/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

What is ‘kouden’?
‘Kouden’ is a monetary gift to offer to the deceased and the survivors in place for incense or flower. This is to mourn the deceased and at the same time to show your sympathy to the survivors by supporting a part of the funeral expenses in the needy time. When you attend a wake, a funeral or a farewell service, you need to bring some money in a special envelope called ‘bushuugibukuro’. If you cannot attend any of them, you must send the money in the ‘bushuugibukuro’ via a registered mail.

However, when the ‘fuhou’ notice says no ‘koden’ accepted, you don’t have to prepare ‘koden.’

How you decide the amount
There is no set amount of ‘koden.’ It depends on the relationship you had with the deceased, your age and the local custom. If you know someone who is attending the funeral, you may want to consult with the person.

When you are representing your company, consult with you boss as to the amount. If you don’t have too close a relationship, a representative can bring ‘koden’ with all names concerned written on the envelope.

A guideline of ‘koden’ amount
In general, the rule of thumb is: when the deceased is a parent it will be 50,000-100,000yen, for a sibling 30,000-50,000yen, for a grand parent 10,000-50,000yen, for other relative 5,000-10,000yen and for a friend, an acquaintance and a colleague 3,000-5,000yen.

You have to avoid these amounts such as 4,000yen or 40,000yen and 9,000yen or 90,000yen because when these numbers are pronounced in Japanese, these sounds suggest a death or a hardship.

Meanwhile, Sana takes 5 month breaks whenever a fruit fly dies in her kitchen.

>>16346924
asian country have culture where people give condolence money to the dead person family to help with the funeral, asian have more moral unlike westerner so it might be a shock for you to know that people actually help each other during difficult situation

>>16347169
fpbp

>>16346924
op is a redditor btw

Grandparents would love to see their grandchildren living in financial security.

>>16347169
lol shut the fuck up. literally every vtuber that had a family member dying before disabled superchat before announcing it. it's considered disgraceful anywhere

If you reply to the chloe schizo I curse you to a dozen newfags replying to your oshi's schizo and if she doesn't have one then one will be created.

>>16347400
Please provide some examples to back up your claim thanks

Shame I cannot believe anything that comes out of her dirty mouth anymore, but I hope her grandma is alive and well.

>>16347400
Even the Sasaki "the cunt" Saku disabled SC when her father died.
Disgusting money hungry whore

>>16346924
She didn't do shit, she just forgot to change the SC settings. It's based on the last stream you did.

>>16347466
nah thats you

>>16347431
Rushia, Shion, some niji

>>16347466
oh just fuck off you overly aggressive faggot

>>16347169
too long, didn't read. regardless, monetizing your family member's death is trashy and low.

>>16347428
your curse didn't work since your oshi is a money jew

>>16347526
nah you are

If she did it for the money she would not take a break. It does hurt her financially in the end.

>>16347169
>You have to avoid these amounts such as 4,000yen or 40,000yen and 9,000yen or 90,000yen because when these numbers are pronounced in Japanese, these sounds suggest a death or a hardship.

Thanks anon!

Because anons here are paragons of virtue and have any right to judge others

>>16347298
I understand it for poor people, but what's the difficult financial situation for someone in top 10 hololive SC?

>>16347169
This is reserved to family and close friends - the real ones.
No matter from what perspective you look at it, monetizing your grandma death while literally swimming in money is distasteful, borderline disgusting.

Still annoyed she ended up being an airhead. Her model/lore was perfect for a kuudere.

>>16347713
no no, this is not just for poor because rich people do that as well, its not about the money but for condolence and respect

>>16347169
There's a big fucking difference between this practice and milking thousands of online strangers for pity money.
I had nothing against Chloe until now but this is just fucking disgusting.
>b-b-b-b-but she still needs to eat!
She's already made enough money to eat for the rest of her life without ever having to work.
Don't you fucking dare pretend like she had no choice but to monetize her grandmother's death to an online audience of complete strangers to make ends meet you fucking faggots.

