/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>16377174
Actual previous thread: >>16362592

Today's superchats

>>16377243

No one's beaten Pewdiepie yet today. Kiara has gold for now.

>>16377243
>more than 10k for dead grandma
holy shit

>no EN streams again during primetime
>3 EN streams overlapping 2 hours from now
Feels HoloEN

>>16377471
will he beat pewds or does the EN Cull come into effect?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maj5jV6Jclo

Seems like Youtube is breaking embedding fo some users
https://twitter.com/holodex/status/1481688996627435520

>>16377597
I don't watch HoloEN, is this really normal for them? If so, their manager should be sacked.

>>16377684
yeah NijiStreams are imposibleto watch embed

>>16377243
>￥50,000: CHLOE YOUR GRANDMA IS DEAD LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>16377697
>is this really normal for them
yes
no gura no primetime stream

Winners of the day

#01 Chloe (Hololive) 39.2k
#02 Korone (Hololive) 48.1k
#03 Pekora (Hololive) 59.7k
#04 Nijisanji (Nijisanji) 14k
#05 Toya (Nijisanji) 19.7k
#06 Yashiro (Nijisanji) 20.6k
#07 Towa (Hololive) 37.5k
#08 Nijisanji (Nijisanji) 43.1k
#09 Gura (Hololive) 50.9k
#10 Gura (Hololive) 21.1k
#11 Pekora (Hololive) 37.3k
#12 Pekora (Hololive) 136.1k
#13 Shibuya Hal (Merise) 88.4k

>>16377597
I find it funny that JPs stream on different hours while living on the same timezone. Meanwhile, ENs only have the same time to stream.

>>16377697
The minimum is only 3 streams per week, this is intend to be a side job

>>16377788
>t. threadreader
Watch streams retard

So Ch*rlie just uploaded a video about youtube short content monetization. Might be of interest for you guys

YT shorts really gives shit money huh. 5.8M views only gives you $24

>>16377915
>The minimum is only 3 streams per week
Sana didn't stream for 9 days and it wasn't an announced hiatus.
There's no stream quota for any Holo.

>>16377997
LMAO

>>16377951
>>16377997
Isn't he technically breaking ToS by doing that

>>16378012
That's because she's a bottom tof the barrel Holo, mid to high tier ones are probably gonna be pressured by management to stream.

>>16377951
>>16377997
obviously shorts are good only for marketig but you aint gonna watch a short where the add is longer than the video itself.

Clussy...

>>16378050
>mid to high tier ones
Aqua, Shion, Ayame...etc. There's no evidence of any Holos being pushed to stream more in any branch.

>>16378077
wait, she surpassed the panda already?

>>16377951
There is nothing new. Longer videos (+view retention) means more money, so of course some 10 sec short isnt going to earn much.

>>16378144
Yep >>16362944

>>16377745
It's too bad because I think Irys Skyrim could have been 10k without overlap.
Now, we're likely going to get 3 5-7k streams tonight.
RE7 DLC was pretty bad for numbers for even top tier HoloJPs.

>>16378184
Really makes me wonder how much money long streams make.
Watame/Kiara length of streams.

>>16378026
He is, but he probably got permission to do it.

Every time I hear him, I keep thinking that he is the male version of Shoe0nHead.

>>16378209
damn

>>16378144
Kinda ironic she passed Sasaki announcing the death of relative while Sasaki didn’t turn on superchat for hers

Lamy 10k get!

>>16378352
that's why she lose

>>16378400
Damn, Lamy might have gotten a 10k median this month if it weren't for CCV.
Ark/Minecraft in hours where no one else streams is free numbers.

>>16378352
Winner's mentality vs. Loser's mentality. I KNEEL to the smelly orca!!

IRyS has caught up with Luna recently after having trailed at a distance behind her for a long time, Chloe, Laplus, Hetto and Kronii have been moving up as usual but Kronii seems to have slowed down the most, Ange has gotten closer to Risu, Ironmouse and Nux have been moving up a bit recently, Star VTuber has seen a huge recent rise because of her duck song, and Koyori has finally entered the top 100, with Iroha probably getting in soon some time this week.
A little bit farther outside the top 100, HoloEN official channel, Bae, Fauna and Lui are moving up slowly but steadily.

>>16377788
thats a funny way to say that you dont know shit about hololive

>>16378524
I'm hearing nothing but good things about IRyS' EP so maybe she is getting a nice boost from that.

>>16378246
Well one twitch streamer i watch says his vod reupload channel has earned multiple times over what his old channel did. His old channel consisted of one 8min vid every week or two that would get 200-400k views and his new vod one is 3 vids a week with 20-40k views each. Idk the exact numbers but that old channel is like 8 yrs old and his new one is probably going on 2 yrs.

Yet more reminders not to judge long-term SC from monetization streams: Leos got $54k for his, Axia just $16k

>>16378230
Skyrim is debuff game,so no 10K without overlap.

>>16378524
>Koyori has finally entered the top 100, with Iroha probably getting in soon some time this week.
I had no idea Koyori was ever ahead of Iroha, considering how much more popular Iroha seems

>Hetto, Star Vtuber
All these ES vtubers upload clips instead of stream, but are still growing at the same rate as Holos and Nijis.
There might be a lot of annoying management shit to wade through, but I wish HoloEN would do the same and upload more short (~20s) voiceclips.
Every time they've done it, it performs well.
Even Kiara gets 150-200k views on her "Am ___" videos.

>>16377684
Nice, this will gave us better numbers

>>16378807
First time Skyrim is a buff.
It only becomes a debuff as you keep playing more sessions, but even then, it's not a debuff to the extent of something like Frostpunk or a platformer.

>>16377951
Not useful for this thread
What we need are examples of ad revenue for streams

>>16378590
The EP released fairly recently, so if there is anything that would boost her sub rate, that ain't it.

NijiEN collab numbers

>>16379092
Manjisanji.

>>16379092
just reading those stream titles is painful

>>16379115
HoloEN need to hire gamers

>>16379092
Meh

12k total with 7 streamers going. ceiling seems to have increased but not by much.

>>16379115
hololive en tag

>>16379187

holoen gen 3 leaked

>>16378352
The word we use for people like sasaki is LOSERS

>>16379115
Ina mogged?

