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>> No.15465676

>>15465631
>Number

>> No.15465706

SUSAN!!!

>> No.15465708
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And people thought council was a failure kek

>> No.15465720
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IT ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN

>> No.15465739

>>15465631
General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.15465767

>>15465708
>Unironically comparing end of year-season (without covid) views to normal views
KYS. I watch primarily HoloEN and I think you're a 'tard.

>> No.15465813
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15465813

>muh imaginary second cull
Cope. It's normal for Niji.

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>>15465767
>without covid
fucking what?

>> No.15465839

>>15465676
We're a reflection of what happens in the numbers anon. Embrace the cull, /become/, BE the cull.

>> No.15465855

>>15465708
retard

>> No.15465856

>>15465767
>Omicron exist
>Without covid
What timeline do you live?

>> No.15465866
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Some numbers from Koyori
Capcha: 2DPPG

>> No.15465871

>>15465813
yes, being outside the medal slots is always normal for Niji.

>> No.15465896

>Not even 700k after 3 days
This song ruined Gura's perfect score and I'm mad
https://youtu.be/uCfjf3rvTJY

>> No.15465902

How's ludwig number. Feel like Jewtuber nerfing Vtuber so their ace purchase don't look like a fucking embarrassment.

>> No.15465913
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15465913

>>15465631
Susan...I kneel

>> No.15465927

Please tell all today's top numbers are miserable and vtubers are slowly dying.

>> No.15465947

>>15465856
>>15465817
I meant lockdowns. I'm out of it and need to go the fuck to sleep. Point stands, numbers appear to be 'normal' for this hour so clearly people were N/A to watch streams earlier. Sucks for Watame, but it is what it is.

>> No.15465953

>>15465927
all today's top numbers are miserable and vtubers are slowly dying.

>> No.15465968

>>15465708
Council wishes they could get half of JP's regular numbers

>> No.15465981

>>15465927
all today's top numbers are miserable and vtubers are slowly dying.

>> No.15465996

>>15465813
Ange zatsus got 9.9k and 11.7k earlier this month

>> No.15466006

>>15465947
Who the fuck was in lockdown 2 months ago?

>> No.15466027

>>15465813
>2 nitpicks
why not show the shit numbers from big niji collab, mito offcollab, yashiro, lize, ibrahim, mysta, furen, patra asmr, hal apex, gatchaman, etc instead?

>> No.15466030

Vtubers will die in 2022 at this pace.

>> No.15466038

>>15465968
Are you blind?
Mumei had more views than them all

>> No.15466058

>>15465927
All today's top numbers are miserable and vtubers are slowly dying

>> No.15466074
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>>15465953
>>15465981
Thanks

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If you're not post numbers then post lewds, unless you numberfags are just normal faggots

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>>15465996

>> No.15466119

>vtuber dying after less than 5 years
I can't believe fad anon was right...

>> No.15466136

Pekora not streaming on christmas eve killed vtubing...

>> No.15466169

>>15466006
My brain is 404'ing.
What I mean to say, is that JP has END OF YEAR PARTY SHIT crimping their numbers, but that HoloEN collab had no debuffs slashing their numbers hard. So, debuffed heavily numbers (by the lack of lockdown Holidays)(JP) vs Normal numbers (EN).
I'll admit I'm phrasing it poorly, but my poor brain, it not be workin' rn.

>> No.15466189

To be fair numbers seems to be back to normal now so i guess youtube had a slight fart last few hours.

>> No.15466205

>>15465896
Her fault for not shilling it.

>> No.15466258

>>15465896
>>15466205
You should check the other two versions of this cover too.

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15466269

At least in these uncertain times for numberfriends one thing is always certain...
Daily Chloe update: Sakamata Chloe now has $259,449 in total superchats and just 19 days after her monetization is the 83rd most superchatted vtuber ever. Today she surpassed
>Ratna Petit
>Ex Albio
>Warabeda Meiji
>Joe Rikiichi
>Yorumi Rena
>Siro

>> No.15466280

How do we save vtubing?

>> No.15466320

What's reclining dog going to get tomorrow? Roughly 21 hours from now.

>> No.15466327

>>15465896
Just further proof that Gura is reclining and that EN is irrelevant

>> No.15466330

>>15466136
Fubuki gold magikarp killed vtubing, she's sucking everyone's numbers

>> No.15466351

>>15465813
>>15466027
It's normal for Holo right now, too. I don't know what happened earlier, but it's just as possible that it was end-of-year effect as YT having some hiccups for just few hours. That's why you guys should have waited for a while first

>> No.15466381

>>15466280
Vtuber face reveal + react to youtube vids and drama of the day.

>> No.15466397

>>15466258
What other versions? The same video but posted on blue archive's channel?

>> No.15466403

>>15466280
Pekora singing Discommunication Alien naked on a desert island

>> No.15466439

>>15466351
Either that or prime jp just massively unperformed.

>> No.15466443

>>15466169
Shouldn't numbers be going UP because of the holidays though? That's what happens during Golden Week after all. It's not like they can travel outside of the country or anything.

>> No.15466455

>>15466351
Nene MC at 3k is not normal

>> No.15466459

>>15466189
>if i spam this as many times as i can maybe it will become true in my head

>> No.15466463 [DELETED] 

>>15466397
Yes, for some god-forsaken reason.

>> No.15466475

>>15466327
Last samurai...I know it's hard to accept that JP's numbers are diving to hell...

>> No.15466502

>>15465927
all today's miserable vtubers are numbers and slowly are dying top.

>> No.15466507

>>15466351
no its not dumbass

>> No.15466539
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ASMR Vtuber's life

>> No.15466554

>>15466351
It's definitely not normal for Holo even now. What the fuck are you watching?

>> No.15466559

>>15466443
Different type of Holidays.
Like, usually around this time you're either with Family, or stuck at Work end-of-year parties from what I hear for JP. Last year, no lockdowns, this year, lockdowns. Same with visiting family.
As I've said, and so have others, best to wait until after early January to start making proclamations of DOOM.

>> No.15466586

>>15465708
Anon, I don't dislike Council, but you are comparing Council's 1st AmongUs collab with HoloX's 2nd AmongUs collab (leaving asides whether there was a cull, some YT bugs, or some kind of end of year effect in place few hours ago). Try comparing both Council and HoloX's 1st AmongUs collab instead

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15466588

>Kiara baking stream 10 days ago, 6.9k
>Kiara baking stream now, 5.6k
With a small drop due to the holidays along with possible variance, it doesn't seem like EN will be that effected.

>> No.15466615

>>15466269
>CCV are temporary
>$C are forever
Where're all the faggot that doubting the orca ? KNEEL

>> No.15466624

>>15466539
Da faq?
Please, explain.

>> No.15466657

>>15466588
There isn't any new Susan cull to be affected with. It's just people (both JOPs and EOPs) being busy since it's the end of the year (finishing works, having parties with friends / colleagues, visiting families, and all that)

>> No.15466671

>>15466588
>Numbers clearly dropped
>No it doesn't count!

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15466684

Chloe really is just a different beast compared to others in JP. She gets so much money by just streaming anything it seems like.

>> No.15466727

>All holos ccv drastically increase out of nowhere around november.
>/#/ is too busy jerking off, to look for the reason of the sudden increase in ccv.
>CCV goes back to normal, and some of /#/'s favorites are obviously reclining.
>Nooooo it's the cull! What's the point of this thread! I don't wanna numberfag anymore!

The absolute state.

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15466731

How do we save Pakora?

>> No.15466776

>>15466615
Vods views and ad revenue are forever too
CCV literally is the only one useless metric

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15466791

>>15466624
do ASMR > got demonetization > deleted videos > repeat LOL.

>> No.15466794

>>15466727
This is not fucking crypto, numbers don't just magically go down once it went up

>> No.15466797

This is ehat happens when towatakes a break, FUCKTOWA

>> No.15466807

Ok /#/ will you finally watch vtubers?

>> No.15466827
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15466827

>>15466731
thank you yet again schizo!

>> No.15466841

>>15466791
Ah.
What a bloody damn annoyance that is huh.

>> No.15466857

>>15466807
no, they are dead

>> No.15466861

>>15466776
>Another retard that doesnt know ad revenue and live stream vod isnt a thing compared to sc
Lurk more

>> No.15466878

>>15466671
A 1k drop is fucking nothing compared to the drops we're seeing with JP right now

>> No.15466901

>>15466731
you circled every undertale stream, perhaps after she finishes undertale.

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15466914

>>15466455
Even putting aside the number of viewers, it's that viewers to likes ratio that makes no fucking sense.

>> No.15466935

>>15466554
What's unsual right now? Taking a brief look at on-going streams compared to Holo's normal performances:
Pekora got 15k and 19k on her previous recent two Undertale streams too, and her current was peaking at 17k (she has been wiping over and over on San for a while).
FBK is getting 18k on a normal playthrough (not a shiny hunting stream), which is higher than most Holo's normal Pokemon playthrough (before elite 4) recently.
Okayu's last MK with Subaru got 15.9k as well (she peaked at around 17k today).
etc.
Some gained viewers, some lost, but none of those were significant enough to assume that there was a cull going on right now

>> No.15466948

Looking at the number of unique chat users on Hololyzer it doesn't seem to have dropped at all compared to the big drop in CCV, I could post some more isolated examples but someone better at data manipulation and with more free time than me should take a look at this because it seems really off

>> No.15466951

>>15466794
After a large increase for no reason, there is a rapid fall. Everything is obvious and logical.
It's time to disable bots

>> No.15466973

>>15466914
It's certainly unusual, I'll give you that. Makes me think people are busy, so they can't sit around for long but are able to leave a like before going back to attending to family members and shit. Which again, is also unusual given how stingy JP tends to be wrt liking shit.

>> No.15466991

Chances Pekora gonna pull a long stream again. She have to beat Sans before New Year or she's going to break her promise
2 days left

>> No.15467024

>>15466280
Sex with Roberu, all of them.