>>16347713
>>16347718
She hasn't had her first Youtube payout yet, she's living off of what she made before (which isn't bad tbf, she got $10k when her PL graduated) and the measly salary Cover pays.

>>16347590
nah, she didn't capitalize on tragedy

>>16347857
>She hasn't had her first Youtube payout yet
And how would send SC help in any way, since she's not receiving it?

>>16347810
I don't know where you live but she did not make enough money for the rest of her life in Japan yet.

>>16347713
>>16347800
also in the place i live (indonesia, banten), theres a tradition to record the amount of money and the name of the giver, so the next time the person's or his family members is dead, we could pay the money back

Why y'all so fucking pressed about SC? I doubt it was intentional, but even if it was, so what? How do you expect her to last without money on indefinite unpaid leave?

No one knows how much % cover takes, nor what kind of financial commitments talents have. So bold of you to assume she "swims" in money and never has to work again. You lack basic human empathy, I bet none of you even have a job

You have no right to judge her, eat shit

>>16347929
cover give all their talents basic salary

>>16347889
That only works in her favor, she just hit "stream" without second thought, and I doubt people sending SC are even fully aware of how they work

>>16347905
>in the place i live (indonesia

>>16347929
She ain’t going to fuck you

>>16347905
>(indonesia, banten)

ew, go back to your dunghole

>>16348083
Don't shitpost with Mel

>>16348035
Unlike you I don't have illusions a girl I don't personally know is going to fuck me, take your meds

A reminder that your oshi had a successful vtuber persona before and she scammed her own viewers by running away after getting a 3D crowdfunding.
Condonlses to her but she **knows** how to remove superchats and COVER gives them a decent salary, so don't be retarded

>>16347698
I sorta am, actually. I work for a business that helps families grieve the dead. Chloe works for a business that preys on human emotion and individuals, typically men, who lack social interaction. We're not the same.

Chloe also raises this money to give it to the type of business I work for, but won't even invite you to her grandmother's funeral. But of course not, because she is a vTuber. Therefore, she shouldn't be taking it in the first place. I guess the irl aspect only really matters when there's money involved.

>>16348112
i will shitpost with mel even more just to spite you lmao

>>16348130
proof?

I wonder if people would kill their family members more often if getting pity money was a global tradition.

>>16348213
just see in the next two weeks, a nice trend that we have here

>>16348130
She did not run away with the money for her crowdfund. But everything you say falls in the trust me dude category.
How much is this decent salary you are talking about? You seem to know the contract details really good.

>>16348213
people have done that for centuries, killing and collecting life insurance money, if you wanna read up on that you can google Nannie Doss case for example

>>16346924
just wait until the welcome back stream, thats when the real money starts pouring in kek

>>16348294
hmmm i wonder who will be dead next

>>16347905
>also in the place i live (indonesia

HoloX was such a fucking mistake, holy shit...

>>16348329
I hope it's me.

>>16348399
As a Gen they are the most beloved Holomen right now.

>>16348213
Did you live in Palestine or Gaza Strip?

>>16348407
well if you're an indonesian then carry on

>>16348284
That's contract fraud, not pity money.

>>16348450
Pretty telling that massive crying numberfags, pitybaiting jews and just in general huge fuck ups are the most beloved Holos...
Please extract hag bird and Samurai and nuke this gen

>>16347466
Tf did sasaki do?

>>16348399
Nah they're all pretty good except Chloe.
I wouldn't be surprised if the other holomem resent her for being such a golddigging whore and ripping the soul out of their company. She might even potentially alienate a ton of gachikoi who find her behavior disgusting and do damage to everyone else's superchat earnings in the long run.