>>16379092
It's keep talking and nobody explodes, the bomb pov always gets more viewers

>>16379173
>>16377697
Serious question, you guys blast HoloEN for leaving too many timeslots open, but I heard the same thing happened with HoloJP when they only had 10 members.

IIRC, Choco was the one who noticed timelsots not getting used and streaming more.

>>16378855
Koyori left a far better impression in her debut compared to Iroha. However, I do see Iroha overtaking her somewhere down the line in terms of subscribers

>>16379310
1. There was someone actually covering slots
2. Vtubing is an actual side job (or just a pure hobby) back then where there's not a lot of money to be earned
Situation is quite different.

>>16379310
99% of /vt/ weren't watching vtubers back in 2018.
Vtubing also wasn't a full time job back then, it was more of a part time job or hobby.

Owl just move her timeslot lol.

>>16378912
Also depends on the person. I think the game is a minor buff for Fauna because she does a good job of being entertaining while playing it.

>>16379310
Easily fix when they bringing in en gen 3 and 4. Holo jp already got like almost 20 member in 2019.

>>16379310
they need someone that loves streaming.

>>16378590
She slowed down because she took a lot of breaks starting in December. Most streamers gain more subs on days they stream, and it slows to a crawl when you don't. She recently started streaming regularly again.

>>16379754
Too bad that person always ends up being one of the runts (Kiara/Bae?)

>>16379845
Kiara and Bae are good,but they are only 2.NijiEN has 15 people can stream seven times a week.

>>16379707
HoloJP still has 8+ hours a day of dead hours regularly even with 6 gens.

>>16378352
Bully panda got bullied

>>16380059
becasue the holo girls are more busy and have more offwork than niji girls
Quoting Shu
"you guys have more free time than i tought"

>>16380105
People need to fucking sleep anon

>>16380191
So holos don’t care about streaming and NijiEN girls do

>>16380105
Not a lot of point streaming when most of their audience are at school or work though.
EN needs more streamers that actually streams due to their global audience.

>>16380191
They don't have to sing or dance like the JP girls do, what could they possibly be doing

>>16380319
Euros dont watch shit and only leaves burgers and asia as markets.

>>16380286
NijiEN needs to pay Anycolor that ad money for their songs back, please understand

>>16380319
the same applies to EN, esp when their primary donating audience is US, by a huge margin.

Kiara got good numbers but her chat speed seemed awfully high though she was baiting a bit. And god those KR superchats. There’s definitely a market there. Even an EN who was bingual and who streamed KR prime time could solidify their hold without the risk of an entire branch

>>16379115
God those numbers are putrid. At least it gives me pride as an American that the great United States of America rejected Nijishitty outright. Hopefully they all fuck off to SEA time where they belong.

>>16380378
covers, voice work, videos, collabs with jp,etc.
They also have more meetings as the girls are more involved in their merch, outfits and all other process from cover.
not sure what is the debate here, the holos get more views,merch and stuff officially but also have to do more work offline.

>>16380398
I’m actually shocked how terrible EU views, ccv, and superchats are. They are economically huge and they definitely have weebs. Is it language? A cultural thing? Aside from where it overlaps Spanish language streamers it might as well not exist

>>16380191
>holo girls are more busy and have more offwork than niji girls
While true, it's undeniable that NijiENs put in way more total hours in streaming than HoloENs.
If you follow both sides on twitter and other social media, NijiEN is also a lot more active whereas HoloENs often ghost their accounts until something big is happening.
There's a lot of stuff we don't see from HoloEN girls that they spend time on (Gura aside, Ame goes radio silent sometimes so we don't know if she's just being a potato or if she's working on VRchat kino), whereas NijiEN feels like they're more open and transparent about their daily ongoings.
This builds up resentment and feeds into the "HoloEN is lazy" rrat.

>>16380508
is mostly language

Anyway 3.3k waiting for irys
probably her usual 6k stream like alwasy

>>16379346
I bet Koyori is going to incline from 35p following her. She was one of the only ones who called into Miko's stream yesterday and 35p are super protective and defensive of Miko. They will boost Koyori as thanks for making Miko feel better.

>>16380319
EN needs more streamers and different games.

>>16379062
Man, I'm listening to it now...
Fuck, like again, who the hell chose Sparks of Joy for an MV? It's so meh compared to many of the songs on this EP. Someone needs to smack whoever's in charge of marketing Project Hope.

>>16380475
I think it’s under appreciated how fundamentally different HoloEN and NijiEN are different despite using the same language. Gura Mori and Ame are full on American born and raised white girls which has a different impact than English speaking Asians for good and Ill

>>16380573
It was supposed to be release 1-2 months earlier.

>>16380480
NijiENs are also working on those things. I don’t get what your point is

>>16380619
Most of NijiEN feel like zoomers and HoloEN feel like millennials.

>>16380573
I swear Cover management is baffling. See: Suisei before and during her transfer to Hololive. She clawed her way to significance and is now one of their top talents but they were not doing her any favors for a long time

>>16380623
Fak, must have missed when she said it, thanks.
>>16380683
Some parts of their management are good, but others...
Well, HOPEFULLY things sort themselves out eventually.

>>16380573
Same

I actually enjoy Sparks of Joy because its upbeat and gets me grooving, but every single song on the EP is monumentally better. The EP is seriously great so hopefully it gets IRyS' music some more attention.

>>16380567
>different games.
Please suggest some games for HoloEN to play that aren't numbers poison.
NijiEN is proof that kino games =/= good numbers. If anything, most of the time it's the opposite.

>>16380675
Most of HoloEN had a longer internet history than NijiEN girls, so you're probably right.

>>16380822
Minecraft.

>>16380546
well yeah but cant have the girls revealing all their proyects i agree that it makes them TO US seem lazy but is far from the true.
The thing with nijiEn girls is that they never do something big or original in comaprision to hololive, the only time they ever did it was with the nijisanji express and that was after ame made all models and the vrchat space public already.
There is no tourneys organized between them, they wont get new outfits until who knows so are in no meetings with their papas and mamas , no group songs after the debut ones or duets,etc. Ame has a cover and another one in the works already. But i think is becasue the nijien branch just lacks the money.

>>16380573
She had been talking about Sparks of Joy (without naming it) sinec October. I took them that long to get an MV for it and then dropped it on her with one day notice and no hype.

