/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

* FINAL TALLY YESTERDAY *

>187,336: Pekora (Hololive)
>111,325: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>42,954: Fubuki (Hololive)
>41,963: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>35,071: Toya (Nijisanji)
>26,428: Marine (Hololive)
>26,357: Mel (Hololive)
>26,210: Korone (Hololive)
>22,321: Miko (Hololive)
>20,415: Laplus (Hololive)
>18,094: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>18,026: Ayame (Hololive)
>17,979: Calli (Hololive)
>17,139: Saegusa Akina (Nijisanji)
>17,079: Axia Krone (Nijisanji)
>16,349: Shellin Burgundy (Nijisanji)
>15,983: Ars Almal (Nijisanji)
>15,630: Mito (Nijisanji)
>15,510: Iroha (Hololive)
>15,371: Laplus (Hololive)
>15,141: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>14,588: Ange (Nijisanji)
>14,327: Leos (Nijisanji)
>13,831: Lize (Nijisanji)
>13,557: Kaede (Nijisanji)
>12,836: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,647: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,523: Hayato Kagami (Nijisanji)
>10,975: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,953: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>10,673: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>10,464: Shiina Yuika (Nijisanji)
>10,313: Lauren (Nijisanji)

>>14935520
GURA MOGGED

>20k nijien debut even after cover tried to kill them in the crib with backhanded rescheduling
I'm calling it, this is the Gura killer.

Vox's EN Mayuzumi Kai

THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING STATE OF NIJISANSHIT LMFAOOOO
PFFTTTTTHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Damn, vox is cool and >20k, not bad.

Waiting for your suicide video, 30kniggers

>>14937582
I've been saying its retarded that people compare males against females like KZH vs Peko. They have different audiences. Its just as retarded as comparing a male celeb/eceleb to a female one. Despite the male debuts, Gura and Mumei's numbers were normal.

>>14938671
Idk he is too niche for ENaudience who likes simple shit

>>14939761
>ENaudience who likes simple shit
Thats if they're watching a woman

The people actually stuck around to watch them. SUGOI.

SCs for yesterday

>>14937582
DON'T CURSE THEM YOU FUCK

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>Rightful sovereignty
>Ichikara has morals
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Nijisanji has a better following than Hololive in the west
>There are no nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>Views don't matter
>only the west speaks english
>outfit reveals don't count

>>14937582
You shouldn't cast such a curse even to your worst enemy, it's too cruel.

By the way to whatever faggot is making these threads, this one was a whole 55 minutes old when the last one finally died, stop posting new ones so early ffs

>>14940642
Too late, the curse is already administered

>>14930109
>>14930109
>>14930109
Nijikeks can't meme

>>14938712
Some of them reach far enough up their asses they conjured 40k as a floor

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>Rightful sovereignty
>Ichikara has morals
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Nijisanji has a better following than Hololive in the west
>There are no nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>Views don't matter
>only the west speaks english
>outfit reveals don't count

>>14937582
you forgot your watamage pic

holoen girls are trying to buff Sana now lol.

So, What happen to that 40k "Twitter activity" ?

>>14940707
>Mogged by meme review

>Check in on Niji
>They lost to a meme review
>EN Males lost to a Minecraft collab

roru

>+32
jakin jakin, i kneel

>>14940912
buffing sana would be the biggest achievement of the branch if im being honest

>>14940988
Bots

Kinda disappointing number for NijiEN debut to be honest.

>>14940988
Twitter users don't watch streams

What happened to NijiEN Males?

YOu TOLD ME they would MOG Hololive


AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>14941075
still, those are the highest numbers that they ever got for a debut

EN trending in Japan for the first time.

>>14940875
Anyone who actually claimed 40k was either shitposting or legit retarded.
20k was a reasonable guess based off of the past and the fact that Twitter activity =/= YT CCV, ESPECIALLY for Nijisanji who have a disproportionate amount of twitter activity to actual stream viewers.

So what were the final peaks of the debuts?

>>14941075
That's the numberrot and lack of perspective talking.
20k is 'fine'. It's not what I would call amazing given all the supposed hype, but they're not in 'DOA' territory if they were all sub 15k debuts.

>>14941122
SASUGA MANJISANJI!!

>>14940446
How did Iroha get 3 times more SC than Ayame?

>>14941317
They are all DOA bro.

>Those sub numbers
>Those Follow up stream numbers

>>14941122
It's pretty good for the branch but overall kinda disappointing especially with all the pretty big Indies getting wet for them.

>>14941317
I normally would agree with you but then the nijikeks trying to sell 20k like they just won the fucking world cup so yeah, fuck them

So now that the new NijiEN wave is a certified flop with failed debuts where does NijiEN go from here?

>>14941232
Doesn't matter, the sis are busy 'owning' le holobronies now with that number in the splits. Mental gymnastic can go a long way

>>14941363
ASMR and 400k subs congratulation SCs

>>14941364
They got kneecapped hard by Susan compared to the other Nijis.

>>14941389
to hell I hope

>>14940887
>>14937582

>>14941389
Mass graduation

>>14941453
Dont use bots next time

LazuLight (vnuma)
>Pomu 12,431
>Elira 14,859
>Fianna 9,317

Obsydia (mado)
>Selen 14,220
>Rosemi 12,354
>Petra 15,263

Ethyria (mado)
>Nina 12,450
>Millie 14,541
>Enna 14,560
>Reimu 13,926

Luxiem (mado)
>Luca 14,807
>Shu 16,374
>Ike 17,528
>Mysta 19,672
>Vox 20,683

>>14941389
>So now that the new NijiEN wave is a certified flop
theyre not
>where does NijiEN go from here
Comedy-focused gen. Hire the funniest people the get to become vtubers for the company

>>14941389
They go to where NijiIN is.

