/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

myth is so lazy that kokoro connect left them for nijiEN

Happened to funny minecraft man too

https://twitter.com/kizaki707/status/1483982607100817408

>>16736560
isn't this the dude that gets like 500k ccv sometimes

>>16736554
Good, Gura and Ame did some of the shitties shilling ever, they were saved by Ina and Kiara

>>16736554
Good,i respect nijiEN more.

/myth/ is leaking here huh

>>16735376
Covers is up to the talent themselves and holoX's Ochame Kinou was Koyori's idea. By your logic all holoX should have covers ready for their debut but we know that it's not the case. Anyway both Iroha and Chloe have covers on the way.

>>16736554
This anon enjoys kokoro connecting with cock

>>16736644
he's at around 80k currently

Nijisis still salty?

>>16736788
Nijisharts are perpetually salty

Holonigger still seething at the genuine recline?

Mumei made back her waiting room in 8 minutes.

>muh lazy EN
HoloEN can't even stream properly because management denies them permissions or rejects their ideas, if you watched any streams you'd know how much Cover holds EN back, I don't know why, maybe they're afraid they'd mog JP even harder than they already are

why are anons salty at NijiEN getting good numbers? they're expanding the EN market for vtubers, this is good for the scene

>>16736879
>>16736908
Speak of the devil, kek

Please remember: You don't need to reply to every bit of bait you faggots, things are bad enough around here on a regular day.
Also, ironic shitposting is STILL SHITPOSTING, so if you don't want things to devolve into even more shit, knock it off.

>>16736560
I know it's a bug but it's funny to see Technoblade only has one viewer

Hello, i was told this was the esl containment thread?

not even fucking 20 replies and you fuckers couldn't wait to start your fucking time loops again

>>16736979
Tell me how many games Gura has uncompleted and then you can rightfully complaint at management

>>16736912
More like 10

>>16736998
It's /last samurais/ upset that EN is surpassing JP yet again

Today isn't even a good day to try to push the lazy agenda when i look at the holo schedule. Stop biting baits.

>>16736998
>NijiEN getting good numbers
Do I need to bust out the muffin again?

>Kronii
>Mumei
>Ame
>Lui
>Iofi
>Irys
>Fauna
>Reine
After multiple days of barely any streams and long dead hours, we are getting an 8 holo overlap in the next 2 hours.
Numbers are going to be fucking awful.

>>16737130
>EN is surpassing JP yet again
when? Pretty sure Gura won't make it to the top10 today
hell, every EN will be mogged by Mysta BD

>>16737105
Maybe she doesn't finish them because she doesn't like them and management refuses to let her play games she really likes, genius???

>>16736560
So how the hell did the pajeets fuck up CCV even more while trying to "fix" CCVID this time.

>>16737067
Any KPOP stuff live atm? Would be funny to see the absolute firestorm TeamYoutube gets from them stans.

>>16737208
>making excuses for them
you sure are helping them to get better anon

>>16737206
>Mysta BD
Sure, of course it will do well, unless....

For a numbers board you guys talk very little about numbers.

t.tourist

>>16736680
It doesn’t matter who’s idea is what, if there are pre-made assets prior to even debut then there is likely some assistance from management to get them the connections and whatnot.

Just from memory, Baelz’ song was mixed by Kronii, HoloEN xmas song was rushed out by EN, Mumei had Calli help with lyrics to her song and journey like a thousand years was almost all done by myth, with them talking about just taking the helm. I think you and I can both take a guess and say management has not been helping at all in establishing any ground with connections for EN. Like my point isn’t to be like lol fuck holox, just that management just seems really fucking shitty to deal with.

>>16737152
Hard to imagine this isn't a falseflag when everyone knows Mysta has a birthday stream today and he's going to beat Gura's 12k.

>>16737185
they are collabs with international branches
cant have them all at morning indonesia/jp time.

>>16737313
the biggest stream right now it's fucking polka at 8k, there's absolutely nothing going on so the schizos come out to timeloop

>>16737334
Or maybe different branches have different management and rather than screeching about favouritism maybe people should be pressuring EN management specifically to do more.

>ENsharts want Cover to help them to get better collabs
>Gura can't be bothered to have 1 on 1 collabs with all of council yet
>they will never do their nihongo reps

>>16737355
>He didn't see Mysta's stream yesterday
The tourists moved on Nijinigger. Mysta got beat by a fucking muffin.

>>16737313
Most people don't trust numbers right now and for good reason.
>>16737334
If you did your reps you'd know Koyori and Lui have a fuckton of connections and have been around for a while.

management bad timeloop huh

>>16737496
they can't cope with anything else, it literally can't be Myth or Council's fault and there's nothing management can do

>>16737334
EN management being shit is one of the oldest gripes for a reason.

>12k peak, 19k likes

>>16737355
>Mysta has a birthday stream
Are you serious? He has been active for what? A month? That is fucking shameless.

>>16737334
I didn't even know all these uncredited members. Why does Omega take all the credit and none of the blame?

>>16737574
a ton of nijis do this
and yes it is

>>16737482
Can't wait to see you spam "GURA MOGGED" and "I KNEEL TO MYSTA" later today, muffin anon.

What is with all the shit posting today? A CCV fucked Gura beat like a 7 person Nijinigger collab all by herself. Why are Nijiniggers acting all uppity all of a sudden?

I truly don't understand them. Its like being as annoying and obnoxious as possible is a requirement to become a Nijisanji fan. Its baffling.

>>16737572
Drive by tourists

>>16737574
>nijis are shameless
What a headline, more news at 11.

>>16737334
Some of HoloX's managers are brand new to the company. Don't let their competence be an example of Cover being mean to helpless HoloEN.

>>16736560
Man, it's happening more often isn't it.
We saw it happening on Towa's stream yesterday too.
Fucking YT and their busted CCV.

>>16737482

he is going to absolute mogg gura and you will like it

>>16737685
KNEEL to the muffin Nijinigger

>>16737334
Anonchama, almost everyone in X had been vtuber for years and some were already friendly with existing Holo members.
Gozaru(?) collabed with Subaru a couple years ago as an indie for example.

