORIAN CALENDAR
The correct order of Gregorian calendar is Day-Month-Year (31/11/2021), Americans have no right to say anything about the japanese date format

>> No.13908145
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>43k
Stop the count!

>> No.13908150

>>13908077
We all knowned it's debut buff. We just want to have fun lol.

>> No.13908153

>>13907649
Peak is better since you can game the average by not doing SC readings at the end of your streams. If you're interested in Average CCV you should just look at watched hours.

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>>13908126
Point to me on the calendar where November 31 exists retardchama

>> No.13908195

>>13908123
>zatsu
She already did on the afternoon time anon chama

>> No.13908199
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13908199

Fubuki is unfazed, and she's just fishing for the 6th time

>> No.13908239

Oh shit the whale already 400k+ subs!

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>>13908199
>meanwhile
Chimkin...

>> No.13908252

>>13908199
Sometimes you just gotta fish for the shiny, numbers are a side-effect as friend loses her mind.

>> No.13908275

13908110
stop falseflagging nijinigger

>> No.13908287

>>13908241
>Still beat Luna playing Pokemon

>> No.13908289

laplus is giving me pekora vibes in the way they run a stream. Some nousagis will surely jump ship.

>> No.13908300

it was good while it lasted chumbuds... Our queen's reign is over...

>> No.13908322

>>13908177
I didn't saw that lol
But my point remains

>> No.13908325

So basically, the new gen just sucks up all the tourists from JP prime that don't have an oshi yet. Leaving the old gen with their core fans...

>> No.13908330

>>13907179
>Ayame 13k
fucking hell

>> No.13908355

>>13908241
I always find it interesting how despite only getting 2-3k CCV on her debuff games, she still manages to get 100k in vod views whereas NijiEN stays around the 15-30k range for the same CCV

>> No.13908371

>>13908330
there's no justice in this world. Ayame is hard proof

>> No.13908373

>>13908041
Nah, it's partly Kakage's fault for giving Lui that atrocious wing hair

>> No.13908374

>>13908325
I think Gen 6 is escape velocity for hololive in Japan, people were aware of it but were waiting for an new gen to attach to and they came out swinging. Niji is buried 6 feet under.

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13908379

YTjp should partner them on gaming

>> No.13908393
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13908393

>the le+
Raging loli toxic gamer and shadowverse is a quite new niche even for hololive. Potential: very high
>the gura killer
Basically Noel but can actually sing well. Potential: very high
>the pink lamy
Nothing special yet. Potential: medium
>the selen
Debuff herself too soon. Potential: low.

>> No.13908406

>>13908322
you interjected to make a point about something nobody was talking about nor asking for
do your reading and comprehension reps before replying retard

>> No.13908410

I don’t get it, how is the new gen considered good if they all were small indies for years? Wouldn’t they get big numbers back then if they’re so talented and entertaining? I was told this is how numbers work, it’s not worth to watch and pay attention to midgets.

>> No.13908414

Was the gen 3 concert really so bad that it just killed interest in gen 3? Both Pekora and Marine have garbage numbers today.

>> No.13908415

>>13905568
Wouldn't mind Priconne x Holo crossover

>> No.13908430

>>13908374
Niji came out swinging first with Edengumi though...

>> No.13908435

>>13908101
Cygames has collabed with literally everyone. Adding Holo cards seems like a no brained. Tie it to a company wide tournament and rake in the cash.

>> No.13908437

>>13908393
>Basically Noel but can actually sing well.
couldnt even do vampire

>> No.13908455

>>13907715
All those countless hours of superchat reading are going to attract memberships.

>> No.13908462

>>13907179
I track that data for IRyS and mine shows ~5.9k / 138k if I exclude member streams and unarchived streams. I might try to go through it again to see if I did anything wrong since my numbers are different.

>> No.13908468

>>13908437
Noel can't do Vampire either but the difference is that Noel will just barrel through the song anyway no fucks given

>> No.13908502

>>13908414
>35k with pokemon
>20k with a kusoge mobile game
>garbage numbers

>> No.13908510

>>13907787
500¥. So she's basically netting 60k USD every month before superchats.

>> No.13908512

>>13908414
Marine was a shill stream and pekora got 35k peak what more do you want.

>> No.13908515

>>13908468
i mean she couldnt even try to sing it.
she lacks power on er voice

Also on te note of la+ eveytime she loses she is losing 1.5k viewers

>> No.13908514

>>13908414
marine was doing a shill stream for some kusoge and pekora got 37k.

>> No.13908525

Pekora schizo is really going all out today.