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15467027

>>15466951
>a large increase for no reason
>no reason

>> No.15467034

>>15465708
> miComet hard carry this collab
Imagine being carried by former 2view. Holox is a failure

>> No.15467044

Oh nonono bros, the vtuber fatigue is finally kicking in... it's over...

>> No.15467092

>>15466948
just psot what you got, everybody is lazy

>> No.15467121

>>15466794
Because they don't magically go down. People are busy by the end of the year (trying to finish their jobs as much as possible before New Year, or EoY party with friends / family), so it's reasonable that there will be fewer viewers. Hololive also got a lot of hype in Oct / Nov due to Sport Festival, HoloX debut, Pokemon being a new game, etc. - those hype reasonably would start cooling down over time and stabilize back down. Just look at the charts, this is hardly the first time Holo (or Niji for that matter) got high peak before dropping sharply a month or two afterwards

>> No.15467134

>>15466935
>What's unsual right now?
>Pekora got 15k
Have you been living under a rock in the past one and a half year?
Also take a look at Flare and Nene streams.

>> No.15467138

Posted for the year as not much will change. Surprising stuff.

Top 20+2 Most Viewed Vtuber Channels in 2021(Rounded) [January 4 – Dec 29th Social Blade]
1.[H] hololive – Vtuber Group 300 Million
2.[N] Kuzuha 227 Million
3.[H] Pekora 223 Million
4.[N] Nijisanji Channel 213 Million
5.[H] Marine 200 Million
6.[N] Shibuya Hal 196 Million
7.[H] Gawr Gura 162 Million
8.[H] Suisei 151 Million
9.[N] Kanae 129 Million
10 [H] Fubuki 125 Million
11.[H] Kanata 123 Million
12.[H] Miko 121 Million
13.[Nori] Inuyama Tamaki 109 Million
14.[H] Okayu 102 Million
15.[H] Rushia 97 Million
16.[N] Fuwa 94.71 Million
17.[H] Korone 94.65 Million
18. [H] Subaru 94.28 Million
19.[H] Aqua 93 Million
20. [H] Coco 88 Million
21.[I] Choueki Tarou 88 Million
22.[H] Watame 85 Million

23% Niji
9% Other
68 % Hololive

Takeaways
-Myth outside of Gura is mogged by core JP
-Niji is males only (obvious)
-Kuzuha > Pekora

>> No.15467149

>>15466935
retardchama, nobody is saying the cull happened today, yesterday numbers were also shit. It is assumed it happened sometime after christams. Next time think before you blogpost.

>> No.15467159

>>15467044
>Vods
Didn't drop
>SC
Didn't drop but inclined
>Useless CCV dropped
Who fucking cares?

>> No.15467162

>>15466776
You mean subs is the only useless metric
at least CCV shows you active engagement

>> No.15467204

>>15467138
>has 2 mil more subs than half the people in this list
>only in 7th place
Rumao. If you faggots still say subs still matter after this, you're just blinded by brand loyalty at this point

>> No.15467209

What if Hololive stole all of the normies from Nijisanji and that's why we are witnessing Hololive CCV drop because normies are having family time during holidays.

>> No.15467217

>CCV doesn't matter
Smells like chum. You children were happy to use CCV when Gura does well in that metric like everyone else. Some people forget your retarded gloating last year but I won't.

>> No.15467242

>>15465708
And the debut buff still hasn't even fully worn off yet. Their numbers are just gonna keep dropping.

>> No.15467254

>>15467162
>CCV Algorithm changes every year
>Not useless
Rumao

>> No.15467255

>>15467138
How is Mori not on this list? She has more total views than Gura does.

>> No.15467281

>>15467209
Hololive did get some normalfags. My evidence? The Olympics hurt Holo numbers more than Niji numbers and Hololive did an awful job when head to head with the Olympics while Nijisanji was the same or buffed.

>> No.15467287

>>15467217
Bro it's just shitposting. CCV is a useless metric created by and for numberrots, since a live viewer and a VOD viewer is worth the same. the only thing live viewers offer to the streamer that vod viewers can't are superchats

>> No.15467298

>>15467255
Oh you're right. It was playboard picking up vtuber in the channel tags and she doesn't have them. She would be 183 above gura knocking off watame.

>> No.15467308
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Beta YT feature?

>> No.15467364

>>15467287
CCV shows people are watching for more than 30 seconds and literally everyone but chumkids uses CCV to rate streamers. You fags were happy to use it when it made Gura look good, never forget that.

>> No.15467387

>>15467255
Mori doesn't count as a Vtuber channel for some reason.

>> No.15467410

>>15467308
wtf superchats in comments? Or just an emote?

>> No.15467412

The thread is exactly like I imagined it would be when I saw Watame 3D peak, kek. Big numbers ded

>> No.15467418

>>15467308
its been around for almost a year now

>> No.15467428

>>15467138
>Kuzuha > Pekora
Not that strange, he played a game were heavy tab out happens for the whole year.
But painful numbers for Nijisanji otherwise. You also mislabeled Hal.

>> No.15467430

>>15467308
no you fucking retard cheers have been around for ages

>> No.15467440

>>15467364
What are you retard talking about? Gura is the top 3 CCV in Hololive this year

>> No.15467470

>>15467281
your evidence is called koshien and new wave debut

>> No.15467471

>>15467428
Oh is he indie? Sorry I don't watch apex so I don't really know too much about nijimales.

>> No.15467478

tally?

>> No.15467504

Numberrot is healing. We are combing back to pre-July numbers again. Sub 30ks were pretty normal and above 20ks gets you a medal.

>> No.15467514

>>15467364
Who won the gold yesterday, ENschizo?

>> No.15467517

>>15467428
it's not even that, that win by a small margin can be put on him dropping more meme songs for easy views

>> No.15467535

>>15467387
probably since she is labeled as a youtube music channel.

>> No.15467546

>>15467471
indie, recently started his own company though

>> No.15467560

>>15467440
>has 3.7 mil subs
>has about 2 mil more subs the next highest Vtuber
>speaks a language spoken by 85% of the world
>only 3rd in CCV
RUMAO. THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF THE MEMESHART AND CHUMPEDOS
>

>> No.15467565

>>15467471
Indie for most of the year and Merise now.

>> No.15467567

>>15467418
>>15467430

First time I see it.

>> No.15467570

>>15467470
The only people who would choose those things over the Olympics are nerds and 20 somethings.

>> No.15467587

>>15467134
Anon, have YOU been living under a rock this week? Look at her recent numbers. I know just as well as you do that Pekora performed very well until recently, especially during Oct and November. However, her numbers this week haven't been up to par, which is why Pekoschizo has been around in the last few days. Look at Pekora's numbers since Christmas: Chrismas Singing Relay (this is technically before the Cold-Chicken event, but I will count it too) - 34.3k, Undertale - 15.9k, MC collab with Botan, Towa and Rushia (which should have been a big buff for Pekora) - 24.6k, Tournament annoucement - 27k, Undertale - 19.2k, current Undertale stream - 17.5k. It's hardly strayed far from her recent Undertale numbers (15.9k and 19.2k) and can be chalked to End-of-Year effect as others have explained.
Nene never got high numbers outside of events or collab. For example, her last MC stream (damn, that was 2 months ago, it has been a while), peaked at only 5.4k. Her current stream peaked at 3.7k, a 1.7k drop, but just like Pekora's case, it wasn't big enough to assume that there was any CCV culling going on.

>> No.15467592

>>15467567
Not many people use it is all

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15467597

uimama sub-10k

>> No.15467614

>>15467138

Any other corrections here? I retagged hal and added mori and redid the statistics, is there anyone else who wouldnt be using the vtuber tag you can think of?

>> No.15467619

https://mobile.twitter.com/projectv_4/status/1476223923578900484

How does this girl do it?

>> No.15467621
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Vtubing isn't fucking dying it is going through a necessary correction as it shakes off the less involved and less interested people and solidifies the core fans. At the same time the Vtubing market in the West has dramatically changed since the end of 2021. You have several smaller groups and indies chipping away at Hololive dominance which is to be expected.

A correction now is 100% better then a prolonged bubble inflating because the burst would be much much worse.

>> No.15467648

>>15467597

mama reclining....

>> No.15467662

> Peko chat is slower than usual
> lots of greys compared to her usual full green chat
Peko members don't seem to like her playing this
(more likely just on vacation and thankful that she's getting this over with before her new year streams)

>> No.15467664

https://youtu.be/fuuLvt16aDQ
thoughts numbers wise?

>> No.15467667

>>15467621
*end of 2020

>> No.15467709

>>15467597
Needs rape correction to fix her numbers

>> No.15467723

>>15467664
meh

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15467728

>>15467621
the only correction I know is rape

>> No.15467738

>>15467621
>Hololive dominance
Why do people pretend that Hololive is some unopposable monolith 100 times bigger than everyone? They're just another company that has done well for itself in the past 18 months and has been on top for the past 4-6. You people are retarded.

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>>15467664
If it doesn't get similar numbers to last year all hope is lost

>> No.15467767

>>15467597
What's her normal numbers?

>> No.15467771

>>15467587
>which should have been a big buff for Pekora
nah, a modded version were they only experience rides, there are no risks, no suffering, no pranks, nothing.
Also the mod had also been previously shown by Shiraken collab.
Pekora has good MC numbers, but not for that kind of thing.

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>>15467217
>>15467364
>>15467560
>>15467204

>> No.15467789

>>15467662
Undertale always attracts a bunch of greyname autists who watch for the game not the streamer and are very vocal and irritating in chat

>> No.15467799

>>15467662
She promised to finish the G route this year and are now scrambling to finish it when there's 2 day left in 2021
Sometime she just oddly persistent like that. Just like how she suddenly remember the 10 minute GOI challenge and stream it out of nowhere to try fulfilling that promise

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15467830

>>15467738
Because they are the top group in the West with the largest market share of viewers, subs, and super chats. If anything you are retarded for trying to insinuate they are anything but.

For posting in a number thread you sure can't fucking count.