>>16380619
Very good point.

Pretty much all of HoloEN is based in or was raised in North America (USA/Canada) while NijiEN is heavily SEA/other places in Asia.

The only HoloENs who don't have a North American base are Sana, Kiara, and Bae and they are 3 of the less popular ones.

That reminds me. Did Selen finally beat Sana CCV?

>>16380480
Calli has more songs than every other EN combined.Just face it. Most of EN are lazy streamers.

>>16380907
Yeah, that's why it's always a dumb rrat that EN is lazy.
However, I do think the social media ghosting for days gets pretty annoying.
Like it's really not that hard to do a daily tweet for something inconsequential to remind people you're still alive.

>>16381034
no

>>16380884
They already play it, and are probably burnt out for a while because of the rush of both building the JP-EN connection area and the Sportsfest.
Streamers not having fun playing stuff they are burnt out on is poison to numbers.

>>16381050
Mori is a workaholic that has to have her manager bonk her to get her to stop and rest.

>>16380640
Bro, they can't even get new outfits, and they took too long to release lackluster merch.

They're not as busy behind the scenes as HoloEN girls because Niji treats them as a side branch with very little projects to show for.

>>16380907
They had that one mario kart tournament iirc.
Enna is the only one to release a song post-debut, songs a pretty expensive to make and it's not like they can do them as vanity projects since they don't know what their income source will look in the months to come when more waves debut.

>>16380907
Speaking of NijiEN, how many cover or original songs are already released?

>>16381009
>NijiEN is heavily SEA/other places in Asia.
What the fuck?
Before Luxiem, most of NijiEN was in Canada/US. Petra was the only one that was in Asia.

>>16380907
>never do something big or original in comaprision to hololive
It’s ok to admit you don’t watch their streams.
Also Petra has talked about doing multiple covers with out her members

>>16381119
The minecraft suggestion was obviously a joke.

That said, they need a new long term sandbox collab game to build new storylines.

>>16381138
Basically all of wave 3

>>16381138
The implication is they were SEA that migrated to Canada.

>>16381181
You already know the answer to what that game probably will be.
Dread it, Fear it, The ARK arc is upon us.

>>16381181
>new long term sandbox collab game to build new storylines.
ARK

>>16381138
>>16381229
They're more likely Flip migrants that came to Canada. Flips are very fluent in English and Canada is a top destination to become an overseas worker.

>>16381226
You know Millie/Reimu/Enna are all from Canada right?
There's a reason why Ethyria was joked as the fake multicultural wave.
>>16381229
By that logic, Ina and Kronii aren't based in Canada either.

>>16381130
Who cares about costumes and merch when NijiEN already mogs HoloEN in SCs and CCV without it
I'd say NijiEN is even more of a success than HoloEN since they don't need to invest even more into new costumes/merch since people are willing to watch and SC them even without it.

>>16381229
I’d argue even a second gen like Ina has a different vibe than say Ame.

>>16381323
>By that logic, Ina and Kronii aren't based in Canada either.
No one is saying they are though. The comparison is with Mori/Gura/Ame being NA.

>Lamy single-handedly mogging all of NijiEN during EN primetime
Is this supposed to be normal? Are we sure NijiEN isn't still hit by CCVID?

>>16381399
So basically white vs non-white?
That's retarded, but in that case no one in NijiEN is NA.

>>16381325
Only Mysta.

Manjisanji! I kneel! Selen who? Pomu who?

>>16381133
was the tournament oranized by them? i dont recall it.
>>16381071
the reach of the girls is different so it makes sense they are more reserved. But i agree it wouldn't hurt.
>>16381133
yeah like i said is a money thing, holos get more money and have to spend it on their proyects they need to work on.
Pomu asmr was done with 2 normals mics, fauna is getting a ku100 next month. Bae pushed a halloween cover, ame a christmas one and both kroni and mumei have an original coming this month with MVs. And originals are far harder than covers.

>>16381323
Reimu and Enna can barely speak english and sound ESL as fuck. If they live in Canada they certainly weren't born there unlike Ina and Kronii.

>>16381455
I mean, there's obviously a difference in how their family raised them, even if they were in America/Canada. Thus difference in behavior that can lead to differences in appeal.

Unless they're like 3rd generation or more.

>>16381440
Lamy mogs HoloEN sometimes. She's kinda weird by the fact that she's inclining with barely any EOP audience

>>16381137
4 debut songs
2 Elira solo covers
Elira duet with a Niji KR
2 Petra covers
Millie cover
Enna’s song
Both Elira and Finana sang original songs for Nijisanji
Luca is currently working on a Mafia cover
Petra and Pomu have also talked about more covers coming soon

>>16381557
The Koreans say that Kronii sounds like she was a born and raised a leaf judging by her Korean accent.

>>16381399
Well,Nijisanji is owned by China,
they cant hire NA streamer.

>>16381606
My bad Elira only has one solo cover

https://youtu.be/MVxzuE392n4?t=53

YouTube Shorts Earnings

>>16381775
so why is nina betting on this shit?

>>16381796
Clips and shorts are a good way to get noticed by people and the algo.

>>16381871
I doubt Nina alone can overpower Hololive algo dominance. Might actually funnel tourists into the Hololive clip ecosystem.

So is it true that NijiEN males are way more successful than NijiEN girls?

>>16380546
I'm assuming Gura and Ina is doing something related to Aqua sololive but yea, people underestimate the things those girls do behind the scenes.

>>16381919
That's still a good gamble and payout when you get noticed. Clips don't take a lot of time and effort to make.

>>16381961
Heck, NijiEN males are way more successful (proportionally) to the Holos

>>16381961
Yes, Mysta alone mogs all of NijiEN girls. Although it's important to know that most of Mysta's audience are non paying SEAniggers.

>16381325
>reverse merch cope
Goddamn the mental gymnastics.
>>16381440
Low bar.

>>16381796
Going viral => more viewers/subs => more sponsorships
We can numberfag adsense on VODs or SCs as much as we want, but for corpo vtubers, sponsors and merch are always going to be main sources of money.

Slightly related, but Mori once said music makes up a very small part of her revenue stream and sometimes she doesn't even make a profit (after spending money on making music/MVs...etc).
She's willing to keep doing it because music is her passion and she's thankful that streaming allows her to make music even if it makes no money.