>> No.13908530

>>13908199
She mentioned that this episode 6 was suppose to be the last shiny hunt stream...now is part 2 of ep 6 i guess

>> No.13908538

>>13908468
That just means she's better than Noel, not that she sings good
She's basically, may god forgive me for uttering these words, Japanese Risu. She's going to rely on the voice gap gimmick for her utawakus

>> No.13908540

>>13908510
It wouldn't surprise me if the member churn is greater than 50% over 11 months though.

>> No.13908545

What triggered Pekoschizo? Not even bothering with EN vs JP or Nijiposting

>> No.13908561

>>13908414
Yes
They can't dance
They are disappointing
Failure

>> No.13908564

>>13908502
brainrot is real in /#/ now days.

>> No.13908562

>>13908415
They had one for global launch (ens played it) and Luna has a pretty up to date account she plays once in a while on stream iirc. Priconne is pretty self contained at this point in JP though since it would be near impossible to get all the units you need to be competitive in clan battle with how old it is and the sheer autism. At the core Priconne is a bonsaige side game with a 5 day esports time every month (if you want)

>> No.13908571

>>13908510
that's assuming everyone that has ever been a member this year is still a member now, that's oviously not true for anyone

>> No.13908589

>>13908430
Leos was thought to be a speedrunner, a retro gamer autist. Turns out he's a boring lil fish. Lauren and Axia was thought to be the next chronoir and apex bros, turns out their relationship didn't click and it's fake. Oliver was the runt to communicate with other branches. Lain... Lain is just there. Nothing special about her. No wonder viewers didn't click.

>> No.13908592

>>13908410
Suisei was indie for years until she joined Hololive. Of course indies have talent but not everyone can get the backing of a conpany or get their talent to the world.
You can even find 2views right now and be better singera than most holos or more entretaining. The thing is always luck or backing of the big fishes. Sometimes both.

>> No.13908598

Mikofag gets mad because muh 2nd strongerst holo

>> No.13908628

>>13908414
>Garbage number
Lol no. Pekora still maintain her usual 20-30k range in the face of Laplus
She's doing fine

>> No.13908662

that much people really got baited

>> No.13908666

>>13908545
previously they were using gen 3 to shit on holoen, now they using holoX to shit on gen 3. it's tiring, no one bites now

>> No.13908670

Numberchads how do we save La+? She's losing 6 to 0...

>> No.13908684

>>13908589
That sounds like a tremendous scouting failure, which is weird since they had a year to pick out people.

>> No.13908701

>>13908670
Well, she should roll some gacha
That deck is fucking older than some anon here ngl

>> No.13908707

>>13908589
So they just hired people who looked good on paper but in the end couldn’t mesh well. They really pushed the whole wave unity thing at the start too.

>> No.13908718

>>13908628
and gatcha fubuki

>> No.13908723

>>13908540
Oh no doubt but there’s also never 100% engagement. A surprising number of people member/sub and either never chat or even only rarely watch streams live and instead watch archives

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>>13908592
For every holo that makes it past the auditions there's thousands like pic related who couldn't cut it without brand backing

>> No.13908743

Reminder debut buff is over in 3 weeks

>> No.13908750

>>13908598
Reminds me of the anon who was super excited about Miko possibly overtaking Pekora in watched hours for Nov after sportfes week

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Luna...

>> No.13908752

>>13908718(me)
gacha

>> No.13908759

>>13908707
Edengumi collabs are when they get their highest numbers though, tourist.

>> No.13908772

>>13908743
You can't stop retards from taking baits.

>> No.13908794

>>13908589
better be careful with criticizing edengumi an anon here who keeps saying edengumi scs are really high and that one phony cover is doing really well will go mad

>> No.13908808

>>13908743
keep coping, gen 6 as the new top dog is here to stay

>> No.13908817

>>13908751
She already got over 6k on an earlier stream. This time slot has sucked for everyone except the new debuts

>> No.13908851

New debuts not only bring in loads of tourists looking to find an oshi, they bring in loads of schizos looking for a cause.

>> No.13908861

>>13908743
Your wish nutsagis
Cunny and Orca are super funny streamers so far
They will steal Peko's fans

>> No.13908932

Selen earned more money last month than Ina, Ame, and Fauna combined

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This may literally be the biggest SV stream ever. Cygames should be driving a truck full of cash to Cover HQ so they can start their in game collab right now. Hell they should’ve done it 6 months ago

>> No.13908981

>>13908861
You can't even shitpost properly. Orca is going full cute pon route, she hasn't done anything funny yet.

>> No.13908995

I just remembered Ina was nominated for Young Content Creator of 2021, an event sponsored by Yahoo JP. I forgot the link, what's the update on it?

>> No.13909010

>>13908750
Nta but she had a chance, but she would have needed to be her old self in streaming hours to make it happen. But then again pekora had an insane month so even if Miko pushed, it might not have been enough.