>>14941527
So now that the new NijiEN wave is a certified flop with failed debuts where does NijiEN go from here??

Don't worry Reimu, you will soon become a mere accessory for the boys like your JP senpai, you will have fun!

>>14940988
kpop botnet

Anyone could still remember Artemis' debut numbers? How does it fare compared with NijiEN males.

>>14941446
True but even without that she's an absolute superchat monster, if it wasn't for Chloe obliterating every record and overshadowing her and Laplus' insane earning we'd be talking about it nonstop and wondering when she'll catch up to Lamy and Rushia

>>14941364
I'm always a fan of waiting and seeing when it comes to data and jumping to conclusions. This goes both ways btw, its why I waited for Holox, and I'll wait for wave 4 before making any calls.
We know that NijiJP tends to have disproportionately low subs vs their viewership vs Hololive (yea that's a mouthful), and these dudes have also been culled multiple times. What they need to do know is let it be known to their mass of twitter interactions, that such a thing HAS happened and that if people have been unsubbed they need to resub.
>>14941407
>>14941382
True, but shitposters, falseflaggers and the delusional exist in both fanbases. Its just that NijiEN has a disproportionately high footprint /here/ relative to their fanbase size.

>>14941653
>Anyone could still remember Artemis' debut numbers?
4k

>>14941389
Cannibalize their own fanbase. It was something I worried about if they didn't get a big turnout and that fear is entirety possible since they only just got slightly above their normal viewership for debuts meaning there wasn't as many tourists as I honestly hoped/thought there was going to be.

twitter trends

>>14941757
This is where getting at least a good 2 weeks data will be helpful (but these weeks are going to get busy so it might be better to wait for at least a month).

>>14941850
Why are leafs like this?

>>14941685
NijiEN has the opposite effect of having low viewership relative to their subs outside one exception.

>>14941757
Gotta wait a couple weeks till anything concrete can be said.
Looks like a lot of JP tourists during the debut.

>>14942013
It's worse. They are chink leaves.

>>14941685
>We know that NijiJP tends to have disproportionately low subs vs their viewership
That's especially true for the guys as well, after Chronoir the next 9 most subbed Nijis are all female, and all of them get lower views than the males with fewer subs than them

>>14941850
Niji CA....

>Gura hitting 20k already
>Mori about to have 10k+ on her karoke

Poor Nijibros.

Does anyone remember what Obsydia/Ethyria got on their first stream?

Niji should make a tourism branch.

>About to hit 20k

Uhhh Nijisisters? How do we cope?

>>14941317
They debuted at a better time (Sunday night compared to Friday night of previous waves), advertised in front of 100k people at yesterday's Niji tournament and became known as the first English speaking male Vtuber group. But I agree with you 20k is fine

It would funny if JP fujos start clamoring onto these English speaking white bois/chinks

>>14942103
The problem is that only applies with JP specifically. EN has a different audience and in the case of the EN males it's up in the air with how well they do later on since theirs no Western Male Western chuubas we can compare.

>>14942283
they are already waiting for the next wave. This time (for sure) will be the promised gen

>>14941850
so US is forever holofags huh

>>14942432
There's Germany, too.

>karaoke went from 7K in the waiting room to 3K the second it started
fuck you susan

>>14942405
Ngl, from a pure "this is interesting and I want to see how it does", I'm excited.

My inner tribalist wants them to crash and burn, or at least steal viewership and tank SCs of first 3 waves. Kind of annoying how the tribalism be sometimes, but. Not about to go shitpost in the nijiEn generals over it.

>>14942405
Does anyone think that NijiEN management will focus more on males instead of females since they get better numbers?

This might make some of the girls go menhera since Pomu or Finanna already expressed their discontent towards Niji'sa style of expansion already.

Quick reminder about all the grandiose claims that Nijiniggers make and how they all end up flopping instead

>Wave 2
Had the infamous Gura Killer
>Wave 3
Was the singing gen so powerful that mainstream recording artists were going to take notice and shoot NijiEN popularity to the moon
>Wave 4
Was going to change the game and be so influential that western vtubing would never be the same

All of them ended up being massive flops. You would think that Nijiniggers would take the hint that maybe we just aren't that into you.

>>14942405
There are plenty of Western Male chuubas, they're all in the pits.
Niji's gonna snag the dubious honor of "most important EN male chubas"

>>14942608
You're reaching a bit.
Debuts are debuts, and its way too early to be jumping to any conclusions.
>>14942531
Newfag

>>14942608

Ik about Pomu but what did Finana say about it?

Ame delayed the MC stream for 1 hour and i didnt even noticed it

>>14942608
Since that is exactly what happened in NijiJP I'm going to say yes, lol.

Manjisanji.

Nijisanji finally inclining
https://twitter.com/tuyoki/status/1472754394814943238?s=21

HoloID got 50k+ on new costume reveal not even debut, HoloX got 180k on their debut, nijiEN 3 got 15k at debut but they average sub 1k on regular streams. 17k for a debut stream is terrible, especially this is the long awaited male chuubas that nijiniggers are hoping to revolutionize the vtubing industry and finally dethrone holoEN.