>>16348726
He thinks she bullied Luna

holox are like western twich streamers. they are different from other gens

>>16346924
Numbersagis seething

Chloe makes seaniggers seethe just by existing, because they see her earning more in 1 stream than 10 years of themselves wageslaving in a sweatshop

Why are people buttmad about this? She was earning easy money being cute. You should be more mad about that. She would fucking earn this amount just by doing a karaoke stream. Are two-views mad they are not earning as much as her?

>>16349403
Yes, 2view seaniggers

>>16349330
>>16349403
>>16349459
You know someone is a lukewarm iq, wallmart employee idiot when they use this stupid "2 views seething, you're just jealous" response. Absolutely retarded.
None of these threads are created by fucking 2 views, and no one is actually angry. Nobody actually cares, when people say bad things about a vtuber, it's the same as saying bad things about a character in a movie, there's no real emotional investment it's just an excersize in criticism.
The fact you snail brain ingrates always feel the need to project and personalize the insults just shows that you're overly emotionally attached to fucking anime girls and desperately need to defend her, not even with real arguments.

You're literally "leave Britney alone" guy

>>16350146
Not reading all that shit indobro, the seethe is delicious though

>>16349403
As I already said. She would earn more money by not taking a break and doing her streams regularly.
People here will get mad again when she does her return stream.

This manipulative bitch. I swear to never watch her boring streams.

Look Chole is surfing

>>16350146
youre fucking gay for writing all of whatever that is.

>>16350146

>>16350487
based jew vtuber. get the bag at all costs. it wont be coming from me but get that bag

>>16350146
t. 2view

>Chloe bleed Holobronies dry.
Based Orca dab on Holobronies.

>>16347905
>Indonesia

週間ﾗｲﾌﾞ配信時間ﾗﾝｷﾝｸﾞ (37ch)
01月06日 ~ 12日 (7日間)
博衣こより 41時間8分37秒
角巻わため 35時間50分18秒
雪花ラミィ 34時間33分56秒
不知火フレア 32時間19分45秒
ロボ子さん 29時間4分17秒

watch koyori the rest of HoloX are assholes

>>16347905
How much of that do you figure Chloe's going to give back to her fans? My grandma's getting on up there, you think if I shoot Chloe a red superchat she'll do something nice for the old girl's eventual funeral?

>>16347192
Kek

>>16351049
theyre more interesting to watch and i like them more than i like nice people

>>16347905
subhuman tradition to give things with the expectation to receive them back. no wonder many indos who live in indo make it their goal to move out.

>>16346924
Sigma as fuck

Even if she disabled superchat for this stream, people would just send them at another so what difference does it make.

Japs are pissed

The Homodemon tried to warn you, but you didnt want to listen.

>>16351707
>they're pissed shes going to take more than three days off
Christ, if only they knew how good they had it..

>>16351707
they only get pissed when someone not watching koyo's stream

all the seethe in this thread
LMAO

>>16347169
>You have to avoid these amounts such as 4,000yen or 40,000yen
uh-oh

On one hand I understand people saying she should have turned the superchats off. On the other hand it's not like you're forced to send them. The culture of hololive being based on the fans throwing money around is as much to blame.

>>16351707
>I'm a member of society
You get what you fucking deserve.

>>16347400
>>16347466
>It's the streamer's responsibility to protect her viewers from being retarded
You faggots are mad on the assumption that these retards are being forced to give away their money.

>>16351971
kek

>>16347466
Sister Clair didn't though so it's not like it's the first time this happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q-fX1E6B_s

On coco's graduation announcement, the superchat was ON as well

>>16351971
Hey chloe, wanna hear a joke?

>>16351707
There's a difference between an entertainer and a salaryman, a salaryman can still do their work even if depressed, an entertainer probably won't be able to make the experience enjoyable.

>>16347501
Whoa, a whole 3 out of a roster of 40+ people!

>>16346924
She giving heads up to fans why she wont stream for a while and gave good reason why.