>> No.13909023

>>13908851
>bring in loads of tourists looking to find an oshi
seems to be sucking other girls views mostly.

>> No.13909028

>>13908941
I dont think is the biggest ever but sure is for this year. They need to fund a tournament or a collab ASAP.

>> No.13909033
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13909033

To remove any doubt, here is the monthly chart for Superchats for NijiEN

Here is the main takeaway
>Selen reigns supreme, even without the birthday windfall
>Petra and Rosemi can't get traction
>Finana is stable
>All of Elytrhia improved on their debut numbers (mostly because they had more days monetized)
>Pomu took a tumble but is fighting back to the top

It is not a bad showing but I don't think the branch is profitable as a whole, as opposed to some chuubas (Selen, Pomu, Nina, Millie, Elira) being overachievers and carrying the bottom half.

>> No.13909039

>>13908932
Ame never opens SC since 2021 anon...

>> No.13909052

I rate yamada, she has the comedian quality. Lets see how she deal with jrpgs if she is going to play it.

>> No.13909055

>>13908932
Sc sure. I mean it was her birthday wasn’t it? Make more actual money? Kek. Ina makes more than she knows what to do with apparently. Hololive is a side gig/advertising for her actual career

>> No.13909064

>>13908941
>Peak, December 2016, 30k
Mios Dios, and this is with YT CCV fuckery.

>> No.13909066

>>13908932
she had to stream three times what they did anon.

>> No.13909083

>>13908510
12,991*500 = 6,495,500 ¥ * 0.0089 = $ 57,800

After YouTube's cut (30%) = $ 40,400
We don't know how the much the talent gets from that but my guess is 20% to 25%, something between $8k to $10k

>> No.13909094

Nina starts streaming in one hour, would be interesting to see how Wave 3's strongest star stacks up to any gen 6s streaming way out of JP's primetime slot

>> No.13909105

>>13909052
She was talking about playing Dark Souls. This girl playing games that will just push her shit in would be really funny and would probably draw big numbers.

>> No.13909118

>>13909010
The month where Miko was supposed to have the best chance also coincided with one of Pekora's best months. Don't think it was possible even if she pushed herself desu.

>> No.13909141

>>13909083
Huh? Multiple sources have suggested 50-60% where are you getting 20%

>> No.13909162

>>13909023
Of course that happens too, but those viewers tend to be the less dedicated ones that weren't already invested in someone.

>> No.13909181

While I dont think this sentiment belongs in this thread, I still wish Laplus actually acknowledges that the numbers she achieve for now is all thanks to hololive and her senpais.
While I am a fan of her numberfagging and grinding for numbers, I just fear that it may all get into her head, cause some drama, and cripple her growth.

>> No.13909189

>>13909083
>>13909141
20% of the gross is a conservative guess.

>> No.13909214

>>13909181
The only gen 6 that directly addressed that on their debut stream was Lui, who name-dropped Botan and referenced what she said last year. Don't remember any of the others doing so.

>> No.13909246

>>13908373
The thing is he draw some of the hottest big tities thick anime chick. I don't know why he over design her model so much.

>> No.13909255

>>13909189
That you pulled from your ass? Duck out of here with your retard make believe bullshit. Do your archive reps Jesus

>> No.13909257

>>13909181
She's, today she did everything possible to boost her genmates' numbers, including moving her stream from prime-time to fucking midnight on a weekday.
She also tweeted about Aqua's birthday. In terms of direct acknowledgement, Koyori in today's stream reacted to having Mio in her chat saying she and her genmates have a feeling of being surrounded by legends and they wonder if they belong there sometimes.

>> No.13909271

>>13909162
This, if they can convert some of the casuals into merch-buying, membership-joining, SC-throwing fans, it's still a net win, like with NijiEN.

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>>13909181
>I still wish Laplus actually acknowledges that the numbers she achieve for now is all thanks to hololive and her senpais.
Anon, this goes without saying

Imagine someone joining Elon Musk's SpaceX and thinking
>YEAH, I JUST SENT A ROCKETSHIP WITH A FUCKING CAR TO SPACE MYSELF
That's dumb, nobody thinks that.

Anyone joining an existing venture knows damn well they're riding in the wake of their senpais. They just don't need to kneel every third second to acknowledge that, it is implied

>> No.13909279

>>13909189
how new

>> No.13909324

>>13909275
the problem is that her strong kayfabe does not reflect that image at all

>> No.13909338

>>13905665
Mount and Blade 2

>> No.13909347

>>13909257
>including moving her stream
Not arguing about the rest but can people stop bringing this up lmao. This is just standard behavior, if anyone purposely overlapped with their genmates during their first week they're retarded.