30k watching holo en.

30k+ ppl watching holo en.

since NijiEn's number is not bad, maybe Cover might consider release homostar_EN.

Fuuuuuck, Gura wasn't able to get to 20k before Mori started. Oh well.also, Sana with another stream above 4k means she's going to be another step further away for Selen to catch up.

>>14942901
>not bad
>Sub 20k

??????????????????????

>>14942756
>dethrone EN with fuckbois
Genuinely don't think NijiEN is even dreaming of it

Sana really can't be saved huh

>>14942933
Vox got 20.7k

>>14942933
not bad for the branch's standards

>>14942985
Boogie voxx is pretty good yeah

JWU, did NijiEN males mogged NijiEN females?

>>14942993
Its a shameful number. Nijisanji is supposed to be one of the "big 2" and some Nijiniggers like to say they are still the biggest vtubing agency. You think 20k is good for an organization that is the "biggest"?

seethe holobrony, next wave will be THE wave. wait and tremble faggot

>>14943026
for the surprise of nobody, yes

>>14943026
Yes.

>>14943026
Reimu is fucked.

>>14943063
considering the numbers of the previous debuts, yes and not even a nijifag

>>14942956
Fuck Sana. I'm tired of saviorfagging her. This last quiet break pissed me off. The fact she's come back running out of nowhere shows that someone said something to her.

>>14942756
>>14943063
Holobronies, please stop goalpost moving and admit the debut numbers were good. They broke all records while overlapping with pedosharts that you were doomposting about it killing their hype.

You know, I want these males to be more successful than the females so that they start beef against each other.

Beef and drama will always incline numbers and Nijisanji is no stranger to inner company beef anyway.

Poop 10 more waves, youll eventually beat Myth debut

>>14943186
>They broke all records
No lmao, they broke your bad records.

>>14943148
I'm not a nijifag, but these numbers were better than all the other wave debuts. I'll give them that for sure.

>>14943186
>They broke all records
What records? Even if we are just talking about EN debuts Council and IRyS easily went over 90k. Even HoloID went over 60k. Then of course you had HoloX with over 180k.

>>14943214
Watch the males get sponsorships before Wave 2 and 3 (minus Selen).

>>14943223
More like 30

>>14943280
Anon, i think you replied to the wrong post

>>14943026
You now remember that NijiJP girls ranked VERY high on 2019 SC chart
Their state now....

Mumei joined and if Ame wasn't such a mistake, she would join too for the free Collab views.

>>14943134
lovingly by me

>>14943295
Stop being facetious holobrony

>>14941850
and people still ask for HoloES or NijiES lmao

>>14943439
The truth hurts Nijikek but you will eventually learn to accept it.

>>14943428
Woww ruuuuude.

>>14943428
thanks for the feedback lol

>>14943439
Stop seething so much over facts, nijikek. You're embarrassing yourself.

>>14943186
The goalpost was whether or not they would be breakout hits and get good enough numbers to establish male Vtubers a viable thing in the West. They underperformed the expected turnout despite the novelty buff.

>>14943439
LMAO deflecting nijikek, broke a trash record is good I guess for nijis standard

Mori 11K get

>>14943578
I'd still say wait a week or two and see if the tourists stick and if they don't cannibalize the rest of the girls.
That said, their MV is debuting in 7 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7SKtUCGYQk
Currently 5.4k waiting.

>>14943578
If these guys manage to increase other male vtubers, then I will admit they are a success. But if they're the only ones getting big numbers, fat fucking chance.

>>14943428
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW7lXW2p4D8

>>14943698
>Male vtubers
>increasing
kek, nobody cares about shitty male vtubers

whats the biggest number you've ever seen?

>>14943785
my post number

>>14943785
Check em

>>14943578
>underperformed
>5k higher peak than the previous most watched NijiEN debut
Ok retard

~31k viewers including the official channel

Good numbers for the Wave4, iirc wave 3 got only about 20k

>>14944061
Wasn't the main channel got more views than the girls channel for wave 3?

>>14944165
Thanks to that bitch Selen for ruining my debut. She could not have shut up for one minute.

>>14941019
>Graduating sana would be the biggest achievement*
Fixed that for you, there is no hope for Sana

Looks like Nijisanji fixed their site so you can't see the max quantity anymore.
7569 waiting for the MV right before it started.

I have come to the conclusion that MANjisanji is the funnier outcome with this wave. Wish you all the best, nijisisters.
t. holofag

>>14943785
only the current highest numbers

Holobronies sure on that copium

>>14944266
Who do you think would menhera this male wave for stealing their thunder?

>>14944320
>Midget posting

>>14944000
Anon the expectations for them was to do better than that. Only one member got 20k while the rest were under. Those numbers aren't going to to turn heads their way if their only going to be slightly better than the girls.

>>14944266
This

No matter the outcome us HoloCHADs are the ultimate winners here. If the branch fails then we celebrate at how shitty Nijishitty is. However, if the branch succeeds then it proves everything we have been saying about Manjisanji all along.

Enjoy the coming days HoloCHADs. We are going to have plenty of shit post material.

>>14944220
>my debut
GET OUT OF HERE ST-GHOST GIRL.

>>14944165
No, it was about 1/4 of the total CCV

>>14944220
Okay Reimu, time for you to go fawn over the males as they steal your viewership.

