/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I think is too son to call laplus your oshi

>>16192949
>He doesn't feels a mighty need

>>16192424
How long it took for you to get there?

>>16192424
Do your quality reps next. That gif's quality fucking sucks.

>>16193125
3 years

>>16192424
The easy thing for me was the Kanji. Actually speaking Jap is the hard part.

I need to start doing this too, I feel like I'm missing out by being a gay EOP. I just haven't pushed myself into learning yet

>>16193125
OP here, i say around 8 months

>>16193006
I feel a mighty need to mating press Lap-chan

Can you recommend a good learning resources ?

>>16196116
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

I don't want to be able to understand them, I want to keep hearing high pitched jibberish and fill in the blanks myself.

i've just started and it's fucking muzukashi.
but my short term memory is fucked from the devil's weed years ago. eventually kanji will stick long term, but learning new stuff is brutal for me.

>>16196703
It's wild when you show up to talk about a stream and you know the most Japanese

Spoken Japanese is baby talk. Now, written Japanese...

we're all gonna make it /djt/bros

do your fuckin reps

>>16196979
I miss the Put It In Your Mouth series so fucking much man

>>16193271
Did you use the documents from /jp/?

>>16202023
Just read https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html , and never step in /jp/, because everything good and worthwhile from there is on that website, while some retards in /djt/ will give you worse advice and you are too unknowledgeable in Japanese to figure what is bad and what is good advice. Don't step there and just use the website, it has everything.

>>16192424
dunning-kruger

>>16202523
I’m not OP and I believe its possible. I have a friend who learned how to understand vtubers in roughly half a year with a mixture of grammar books, flashcards, turbo autism, and watching vtubers for hours nonstop.
Whether or not he could chat with locals if you dropped him in the middle of Tokyo, I don’t know. But the dude can understand what vtubers are saying, at least.

>>16192424
>they legit talk like cavemen, like tarzan
yeah this is what put me off most of holos after my Japanese got good. It's like they're talking to a retard and it makes me feel bad. Flare says they talk like this for kaigai viewers.

>>16202790
Real Japanese is harder than the Japanese from anime

Translated clips will never be able to catch all of the good stuff. You can cope with "all the worthwhile stuff will be translated", but there are several examples of that not being true.
Even if we imagine that was true, the missing gaps make your enjoyment of them so shallow compared to what you get when you know the language. Posting rrats on /vt/ is how EOPs compensate for missing out on the banter, fanart, and jp memes that make this hobby unique.

>they legit talk like cavemen
YMMV

>>16193203
This. Kanji is just rote memorisation. Parsing spoken Japanese in real time is a much steeper learning curve, especially since the grammar is so different to western languages.

>>16203370
You're unicornally overthinking it. The other anon was right, it's ooga booga speak. Just dumb yourself down and be a fecetious lying piece of shit and Japanese is actually fun. It's all about crafting your words simply but also poetically to hide the true meaning so as to remain polite to others.

Language is an art.

Just learn a language you might actually use one day

>>16196573
TY anon, ill check it out later

>>16192424
>your oshi would be proud
my oshi speaks English and is in my DMs
take the indie pill anon

>>16202673
It's definitely possible, but I've come to the conclusion that it will not be easy like OP is claiming for a long time. Even if your grammar knowledge is good, and you can always keep up with the pace (which you can't), there will always be conversation subjects where you understand almost nothing. You can only really reduce how often that happens.
It is fairly easy to learn enough to enjoy streams though.

>>16196573
>https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
Main practice
>Anime and TV

MY S I D E S

>>16205156
For the last fucking time, I will not learn spic, and learning Chinese is a death sentence. I also never want to willingly associate with sandniggers. What other fucking language do think is actually useful? Every other language is just as useless as Japanese, fucking name one that isn't

>>16207648
But you want to be asociated with nazi allies?

>>16205156
You may not speak japanese, but if you're in this thread you're definitely going to read and listen to it.
Besides, just knowing japanese will open up opportunities to actually use it. Trust me.

Since you're in this board learning a language is the least of your time wasters.

>>16205156
Most of my visual media consumption is VTubers and anime. Most of the games I play are Japanese VNs and H-games. Most of the things I read are manga or shitty LNs with piss-poor translations. How would I not be using Japanese?

>>16207648
Korean you actual clown.

>>16208407
In what universe is Korean any more useful than Japanese.

>>16207455
unless you're surrounded by japanese native speakers, you need to find an alternate way to hear a large amount of japanese speech. hearing the grammar and vocabulary you're learning in actual, spoken japanese is the best way to understand it. of course, you need a pretty solid foundation in japanese before this starts being helpful.
obviously you arent just watching anime; you look up words you dont know or phrases you dont understand as you go to get a feel for how they're used, etc.
there are other ways to get that sort of exposure, but anime and tv are very convenient in that the voice actors generally speak very clearly, and you have easy access to subtitles so you can look up the things you dont understand.

>>16205156
I use it every fucking day for my hobbies, and it's extremely useful to me. Grinding the language has been one of the best choices of my life once I decided to consume Japanese media and entertainment.
You can argue that it doesn't really open up any realistic job opportunities, but that doesn't mean it's not useful if it improves the experience you have with what you enjoy.
People learn very specific jargon that can rarely be applied to their occupation if their hobbies are cars, trains, and music. They learn very specific reflexes that can rarely be applied if their hobbies are video games or sportsball. But they learn all of those because it enriches their time spent with their hobby
Knowing Japanese will enrich your time watching Japanese vtubers and cartoons, reading manga/WN/LN/VNs, and browsing twitter/5ch.

>>16192424
Basic stuff is pretty easy to learn.I only get lost sometimes during zatsudans or like when Marine speaks really fast I cant even catch half of the things she's saying. Still, I'm not planning to keep doing JP reps since trilingual, and my native language, english in russian are already making a mess in my head when I'm trying to think and form sentences
>>16207648
This is your typical dumb EOP justifying not learning any other language.

I lack motivation to learn japanese. Frankly, as someone who's not a language enthusiast, knowing 2 languages is already an accomplishment. Yes, it wouldn't hurt to learn another one, but as someone who has zero interest in visiting japan and who doesn't watch anime it's almost entirely useless to me. I admit that not needing to rely on translations would be nice, but the effort it takes isn't worth it for that purpose alone.

>>16209708
since I'm trilingual*
english AND russian

See, I already fell apart there. kek