Nijien streams a lot more yes but

>kiara streams during eu hours
>ina streams during 4 or 5 jst
>only fauna, amelia or gura streams during primetime so when one or two of them goes missing, there is a huge hole there.
>mori, baelz, mumei, irys, kronii all stream during jp primetime or 12-13jst slot.
>sana is a midget so kek

Tldr: everyone loves the 12-13jst timeslot too much and should consider the na primetime slot more or just wait for en3

>>16737688
Half of them are probably nijikeks going along for the ride yes, but the other half are the usual shit stirrers. And people KEEP RESPONDING. JUST IGNORE THE SHITTY BAIT YOU STUPID FUCKS.

Mumei poll incoming.

>>16737688
>A CCV fucked Gura beat like a 7 person Nijinigger collab
That's one way to look at it, but Gura beats big NijiEN collabs for breakfast so it's nothing new. It's more of a surprise if she loses.

The problem is she got one of her lowest peaks ever today and Ame got her worst Apex peak ever.

Mumei poll

>>16737572
almost the same number of likes as her stream yesterday. when it ended
probably a 200k vod when it finishes queuing.

Also mumei doing a poll

>>16737856
Yeah, an absolutely CCV fucked and gimped Gura still beat the Nijiniggers all by herself. That was the point.

>>16737601
They’re definitely credited but you barely hear about anything because hololive, for whatever reason it may be, does not seem to acknowledge it like you’d hope. I’m pretty sure EN are the only ones who’ve actively assisted in assets for Holo too.

Mori with lyrics and video, Kronii with mixing, Ina literally doing official work for hololive (noel and flare merch) and has made the art for 2 cover songs, Sana making the artwork for council

This shit legit just gets swept under the rug and people end up thinking they’re just useless fucks half the time desu

>>16737973
they are also fucked

Mumei's ccv jumped up by 500 when she opened the poll

>>16737842
>everyone loves the 12-13jst timeslot
It's PST prime time. Probably most of HoloEN live on the west coast

>mumei poll
>mumei poll incoming
>Mumei poll
Post it with the fucking results, retards, there's literally nothing to be gained by commencing there will be a poll.

>>16738007
No they aren't. We know from CCVID history that the NijiEN girls are very minimally infected while the NijiEN boys aren't infected at all. HoloEN, on the other hand, is being completely fucked sideways by CCVID and have been since it dropped.

>>16737973
That's like saying it's ok for Gura to get 5k CCV as long as a 7-man NijiEN collab gets 4k.
It's not a good sign for Gura to beat NijiEN when her own numbers are low/fucked.
Look beyond the petty tribalism anon.

>>16738066
I'm waiting for the 5 minute mark or for it to hit 100%

>>16737856
>she got one of her lowest peaks ever today
and you forgot
>CCvid still there for her
>pngVtuber
>kusoge game
yeah sure

>>16738066
This is /hlgg2/ before it's a /numbers/ thread, what do you expect.

>>16737856
Mumei is mogging them right now.

>>16738066
I would but this fucking stupid website keeps saying I have an embedded file in my screenshot even though my location is disabled

>>16737601
They are always credited. Just look at the description of the video.

>>16738066
until holoen mentions proofs they i wont see it as a cull

4 minutes

>>16737986
Mumei did make a point of mentioning Mori’s role in songwriting at practically every opportunity since debut, so anyone who doesn’t know about that simply doesn’t watch streams. Also, her poll surpassed her viewcount in 4 minutes.

Fuck u all for being lazy and only know how to push your shitty agendas when i am in the middle of work.

https://files.catbox.moe/zufyaj.png
4 minutes to get >100% engagement
Also interesting to note that her ccv was hovering around 3.5k before she opened the poll at which point it gained almost a thousand viewers over four minutes

>>16738198
yeah sorry, that was me, im turning off the poll bots in a sec

>>16738218 (me)
It was 4 mins

>>16737801
I though Iroha was an unknown

Ok this is a bit ridiculous

>100%+ engament in a 4min poll
impressive engagement mumei susan ludwig would be jelous

>>16738258
Guess that's people tabbing back in.

>Mumei poll
>mumei poll coming
>no results

> poll results 4minutes in
> no time shown
> no time shown

This is a troll right? No way people are THIS collectively autistic.

>>16738028
>there are >500 people monitoring this thread right now

>>16738197
Yeah, the members will absolutely credit them, Bae credited Kronii with mixing too on her cover. But you’d think hololive themselves would advertise these people as like some star studded cast who can do X and Y in some form or fashion, you feel me

>>16738141
With a ccv being culled.

>>16738258
She's been gaining viewers at a normal rate anonchama, its not as though these people tuned in JUST for the poll.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/JqieL3hVAwk

>>16738352
> no time shown
>>16738298
>>16738302
>>16738198
Are you blind or just retarded?

>>16738198
report it to YouTube

>>16738444
Surely they'll address it this time, haha...

>>16738385
To be fair, it’s a SC reading stream, so the cull isn’t likely affecting her too much. She’d be getting around 5.9-6k pre-CCVID.

>>16738520
i want her to keep that up. Mysta had a 1hr poll reaching 20k votes on his tier list stream

>>16738532
6k = at least 12k in reality

>>16738493
Doesn't matter. Keep doing it. Keep pushing until they're either forced to say "This is normal" or they HAVE to address it properly instead of this 'we're working on fix, working on a fix, working on a fix etc' for weeks on end!

>>16738604
Right now, let’s stick to the numbers we’ve seen since she debuted. There’s no telling exactly how much Council gets hit as a result of the 2020 cull.

>>16738444
Already did

>>16738284
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm34892297

Twitch is waiting HoloEN

>>16738284
Iroha's roommate did a collab with Subaru in like 2019

>>16738706
Polls and VODs are proof that every EN vtuber is hit for at least 80% of their actual numbers

Hope it was worth it

>>16738840
when you are launching you hire the biggest sponsors after that you get small people to promo.
is no surprise and probably ws cheaper than hiring again the holo girls.