>>14941662
Even Koyori has been strong as fuck SC wise so far. So far SC wise X has a titan, 2 monsters and a strong fighter, it's crazy.

>>14944440
She doesn't have any viewership to steal though

>>14944320
What happened to the 40k Twitter followers on debut ;3

>>14944350
Pomu

>>14944381
dont be retarded, the sane numberfags already predicted that they would get at best 20K, the ones who were selling their debuts to 30-40K are either delusional nijifags who bought the twitter engagement bs or falseflaggers

>>14944440
They're friends of Elira, not mine. Who gives a shit anyway?

>>14944509
Pomu is going to beg Kiara to get her into Hololive after her viewership tanks just like the viewership of the NijiJP females. Once Manjisanji takes hold there is no hope for the females in that company.

>>14944507
Twitter activity and actually watching streams live. Name a more disconnected duo.

20k get

Is the "Inclining NijiEN" debut stream about to get mogged by the overlapping, dead sub Gura standard mincraft stream?

>>14944606
# and watching streams?

How do we save this thread from holobrony tribalists? Literally ooga booga cavemen mentality and just see numbers as a way to attack the rival tribe.

I would certainly welcome the new Council: Kronii, Mumei, Fauna, Sana and Gura.

>>14944614
Kind of slow, bit then again Mori sapped numbers and this stream has been a slow growing of numbers.

>>14944614
>Mogs NijiEN debuts twice in one night
I fucking love this based shark

>>14944662
Try to get good numbers :^)

>>14944690
& IRyS!

>>14944507
Absolute copium

>>14944662
when niji wins something, they even lost their big Mario Kart collab.

>>14944559
The fact that the low-ball expectation was only just barely met by one only 1 of them is sad.

>>14944662
>just see numbers as a way to attack the rival
That's your answer, help your oshi get high numbers and attack holofags/nijifags and stop playing victim LMAO

>>14944662
keep replying to bait

>>14944741
>>14944779
>>14944828
Go back to /v/ you underage tards.

>>14944690
>Sana
Fuck off with your midget.

>>14944703
Ame is starting too, i think Gura probably won't get much higher now, unless they play for a long time maybe.

>>14944690
>>14944746

>>14944662
The only way would be to make blatant tribalist bullshit with no basis in reality bannable, but that would require jannies and Meidos to actually out in some effort and would result in a looooooooy of bans.

>>14944864
>deflecting
classic

>>14944828
>help your oshi get high numbers
We can't help anything as individuals, this is just a spectator sport, please enjoy the show.

>>14944864
I will try to go there once you get good numbers :^)

>>14944662
Um.... make more bait threads?? That should do.

>>14944864
butthurt nijikek or just SEA lunch time?

>>14944755
>Luxiem's debut numbers were low and sad
>got mogged by Gura
>b-but look at these trending numbers!!!!!
The only ones on copium here are nijikeks. Nothing new on that front though. This needs to go on the nijicope list.

>>14944755
Anon you didn't answer my question where were they during debut ;3

Reimu please stop visiting this place it's not good for your mental health

>that amount of seethe
I think he bought the Twitter interaction shit and unironically thought 40k was a given

So, anons who watched debuts, your predictions for nijimales? Does any of them has potential?

My theory is that this thread is full of retarded children because they have huge overlap with Gura's fanbase which are notorious for being underage and retarded.

>>14945193
Oops.
Except that anyone that knows Niji numbers knows that you can't count on twitter interaction to actually translate into live viewers...

>>14945280
This is an enormous amount of salt over losing to the dead sub shark lmao

>>14945280
ESLChama, don't be the retard here

It's been a long time since we have multi-member MC collab like this.
Almost 40k people are watching HoloEN right now with only 4 members streaming.

I didn't notice but did Nijisanji give up on their shorts program?
Last one was 10 days ago.

Last week's superchats are up

>>14945227
I watched all the debuts from start to finish and they are all lost causes. The worst and most cringe vtuber content I have ever watched.

Sana 5k get.
Finally.

>>14945467
Doesn't NijiEN average like less than 8k with 4 members?

so how many people were there for the single premiere of this wave?

>>14945618
Selen tends to bring the most unique viewers.
A full collab without Selen will get around 5k~ but with Selen it tends to get bumped up to 7-8k max or so from what I remember.

apparently this is Ike from Luxiem https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBMKz98gItEsj2OTolXs3jQ
high tier chuba. It seems Anycolor went full Myth

>>14945227
I have a good feeling for them and like many anons said, they will mogged and cannibalized the shit out of the Nijigirls view

>noooo you can't shit on council for having shit numbers that's not what this thread is for nijinigger nijinigger nijinigger
>lmao kek get fucked nijiniggers nijien has shit numbers underperforming rofl
Getting some really conflicting messages here.

>>14945555

>>14945806
>/vt is one person
Please. (You) know better.
I shit on both. IN SHIT WE TRUST

>>14945806
Good. This is holo board, go and make your own when your oshi is relevant

>>14945806
I shit on council when they get shit number. But the sad thing is, even as their lowest, they bested nijiEN

So it looks like Vox is streaming during Nina/Ina hours (late Euro hours).
Shu is going straight for NA primetime.

>>14945915
>>14945927
Based
>>14945920
Cringe

>>14945920
Why do you get called out so much if this is the holo board?