>> No.13909354

>>13909257
Every gen goes through this arc they are certainly well aware of it. The fact it happens is a testament to Hololive’s success: the fan base keeps growing and are confident based on track record that the new girls are worth checking out. Wouldn’t want the old guard dominating and never having new talents emerge right? Heh. That would be a slow but steady path to irrelevance

>> No.13909366

>>13909324
And it doesn't need to. Think Aqua and "Hololive Resistance" and Haachama and "HoloEN domination plan".

Kayfabe doesn't play any role in these things

>> No.13909436

>>13908941
When Mori had her Shadowverse arc I was tracking players on Steam and it didn't cause a significant rise of players. I doubt it will here either.

>> No.13909464

>>13907742
Wasn't Sana post-debut stream only 10k?

>> No.13909474

>>13909436
When I think shadowverse, I think mobile version first.

>> No.13909477

>>13909436
That's cause mori didn't care and it wasn't fun or entertaining at all. Lacunny has already surpassed the entire shill effort of cygames both in viewers and entertainment value. Probably made a bunch of others me included nostalgic watching her ancient deck get cocked by new shit.

>> No.13909481

>>13909275
council....

>> No.13909489

>Chloe kicks off her zatsudan by acknowledging 400k subs
Based numberfag

>> No.13909508

>>13909436
Who the fuck plays Shadowverse on steam? Isn’t it like 99% mobile players like every other gacha?

>> No.13909531

>>13909489
To be fair, her entire chat was saying "congrats on 400k!"

>> No.13909569

Anyone have a feel for the the pulse of the JP audience? I love that the new gen seems aggressive and a bit numberfaggy. Laplus being annoyed at her sub cuts even plays into her kayfabe. I think they ride the line between being aggressive and being too blatant well. But what do the JP bros think?

>> No.13909575

>>13909508
I know nothing of shadowverse but at least on GBF, it’s all browser players even though it’s a mobile game.

>> No.13909592

>>13909489
Oh she's streaming, time to dislike

>> No.13909594

>>13908564
>now days
kek

>> No.13909621

>>13908410
The thing is these 2views tried back then and the feedback wasnt as visible. Now they have the chance to enter the spotlight, they prepared their best to be more than before and giving it their all. This also in line with how their senpais grind to where they are now. That sense of responsibility and pressure to put extra efforts after handing silver plate by the senpais push them further. Good example is 5th gen. The were and are going extra on what they do.

>> No.13909627

>>13909569
I could go collect some 5ch screenshot but ehhhhhhh, I think they like it

>> No.13909636

>>13909594
let's just say it's accelerated with the release of this gen.

>> No.13909646

>>13909575
Is that really true? I know the most devoted gacha players usually play on emulators or desktop for a host of convenience reasons. But the vast majority of the casual playerbase is on phones in the toilet on break so to speak

>> No.13909691

>>13909569
>plays into her kayfabe.
No that just her shitty personality

>> No.13909693

>>13909621
Gen 5 didn't go anywhere near as hard as gen 6 are right now. Partly because the Aloe bomb literally dropped the day after they finished debuting.

>> No.13909716

>>13908941
fuck no. i aint going back to that shitfest game

>> No.13909728

>chloe starts
>laplus los like 10k viewers
yeah this girls will recline hard after debut buff wears off
>>13909569
agrresive yeah but i dont feel anything new from them. i was expecting at least one original but they all just came with covers from already popular songs. i feel they lack originality and that will hurt them inthe future.

>> No.13909736

>>13908861
Orca's current zatsudan is pretty average to be honest. !Nyanners, La+ and Gozaru had much more talking power. She might push it through just with her moegoe though.

>> No.13909743

>>13909646
At higher raids you’re constantly spamming refresh and in Japan the ping is so low that it takes less than a second to refresh where overseas it takes 3-5 seconds.
Raids die in literal seconds which makes it harder for overseas players to grind.

>> No.13909774

>>13909693
Man it’s incredible how hard that hamstring their generation. So many what ifs. It seems like they managed to land on their feet and recover for the most part but Jesus. One of the only girls too broken to save

>> No.13909775

There's honestly a lot less Pekora bait threads than I thought. People probably doesn't care about her anymore

>> No.13909791

At this rate, FGO is gonna sponsor Hololive first than niji to shill their dying game for next year.

>> No.13909790

>>13909105
What are the chances that Bamco gives blanket permissions for From games in February, instead of one or two shill streams for Elden Ring and that's it?

>> No.13909834

>>13909791
FGO literally have Aniplex backing it up, they can do anything

>> No.13909839

>>13909790
None

>> No.13909841
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time to watch laplus hemorrhage numbers as they move to watch chloe

>> No.13909854

>>13909728
I will say gen 6 seems quite solid overall but Compared to Myth they lack… I dunno, a certain wow factor? Risk taking?