>>16738840
Of course it was, you think they paid anywhere near the same amounts?

>>16738629
Wording it as a technical bug isn't the way to go.
Instead frame them as an unreliable, inferior platform to twitch where it's difficult to grow with how unreliable and often suppressed their statistics are, including ccv. After all, how is one supposed to blossom as a content creator when all they get is a 1view?

>>16738284
Ex IRIAM like Lamy

>>16738805 (me)
I meant 2880% sorry that I sounded like I was being a retard

Gura could be a 20/30k twitch streamer

>>16738942
That only works if you're a creator yourself, so unless Mori or someone would get off her fucking ass and tweet at youtube it won't do shit

>>16738840
>1 year ago
today this stream would peak at ~10k

>>16739037
Go fuck yourself, 100% poll engagement is not normal

>>16739070
Youtube knows jack shit if your twitter account is a content creator or not.

4.2k waiting for ame
taking long to reach the waiting room.

Kroni reaches her in 5min.

>>16738738
Maybe I'm mistaking her for someone else from holoX. Or maybe it's not that she was unknown, only her face was unknown idk

>>16739268
It's only been ~5 mins for Ame too, she'll reach it but I don't think she'll get much higher than her practice stream earlier.

>>16739295
the only relatively unknown iirc was lui, and she was in the industry already on a behind the scenes position iirc
the rest were all 2-3view indies

>>16739117
>Susan is apparently racist to English speakers
>Susan hates HoloEN and only HoloEN
>VODs to CCV
>likes to CCV
>votes to CCV
>waiting room numbers
>EN can't possibly decline, all of it are culls
I agree, I'd say 3100% is more accurate

>Mumei disabling superchats until she gets through all of them
WHY DO THEY DO THIS

>>16739456
Weak

>>16739456
becasue she has a shitton to catch up.

>>16739456
HoloEN is working with the shitposters who can't wait to post NijiEN vs HoloEN SC numbers at the end of January.

>>16739456
because then you're chloe and you're doing like your 12th superchat stream in 2 weeks

>>16739456
Because Hololive talents make plenty of money and don't need to beg for money DarksydePhil style like Nijikeks do.

Is Hololive dying? I'm noticing less viewers watching lately.

are likes a good way to check on engagement?

>>16739578
Go back to your Nijikek HQ, chinese wumao

i hate that checking this thread has become a habit for me since numbers have been fucking worthless for what feels like ages at this point

>>16739456
She’s trying to get through three of her highest earning streams. Normally she leaves them on during SC readings.
>>16739497
Chloe also does it because she’d have to go full Watame if she left them on.

>>16739574
NijiJP switches off SCs all the time, it's only holo JP that begs for SCs like the NijiENs do

>>16739603
yeah if you follow them as much as i do you get an idea of the vod vieews by the time the vod views finish queuing.

>>16739603
The best ways to push youtube videos in the algorithm with engagement is always subs, likes and comments.
It's a big reason why Gura's old VODs are almost always in the recommended list when you watch anything Hololive related.

>>16739648
Sorry, not a Ninjikek. I'm just noticing Vshojo growing and Hololive dropping viewers. Was wondering what was going on.

>>16739508
She got... like $7k from the outfit and song combined, maybe that's a shitton for her but for most of holoX that's called Wednesday

pika talking numbers and not really caring much about them

>>16739578
Gura 140k vod 2 hours after stream. Yea, that looks like a recline.

>>16739603
almost, yeah
>need an account to use them
>they don't directly impact the perception of the video to other people like CCV so there's not point in botting those
>you can't give a like outside the actual page (aka not on embed sites an whatnot)

>>16739730
Holo are getting hit with CCVID again. Vshojo sold clout and are seeing returns. Nijis are in the used condom trash bin as always.

>>16739785
That’s close to how much she made in November. Numbers without context are useless.

>>16739574
This is pretty funny to read considering during the HOLOcaust, many JP Nijifags were shitting on Holos and saying they deserved to get fucked for being so greedy with SCs, whereas their rule-abiding NijiJPs don't have SC on for most of their streams.

>>16739447
If EN is mogging JP in subs, likes, views and votes but losing in CCV the problem is CCV. You'd realize that if you had a single brain cell of any worth

>>16737334
Or maaayybeee... the girls just wants to cut cost and do it themselves. Or they just dont trust/satisfied with people the manegement reccomended. Who knows

>>16739713
>>16739725
>>16739832
got it, it's pretty strange checking ina and gura and seeing them with tons of likes but half the ccv of other holos with the same likes

>>16739930
But I'm literally proving your theory though? Or should the cull be higher?
Say 4000% should be close enough.

>>16740002
That's nothing new.
It's just EN vs JP viewing culture.
Sana sometimes gets more likes on her streams than Pekora does lol.

>>16740069
oh i see

>>16740069
Or maybe you could stop using culture cope. If Sana matches Pekora in likes the logical reason is that she's just as popular.

>>16739860
>Holo are getting hit with CCVID again. Vshojo sold clout and are seeing returns
Can you expand on these two?

>>16739697
apparently kiara has basically 100% chat engagement with max ccv. Totally normal, there's no cull.

>>16739924
Yeah but that context is meaningless is this case since it takes the same amount of time to read 7k of supas no matter how much you made in November

>>16740189
Let’s not go too far. Culture may be a factor, but it’s not necessarily the only one.

>>16740069
stop with this, Ludwig, DrDisrespect, Lupo and Valkyrae NEVER get those ratios

>>16740002
This very picture disproves the CCV to likes garbage if you bothered looking at the other streams.
>Haachama's 2 streams
>Noel, Ui, SMOK, Miko
>Matsuri, Koyori, Subaoka
It's inconsistent as fuck even only across the same branch and it should never be used to gauge CCV, ever

>>16740069
>viewing culture
You mean the tinfoil theory that got dismantled when CCVID was momentarily fixed? EN gets culled harder than JP so it results in EN streams having more likes than JP with similar CCV.

