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Previous thread >>14247720

>> No.14261820

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.14261875
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>54,726: Mio (Hololive)
>38,429: Rushia (Hololive)
>33,347: Laplus (Hololive)
>28,799: Chloe (Hololive)
>25,378: Iroha (Hololive)
>25,360: Subaru (Hololive)
>24,904: Iroha (Hololive)
>24,858: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,902: Chloe (Hololive)
>22,660: Koyori (Hololive)
>22,456: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,826: Calli (Hololive)
>16,367: Patra (774 Inc.)
>15,493: Shion (Hololive)
>14,850: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,572: astel (Hololive)
>14,027: IRyS (Hololive)
>13,702: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,993: Ina (Hololive)
>12,885: Kanata (Hololive)
>12,846: Flare (Hololive)
>12,676: Nene (Hololive)
>12,584: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,469: Miko (Hololive)
>12,438: Mumei (Hololive)
>12,417: Lize (Nijisanji)
>11,676: Botan (Hololive)
>10,159: Lui (Hololive)

>> No.14262064

yagoo should graduate 3rd gen quickly or hololive will be over, look at the state of jp new gen, just a few days and now everyone just back to watch 3rd gen, the new gen cant even break past 300k views anymore while marine pekora and others get 600k+ views easily, its just not fair for the new members and the overall growth of the company, after all hololive is a group talents and not a solo talent

>> No.14262080

1) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Archived Karaoke
2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The Radio Station
3) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 52,239 - Announcement
4) Shion (Hololive) - 93,815 - Outfit Reveal
5) Chloe (Hololive) - 63,541 - Unarchived Karaoke
6) Ayame (Hololive) - 59,998 - Return Stream
7) Mio (Hololive) - 54,729 - Anniversary Totsu

Gold medal events:
8) Shion 3D live (Today)
9) Mori new outfit
10) Chloe SC opening
11) Ame new outfit
12) Gura new outfit

Winning streak: 16 days

>> No.14262151

>>14262064
Ssshh go back to sleep

>> No.14262174

It's over for EN, Mori being a singer is her thing and she can't even enter in the top 10 with that.

>> No.14262308

>>14262174
Is over for nijiJP they can´t even have more entries in the chart than the lazy ass HoloEN.

>> No.14262600
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Here is the ranking for the combined Holo-Niji roster for December so far.
For this list it will only be considered the chuubas with 2 or more streams this month (you can call it the "Ayame rule")

Here is the list of medians of peak CCV

>01) 35553 :: Usada Pekora (holojp)
>02) 34701 :: Shirakami Fubuki (holojp)
>03) 34685 :: Sakamata Chloe (holojp)
>04) 32927 :: Houshou Marine (holojp)
>05) 31793 :: Hololive (holojp)
>06) 30569 :: Laplace Darkness (holojp)
>07) 29753 :: Kuzuha (nijijp)
>08) 28540 :: Hoshimachi Suisei (holojp)
>09) 27905 :: Kenmochi Toya (nijijp)
>10) 24904 :: Kazama Iroha (holojp)
>11) 24241 :: Oozora Subaru (holojp)
>12) 23492 :: Eli Conifer (nijijp)
>13) 22699 :: Hakui Koyori (holojp)
>14) 21409 :: Gawr Gura (holoen)
>15) 19748 :: Sakura Miko (holojp)
>16) 18649 :: Murasaki Shion (holojp)
>17) 18144 :: Momosuzu Nene (holojp)
>18) 17050 :: Ibrahim (nijijp)
>19) 16029 :: Shirogane Noel (holojp)
>20) 15650 :: Takane Lui (holojp)
>21) 13238 :: Amane Kanata (holojp)
>22) 13200 :: Shishiro Botan (holojp)
>23) 12997 :: Uruha Rushia (holojp)
>24) 12494 :: Lize Helesta (nijijp)
>25) 11934 :: Minato Aqua (holojp)
>26) 11814 :: Kagami Hayato (nijijp)
>27) 11617 :: Mori Calliope (holoen)
>28) 11496 :: Nekomata Okayu (holojp)
>29) 11354 :: Shiranui Flare (holojp)
>30) 11331 :: Yukihana Lamy (holojp)
>31) 11029 :: Ninomae Inanis (holoen)
>32) 10726 :: Tsukino Mito (nijijp)
>33) 10599 :: Ookami Mio (holojp)
>34) 10582 :: Nanashi Mumei (holoen)
>35) 10032 :: IRyS (holoen)
>36) 9915 :: Ouro Kuronii (holoen)
>37) 9114 :: Ange Katrina (nijijp)
>38) 8766 :: Fuwa Minato (nijijp)
>39) 8234 :: Yashiro Kizuku (nijijp)
>40) 8175 :: Hoshikawa Sara (nijijp)
>41) 7940 :: Kanae (nijijp)
>42) 7732 :: Tsunomaki Watame (holojp)
>43) 7319 :: Watson Amelia (holoen)
>44) 7291 :: Ceres Fauna (holoen)
>45) 6952 :: Takanashi Kiara (holoen)
>46) 6490 :: Furen E Lustario (nijijp)
>47) 6356 :: Nui Sociere (nijijp)
>48) 6302 :: Gwelu Os Gar (nijijp)
>49) 6294 :: Tokoyami Towa (holojp)
>50) 6093 :: Sasaki Saku (nijijp)

>> No.14262687

oh boy the selenigger is going to seethe

>> No.14262735

go sana go! kill them filthy nijiniggers!

>> No.14262827

>>14262600
Goorah...

>> No.14262846

>>14262687
>>14262735
>need to leech other people to not get midget numbers
Saniggers are just sad

>> No.14262868

>>14262735
You would seriously spend time watching Sana than watching Selen? I think anyone making that decision has a mental illness. Most of those people watching Sana probably don't know about Selen

>> No.14262871
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>>14261875
Holo JP: 20
Holo EN: 4

>> No.14262884

>>14262846
sorry are you talking about Selen or NijiEN?

>> No.14262938

>>14262868
and here comes seething selenigger, right on schedule

>> No.14262942

>>14262600
sounds way too early for this

>> No.14262954

>>14262846
Lol Selen leeches on Rpr and Event Apex to get close to Sana's Median.
Ohh yeah not to mention her Birthday stream lmao

>> No.14262994

>>14262868
ina like sanner so i like sanner, simple as

>> No.14263020

>>14262871
You forgot our friends
Niji JP: 2
774 Inc.: 1

>> No.14263038

>>14262868
kys falseflagger

>> No.14263043
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>>14262868
>You would seriously spend time watching Selen than watching Lui? I think anyone making that decision has a mental illness. Most of those people watching Selen probably don't know about Lui

>> No.14263048

>>14262994
I think if Selen was in hololive, she would be getting the same views that Gura gets. She already outperforms Gura in donations

>> No.14263051

>>14262846
>>14262868
GO SANA GO!

>> No.14263070
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Sana playing a buff game vs Selen playing a debuff game

>> No.14263085

>>14263048
>Apex
Hell no.

>> No.14263093

>>14263070
what was selen playing?

>> No.14263109

>>14262868
>implying I’m not watching to see what kind of sleep paralysis demon Mumei creates

>> No.14263120

>>14262871
Meanwhile, nijisanji...

>> No.14263129

>>14263093
Rogue Legacy, literally never heard about it before.

>> No.14263130

Say it anon, say that Selen is the XQC or Tyler1 of ENvtubers kek.

>> No.14263133

>>14263093
she's still playing, check for yourself
https://niji-mado.web.app/home

>> No.14263155

>>14262868
i like her sunny personality. also like my holos brown.

>> No.14263162

>>14263070
are all selenfags this fragile or is it just this one retard?

>> No.14263165

>>14263129
Now I get why you like Selene, zoomer anon.

>> No.14263190

>>14253637
ALL HAIL GAWR GURA, THE QUEEN OF THE MIDGETS

>> No.14263201

>>14263048
i can't even laugh at this troll because this is what dragoons actually believe

>> No.14263217

stop replying to the selenigger schizo

>> No.14263230

>>14263162
Anon the board gets flooded with selen posts every other week, seleniggers unironically believe that she is gods gift to this green world and get extremely salty when that gets challenged.

>> No.14263261

>>14263230
i wonder why her fanbase is so much more evangelical than the other chuubas

actually I guess pomudachis used to be that way too

>> No.14263331

think im gonna take a break from /#/ for a while. this place is so fucking retarded it makes hlg look good

>> No.14263356

>>14262868
I'm perfectly aware of both Sana and Selen. I am choosing to watch Sana. Selen is just not my cup of tea. I think anyone that is /here/ is aware of the purple anime girl because of how obnoxious you pollute the catalog. I think many people are avoiding her because of that. If you want to attract a casual Holo Fanboy, you've got to be less obnoxious with your baits. It smells like begging and noone likes beggars here.

>> No.14263358

>>14263261
they are basically the same fanbase, and it all boils down to the idea they have that Selen deserves more views than she actually has and by refusing to watch her you're denying her her rightful birthright or someshit. Same deal with Pomu

>> No.14263367

>>14263261
They are just pomufags that jump ship since pomu cut her breast off

>> No.14263398

>>14263261
NijiENfags are desperate. They cling on who gets the highest numbers hoping she'll beat HoloEN.

Maybe if HoloEN don't stream for 2 years then yeah NijiEN can win LMAO

>> No.14263471

>>14263331
Seeya tomorrow anon

>> No.14263473

>>14262868
Why would anyone CHOOSE to watch nijisanjiEN? Some of the worst numbers and shit content. Hell I'll rather watch vshojo or holoID, hell I'd even turn gay and watch the Holostars, then watch a second of Selen

>> No.14263484
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>>14263331
A lot of twitter and more leddit tourist these days while the resident's SEAnigs shizos are still around too

>> No.14263578
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Sana is a nigger

>> No.14263580

>>14263261
They unironically believe that the only reason Selen and pomu don't have more viewers is because nobody knows about them, so their solution is to just shove them into everyone's face. You know, like Mormons. Doesn't help that they genuinely believe that Selen and Pomu are unironcially superior to everyone else on the market so even if you aren't annoyed by how much they get spammed you'll get turned off but the size of their massive egos.

>> No.14263623

>>14263331
You'll be back soon anon. No one can resist the NUMBERS!

>> No.14263636

>>14263261
they're extra mad now cuz their goddess is being left out from the niji book thing.

>> No.14263641

>>14263331
see you in an hour

>> No.14263667

>>14262064
Go find someone as entertaining as them then faggot.
Even Rushia who's the worst of the 3rdGen is more entertaining than the orca or the cunny.

>> No.14263715

>>14263636
Oh yeah, that niji book thingy. Management already playing favorites.

>> No.14263746

>>14263580
That's true tho. If Selen and Pomu were in hololive they'd have at least 10x more viewers and subs. That's how the hololive brand boost works.

>> No.14263777

>>14263636
what niji book thing

>> No.14263785

>>14263746
sure but that's not exactly a sales pitch now is it?

>> No.14263799
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Today's superchats

>> No.14263823
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>>14263777

>> No.14263844
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>>14263799
Also yesterday's as a bonus because my internet was down last night and I forgot to post it later lol

>> No.14263860

>>14263799
>3d debut
>3rd anniversary
>birthday
it's like they're having celebrations everyday.

>> No.14263924

>>14262868
You are probably also a fan if Reddit Duck

>> No.14263932

>>14263799
Go Aoi!