>> No.13909870

>>13909790
Non-zero, I'm thinking less likely than not. Blanket perms is pretty tricky to get, and it's really only the fact that Nintendo has chilled the fuck out about their online shit and that Sega, Capcom and SE like Cover that they were able to negotiate blanket perms.

>> No.13909907

>>13909790
From self-publishes in Japan.

>> No.13909909

>>13909774
Her getting taken down early probably helped them in the long run. Imagine if all that crazy shit with her dad and other stuff went down while she was still an active Holo during the middle of the 2020-2021 vtuber boom? She was always a ticking time bomb and it's probably for the best it happened right at the start.

>> No.13909934
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>98,821: Chloe (Hololive)
>69,684: Aqua (Hololive)
>43,709: Laplus (Hololive)
>36,587: Koyori (Hololive)
>36,110: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>34,904: Pekora (Hololive)
>33,108: Fubuki (Hololive)
>30,780: Fubuki (Hololive)
>29,017: Koyori (Hololive)
>28,935: Suisei (Hololive)
>28,114: Laplus (Hololive)
>23,182: Subaru (Hololive)
>19,789: Marine (Hololive)
>19,378: Lui (Hololive)
>17,772: Noel (Hololive)
>17,050: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>17,036: Miko (Hololive)
>16,001: Lui (Hololive)
>14,982: Hayato Kagami (Nijisanji)
>12,941: Rushia (Hololive)
>12,715: Noel (Hololive)
>12,152: Rushia (Hololive)
>11,831: Calli (Hololive)
>11,804: Mito (Nijisanji)
>11,545: Kronii (Hololive)
>11,326: Hololive (Hololive)
>11,004: Ina (Hololive)
>10,824: Miko (Hololive)
>10,635: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,269: Kanae (Nijisanji)

>> No.13909970

>>13909790
Blanket perms seem unlikely. I don’t get why they don’t give all their old game perms to help build hype for a new release though the way SE did with Pekora. Are they worried about lost sales on Dark Souls at this point?

>> No.13909986

>>13909854
I would describe that feeling as seeing an athlete being pumped full of steroid from the get go. They are strong but there's not a hint of hard work behind that strength, at least one that you can see yet
I will give HoloX some time, if they actually take their job seriously then whatever number they get are justified and I will give them credit for their hard work
Otherwise...

>> No.13909988

>>13909854
they seem textbook chuba
>zatsu
>sing
>games
they are good at it but maybe myth and gen3 +coco really spoiled me. hell not even some bilinbgual ones for branch collabs.

>> No.13909992

>>13909934
when did silverboy last actually get silver?

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>>13909934
SULTAN, I KNEEL!

>> No.13910049

>Pokemon and Soulsborne perms are wasted on Niji
>Chink games are wasted on Niji
They thought they had an upperhand on Hololive with how much they're being restricted, but they aren't. It's not helping their numbers either. Livers are genuinely uncreative fucks, picking from a pool of only streamers/gamers with no other talents was a bad choice.

>> No.13910069

>>13909988
How is gen3 any different from your definition of textbook chuuba?

>> No.13910074

>>13909934
Remember when 25k would get you in the top ten? Holy shit. You can feel the number rot setting in…

>> No.13910120

>>13909909
Eh, it wouldn't hurt her career much if it had happened later on instead of right at the start. All she needs to do is ask for help and if she was already established help would be easy to get. Well that's still all she needs to do right now.

>> No.13910169

>>13909934
>24 Hololive
>6 Nijisanji
24 10ks... 7 30ks... What the fuck. AND THE NEW GEN 6 HADN'T PLAYED MINECRAFT YET.

>> No.13910203

>>13909934
Kazoo finally showing up and beating Pekora but it's on the wrong day, debut buffs too strong.

>> No.13910216

>>13909934
doesn't really feel like most of those numbers up there are deserved, we'll see what happens after the debut effect but so far i'm not feeling the originality and charisma i did with Myth

>> No.13910245

>>13909775
Good. All the schizos kept using was the same old tired shit bait anyway. It wasn't even funny anymore.

>> No.13910252

>>13909033
A very large chunk of Selen's SC came from her birthday streams on the 30th. From the 1st to the 29th, her SC was roughly $17k, but double-milking her bday for $14k brought it up to roughly $31k. Of course, some people might have saved their donos for the birthday stream, but celebrations are celebrations, and people give more specifically for those.

>> No.13910278

>>13910069
gen 3 and coco perfected the formula, gen 6 are just more of the same and we don't need anymore chuubas who can't even speak english, they're going to be deadweight in EN-JP collabs and that's not going to bode well for their growth in the future

>> No.13910338

>>13910216
Whale already earned her spot, I think personally.