>>16740281
Haachama is treated like an EN and gets culled heavily, newfag

>>16740281
Please understand they are coping anon. Even ccv to vod was never consistent but fags will still use that shit.

>>16740276
>Ludwig, DrDisrespect, Lupo and Valkyrae
The people that watch them are not Hololive.idol fans, who are way more passionate and rabid.

>muh like

>>16740373
Retard
>RIP mic stream 3.3k CCV 8.8k likes
>ASMR stream 7.2k CCV 4.9k likes
It's inconsistent even among her own streams

>>16740002
Gura has triple the viewer/like ratio

likes are fucking useless as a metric unless you're comparing similar vods from the same streamer
you can literally affect them by the amount of calls to action you do

>>16740214
vei is sodapoppin E-girlfirend unironically

>>16740512
>likes are fucking useless as a metric
Useless for numberfagging, but more useful than CCV for VOD growth and algorithm pushing actually

>>16740512
Likes are a better marker of popularity than magic number CCV which is entirely made up

>>16740500
>Ludwig half the like to CCV
>JP half the like to CCV
>EN twice the like to CCV
yeah, normal

>>16740512
like HoloEN and HoloJP? they literally have the same game permissions

Likes to CCV are useless. Look at Koyori, it's not even consistent for a single streamer, there's utterly no point comparing it to other streamers and using one of them as a baseline for actual CCV

>>16739103
>*Looks at blue archive views*
Sure

>>16740713
Koyo still falls in the average, HoloEN shoots up to 2 liker per viewer

>>16740713
its great to show how imaginary everything is.

>>16740477
Anon.... that asmr stream died and is 8mins

>>16740565
>Useless for numberfagging
they arent people are comparing it to ccv when they should compare it do Vod views
Then you get an idea of each holo fanbase engagement.

>>16740933
Also better to do it across multiple streams over a period of time, discreet data points are of course going to be 'spiky' due to the day-to-day nature of the numbers.

>>16740228
The context is that she follows the Kiara method of going off on tangents, and the most recent comparable stream to each of the others she’s doing now in terms of SC revenue, the rant stream, had her going for longer than the rest of the stream. With all her random tangents, she’d be doing four hours to clear the backlog, and then she’d have to go through everything sent during those four hours. It’s a weekday and classes are starting up again. She seems to be taking a lighter courseload this semester, but classes are classes.

>>16741052
Yeah most holo En for exmaple get 10kviews per 1k like. with some exceptions like gura and kiara. Gura getting more views per like and kaira less.

>>16740445
Do you hear yourself?
So it's not hololive fans in general. It's not western streamers in general. It's not youtube streamers in general.
It's viewers of HololiveEN and ID and Haachama?

>>16741239
>And Haachama
based

Someone mentioned some threads ago the 3D live with Gundou-Kaida-Hoshikawa as a possible gold for today, so I went to Gundou channel and...

It's actually a premiere of 24min instead of a normal stream. why they do this so much

>>16741320
Low effort probably

>>16741320
covid restrictions maybe

>>16740276
depends on the content creator and their audience. techno peaked 80k+, 80k likes 1hr stream

>>16741320
Nijisanji doesn't give them support so they are unmotivated and just do low effort stream.

>>16740214
>clout
Vshojo's top 3 (Vei, Nyanners, Ironmouse) have inclined off of their interactions and collaborations with the 'top clique' of Twitch. Now, that's great and all, but it does mean that they're going to have to consistently maintain ties if they don't want to have a falling off in their numbers.
CCVID -> EN/ID at least, is getting 100%+ poll engagement in under 5 minutes. Also, Youtube has pretty much stated 'we're still working on this' so the underlying causes of CCVID are not gone, it's just that HoloJP hasn't done a mass-relay that's caused a ton of their users to get flagged, whereas EN had the Kimono relay for Council.

>>16741433
kek

Holofags are truly delusional. It's obvious from looking at the Gura's numbers that it's natural recline from her constant ghosting, broken promises and refusal to improve on any of these aspects.
She gets what she deserves.

Again, EN tends to leave likes more than JP
Have this animation channel as an example
https://youtu.be/G8epZ75UcxA
176k views 15k likes

Extreme example
https://youtu.be/6P3I4ZBTmOo
1 million views 21k likes
https://youtu.be/3Z823DmXeLo
365k views 25k likes

Example with similar views
https://youtu.be/4gJWJyx7I6s
594k views 37k likes
https://youtu.be/ZDWVc1m3iZA
619k views 16k likes

Same thing in Japanese
https://youtu.be/sMTGPzLZMXg
336k views 11k likes
This has been proven to death already, it's a thing, accept it

>>16741444
Have they though? When's the last time they addressed it?

god I hate nijifags so much, get the fuck out from the subreddit

>>16741483

>>16741483
Guras median in dec was the same as 10months prior neither of which are anywhere near her lowest ever month. So unless you think 30-50% of her audience just dies between dec and jan every year then yes YT is fucking up.

>>16741524 (me)
Again, EN tends to leave likes more than JP
Have this animation channel as an example
https://youtu.be/G8epZ75UcxA [Embed]
Same thing in Japanese
https://youtu.be/sMTGPzLZMXg [Embed]
336k views 11k likes
176k views 15k likes

Extreme example
https://youtu.be/6P3I4ZBTmOo [Embed]
1 million views 21k likes
https://youtu.be/3Z823DmXeLo [Embed]
365k views 25k likes

Example with similar views
https://youtu.be/4gJWJyx7I6s [Embed]
594k views 37k likes
https://youtu.be/ZDWVc1m3iZA [Embed]
619k views 16k likes

This has been proven to death already, it's a thing, accept it

>>16741558
How the fuck does this shit have 2000 upvotes? Are Nijikeks botting this?

>>16741113
She should just bang them out with SCs off if she wants them over, tangent method is what you do to farm more of them

>>16741558
And yet you still played it, disgusing.