>> No.14263942

>>14263823
This would be a non-issue if Finana was in instead of Petra. What were they thinking?

>> No.14264027

>>14263799
Woah Aoi birthday? Lets fucking go Aoi chan

>> No.14264106

>>14263823
Why would they replace Finana with Petra? I mean it would make sense to only do it with a single wave, but this makes no sense and only invites rrats.

>> No.14264158

Redpill me on Mel. How did she recruit the strong gen since gen 3? I thought she was just your average e-girl on Nico.

>> No.14264229

>>14264027
No it was her anniversary, also her highest earning stream ever by quite a margin

>> No.14264389

>>14263924
Miko lost, get over it.

>> No.14264394

>tfw nobody numberfags subs anymore
Did Gura completely ruin that meta?

>> No.14264419

>>14263746
That's how brands work, period. Talents can only do so much to incline a brand, the company and management staff are way more responsible for lifting thier brand of the ground

>> No.14264433

>>14264394
people stopped talking about it ever since it became clear that Chloe wasn't going to break Gura's record to one mil

>> No.14264445

>>14264394
There was plenty of sub numberfagging about Chloe passing all of Council already

>> No.14264495

>>14264394
There were multiple discussions about Orca's Subs tho.
But she slowed down and doesn't seem she'll be able to get 1M before the year ends

>> No.14264528

>>14264433
Chloe is still outpacing Gura though? Slowing down but still on track to hit 600k 5 days earlier than Gura

>> No.14264558

>>14264394
We only focus on things where nijisanji is still competitive like total audience, median peak ccv, gold medals, and SCs.

>> No.14264573

>>14264528
Irys did it faster so that's not really a record, and also your reading comprehension reps

>> No.14264669

>>14264573
I didn't mention the 500k subs record Irys holds. Take your own advice, cretin

>> No.14264711

>>14264528
Gura had slower initial growth, but maintained it a lot longer than Chloe. Chloe shattered Gura's initial numbers, but is now gaining fewer subs a day now than Gura when she was at 800k. I call it "The Irys Effect". Shooting to 600k faster than anyone, and then falling off a cliff.

>> No.14264744

>>14264669
Irys also holds the 600k record

>> No.14264746

>>14264711
What is Gura's secret?

>> No.14264792

>>14264746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC7vlMQD10Q
observe

>> No.14264808

>>14264746
coco

>> No.14264849
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>Hololive
>Only 2 people live

>> No.14264943

>>14264792
His hololive videos get 10-20 times the his normal view count. I can see why clippers clip hololive, it pays the bills. I bet it's fake, holo reaction videos always are. Cover probably pays them.

>> No.14264989

>>14264849
>9k for Sana
RIP selenigger

>> No.14265023

>>14264849
>3 council members
>US prime time
>No competition
>Can't break 10k
Reclining

>> No.14265036

>>14264943
and this is why you'll never understand Hololive's secret, because you'll just come up with an endless series of excuses instead of trying to understand why

>> No.14265038
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>>14264792
The difference in number is ... Concerning ...

>> No.14265118

>>14264989
Holo box pushing

>> No.14265141

>>14265036
Luck. That's why. All their business practices don't work without it. It can't be sustained. Memes are fickle.
>muh box
Has never worked
>muh family atmosphere
No one is that dumb
>muh talent
Many agencies have far more talented people

>> No.14265175

>>14265038
So this is the power of hololive

>> No.14265203

>>14265141
well if its luck diff, better luck next time.

>> No.14265231

>>14265141
case in point

>> No.14265243

>>14265141
Lol Cope more nijinigger

>> No.14265297

>>14265203
Luck always normalizes to a mean. Other agencies will catch a meme and will catch fire.
>>14265231
What point? The things people credit to hololive is just a product of luck. Cover threw a dart and you fags drew a bullseye around it.

>> No.14265310

>>14265141
Holo cope nijinigger

>> No.14265332

So this is going to the list?

>> No.14265372

>>14265297
>Other agencies will catch a meme and will catch fire.
and then you buy into the excuses you come up with and try turning it into actual advice, this is why nobody treats nijiniggers seriously. The very basis upon which they try to build upon is flawed and filled with cope

>> No.14265382

>>14265141
>muh luck
cope

>> No.14265470

>>14264158
>I thought she was just your average e-girl on Nico
there's your problem anon. There's plenty of information out there about Mel's roommate and her career but you just decided to remain ignorant.

>> No.14265511

>>14265372
The vtuber industry is very volatile. In just a couple of years, up8 and .LIVE went down and then Kizuna Ai retired, the former most popular vtuber retired. You're stupid if you think Cover's reign will last forever.

>> No.14265596

>>14265511
And if and when that day comes you'll have no idea why too because you'd rather cling onto what makes you feel better rather than try and understand the truth

>> No.14265605

> lost against asalamy
Just drop council

>> No.14265658

>>14265511
I know you're probably a coping nijinigger anon. But you're right about the volatility of the industry and how a new thing may take over. Of course it's probably not niji since they have alot of baggage already and they're technically on decline in their peak era post Four heavenly kings+Oyabun.

>> No.14265724

>>14265511
Cover have gone past the vtuber line, they are more comparable to idol agencies

>> No.14265784

>>14265658
Things already changed a lot within Nijisanji. Their female members declined and their male members inclined massively. The industry is always changing.

>> No.14265799

>>14265605
>heh no way, it's 3 council member ffs, there's no way wamy-
shit its real roru

>> No.14265882

>>14265784
Their female declined because people prefer to watch Hololive.

>> No.14265894

>>14265784
hell yeah it's time for the boys to take charge in this new era

>> No.14265957

>>14265605
kek
Kronii will save EN dignity today
>myth ttrpg 10k
>sanner collab 9k

>> No.14265968
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Nijisanji and their multi POV Uno Collab. Why oh why?

>> No.14266055

>>14265511
I think you're forgetting that Cover wasn't formed yesterday. Hololive was actually there when upd8 went down. In fact, Hololive was there before Nijisanji even existed. And after all this years they still here, and it ain't because of luck.

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>No schedule since more than half a year ago
>Every stream is practically guerilla since you're only aware of it 2 to 4 hours before she goes live
>Streaming schedule is sporadic and random
>Barely streams 3x a week if at all
>A good amount of her content is paywalled concerts
>Doesn't read superchats at all
>Still streams to 20k+ peaks
Explain her success

>> No.14266127 [DELETED] 

>>14265968
I told ya, they don't want to bother with having to decide who splitting the money from the collab so having everyone set up their own viewpoint sidesteps that issue

>> No.14266145

>>14266096
Still more consistent than Aqua kek.

>> No.14266169

>>14265968
I told ya, they don't want to bother with having to deal with splitting the money from the collab so having everyone set up their own viewpoint sidesteps that issue

>> No.14266180

>>14265605
b-butt the gloves are off, this anon said so >>14218286

>> No.14266184

>>14266096
PURE CHARISMA also she's my wife.

>> No.14266193

>>14265968
hey but at least is 8k viwership
maybe some more dick from IPN to make 10k total a reality

>> No.14266199

>>14265511
Hololive is far bigger than any of those ever were on their best days. Sure, the bigger they are, the harder they fall, but its also much harder to actually get them to fall. They aren't new either as Cover debuted Sora in 2017. They are part of that OG gen.

>> No.14266223

>>14266096
Suichan wa kyou mo kawaii!
suisex

>> No.14266228

>>14266096
Her growth is already slowly starting to stagnate. If she doesn't start to actually stream again, in 6 month she will join Aqua and other streamers-turned-wannabe idols in obscurity.

>> No.14266236

>>14265511
Except those things didn't die because of the volatility of the industry, they died because they were mismanaged.

>> No.14266238

>>14265605
Sana debuff is real.

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>>14266096
she's cute

>> No.14266245

>>14265957
Mumei's "I make noise!" stream in about 2h

>> No.14266250

>>14266199
>but its also much harder to actually get them to fall
its because that fucking watamage rig everything

>> No.14266297

>>14265511
this is the "three gorges dam will collapse any day now" of nijicopes

>> No.14266302

>>14266055
Two things made hololive into what it is today; chinks mass clipping them and flooding the yt algorithm with nothing but hololive and .LIVE going down. They weren't even an idol group before the .LIVE fanbase migrated, so Yagoo lied to you about that part.

>> No.14266339

>>14266228
You could have said this six months ago and you'd be wrong

>> No.14266348

>Saving first karaoke for monetization stream
I'm proud of my minmaxing numberfag daughter

>> No.14266377

>>14266184
wtf Toko! get out of /#/ !!

>> No.14266399

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers

>> No.14266407

An collab bewteen council can barely beat Selen birthday party. That just sad holobros you guys need to do better.

>> No.14266482

>>14266407
should've use Petra 9.4k to bait anon..

>> No.14266514

>>14266339
Six month ago she streamed, though. This two past month is the first time in her whole career when she outright abandoned her channel in favor of doing idol stuff.

>> No.14266544
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>>14266377
No! Also don't forget to listen to my phony cover 8 hours from now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_vV3bE3GNo

>> No.14266546

I just realized that the Council is the punching bag of both side in the number threads, for different reasons.

>> No.14266552

>>14266407
The entirely of nijiEN funneled into one channel still can't beat a 3 girl council collab on the lowest holoen channel. That's just sad nijisisters you guys need to do better.

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Lui barely gets 15k live viewers, VOD views dont budge, no singing stream incline, its over. A pleasure spamming these threads with HoloX numbers, I'll be supporting Lui elsewhere.

>> No.14266616

>>14266302
>They weren't even an idol group
Explain Sora then.

>> No.14266653

>>14266348
may I ask who?

>> No.14266654

>>14266609
Don't give up, Lui-nee!

>> No.14266672

>>14266096
>No schedule since more than half a year ago
>Every stream is practically guerilla since you're only aware of it 2 to 4 hours before she goes live
That's more common among Hololive than the ones who actually make schedules and it usually gives better results. I don't know why anyone actually bothers scheduling their streams, the only thing it does is cause disappointment when something has to be canceled.

>> No.14266680

>>14266609
godspeed hagfriend

>> No.14266684

>>14266514
She actually didn't stream all that much though. She was setting up for her sololive at that point

>> No.14266696

>>14266616
Ai clone

>> No.14266712

>>14266514
Oh so you weren't here in 2020.

>> No.14266719

>>14266609
See you in her eventual birthday stream anon.

>> No.14266750

>>14266609
She's a real hag. It's hard for her to incline. That's just reality.

>> No.14266797

>>14266750
Didn't stop Botan, her real issue is her design

>> No.14266809

>>14266684
She streamed enough. Taking a one or two week long break once in a while is totally fine. The problem starts when you schedule turns into whatever the fuck is Aqua doing now, when you literally stream once or twice a month. That never happened with Suisei up until now. Now it's actually happening and it ain't gonna end well.

>> No.14266847

A question is obvious that Gura will reach the 4 million sub mark by this time next year but which Holo will breached the 2 million sub mark and which will reach the 1 million sub mark by this time next year

>> No.14266895

>>14266797
Botan doesn't exactly have high viewership. Lui will have about the same number as Botan once she stabilizes.

>> No.14266921

>>14266847
Best estimate for 2m is Mori, Pekora have slow sub growth but her incline are always too random, Marine is a good dark horse.

>> No.14266935

>>14266609
I really like Lui. Too many normalfags out there with shit taste

>> No.14266940

>>14266797
To be fair, she's doing about as well as Botan number-wise.