>>14945806
???
Council gets a lot of shit when they are being lazy,
only kronii(when she decides to be active) and mumei get decent-good numbers for their gen, the rest underperfom even though bae recently has been inclining and got the koreans by the balls if her SC's are anything to go by

>>14945787
>>14945574
The big question is, do they have any Apex addicts among them? Suck viewers out of Selene and incline to the moon, like silver king.

>>14945994
>Shu is going straight for NA primetime
DOA

>>14945806
What are you talking about? This whole thread constantly shits on Council, it's not just Niji falseflaggers.

>>14945806
You assume the people that defend council are the same ones shitting on NijiEN

When HoloX debut, Nijifags were non stop doomposting and shitting every little detail.
Now watch them forget and go against their own words when Nijimales get decent numbers.

If Edengumi fell, HoloX failed to be the new top and now watch Luxiem fail to be HoloEN killer.

>>14946200
>now watch Luxiem fail to be HoloEN killer
No one said they were going to be. They might mog holostars, but not holoEN.

>>14946102
Vox is starting a Dark souls and Civ V series in his first week.

gold medal predictions
>20 holo (marine/noel bath asmr)
>21 niji (niji marika main game lottery)
>22 holo (fbk fishing)
>23 holo (fbk fishing)
>24 niji (chigusa 3D)
>25 holo (christmas event)
>26 niji (niji marika main game semi & finals)

>>14945070
it's redundant

>>14946200
HoloX is still on its way to being the top albeit in different ways (except Laplus whose absolutely going to strong viewership wise still)

>>14946265
I guess you haven't seen all the threads and claims these past few days.

They were only buried from the horny threads, peko outfit & nijikart discussions yesterday.

>>14946200
Literally no one thinks HoloEN is in any danger.

Even in the absolute best case they will be in lower council numbers.

>>14946277
Good choices for a male streamer on paper, but Vtuber avatar might be a debuff here.

>>14946400
Yes, I didn't bother reading the pathetic lone falseflags you posted here.

any numbers or this is a gossip thread atm? LMAO

>>14946200
How did Edengumi fell so hard? They seemed like a breakout success from the SC numbers right after debut. I don't watch niji so if any numbernijis can explain please

>>14945781
Anon, whenever Cover signs a utaite, you know they'll be a good addition to the family dynamic.
Whenever AnyColor signs a utaite, you know they'll be a dead weight and overlapping with the others.

>>14945070
>>14946358
If you are shitposter tribalist and not a SEAnigger chances are you are a spic which is just as bad.

If one of these guy gets to play with Dream SMP, this thread will explode.

SANA WATCH OUT

>>14946347
This is too conservative. Watch Fubuki catch the fish and beat Chigusa.

>>14946606
>Debut buff
>Under vspo
Ngmi

>>14946606
Not happening, EOPfags are asleep now

>>14946606
Guerillas during the dead of night are not a good idea.

>>14946606
>First stream after debut, as buffed as it gets
>Can't even break 3k

>>14946723

>>14946606
Did he just start or did the debut buff literally end with the debut itself?

>>14946539
They got decent SCs.
But their highest is mogged by Polka and Council (except Sana).
The others are even much lower (lain...)

>>14946816
Noah's at 2.7k now. Ngmi

Can you please explain to me what is happening here?

>>14946816
He looks too gay, even for male chuuba standard. I doubt any guy would wanna watch him.

>>14946812
>guerilla stream

>>14946816
already doa lmao

>>14946832
Guerilla post-debut stream, or was it states to happen?
Regardless, too early to tell.

>>14946606
>already barely drawing 2k
Holy fuck that didn't take long, hahahahahaha. NijiEN is a certified failure. Males were their trump card and they failed. Now they have nothing left.

>>14946558
Does Dream accept collaboration invite from some randos? i dont think so

>>14946878
>>14946812
Goodnight

>>14946932
Watch Vox or Mysta get numbers equal to their debut.
I hope you can still keep that smirk on your ugly face

>>14941850
Oh God, don't tell me I'm living in a country with a bunch of faggot lovers!

>>14946025
>much
Because nijiniggers are a bunch of loud inferior subhuman who cant meme for shit

>>14946816
He looks like a character from code geass except gayer

He broke 3k. Holy shit, Sana is in sight.

>>14946816
I honestly thought the debut buff would be more....

Ame...

>>14946200

>>14946937
They are from the biggest vtuber company on Earth. Why do you think they are some "rando"?

>>14946906
Honestly? A six person minecraft collab with just her and Gura povs is giving sana slightly better numbers. And the holox cat is kinda inconsistent.

>>14947054
this is what happens when you delay your stream for 1 hour

>>14947110
There's a lot of dumb posts in this thread today and this one takes the cake.

What the fuck happened to Ame? Her numbers are pathetic, mid-roster holoJP doing a morning stream tier.

>>14947021
>he thinks it's a meme
You're LITERALLY the new bronies. Nobody likes you retards outside of your circlejerks. Holobronies are hated in every board, including /vt/.

>>14947019
Your post has been saved for grudge posting later :)

>>14946539
Lain is a 3 view.

>>14947110
unless Dream familiar with Niji, he will see their number first, and drop their invitation email into the trash bin

>>14946937
collabing with them dont really boost views I mean look at ironmouse. you need to part of "dreamsmp" but then they have 33 members and 80% are midgets.