>>16741524
and JP streamers with a big eop fanbase.

>Pekora
33,875 peak, 17,004 likes

>Miko
14,887 peak, 12,182 likes

>Lize
21,063 peak, 4,842 likes

>>16741558
Go back there and stay there r*dditnigger

>>16741558

>>16741603
It's on r/hololive and they are pro-unity.

>>16741709
this info is so old that the site doesn't even exists anymore

>>16740002
>CCV
You're looking at the wrong thing there, anon. YouTube recommendation algorithm works with total views. The more views you get in the shortest amount of time, the more likely it is that a video will get recommended outside of its core audience.

>>16741781
yikes

>>16741558
>>16741778
why though? stealth marketing?

Hong Kong Fandeads are something else. Imagine if Taiwan/HK luxiem fans did this.

>>16741558
their subreddit is actually fucking retarded, they literally upvote fucking holostars, nijisanji and kson more than fucking jp branch related posts

>>16741677
She does it because she’s scatterbrained and has no attention span. It’s good for baiting SCs, but she primarily does it because she can’t focus long enough to just bang them out.

>>16740713
It absolutely matters when we have direct evidence that polls are going over 100% participation within 4 minutes on EN/ID side and we have absurd ratios like what is happening today for EN.

Your example has Koyori having 5700 likes on a stream where she had 6-8k viewers over a 2 hour span. Kronii has as much likes as she has viewers in 40 fucking minutes. You can’t sit here and believe that every single person who enters her stream has left a like and stayed.

>>16741781
if that were true then nijien should have more viewers but they don't. it's probably the loud minorities just like here

>>16741956
You know exactly who's upvoting those unrelated posts.

>>16741906
You're more likely to get fucking shrines instead of shit plastered on buses from Yume/Fujo though.

>>16741579
Keep coping
>>16741584
Yes. I'm sure the cull only affects her more than others. Clearly not because she is reclining on top of having the cull unlike others who are inclining and offsetting the cull.

>>16741988
Pro-unity doesn't mean you'll watch them.
It just means you won't seethe and bitch every time the other side gets mentioned.

>>16741888
>>16741781
Well, stealth marketing might be true because it's the biggest vtuber subreddit. I don't really mind most of it since Hololive occupies the biggest vtuber mindshare. Even if NijiEN could beat HoloEN in CCVs one day or maybe SCs, their floor and ceiling won't be as high as any Holos for events nor are their SCs.

This thread was literally using likes and poll numbers to prove CCVid mere weeks ago, now suddenly its a difference of culture.
Fucking tards.

>>16741906
Advertising your oshi is doing god's work. You just need to know how to do it right so they're happy.

>>16742081
>Pro-unity doesn't mean you'll watch them.
for me pro-unity means you watch both companies and want them to collab. maybe indifferent is the word that you're looking for.

>>16741906
The (non-mainland ie good) chinks always do this, Pekora had ads up in Taipei for her birthday too

>>16741558
>rule 8: No advertising VTubers outside of hololive production

>>16741956
Niji/homo/kson artists and memeposters game the system to feature their oshi on r/hololive, since their own board only has a pathetic population. They insert some random HL member in their creation just so it enables them to farm karma there. It's sickening..

>>16741971
Way to miss the entire goddamn point. I literally said that likes to CCV are inconsistent among Koyori's own streams, there's no point trying to compare her to Kronii
Here's Kronii's own streams and likes, there's no consistently, you can't ratio it, more likes doesn't mean more CCV and vice versa
>>16742154
Except it's not the same person. Feel free to disprove it

>>16742154
>poll
Yes
>likes
Never used except to prove absolute fuckery with JP numbers.
ENs have been getting more likes than JPs since 2020.

>>16742154
What can you even do to fix CCVid lmao

>>16742154
>/#/ is one person

>>16742066
Except I just told you she has been stable for nearly a year except for the magic 30-50% she has lost from dec - jan 2years in a row. Nowhere did I say only she was affected.

>"it's normal for EN to have more likes, just culture"
>aka EN has more devoted and engaged fans than JP
>"EN fans are fickle tourists unlike JP fans"
>aka like to CCV ratio is incorrect ergo they must have far higher CCV than what is shown
Last samurais checkmated, you love to see it. Either way we win.

>>16742131
if it's stealth marketing, they're doing an awful job at hiding it. it's so fucking obvious that they're shilling nijien.
see >>16741778
I don't mind it if they were subtle about it. like who the fuck asks for the profile picture that so happens to have nijien in it instead of just linking Kiara's twitter page.

>>16742321
Keep throwing shit at YT so they're forced to unflag shit as it becomes more obvious that something is blatantly wrong where the CCV is off by 70%+, or until more people keep shitting on YT on twitter until they're forced to release a public statement. YT would LOVE for people to just sit around and quietly wait for them to 'fix' it.
Get in their face and don't let up the pressure (But don't be a COMPLETE asshat about it. Polite but firm pressure > rude screeching)

Remember when chumbuds was so proud about gura's number when CCVid was rampant? I sure do. Can't do the same thing now.

>>16742294
>literally posting an image where likes > CCV EVERYTIME unlike with JPs
youre retarded

>>16742576
Why are falseflagging nnjiniggers so obvious to deflect when the thread isn't kind to them?

>16742465
Then retards like this thinks they're in some sort of crusade against Satan or something when its affecting everyone
>>16742616
YOU are retarded. Likes to CCV is a stupid way to gauge actual CCV, you're going to tell me that the cull affects different streams at different rates (and it's not being progressively worse) next

Glad to know that ccv is completely BS.

>>16742576
it was the biggest exposure of susans magic numbers. No one will ever take youtube ccv seriously ever again except the fantasy football crowd from here.

alright boys here is some bait for free
since you want to focus on likes so much why not start arguing that Nijis twitter likes are obviously a more reliable metric for their max viewership? might as well go maximum retarded

Lui copypasting Ame's viewer baka

do NOT MOGU

>>16742967
Those are normal apex drops.
What's NOT normal is that drop to 1 by youtube. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with their CCV counter as of late but it keeps popping up in multiple streams and even got Technoblade earlier.