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>>15467779

>> No.15467842

>>15467738
While you can't deny that Hololive has been almost synonymous with Vtubers for normies for the better half the year, I concur that Hololive has never been a monolith.
Heck, they were never as big or as influential as Kizuna Ai during the true golden era for Vtubers

>> No.15467844

>>15467744
Wait a second, it got 123k? I thought it'd got around 50k or something. Who the fuck told me that NJU won last year? NJU was around 110-120kish iirc.

>> No.15467849

>>15467799
She probably has a to-do list handled by her manager.

>> No.15467856

>>15467149
That makes even less sense. Kanae's current Valorant number is the same as what he has been getting from that game since December. Literally no one in this thread ever suggested that there have been a new cull until today. "Nobody is saying the cull happened today" - if that's the case, why didn't you guys bring it up before?

>> No.15467863

>>15467662
that and many suffered with her yesterday.. megalovania is a great song, but it's getting painful hearing it if I'm honest.

>> No.15467877

Rape Corrected List

Top 20+2 Most Viewed Vtuber Channels in 2021(Rounded) [January 4 – Dec 29th Social Blade]
1.[H] hololive – Vtuber Group 300 Million
2.[N] Kuzuha 227 Million
3.[H] Pekora 223 Million
4.[N] Nijisanji Channel 213 Million
5.[H] Marine 200 Million
6.[Merise] Shibuya Hal 196 Million
7.[H] Mori Calliope 183 million
8.[H] Gawr Gura 162 Million
9.[H] Suisei 151 Million
10.[N] Kanae 129 Million
11 [H] Fubuki 125 Million
12.[H] Kanata 123 Million
13.[H] Miko 121 Million
14.[Nori] Inuyama Tamaki 109 Million
15.[H] Okayu 102 Million
16.[H] Rushia 97 Million
17.[N] Fuwa 94.71 Million
18.[H] Korone 94.65 Million
19. [H] Subaru 94.28 Million
20.[H] Aqua 93 Million
21. [H] Coco 88 Million
22.[I] Choueki Tarou 88 Million

18% Niji
13% Other
68 % Hololive

Takeaways
-English Vtubing might as well be only Gura and Mori
-Niji is males only (obvious)
-Kuzuha > Pekora

2022 Predictions
-Nijimales recline to middle of the pack
-Some of HoloX mog the older jps
-Recline of Mori/Gura to middle of the pack
-Overall similar or less views for 2022

>> No.15467882
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15467882

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>28,259: Watame (Hololive)
>26,512: Rushia (Hololive)
>22,438: Fubuki (Hololive)
>19,524: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>17,799: Okayu (Hololive)
>17,524: Pekora (Hololive)
>17,508: Gawr Gura (Hololive)
>16,068: Miko (Hololive)
>14,767: Laplus (Hololive)
>14,700: Suisei (Hololive)
>12,627: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,985: Gatchaman (Indie)
>11,793: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,693: Subaru (Hololive)
>11,279: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,519: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,164: Mito (Nijisanji)
>10,055: Chloe (Hololive)

>> No.15467889

>>15467767
easy 12k+ for the most basic shit

>> No.15467894

>>15467738
Because they are. Hololive is synonymous with Vtubing since late 2020.

>> No.15467905

>>15467849
It take her a lot of time to start doing anything but I'm pretty sure once she started she will try to finish it
It's one of the thing I like about her

>> No.15467913

>>15467844
Nah, Niji's NY was a few thousands higher. You are likely misremembering it. I will dig through the archive for a concrete number later

>> No.15467917

>>15467877
kanata is higher than i thought

>> No.15467929
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>>15467833

>> No.15467930
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>>15467882
It's all over

>> No.15467933

>>15467844
>believing what random anons say
>not grudge posting
ngmi

>> No.15467940

good thing we don't get culled her-

>> No.15467947

>>15467877
You should probably remove Gura from the list entirely to account for he being boosted primarily by bots

>> No.15467957

>>15467842
>Heck, they were never as big or as influential as Kizuna Ai during the true golden era for Vtubers
anon, literally every game that hololive plays the entire vtubing sphere goes into clone overdrive mode. Henry stickmin was an obscure remake known to only boomers until gura and Pekora played it and suddenly it became synonymous with vtubers.

>> No.15467959

>>15467882
not even a single 30k, fucking disgusting

>> No.15467966

>>15467947
If we accounted for that niji wouldn't even be on the list.

>> No.15467969

>>15467882
What is the logic behind having the biggest events on Niji main? Why not let the talents have them?

>> No.15467970

>>15467882
28k Watame 3D and day's gold. What a bad season

>> No.15467972

>>15467856
>you guys
read the past threads retard, or better yet, go back

>> No.15467975

>>15467849
Pekora manager was described by other Holos to be "like a mother" to all of them, not just Pekora
That sound like something she would do

>> No.15467976

>>15467882
Slow day

>> No.15467983

>>15467882
Hololive 15
Nijisanji 2
Indies 1

9 of the top 10 for hololive. If you ignore the numbers and look only at the ranking everything is in normal order.

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>>15467947
>>15467966

>> No.15467996

Since people are talking about that again. I thought it would be interesting to remind people that the Hololive audition form literally asks you for your highest CCV as a streamer.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdSqK-Dn7OTEHJNETPI_ikaYUyvLDdwZ2MkkTdffI_Yvp6WLQ/viewform

>> No.15468003

>>15467877
Tamaki reclined less than I thought, I guess even getting married doesnt effect the males

>> No.15468027

>>15467877
Mori and Gura have tons of unarchived karaokes. Shame EN songs are a bitch to work with.

>> No.15468050

>>15468027
Yeah even accounting for that though its probably not moving the needle on them too much. Maybe mori moves up a spot but thats it.

>> No.15468064 [DELETED] 

>>15467996
>I thought it would be interesting to remind people that the Hololive audition form literally asks you for your highest CCV as a streamer.
It must be EN scouting. HoloJP scouting is good so they wouldn't do shit like that. They wouldn't have picked sh*chimu and l*monleaf who only got in because of numbers.

>> No.15468067

>>15467957
Pikamee played it first!
But you are right that no other vtubers has touched the game until Gura+Pekora played it.

>> No.15468073

>>15467877
>Moriand Gura reclined to the middle of the pack
You mean recline into irrelevance rumao

>> No.15468076
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15468076

>>15467882
* DECEMBER GOLD SO FAR *

1) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Archived Karaoke
2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The Radio Station
3) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 52,239 - Announcement
4) Shion (Hololive) - 93,815 - Outfit Reveal
5) Chloe (Hololive) - 63,541 - Unarchived Karaoke
6) Ayame (Hololive) - 59,998 - Return Stream
7) Mio (Hololive) - 54,729 - Anniversary Totsu
8) Shion (Hololive) - 89,072 - Birthday 3D
9) Calli (Hololive) - 89,923 - Outfit Reveal
10) Toya (Nijisanji) - 89,652 - Niji Mario Kart Lottery&Rules
11) Ame (Hololive) - 74,496 - Outfit Reveal
12) Gura (Hololive) - 112,093 - Outfit Reveal
13) Ayame (Hololive) - 99,651 - Birthday 3D
14) Chloe (Hololive) - 31,961 - Evil God Korone
15) Pekora (Hololive) - 69,956 - Announcement
16) Fubuki (Hololive) - 42,374 - Shiny Hunt
17) Haruka (Nijisanji) - 25,019 - 3D debut
18) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 69,242 - Mario Kart Tournament
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 187,336 - Outfit reveal
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,691 - Pokemon
21) Toya (Nijisanji) - 78,645 - Niji Mario Kart Finals Lottery
22) Koyori (Hololive) - 58,518 - Totsu
23) Fubuki (Hololive) - 38,611 - Shiny Hunt
24) Marine (Hololive) - 71,316 - HoloX Confessions
25) Suisei (Hololive) - 49,543 - Christmas Relay Karaoke
26) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 130,092 - Mario Kart Tournament Finals
27) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 65,631 - 3D stream
28) Gura (Hololive) - 32,247 - Unarchived karaoke
29) Watame (Hololive) - 28,259 - Anniversary 3D Live

Monthly golds (so far)

Per company
>23x: Hololive:
>6x: Nijisanji

Per Streamer
>4x: Chloe
>3x: Pekora
>2x: Shion, Fubuki, Gura, Ayame
>2x: Toya, Nijisanji
>1x: Mio, Ame, Calli, Hololive ch, Suisei, Marine, Watame, Koyori
>1x: Haruka, Kuzuha

>> No.15468086

>>15467882
sad numbers for everyone, but still holo-dominated

>> No.15468090
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>>15468064

>> No.15468111

>>15467996
they don't want no 2views

>> No.15468122

>>15467966
>Niji
>using bots
Rumao, whatever makes you sleep better at night faggot

>> No.15468131

>>15467587
Since you seems so well versed with numbers you should also know Pekora never in her life has seen such a good ccv to likes ratio. Never ever. Trying to ballpark it, this stream should have peaked at 30k minimum.
Same thing going on with Flare and Nene >>15466914
Streams in the past week have been culled too, it's not rocket science.

>> No.15468140 [DELETED] 

>>15468064
sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt
s*nzawa only got in because of numbers, she was a terrible streamer

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>>15468073

>> No.15468157

>>15468067
>Pikamee played it first!
kek, Dolly Parton sang "I Will Always Love You" first but the only version people remember is Whitney Houston

>> No.15468164

>>15468076
>6x: Nijisanji
>4x: Chloe
>3x: Pekora
Looks like Nijisanji finally won a month. It's been a while.

>> No.15468176

>>15467882
watamewinslol

>> No.15468180

>>15468073
By that logic what does that make all the vtubers below them? Are Suisei, Kanae, Fubuki, Miko, Rushia, Korone, Subaru etc irrelevant?

>> No.15468184

>>15467913
>>15467933
Nah honestly though, I wasn't a numberfag last year nor did I watch last year's event so I didn't know what to expect. I assume Holo's event would underperformed but it still got 123k and averages 80k for 7 hours. What I'm most surprised is the NJU 2020 vod that has 3.7M for less than 2 hours while Holo's event is at 2.5M with 7 hours. Was NJU loopable or something? Good in a sense?

