/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

because people are different anon

her nihongo is warui

Its because of the language barrier. The collabs are always one timers that would otherwise get boring really fast since Gura cant speak Japanese for shit
JPs actually care about the quality of collabs anon.

>>16306917
If you were on the same team as Lebron James you wouldn't want to play with him? Because this is what's happening here, they're on the same company as the biggest in the field and barely interact with her.

>>16306898
Gura is obsessed with Shion and hunted her down to collab. Marine and Aqua was corporate initiated and her collab with her illustrator was pretty much a disaster in terms on communication. It's the language issue and Gura's general reclusiveness and complete disconnect from everything the moment her stream ends.

I feel like the other popular blue woman that rarely collabs should have taught us something. In fact let me help you. It's her.

>>16307168
Shion was the one who first contacted Gura, not the other way around.

because they are racist fucks

>>16306898
JPs really don't care about EN, they're just intrigued by them. I don't think any of them realise just how influencial Ame is or how much of a trendsetter she she can be. She's just a shy cute blonde in their eyes that somehow has 1.6m subscribers. They also probably don't realise that Sana is the best artist in the company (although that's 100% Sana's fault). None of them have done their research into the EN girls. The only one they do know about is Mori and they still haven't figured out she's unironically the most awkward and cringe vtuber on the planet.

>>16306898
It's definitely the language barrier. Miko actually mentioned how she wanted to collab with the En girls that don't speak Japanese but was nervous about the language barrier. And I'm sure they would feel bad asking to get a middle man translator (Kiara IRyS Bae) to collab with people. Hopefully her telephone game during the 24h helped get over that fear because I still want a Elite George GTA stream.

>>16306898
Why would anyone want to collab with the peak EOP? Aqua's and Marine's thing will not happen again and they literally needed to have someone there to translate.

>>16307442
It seems you barely know anything about EN as well. Ina is the best artist (she's a professional) and Ame barely set any trends, she mostly copy from others like Asacoco.

>>16307442

Stop shitposting and falsefagging with my daughter.

>>16308222
>Every post I don't like is bait
Lol.

>>16306898
She mogged entire company in less than a month, I would've hate her too if I was JP

She does not speak japanese and most of JP does not speak English or are reluctant to speak it for a long time.

>>16306898
she's too intimidating, just look at her

>>16307066
not a good comparison, LeBron is an insufferable faggot, Gura isnt

Obviously language barrier
Then my rrat is she's so popular that managers have to put a cooldown system in requests otherwise everyone would keep bugging Gura like predators

>>16306898
>her big numbers may unironically scare some of them
>nobody wants to make a fool of themselves by not being able to communicate properly
>Gura is very reclusive, you don't see her interacting with other holos publicly very often. You have to reach for her first if you want to collab
tl;dr: autism

It could be a Pekora situation, where she just prefers to interact directly with her chat. Any collab would force her to focus on the other member, leaving her chat screaming into the void as she ignores them.

>>16307442
Ame literally just copies things from Vshojo and Twitch streamers

a more obvious reason is because she lives in the US, meaning the time zones are way off.

>>16309624
Ame invented Twitch streamers and Vshojo exist because of HoloMyth

>>16307752
Do you not know about Sana's art? They're both considered professionals, but Ina is an amateur compared to Sana in the art world.

>>16309598
>>her big numbers may unironically scare some of them
JPs regularly have 10-20k live viewers. The shart doesn't have any uniquely big numbers.

>>16309704
that's why I said "some of them" you deranged numberfag

>>16309700
Where can I see her art?

>>16309826
They collab just fine with others within JP who get those numbers. Nobody is scared of numbers.

>>16309879
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1429631981986500608?t=CZYuI72RMsP0bfNBsEX5dA&s=19

>>16307752
Comparing them both, Sana has a more successful professional career. She's just retarded to not advertise her true skills.

>>16309954
I dont like Sanas art. Looks like its some weird parody with those eyes.

>>16309891
JPs may be scared that Gura's 10K viewers are all overseas people, which could make them feel self conscious, especially if attempting to speak a foreign language. It's easy to collab with a fellow JP, as their viewers can often overlap, but ENs have completely different viewers

>>16310050
That's assuming way more than necessary. It's simply a matter of not wanting to bother with someone they literally can't communicate with.

>>16310045
That's just her style. The details in literally everything else are what make her a superior artist compared to Ina.

>>16310135
Thats not just a style dude. Ping pong the animation had a style and it didnt look as stupid as those freaking eyes

>>16310045
what's wrong with the eyes? the lack of noses is a bit odd tho

>>16310407
Simplified to the point it looks like she just cant draw eyes instead of it just being a style

>>16310467
I agree that it's not her best work. Do your reps and you can find her pro art illustrations on Pixiv and twitter. She literally designs characters for games like Arknights.