>>16382037

>(proportionally)

>>16380475
That is very true.

>>16382051
yeah the males arent making big bucks

>>16382037
When HoloENs had the same subcount as Luxiem now, they were averaging 20k (40k+ in Gura's case) if you want to get proportional about it.

>>16381477
Money will always be a factor, no one knows how reliable their income source is in NijiEN, not to mention they're going to get raped in taxes this year so I hope they didn't spend all their money.
>>16382086
Anon, multiple NijiEN have gone viral before and they haven't been able to retain viewers from it. Hell, pulling 15k~ vod views (Elira/Petra latest sponsor) compared to Holos pulling 100k+ (Bae/Kronii/Ina latest sponsor) tells me that most of their fans won't bother with watching a shill stream. I think Selen was the only one who had the best retention rate with her shill stream.

>>16382086
They can't bet going viral using normie shit. Holos gets viral on mostly unintentional shit like the Hi Honey. She's literally saying anything that could get her to viral but it doesn't work like that.

Even bomb POV can't help Elira catch up to Luca, who is a distant 3rd in Luxiem.

When Kiara and Bae played this game, they both had identical peaks from the audience moving between streams.

>>16382037
I don't think being watched by SEAnigs can be classified as a "success"

>>16381961
Also noticed that holo id is beating niji en??

>>16382293
what you mean you cant go viral by these tasty kind of posts?
https://twitter.com/Mysta_Rias/status/1481449989431832577

>>16382226
Stop kicking their corpses, anon. They just celebrated their 3rd solo 10k

took irys 5min to recvoer her 3.3k waiting room
took mumei 10min to recover her 3.1k wiating room

just an update

>>16382293
You can't bet on going viral period. No one knows how to get get viral- people just do.

You can do the most algorithm-friendly content ever and be the most talented person and still not go viral, while some retard in a backwards South Ease Asian country will butcher a Transformer's name and get millions of views

>>16382274
To be fair, Elira and Petra had a sponsor for Alchemy Stars (even only Kuzuha got 8k viewers for his shill stream on this IIRC) and not games like Blue Archive and Proseka

>>16382415
He's pretty smart about it. Do as much buff stream as possible while King/Kanae are busy and hope to get new audience.

>>16382293
Clearly some people are better than others at making viral content (Ame vs Kiara for example), but the only way to maximize your chances is to keep trying.

Mysta is really really good at it.

>>16382493
Mysta is numberfag.

>>16382226
Now they can't even get 1% of their subs to watch them. How the mighty HoloEN have fallen.

>>16382293
I still cringe thinking about that disaster of a prop hunt collab where all the girls introduced themselves and did the "Hi Honey" thing.

>>16382493
You're giving him too much credit.

>>16382542
Point out one vtuber that streams that doesn't have dead subs.

Speaking of meme, clip and viral, 2snack got another rival. A lot of potentail on this one.

>>16382452
Gura knows how to do it. Or maybe it's just her being lucky.

>>16382407
My god, words can't describe how much I hate everything about the culture they bring to vtubing. Not even shit posting but it really makes me appreciate Hololive that much more and how downright professional they are in comparison.

>>16382649
*potential

Since the NijiEN males are clearly more successful than the girls, do you think they will get fan animations that can rival the Hololive fan animations in views?

>>16382407
No tribal shit since I'm a holofan, but Mysta's twitter game is insanely strong.
He gets better engagement numbers than everyone in Council despite having half the followers (He's only at 180k) and matches Myth's numbers sometimes.

On the other hand, Irys has almost 500k followers and her twitter game is so weak.
Getting only 6k likes on an EP announcement is just depressing.

>>16382649
Youtube have been shoving me this shit a lot today.

>>16382694
Interesting that small time streamers instinctively tries to use degenerate humor to try and gain views. Why is that?

>>16382723
They have this https://youtu.be/7c6WqV0OvsE

>>16382629
The NijiENs have the best subs to viewer ratios.

>>16382681
She's pretty big in the Vtuber/Anime community, but she hasn't broken into the mainstream like Korone's Eekum Bokum or Subaru's Dancing Duck has.

So I wouldn't personally consider Gura "viral"

>>16382758
Anon, Nijisanji has a twitter topic. Their tweets constantly get shoved into my timeline even though I don't follow them.
Just like NijiJP can tweet random shit, get 20k likes but no one goes to their stream.

>>16382758
that is just twitter he gets most than most jp holo but ti doesnt tranalte to views.

>>16382694
SEA women eats that shit up for breakfast, so whatever works.
>16382800
and this lad lives under a rock.

>>16382812
>ti doesnt tranalte to views.
I mean, it kinda is translating into views right now.
He's had 3 10k streams in a row, which is huge overperformance for a NijiEN with 160k subs.

>>16382780
becasue they try to differntiate themselves from corpos specially hololive, but it makes them all act the same at the end of the day.
Sex sells and if the competition wont do it might as well try it.

>>16382850
Show me a video about Gura on LIMC then. That's the lowest bar of virality and breaking into the mainstream. Everything else is "you wouldn't understand unless you're in" category

>>16382800
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBmpMMkXz6Y
This has way more views than Eekum Bokum in a shorter time period.

Also, the Forsen memes.

>>16382800
????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBmpMMkXz6Y

>>16382804
>Nijisanji has a twitter topic.
If the nijisanji twitter topic is why Mysta's tweets perform so well, then everyone in NijiEN would also be getting these numbers, but they aren't.

The topic pushes 2k view NijiJP tweets before they get to NijiEN tweets. (I also get NijiJP tweets shoved on my timeline)

>get 20k likes but no one goes to their stream.
Yeah, but we're talking about Mysta rn and he's more likely to get 10k these days than get below 5k.

>>16382947
That's more to do with the virality of the Dancing Ankha meme than Gura herself.

Forsen memes are also too in the nose and no one would understand unless they were in the Vtubing community and the streaming community

>>16382037
>ratio cope

>>16382862
it doesnt invalidate all the niji jp that have betetr twitter game also he barely scratched 10k today WITH GENSHIN.
not undermining mysta views but his twitter game makes no difference on his youtube live views or vod views.
he has a 3 hours 9k stream and still ended up with less views than korni and ina sponsorship that lasted 2hrs.