>>16742967
well it is apex so everytime they die tat happens.
The 1 viewers issue happened again tough.

>>16742906
>comparing twitter to youtube
>different platforms
retard the point is that EN are getting unfairly culled disproportionately on youtube because every single metric that's not CCV on the same platform points to them doing at least twice better

>>16742967
What the honest to god fuck is happening here

>>16743039
Don't tell me what to do

>>16743156
First time seeing an Apex chart?

Forget Gura, what the fuck happened to Irys' numbers? She was doing fine pre CCVid but now she's completely in the dumps. Did her audience decide January is a great time to leave as well?

>>16743289
She's not streaming consistently like before.

>>16743289
CCVID was never cured for EN, try to keep up

>>16743289
she is getting niked

https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1484027941994774538

Nijisanji concert is fucked.

Kenmochi, Hayato, Kanae and Yashiro ALL got Covid

>>16741320
Fantasia had to be cancelled since some livers tested positive for covid so I'm guessing they upped restrictions within the studio

>>16743419
Wow that's actually a massive blow.

>>16743419

>>16743419
Holy ouch.
They'll probably be fine in terms of health but ow that's gotta hit the pocketbooks hard.

>>16743419
That sucks even if it's mostly their fault.

>>16743419

>>16743419
JESAS

Numbers prediction on this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP1SRImu5r0

Baelz karaoke on JP primetime. I don't think anyone from EN outside of Calli has done karaoke on JP hours

>>16743419
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Couldn't have happened to nastier assholes.

>>16743419
should have worn masks during the gay orgie.
lets hope its just omnicron so they get better soon.

>>16743419
>first non-official reply
>"no one is at fault, can't be helped"
Do nijinigs really

>>16743419
OH NONONONONONONO NIJIKEKS??????
WHAT HAPPUN?????????

>>16743289
She also had to delay this stream for 2 hours so that probably didn't help.

>>16743419
Only the males? Day 1 is still going I assume?

>>16743419
Karma is a bitch isn't it. I'm so sad King hasn't gotten it.

>>16743552
I hope it does well but tasteless nips would rather watch Pekora jerk herself off to the same game over and over again than listen to a talented singer.

>>16743552
5k-7k

>>16743289
Irys has been addicted to overlaps for the past 2 weeks.
She has been overlapping with Kronii for almost every post-CCVID stream.

>>16743471
>>16743541
*Shake fist*

WATAMAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>16743552
they should do more archived karaokes however the timezone doesnt give many hopes
so i will lowballl and say 7k max 5k lowest
ccv is weird right now for the ENs.

>>16743552
6-7k.
Normally I'd say she has a good chance at 10k, but given the current state of CCVID creeping back (and hitting EN first this time around whereas it ambushed JP first last time), I'm just gonna take a good 20%+ off of whatever I'd normally expect for EN.

>>16743653
Or you know, there's just more nip Pekora fans than Bae fans?

>>16743632
No comments on day 1 so far, so yea.
It's the fact that so many of the performers got hit that they had to cancel day 2.

13min for Irys to recover her waiting room.
Just like CCVI overlapss are destorying the girls CCV

>>16743419
This makes me so happy

>>16743536
>>16743563
>>16743565
>>16743566
>>16743573
>>16743646
rumao at people who say this isn't the tribalfag thread, i don't watch nijis especially the boys but you faggots are pathetic

>>16743419
>While scrolling down one of the recommended tweets is a mf japanese one shot manga of Ike with a good amount of retweets and likes
>When the NijiEN girls have been barely acknowledged by the jp fandom
Luxiem success is truly due the japanese fujos

>>16743632
>>16743791
Nah, sooner or later, they need to announce cancellation of day 1 too just because the venue is already fucked if there are confirmed cases of performers there. The same thing would hit other staff and talents too if there aren't gonna clean the place before showtime.

>>16743843
>it's mostly their fault
Enlighten me, how is this not their fault.

>>16743843
Just ignore the idiots or else they're going to dogpile you and call you a Nijinigger.
This thread will be deleted in a day or two anyways.

>>16743843
It's less of a tribalfaggot thread when there's actually interesting numbers afoot, but right now it's prime shitposting burger hours, so I'm really not surprised.

>>16743419
Kek. Nothin personal, bro.

>cumbuds still seething over that 1view
HAHAHAHAHHA YOU WILL NEVER LIVE IT DOWN

>>16743552
I think Irys has done some but maybe I remember it wrong. 7k depend on overlap.

>>16743419
I've been updating Japan's covid news every day this week. This is music to my ears. Surprised day 1 didn't get hit but it's only a matter of time.

>>16743804
Fauna might not even make it to 4k with good ol' Minecraft.
This overlap is brutal and CCV is probably fucked, but these are awful numbers for everyone, especially compared to a month or two ago.

>>16743902
It's mostly likely spreading through whichever studio they're using to practice. Probably will see more reported cases in the coming days.

>>16743843
>make a joke
>wish them to get well soon
>get called tribalfag by a retard that can't read

>>16743791
Well that's half of them.

>>16743843
shut the fuck up nijinigger, you were spamming the board with that 1 view shit earlier

>>16743843
>doing concerts during peak pandemic against the most transmissible variant

kek

>>16744024
>getting called tribalfag by a butthurt tribalfag unwilling to admit Anykara's lack of concern in practicing safety measures finally caught up to them
Fixed for you

>>16743984
>Couldn't afford to set up shop at Comicket
>Talents get hit with Covid the day before
>Other half of event will probably be canceled too
I was disheartened seeing Gura struggle today but this has made my mood so much brighter.

>>16744047
I am so so happy at this news. They deserve it.

>>16744104
fuck off glowie

>>16744047
What was the hospitalization rate of Omicron again? How many of them will end up with hooked to a ventilator?