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>>14266847
>two million
see pic related
>1 million
Pretty much everyone except Iofi and Anya

>> No.14266967

>>14266609
she's gonna be mio tier, 8k-10k streamer. Good enough for me.

>> No.14267004

>>14266895
I mean Botan does pretty well, she's upper mid tier Holo
>>14266940
Yes during debut buff, I think she'll be about Polka tier once it's over

>> No.14267033

>>14266809
Aqua's problem is she keeps spamming sololives in quick succession. That shit won't end well because people would get bored fast. She should limit it to twice a year for sololive and keep streaming consistently.

>> No.14267051

>>14263823
I cringe every time I remember that Ichikara changed their name to Anycolor in anticipation of a HoloEN style incline.

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>> No.14267098

>>14267033
Aqua wants to be an idol.

>> No.14267108

>>14267051
And it doesn't matter anyways, Nijisanji is still Nijisanji. It's not like people think about cover first before hololive.

>> No.14267119

>>14267053
WE GOT TOO COCKY HOLOBROS THE YAB MADE VCHADS INCLINE AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.14267120

>>14266809
Suisei did say she would be streaming less to pursue her music career but promised to at least do 3 streams weekly. Doesnt seem too different from her usual stream schedule

>> No.14267127

>>14267051
Anycolor sounds so stupid in English. It sounds like a new startup company that will crash and burn in a year.

>> No.14267137

>>14267098
It's her best running gag so far.

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>>14267119

>> No.14267270

>>14267137
How be an idol without any interpersonal skills is a mystery to me. Don't you need actual charisma to be an idol? Singing is all good but people don't actually support idols because they're good singers

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>>14267127
The logo doesn't help, it looks like something you'd find plastered on a t-shirt, not a tech company

>> No.14267294

>>14263844
Noripr's SC game really is strong huh

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>> No.14267344

>>14264106
They fell for the Gura Killer meme kek

>> No.14267363

>>14267270
Not streaming is just too stupid too, it's like you're cutting the roots you grew on.

>> No.14267377

>>14267344
probably started it themselves lol

>> No.14267378
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Here something Nijisanji En does actually beat Hololive En. Is the fact that Nijisanji En youtube shorts are doing way better than youtube hololive en shorts by a lot. Hololive EN shorts can pretty much be consider an flop.

>> No.14267385

>>14267098
She should balance it with streaming to create clippable moments to make people her fans. She's autism incarnate so she can just stream normally. Her lives would be even more successful if she did this.

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>>14267272
The old logo had so much SOVL. They really deserve to go down after replacing it with this garbage.

>> No.14267466

>>14267270
She can just stream like what she did before. People like her because she's cute and she is always a tryhard at games. Idols are never about talent anyway. Too bad APEX traumatized her. Fuck APEX.

>> No.14267483

>>14267378
Anon, HoloEN shorts is doing better than NijiEN shorts.
Is still midget numbers for both but there's still some difference.

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>>14267378
meds

>> No.14267521

>>14267377
At least on here, half of it was based on erroneous roommate speculation, so I doubt that.

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>>14267378
Anon...

>> No.14267530
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14267530

Both Cover and Hololive are successful & recognizable brand names and logos which is one factor of their incline whereas Anykara and Nijisanji are not.

>> No.14267579

>>14267530
>soulless play button
Sorry, but their old logo mogs it: >>14267456

>> No.14267584

>>14267456
I liked the dice logo more

>> No.14267632

>>14267378
>shorts
NijiEN is performing better? No
HoloEN is a flop? Yes

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>>14266609
>I told you to move the ballad stream at primetime Lui-nee!

>> No.14267676

>>14267632
both are a flop and a waste of resources

>> No.14267691

>>14267120
EVERYONE who follows Hololive outside her oshis and top holos numberfagwise knows Suisei is more focused on music like Sora and Azkii. She has other stuff outside streaming like radio, song recordings, etc.
The reason why she grew despite not streaming much compared to other holos is because her main attraction is that, her, actual, idol side unlike the other holos which are more known as streamers and entertainers.
It also helped she has hits on the vtuber sphere like Next Color Planet.
Also, lol at that schizo using Aqua, the reason why Aqua is falling behind doing idol gimmicks is due her being known more as an Apex streamer than an idol, unlike Suisei. Thus her "downfall" started the moment she decided to put Apex on the back burner to focus on her idol activities. And I bet the same would happend to Suisei if she decided to focus more on her streamer persona than the idol one Altho her making viral her Hi Honey and the whole suicopath persona shows she may also survive only as a streamer if she ditch her idol side

>> No.14267703

>>14267579
cope

In 10 or 20 years, when people think about a blue play button, they'll think off Hololive and their successful idol vtuber entertainment ventures. Who cares about a dice and a pac man puking a rainbow.

>> No.14267766

>>14267456
>dice
Feels like a casino

>> No.14267797

>>14267691
Don't come crying holofag when she start declining cause you guys said the same thing about mito. The streamers who go all in about performances start to decline stop being hypocrites.

>> No.14267835

>>14267272
>ANY COLOR
>only black & white

even logo says they're full of shit

>> No.14267855

>>14266809
The different is suisex is good at singing and people tune in for exactly that. Aqua is a streamer first idol second. People dont watch her for her singing and dance, they tune in to her concerts cause it's their fav gamer maid. In suityan case, it's the opposite

>> No.14267932

>>14267632
To be fair, Niji EN shorts are posted on an official channel with 174k subscribers and they started posting them 6 month ago, while Holo EN shorts are posted on a shitty 57.7k subscribers channel that exists only a month. And holos have 4 shorts so far that broke 100k views, while niji have 1.

>> No.14267940

>>14267579
>play button
Without knowing anything about Cover you can kinda guess that it's an entertainment company or has something to do with videos.
>dice with Japanese words besides it
Pachinko

>> No.14267943

>>14267676
and this is why you're not in charge of the company

>> No.14267980

>>14267943
and this is why you are so delusional

>> No.14268038

>>14267980
>No u
cute

>> No.14268053

>>14268038
stay mad my friend

>> No.14268056

>>14266616
Sora literally started out as a tech demo/"virtual JK" because, well she was a literal high schooler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSoxKELBbU0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3D9zWF_FjE

She didn't pivot into being a "virtual idol" until April 2018. The idea of forming a virtual idol group was a slow one, as Sora performed at live events to get the Hololive name out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImARgZkRg-I

Eventually the other Holos would be dragged into live events in 2018/2019 to sing and dance. Then Hololive became associated with idol-esk performances and the rest is history. Hololive probably would have stayed a normal v-tubing online only corporation if it wasn't for Sora's dream to become an idol.

>> No.14268059

>>14267766
That's what nijisanji is. A gamble on talent and viewership.

>> No.14268060

>>14266241
>pubes
Yuck

>> No.14268090

Look at these retards barking at each others Kek

>> No.14268108

>>14266895
>Lui will have about the same number as Botan
I don't think so.
Botan has her FPS gimmick.
Also her laugh is very enjoyable.

>> No.14268116

>>14268053
anyone who gets mad over retards spouting retarded shit on this mongolian cave painting forum need to reevaluate their life

>> No.14268141

>>14268116
ogey

>> No.14268187

>>14266609
Her mom was right.

>> No.14268195

>>14267272
>>14267456
Any reason for why they made this change when LazuLight debuted?

>> No.14268265

>>14268195
I'm going to assume they bought into the whole thing about Nijisanji being too Japanese to be recognisable in the west and changed their name to fit, not realizing that they changed the wrong name.

>> No.14268276

>>14262600
>All NijiEN are above 1k in both median and average
Are you ready for that jump in the chart this time?

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9.5k+
NijiEN straight up inclining

>> No.14268332

>>14267797
Anon, Mito was a variety streamer before a performance one. Of course the shift of direction affected her because she wasn't known as a perfromer but as a variety streamer. Meanwhile, Suise was known as a performer since day one.
...who would had thought, now we have Suisei schizo. Was next? Sora schizo?

>> No.14268353

>>14262600
>Hololive is at an incline and are world beaters!!!
>barely 68% of the top 50

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>>14268311
oops wrong pic

>> No.14268418

>>14266847
>>14266949
Quite a lot of Hololive members will not get 1M subscribers in less than a year from now

Roboco
> 14.5 months
Baelz
> 15 months
Luna
> 16 months
Fauna
> 16.5 months
Mel
> 17.5 months
Risu
> 20 months
Sana
>25 months
Azki
> 28 months
Reine
> 28 months
Anya
>42 months
Iofi
>43 months
Aki
> 49 months

>> No.14268437

>>14268366
>>14268311
Yeah, they are inclining. I mean it was a few weeks ago they couldn't hit 8k in colabs but now 9.5k isn't that unusual. Still midgets.

>> No.14268450

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad

>> No.14268482

>>14268332
there was a sora schizo last week

>> No.14268497

>>14268450
Stop spamming faglord

>> No.14268530

>>14268497
stop coming up with nijicopes then

>> No.14268571

>>14268482
>>14268332

The sora schizo is just a salty nijifag
But the SHubaschizo is a crazy 35P

>> No.14268575

Shion will get the gold today, right?

>> No.14268590

>>14268353
Only 7 days in retard
>>14268450
Stop adding throwaway statements into the list faggot

>> No.14268594

>>14268575
most likely

>> No.14268599

>>14267797
The difference between Mito and Suisei is that Suisei has been music focused since the very beginning.

>> No.14268635

>>14268575
Who will get more golds, Shion or Nijisanji? Could Nijisanji beat Chloe?

>> No.14268638

>>14268332
Cover should just dump that good for nothing failed idol and put cunny as the face of Hololive.
Cunny not only sings better but also has the numbers to back up.
CUNNY SHOULD BE THE ONE IN WHICH COVER SHOULD BE INVESTING!

>> No.14268663

>>14268594
any predictions ?

>> No.14268685

Hey let's have a proper topic you fags, It's pretty concerning that Miko is being cannibalized whenever she tries to enter competitive timeslot lately. It already happened twice(Pokemon cards stream and her 4th Pokemon playthrough), but hopefully it's just a coincidence.

>> No.14268708

>>14268575
>>14268663
She'll have Pekora, Marine, Rushia and Okayu as guest.
100k+ is very possible

>> No.14268730

>>14268685
It's based. Miko is a whore and her numbers going down is justice.

>> No.14268736

>>14268663
70k-80k

>> No.14268771

>>14268685
Basically she's the #2 and #3 of many holofags.

For example, Nousagis would either watch Miko or Gen 3 when pekora is not streaming.
But would leave her when their oshi is on.

>> No.14268779

>>14268685
Miko is one of the first stops for tourists, especially EOP tourists. When they find someone they actually like that's not as shallow as their interest for Miko she gets left behind once they stream.

>> No.14268824

>>14268771
Can confirm, I'm subatomo btw

>> No.14268845

>>14268685
>>14268730
Nice try, you need a better materials. Same shit every day.

>> No.14268851

>>14267691
Sora and Azki ain't exactly supporting your point. Azki views were in the shitter when she was only focusing on music. Sora completely destroyed her growth during 2019 and only started recovering when Covid hit and she started doing more streams.

>The reason why she grew despite not streaming much compared to other holos
That's just plain false. Suisei used to stream plenty. She would occasionally cut down on the number of streams when she prepared for events or was swamped with work, but you would still get 1 or 2 streams per week which is totally fine.

>>14267855
If people tune in for her singing, explain why her songs on other channels aren't doing too hot. Her cover with Moona has Moona-tier numbers. Her cover with Kagura Nana sits at 600k. None of her songs on Toko channel has hit a million yet. And it's not like Toko is a debuff singer.