>>14947188
Nice filename, looks familiar

>>14947110
Does dream play with anyone that's not in his friend group? Also Dream would probably take one look at them currently and not give a shit because their too new and small even if their part of an organization.

>>14947137
Sana's numbers are expected since it's a multiperson collab with 3 POVs but what happened to the pink cat?
I didn't think that game was a debuff.
I expected like double what she did.

It would be interesting to watch Lui's, Coyote's and, at this point, even Orca's numbers while playing games because all three's numbers are garbage in game streams thus far.

>>14947287
Only with the top twitch streamers when he goes out of his group.

>>14947137
>And the holox cat is kinda inconsistent
Seriously though, what’s with her. Her ccv fluctuating too much, superchat reading excluded.

>>14946558
> Day 1
> Already thinking of leeching
Nijisisters...

>>14946906
Cat's Pokemon stream also didn't do well, her singing and drinking streams were surprisingly strong though, don't know why.

>>14947287
says on wikia they invite guests

>>14947282
It's a Barneyfag parody. Lurk more.

>>14947327
Ah so absolutely no chance than unless they make a jump to Twitch (which is only like a 0.01% chance increase). Dream unironically has a better chance collabing with VShojo than NijiEN.

>>14947485
That list of people doesn't inspire much confidence.

It's over... Sana bro...
First stream after debut lmao

>>14947485
So minimum of 7M subs for a guy to be invited

>unironically thinking that vtubers means shit to people in the actual streaming world
Do you really belieb?

>>14946972
Hey this a pretty good number for NijiEN

>>14947485
those are the kind of streamers that know they can only benefit from HUGE collabs
they understand the concept of leeches

>>14942283
Buff game with over 3.67m and finding it hard to hit 20k.
Hahah which my nijiEN boys got more viewers then their own subs.
Hololive declining
Nijisanji inclining

>>14947655
Kek

>>14947188
>poal
I voted like 50 times every time some niggers pull this shit thinking it's relevant

>>14947444
Most likely because she's a second choice for many. She does well when there's no overlaps with other HoloX members, but her numbers drop like a rock when Laplus or Iroha streams.
As a second choice, safe games that have already been played to death are a debuff. She needs to get more creative with her game choices, her RPG maker horror stream did decent numbers.

>>14947668
Vtubers get higher numbers than these "streamers", and they actually try to create contents compared to "Reacting" streamers.

>>14947748
I wonder if this is one schizo that types like this or some this is some sort of meme at this point

>>14947668
Actually I'm wondering if nijibros wont get dunked on a lot by the existing establishment. I feel like female vtubers get a free pass due to how shitty streaming can be for them otherwise, but I dont think males are going to get the bumper rails.

>>14947748
>Meme review mogs all over debuts

>>14947858
And? Thinking that Niji EN males would score a collab with them is delusional and high on drugs.

I really didn't expect La+ and Iroha to be the two big draws of holoX in terms of views. I thought La+ would alienate people very fast with her style and that Iroha would be too plain to draw people in. Never making predictions again.

4k from Shu, this is much bigger than any other NijiEN. They inclined

>>14945806
>>14944662
SEE
>>14947748

>>14947995
Its guerilla too

>>14947900
Ya know whats going to be REALLY funny?!

All signs point to HoloID 3 debuting soon. Its gonna be REALLY funny when the debut numbers for the ID branch totally mog all over the NijiEN wave 4 numbers. I am going to have a laugh.

>>14942756
I mean this was pretty much what every sensible anon on /#/ was predicting for their numbers. I was thinking 700+ would be a success and they have 1000, which is fine for them.
Now Riku should have enough confidence in the market to debut another 20 chuubas, both male and female.

>>14947668
Mori and Gura unironically have more influence than most large streamers outside a select few especially Mori at this point since her music is being played on the radio in Japan.

>>14948035
Anon, is that even a fucking question. Sure they’ll debut with high numbers but will succumb to 3 digits like the other IDs

>>14947995
So the big Niji Male wave that is going to change vtubing forever can't even hit Sana numbers on the first stream after debut? That is pathetic.

>>14948035
Watch Nijifags compare it to Myth, Council, HoloX and Edengumi Debut Numbers lmfao.

>>14948046
You know, their success could actually doom the lower end girls if Riku feels comfortable spamming waves due to this.

>>14948073
Doesn't stop vtubers as a whole being looked downed upon or ignored entirely.

>>14947724
well technically nijien already collabed with the big streamers. iirc they got invited here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RIwjrO3A4w

Do nijibros not understand debut buff? Unless they are retarded enough to do sc reading for their first stream.

>>14948073
No, they don't, leave your bubble. A low-mid tier streamer like Maximillian Dood utterly dwarfs any vtuber in terms of influence.
That is because most popular and influential streamers are men, while the most popular vtubers are women, but when you compare both the most popular female streamer doens't even break into the top 200.

>>14942432
Oh say can you see~

>>14948124
Anime is looked down by Normies.
Vtubers are looked down by both Normies and Anime-onlys.

>>14947304
It's 8am JST on a Monday, and with a new schedule that not a lot of people might have caught. But then again her Asakoyos are usually better than that, and I'm not sure if a 1-hour difference is significant enough to account for the drop.

>>14948046
20 is a bit much but I can see 15 by the end of 2022, three mixed waves of male/female. Still nowhere close to 2018/2019 where they were launching like 50 livers per year.

>>14948194
Being invited to act as filler isn't really quite the same as a proper collab Anon...