>>16307442
Roboco…

>>16310467
the simplification certainly explains the lack of noses lol. chibi heads on normal bodies to try to make it look "cute"

>>16307066
Not a good comparison, Lebron knows english like the rest of his team, Gura does not know japanese like the rest of her team.

>>16306898
Weak bait

>>16306898
>Fubuki
>Korono
>Karine
>Shion
>Okayu
>Rushia
>Flare
>Noel
They all ahve expressed their interest in her, but it is kinda hard since they have no fucking iudea what she's saying

>>16310311
Sanalites are getting desperate lately. As long as she refuses to show what she's made of it's fair game to stay sceptical of her. All I've seen regarding her supposed skills are just hyperboles.

>>16310940
>gura thread
>sana getting shit on
never fucking change /vt/

>>16307752
Sana is objectively a way better artist than Ina, it's just she doesn't ever draw on stream

>>16310940
I'm not even a Sanalite. She's not my oshi. I just know of her illustrations. Most likely the reason she streams so infrequently at times is because she's working on professional art for gacha games.

>>16310467
>>16310940
Do your reps, it's very easy to find. Ina is easily the best artist (vtuber) but if Sana stepped up and showed her true power level instead of making fucking reddit meme art, Ina would quickly lose that title.

how the fuck did this devolve into artist powerlevel shit

>>16306898
sorry anon. My oshi will never collab with EN.

>>16311447
Who is your oshi?

>>16306898
Because they threat Gura as a celebrity, didn't you watcher the summer festival? everyone was ''WOW THE REAL GURA, IS REALLY HER''

>>16314748
This. Gura literally has Sora level status. She's like an untouchable god.

Festival liked her new outfit she will get groomed soon

>>16311380
I don't know if she's technically better or not, but I think even ina's art looks better than sana's.

>>16307031
Except the Gura/Shion collabs were great non stream watcherchama

>>16309661
rrat seller give me your strongest rrats!

>>16306898
but the average id knows some japanese

>>16306898
idk why, but I personally don't really enjoy watching collabs with a language barrier. It might be kino for a bit but eventually the collab usually devolves into cringe. That being said a Gura collab with my oshi, Pekora, could be fun to watch.

>>16309954
I'm conflicted It looks like Sana is better then Ina at drawing bodies but absolute ass at faces while Ina is good at drawing faces but merely average when it comes to bodies.

>>16320024
Ina has practically mastered drawing faces at the 3/4 angle to the point where she almost draws everything that way. Sana can't beat her there. But where she does win is in every other part of an illustration. The details in some of her pieces are insane. I want to post and talk about some specific ones I've seen but that would be doxxing and get me banned.

She traumatized after shion shout Glory to the aryan, heil hitler on stream

>>16325774
Shion
>"Gura yada yada white (t)power?"
Gura
>"Yes!"

>>16307442
Most subtle Mori anti btw

>>16311561
ojou

>>16307442
They hire Sana to do some art for holo merch or something if i remember correctly

Let's assume everyone in EN lasts, say, 5 years.
Do you think any of them will nihongo jouzo by then?

Because she doesnt speak japanese. Yes this is a thing op.

>>16326275
Definitely not. Nobody in EN is taking actual Japanese lessons

>>16306898
because english is the ugliest language and nobody from JP can bear it

>>16306898
She's an extreme introvert and has a huge barrier in that these senpais of hers are some of the people she looks up to the most. Don't meet your heroes comes to mind.

>>16306898
Suisei > Gura

>>16325558
Holy shit I googled one image and youre already right what the fuck
I never knew about sanas roommate but checking it now, all of this art is amazing and I definitely see what you mean in the rest of the art being even better than ina’s

>>16306898
This is a crazy ass rrat, but I think it is because of the language barrier.

>>16309307

>>16331274
link to the art?

>>16306898
Because they're shy and japanese culture doesn't take the initiative and the jps are even worse at eng than Gura is at nip, and gura will never learn nip

>>16306898
meds

>>16306898
Haachama reached out to Gura about a collab live on stream, and the collab never happened. I think there's more to it than the JP girls not seeking her out.

>>16319708
Gura and Pekora colla would unironically be like 2 world superpower collide

>>16335598
Lol look up one of the latest Arknight characters. The background is fucking insane

>>16326251
does ojou interact with somebody outside her branch before? the only outside branch interaction i know is her replies to moona tweets

>>16306898
Change your question to "How come the ID girls barely seek Gura for collabs?"
They don't have language barrier
At least half of them actually talented but didn't have enough exposure to western audience, only Reine & Ollie who try to collabs with EN but surprisingly not Gura.

>>16340378
Leech comments might be a problem. Remember what happened to Moona?

>>16306898
She doesn't want anybody to find out that she's a jewess

>>16307066
Not a good comparison. Lechoke is a nigger AND a communist. Which is on-par with being a double nigger. He should recieve minimum 2 life-sentences for such offenses!