>>16743879
Numbers are numbers.Even iam Holofag,
i respect Luxiem.

>>16743843
The boys get to milk covid recovery sc. I think Hima's most watched solo stream last year was her post-covid return stream.

>>16743419
To be honest the company that kept doing full capacity concerts despite the warnings deserves this.

>>16744104
oy vey how dare you have a concert when there's a disease about as dangerous as the common cold going around!

>>16743843
>council gets shitted on repeatedly almost every day
I sleep
>niji gets shitted on
wow, why's this thread so tribalistic
nice selective biased. this thread will shit on anyone given the material, shitpost or not

>>16744047

I just noticed but the four guys that got the flu have good CCV, while the other four not. Is this the real power of the Watamage?

>>16744236
It's lower than the other variants and even lower if you've gotten two shots, which I'm certain all the involved livers have to have gotten by now.
They'll all be okay so long as they don't have some severe other medical issues.

>>16744019
is hard to tell if its becasue the ccvid or not
watson is already at 9k likes which means she probbaly have 100k views secured with 1hours and a half. ill have to wait for tomorrow for the vod views and compare to other streams.

>>16744296
Allow me to laugh at them cancelling a concert over contracting said common cold then.
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>16744337
Damn, that's a shame. One can still hope though. Also it could be delta right?

First it was ccv, then it was VOD views, now it's likes. Really?

>>16744280
Concert rev > Covid recovery SC
Anykara is gonna lose a lot of money from this because booking a 12k capacity venue for 2 days is insane. Plus, the merch they were gonna sell would end up in a loss.

>>16744236
All of them will get hospitalized but it is milder than the other variants especially if you are vaccinated.
Nothing bad will really happened to them but because the infection rate is really high I'm not surprised that they are not risking it this time.
>>16744305
Yes all four of them are the top of Nijimales. Saegusa too.

>>16744236
If you believe the kikes in the media and apparently this thread too all of these young men in at least relatively good shape aren't much longer for this world tragically, we should cancel all concerts and ban fun because of this deadly ligma variant

>>16741906
This is one thing bus wraps do right compared to the Ina/Kronii Times Square; they actually provide QR codes that leads to their oshi's channel.

>>16744337
>They'll all be ok
Hopefully not

>>16744296
>replace covid with cold

same result anon, they won't be able to perform with cold onstage

>>16744442
Yeah they are definitely losing quite a lot from this cancellation. And people are wondering why Cover book a smaller venue. Anyway for merch they can always sell them online.

>>16744236
Omicron is about ten times less severe than delta. Yashiro already recovered from his fever, Kagami has barely any symptoms.

>>16744442
Day 2 Merch sales will still be held (timeframe shortened but still held), and I seriously doubt anycolor is dumb enough to not take event insurance for cases like this.

>>16744346
>is hard to tell if its becasue the ccvid or not
Yeah, I don't really think it's CCVID (Ina, Mori, Fauna, Kronii were fine)
I really wish it is CCVID, because it's quite worrying that the audience for HoloEN has shrunken this much in a month.
Ame's apex collab numbers are half of what she got 6 months ago with Roboco and Towa, for the warmup and the actual collab.
Irys used to still be able to get 6k with overlap and now she's struggling to even get 4k.

HoloEN - 17716
disgusting numbers, 4 streams and not even 20k

>>16744613
yeah we know it's bad already

>>16744144
Watamage sacrificed Gura’s numbers today to make it happen.

>>16743541
no way.. watamage what did you do...

WATAMAGE
TAKE MY POWER

>>16744144
I missed the comiket news, got a source on that?

The NijiQui that was going to happen today also got cancelled

https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1484035481981661186?s=20

Fuwa ALSO got Covid. JESAS

>>16744850

>>16744850
>https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1484035481981661186?s=20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc6KUlXP--M

>>16744602
i think is still ccvid or a version of it exacly becasue of that overlaps. it is doing something with how it valiates users or not able to validate them properly with only the nijiEN boy and jp being free for now. Also ame is not collabing with towa but lui and iofi and apex is ina different position now. Irys took a lot fo time JUST to reach her waiting room.
Fauna and irys increase is really slow also.
Ina and mori have been able to stream without overlap usually.

>>16744850
Holy shit it keeps getting better!!! I am loving this.

>>16744847
They literally passed on the biggest con of the year, should speak volumes.
>>16744850
GO WATAMAGE GO

>>16744850
KING? What about KING?

No fun winning a race where your rival's ankles are chopped off but I'll take what I can get.

>>16744850
Fuck i hope they won't die! DIE!

>>16744850
Clearly the spreader probably came from Niji's studio

>>16745009
HEEEEEEEEEEE'S NEEEEEEEEEXT

>>16744301
there's a difference between shitposting about ccv and cheering for people catching a potentially debilitating disease

>>16745037
oh yes, of course, I certainly hope that does not happen...........yeah, of course, hope it doesn't happen....

>>16745009
Funnel your power to the Great Watamage

Fauna...

>Holobronies celebrating about sick people
I hope your oshi gets aids you fucking faggots

>>16745067
Cheering for people YOU HATE catching a potentially debilitating disease.

You left out a pretty important part.

>>16745037
That would be a real shame, it's not like they deserve any of this...

>>16745067
>>16745158
Where do you think you are?
Dont even pretend, you'd do the exact same is the situation is reversed. Get off this board.

>>16745155
hit by it too i guess

>>16745037
hell be fine

>>16745207
>I'm insane and retarded so you must be too
Nah bruh

>>16745190
Go back to /v/ and shitpost about Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo/Valve you fucking freak

>>16745207
Fuck you. You don't know me
I'll punch your autistic face into a pulp, faggot

https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1484024518058389510

At least they are still aknowledging it.

>>16745290
Anything that makes you seethe.
It's alright, I'll still root for King.

>>16745158
This is rich coming from a nijinigger who demonstrably has no morals himself. What's funnier is that we can't get aids unlike their branch who promote gay orgies, which is what caused their talents to get the coof in the first place.