>>14948124
Gura and Mori are looked at favorably though by large streamers and Gura is unironically liked enough to be potentially collabed with by large some really big people on Twitch (see Sykunno and his friend circle in particular).

>>14941850
Why did Ethyria trend more than Lazulight and Obsydia

>>14948287
I wonder at which point they'll just give up trying for the one big friend group angle.

>>14948278
Would've been different if holobronies didn't ruin the reputation of the vtuber fanbase.

>>14948124
I think at least Mori is trying to carry them with music collabs even though she gets the de buff if its in her channel and Gura will never acknowledge their existence at all

>>14948287
Sounds like a recipe for disaster for the previous waves.

>>14948234
Fuck I'm too sleepy to type properly, my point is that the most popular female streamer isn't even top 200 overall, and the most popular vtuber is Pekora, who's still not the #1 female, much less relevant in the overall scale.

>>14948322
Gura ghosts anybody who tries to leech off of her. I think that is pretty based. Fuck the clout chasers.

>>14948123
Can't wait for some of the girls to go full menhera on this.

>>14948380
Shame for Gura, Reflect is a flop but that still got 10M views. She's gonna incline for music collabs.

>>14948396
La+ actually gives a shit and puts on a good show. Kronii is also funny sometimes but she sounds like she's winging it 99% of the time.

>>14948396
What did I told you yesterday ?

>>14948358
If NijiEN management were taking notes from hololive? Probably never, they'll try to push it forever regardless of how many they debut. Even if they add 15 livers next year they'd "only" be at 30, and hololive had no problems box-pushing with that much. Whether or not it works for them is another matter of course, they better hope their new hires are professional enough to keep personal relationships off stream.

>>14948479
>A flop
Anon what?
It's slowed down a lot (partly due to no MV********)
If Reflect is a flop, what does that make Contrail?

>>14948234

>>14948234
Anon Hololive's influence and Vtubers in general for that matter have a fair amount amount influence that extends beyond just their sub count. Kizuna AI was a literal cultural icon and talked with celebreties. I would Hololive and Kizuna AI above most popular live streamers.

>>14948538
Doesn't that only work with Hololive because they spread sponsorships around so everyone gets fed?
NijiEN is at 15 vtubers and they're still struggling to get sponsors.

>>14948580
And? Sugita is a nousagi but he's still 500 thousand times more relevant than Pekora.

>>14948407
Didn't Gura draw something for sykunno and he uses it in his twitter profile? I think Chumbuds seethe in that and she never tried to at least mention him again?

>>14948628
Hololive is not at Kizuna Ai level yet though. They have only made minor appearances on TV and other media so far.

throughout every number rotted mind, every Holo vs. Niji shit post battle, and every dedicated schizo we have the people that baffle me the most are the ones who feel the need to constantly belittle vtubers by comparing them to so called "regular" streamers. Why the fuck are you even here? Get the fuck out.

>>14948732
oh chumbuds on global seethed hard at that request, specially because it was done in a members only stream

>>14948782
And he showed up and interacted iirc?

>>14948629
Not talking about sponsorships but about how friendly and close-knit they can look (aka what NijiEN/ex-holoEN fans kept touting as 'chemistry', as if it was invented by them). You can give the impression of a big happy friend group even with 30 people as long as it doesn't devolve into competition or relationship drama.

>>14948832
i think it was him who made the request

>Shu with his newly acquired army could not even defeat Sana, the weakest general of the council
Rikku sama...

>>14948767
Because I'd like to laugh at you people. Also, Jerma will forever be more entertaining than your anime streamers.

>>14948632
Pekora/Hololive for that matter getting acknowledged and talked about by people like him testament to their influence and popularity.

>>14948767
It's the same TT faggot that just baiting for reply. Best ignore it.

>>14948832
yup, he's the one who made the request after all, part of the seethe was because gura gave him special attention because checkmark since he posted that comment on his personal yt account

>>14948899
Shoe-kun...

>>14948763
I know but the fact that they're even making appearences on TV at all and their music coming up on the radio is good indicator of them being more influential than a good portion of popular streamers.

>>14948278
Anime-only people are faggots and sub-human trash. Manga is the true media of the weebs

>>14948899
They are not competing with holoEN, they are competing with holostars. Roberu already got a weaker number than usual today. Good luck starsfags.

Who will win?

>The runt of HoloEN who randomly takes month long breaks randomly playing Minecraft in a split POV setting while overlapping with the numbers queen of EN

or

>The new debut for NijiEN's revolutionary, ground breaking, and meta changing new all male wave in his first stream after their massively hyped debuts

The result may surprise, frighten, shock, amaze, and leave you infertile.

>>14948763
what? Hololive is mainstream in Japan

>>14949108
Good then. Maybe Cover would finally close down Holostar and invest everything in the Holo girls.

>>14949108
are there even genuine starsfags on this board? i mostly see the homos being used for cuckposting and global cheering on them from time to time because no one is live at that moment

>>14948358
It's already at that point. 5 more people this quickly is pushing it over the limit.

>>14948767
Realistically vtubing will forever be a niche thing at the end of the day. But the schizos who post regular streamer numbers to "mog" vtubers are usually salty fags whose oshi's stream lost that day(which in most case are nijisisters)

>>14949140
Mainstreamish but not Kizuna AI levels of cultural touchstone.