>>16382780
NijiEN talents do it all the time especially on Twitter. I really don't understand how that could help them gain more viewers though.

>>16382800
>she hasn't broken into the mainstream like Korone's Eekum Bokum or Subaru's Dancing Duck has.
>So I wouldn't personally consider Gura "viral"
Somehow in a thread filled with bait and misinformation, this post ends up being the most retarded.

>>16382862
Holostars had more than three 10k streams with lesser subs.

>>16382472
>Proseka
Uhhh, didn't Pomu and Elira get sponsored for ProSeka too? Although I'm not aware if either of them are big fans of either Miku (ie: Ina) or rhythm games (ie: Gura) so I don't know if their audiences are appropriate for ProSeka in the first place.

>>16383041
>he barely scratched 10k today WITH GENSHIN.
Guy, where have you been this past 2 days? We've seen the resurgence of CCVID after Pekora's 3D live.

Mysta should have had 25k CCV based on his like ratio and messages per minute if Susan didn't fuck up the algorithm again .

>>16383070
He deliberately stated sub to viewer ratios in the very same post so you should know how seriously you should take him.
Which is not at all.
>>16383155
And this is why no one takes this thread seriously.

>>16383070
Viral memes break into the mainstream, that even normies who don't spend 20 hours per day on Tiktok and Youtube know about them.
Gura doesn't have that, therefore she has never been viral

>>16383105
I know Elira did. She a huge Vocaloid fan and probably attracts them too. I was just saying that an Alchemy Stars sponsor shouldn’t be compared to Blue Archive and Proseka

>>16383005
Blame NijiEN for being shit. They have a Twitter topic but still couldn't deliver. They belong to the largest vtubing company and yet couldn't break 2k CCVs consistently. If they had Holo's management capabilities, they would have already surpassed Vshojo by now.

>>16383041
>his twitter game makes no difference on his youtube live views or vod views.
I actually disagree, it's the thing that's separating him from the rest of Luxiem and NijiEN.
Someone with his current subcount and following has NO business being in 10k range.

>barely scratched 10k today WITH GENSHIN.
You make it sound like every NijiEN has gotten 10k with Genshin when he's the only one who has gotten close.
Vox was the Genshin hype dude and he only got 6k.

>he has a 3 hours 9k stream and still ended up with less views than korni and ina sponsorship that lasted 2hrs.
You're comparing him to vtubers with followers much much bigger than him.
I'm comparing him to his peers (NijiEN) and there's clearly something that's separating him from the rest of the pack.

>>16383086
kek Stars 3D debut is a freebie and idk what to tell you if you think Mysta will never get a 10k stream again.

>>16383105
Sponsored streams.

>>16382452
This sound like there is a story behind this. This happened to you didn’t it?

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>Rightful sovereignty
>Ichikara has morals
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Nijisanji has a better following than Hololive in the west
>There are no nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>Views don't matter
>only the west speaks english
>outfit reveals don't count
>look at the Twitter interaction
>Fake numbers
>R-r-relays don't count because I say so
>Pokemon doesn't count
>20 hololive merchs
>We're losing? Better start telling blatant lies
>Luxiem is five Mystas

>>16383327
All I'm saying is getting 10k isn't particularly difficult nor special. VSPO could also do that and even some indies too while having less subs than NijiEN.

>>16383337
yikes, those views are abysmal.

>>16383327
>I actually disagree, it's the thing that's separating him from the rest of Luxiem and NijiEN.
it doesnt, his twitter game was stronger at launch and yet he wasnt getting 10k. his content and timing is what got him 10k those 2 streams.
>You make it sound like every NijiEN has gotten 10k with Genshin when he's the only one who has gotten close.
i make it sound like genshin first try or gacha is a BUFF. lize got 20k today with it.
>You're comparing him to vtubers with followers much much bigger than him.
exaclty my point, the twitter engagement barely matters.
>I'm comparing him to his peers (NijiEN)
thats like me comparing gura to sana is a dumb comparison.

>>16383337
Damn, Holo clippers are way more competent than these Niji girls.

>>16383337
Damn Ina by herself almost had x4 the views as all 3. No wonder hololive can just spread the sponsors around, wonder if Niji will do the same once the sponsors only want the boys.

>>16383027
You replace Gura with Pomu and the meme won't work.

>gura never went viral

>>16383337
10x difference. NijiEN girls are a failure. Not the Nijimales though. They're kneel worthy.

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>Rightful sovereignty
>Ichikara has morals
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Nijisanji has a better following than Hololive in the west
>There are no nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>Views don't matter
>only the west speaks english
>outfit reveals don't count
>look at the Twitter interaction
>Fake numbers
>R-r-relays don't count because I say so
>Pokemon doesn't count
>20 hololive merchs
>We're losing? Better start telling blatant lies
>Luxiem is five Mystas
>Gura didn't go viral

>>16383662
They have a point system in place so the better you perform, the more sponsorships you'll get.

>>16383720
>one guy pulling 10k on buff content is kneel worthy
No.
>but proportionate to Niji EN females
No.

>>16383762
I think the "Gura didn't go viral" guy is an EN-hater actually. Not a Nijifan.

>>16383720
>kneeling to 10k ccv
No

>>16383720
>They're kneel worthy.
Stop watching midgets, anon. They ain't good for your knees.

>>16383337 (me)
Here's all their sponsor streams that are listed on playboard.
Top one is a 4 person collab (Petra/Finana/Nina/Rosemi) punishment game quiz.

>>16383720
You are the reason why we don't do grading by curve around here

>>16382787
The contrast between that and this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaYuzFCXKjk

>>16383857
All worse than Sana Kek.

i see today is debuff overlap content for holoEN
re7dlc, zoo planet after like 1month, irys is doing ok but we have saw already like 3 skyrim streams.

>>16383857
These girls really impeded their branch's growth by almost three years.

>>16380683
That was INNK management, entirely different management from Hololive. And now Suisei worked her manager to death kek.
>>16381133
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD6-Jjovz-o
194k after 4 months
>>16381606
>2 Petra covers
phony and?