Gura is the strongest vtuber

>>16306898
wake up EN's never make a good chuba incels, id come close to jp cultur, like jp would care wht ens doin

>>16335939
Huh? Then why do Mori Ina and Ame have that, aside from Kiara whos fluent in Japanese. Moris Japanese is pretty much gibberish but she still has collabs with JP. Miko was also saying a few days ago that she wants to one on one collab with Ame this year too.

>>16340378
They probably just wanna avoid cumbuds, it will always baffle me how such a nice streamer has one of the most horrid fanbase there is

Why would they. Gura is boring as fuck lol

>>16310135
there is no way you believe this if you actually know how to draw

Because a huge languagebarrier makes for shit and awkward streams.

>>16307031
>quality of collabs anon
I feel like the impact of lack of communication because of language barrier is grossly over exaggerated. Of course the vtubers are gonna feel the awkwardness but that's not something that translates to viewers one to one. Most just wanna see the girls have fun so if they were to just power through the awkwardness it could even provide a very unique experience.

>>16335598
Just Google Arknights Mizuki e2, you can figure out the rest. Also (not replying specifically to you anon), when it comes to digital art/anime art, art style matters more since it’s the only way to distinguish yourself from thousands of other artists. Quality matters of courses but if your art style can be easily compared to somebody else’s like Inas it loses value

>>16306898
She will collab with her fan, Okayu

>>16306898
Probably a few factors (and a rrat): most of JP and ID are not actually that interested in collabing with Gura, timezone issues between NA and ID/JP, language barrier excuse, and the rrat that management keeps her pretty restricted on who she can actually collab with.

>>16345462
So why no Haachama collab despite Haachama asking on Twitter and on stream?

>>16348985
Haachama is busy being schizophrenic, she's on a permantent collab with the voices in her head

My guess is they do seek out collabs and this is how the DMs go:

"Gura-chan!!!! We can do collaboration stream? YES!!!"
"aaaaah _____-senpai!!! i'd love to! lemme know what you would like to do together"
"YAAAY we play anything, any is good!!!"
"okay cool! we will organize something soon!!"
"Yes okay great!!"
(Seen 9 months ago)

>>16311380
>Ina is easily the best artist (vtuber)
imagine unironically believing this

>>16349013
Check her collab with Hoshikawa. I feel like everyone in hololive are boomers who get weirded out.
Gura probably has some family issues, or she's racist. Her voice drips with heckling, sarcasm and making fun of what she's talking about. That type of sneering way of talking would piss off status based communication of jps easily

>>16309598
It's lonely at the top.

>>16306898
>OI OI OI~~~~~
>MAJI FUZAKEN NA~~~~~
>BOKO BOKO NI SURU~~~~~
>*repeat
No one gives a shit about collab with her

>>16350478
i love my cringe shark

>>16349657
Forget the JP. Even her own genmates are drifting away from her.
Kinda sad to see, but chumbuds don't want to see her collabing with anyone so fans reflect the streamer, I guess.

>>16349657
>>16351618
meds

>>16351618
This but Ame, unironically.

>>16326275
I remember when Ame made learning JP her 2021 new years resolution.

>>16340419
Nothing? That trash is only here.
>>16348985
Why would Gura collab with the person responsible for losing the perms to her favorite game

>>16349179
Its funny cause this is exactly what happened with Kiara and a possible MH Rise collab, Gura asked Kiara, she agreed and then Gura just ghosted her for like 2 weeks.

>>16354584
cumbrain

They do but Gura knows how far beneath her they are so ignores them.

>>16306898
It's clear that Gura can't speak Japanese besides basic phrases, and most of them are either terrible at English or have low confidence.

Time difference and btw what time zone is Gura in

>>16357984
>They do but Gura knows how far beneath her they are so ignores them.
Based

>>16306898
They are actually afraid of her. Curse of being number 1

>>16309704
>He thinks the vod numbers are real
Pretty retarded buddy

>>16361652
Who was even talking about vod numbers?

>>16354584
What's her favorite game?

>>16362009
Me because I ment ccv and was taking a shit 40 seconds after I woke up while posting on 4chan. I may also be retarded but at least I'm not a number fag.

>>16362102
Ok so somehow the shart has real ccv and JPs have fake ccv and that's why they're afraid of collabing with her?

Why are you guys still on this. Nobody wants to hear Gura repeating the same 5 Japanese phrases that she knows on cooldown for an hour.

>>16309700
>sanafags actually believe this

>>16343043
Why do seaniggers type like this?

>>16306898
>She is like the biggest vtuber in the world and the JP girls treat her like your average ID member. This is not right... And don't tell me they don't seek her for collabs because of the language barrier when she already collabed with Shion, Aqua, Marine and Nachoneko before.
1) She doesn't know JP
2) She is only top 10 in CCV