From what I can see, last year NJU had an all star cast and was in 3D while Holo was in 2D. I hoped to see Holo doing 3D this year.

>> No.15468202

>>15468176
Watame - Gold
Leech - Silver

>> No.15468209
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>>15468180

>> No.15468222

>>15468140
>she was a terrible streamer
Being a good streamer is not and never was a requirement to join Hololive. IIRC Subaru didn't even have any streaming experience

AFAIK Hololive is of the "it can't be taught, they'll learn on the field by doing" school of professional thought, similar to apprenticeship professions

>> No.15468235

>>15467882
Mito just barely scrapped by to get 10k on a fucking collab. If not for that then Nijisanjis Noon show would be the only thing above 10k for them...

>> No.15468259

>>15467996
Is this needed? I mean, they picked Coco and Subaru without those kind of requirements. Some 2views can be better than any top streamers/creators.

>> No.15468264

>>15467364
CCV only shows a fraction of the audience. Not everyone lives in the same timezone, nor everyone has time to check a stream live

>> No.15468285

>>15468180
If any of them spoke English and had their sub numbers, Gura and Mori wouldn't even be on this list.
The fact that they have 2 mil less subs than them and speak a language only a small island country understands yet still mogs the shit out of "the biggest EN Vtubers" says a lot about the quality of their content

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>>15468285

>> No.15468307

>>15467996
To get a feel for how easy or difficult it would be for you to make the transition to streaming for thousands of people. Also just to see how successful you were in general, although they can also tell that by just looking at your channel.

Mori- none?
Ina- 200-ish?
Gura 1k or so
Kiara 300?
Ame- 800
IRyS- few hundred?
Mumei- few hundred
Kronii- few hundred
Bae- 300 or so for her debut?
Sana- none
Faun- 500?

I feel like Gura and Ame were the only ones remotely ready to handle it based on their past experience and even then it was still orders of magnitude bigger than anything they were used to.

>> No.15468329

>>15468050
That's true. I can see Mori reclining hard unless she releases a new hit song like RIP.

>> No.15468338

>>15468264
Someone watching 30 seconds is worth as much as someone watching the entire video.

>> No.15468342

>>15467996
>Hololive audition form literally asks you for your highest CCV as a streamer.
Knowing what I know about my own professional I wouldn't put past Hololive to ask that to filter out people with already established streaming careers.

My company (and field in general) filters out people that are already "overqualified" for the entry level positions because training a person to the position is a long term commitment and having someone to join only to find out they can do massively better on their own (making their own competing company) or with a bigger competitor of outs is catastrophic

>> No.15468368
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>>15468338

>> No.15468409

>>15468338
it averages out retardchama, for every x 30 second watcher there is some number of full vod watchers

>> No.15468423

>>15468295
Stop replying to ENschizo, anon
You're better than that

>> No.15468453

>>15467882
>>15468076

Watame not only wanted to win gold, she wanted to also use her watamage powers to nerf everyone

>> No.15468472

>>15468338
Actually views don’t pay at all. It’s us usually ad impressions that actually get paid. Views correlate of course but in theory you could have thousands of ad impressions with 0 views.

>> No.15468473

>>15468342
explain Myth

>> No.15468493
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100k fewer views, same number of likes?

>> No.15468503

>>15468342
Given all the 2views cover hired, I believe that's probably true

>> No.15468540

>>15468473
>Myth
>overqualified
You need to be at least 18 before coming into this site faggot.

>> No.15468541

>>15468472
Live or not you still get those ads at the start. CCV might be better since it filters those adblock users.

>> No.15468550

>>15468503
people higher than 2views won't apply to hololive though, or rather they won't get any advantage from doing so

>> No.15468580

>>15468338
30s is enough to get an ad

>> No.15468586

>>15468259
It asks you for your highest. It doesn't say that it's one of the core criteria for picking you, probably just another metric to be considered in the who puzzle.

>> No.15468590
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OH NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHA
>THEY'RE THE FUCKING MIRROR UNIVERSE FOR THIS THREAD
http://virtualyoutuber-matome.blog.jp/archives/13308215.html#more

(Someone help me fix my half N9999 man half machine translation if you figure out I fucked up)

>> No.15468599

>>15468342
That doesn't really apply to Hololive. It's just that people who are already doing well on their own don't want to give Cover 1/3rd of their income across the board. In 2020 someone like Haruka Karibu would have applied to Hololive, today not so much. Same with Snuffy, Saruei ect. If you can get over say, 2k regularly, and keep all your money, there's no reason to. It's like if you run a successful restaurant you're not jump out of it and go franchise a McDonalds.

>> No.15468605

>>15465708
>2 months ago

>> No.15468614

>>15468590
kek

>> No.15468620

>>15468493
wait at least a day to check the vod views, they are still processing

>> No.15468621

>>15468540
almost all of them have established internet presence before they join hololive. the only outlier was Ame.

>> No.15468625

>>15468493
Three months in distance, anon.
Unless you show that likes continue scaling up with time like VOD views do (instead of being given mostly on the first few days) this shows nothing of value

>> No.15468641

>>15468064
Well you are right that the old JP audition and the new updated JP Holostar audition doesn't have that. They have a lot less questions in general.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScMqA2waFXgE868VpM8keCdWaKjlOWsD3TgD2hsSqev6bE-Zw/viewform
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScZYylCHqbgPuobhze4F-JjDIqzzpEot7ajp3oO6WzHA7nTNw/viewform

>> No.15468643

>>15468493
Check what the number for the top one is in 3 months. Almost certainly will have more likes and views.

>> No.15468650 [DELETED] 

>Pakora posting
>Hoshikawa roommate photos hit the archive
>Watame BF posting
>open discussion of AZKi's roommate
>Laplus' patreon is linked openly
>Kuroa's covers get linked with no one batting an eye
>Iroha's PL is openly discussed
All okay
>one mention of s*nzawa
[Deleted]

Way to do your job you fat fuck hot pocket eating waste of space. I don't mind how draconian you are if you're consistent with it. How am I supposed to know what is and isn't okay with this precedent?

>> No.15468667

>>15468621
What the fuck are you talking about, Ame has the most established internet presence before joining up with hololive.

>> No.15468689

>>15468473
>>15468540
Myth was claimed to be overqualified by Coco. This was clearly relative to people like Mori and Ina, who are just under industry pros when it comes to their particular trades, and maybe Gura if you are willing to look at her ability to make content viral a qualification.

Judging by Cover's hiring practices, I wouldn't be surprised if that other anon is right in that Cover filters out people that are too high profile for them to handle, since those people tend to be very hard to control/manage and could turn very demanding about things for no reason.

>> No.15468690

>>15468590
I come here to numberfag and don't shit up other threads, over there they just do it in matome comments. Fucking filthy animals.

>> No.15468700

>>15468493
YOUTUUUUBBBBBEEEEEEEEEE!

>> No.15468701

EN schizo going hard, what happened?

>> No.15468721
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>>15468650

>> No.15468732

>>15468690
Anon, matome comments *IS* their version of this thread.
Not discussing the article or even reading it (nor glancing at its general direction) and jumping streaight into the comments section to numberfag is a recurring meme of theirs

>> No.15468737

>>15468590
>nijigrannies
my fucking sides

>> No.15468738 [DELETED] 

>>15468650
JP roommate posting is fine, EN roommate posting is a bannable offense, this is how moderation here has always been

>> No.15468758

>>15465631
this ugly CUNT needs to lose her job

>> No.15468762

>>15468701
JP is declining to hell
pls understand

>> No.15468777 [DELETED] 

>>15468650
get fucked doxxnigger

>> No.15468785

>>15468732
It's a truly bizarre thing to witness firsthand.

>> No.15468810

>>15465913
there has never been a good post using this image

>> No.15468813

>>15468689
>overqualified according to Coco
>can't even beat JP CCV, SC and VOD
Rumao

>> No.15468816 [DELETED] 

>>15468650
Jannies only cares about HoloEN. Or I have to make you remember when someone did a post about Niji-Roberu-Polka rm and an anon had to post a dox of EVERY holomember to get it deleted?

>> No.15468815 [DELETED] 

>>15468777
nta but learn the definition of doxx

>> No.15468841 [DELETED] 

>>15468650
Janny is EOP cumbud Please Andastad

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>>15468813

>> No.15468862

>>15468667
What? Ame is 2view twitch streamer. No where near as established as the other Myth

>> No.15468864

>>15468620
>>15468625
Bear in mind the older one had 41k CCV vs supposedly 28k, even if it didn't gain a single like in 3 months it's still a suspicious ratio

>> No.15468917

>>15468862
Two of myth barely had any internet presence to speak of, and of the other three Ame was the only one who actually streamed as her primary content

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>>15467882
bronze medal for silver fox

>> No.15468935 [DELETED] 

>>15467877
Do you the 2019 most viewed lis?

>> No.15468962 [DELETED] 

>>15468816
Lmao that was me, only worthwile ban I've ever had on this site, also it took them an hour to even get round to deleting it

>> No.15468978 [DELETED] 

>>15468816
i remember a thread about Suisei around the time of the Roberu collab. Someone posted something that could've been an image of her face and her sister. The post was deleted even from the archives.
so, someone cares a little bit at least

>> No.15469013

>>15468864
its more likely that the suspicious part about it is that it will end up with close likes and vod views despite the ccv being so much lower. You got a point, but it might not be the likes

>> No.15469021 [DELETED] 

>>15468738
>>15468650
Nah, you guys are either dumb or newfags if you think there is any pattern for moderation in this thread, board or site.

Here is how it is since the good old days when you could "remember when /b/ was good".

>there are no rules
>there are no rules for mods too so enjoy your ban

That's it. Nominally there may be rules but there is no possible enforcement for every rule breaking comment, mostly because site staff **is absolutely not** part of the userbase so they don't really read of frequent threads for the most part.