I guess, all these fans of her voice just not interested in her other songs so far for some reason, huh.

>> No.14268862

>>14268685
When will Miko and Subaru's streams overlap again?

>> No.14268889

>>14268779
>>14268824
It's not that bad tho since atleast they still watch her.
Poor Roboco, Aki and Mel are always getting ignored. Their Median is lower than Sana

>> No.14268910

>>14268862
It happened yesterday anon.

>> No.14268911

>>14268730
>>14268685
>>>/reddit/

>> No.14268924

>>14268685
Are you ever going to get over the fact Miko didn't saviorfag that random Niji male once Hololive got popular?

>> No.14268950

>>14268911
>>14268845

>> No.14268967

>>14268845
Niji sisters is like desperate hausewife. Use holo vs holo everytime they got fucked.

>> No.14268977

Since when did /#/ become /hlg/?

>> No.14269013

>>14268924
What's this about?
Any context?

>> No.14269015

>>14268889
>b-b-b-b-but roboco aki mel
Is this seriously the angle you're going for?

>> No.14269018

>>14268889
>Mel
But Sana never mog kuzuha anon

>> No.14269034

>>14268977
When Kuzuha lost to Moona.

>> No.14269056

>>14269034
They can't use kuzuha no more so they use miko vs subaru.

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>>14268977
When this happened

>> No.14269097
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14269097

>Hololive
>Lamy live

>> No.14269113

>>14269056
Nasakenai nijitachime

>> No.14269163

>>14269097
https://twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1468400065580462080/photo/1
HolOEN is doing this right now.
They're lazy as hell but atleast today they're doing soemthing.

>> No.14269180

>>14269068
>10k on debuff game in the morning
King, I kneel

>> No.14269187

>>14268977
Since Holo started dominating in terms of numbers. /#/ are big number addicts, what else did you expect?

>> No.14269189

>>14269097
Gotta give EN bros some chances to chart on today's rank anon pls understand

>> No.14269199

>>14269015
tf you talking about faggot, he was responding to someone bringing up Miko in a competitive slot.
Aki has literally only streamed this year during Pekora's slot.

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>>14267272
>The logo doesn't help
agreed

>> No.14269248

>>14269180
Kneeling on 10k... This is new low niji sister..

>> No.14269259

>>14268977
>WE like big numbers
>Just a few Nijis are getting +10k

>> No.14269280

>>14268977
When Nijis stopped giving numbers. This is a numbers thread.

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Can she break 10k?
These Lunch Talk stream will kill her Median/Average.

>> No.14269407

>>14269245
That shit's good but fuck is it hard to open.
>>14269280
They do give tons of numbers by volume. They are still the biggest, even though hololive has a few more stand outs it doesn't make up for volume even in their buff month.

>> No.14269414

Since we know Shion's getting the gold today, what will get rhe silver?

>> No.14269423

>>14269387
She better should get 10k

>> No.14269466

>>14269414
La+

>> No.14269506

>>14267940
Nike has a check mark for logo
Apple has a fruit for their logo

>> No.14269508

>>14269407
>volume
Not so much when you judge by CCV during prime times. Holo usually have way higher CCV with way less ongoing streams.

>> No.14269531

>>14269414
La+ (Monetization/Singing) can be a contender.
or any of the usual top hitters like Pekora or Marine.

>> No.14269588

>>14269414
https://youtu.be/GSNTsfyVu2Q
Duck

>> No.14269661

>>14269588
Marine is in there..
So Shion's Birthday 3D is gonna be pre-recorded huh? or maybe just the guest parts

>> No.14269683

>>14269661
Obviously, blame the chinkflu

>> No.14269685

>>14268056
>April 2018
Good. Now check your idolbu timeline. When did they debuted?

>> No.14269724

So we're going to have another bloody hour later won't we? where everyone streams right after Shion's birthday.

>> No.14269771

Hello #, please give me a number that Niji is currently better than Holo at so I can tell Yagoo to work on it.

>> No.14269772

>>14268685
You people over react to everything. Miko has been #2 in hours watched and top 5 in CCV for well over a year now. Miko will be just fine.

>> No.14269793
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14269793

Gura became the top HoloMyth, she became lazy
Kronii became the top Council, she was lazy to begin with
Orca became the top HoloX, she starts to be lazy

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.14269815

>>14269771
Their merch is cheaper.

>> No.14269821
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14269821

>>14269771

>> No.14269830
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>>14269013
See pic related, Miko used to be really close with certain nijis especially the dog, and then not too long ago the Dog lost his job and had to stop streaming for abit to sort things out, and during that period he tried to reach out to Miko to have one last collab before he had to take a break, potentially forever, and Miko ghosted him.

>> No.14269840

>>14266514
She streamed 63 times in the past 8 months, but her channel has 970 videos.
That's 6.5% of content in 20% of her career (debuted about 3 years and 4 months ago). I'm not even counting her Bilibili and NND streams.
It didn't start 2 months ago anon, it's been since her Apex grind.

When Marine teased her about playing Resident Evil in easy difficulty, I realized we were far from her Sekiro speedruns

>> No.14269878

>>14269793
she's streaming every day for the next three days, what's the problem?

>> No.14269882

>>14269771
The difference between HoloEN and NijiEN's hours of streaming and numebr of streams are so big.

Tell Yagoo to make HolOEN stream atleast 6times a week. Even a 1-2 hours stream per day is good.

>> No.14269910

>>14269830
>miko ghosted him
like anykara...

>> No.14269923

>>14269878
management mandated 4 day break after just like kronii and gura

>> No.14269935

>>14269830
First of all, the dog is a she. Second of all "the dog" said she apologized to Miko for taking things public and over reacting. Fuck off.

>> No.14269975

>>14269923
Wtf? 4 Day break?
I thought they just limited her to streaming 2 times a day.

>> No.14270009

>>14269975
She wasn't sleeping. Orca legit goes to bed and gets like an hour or three to rest before jumping back to her guerilla zatsus

>> No.14270055

>>14270009
She's addicted to the numbers

>> No.14270081

>>14269935
of course she did, didn't want to stroke the wrath of the mikoschizos now would she?

>> No.14270108

>>14268851
Those songs in other channels are shit (except for Azki's Last Frontier and Takuma Inoe one) and didnt really highlight fit her vocal color. Her own covers choice and her OG on her own channels are the good stufd

>> No.14270131

>>14269407
>hololive has a few more stand outs
Define "A few" in this context

>> No.14270134

>>14270081
You're calling anyone else schizo when you've been seething about this for over a year? Stones in glass houses friend

>> No.14270136

Why is subatomo like this?

>> No.14270154

>>14269830
Anykara is already outed as a rival and friend to Hololive after they chose the Chinese side during the Taiwan Yabe

>> No.14270180

>>14270136
Reddit Duck fans can't help themselves.

>> No.14270181

>>14269882
Oversea brand have always been made for one purpose, to bring more viewer in, Holo myth did their job well, so they can stream as much or as little as they like, sadly Concil are fill with talents who have no strive for success, they actively sabotage themself.

>> No.14270239

>>14270181
holy ESL

>> No.14270256

>>14269923
How do you know that she won't post any schedule after these 3 stream? U another gypsy?

>> No.14270271

>>14270055
>>14270009
I love her more and more

>> No.14270285
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14270285

https://twitter.com/comiketofficial/status/1468413774067494912

Blood donation collab?

>> No.14270334

>>14270285
So this is what Yagoo meant by giving back to society.

>> No.14270338
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14270338

>>14270285
>Sperm donation when?

>> No.14270348

>>14270285
Still farming good citizen points I see. Stay classy.

>>14269508
Debut buff.

>> No.14270359

>>14270256
no. this is new policy after the nene incident. they're really focused on talent health and steady pacing for longevity rather than hard grind and burn out.

>> No.14270366

>>14270338
this

>> No.14270386

>>14270285
Not the first time they've done it.

>> No.14270390

Now that I think gen 6 are starting to come into en territory time. Is the fight for prime time that bad in japan that need to start streaming during en hours.

>> No.14270393

>>14267272
The logo is ugly. The change didn't do shit to them and even made their company even harder to find. Cover corp is crazy good as a company name and I don't get how the fuck did Yagoo even get a patent on the name before anyone else could plus it's for his tech and VR ping pong company. How would someone equate Cover = ping pong?

>> No.14270392

>>14270348
Hololive was still on top of Niji with less streams even before HoloX's debut.

>> No.14270436

>>14270348
cope and stay delusional

>> No.14270451

>>14270359
>steady
Yeah fuck u nijingger

>> No.14270470

>>14270386
I know but this time it takes place on the comiket building

>> No.14270473

>>14270009
Nothing is stopping her from uploading prerecorded content, or is management stopping that too?

>> No.14270479

>>14270338
I get reminded there are doujinshis where coom toilet booth exists on the premise of Japan's declining birth rate and women are lining their asses for random men's sperm.

>> No.14270490

>>14270285
>using gamers
why do they want filthy neet blood?

>> No.14270497

>>14270285
>Only adults who have yet to receive COVID-19 mRNA vaccinations are eligible
What did they mean by this?

>> No.14270512

>>14270490
Blood is blood, they are not vampires

>> No.14270517

>>14270497
virgin blood

>> No.14270525

>>14270390
>Is the fight for prime time that bad in japan that need
You new here? Or missing every /#/ during JST primetime?
But yes it's very brutal lately after HoloX debut

>> No.14270588

>>14270525
Theory: gen6 has the rest of hololive shook

>> No.14270614

NijiEN collective views across all streams: 11,000
HoloEN collective views across all streams: 0

It's over.

>> No.14270662

>>14270497
PUREBLOOD IS WORTH IT'S WEIGHT IN GOLD
PURESPERM IS THE NEW BITCOIN

>> No.14270670

>>14270588
Seeing them get 170k+ on debut was probably a big eye opener that the stakes have lifted yet again.

>> No.14270691
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Hololive JP

>Tier 1
Iroha 175,823(1)
Chloe 124,440(2)
Koyori 121,511(2)
Lui 108,961(2)
La+ 108,611(3)
Pekora 35,194(29)
Marine 34,048(19)
Miko 24,243(26)
Suisei 22,193(9)
Subaru 21,065(25)
Rushia 20,132(13)
Korone 19,969(4)
Azki 17,697(1)
Shion 17,679(10)
Aqua 15,145(7)
Kanata 13,513(24)
Mio 10,986(18)
Noel 10,424(16)
Fubuki 10,383(36)
Botan 10,363(22)

>Tier 2
Nene 9,189(10)
Haato 8,984(15)
Okayu 8,925(18)
Flare 8,918(24)
Lamy 8,836(26)
Watame 8,536(25)
Polka 6,826(17)
Towa 6,612(27)
Luna 5,558(28)
Choco 5,159(12)

>Tier 3
Mel 4,952(13)
Sora 4,362(16)
Matsuri 3,018(13)
Roboco 2,497(28)
Aki 2,216(9)

>> No.14270732

>>14270691
matsuri used to be tier 2...

>> No.14270786

>>14270691
Kuzuha, Kanae, Lize, Toya, Mito is Tier 1... and 3 of them are lower tier 1s.

>> No.14270803

>>14270691
>Miko 24,243
>Subaru 21,065
OH NO NO NO Reddit bros. Our Reddit Duck is getting beat!!!