>>14948322
Sykunno and the Offline "Rape" TV house? Holo would never let that happen with their history. Also they stream with Nijiniggers and the Vwhores

>>14948763
Nah, They've surpassed her prime a while ago

>>14949197
There's a few, they had their own thread at one point too.

>>14949108
>competing with stars
kek, they aren't even EN. So far, this is the real big EN male vtuber group and it doesn't look good.

>>14949265
Speaking of Offline TV, I find it funny that LilyPichu was cheated on by some guy, and then assaulted by a former OTV member and is now dating Michael. I wonder why Micheal Reeves is even dating her.

>>14949265
Yeah and I'm happy for that I'm just pointing it out that Hololive is actually relevant to streaming in general.

I thought collab boost views so why is hana still a midget? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jqlXmEqh58

>>14942432
Until they can hire people with southern accents, yes

>>14949471
What does that mean? They're relevant to the people who watch them, just like the minecraft players and anitubers and drama streamers matter to the people who are into that stuff. The fact is they get bigger numbers than a lot of the "famous" ecelebs do.

>>14948234
Neck yourself.

>>14949427
Holostars audience is mostly EOP.

>>14949432
She was raped by the former owner of OTV before dating the guy who cheated on her if I'm remember. Also Micheal Reeves is dating her because no one else would want that pimple covered face then someone who's fucked in the head as much as LilyPichu.
Their all a bunch of fucking leeches

>>14943439
Better go to sleep now Reimu

>>14949427
Any other big en male groups that look better?

Shu had fallen, WHO ELSE SEEK DEATH

>>14949821
ETA until NijiEN guys and girls start throwing cheating and rape accusations at each other?

>>14949597
Cuz she's boring. And the girl she's collabing with is boring. Also that\s from August so any boost would be long gone.

>DILF Corpse doing a guerrilla stream very soon
>Gura still streaming
Oh boy...

>>14950109
Isn’t Vox the only straight one?
At least that’s what NijiENfags keep saying.

>>14950109
I think only a few of them are even in the same city so its unlikely. Also all the guys are fags.

Well that was short-lived

>>14950243
Holosisters... we got too cocky. It really was just a dead cat bounce after all.

>>14949821
>Today I learned the only ever chance to get a shot on dating is to date a mentally broken girl
>...most of the holos are mentally broken
>my oshi is mentally broken
There is a light at the end if the tunel

>>14950243

holobros, the excitement is all gone...

nijifags really praising a 20k debut numbers?
what a cope

>>14949304
I appreciate the laugh anon.

>>14949111
Vox's CCV even lower right now, like anons have been saying, just tourists

>>14948035
of course they will anon. Most HoloID gets midget numbers but they are still Hololive and will get insane buffs for their debuts. Like for december Pomu has had better numbers than Ollie (according to that chart in the last thread), but if they both had a new costume or birthday or anniversary or whatever, Ollie would literally get ten times Pomu´s numbers. So HoloID 3 will easily be closer to 100k than to NijiEN wave 4´s debuts

>>14950791
Guerilla at 1 AM EST

>>14946347
are these really all the events? feels weak for december, even october felt much stronger

Hololive

2020
June:1
July:2
August:2
October:3
November:3
December:2

2021
January:1
May:6
June:1
July:5
October: 1
November: 6
December: 2

Nijisanji

2020

July:1
August:5
December:3

2021

January:1
June:2
July:2
August:5
December: 1

Here are some merch numbers, as expected reimu is dead last

>>14950918
comparison 100k YoY (avg & median)

>>14950918
>2 Pekora, 187k
>3 Gura, 194k
Sneaky sorting

>>14951007
is there any stock visible like the voicepack?

>>14951035
top 20 2021
>>14951058
shit lol

>>14950176
Remember that fat DnD cunt that was doing shit in VR chat with a bunch of 2veiw vtubers?
Distance sure didn't stop him!

>>14950852
Their fans are SEAniggers streaming on NA time is a debuff. They should get better numbers for streaming outside of NA time. This is not a good sign.

>Already head to head with Sana, alone
Yeah, the vox guy will be nijien face and frontrunner

>>14951007
It's a shame that Ethyria didn't get their own (limited) voice packs. Maybe staff has realized that it's not that profitable since only Pomu's and Selen's were sold out.

>>14951171
Nevermind, already surpassed Sana lol.

I didn't realize Vox is also doing a guerrilla, close to 5k. It looks like niji boys will be around 3k-4k for this first week. Who knows if they'll drop to the same numbers as the girls

>>14951095
no idea

>>14951095
Nope. They've fixed it and now you can't order more than 5 or 40 copies.

>>14951264
kek, fucking reimu reported it to the mgmt so she wont get exposed

>>14951264
Chargeback is a bitch.

>>14951163
you have zero clue about what times NijiEN get numbers on? This is debuff hours, only Petra usually streams these times, and Selen sometimes, but she gets better numbers on almost every other timeslot

>the NijiEN males' viewership drops like a rock after the first couple of weeks
or
>the NijiEN males' viewership continues to rise, but to the detriment of the NijiEN girls who all see significant hits to their viewership and SCs over time

Which would be the funnier outcome?

>>14951395
Mogging holostars and making the branch irrelevant which is what's most likely going to happen.

>>14951395
How about both, the males viewership drops but the girls gachikoi leave too.

>>14951007
Wonder how often is this updated. I've checked several hours ago and it was still the same.