I bet they have jannies scouring the threads when comments get a lot of reports, or when lots of comments get reports, looking for infractions to enforce whatever rules they can figure out as being broken.
Things like notable roomate names that generated controversy in the past must be in a "blacklist" of *must enforce* while things that are too "ingroup knowledge" skirt the rules

>> No.15469056

Kiara just said there will be a special announcement at the end of the Karaoke relay AkA on Gura's turn, and it won't be merch.
Rrats and numbers?

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>>15468962
You were a hero that day anon

>> No.15469068

>>15468590
what do they use 串 ?

>> No.15469080

>>15469056
Date for 3D

>> No.15469129

>>15469056
Gura mentioned it during her minecraft stream too, I think it's something specific to Gura because it wouldn't make sense to make a group announcement on a solo stream, so most likely MV for reflect

>> No.15469136

>>15469056
3D debut

>> No.15469140 [DELETED] 

>>15469021
This, Ive got got for much less

>> No.15469141 [DELETED] 

>>15468978
At least there is a jannie doing it correctly, I'm tired of having schizos on my oshi's threads while the ones in EN gets instabanned

>> No.15469154

>>15468590
>NijiGrannies
holy fucking kek

Please tell me whether you know if the "ba" にじバ actually refers to "baachan" or if it's a shorthand bastardization of "virtual youtuber".

>> No.15469158

>>15469056
Reflect MV

>> No.15469169

>>15469056
Omega debut on the 31st

>> No.15469184

>>15469068
>串
One 串 = 10k. Some anon explained it, see
>>13686813 (or do your archive reps to find it if it already get pruned).

Short summary: Lize and some mate streamed a reaction to some chinese bbq skewer show and got 10k and it stuck as a sort of unit for them.

>> No.15469186

>>15466327
kek we shall see that in the GuraXMori full animated song

>> No.15469194

>>15469080
>>15469136
Japan is still closed and EU/US covid cases are in a rampage, is pretty unlikely

>> No.15469201

>>15469129
Then why did Kiara mention it?
It's not her business

>> No.15469218

>>15469056
not 3D, seems unlikely to have a date since japan still has full travel restrictions. Im thinking outfits for irys+council, since holox is getting theirs. Obviously not on the same date though.

>> No.15469225

>>15469129
>>15469158
Kiara said is regarding all of EN
Also Gura joined to the line up last minute, Ame was supposed to be the last one thus the one to give the announcement.

>> No.15469227

>>15469056
Another original song or just more Walfie 3D stuff on VR.
>>15469080
>>15469136
With Omicron? Even March is too soon to Japan to open.

>> No.15469248 [DELETED] 

>>15469021
Yeah across my lifetime usage of the site almost all bans were arbitrary and something i posted the jannie didn't like next to something else rule breaking the jannie liked

>> No.15469259

>>15467664
Last year it got 80k - 100k. This time i think 60k - 80k.

>> No.15469274

>>15469201
Rumao, it's Kiara. Everything becomes her business if she thinks it'll help her numbers

>> No.15469280

>>15469154
I'm translating "にじバァ" (nijibaa) as in short for "Obaasan". Maybe I fucked up but I'm sure they're using it as some sort of derrogative similar to "nijicoep", in the context of bringing up quality when the subject is numbers

>> No.15469293
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>>15469201
because she's Kiara

>>15469194
It could be that cover finally accepted that Japan is never going to open up and finally let them do it with a home studio.

>> No.15469301

>>15469186
>Releases song titled "Q" on January

Rrat?

>> No.15469319

>>15469201
She just said is abput all EN
Childfuckers just need to let it go, Gura is too lazy to even hire people who will do it for free.

>> No.15469360

>>15469301
???

>> No.15469366

>>15469293
We are meming the black ships now.

>> No.15469370

>>15469227
It's kind of stupid because Omicorn is basically endemic in every part of the world. They keep doing these meaningless travel bans to make it look like they're doing something, or the disease is only because of outsiders, but it's utterly pointless due to the high transmissibility of all forms of covid. It only makes sense if you're gonna do a complete draconian lockdown like New Zealand which Japan has never come close to even attempting.

>> No.15469390

>>15469274
>>15469293
Gura joined to the line up last minute
Ame was supposed to be the one to give the announcement.

>> No.15469404

>>15469184
thanks m8

>> No.15469443

>deleted
lmao

>> No.15469485
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>>15469370
>They keep doing these meaningless travel bans
kek, Austria just had a three weeks lockdown mate.
If you think paying lip service by barring foreigners from pouring in I can only imagine what you would think about that.

Even if Japan was open Kiara wouldn't be able to travel, mostly because she wouldn't be able to leave her fucking home without a permit from the government and even if she could she wouldn't be allowed to fly out.

Japan is the smartest of the civilized countries: instead of paying lip service by locking their locals in their homes they're just lock the filthy gaijin out, pretend that serves to a purpose and carry on

>> No.15469504

>>15469280
So this is recurring then? Like how we use Nijisisters (which also seems to come from a transaltion)?

>> No.15469525

>Doxx nigger got ban again
Rumao Rumao

>> No.15469533

>>15469504
Nijisisters comes from /vt/sisters, aka that meme that everyone on this board is a gossiping teenage girl

>> No.15469540
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15469540

this one is for you, I know that you're reading this

>> No.15469544

>>15468599
You'd be severely limited. Sure, you keep all the money, but it ain't useful. By joining Hololive, not only you're earning A large pile of money but you're also earning connections. You can talk/know artists, MV makers, song producers etc and that's worth a lot more for your next job after you quit Vtubing. I won't expect vtubers now to keep streaming in 3 years let alone 5. There's a lot of things out there than streaming 24/7. You'll retire faster joining Hololive only if you worked that hard for the first year and not be lazy asses like council.

>> No.15469547

>>15469485
>Japan is the smartest of the civilized countries
More like lucky they are a tiny island with a long history of barring foreigners from entering with the added benefit of not being European or Australians.

>> No.15469566

>>15469485
Kiara had to get re-vaccinated (Pfizer) because Japan doesn’t recognize the J&J vaccine as acceptable.

>> No.15469567

test

>> No.15469574

>>15469370
pretty sure those bans are more politically motivated, than scientifically motivated now.

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>>15469533
>Nijisisters comes from /vt/sisters, aka that meme that everyone on this board is a gossiping teenage girl

>> No.15469591

3k festival

>> No.15469617

>>15467996
That why new members were so shit lately. Rather bring something new to the table they choose the one had numbers.

>> No.15469618

>>15469584
You mean you're not? *GASP*

>> No.15469619

>>15469591
That's actually an incline
>karaoke
well, it could incline to her usual 5k

>> No.15469631

>>15468599
This is extremely retarded take, considering the wast majority of money come from sponsorships, and you ain't landing many of them if you're a 2k ccv noname. Also, merch, and yes, ad revenue from views also matters.

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>>15469617

>> No.15469646

>>15469485
>Japan is the smartest of the civilized countries
Lmao no, they never did anything meaningful in their history, they are nothing compared to the European civilizations which formed the world we know nowadays

>> No.15469657

>>15469617
This! That's why they chose Bael-

>> No.15469678

>>15469485
>Japan is the smartest of the civilized countries
Honestly, if I was president of the US, I'd have done the same... or at the very least cut a deal with the NAFTA kids to block travel in from anywhere else other than them.

>> No.15469691

>>15469591
Lower than her usual utawakus but not a massive drop

>> No.15469708

>>15468111
and yet they still hired some.

>> No.15469710

>>15469631
Do Vshojo even get that many sponsors?
It looks like most of the time they’re just doing twitch bounties.
I’m only aware of Nyanners getting a few offers.

>> No.15469736

>>15469646
I mean they did kill a bunch of Chinese that one time. Also they decided to surrender to the US and preserve their culture instead of getting the UN LOL WE'LL SPLIT THE COUNTRY IN TWO WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG treatment the UN was so fond of at the time. Which in turn was also the first time the US told the USSR to go fuck themselves we love these weird Nips and their adorable tiny women.

>> No.15469773

>>15469678
The US is already infested with every kind of foreigners and they can't control even the Mexicans entering to their country illegally...

>> No.15469794

>big announcement at the end of HoloEN NY relay
>its not merch/cover song
>source: Kiara
Imagine if Myth 3D Debuts when YT ccv/audience are royally fucked
/vt/ would probably be filled with bait threads to the brim and probably get >400% board activity again

>> No.15469803

>>15469710
The problem with VShojo is that their content is advertiser poison. So unless the sponsor of the "inclusive" variety and not in name only, then you will see people often looking past them.

>> No.15469804

HoloMyth has seemed to be in a better mood as of late. I suspect 3D debuts are on the horizon. Now that we think there may be a new cull is it possible that Gura's won't reach 100k?

>> No.15469834

is this what the withdrawal syndromes of numberrot feel like

i'm not fond of them

>> No.15469846

>>15469710
Anon, they have someone who literally does porn as a vtuber on their roster and as one of their founding members (Project Melody). That's gonna be a big 'hell no' for a lot of advertisers.

>> No.15469850

>>15469794
Kiara is graduating?

>> No.15469879

>>15469804
she already passed 100 on an outfit reveal 3d would beat a cull easily.

>> No.15469892

>>15469804
I would kneel if Cover somehow managed to convince the Japanese government to let them in.

>> No.15469902

>>15469736
I mean, I don't hate Japan or anything, but I don't understand from where their uppity comes from

>> No.15469922

>>15469892
3D at home. Cover finally yield. It's a shame that Gura, Kiara, Ina, and AMe won't be in lives but they never wanted to be.

>> No.15469931

>>15458638
who cares?

>> No.15469939

>>15469803
Wouldn’t that apply to NijiEN males too?
They seem very heavily into the same humor as Vshojo.

>> No.15469964
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Which one of you faggots did this?

>> No.15469969
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>>15469922

>> No.15469986

>>15469922
Gura's whole reason to be on Hololive was the 3D lives and Ame too. Kiara also had something with her 3D and only Ina is the only one who doesn't care about it because is more work for her.