>> No.14270845

spoonfeed me on subaru schizo

>> No.14270875

>>14270691
>Azki 17,697(1)
cmon now

>> No.14270899

>>14270845
my theory is that he's an attention whore like most schizos

>> No.14270924

>>14270691
80%~ of Nijisanji is in the 3rd tier and only 7%~ are in the 1st tier.

15%~ of hololive is in the 3rd tier and 55%~ are in the 1st tier.

Grade Nijisanji on a curve.

>> No.14270954

>>14270614
I got 9.7k

>> No.14270958

>>14270899
true, but why subaru, she seems rather inoffensive

>> No.14270966
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14270966

Wave 4 NijiEN males wont be this bad, right?

>> No.14270981

>>14270845
It started when some anon showed data that Subaru has higher numbers than Miko.

>> No.14270984

>>14270845
It's Miko schizo trying to stir up a fight. Why he picked Subaru I have no idea

>> No.14271006
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14271006

nijien...

>> No.14271024

>>14270845
>>14270958
He's just cycling through Holos to hate
Previously it was Sora, Fauna, and some others that I can't remember
He'll probably pick on Ina next or smth

>> No.14271025
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14271025

>>14267272
>>14267456
>>14267530
Well, not the first time a company change their logo for the worse
>Pic related

>> No.14271029

>>14270958
It's a nijifag, he have picture of Miko to post on demand anytime, either to shitpost about her or try to make fanbases hate each other, best ignore it.

>> No.14271064

>>14271006
They have better numbers if you add them all together. Cope holobrony.

>> No.14271073
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>>14270966
If Bon can mog 70% of holostars in viewers I don't see why they couldn't get at least one that regularly breaks 1k. Plus, these Tsunderia viewers are not that different from their female talents.

>> No.14271075

>>14270614
Bullshit, stop spreading lies.
The max simultaneous CCV they got is 9.7k.
>which is good since that means it inclined, no need to spread lies

>> No.14271107

>>14270390
no it's pretty much the same strategy that gen 5 used on debut. probably a lesson learned from asacoco about building a core audience in an uncontested time slot. though lui is kind of weird in that she's too far away from the rest of gen 6's streams, but it might just be the result of her sleep schedule.

>> No.14271119

>>14270845
It's the Mikoschizo falseflagging as a 35p. He shits on a Holo (Subaru lately) just so he has a reason to shit on Miko some more. His tactics are obvious. He's done this multiple times on /hlg/ already. Just ignore him.

>> No.14271147

>>14271075
>lies
Probably another newfag who confused peak with CCV

>> No.14271183

>>14271107
cute hag needs more sleep reps please understand

>> No.14271187

>>14270348
>Debut buff
Nah, Hololive was beating Niji before Gen6

>> No.14271216

i think this is candidate for silver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSNTsfyVu2Q

>> No.14271221

>>14271073
Nijimales are probally going to be at least Selen level and probably Sana level. They will probally kill
overseas holostar viewership which sucks

>> No.14271233

Moomer unarchive karaoke start, Nijifag beware!

>> No.14271236

>>14270981
>>14270984
>>14271024
>>14271029
>>14271119

thanks!

>> No.14271277
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>>14271024
>Fauna
Not him. That's me. I fucking hate Fauna and I pray for her graduation every day. I hope she gets a career ending, life altering, and potentially fatal injury.

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>>14270470
Imagine receiving blood from bunch of fat smelly otaku

>> No.14271308

I predict Gura's new outfit reveal doesn't break 120k

>> No.14271315

>>14271277
explain

>> No.14271327

So a question since Shion 3D Birthday live is tomorrow could that affect La+ , Koyori and Lui first SC stream since a lot of viewers may not decide not to donate to them in favor of donating to Shion

>> No.14271343

>>14271277
At least you're honest.

>> No.14271347

>>14271277
didnt ask

>> No.14271468

>>14269923
>Gura
>Kronii
>Overworking
>Mandatory break
You got baited a lot people there

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>>14271277
>Not him. That's me. I fucking hate Fauna and I pray for her graduation every day. I hope she gets a career ending, life altering, and potentially fatal injury.

>> No.14271478

>>14271308
hard to tell once mori does hers we will get an idea

On other number news easy 10k for mumei autotune karaoke. is a debuff from the usual but is still going fine.

>> No.14271515

>>14271308
inb4 muh cull

>> No.14271533

>>14271478
Isn't this the third day in a row that Mumei has charted? Too early to say she surpassed Kronii as the ace of council yet?

>> No.14271538

>>14270732
Pre-APEX maybe.

>> No.14271541

>>14271308
That's easy to predict, given how disastrous her previous outfit reveal was. Umiushi really fucked her over, now nobody has any expectations for it.

>> No.14271545

>>14270473
you are asuming she knows how to edit or knows anything else other than zatsu.

>> No.14271569

>>14271315
Bad voice, does ASMR poorly, not interesting, part of the worst gen in the history of the project.
>>14271308
This. Gura is declining. I think 6 figures is a stretch.

>> No.14271585

>>14271064
I'd add this to the nijicope list but it's already on it

>> No.14271598

>>14271541
She has been saying this one is her favorite design since she had a say in it.

>> No.14271603

Can Mumei redeem the failure that is the EN branch and reach 15K with unarchived karaoke?

How were her previous unarchived karaoke streams number-wise?

>> No.14271621

>>14271569
>Gura is declining
Gura's viewership has been insanely consistent since the December "features" were added.

>> No.14271635

>>14271603
she's not even singing, she's fucking around and streaming vocal practice

>> No.14271662

If there are any nijifags who thinks the only reason Hololive is winning too much these days is because of HoloX Debut Buff.

* List of Gold, Q4 2021 so far *

OCTOBER
1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 63.2k - Survival Island End Stream
22) Pekora (Hololive) - 32.2k - Minecraft
23) Hal (Indie/Merise) - 45k - Merise Announcement
24) Miko (Hololive) - 65k - Sportfes Announcement
25) Miko (Hololive) - 32.7k - Minecraft (Sportfes preparation)
26) Rushia (Hololive) - 30.4k - Umamusume gacha
27) Pekora (Hololive) - 50k - Minecraft (PekoMiko)
28) Hal (Merise) - 35k - Apex Custom (Stacked Pros&Preds)
29) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.8k - Minecraft
30) Marine (Hololive) - 76k - Return stream
31) Yozora Mel (Hololive) - 58.3k - Birthday 3D

NOVEMBER
1) Marine (Hololive) - 34.7k - Karaoke
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 42.5 - Minecraft (Sport fest prep)
3) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 48.9k - Announcement
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 36.4k - Rhythm Heaven
5) Luis Cammy (Nijisanji) - 39.4k - 3D Debut
6) Miko (Hololive) - 81.5k - Minecraft Sports Fest
7) Miko (Hololive) - 69.7k - Sport Fest Totsu
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.6k - Evil God korone
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 44k - Evil God Korone
10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 56k - Kuzuha Concert Free Part
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 55k - First FFXIV stream
12) Fumi (Nijisanji) - 38k - 3D Debut
13) Rushia (Hololive) - 81k - Outfit reveal
14) Marine (Hololive) - 81.8k - Subaru's High profile case
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 83.3k - Birthday 3D
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 31.8k - Ape Escape 3
17) Marine (Hololive) - 34k - Bus Simulator
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 82.5k - Minecraft Mod with Marine
19) Towa (Hololive) - 47.5k - Mario Party
20) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 95k - Splatoon Tourney day 1
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 88.2k - Splatoon Tourney day 2
22) Subaru (Hololive) - 31.5k - Pokemon Challenge (vs Okayu)
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.7k - Karaoke Relay
24) Noel (Hololive) - 56.9k - Birthday Totsu
25) Hololive (Hololive) - 58.6k - Gen 3 Concert Free Part

HOLOX ANNOUNCEMENT AND DEBUT STARTS HERE
26) La+ (Hololive) - 167.6k - Debut
27) Lui (Hololive) - 149.8k - Debut
28) Koyori (Hololive) - 180.5k - Debut
29) Chloe (Hololive) - 176.7k - Debut
30) Iroha (Hololive) - 175.8k - Debut

DECEMBER
1) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Archived Karaoke
2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The Radio Station
3) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 52,239 - Announcement
4) Shion (Hololive) - 93,815 - Outfit Reveal
5) Chloe (Hololive) - 63,541 - Unarchived Karaoke
6) Ayame (Hololive) - 59,998 - Return stream

>> No.14271666

>>14271533
She finished her pokemon playtrough so she is not debufed by pokemon.
ronii got 12-13k on her firstone but obviously will get less on the next one.
Reagrding if she has surprassed her it depends on the next Kronni MC stream.
Also i just noticed Bae will play tomorrow(jptime) pokemon on almost jp prime time. That is gonna be rough but i commend her for streaming in 2 slots each day.

>> No.14271671

>>14271598
It doesn't matter if the rigging is shit, that's what everybody will be talking about and that's what everybody remembers from the last reveal.

>> No.14271683

Mumei 11k! En honor restored.

>> No.14271701

>>14266609
I like her body/outfit but the face is just naaaah.

>> No.14271736

Rui 10k. Gen 6 honor restored.

>> No.14271762
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>>14271603
The last Actual Karaoke got 25k, The recent unarchive one I'm not sure can qualify as Karaoke since it's just her autism.

>> No.14271767

>>14271533
She overtook Kronii in sub growth last month. Her biggest weak point numbers-wise is her SC revenue, and she’s in the process of un-fucking it.

>> No.14271810

>>14271662 (me)
I got it from the prevous threads. It's a good thing Listanon was making these.

>>14271308
Yeah she could atleast streamed days before the outfit reveal to build hype. But is too lazy.
I predict that she'll still get 100k+ though.

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>>14271533
>Kronii
Please, don't mention her name

>> No.14271828

>>14271683
Mumei's good. She just needs better partners or for her partners to step up. She+Kronii is great but the others with her? Not so much. Really wanted A Way Out with Mumei and Kronii instead of fucking Bae.

>> No.14271843

lamy finishing at least gave lui aboost to get over 10k a little improvement over yesterday but not by much.

>> No.14271863

>>14271533
I can't speak for numbers, but solely from an entertainment standpoint Mumei has fucking soared in the past month. She overcame her early awkwardness a lot faster than I expected her to and I think the numbers are starting to reflect.

>> No.14271866

>>14271603
If we're talking about actual karaoke with English songs, she got 30k, 23k, and 25k
This isn't really karaoke though, she's just making noises. Her previous not really karaoke got 16k.

>> No.14271867

>>14271621
But tourist have moved on. Bold prediction: none of the HoloEN new outfits will hit 6 figures. Only 3 golds will be won.

>> No.14271950

Do views on Holodex count?
>>14271867
Gura, Cali and who's the third?

>> No.14271959
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>>14271662
>31) Yozora Mel (Hololive) - 58.3k - Birthday 3D

>> No.14271982

>>14271867
>Only 3 golds will be won
Well, obviously. Kiara and Ame are on the same day. Same with Ina and Gura.

>> No.14272006

>>14271762
I think the mic test established 15k as her floor for unarchived streams. First karaoke established her ceiling as 30k with the rest of Council spreading the word on Twitter, with 25k being her highest without that.

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>>14271810
fuck you Gura stream aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

>> No.14272064

>>14271867
Even if EN doesnt get the gold, niji will still get mogged

>> No.14272082
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>>14271867
>Only 3 golds will be won.
Better than Council debut.. Only 1 Gold won

>> No.14272104

>>14271950
Only one. For sure one of the things YT culls is if you try to view more than one stream at once on the same device. You'll be counted for (1) view ONLY, s d most likely whichever view you interacted with last. If you want to make sure you properly count, 1 stream, on YT, on mobile app.