>> No.13910353

>>13909693
>>13909774
And where they are now is testament of their whorth.
>Polka being la creatividad
>Botan taking in any shills, improving vocal, and overall performing reps
>Lammy went entrepreneur with her sake bussiness and other merchs
>Nene went all out into that Sora route

>> No.13910368

>>13910216
>doesn't really feel like most of those numbers up there are deserved
Seethe nijikek

>> No.13910371
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officially M O G G E D

>> No.13910379

How many times did Gura mention "please subscribe"? Gen 6 seem begging from the start.

>> No.13910393

>>13909854
Only Mori and Gura blew everyone away. Mori acting cute at first then dropping a banger from the start. Gura being a mystery with the A tweet, ghosts everyone and did the "a" along with Ride on time to completely blow everyone over. Muse dash god and comedic timings in horror games also helped her. Then, her ultimate karaoke that pulled everyone even the JPs in.

So far, La+ surprises me the most and then Koyori.

>> No.13910397

>>13910371
Kek so they already fighting between themselves, what a gen

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>> No.13910416

>>13910216
>deserve
No such thing. Whatever numbers you get are yours to keep, it doesn't matter if you had to do a
>plastic bag in head erotic asphyxiation risk of death ASMR until 100k subs milestone
stream, if you get numbers they're yours

>> No.13910417

>>13909489
How long did it take Mumei and Kronii to reach 400k again?

>> No.13910440

>>13910069
is mostly they are the ones tat set the precedent.
but they all seem so samey
hell not even one artist beyond singers.

>> No.13910459

Hmmm? Pekora mention PEBOT again

>> No.13910460

>>13910402
kek

>> No.13910469

>>13910252
>$14k
Yeah she's not gonna fully enjoy all that money without releasing any merch

>> No.13910479

>>13910440
Seethe more nijinigger.

>> No.13910484

>>13910379
That never happened Gura never begged for pity subs.

>> No.13910491

>>13910417
Kronii :38 days after debut
Mumei : 68 days after debut
IRyS: 1 day after debut

>> No.13910510

how long until orca can't use crocodile tears to fuel viewership? what'll be the thing keeping her view count up in the future?

>> No.13910547

>>13910379
gura is probably one off if not the most anti-numberfag holo

>> No.13910563

>>13910379
never
almost none of ENs celbrate milestones anymore except maybe kiara. Jp is another story there is a reason many do karaokes until some goal.

>> No.13910568

>>13910510
After monetization ?
She might switch to Rushia style .

>> No.13910581

>>13910510
I actually wonder why Oga have to make a statement specifically about the Orca. Does he see something that we don't? Because I never seen a Holostar talk about the girl like this
Hope he's joking

>> No.13910589

>>13910491
Maybe they need to stagger new Gen releases like 1 week apart to prevent culls.

>> No.13910607

>>13910491
Truly council is a failure.

>> No.13910623

>>13910440
Sounds like you have misplaced expectations. Like some other anon said, holo has countless casual fans just waiting to find a chuuba they can call their oshi and attach themslves to. People usually won't get as attached to a chuuba as the people who were following them since the start after all. If this new generation manages to fish enough people from this sea of casuals, they've more than fullfiled their purpose.

>> No.13910628

>>13910568
who is rushia's competition besides orca?

>> No.13910629

>>13910510
wasn't her roommate doing well for an indie? she'll probably be doing more of whatever she did then

>> No.13910638

>>13910402
>Banner for next thread

>> No.13910645

>>13910581
Probably PTSD? but that's rrat. Not the right thread to talk about

>> No.13910671

>>13910628
Rushia doesn't really have competition in terms of weaponizing her menhera tendencies.

>> No.13910715

>>13910581
rrat: an ex of his

>> No.13910719

Koyori hit 300k subscribers!

>> No.13910725

>>13910169
Nijibros should be fucking thankful Kuzuha is there to prevent a clean swipe

>> No.13910729

https://twitter.com/2434subscriber/status/1465697218720337921
Sango with the second growth in terms of subs in the entire company.

>> No.13910731

>>13909141
I really don't want to start a timeloop but...

No one ever said anything about the membership money. Coco once talked about Surperchat, she said that viewers give 30% to YouTube and another 50% to Cover.
There are many problems in taking her words seriously.
- She has a NDA that doesn't allow her to share such details
- She said that in the middle of a meme review stream

Her statement can be either
- True. She was dumb or brave enought to tell the right number.
- False. She said a false value so she wouldn't get in trouble.

Let's assume that she said the truth. We can extract 2 interpretations from what she said.

>Viewers are giving 30% to YouTube and another 50% to cover

1st case
- Cover gets 50% of the entire value. For a $100 SC, YouTube would get $30, Cover another 50$ and the remaining $20 goes to the talent/streamer.