>>16353771
death of family member and milking it for pity SC =/= leaving company/group

>>16354345
what's the difference?

wtf guise??? do you hate chloe now? uwu

>>16354394
Dunno, maybe Grandma is definitely dead,
Coco just reformed as an indie?

>>16346924
Gotta get some simp money before her vacation.

>>16351707
>791
>I can't read Super Chat for a while, but it's ON ;)
lmao

People here make up the weirdest rules and then get mad when others don't follow it, same with members tweeting to each other and other autism.

>shame

>My granny just died :(
>But you can give me money to ease the pain ;)

>>16354540
It's not hard to understand. It is distasteful for an already wealthy person to further monetize the death of a family member

Stream lasted a whole 13 minutes, she didn't drag it out at all to "farm" or whatever you guys are pretending that took place.
She would make more money just by streaming normally and doing a single karaoke.

>>16347169
I don't know how things work in Japan, but in the west monetizing a family death would be seen as extremely bad.

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障害者差別、黒人差別、女性差別視聴者のほとんどが障害者

「女死ね!社会に出るな無能!」社会に出てた母親が死亡


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清掃員差別視聴者のほとんどが清掃員

「婆さん死ね!アンチは婆さん!」婆さん死亡

Just found this funny shit

>>16354694
she had monetization turned on

>>16354736
Shut up burgers you made japs adhere to the tipping system with Super Chats, something that didn't even exist in their society, but now that they're doing something actually exists you go there criticize?

>>16354481
They're both still milking money

>>16354829
did she even care about her grandma? It doesn't seem that way. She likes using her grandma to make money, that's about all. Soulless person

>Grandma died...
>I don't want people to worry...
>So I announced it on Twitter.
>I took a reservation slot at 21:00, made a thumbnail, thought about the summary section...
>But I was so upset that I forgot to turn off the spacha...

>>16354878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edtyKPbCVeU

Her grandma presented Cutie Honey to her which made Chloe who she is today.

>>16354715
Nice self made manifesto with google translate or you have 2 brain functioning cells while translating to Japanese.

>>16354458
>now
For me, it was her first karaoke.

>>16346924
Its baffling to me that people fall for her scams every time. You do realize she is lying to you right. There is no granny

awful cunt

>pink cat threw a minor menhera fit over not getting 500k subs immediately
>smelly orca acted as a turbo numberfag from the get-go and is now milking her grandma's death for superchts

is holoX filled with money-hungry women or are the other ones normal?

>>16354829
>all the SCs in yen
>this is still america's fault
go see a doctor for that asspain you dumb indog, your oshi will never thank you for the monopoly money green superchat

>>16346924
>Kinda based, gotta respect the hustle
Yep. I respect how dedicated she is to the grift. Ayame would be proud.

>>16355270
Why didnt you listen?

>>16355169
Japs could read it tho

>>16355461
I have learned my lesson and I will never doubt you, Ogachad.

>>16354538
this was the funniest

If you're going to criticize Chloe for this, you have to also criticize Korone for announcing her break with SCs turned on and doing a member stream afterwards.

>>16355366
>They get comfortable with just getting the bare-minimum for being part of Hololive
>Oh fuck those lazy bitches!
>She tries to go beyond what she thinks she's going to get so she can challenge herself
>Menhera bitch is ungrateful to the achievment of past members!
Nobody understands Koyori, or more accurately yet, they purposely try to misrepresent.

>>16355461
What did Oga say?

>itt: a prostitue is not a whore, men are the ones in the wrong for paying
im glad to see you are all embracing the future cuckold and raising your wifes little jamal

>>16355746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INN0m6FfZaY
They hated him because he said the truth

>>16348263
You’re right she didn’t run with the money, she just took it and left without ever delivering on what people gave her money for. Totally different.

>>16355651
Korone wasn't announcing the death of a human.