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14272122

>Lui-nee! Dont mention taiwan!

>> No.14272155

>>14272122
she didnt retard

>> No.14272175

>>14272082
Since we all he have to judge Council pre-debut was models and some tweets. Were their weaker numbers due to most people not liking their designs? Did Irys debuting earlier and satiating some of the hunger for a new EN affect the debut numbers of Council too?

>> No.14272234

>>14272047
Koshien still has the record. Gura will not break it.

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>>14272122
Shut up sea whale or we will hunt you to the last.
Mumei currently 14k.

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>>14272155
>GiriGiri seifuuuu

>> No.14272236

>>14272104
So I should watch on YT instead of Holodex?

>> No.14272279

Mumei 14k get. I hope she can do 15k for bragging rights.

>> No.14272352

One Million Club

1. Gura (Oct 22, 2020)
2. Korone (Nov 1, 2020)
3. Fubuki (Nov 5, 2020)
4. Pekora (Dec 4, 2020)
5. Aqua (Jan 13, 2021)
6. Marine (Jan 18, 2021)
7. Calli (Jan 25, 2021)
8. Haachama (Feb 10, 2021)
9. Amelia (Feb 11, 2021)
10. Coco (Feb 17, 2021)
11. Rushia (Mar 2, 2021)
12. Noel (Apr 12, 2021)
13. Okayu (Apr 17, 2021)
14. Miko (Apr 30, 2021)
15. Ina (May 27, 2021)
16. Kiara (May 30, 2021)
17. Matsuri (Jun 1, 2021)
18. Suisei (Jun 26, 2021)
19. Subaru (Jul 2, 2021)
20. Ayame (Jul 7, 2021)
21. Watame (Jul 17, 2021)
22. Kanata (Jul 27, 2021)
23. Botan (Oct 16, 2021)

Upcoming (over 900k):
24. Moona
25. Shion
26. Ollie
27. Sora

====

Two Million Club

1. Gura (Jan 18, 2021)

Upcoming (over 1.9m):

====

Three Million Club

1. Gura (July 4, 2021)

*****

Finally, Sora gets on this list. At current pace, Sora million in 5 months.

>> No.14272393

>>14271867
I'm confident Mori and Gura will hit 100k. Kiara and Ina already didn't hit 100k for the first reveals so its crazy to think they will hit it this time. Amelia hit it last time but barely so I don't think she will hit it either.

>> No.14272405

>>14272236
If you're concerned about making your view count and you don't care about viewing multiple streams at once for sure, yea. If the functionality of holodex is better if you intend to view multiple streams at once, then stick to that, just know of course you will only ever count as (1) view no matter how many streams you have running at once.

>> No.14272443

Moomers 15k get

>> No.14272472

>>14272234
kek dont jinx it

>> No.14272480

Mumei with 15k possible
Krunei about to satrt poekmon, pokemon being a debuff is gonna be like 7-8k for second episode but mumei ending might funnel to her after

>> No.14272531

>>14271959
How can Meru be so strong, numberbros?

>> No.14272651

>>14272405
Just wanted to know if my 1 view on Holodex counts for numbers or not. Good to know it does.

>> No.14272734

Mumei 16k get.
Making HoloEN proud and showing why she is the Ace of Council. GO ACE.

>> No.14272815

>>14272734
I just wish this was an actual karaoke instead for her usual 20k

>> No.14272818

>>14272531
She was wamage's master

>> No.14272853

>>14272472
there will be a lot of tourists who will show up to watch the train wreck that is rhombus "EN pace is too fast" umiushit.
there. counter jinx to balance.

>> No.14272990

>>14271867
So you predict they'll win gold on every day they have a outfit stream then.

>> No.14273000

Is the ceiling for HoloEN for everyone except gura 10-12K for a non-karaoke stream and what games can get that? Minecraft only?

The difference in JP and non-JP audience is kinda insane.

>> No.14273052

>>14271863
Mumei has a lot of great moments every stream but overall I don't enjoy watching it fully so I've been watching just clips

>> No.14273150

>>14273000
APEX and valorant for ame
the west mostly likes multiplayer games so singelplayer content gets frogotten.
Maybe GTA but most popular streams of tat are RP servers on twitch.

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14273174

Orca with another Karaoke
https://youtu.be/vyNBCYpeaUA

30k get (?)

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14273185

>>14271662
>>14271959
>>14272531

Unironically box pushing
>Pic related
And don't expect this to happen too often

>> No.14273228

>>14273185
It really felt like shit went downhill for Kuzuha after this.

>> No.14273252

>>14271867
Mori has been teasing a lot of stuff for her outfit reveal, I belive she will get +100k

>> No.14273294

>>14273174
Noooo, chloe...laplus already have a karaoke for her first sc stream later

>> No.14273300

>>14273174
>that early
30k seems fine but i think edging 40k is still possible, still a recline from the former.
Also spamming karaoke will make them less special each time.
Dont she have someting else to stream?

>> No.14273400

>>14273294
>>14273300
lets be honest, outside being cute or singin she has nothing else. She is playing her strengths but i agree she is overplaying them

>> No.14273436

>>14273300
I kind of want to see her play games more. Even suisei has tetris and minecraft to balance her Karaoke streams.

>> No.14273484

>>14273174
I feel like it'll get old really soon. I don't see which audience like to listen to karaoke stream that much. It's cool because of the scarcity.

>> No.14273485

>>14273000
Mori can get 12k+ on a non-karaoke.
>Jump King
>Pet review (w/ bae)
>Minecraft
>and Big Collabs like UNO or Halloween Party

>IRyS, Mumei and Kronii at times can also get 12k+ even without Minecraft or Karaoke.

Collabs can easily go beyond mere 12k.

>> No.14273527

>>14273185
still cant believe she fucking did it kek, everyone basically already gave the gold to kazuha the day before

>> No.14273561

>>14270670
>>14270588
Lamy...

>> No.14273560

>>14273400
Is she aiming to be a music-focused chuuba like Suisei/Cali?

>> No.14273569

>>14273485
cooking streams too

>> No.14273578

>>14273400
>but i agree she is overplaying them
Allow me to play doubles advocate here. It's a doggy dog world out there and cute chuubas are a diamond dozen.

>> No.14273608

>>14273228
What was Kuzuha's stream about?

>> No.14273624

>>14273174
Only Botan will overlap so 30k is possible even though the timeslot is too early for JP Times on a weekday.

>>14273294
I think they used Orca to gather audience and funnel them to the back-to-back monetization streams of Lpalus and Koyori.

>> No.14273630

>>14273174
>>14273294
>>14273300
>>14273400
>>14273484
What game would you suggest she played if you were her manager?

>> No.14273636

>>14273578
the phrase is "dog eat dog"

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>>14273294
>>14273300
>>14273400
>>14273436
Funnel for the YMD!!

>> No.14273670

>>14273578
*smack*
Your butchering of English idioms HAS to be on purpose, so here's your (you). Now get out.

>> No.14273708

>>14273578
Chloe is super cute tho. Like at the level that could annoy alot more other women compared to the usual chuuba cuteness.

>> No.14273724

>>14273646
But ymd also doing karaoke so i don't know how that gonna work out...

>> No.14273729

>>14273636
Anon, 1000% they're fishing for (you)s. And I bit it too. There's no way you can butcher each and every idiom used that badly that unless you know what the proper ones are.

>> No.14273734

Hololive has a sizeable Vietnamese fanbase

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHYvaJ1EDyJ5BaEYa852C5w/videos

and also Thailand.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHYvaJ1EDyJ5BaEYa852C5w/videos

>> No.14273742

>>14273630
Why would I suggest her a game as a manager? Can't she figure it out herself? Variety streaming is fun because you get to choose which game you want to play

>> No.14273752

>>14273608
Celebration stream. I think this is the one where he announced a new album and signed up with a label.

>> No.14273778

>>14273608
>he didn't know
The "does not slip" meme comes from there

>> No.14273795

>>14273734
Yeah, they won't shut up in Gura's chat.

>> No.14273801

>>14273734
Team Secret is a pro Valo team and one of their PH players is a Kroniifag. There's alot of SEAfags in the Holo fandom, which is nothing new.

>> No.14273845

>>14273630
Short games preferably. Long-running series is a number killer. She can play GOI to farm clips because she sure as fuck going to make some retarded noises.

>> No.14273852

Maybe Chloe could play a fish-related meme game? Is there anything like that?
Has Gura played anything similar?

>> No.14273881

>>14273724
>Literally steals the thunderbefore ymd can sue it
NUMBER ORCA I KNEEL
AS COLD AS THE REAL ANIMAL

>> No.14273889

>>14273852
Man Eater was her first stream, newfag.

>> No.14273927

>>14273400
>she has nothing else
Oh boy as Oga warned, she's playing you and when you least expect it, she'll hit a bat at the back of your head

She's mostly doing zatsus and karaoke now, her game skills still isn't shown yet. This is the case because of Lui is already a confirmed FPS player and she hasn't played any FPS games yet. La+ is also good at Valorant, Shadowverse and rhythm games. Iroha is super fit and probably could do long endurances in the future.

>> No.14273937 [DELETED] 

>>14273400
bro her pl was an indie who had pretty good SCs, she has to be charismatic to pull that off

>> No.14273942
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14273942

What percentage of superchat income do the companies take?

Specifically Youtube, Nijisanji and Hololive I don't care about the little companies.

>> No.14273947

>>14273889
I never watched your meme shark faggot
and I don't think JPs would like Man Eater that much

>> No.14274011

>>14273927
>her game skills still isn't shown yet.
if not able to read isone of those skills then yeah undertale playtrough showed it.

>> No.14274022

>>14273947
Why so butthurt all of a sudden?

>> No.14274079

Kronii at 6k... mumei pls funnel Kronii to 10k

>> No.14274082

>>14273630
speed run through the sim games for maximum pon effect
-assetto corsa
-bus sim
-construction sim
while having her do her reps for MC or Pokemon to follow the pon arc with super big brain moves on either buff games

>> No.14274090

>>14273927
>Oga warned
That was a lighthearted joke if you can't tell.

>> No.14274104

>>14273752
this was also where he introduced his female outfit and he just released his vampire cover that got like 80k on its premiere and was on pace to beat reflect to 1 million (it also slipped)

>> No.14274106

>>14273708
There is no competition between holos. They're family. They love each other more than numbers.

>> No.14274128

>>14273927
There's shitton of FPS out there that's not Apex/Valorant, heck i hope she's as good as Botan for once will have competent teammate. And dunno about Lui, but la+ is a numberfag, when she realizes her number plummet whenever she playing Valorant, she wont touch it again.

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>>14273185
I'm gonna use the chumbud cope here and say he still mogged her in VOD views. Naturally, hololive should have higher peaks than Niji due to all the box pushing and view funneling.

>> No.14274177

>>14274090
Of course, it's a joke but it also became a meme now

>> No.14274228

>>14273942
10"

>> No.14274256

>>14274079
jesus christ she fell off

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Mumei doing great with that 17.5k while Kronii disappoints with that 6.5k.

Anya mogging some of the NijIEN
>yeah i took their peak in consideration but some of them didn't got higher numbers than Anya

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>>14273578
>doggy dog world
ESL-kun.. your eigo reps

>> No.14274321

>>14273734
This raises a question for me: how do the demographics break down for HoloID's viewership, when it comes down to it?