2nd case
- Cover gets 50% after YouTube's cut. For a $100 SC, YouTube would get $30 and the remaining $70 would be split evenly between the company and talent ($35 to each part)

>> No.13910747

>>13910628
For SC ? Lamy maybe.
Lamy are called Lamy "mama", not the style orca does.

>> No.13910757

>>13910719
omedetou koyot

>> No.13910763

>>13910628
>Rushia competition
You have to be an extreme menhera to compete with Rushia. Otherwise just don't bother

>> No.13910777

>>13910731
It is obviously the second case

>> No.13910784

>>13910563
Cultural differences? Ironically it seems like the west is much more averse to seeing people honestly trying to promote themselves and grow.

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>>13910589
Gen 6 still suffered from considerable culls.

>> No.13910801

didnt expect chloe to be keeping with laplus but she is

>> No.13910811

JWU, did susan do some reverse culling or something, the girls seems to have rocketed upwards again

>> No.13910821

>>13910581
>Hope he's joking
Yes. I swear, the autism here.

>> No.13910839

>>13910811
Chloe got 30k back, Samurai got 11k.

>> No.13910842

>>13910731
You can just go to the stream/clip where she said that and link it, y'know.

>> No.13910856

>>13910581
Probably talking from experience but then again him talked about the Orca will also bait viewer attention towards him and with his upcoming new costume release...

>> No.13910857

>>13910763
No, really, Rushia money sucking field is something else.
I NEVER superchatted any girl, even my oshi (Haachama) and in more than one occasion I felt compelled to fork some cash on Rushia's direction.

She's EVIL!

>> No.13910881

If the culling stops, we might able to use gen 6 800K milestone compared to Gura's 1M.

>> No.13910896

>>13910731
Youtube takes the cut off the top, other streamers have talked about this. Cover and the talent splitting the rest 50/50 seems plausible and fair.

>> No.13910898

>>13910731
50% after the YT cut was around from way back at /jp/ when niji superchat was used to shit on aifags.

>> No.13910915

>>13910729
She'll be as popular as Leos soon and then Edengumi will truly be Selejo tier.

>> No.13910942

>>13910731
Artia also said that she gets $1.25 for every Twitch sub. Implying that after 50% Twitch cut Cover takes 50%.

>> No.13910994

>>13910623
Laplus losing 10k viewers when chloe started just tells me that they dont have enough power by temselves to keep these tourist and without anything unique to offer i feel they will just steall some existing viewers form other girls more than fishing new viewers.

>> No.13911011

>>13909791
Which Holo even have the patience to sit through hours of FGO stories? It's not good stream content
But maybe if she know her shit and can discuss the lore with viewers, that would be a godsend. But we know no Holo can do that

>> No.13911047

>>13911011
>stream content
Just do Gacha

>> No.13911068

>>13910994
No one's going to bring in 10ks of viewers from thin air or from their 2-view past lives. It's gotta come from somewhere.

>> No.13911078

>>13910994
It's 2 am in the morning, stop shitposting.

>> No.13911088

>>13910811
Seems like YTjp cant ignore hololive anymore, especially with cunny+ complaining about it in front of 160k+ people

>> No.13911110

>>13910857
Yup more dangerous than the Orca..but i wonder why Oga didnt mentioned about her tho...

>> No.13911132

>>13911068
They jumped sip instantly that is why i dont trust tourist most of the time it was a blatant drop on viewership.

>> No.13911138

>>13911110
That's why I was wondering, why her specifically

>> No.13911158

>>13910994
>almost 2 am
>week day
At least try a little harder if you're going to shitpost.

>> No.13911177

>>13910731 (me)
My opinion is that those japanese companies working with idol stuff are know for paying very little.
You can often find foreign youtubers in Japan laughing at how ridiculous are some deals that they get offered, usually 10% after giving away the ownership of the channel.
Saying that Cover is paying them 20% to 25% of the revenue of a channel and IP they never owned is a very optimistic guess.

>> No.13911189

Pekora is really talkative today, she have a lot of things to say

>> No.13911226

>>13911110
Do you really think he has the balls to shit on one of the most famous senpai? With thousands of schizo at her back?

>> No.13911233

>>13911110
Maybe he too got inspired to numberfag and she is the most popular gen 6 so why not joke about her

>> No.13911261

>>13911177
My opinion is that you should probably post your opinion as its own thread.

>> No.13911269

>>13911189
Lots of holos going slightly (or very) hera with the new girls. It's nothing really surprising. It's natural to few a little (or very) insecure when new competition arrives.

>> No.13911289

>>13911110
Obviously, because Oga superchats Rushia himself. He can't admit his own failure, he needs to pretend like he can quit anytime.