>> No.15469989

>>15469964
1. Who?
2. What kind of shitty phone you have to have a SC with that resolution?

>> No.15470010

>>15469986
Ame can't sing for shit and mcdonald's shark would cough a lung out if she had to dance for more than 30 seconds.

>> No.15470053

>>15469922
Ina and Gura are gonna appear as guest in Aqua concert.

>> No.15470058

>>15470010
gura did pretty well on Ring Fit shit before she stopped due to that one clip.
noel also cant sing for shit

>> No.15470088

>>15469710
I think Melody is the problem, some people will overlook it but a lot of companies won't. And she's not gonna stop because she makes so much money doing her porn gig. They also can't remove her since she's more or less the founding member, and everyone else leaving to make their own company would cause so much drama it wouldn't be worth it. So they're just kind of stuck where they are.

>> No.15470109

>>15470058
That was a while ago and we have only seen her health get worse.
>>15470053
In 2D form I thought,

>> No.15470131

>>15469986
>ame&gura
Ogey

>> No.15470204

Speaking of vshojo where are their new members anyways?

>> No.15470225

>>15469370
yeah, but sakoku at least makes some sense, compared to some of the other measures. (like closing establishments at night, for instance.)

>> No.15470262

>>15469225
>>15469319
All EN? Can't be 3D then because that's only got announced for Myth.

>> No.15470274

>>15470204
shitposting on /vt/

>> No.15470295

>>15469794
Could it be an official announcement of the HoloEN recruitment? Has there been an official post about that?

>>15469939
Yes, but they also have the Japanese company buff, which basically connects them to other Japanese companies, so if they don't get ads from the west, they can cut a deal with companies of the east, since Japanese are less averse to crass humor in general, unless they break some of THEIR social rules.

>> No.15470319

>>15470204
Doxxed and swatted

>> No.15470329

>>15470274
I'm sorry, but I can't help myself.

>> No.15470328

>>15470319
kek

>> No.15470350

>>15470131
You seem awfully certain in your beliefs considering that you don't watch streams

>> No.15470363
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>>15469902
Weaboos. When in doubt blame weaboos who think Japanese swords are lightsabers.

>> No.15470380

>>15470319
lel, I do wonder how that entire shitfest affected their recruitment though. We haven't heard much from them after the initial audition news, is it still open?

>> No.15470421

>>15465896
>he thinks she cares about numbers

>> No.15470434

>>15470295
I don't think HoloEN needs to put an annocement for it. Everyone can look up to it and the word of mouth on /vt/ alone is enough for indies to know.
At best I expect some original songs including all of HoloEN like they did at the start of the year with HoloJP.

>> No.15470465

ngl even if it is a meme the thought of a lonely Japanese salaryman sadly eating cold chicken on Christmas day does break my heart. I wish vtubers had more respect for their isolated and friendless viewers who use them as a substitute for human interaction.

>> No.15470489

>>15470434
I’m expecting one of the following: Ochame Kinou cover, Omega debut, Some big sponsorship, Reflect MV

>> No.15470490

>>15470421
Gura probably doesn't care about the shill song too much, I could understand.
The fact that she's been SITTING on the Reflect MV indicates to me that she really cares about that though, and is going to maximize numberfagging THAT as much as she can.

>> No.15470515

>>15470465
I think you posted in the wrong tab

>> No.15470525

>>15470363
The triple folded steel makes them better than any other swords

>> No.15470547

>>15470380
I guarantee you it definitely did, especially since it revealed that vshojo's backend can be charitably described as incompetent and ubcharitably described as non existant.
On top of which I still don't understand why vshojo is doing "auditions", they are basically an extended friend group and going corporate like this would just dilute their brand.

>> No.15470562

>>15470525
Yeah that's why Samurai needed to carry like 6 swords into battle and sharpen them after every 100 swings.

>> No.15470573

>>15470262
Honestly their 3D modelers haven't had shit to do since Gen 5. ID 1 is already done. EN1 is already done. Wouldn't be surprised if they just went ahead and knocked out ID2, IRyS, and Council instead of just sitting on their hands or making props for concerts.

>> No.15470589

>>15470525
Triple fold my fist to your face

>> No.15470592

>>15470489
>Omega debut
I'd love to see them do this just because I know how not liked he is among myth.

>> No.15470607

>>15470573
>Honestly their 3D modelers haven't had shit to do since Gen 5
Holostars?

>> No.15470611

>>15470562
Anon, they only sharpened them so that they could cut the molecules of spirits instead of tearing them. We all KNOW this, newfag.

>> No.15470632

>>15470573
They have actually been overhauling their home3d system, the results of which you could see in the recent streams. They've gotten to the point where one could say that their home 3d is actually far better than most of their rigging.

>> No.15470639

>>15470611
It’s easier to infuse your chakra into a sharp blade.

>> No.15470640

>>15470592
I like the dude. His tweeting style make me laugh and if he ended up being a monotone streamer, that is a sub and member for me

>> No.15470657

>>15470592
Sometimes I wonder how many people genuinely believe everything they read on /vt/

>> No.15470664

>>15470562
Swords were never the primary weapon of samurai. It's a sidearm. You would never swing a sword that many times or go through 6 of them.

>> No.15470667

>>15470562
I think that's a little too hard on degozaru

>> No.15470682

>>15470573
Wonder when gen 6 will get theirs, june is usually a great month for numbers so I'd go for around then

>> No.15470701

>>15470607
I forgot those existed but that's true I guess. Aren't they all done with them now?

>> No.15470733

>>15470547
if they keep recruitment restricted to twitch, I'm looking forward their version of the Meiro incident

>> No.15470745

>>15470701
Yeah. They just had a concert where they sold out tickets and merch (supposedly).

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>>15470664
Anyways swords in Europe weren't being used like everyone thinks, they used it as blunt weapons

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>>15470525
>>15470562
>>15470589
>>15470611
>>15470639
>>15470664
>>15470667
I knew I could out you all with the classic sword bait. Go on you weaboos get out of here! No one cares about your nip streamers!

>> No.15470794

>>15470573
They had a ton of Holostar stuff to work on.
We also got all the 3D christmas outfits even if they're just a bunch of lazy copy paste with some edits.
3D Holos got new costumes and there were new special idol outfits like Watame.

>> No.15470821

>>15470794
Plus they're certainly working on Flare new model 3D

>> No.15470842

>>15470573
They’re doing Gen 6 3D models so they can surprise everyone by announcing their participation in Holofes 3

>> No.15470848

>>15470794
Gen 5 don't have idol outfits yet. I think that should be first. We know the myth models are done so that would be the next thing to work on. After that is ID2, then IRyS, then Council, then Gen 6. It's more likely that ID2 and Council will be ignored though.

>> No.15470850

Not only did Susan cull CCV, she also culled the IQ of some of the schizos here apparently.

>> No.15470866

>>15470842
This board will surely love it and have a great time with it.

>> No.15470867

>>15470777
Well, yes. What the hell is a sharp blade going to fucking do against full plate armor? Even the joints are going to have chain-mail or hardened leather specifically to reduce the damage you could do on those obvious weak-points.
A crushing blow though? Yea, that's gonna disorient an opponent and then you could slide a knife into an unarmored gap and kill the bloke (or just ransom them off since that tended to make more sense).

>> No.15470870

>>15470088
Live by the coomer bait die by the coomer bait. It gets a lot of views and attention but it also sets a ceiling on what you can do.

>> No.15470882

>>15470777
Not everyone in Europe was a fully armored knight. Think of those like the special forces. Most soldiers used spears across the board but swords were common as sidearms and sometimes primary weapons and were used mostly like you imagine a sword would be used.

>> No.15470893

>>15470794
Also those Hololive Error school uniforms. Not the hardest of work, but they've been keeping the 3d blokes they have on staff busy since they're paying them anyways.

>> No.15470905
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>HELP ME NUMBERBROS!
i have a 500 words essay due tomorrow in class and i haven't started it at all. i'm panicking, and i'm prepared to be roasted by you all. i just need some advice i guess.

has this ever happened to you guys?

did you manage to complete your essay mere hours before it's due? at this point i'm so overwhelmed and scared i feel like it's not even possible to write 500 words in such a short amount of time.

yes i know im rambling sorry. TLDR: idk what i'm doing, it's only first semester and i can't even do the bare minimum required of me, please recommend ways to end my life essay writing tips

The topic is of choice as long as it involves mathematics (it's a join maths-literature class, don't ask).
>HELP ME NUMBERBROS!

Noel juggers as an advanced thank

>> No.15470950

>>15470777
A European Sword was a hybrid between a spear and a metal club. They also worked really well when it came to cutting the heads off of spears and pikes. Speaking of the main reason European knights were even so heavily armored was because pointy sticks were so fucking meta defining that the only way to protect yourself was to encase yourselves in layers of metal rings, quilts, and sheets of metal.

>>15470867
There is a reason European Warfare stagnated until the 100 year war when gunpowder and long bow tactics made them obsolete. Even then point sticks absolutely dominated until fairly recently.

>>15470905
Write about Noel's K Cups.

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Matsuri returning with full force to the box

>> No.15470978

>>15470562
Samurai didn't fight with swords, they used bows and spears, just like literally every other army on the planet. Swords are a personal self defense weapon/status symbol, not a war implement

>> No.15470987

>>15470882
Yeah armor is fucking expensive that’s a ton of custom fitted steel. Lots of dudes running around with exposed legs arms and faces. Horses also ran around without armor a lot of the time and were vulnerable to swords and arrows. Falling off a moving horse kills/maims/paralyzes plenty of people even today

>> No.15471066

>>15470950
Honestly guns did the same with Japan when Portugueses and Spaniards brought them, but everyone thinks that sword fighting were the thing until late 1800s lmao

>> No.15471077

I didn't know this was the medieval /k/ thread.

>> No.15471080

>>15469301
Gura was at that capital and wants to overthrow the government. She's announcing her candidacy for 2024 at the end of the relay.