>>16379092
>>16379115
And just like that, the girls are sent to irrelevancy... again

>>16383857
Wow my oshi Irys Another Eden vods dont look as bad in comparison, thanks bro.

https://youtu.be/_Ym7NUYI5gE

>>16384007
phony and?
she has a nother with art from some guy that traced others people work

>>16379187
Unironically I just got an ad of her

>>16380683
The fact that Cover recognized Suisei's talents while Anycolor rejected her makes them more competent in retrospect.

I am just gonna point out all of mysta's streams are new game buffs except gtav where the vod views already dropped by half. I honestly think mysta is just slightly higher than vox considering vox don't spam new games every stream.

Aqua guerilla minecraft in 10 minutes

>>16384034
They should just move to Twitch and become thots like VShojo, seems to work out extremely well for them.

>>16384229
>israel
what the fuck

>>16384163
Nah, Anykara can collect as many talented members into their ranks, but they aren't gonna get big. Examples of this are Toko, Chima, Aiba, Furen, Nui etc.

>Joining because the culture fits them
I don't get this part. Is Nijisanji too lax because they aren't doing anything too different than Holos and they get paid much lower than a low tier Holo. Heck, Luna joined Hololive, almost reaching $500k and gets a healthy 4-5k ccv

>>16384229
Guerilla at this timeslot? Sounds stupid, but I guess she can't help it.

>>16381919
I works for indies and small corpos Yuuka Bear, Nene Amano, Emma (Cyberlive 2nd gen), Kamiya Juu, HORI (MyHoloTv)

>>16383684
Again, show me a video featuring any Gura memes on LIMC. I'll wait.

>>16384540
What the fuck is limc?

Will NijiEN have an ochame kinou tier song? HoloEN already got 2.2k in 3 weeks in comparison to Luxiem's song that got 1.7M with ads on

>>16384474
Also works for that one Ashida Channel who amasses gets 1-2 million views for her shorts (and only her shorts)

>>16384364
Nijisanji talents are free to get themselves into deep shit out of stupidity if they want to. Almost no restrictions with who they can collab with and aren't forced to collab with anyone.
Hololive talents are controlled in how they act to an extent. Each girl pretty much has their own brand they maintain. There's also the expectation to maintain the "family" image (although I think the people who get accepted already want this to begin with).

>>16384737 (me)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZGPTJouVYE
Forgot to post link.
109k subs
close to 10k average for regular streams
1 million views for her Shorts

>>16382629
Jun-sama

>>16383720
5 Mystas

>>16384671
Lessons in Meme Culture?
I mean I dunno man, sounds like cope to arbitratily assign that as the bar.
>>16384724
Anon...
Your number reps...
2 weeks, 2.6m for HoloEN Ochame Kinou.

>>16384671
>LIMC
>Less subs than Matsuri
>The same VODs per upload as Gura
>He thinks they're relevant.

>>16384746
Ogey

>>16384540
>LIMC
>have to look this up, lesson in meme culture
>1.01 million subs
Lol, are you for real?

>>16384863
>Lessons in Meme Culture?
>I mean I dunno man, sounds like cope to arbitratily assign that as the bar.
It is. It literally has less than half the subs Gura has. He just wants to disregard Gura's virality. Probably a salty JP tard.

>>16384229
We need our nijikiller back,not idol.

>>16384540
This guy has to be a shill I swear

>>16384911
She retired from her Nijikiller days anon. Her coworkers can now pick up the slack in her stead.

>>16384863
>>16384865
What the fuck I thought it was some American TV show or some shit, its literally a less popular knockoff of know your meme, who the fuck uses that as a benchmark?

>800 watchers
>over 1600 votes in seven minutes

>>16384907
Any Holofan would be aware of how viral is Gura. Don't lump me with the likes of him.

>>16384982
Tweet it at youtube

>>16384746
>Nijisanji talents are free to get themselves into deep shit out of stupidity if they want to. Almost no restrictions with who they can collab with and aren't forced to collab with anyo
You say that as if it was a good thing.

>>16384886
>>16384865
>>16384863
It's the lowest bar to know a meme has hit the mainstream.
If it doesn't get featured there, then it means the meme isn't in the public consciousness yet.

I mean, we could use being featured in Ellen or Family guy as a bar, but those are too high.

>>16384982
I swear this is the third time she used that title for this type of stream.

>>16385072
LIMC isn't even mainstream lol.

>>16384982
That's why NijiEN gets "a lot" of SCs. God damn.
>>16385072
>you have to be featured on this channel to be considered as mainstream
Said no one ever. Except for you maybe.

Do we really have an LIMC schizo here?

>>16384540
>Checks latest video
>Detroit Survival Guy
Stop shilling your channel LIMC you live under a fucking rock

>>16385072
Literally nobody has heard of limc until you started shilling it here, now how much money are they paying you to shill them?

The fact that people here need to look up what limc is proves that it isn't mainstream or popular at all kek.

Swap LIMC with YouTube Japan and it suddenly sounds familiar.

>>16384982
>Mio PFP
>10 Akasupas
>for Petra
Wow.

>>16385048
I'm not say it's good or bad, just a rationale.
I bet you Ollie really wishes she had the freedom of a Niji with the popularity of a Holo.
>>16385156
The Niji girls bait really hard. I still remember that one Rosemi stream where she went to the gym and other places and only started getting donations as she started telling sob stories.

man holo clipping scene is too strong

>>16385316
How do we defeat them Nijibros?

>>16385072
Killing this fag with this.

>>16385275
I have seen that user everywhere and superchatting every holo event streams. Guy is a legit oil king.

I swear to god if loic starts showing up in my recs I'm killing all of you

>>16385275
Ookami-kun is such a whore, but he akasupas to my oshi as well so I'll let this pass

>>16377915
why isn't it a side job for JPs or twitch streamers

>>16385420
1. People don't want to be under a company
2. You don't control what they do with your character/brand vs you being the brand.

>>16385420
>why isn't it a side job for JPs

>>16385316
Is this worldwide?
Looking at YT (JP) Gaming's trending we have Nose at number 1 kek
Hal's CR team at 7 and Legend of Polka at 13
It's practically filled with vtubers

>>16384746
>Nijisanji talents are free to get themselves into deep shit out of stupidity if they want to
You don't actually believe this, do you?

>>16385492 (me)
>Is this worldwide
You didn't see that.

