/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Because she won't have another oppurtunity, she's graduating soon.

Try DeepL instead of whatever you are using now.

>>1488315
She has 3 debuts anon, don't worry, she can keep doing this all day

>>1488315
Because she is reclining.
Okayu, Pekora, Korone, and Fubuki have better numbers today and yesterday than she during her 6 months anniversary stream.

she's going to graduate once 1 year passes

>>1489175
The most hilarious thing about gurafags is when you tell them how badly their oshi is reclining, they still won't watch or supacha for her. They would go on hour long arguments but refuse to support Gura.

>>1489175
True. EN is dead as FUCK at the moment. Doesn't help that Gura at the moment puts absolutely minimal effort into her streams.

Gen2 will definitely bump it up again by some degree though. The question is if EN will eventually reach an equilibrium that isn't shit tier compared to JP once they have gen3 or so.

>KFPajeets so assmangled they're moving on from Ina and Ame anti-threads to Gura
She's infinitely more relevant than your /cgl/ lolcow menhera whore will ever be, cope, seethe, dilate.

>>1489175
>>1495184
>reclining
and that's a good thing

>>1495908
If you knew anything about her, you would know she's a massive numberfag. It's why she applied specifically to the biggest vtubing company instead of any lesser companies or just stayed as her own thing. She also started reading sc messages because she knows she's reclining, and she blatantly shilled Priconne with a prewritten script for big money. In-character she would say the opposite though, gotta keep the simps simping.

>>1489175
Even Okayu? Jesus christ

>>1489175
>>1495184
>reclining
keep telling yourself that, her VOD views are still the highest in all of hololive by a huge margin

oh and it does not even to be mentioned that Okayu, Korone and especially Fubuki can only dream about reaching those numbers
also even considering the fact that live viewers do not mean shit at the end of the day, guras current average is only very slightly behind Marine and Pekora

>>1495649
>True. EN is dead as FUCK at the moment.
the absolute delusion of weeaboos
EN is still the most successful gen no matter how much you seethe

>>1488315
Because her debut was awkward enough that it still works 6 months in

>>1496354
Sankisei kneels

>>1489175
You can't say that without evidence.

>>1496484
So Korone and Oyaku are stronger than themselves + Marine, Shion, and Fubuki?
Sounds like maybe these datapoints are completely unwrangled into anything meaningful don't you think??

>>1496354
damn pekora is strong in views

>>1496586
Numberfags don't understand numbers
They just grab the biggest number they can find and treat it like gold

>>1496484
Now lets take another look at the numbers who really matter:

Okayu/Korone VOD views: 136k
Fuubuki: 163k
Gura: 300k

Pekora is the only one who got 60k more than Gura but that is only because she streamed for thrice the amount of time. Also its interesting how you faggots ignore that the EN collab was on everyones individual channels and thus the live viewers were naturally all split up. Meanwhile the collab on Fubukis channel only was on her channel and all viewers gathered there.

Is it not funny how you faggots always conveniently ignore the fine and not so fine details and end results when trying to downplay guras numbers? But no worries I will always be there to destroy your delusions with actual facts. Have a nice day.

>>1488315
she's an idiot

>>1488315
What is the difference between reacting to it now and another 6 months later? It literally makes no difference at this point.

>>1497121
Based anon who actually understands numbers.

>>1497121
Why do chumbuds pretend vod views are the only metric that matters?

>>1497493
they sure do matter more than live viewers

>>1488315
Im so sorry mods

>>1497578
I will never act like a degenerate on a sfw board again. also i hope gura is doing okay, she doesnt seem okay

>>1497414
Because usually streamers change in the span of months. The longer you wait, the bigger the change, the more meaningful the reaction. Of course you shouldn't wait multiple years for that, but 6 months is ridiculous unless you did a 180° on your persona. Gura barely changed.

>>1497493
Because it's been proven time and again that something fucked up happened behind the scenes to screw with live viewcounts since mid December. Not sure why people continue to ignore this, but I guess it's easier for shitposting purposes.

>>1496354
>Putting two nearly identical shades of green in the same gen on your graph.

>>1496354
Keep in mind this metric doesn't even include watch time from VOD views since you can't track that, and EN gains significantly more VOD views compared to JP.

>>1489175
>because she's reclining
That's why she has more video views than Okayu, Pekora, Korone, or Fubuki?
It's almost like you're full of shit.

>>1496354
When was this made? I don't see HoloID Gen 2 on it.