An ID girl like Reine, for example, that streams almost exclusively in English and has a chat that predominantly writes in English as well. Is that just a large portion of American viewers/chatters, or is it a large number of English-speaking IDs and SEA?

>> No.14274340

>>14273734
>Vietnamese fanbase
>Post Thai channel

What does he mean by this?

>> No.14274348

>>14268851
>all these fans of her voice just not interested in her other songs so far for some reason
Just like chumpedos
>Azkii
Not only a newfag but also an egg, on her Holotalk she straight up said her main gimmick was to do lives on live venues. She streamed more these past months due the coof putting the live music scene on a hold. Same with Sora
>Back to suisei
Anon, just see flr what is Suisei more we known: Due her music or her stream?

>> No.14274362

>>14273630
She just needs to look at pekora's game choice . MK-GOI-Jk-MC etc.

>> No.14274406

>>14274273
8.5K for total of nijiEN
Kroni is expect since is pokemon you can see mumei past playtroughs. Kronii will shine in her next MC stream or when that pokemon competition happes that she said on stream.
Anya playing some mainstream games is alwasy welcome. And really shines her ceiling.

>> No.14274410

>>14274340
Wait, I just realized my copy paste failed

>> No.14274439

>>14274273
>give the dragon some gold
What does she mean by this?

>> No.14274451

>>14274362
Occasionally pull something out of her ass too. Burger stream, Random kusoge no one expected, even fucking TF2
Every single of Pekora stream could be a surprise since she never reveal what she would stream until the last minute

>> No.14274471

>>14274348
>Anon, just see flr what is Suisei more we known: Due her music or her stream?
neither, its because SUISEXXXXX

>> No.14274476

>>14274439
potential OP pic?

>> No.14274499

>>14274406
NijiEN really is reclining huh

>> No.14274548

>>14274277
>>14273636
>>14273729
>>14273670
So all of you are total newfags then huh?

>> No.14274557

>>14274321
SEA had been using english as a second language for decades already anon. That's why it's hard to determine how large of a demographic of HoloID. When an ID vtuber talks in ID, the chat would turn ID pretty quickly the same way when Coco did an ES stream and her chat turned to ES. English is a universal language.

>> No.14274588

>>14273734
Thai fans please support Lui-nee

>> No.14274589

>>14274499
They were 9.7k earlier befor moomei karaoke so they are still the same. Almost all the rbanch is streaming again.
but i do wonder why the need of multiple pov for uno.

>> No.14274595

>>14269830
what a bitch

>> No.14274605

>>14273942
Youtube takes 30%

Hololive takes 50%
source: https://youtu.be/gOY45tCOfvg

Nijisanji is unknown
source: https://youtu.be/u2fGW5Lt9jw

>> No.14274631

>>14268771
I feel like being backed by nousagis is one of the best way to maintain number desu. There's plenty of them and they are REALLY picky when it come to who to watch because like you said, they only interested in the people that are related to their oshi

>> No.14274638

>>14274605
>50
I'm guessing that shit is negotiable

>> No.14274648

>>14274589
superchats

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>>14274548

>> No.14274695

>>14274557
Yep, exactly why I asked the question. I wonder just what percentage of HoloID's viewers (especially the girls who speak English almost exclusively) are EOP vs. ESL ID/SEA natives based on that.

>> No.14274698

>>14267940
Nah it looks like some media player logo.

>> No.14274703

>>14274648
it cant be THAT much of a difference to make 4povs

>> No.14274717

>>14274605
Who cares about niji's percentage anyway. All we know is that they don't pay their livers and the cut is used for who knows what.

>> No.14274728

>>14274703
Money is money anon

>> No.14274756

>>14274605
In terms of the total amount, Youtube takes 30% and Hololive takes 35% (or 50% of the remaining amount after Youtube's cut).

>> No.14274765

>>14274406
Kronii has been reclining. Mumei has taken her crown and she will keep it. Even with Frostpunk her numbers were shit.

>> No.14274768

>>14274439
HAHAHAHAHAHH
Break 10k by yourself first faggot dragon.
Do the Koshien in your channel!!! You can win gold easy lmfao

>> No.14274783

>>14274605
>Hololive takes 50%
I'm fairly sure it's 50% of what's left after Youtube's cut, so 1/3rd to Youtube's 1/3rd to the chuuba's 1/3rd.

>> No.14274790

>>14274638
Lamy negotiated her SC revenue as far back as Dec 2020.
SC makes up a pretty small part of Cover's revenue stream, especially now that they're flooded with sponsorships and merch deals.

>> No.14274791

>>14274605
isn't there a clip that says niji takes 50% too? I can't remember

>> No.14274795

>>14274348
>Just like chumpedos
Just like mori and every other vtubers. Crown does not reach 1M after a month. Her cover with moona does not reach 1M after a month. You can cherry picking the number to fit your narrative.

>> No.14274796

>>14274605
why did you give a vod for one then a clip for one here's the clip for holo https://youtu.be/rU5zcWTmRZc

>> No.14274821

Mumei fucked up the settings of her mic so Kronii has a chance of getting 10k

>> No.14274824
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>>14274717
>The cuts are used to paid clippers and reaction channel holobronie-kun

>> No.14274859

>>14273942
>>14274605
>>14274756
>>14274717

At this point, I would like to point out that Cover actually provided a salary to their talents, so if you want to use this as a reason for Hololive's SC game (Or lack thereof, in case of EN), you can use this

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14274931

Predictions? Council coming out tonight for some reason.

>> No.14274964

>>14271662
Nah I just think that the whole idea is retarded. If you get seveal thousands less than the first place you're automatically dead and irrelevant.

>> No.14274983

>>14274859
I recall before Coco left, she mentioned that the salary actually went up.

>> No.14275008

>>14274548
I'll admit that if this is a copypasta then I have absolutely missed it before this point, yes.
Here's the (you) you so crave though.

>> No.14275014

>>14274548
>they didn't do their reps

>> No.14275021

>>14274859
And dont forget that almost all holos has sponsorships or product collabs unlike 50% of nijilivers barely scrap anything from being a liver lol

>> No.14275038

>>14274605
50/50 talent/company split is industry standard

>> No.14275042

>>14274931
6k to 8k

>> No.14275109

Niji and the recent card event is a considered a sponsorship right? When was the last time they did another sponsorship before that? Hololive has a Skytree sponsorship this month.

>> No.14275127

>>14275109
Wendy's kitchen

>> No.14275145

>>14274964
No one said that.
>>14274983
Gotta need proof for that. I don't think she could've talked about salary on stream.

>> No.14275148

I do wonder how would react to Kronii inclining and retaking her spot as the ace of council

>> No.14275157

>>14274931
the lazy whores fear the samurai stacies
they are fighting for their lives at this point
hopefully they put more effort from now on but I doubt it

>> No.14275158

>>14274765
nah her play of frostpunk dlc is inlign with her last 2 stream of the orignal game both on ccv and also vod views. Kronni likes Niche games.
she still not streaming as much on her channel but has been collabing a lot direclty this time on others channels.

>>14274931
6k to 8k
but vod views will be 200k after a week like her altest one. Im curiouos on how well it will do. i found asmr at this time is better than her usual times since it is good for burgers to go to sleep.

>> No.14275193

>>14274703
Any money > No money.
Also ad rev.
If you have to ask yes they ARE that desperate.

>> No.14275194

>>14275021
>no base salary
>voicepacks and SC are the only source of reliable income for the talents
>That nijidog has to beg for money to be able to eat for the day
Man, Nijisanji is really running a sweatshop, huh?

>> No.14275203

I do wonder how would people react to Kronii inclining and retaking her spot as the ace of council

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>>14274931
This aint some special stream, why the prediction?

>> No.14275233

>>14275157
Why trying when they're going to get fired anyway?

>> No.14275238

>>14275203
she could pull a MC and karoke and icnrease her median easily.

>> No.14275246

I feel like what differentiates Hololive and other streamers is that they could actually do Karaoke for fun and archive them for people to watch whereas twitch streamers are stuck doing reaction videos

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14275341

>>14275194
>SHUT UP BRONIES! They should be proud and thanking me to be part of the biggest Vtuber company in the world!

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>>14275218
So (You) fucks can go back to discussing numbers.

>> No.14275380

>>14275246
Not even reaction vids, some literally just run episodes of tv shows and fuck off for hours at a time.
Twitch is doomed if companies actually start looking at them like they do youtube.

>> No.14275381

>>14275246
If the karaoke is in JP, then they can archive it. If it's in English, fat chance. That's why I prefer Twitch vtubers, they feel like friends watching funny clips together and not these fake ass entertainers on YT.

>> No.14275397

>>14275246
twitch streamers need to stream more to get discovered.
They stream 2-3hrs a day more than youtube streamers. there is just so much content you can actually make every day wit those kind of hours, as such the fall back to react to others people content to make their lives easier.

>> No.14275403

>>14275158
6k to 8k seems good enough for her. Maybe Moom will funnel some to her? Doesn't seem like she's ending anytime soon.

>> No.14275434

>>14275381
(You)

>> No.14275471

>>14275381
>they feel like friends
anon...

>> No.14275500

>>14275403
moom wil funel to kronii first

>> No.14275542

>>14273630
Smash Bros with a challenge that she has to say "daisuki" to everyone she loses to

>> No.14275549

So I'm not a /#/ regular by any stretch of the imagination, but I have never seen the terms "box pushing" and "funneling" appear more rapidly in widespread use than in the past day, and its really weird.

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>>14275471
Shhh, let the friendless loser play pretend.
ANnyway, mumei 18k get .

>> No.14275555
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>>14275381
>friends
It's okay anon-kun.. you'll find someone someday

>> No.14275582

>>14275463

>> No.14275595

>>14275380
>>14275397
That's sad, man. I liked reddit meme review but even then, I wouldn't want to watch vtubers react to something for hours. Karaoke and Zatsus makes for good background noises while reaction streams are like those short clips brain drain, tik tok especially. It's a waste of time but it's addicting.

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>>14273778
>The "does not slip" meme comes from there
newfagchama...

>> No.14275612

>>14275553
Push it Moom.. 20k come on.

>> No.14275628

>>14275582
>367
holy shit even jp bros know it

>> No.14275693

>>14275582
>>14275617
The ignorance outside the numbers thread is baffling.

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>>14275582

>> No.14275727

>>14275549
Because Hololive had been successful implementing it on YT. Twitch is regarded as the best place with a community that could watch streams 24/7. Their numbers are sky high as compared to youtube. Even the doctor criticizes YT and said that Twitch has it easier while he feels like he's on an island. The live discovery is shit but Hololive made it work due to the algorithm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec6X_0OU4c4

>> No.14275843

>>14275628
WTF, JP are actually based!

Despite me being a foreigner, I actually agree with them, we need to be cut off though, we bring nothing to the viewership, we are as useless as clip watchers. I feel so bad for being a foreigner, I kinda wish I was born a Japanese instead.

>> No.14275851

>>14275381
Go hug your mom or something, holy shit.

>> No.14275886

>>14275726
Even the JOPs are laughing at EN fags

>> No.14275944

>>14275726
He just doesn't know that it's not actually normal to play or watch anything Pokemon related as an adult, even for a weeb

>> No.14275985

>>14275886
This is exactly why JOPs laugh at us
>>14275381

>> No.14276013

>>14275886
I wonder where the people who originally oppose HoloEN are right now. They need to be hailed as heroes to be honest.