>>16385492
JP. iirc only risu's nnn trended worldwide lol

>>16384746
>and aren't forced to collab with anyone.
Niji are the one that forcing collabs newfag-kun. Holo never forced collabs, not even the sponsored ones since the girls has the freedom to reject or pass it on
>Each girl pretty much has their own brand they maintain
I think this is the biggest difference. Most nijilivers has this vibe that they just there to "hang out". Only fews has this self-branding mentality and they are the top ones (top 20 at least). While Hologirls mostly keep their selfbranding first and prioritize theirs and the their own fanbase firs over the whole franchise or other girls.

>>16385581
Treerat, I kneel!

Aqua 10K in 15min,
She still has it.

>>16385177
Hence why it's the lowest bar for virality

Pretty fast 10k for a morning guerrilla.

So how's the KING's numbers without the CCVID?

Aqua and Lamy leading this timeslot by far, jeez

>>16385644
>>16385626
It's Aqua+Minecraft. Did you guys really think it would be sub 10k?

>>16385626
That's quite slow for her actually.

>>16385663
Still doing his idol reps no data yet.

>>16385604
>Holo never forced collabs,
UmiSea.

>>16385072
Nigga 9gag or ifunny is the lowest bar. Not that literall who knocked off channel

>>16385757

He said on twitter that he is streaming today

>>16385730
To be fair, it's a guerilla morning stream, i was expecting her to stream tonight.

.t aqua crew

>>16385723
Of course she was going to hit 10k, but it's a guerrilla with 30mins notice at an unusual timeslot, wouldn't be weird to have a slow viewers growth.

>>16385757
It's over for NijsanjiJP. NijiEN is the last hope.

>>16385663
>>16385757
>211 hours
>17k avg
king...

>>16385765
That's an opt-in event like Bloom.

>>16385723
Imagining Aqua pick up Apex and league again.That would be over 20K.

>>16385830
Anon this is 2021

>>16385492
>Is this worldwide?
Susan will never allow it

>>16385871

>league

numbers poison

>>16385871
More like RTA to graduation with 300k

>>16385787
Can't wait to put flip brit in his place

>>16385765
Like i said. That was not forced since the girls can always rejected it. Unlike niji when you HAVE to participate when mandated

>>16385663
He hasn't streamed but looking at his CCVID vod views, it seems like he got 17-20k with mahjong.
Nothing insane, but better than any Niji stream in the meantime.

>>16385072
Dumbass

>>16385972
I agree, king needs to assert his dominance again.

>>16385830
>2021
LIMC-kun.... lets get you out of that rock

>>16386047
You're proving his point since his original post was saying Subaru is more viral than Gura because of Shuba duck.
He then used LIMC as evidence of vitality.

He's fucking retarded, but your screenshot doesn't mean what you think it means.

>>16385972
Silverboi falling for idol reps means that he will lose to Mysta in the near future. You heard it here first.

>>16386055
lol. King-who? Oh, you mean silverboi.

>>16386200
Wasn't it Copperlad of late?

>>16386200
Pretty sure Gura has had more Silvers than King lately

>>16386153
Give it a few months. Stop thinking that a couple of 10k+ streams is going to allow Mysta to usurp Kuzuha's throne.

>>16386055
I've wondering about this. Why was Hal called the emperor and Kuzuha only as king

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=378t2IjRHaM

Vtubing is having a breakthrough in KR if this showed up in my recommendation. I assumed this clip is from a recent live they did announcing their anniversary, but I didn't know they were gonna do it in vtuber form kek

>>16386267
Cope.

>>16385830
>2021 Jan
Kuzuha, Miko and Hal have inclined so much since then.
Also, Niji main channel in the top 10 with 20 hours wtf.
Niji Mahjong?

15k for aqua which is usual for her midnight minecraft numbers, 20k for prime time.

>>16386303
I'll rub it all over your face when King streams today and I'm saying this as a Holofag.

>>16382758
NijiEN that trends https://twitter.com/Mysta_Rias/status/1481819963325308929?cxt=HHwWgoCz8frZvZApAAAA

>>16386267
Imagine sleeping on the REAL King.

>>16386336
I think the attention is starting to get into this faggot's head

>>16386327
Kuzuha is reclining, he won't even get 10k. See his last few streams as an example.

>>16386336
MYSTA
I KNEEL...
Not even Gura trends on Twitter...

>>16386373
>expecting anything from a flip

lmao

>>16386373
Those types usually don’t do well once they start losing popularity…

>16386396
Try better bait

>>16386327
>rooting for Kuzuha over Mysta
You're just a /jp/faggot who wants EN to fail, go back

>>16386336
Is the twitter trend schizo here? I need to see where this shit trended

>>16386327
Cope harder last samurai.

>>16386278
Because of his King's cover which is the cover with most views baka.

I'm curious, why isn't NijiEN more popular in Korea when HoloEN was able to get big there?

Is this how last samurais for holo feel? I am becoming a last samurai for nijijp males too.

>>16386336
Well,he cares about number.

>16386396
this is fucking pathetic bait anon, no one believes anyone can be that new

>>16386327
Mysta already stole all of Kuzuha's SEA fanbase. Only a matter of time until he steals the JOPs too.

>>16386278
Because when Apex was hot as shit in Sept 2021, Hal was getting higher peaks during apex tournaments (he's the main POV so duh).
People started shitposting that he's the emperor because he was an indie and he was beating Kuzuha in head to head CCV for apex tournaments.

>>16386453
Even fucking Ollie managed to get popular in KR lol.

>>16386336
>sheesh

Feels like a zoomer kiara desu

i can understand fauna and irys' numbers being this low, but mumei's are pathetic today

Will Nijisanji ever escaping the trapping of having one vtuber propping up an entire brand?

Akutan 16K get

>>16386453
Nijis aren't marketed as idols and Korea is obsessed with idols so Hololive already has the better first impression.

>>16386336
Now that I see his design, no wonder he's popular. He has that type of face that female weebs love. Like Kokichi/Nagito from Danganronpa.

>>16386278
The titles themselves have not rhyme nor rhythm beyond King's being a reference to his cover. The others with nobility titles are based on ranking.

It's all larp from one faggot who got real extra last year and we used them mostly as jokes.

>>16386486
But the important thing is, how can he capture NA market as well? That's the most important place.