>> No.13911297

>>13911132
The number will stabilize after 2-3 weeks. It's normal

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>>13911132
Stop lying faggot, she had a steady decline in viewership.

>> No.13911330

>>13911269
Pekora SC reading really is her best contents ngl. She always have a bunch of bizarre stories to told

>> No.13911335

>>13911189
Longest she stayed around to chat after gaming for a long time, and she's raking in SC because of it.

>> No.13911338

>>13911189
A lot of people has been talkative recently
Noel, Choco and Lamy just had an off collab earlier, and I swear I never see the three of them together

>> No.13911346

Has it been confirmed that watching an embedded stream through holodex doesn't count as a view? I've seen this rumor pop up lately.

>> No.13911353

>Chloe talking more about Western stuff and using more English when doing a zatsudan in non-JP hours
this girl is dangerous

>> No.13911366

>>13911189
Just wonder, former Niconico streamers had to deal with more chaotic environment. I heard that Niconico is darker than YT and Twitch.

>> No.13911380

>>13911313
Laplus started losing viewers when she won a match. looks like most people only watched her to see a damn female kid being bullied at a card game.

>> No.13911396

>>13911335
To be fair she's been skipping it for a few days. It's nice so sit comfortably with the other 12k nousagis and listen to her rambling

>> No.13911424

>>13911338
It's usually Noel Aki Lamy, just that Choco replaced Aki this time. They'd probably have included Aki too but it seems from Aki's twitter that she's busy with some work these few days.

>> No.13911425

>>13911297
my worry is that they will just share their viewers with the other girls. After debut buff is gone.
>>13911313
that is 1k gone every minute into chloe starting that is worrying for me

>> No.13911427

>>13911177
>Your opinion
VS
>2018 JK gumi nijifags + 2020 Coco Holofags

>> No.13911444

>>13911353
She could be a real Rushia contender or at least a white Lamy.

>> No.13911464

>>13911380
Either bully opponent or get bullied gain views .

>> No.13911472

>>13911366
I don't want to go too deep about it because it's dox. But just know this, Pekora, from what I heard, used to be VERY different, in a negative way
Her current self is a lot nicer and I'm glad she changed

>> No.13911482

>>13911444
How many lamies do we have now?

>> No.13911510

>>13911482
Lamy, green Lamy, pink Lamy and maybe white Lamy

>> No.13911518

>>13911425
No need to worry about that, it's pretty much an established fact already. Viewers will be more diluted across the board after they stabilize.

>> No.13911521

>>13911482
Half of gen 6 seem to be inspired by Lamy.

>> No.13911558

>>13911482
People call Fauna Green Lamy, but Kronii is more "Lamy" than Fauna.

>> No.13911563

>>13911482
>>13911510
Iroha is a yellow Lamy

>> No.13911581

>>13911510
Coyote doesn't seem to be lamy-like temperament wise

>> No.13911595

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPtJ6Ydv6fs
Starting in 5 minutes, will she take viewers away from Chloe?

>> No.13911614

>>13911595
who?

>> No.13911630

>>13911482
As many as they /become/.

>> No.13911642

>>13911614
The strongest liver from the latest Niji debut

>> No.13911659

>>13911642
who and what?

>> No.13911661

>>13911642
>liver
Kill yourself nijicuck.

>> No.13911665

>>13911614
your mom
no, literally

>> No.13911680

>>13911581
Not temperament-wise but she's already angling for a horror off-collab with Botan, likes sake, is doing morning streams, wants to do ASMR streams, and wants to do drinking streams.

>> No.13911690

>>13911642
They had a new debut?

>> No.13911692

>>13911680
if koone and wamy had a daughter

>> No.13911697

So I just check out Peko thread. Seem she already planned to return to Minecraft when they update the server
Also the PEBOT thing was about how that's the only instance she collabed with a kouhai

>> No.13911723

>>13911595
Shitposting aside, I really enjoyed this game. I sort of hope some more EN vtubers play it.

>> No.13911732

>>13911697
Also lol people are throwing SC at Pekora rn to congratulate her for reaching 1.8 million subs

>> No.13911775

>>13911732
>lol people are throwing SC at Pekora rn to congratulate her for reaching 1.8 million subs
What's funny about that?

>> No.13911872

>>13911775
Nah I just enjoy seeing the SC bar moving at the speed of light. Things like that don't happen often you see

>> No.13911893

FBKing really is the queen of gacha huh? She always has the strongest number in every gacha trend

>> No.13911906

>>13907179
So the top three is in order:
1) Coco (graduated, can never again stream)
2) Ayame (doesn't stream)
3) Suisei (doesn't do member streams)

I'm detecting a pattern here. I expect any chuuba who wants a steady monthly income ought to follow this road to its logical conclusion.

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