>> No.14276029

Why are we so thoroughly infested with /jp/ and /hlg/ shitposters as of late? Do they not have any numbers related threads at ALL for containment and so they've decided to shit the place up here?

>> No.14276059

>>14275726
EN has been really reclining lately...i'm not surprised at this point if myth new outfit reveal failed to gained back audience

>> No.14276087

>>14276029
Its early morning in the rational part of the word, drunk hours in US and schizo hours in SEA

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>>14276059

>> No.14276105

>>14275726
>>14275886
So both 4ch and 5ch is stereotype, as long as someone said it, fags will thinksthat way too Kek

>> No.14276119

>>14276059
I doubt they can get 50k for most ouotfit reveals, maybe Gura but she can only gather around 60k I guess.

>> No.14276126

>>14276029
They can't talk about EN without getting absolutely shit on for being off-topic in /hlg/

>> No.14276132

Niji mind break, live in progress.

>> No.14276157

>>14276029
Because no EOPs watch Hololive now dumbass. Go wipe your ass before talking.

>> No.14276169

>>14276099
Kek>>14276059

>> No.14276194

>>14276119
I doubt Gura's outfit reveal will even get 30k to be honest
She struggles to even get 20k these days
Honestly, Cover should just dissolve EN and get CN back

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reclining...

>> No.14276265

A reminder, ironic shitposting is still shitposting, and we've got enough goddamn shitposting as is.

>> No.14276266

>>14276194
10k already pushing it, no way the shork can get 5k

>> No.14276276

>14276194
Welcome back chink LMAO

>> No.14276339

>>14276194
Oh definitely, at least with HoloCN, they can guarantee a more loyal fanbase since Zhongruoren love anime culture. With these guailou, they are fickle creatures. They leave for new stuff like a bird finding a new shiny trinket.

>> No.14276350

>>14276078

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

>> No.14276352

>>14276194
please hang if goes 30k

>> No.14276370

>>14276266
Yeah Gura getting 5k is actually a safe bet.
The others will be lucky to even hit 3k

>> No.14276374

>>14276266
>5k
that's too generous, only her mom and her manager will watch the outfit reveal

>> No.14276387

>>14276266
Reduce it more, the new outfits won't get even 1K

>> No.14276429

>>14275727
hate to say it, but tools like holodex is actually where the "community" is at for the EOPs
and it's mainly clip viewers.

>> No.14276441

>>14276350
Uh, who's that nobody? I only know BTS.

>> No.14276489

>>14276429
Are there any actual numbers on users of HoloDex or HoloTools?

>> No.14276536

>>14276489
Yes, and they all left.

>> No.14276559

>>14276441
old news. taku inuoe did a few songs for suisei and mori on his new ep. now getting mv.

>> No.14276572

Kronii being funneled to 10k

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Illegal!!!

>> No.14276612

Kronii 10k get

>> No.14276613

clock 10k get

>> No.14276625

STOP THE COUNT

>> No.14276636

>from 7.5k to 10k
ABSOLUTELY ILEGAL

>> No.14276692

10k get. En redemption arc incoming????

>> No.14276700

HOLY SHIT 2.5K VIEWERS JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

>> No.14276730

Jesus, this thread is now a full-on #baits instead of #numbers anymore. Why are SEAniggers so fucking angry and combative all the time?

>> No.14276735

ILLEGAL

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You're welcome

>> No.14276758

>>14276730
Wouldn't you be too if you lived in SEA?

>> No.14276769

>>14274703
No as in they each set up their own stream so they each get money separately and they don't have to meet up afterwards and split the money from one channel

>> No.14276780

>>14276758
>>14276730
Fuck you

>> No.14276807

>>14276754
If Mumei keeps doing random noises streams before Council streams, she can prop up their numbers with the funnels

>> No.14276811

>>14276754
The new ace of en gen 2. Soon she will overtake gura. Screenshot this.

>> No.14276814

>>14276754
SASUGA LEX

>> No.14276835

>>14276780
Your anger only reveals the truth of the statements.

>> No.14276839

>almost 11k
FUCK BOX PUSHING
SHIT SHOULD ACTUALLY BE BANNED

but joking aside i called it.

>> No.14276872

Is 10k for EN good or is it just me and my numberrot

>> No.14276904

>>14276872
Holojp is just too good

>> No.14276966

>>14276872
10k is good for anyone, it's just that HoloJp is currently out of control.

>> No.14276997

>>14276872
For a multi-part Pokemon stream at 12:30p EST?
Pretty good, considering it's higher than all of NijiEN concurrently at their absolute best.

>> No.14277019

>>14276872
10k is solid for EN, and a few months ago would be solid for most of JP too. They're just turbobuffed right now it's actually ridiculous. Now, I know it won't happen, but imagine if they actually retain even 50% of the tourists. That would be ridiculous and crazy and would mean that another gen of 3x 10k+ median streamers.

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>>14276872
Yes 10k is good

>> No.14277040

>>14276489
they don't publish it often
last i saw was a tweet about live multiview users during sports fes (~3000)

>> No.14277079

>>14276966
I feel HoloJP is scorching the earth. Their high numbers will come at a price later, they will pay the toll. This is probably the best they will ever do. I suspect 5k>* will be their 2023 and Hololive won't be in Cover's portfolio in 2024.

>> No.14277088

>>14277033
>Matsuri
Stepping on ants doesn't make you look stronger.

>> No.14277124

Wait what happened, why were there suddenly samefagging chinks acting up, or were they just larping

>> No.14277126

>>14277088
And she still mogs all of nijien so if matsuri is an ant what does that make them? Microbes?

>> No.14277133

>>14277079
Kek, good one dead cat bounce/monopoly anon.

>> No.14277165

>>14277124
holoX debut brought too many newfag tourists.

>> No.14277170

>>14277033
man, her fans really fucking dropped her huh

>> No.14277171

>>14277126
Yes.

>> No.14277173

>>14277124
It's always larping, you should know that by now.

>> No.14277186

Let's stop the shitposts and bait now. News came in and another two VR members quietly graduated.

>> No.14277193

>>14277088
10k is still good.

>> No.14277231

>>14277186
The NijiCN branch slowly killing itself

>> No.14277252

>>14277231
More like CN is slowly killing itself

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>>14277193
y-yes

>> No.14277266

>>14277186
Give deets

>> No.14277267

>>14277170
her core fans dropped her for while
her current fans are all apexfag

>> No.14277314

>>14277256
Don't use an image of my wife to shitpost, okay?

>> No.14277318

>>14277186
There goes Niji's China market cope.
They're barely Niji though so I doubt it'll affect them that much.

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>>14276872
Yes its, just take a look at the twitch frontpage.

>> No.14277345

>>14277266
If it's anything that was said before, NijiCN's management is black as hell.

>> No.14277347

>>14277314
Dammit flare! Get out of /#/ !!

>> No.14277353

>>14277267
Yeah, she's pretty much the only Holo who gets higher numbers playing apex than doing anything else these days. Not even Towa has that

>> No.14277371

Why did anybody seriously think trying to break into the Chinese market was ever going to work out? If multi-billion-dollar companies consistently get screwed over trying to do it, why do Vtuber agencies ever think they're magically going to be more successful?

>> No.14277412

>>14277371
Because the prospect of making a shit ton of money blinds businessmen.

>> No.14277414

>>14277322
And that's even disregarding the difference between Twitch CCV and Youtube CCV.

>> No.14277416

yeah, I don't think any other companies can replicate Hololive's boxpushing. it actually feels like a cult

>> No.14277440

>>14277371
Well give us a name at least, or somewhere to start doing research in.

>> No.14277442

>>14277345
They are managed by bilibili, not Niji

>> No.14277455

>>14277186
Virtual Real has nothing to do with Nijisanji. This does not look bad for Nijisanji.

>> No.14277468

>>14277371
because on the rare occasion that happens, it's a shit ton of money that can keep you alive even if you commit several major fuck ups. happens a bit for game companies.

>> No.14277472

>>14277455
lmao

>> No.14277482

>>14277440
Meant for >>14277345

>> No.14277486

>>14277455
https://www.nijisanji.jp/en/members?filter=VirtuaReal&order=subscribe_orders

>> No.14277494

>>14277371
You can get REALLY BIG numbers in the Chinese market if you accept to kneel and agree to giving personal data to them.

>> No.14277503

>>14277371
Numbers. Cover surviving flipping off China and not dying is a miracle.

>> No.14277518

>>14277371
Naivete, they harbored a preconceived notion that chinks are civilized and are capable of cognitive thinking. Literally the only way it will work out is when you exploit the shit out of them, e.g. opium wars

>> No.14277538

>>14277494
>>14277503
Numbers mean nothing if the market is so volatile that you can go from numbers to nothing on a moment's notice

>> No.14277591

>>14277186
Funny how I made this up and turned the topic to China. It's still a shitpost, anons. 2 VR members didn't graduated, but honestly, I wished a niji intern would come in.

>> No.14277590

>>14277371
For the same reason those business go into the chinese market in the first place, everyone looks at the "1.4 billion potential consumers" bit and thinks that they will be the one to successfully conquer the chinese market, not realizing that the entire system is deliberately rigged to be against them.

>> No.14277645

>>14277591
You can make whatever shit about niji here since nobody is tracking them anywhere.

>> No.14277652

>>14277538
To be fair no one actually knows how the vtuber trend will last especially back then. Most of them are probably thinking it's better to pump and dump while they still can.

>> No.14277688

>>14277538
vtubers aren't a big investment.

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>> No.14277694

>>14277538
Anon businesses have done far far dumber things in the search for more profit, and it doesn't help that China deliberately uses their numbers as bait to lure foreign businesses in so they can steal all their technology and trade secrets before booting them out.

>> No.14277760

In a another piece of more interesting news regarding NijiKR, I heard during a member stream, a NijiKR member actually shit talked management and they also said something about more members planning to take business into their own hands. How they plan to do it? No clue yet since they were pretty tight-lipped but it's gonna be somewhat serious.

>> No.14277783

Chloe seems pretty into pokemon from her zatsuden stream, and she's going to stream it soon. Sadly, it seems the pokemon buff is starting to wear out.

>> No.14277786

>>14277652
To be extremely fair it's only very recently that china showed their real colors when it comes to such matters, back in 2008 to 2015 or so China really did seem like a fast growing market to expand towards in order to reap the rewards.

>> No.14277789

>>14277760
yooo... a rebellion in NijiKR?

>> No.14277792

https://www.abemashopping.jp/nijisanji-perfume-6/
Like they've already released so many perfumes but people here all hyped about the second one by holo.

>> No.14277814

/#/ turning into a house of lies

>> No.14277827

>>14277760
That's pretty serious, I don't think we have seen a branch of a company in an open rebellion against its management. Should be an interesting case study

>> No.14277844

>>14277792
>people here all hyped about the second one by holo
wdym?

>> No.14277865

>>14277789
>>14277827
anons, please.

>> No.14277872

>>14277814
Not lies if vtuber management has shown incompetence repeatedly.

>> No.14277876

>>14277814
help the thread by posting real numbers!

>> No.14277879

>>14277786
so is china basically a country sized bubble

>> No.14277898

>>14277760
who cares? they are 3 digit midgets. Cant even beat isegye idol

>> No.14277915

>>14277786
In what way? They always had bad takes during the entire obama era

>> No.14277926

>>14276754
Lex Luthor! I kneel!

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