>>1498061
That doesn't mean she's not reclining, that just means she's doing better than everyone else. Her vod views have certainly gone down compared to before.

Gura now has the sub growth Kiara had last year

That's how dead EN is

>>1497808
>Gura barely changed.
How can someone so blatantly lie like this?

Gura's content is pretty stagnant, I'm betting she just doesn't have anything left to do but game and karaoke. Its pretty clear she doesn't want to take singing seriously, but I'm hoping the Noel banter can continue

>>1498224
That is just because people from different timezones stopped catching every live stream of hers. They are watching the VODs later and that is also why those numbers are this high.

>>1498275
It's not dead, it just normalized like literally everyone expected it to 3 months in, it just happened 6 months in.

>>1498298
t. does not even watch her streams

>>1488315
Whatever man, PPT did it after like 4 months and it was fucking great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKJJkuSFfP4

>>1498275
Gura still has double the sub growth compared to Marine who currently has the most growth of all JPs. If EN is dead then JP already turned to dust.

>>1498355
Not in like three weeks anyway. What new and exciting things has she done besides collab with worstID

>>1497121
Based delusion destroyer.

>>1498298
She gets better every karaoke she has. Clearly she practices behind the scenes.

>>1498415
What new and exciting things has Korone done besides playing video games? Or Pekora who has done nothing but playing Dargonquest for months now?

>>1498415
What new and exciting things do 90% of holos do? I don't get where the fuck these ridiculous standards for EN come from while almost everyone is doing nothing else but singing, playing games, or talking to their fans.

>>1498461
True that, but she's not pursuing a musical or idol focus and cover isn't promoting her. Didn't kiara make some songs for herself too, you'd expect Gura to do that too if she had more interest.
>>1498473
Why are you bringing up other chuubas, I only ask for what gura has been doing. Lashing out only makes you look like a rabid fanboy.

>>1498322
Not my point, but ok. I meant her vod views months ago compared to her recent ones. I think the hype has just died down and everything is normalizing.

>>1498545
Answer my question

>>1498570
The hololive and vtuber hype has died down in general, the trend hoppers left and since most people are not quarantined anymore they moved on

>>1498545
You would know that Gura has come up with ideas for 5 original songs and is probably currently focusing on one of them if you ever watched her streams. Sure she might be slower than Kiara, but don't say she isn't interested in producing her own music.

>>1488315
because the managers told her to do it

>>1498545
>you'd expect Gura to do that too if she had more interest.
Once again confirmed to not watch her streams. She said she is currently working on 5 original songs.

>>1498545
Damn anon, you're really making yourself look like an asshole here with how uninformed you are. If you just want to toss out blind hatred I suggest you go full retard and stop pretending like you care about where she ends up.

Once again, chumbuds are the least receptive and most aggresive "fan"base. I don't know why I even try to talk about Gura here.

>>1498625
So we agree that she reclined? Everyone reclined.

>>1498415
>says she's taking singing seriously, now.
>said her dream was to be a professional singer, but she gave up after being rejected a long time ago.
>says she's working on 5 new original songs.
>stood up.
idk, she seems energized this last week. we might be shifting into a new timeline.

Why are we obsessing over numbers? Why can't we just enjoy watching our oshis?

>>1498786
Numberfags enjoy the sense of validation they get from their oshi's numbers.

>>1498736
You can't just come here attacking a fanbase and expect them not to retaliate.

>>1498736
It's what happens when JPfags don't even give HoloEN a shred of respect.

>>1498545
>>1498736
>not pursuing a musical or idol focus
At least check her twitter

>>1498824
They don't deserve any respect

>1498872
(You)

She's actually changed quite a bit since her debut. Her debut is pretty jarring to go back to because of how awkward she is.

>>1498799
Numberfags are the worst

>>1496321
Dude, this is HoloLIVE not HoloVOD, Cumbud can suck dick while trying to increase the number while based Nousagi can play the game with pekora and interact with their oshi

>>1499896
Anon you have to finally accept that compared to Gura all other holos are failures.

>>1496484
>>1489175
>gura and the other 4 all do a collab, splitting the audience 5 ways,
>the japanese stream was for a Saturday, the American stream was a friday.
>Gura's Saturday stream (tonight) was 35k at it's peak

get bent you fuckwads.

>>1497493
>Why do chumbuds pretend vod views are the only metric that matters?
1) the AD revenue from youtube is based on VOD numbers
2) the live viewing numbers are fucked up seriously fucked up in youtube's algorithm and completely untrustworthy.