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>>15470978
>Swords are a personal self defense weapon/status symbol, not a war implement
Laughs in Latin.

>> No.15471115

>>15470882
>>15470987
I assume anon's point is that european swords didn't have to be sharp at the edge (like a knife), as demonstrated by the fact the illustration is showing both armored knights holding the sword by the blade (which would be stupid, as even if the gloves could resist the sharpness of the sword it would fucking dull them)

European Swords only had to be moderately sharp and very heavy, in a way even the impact on a fully armored knight would be incapacitating due to the blunt force.

>> No.15471117

>>15470905
I have typed and printed the abstract for my thesis while sitting in the room waiting to be called to present it in 20 minutes. And I got the degree. Yes, it ended up being worthless.

>> No.15471142

>>15471077
Bored, no one really relevant is streaming with any interesting amounts of numbers. Might as well discuss some of the more interesting points of pointy points since SOMEONE had to go bring up the meme swords.

>> No.15471194

>>15471077
Numbers are fucked and we have no way to prove what's going on, not sure what else we can talk about right now

>> No.15471215

>>15471108
anonchama, early samurai appeared in 12 century

>> No.15471222

>>15470640
You can stop pretending now omegatroon

>> No.15471224

>>15466797
Girl is a fucking genius, knew this would happen and avoided it all to come back big in Jan with anniversary and marika tournament.

>> No.15471235

Might as well discuss Anya at this point to stay on topic

>> No.15471276

>>15471235
Anya in the numbers thread is off-topic.

>> No.15471286

>>15470971
Chloe found out she can still get $13k a day from a collab stream and a short morning guerilla so she's okay with doing collabs now, have to put yourself out there to steal everyone else's gachis I guess

>> No.15471290

>>15471222
If I were Omega, I would probably reply to you with just
>No

>> No.15471312

>>15471276
Shitty numbers are still numbers

>> No.15471317

>Be you
>Go to https://vrabi.ml/group
>Pick a group (not Niji or Holo)
>Calculate by hand the median and average for all of their talents since no one collects the data
>Post results here accompanied by a picture of midgets fighting

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>>15465708
>trying to bait holoJP vs holoEN
kek

>> No.15471488

>>15465631
What has this bitch Susan come up this time with?
It's not because of holiday. Last year proves it.
This is youtube's delliberate attempt at minimizing vtubers influence on the platform. The higher ups at YT HQ hate weeb culture and dont want their platform to be a beacon for them. They want normie shit at the forefront to attract normie advertisers.

>> No.15471493

>>15471317
Why you calling me out like that?
Well, i won't do it now!

The last part that is.

>> No.15471528

reminder that this thread got civil with the vacation of a single schizo

>> No.15471545

>>15471488
last year had everyone still on lockdown. this year most people can actually visit families.

>> No.15471576

>>15471528
Which one? EN schizo? Council guy?

>> No.15471580

>>15471488
Anon.
LOCK. DOWNS.
Last year the lockdowns were still in full swing so many of the things that could be attributed to a drop this year weren't present last year.
Like, look. We can wait until January, and if the oddly low CCV to other metrics still persists, then we can shut down /#/ forever since Susan has decided to say "fuck you" to all numberfags forever.

>> No.15471601

>>15471576
hes probably multiple of those schizos, but check the archives

>> No.15471646

>>15471576
Doxnig.
However, it's also SEA sleepy time, and good portion of our usual schizos are asleep + there's nothing numbers related to discuss/bait with rn.

>> No.15471676

Oh yeah, Comiket is happening tomorrow.

Something else we can number on for a bit, to distract from the terrible numbers.

>> No.15471729

>>15471676
Gods, numbers are gonna be sad for JP all the way through until the new year. The first physical comiket in a while means a lot of otaku are gonna be out and about for the first time in ages.

>> No.15471742

>>15471580
Then until January it is.
Your last cope
The lockdown.

>> No.15471766

>>15471580
Less lockdowns could be part of the explanation, but some numbers are still very off, that's for sure. I just hope it won't be permanent as last year.

>> No.15471779

hey didnt FBKing reach 4M watched hours* for this month now?

>> No.15471800

>>15471646
Learn the fucking definition of doxx

>> No.15471862

>>15471779
Yeah, she should have this morning/with yesterday's stream.

>> No.15471930

>>15471729
Hodl your numbercoins, lockdown in 2 weeks when the cases skyrocket because of comiket

>> No.15471935

>>15471766
Somethig's definitely off. Lack of lockdowns alone wouldn't cull numbers this much. Especially since neets don't go out anyway. Susan is pissed at vtubers for beating normal streamers and she won't stop there.
Time to slowly start transitioning to NND

>> No.15471968

>>15471935
>NND
I also love 144p streams for non premium accounts

>> No.15471976

>>15471545
>>15471580
Likes are the same as normal, SC is the same as normal, number of people in the chat is normal, and yet CCV is massively down? Yeah I don't believe it for one second.

>> No.15472150

I just gave pecker a dislike on my 10 accounts, and I'm planning on doing it every time I see her streaming.

>> No.15472214

>>15472150
Thank you schizo, keep that hate flowing inside of you. -> >>15466827

>> No.15472284

>>15471968
If anything, they can cut a deal with Kadokawa to help them promote NND's premium in exchange for favorable cuts and at least 480p streams for everyone. HoloPro has negotiating power now, so maybe they would get it.

>> No.15472311

>>15472284
for that deal it recquires another TT collab and burning global down for the #12136187468326475263 time

>> No.15472402

>>15472284
disgusting, twitch and FB would beg them to move to their platforms, they would even pay them
there's no reason to go to NND when Mildom exists, it doesn't matter if it's a Bilibiili clone, the niggers only care about the money

>> No.15472405
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Looks a bit too much for 3k stream

>> No.15472466

>>15472405
Perhaps, but it's also 4 hours long.

>> No.15472479

>>15472405
when was last year's confirmed cull? around november/december?, I remember someone from Gen5 streaming and losing 1/3 of their viewers instantly and a bunch of indies complaining on twitter

>> No.15472544

>>15472479
The cull started around December 4th? Based off of the hard drop-offs, but it wasn't really noticed noticed until mid December when the complaints started coming in and YT had to give up the ghost and confirm yes, they did something.

>> No.15472565

>>15472402
twitch doesn't beg anyone or would not try to pay them anything. At this point it's pretty clear Twitch believes them being frontrunner is a permanent thing.

>> No.15472583

>>15472565
they still offer exclusivity contracts, that's more than enough to consider them begging, see Shroud and Ninja

>> No.15472598
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15472598

>>15472479

>> No.15472650

>>15467996
Honestly that question is genius. It's mainly there to make retards think CCV is important for Cover's hiring practices and so attempt to lie about what they get.

>> No.15472687

So why chloe still not open her membership? Are she waiting for the right moment to get maximum number

>> No.15472759

>>15472687
Already brought up, but the delay is likely due to whoever she tasked with the emotes not being finished yet.
Like, for some, they asked their artist to do the emotes? I'm not sure if all of them did though. I know council was a bit of a mix, and Sana did her own.

>> No.15472826

>>15465612
number of doujins.

>> No.15472827

>>15472405
what i find most weird about it is that weird plateau: the peak is too close to the avg ccv

>> No.15472859

>>15472598
>Dec 26th, 2020
oh no

>> No.15472864

>>15472479
I feel like it was Lamy but I don't remember what the stream was and I can't find the image in the archives

>> No.15472921

>>15472826
Useless. Only the number of scanned doujins matter.

>> No.15472936

>>15472583
they did to a point, but they've seem to have stopped recently, most obvious one is Ludwig. But there has been others, asmongold is another one who said he wasn't offered an special contract.

>> No.15472987
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>>15472827
Yeah it doesn't look natural at all, the graphs usually have natural curves and peaks but this one is just... so oddly flat

>> No.15473051
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>>15472864
It was this stream
https://youtu.be/-FppOS_KKzw
You might look at the drop and think it was a superchat reading or something similar, well, there's no sc reading portion in this stream at all and there's not a particular event in the game that could've caused this

>> No.15473061

>>15472921
I'm expecting a lot of non-h/soft(light r18) doujins for Hololive, thought I'm certain there will be some really really REALLY filthy stuff as well, it'll probs be in the minority.
Like, imagine drawing some absolutely filthy NTR/Rape doujin of your Oshi. That's probably a bit hard for some artists, though they may be more willing for those chubbas who they have more distance from.
Regardless of my speculation, I gladly await the scans to numberfag and ehm otherwise to my heart's content.

>> No.15473097

>>15473051
Okay autists of /#/, we need to trawl through the graphs of all recent streams to see if we can find another moment like this

>> No.15473115

>>15472987
remember when a few weeks ago we kept calling out the vertical drops on some graphs for being too weird? Can you remember any example?
Anyways, I think now is the next stage of their fuckery...

>> No.15473123

>>15467877
>English Vtubing might as well be only Gura and Mori
>and Mori
you know half of that is from music right? ina has better CCV and vod views

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>>15473051
And Polka was streaming AT THE SAME TIME, you can line up the peaks of both
https://youtu.be/QQRrttvZ8Ms

>> No.15473188

>>15473051
>>15473142
>20:47
rumao, can't be more obvious
I remember some nijis streaming too, but the only site that had their data tracked was killed (y'know, the one that we used to track views as the end of the stream)

>> No.15473214

>>15472150
Damn bro you are really out here changing the world with 10 dislikes

>> No.15473221
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15473221

I'«m reading TeamYouTube replies on twitter and there is no widespread complaint about CCV or subs right now but something called my attention
>lots of channels getting caught on the "reused content" rule
Reaction-style channels and reuploads are getting ganked (losing monetization) at a wide scale.
>even when they have permission to do so

>> No.15473238

>>15473097
thats assuming they were dumb enough to apply it to existing streams again, instead of doing "streams that start from this point on already get the filter on star; but the streams that started before now let them keep going without it so it wont cause mass suspicion"

>> No.15473240

>>15473051
THIS DATE IS:
December 2nd
For reference.