>>16355882
True sigma male

>>16355912
what?
spoonfed me, pretty please

>>16356002
already posted >>16355270
She took the money and 1 week later announced her graduation

>>16351707
Why are they not calling her a bitch? What a bunch of faggots is that the maximum toxicity they can reach? They should come on here more maybe they’d learn what actual mental illness is.

>>16355805
A prostitute is a whore, but not necessarily a thief. You still have to willingly give her the money, superchats can't be stolen from you.

>>16356026
seriously??
kek, a true money hungry cunt

>>16354715
>>16355169
>>16355469
Here's a translation
>Jun
>Discriminates against the disabled, blacks, and women -> His viewers are majority mentally disabled
> Viewers: "Die women! Don't get jobs and participate as equals in society, you're worthless!" Jun's mother with a job, dies.

>Hololive
>Discriminates against janitors -> majority of viewers are janitors
[TL note: Nijifags are grannies in JP b/c niji fans are women]
>Viewers: "Grannies die! Antis are grannies!" Chloe's grandma, dies

>>16355882
She's his coworker and he's telling people she's sheisty and not to be trusted,fucking based as hell, you just convinced me to sub to oga

>>16356117 (me)
Oh, I forgot, the JP responses in >>16355469
are
>delete this
>kusa

>>16354030
> Each and every holo’s grandma died while they were in HoloIive
Make sure to wipe the drool off your keyboard

Chloe has already showed herself to be another numberfag, she would milk literally any story if it meant more supas or high view counts.

>>16356957
There is a gigantic difference between numberfagging and outright lying so that you can steal peoples money

This entire thread smells of bitter females

>>16357045
You do realize that is against the law right?
You do realize the implications of what you are trying to claim here right?
Do you really think Cover would let her get away with that if it were true? Dumb shit faggot

Reddit is literally seething at 4chan LMAO

>>16357339
If the rrat about Cover actually believed Kiara is Australian is false then yeah, Cover would not let her get away with it.

>>16356026
That was in 2019 you fucking retard, do your reps if you're going to talk shit

>>16357339
lol what makes you think it’s against the law?

By the way for anyone who believes the SEAnigger who's been posting the exact same lies on /jp/ and here for weeks now Maaru crowdfunded her 3D model in 2019
https://camp-fire.jp/projects/view/192058
then debuted it in 2020
https://playboard.co/en/video/9vN3kQmhPSk
Any idea of her running off with the money comes from the voices in his head

>>16347905
>in the place i live (indonesia
I'm sorry anon, please accept my condolences

>>16347905
kek, no we don't

>>16351707
>757

Sister Claire did the exact same thing but of course nobody shit on her since she isn't hololive

>>16348130
>>16355270
>>16356026
Faggots
>>16357964

No wonder she is my least favorite holo

>>16347169
So you’re telling me the Japanese are as bad as jews?

>>16363489
/vt/ never changes.

>>16363219
DELET!

>>16355461
I'm sorry oga-chad but i've willingly thrown myself into the orca's gaping fangs and enjoying every crushing second of it.

>>16355805
men are the ones in the wrong
have some self control

>>16354943
Holy kek, that's hilarious. Holobronies you certainly deserve her

>>16346924
Based, capitalism wins.

>>16349007
>ripping the soul out of their compan
>hololive
>soul

>>16375764
Say the same thing about Sister Claire

>muh respect
Anyone who makes this argument is a spic, a SEAnig or s chink. Because they're the three big culture groups that have a moral system built on honor/shame. They're also nasty people who would do crime if they could get away with it.

linking for prosperity
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/s2y0mn/chloe_will_be_taking_a_short_hiatus_due_to_family/hsh7va3/

>>16353627
She's a nun. They literally collect donations for a living.

>>16351707
If they're angry Chloe is taking a week off for her Grandma what do they think of Sana taking a month for her dog?

>>16355461
Let's not forget what Mr.Koro said as well.

>>16381084
>They literally collect donations for a living.
Are all vtubers nuns?

>>16381326
Vtubers are vestal virgins, yes.