>>16386582
Sultan is a reference to lore though.

aqua starting to stabilize around 16-17k, isn't this
a little past lunch time in nipland, kind of a shit slot

>>16386595
EN is a dying market. It's better for Mysta to cater to JP.

>>16386602
>reference to lore
More like blatant racism but okay kek

>>16386556
Fyi, AGDQ is happening to 60k+ people right now.
I'm not saying that there's heavy audience overlap, but there probably is enough to sap some of the casual watchers (this may be cope though. AGDQ goes until the 16th)

If BTS fangirls discover Luxiem, it's over.

>>16386595
USA seems to be HoloEN territory while Canada is where NijiEN has somewhat of a foothold.

>>16386595
He is not streaming at NA time you know.

>>16386659
don't you have a general to post fanfics in

>>16386623
Bitch, we've been waiting for Aqua to do something that isn't an utawaku for ages.
t. Aquacrew

>>16386632
Okay samurai, tell that to the thousands

>>16386453
It's all started with Ame accidentally broadcasted on Korean national news because a journalist though she was a real detective investigating a suicide case. Hololive popularity blew up in Korea from that point onward, the irony of it all.
https://youtu.be/0faz0n6fevM

>>16386623
Yes, but it's just more evidence that there are more nips that watch vtubers at any time of the day than there are burgers watching EN vtubers.
Kanata and friends were sleeping on stream to 20k viewers for hours and beating EN all day.

>>16384199
JP Cope.

>>16386396

>>16386668
Even when NijiEN stream at Canada time, they still get peanuts in views.

>>16386486
kek imagine believing this shit. only reason they watch that flip is because the King is doing idol reps

>>16386602
Wasn't Ibrahim supposed to be a oil baron? I am certain that at best, that'd make him a Sheikh.

>>16386713
EN cope.

>>16386659
It's over for NijiEN female because I can see BTS fanbase harass them?

>>16386755
please don't respond to the schizo with facts, it doesn't work, just ignore him

>>16378855
Koyori was ahead of Iroha before Iroha started speeding up, but she's only caught up now. She's still over 10k away and she's slowed down to about the same speed as Koyori.

It's all over bros... Hololive isn't even in the most popular pages and Mysta and Mouse have overtaken Gura...
We now live in the era where Manjisanji and Vshojo are the faces of ENVtubing...

>>16386278
Kuzuha is the King because he's the biggest Male Vtuber
Hal is the Emperor because he's the 2nd highest
Ibrahim is the Sultan because he got Gold level CCV during his Minecraft arc

>>16386772
Kek, it's obviously because fags realize that Mysta is way better than a shitty autistic vampire.

>>16386735
Because vtuber in EN market is still new while JP is used to vtuber for up to 5 years already. Even the biggest ENvtuebr, Nyanners, is only a year old

>>16378590
IRyS new EP is pretty good. Songs mainly in English and seems to be composed specifically to be an English song. Previous songs have felt like they were made for a Jpop song with English lyrics slapped in it.

>>16386827
Doesn't make sense when Emperor is a higher title than King.
>>16386842
Veibae is bigger than that whore cat.

>>16386827
Is Mysta the new prime minister then?

oh, trends schizo is back, i didn't notice for a sec there

>>16386858
Spark of joy

>>16386884
He's God.

>Aqua 18k GET

>>16386556
It was kinda weird desu but looking at her last Planet Zoo stream (though it was suffering a bit from CCVID) it makes sense. Plus overlapping with first time Skyrim playthrough and RE7 finale that's basically a collab, so I won't go to cull cope yet

>>16386731
I guess NijiEN needs to pay someone to do the same thing with Luxiem. I'm pretty sure Korean girls will love them.

Finally some nijijp vs nijien like how it should be.

>>16386976
this is the third time this week I've pulled the wrong image for a post, the fuck is wrong with me

>>16386902
Was done a few months prior to this EP, back in October apparently and was waiting for an MV. That's also a single, not part of this batch of songs for the EP.

>>16386987
HAHAHHA look at the delusion. Why would korean girls even look at luxiem when they have thousands of boygroup in their country.

>>16386935
He is The God Emperor of Mankind, the one who will bring vtuber out of its nicheness. He is the Chosen One, the true one to unite traditional streaming with vtubing.

He will blow pass everyone in sub count, he is the Dream of our beloved vtubing industry.

>>16386987
Anykara already tried shutting down a Korean board and they told them to fuck off, probably left a bad first impression.

>>16386975
what happened to these numbers

>>16387106
The recline of Hololive

>>16387106
aqua reclined extremely hard for not playing games and barely streaming cause of idol reps

>>16387087
Because news flash, NijiEN offers something different than those same-y looking, plastic filled shell of a femboy they call boygroups.

NijiJP and NijiKR can never be compared. Those fucking NijiKR needs to grovel under NijiEN boys' feet.

Considering planet zoo gets lower numbers than mumei's zatsudan, i say it is a number poison like frostpunk.

>>16386735
It's evidence that EN viewers are still disproportionately culled, last samurai

>>16386976
>>16387038
city/park builders seem pretty bad for numbers desu

>>16387143
Nijisanji has been on the incline, but it's thanks to NijiEN and not those pathetic losers in Japan.

>>16386902
The lyrics Sparks of Joy along with the songs in Journey have the problem that they're not structured as traditionally western music. They give the vibe that a person who has never really written western style verse music, easily noted by the irregular rhyme and rhythm that are often misplaced throughout the songs. I'm sure they'll get the hang of it eventually, but at least they're taking a risk step in the direction of producing actual English music.

>>16387106
>Precull numbers
Even if you wanted to make a fair comparison, you can't.

>>16387161
I swear to god, Japanese branch is fucked if it wasn't for NijiEN stirring up interest again.

>>16387091
NijiKR exists. They had a bad impression way before they tried to shut down that board.

>>16387203
NijiEn saves all of Anykara, Takumi KNEELS

>>16386426
>>16386444
>implying
Why are you so butthurt? What's wrong rooting for the original King of this thread?

>>16387192
And the worst part is that she absolutely adores this game too, more than any of her other stream games. Seems like it's mandatory for a HoloEN member to have a pet debuff game

>>16387161
I always knew that EN was better than JP. Now we only need Mysta to prove it. Someone shill him to Korea.

>>16387239
>NijiEN saves NijiJP just like how HoloEN saved HoloJP years ago
kek, pottery