>> No.15473268

>>15470682
after 6 months

>> No.15473271

>>15473240
2/3 depending on the timezone, pretty sure we have tons of proof in /jp/

>> No.15473321

>>15473221
The TV niggers must have started something, Twitch too is going to implement measures against "re-used content", aka, reacting to other videos on stream

>> No.15473374
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15473374

>>15473142
>>15473051
This is one of the indications that people notice, the other one was the waiting room cull
>pic related, for Anya's debut on Dec 5

Stream went from a huge waiting room to ZERO and stayed at zero for some 8, 10 min, then the number would jump to the tens of thousands CCV.
Right now, to avoid that, they started doing that "batch verification" where they release the viewers at 1k, 2k batches per minute. It is the same thing anyway

>> No.15473408

>>15473321
Shit, some twitch streamers gonna lose 50% of their "content"

>> No.15473444

>>15473123
this was from the 13th and was for mori's music from the start not just in 2021 but she has over 128.3m music views which puts her second in terms of total. mori's total views is around 229m with gura at 219m. the next is ame at 108m. CBA to recount for the difference from the 13th to now
>>14593428

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>>15472987
Looking at all the graphs of today's streams they're all like this. There's the usual climb at the start then it just stops growing completely, sometimes it has a sudden growth when there's a funnel, but then it goes completely flat again instead of naturally slowly growing to new peaks

>> No.15473453

>>15472583
Not anymore.
I figure that twitch knows that most of these people can’t survive without doing react content which is something you can’t do on YouTube.

>> No.15473454

>>15473321
Oh boy. I'll legit laugh, if everyone on Twitch actually has to start making CONTENT again. I can imagine the absolute devastation once that happens. Right now, all the big streamers are REACT REACT REACT for hours on end.

>> No.15473487

>>15471729
The tickets are sold via a lottery system with very limited availability though. Probably a small-mid dip but I expect the top tallies to be about the same for the past couple of days.

>> No.15473486

>>15473408
>>15473454
meh, they will just make an extension to PIP whatever they are watching and sync ithe viewers with theirs, not too hard

>> No.15473489

>>15473444
was supposed to say she would still be second if you ignore music views

>> No.15473492 [DELETED] 

>>15473115
idk if this classifies as vertical drops, cant remember another clear example. First part I think it was some obs problems, but at the second half it was stabilized, yet still look at those weird plateaus going suddenly up and down

>> No.15473503

>>15473321
From YouTubes perspective they aren’t going to want to police permissions for restreamed content. They can just demonetize it all and automate it.

>> No.15473528

>>15473451
Godddamnit, if they rolled out a new 'verification system' starting on the 27th (which is a work day vs the 26th, which was not since it was a weekend) That would be....sigh.
Well, I'd rather it was just an error rather than YET ANOTHER deliberate action by YT to fuck over streamers, but who knows when it comes to these hacks.

>> No.15473535

>>15473051
>>15473142
>"the cull was EN only btw"
Those would have been useful earlier when a few retards were shitting the thread saying JP wasn't affected rumao.

>> No.15473552

>>15473454
Do TikTok users even care?

>> No.15473574

>>15473487
Oh right, thanks for the info. Makes sense, hadn't considered the limited attendance.
>>15473486
You know what? Fair. If it causes people to lose viewership though I'll still laugh (each extra add-on and extension that needs to be used is another layer to be traversed and thus less people watching).

>> No.15473623

>>15473574
yes, specially on mobile or hard-embeded players like consoles or smart TV's

>> No.15473624
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>>15473115
idk if this classifies as vertical drops, cant remember another clear example. First part I think it was some obs problems, but at the second half it was stabilized, yet still look at those weird plateaus going suddenly up and down.
I think maybe some aqua or shuba stream had the same, but cant remember exactly

>> No.15473802

>>15473451
yeah, just noticing that, all streams seem to have a "hard cap" at particularly suspicious intervals (all around the thousands)

>> No.15473862

>>15473454
It’s funny seeing some reactions being “it will be the death of streaming”. Meanwhile Japanese and corpo vtubers have been doing just fine being content creators for years.

>> No.15473921

>>15473321
Heh, did you guys miss the big drama about twitch streamers streaming full movies out in the clear?
Tv shutting down reacting content is going to be a minor thing.
Some guy streamed a pirated cam of the new spiderman movie.

>> No.15473965

>>15473921
Wouldn’t be surprised if Disney is what sets off another DMCA wave.

>> No.15473974

>>15473451
this flat graph makes no sense from the content's perspective, it heavily implies that
>no new viewers join after a particular point in the stream
>no viewers leave until the very end of the stream
my guess is that they are experimenting with the tab-in tab-out mechanic to lessen the stress on their servers by implementing a timed Q so viewers don't "move" from stream to stream after [x] elapsed seconds

>> No.15474000

So the cull is around 50% ??
That is ridiculous.
But it makes sense. That means Pekora is actually around 26k ccv now which aligns with what she would usually get at this time for this game

>> No.15474042

>>15473862
Well, the react meta...its the unfortunate result of two big factors
>Being Live is KING on Twitch. If you're not streaming, you're pretty much dead on the platform
>Corollary to the first point, there's only so much actual content you can put out a day without literally killing yourself from overworking
Maybe this forces Twitch (and by extension streamers on the platform) to fix one of the major issues, and that is creator burnout from having to try and cram as many live hours as possible in order to stay relevant and visible.

JP vtubers have mostly managed by being on YT, which thank goodness gives VODs a viable shelf life of at least a few days worth of growth so you don't HAVE to run 8-10 hour marathons each and every day of the week just to compete.

>> No.15474072
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15474072

Okay here is Miko's stream fighting the Elite Four 2 weeks ago vs Botan's today, Miko started off at the Elite Four and slowly grew as she beat them, then had a sharp incline during the Cynthia battle. Botan on the other hand didn't start to tackle the Elite Four until partway through the stream, that's when she had her incline, but when she was fighting the second member her incline stopped, and she never grew again at all even when she was fighting Cynthia.

>> No.15474079

>>15474000
as of today, I don't think we can confirm another global cull, we are just speculating in the way numbers are being processed cause they still fall under their average/median streams but the graphs are "very flat" on recent streams, we will see how it plays this week

>> No.15474131

>>15473921
>>15473965
There is a non-zero chance that yes, the mouse decides it's had enough and starts making it's move on Twitch. Lawyers getting ready to put 'fair use' laws to the test. The money some of these streamers are pulling is no doubt gonna draw eyeballs from the corps looking at their bottom lines and wanting a cut of that, 'or else', but no one wants to be the first to fire the shot lest they be marred with the bad press of 'killing livestreaming' or some other inflammatory headline.
If Disney moves though....well, expect every other Movie and TV studio to start sharpening the knives to go after Twitch.

>> No.15474133

>>15474072
yeah, the flatness after an incline seems a common factor, it looks like a hard-coded threshold

>> No.15474135

>>15474000
Ina's coming up with a talk stream, she should start at like 5k and ramp up to 7-9k in an hour or so. If people are really being culled 50% she'll stay at like...4k the whole time. Ina's fans are extremely reliable and she almost always streams at the same time, they wouldn't vary by thousands just because of the day, in fact she got her normal numbers even streaming literally on Christmas Day.

>> No.15474179

>>15474072
That's...odd. Very odd.
I think it's definitely worth keeping track of for all streamers and vtubers that we have easily visualized data for (Niji, Holo, anyone else tracked on Vrabi) to see if this sort of behavior of the numbers is widespread from now on.

>> No.15474187

>>15474131
It’s an inevitability just like the music industry coming after twitch.
Twitch right now has 0 reason the acknowledge the issue until lawyers start knocking because the high watch time and ad split is keeping them in business.

>> No.15474240

>>15474072
all right this is fucking weird now

>> No.15474320

>>15474131
I think it will be enough for Disney to basically poke Amazon and tell them to sort out their bastard child Twitch. Twitch will then do an over the top ban wave for anyone that didn't get the memo and implement a half assed content detection system..
Let's not forget, Amazon doesn't really like having businesses that don't turn profit that can be reinvested into the company. Twitch has never been in the black.

>> No.15474491

>>15474320
Isn’t twitch mostly just there to sell Amazon prime and get customer data from their perspective?
Just like google only cares about youtube in terms of the influence and data it gives them.

>> No.15474573

>>15470667
good, she needs a niche.

>> No.15474578

>>15467882
lolololo ohnonono gurabros what happened

>> No.15474636

>>15474072
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/pS5TOMFX7ZY
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/UZf1N6fd4vw
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/cr2Tyi61C5M
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/2LeL22KwJmA
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/FjHbm1lykp4
More elite 4 streams, for all of these it's immediately obvious from the first glance when the final battle was fought, yet Botan didn't peak at all?

>> No.15474780

>>15470777
usually when they fought against people with strong armor. most people don't ackowledge but bow and arrows were a lot more efficient and used than other weapons

>> No.15474805

>>15474072

weird as hell

>> No.15474880

>>15474131
Disney has never cared about how others see them. They’re notorious for going after small daycares and the like for painting Mickey Mouse without permission.
If the large streamers like xqc start streaming Disney shit then they’re all fucked. Mind you this guy was retarded enough to want to go after the IOC over fair use when they struck him for reacting to their stream. Basically every top streamer on the platform had to yell at him to stop because he would lose and get the attention of the big corpos.

>> No.15475171

>>15474880
>Mind you this guy was retarded enough to want to go after the IOC over fair use when they struck him for reacting to their stream. Basically every top streamer on the platform had to yell at him to stop because he would lose and get the attention of the big corpos.
Of course they know they're in the wrong...

Streamers were a mistake.

>> No.15475280
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First time I see both his stream appearing at the Ikioi list. The difference is just.. lol

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>> No.15475530

>>15475280
The Twitch one is just a restream, it's free 600 users.

>> No.15475539

>>15475493
Anon?

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