>>16743419
I think this is karma for always ignoring covid protocols during concerts endangering the fans.

>>16745349
i recall before the fix roll we were seeing some strange drops on somes holos streams like roboco. Maybe they are testing something yet this 1drops are new.

>>16745158
Fuck you. It's Nijisanji's fault for not following the proper health protocols in place.

>>16745158
Don't think I don't remember you Nijinigger faggots coming into /hlg/ when Miko was hospitalized and wishing for her death. I was there you fucking mongoloid. What goes around comes around.

>>16727794
To return from console war faggotry to numbers, Fuwa is already having a great month for SCs and now gets a coof comeback stream

>>16745349
The 1 viewer bug is a nothingburger graphic bug.
It fixes itself quickly and the numbers don't seem heavily affected aftewards.
I just want to know if HoloEN is being culled or is the audience for HoloEN now literally half of what it was 3 months ago.

>>16745458
I've seen this getting spammed but what is the proof of this? Every event nijisanji held so far has a disclaimer on the event site about how they're following govt protocols to the letter.

Is nijisanji violating an imaginary lockdownprotocol in your head?

>>16745508
Congratulations? You're as shitty as a Nijinigger now.

>>16745548
And he loses his taste buds and respitory functions for it lmao. He's gonna need those SCs dearly to pay his medical fees.

>makes fun of gura's cull
>oshi gets covid
bros... i was just joking around

Theoretically, Concerts can still be held if they followed protocols in place after the quasi-lockdown is in place, seeing how the news only mentioned that diners should reduce operating times and halting alcohol sales. Sora's concert is good enough to go, it's that day 1 niji concert is a little bit of a problem since they are already confirmed cases of covid for them. Should they risk the staff, talents and audience getting the coof too or should they not and just cancel it?

>>16745580
>a graphic bug
getting a 1 when calling the api to get the number of concurrent conections is NOT a graphical bug.
it measn some of their cache servers might be shitting the bed and when a request hits them is returning a wrong number.

>>16745680
It depends on whether the males are in contact with the staffs and the girls.

>>16745508
Why do you ENfags always larp so fucking hard to compensate for your newfaggotry, it's embarrassing. I've been a holofag on 4chan since the /vyt/ days and 90% of the shit you nerds accuse the nijinigger boogeyman of doing never happened.

>>16743419
Hahahahahahahaha!

ITT: moralfags virtue signaling

I’m unsure if this Gura vod is processing faster than usual but those numbers are absolutely not in line with what you see out of a 10-11k ccv stream. Not that this is a surprise to anyone of course, but 200k on a 2hr long vod of a debuff game that has practically no churn value to it? And the night hasn’t even begun? Looks weird as fuck desu

>>16745593
Anon, they've been selling packed concerts for months already despite a pandemic going on. Look at one of their concerts or physical events, the seats aren't even distance and the viewers are all packed together. Now, Imagine what it would look like if they continue their concert in a venue that could fit 12k. I'd assume their tickets were also sold out too, so there's bound to be problems for them especially since Tokyo records the highest new cases of infection atm.

>>16745067
how do you know they're not shitposting though?

>>16745593
Protocols be damned, it was morally incorrect to hold such a large-scale event amidst a giga-contagious pandemic surge in the first place. If you have any shred of empathy you cannot refute this, by going through with the event AnyColor are taking money at the risk of human casualties. Holo scaled their events down to accommodate and booked smaller venues despite being able to fill FAR larger ones. Niji did not do this and pays with blood.

Why are chumbuds like this?

>Holo threads has been shit lately due to maleposter and unicorn duking it out
>Come here in hope of something sane and moderate
>Niji got hit with the coof, thread instantly go to shit

Fuck me

Any contender for gold tonight aside of pekora?

>>16745869
>>16745902
This you?

>>16745941
>Implying chumbuds come to these threads
People just use Gura like a weapon one way or another, its not like they actually support her

>>16745656
>He's gonna need those SCs dearly to pay his medical fees.
He's not American. I don't think Japan's health care is that costly, relatively speaking.

>>16745953
>entering the numbers thread in hope of something sane and moderate
You're insane.

>>16745953
Huh? Did niji concert got cancelled?

>60k Holo gold tonight
>King gets the coof
Choose.

A nip commented on the day2 cancellation that the tickets had already been sold out. I don't know how to fact check, but if they really did sell out 12k tickets, they've gotta lose a lot of money honestly.
https://twitter.com/bay_winner19/status/1481932173523697664

>>16745953
The threads have been shit all day.

>>16746068
Niji dies

>>16746068
KING easily, show me 100k and we can have a discussion.

>>16745158
You nijiniggers wished death on Miko when she was hospitalized. You nijiniggers, particularly dragoons, wished death on Korone during her break. Now you cry and bitch when the situation is reversed? You can dish it out but can't take it. Go fuck yourselves and rope yourselves afterwards.

>>16746103
>Day 2 is sold out
>Day 1 is not
Sasuga manjisanji

>>16746041
Day2 cancelled, Kenmochi, Hayato, Kanae, Yashiro, and Fuwa ALL got Covid.
Its almost inevitable Day1 will get cancelled, it would be a PR disaster if they held it and a bunch more of their talent get it, let alone if it becomes a superspreader event and the government takes note.

>>16745980
Nah, mine has 2 up top and a plastic faceplat. Keep those gay germs away from me.

>>16745980
Anon, I know you're dumb but look from the POV of a Japanese minister, if they ignore the rising cases, they'd rather commit seppuku than live a life being an incompetent leader. Sure, it ain't deadly, but hospitals be damned if there's too many cases.

>>16746103
Keep the news coming, this is just sweet sweet honey

>>16746184
I already commented on the Miko thing but of course the Nijiniggers deny and deflect.

>>16746210
>YAGOO tells Susan to sacrifice number so Watamage can unleash the coof upon Niji
You hear it /here/ first

It's always funny when there are anons that prefer Nijis getting low numbers over Holos getting high numbers.
Doesn't matter how shit the numbers are as long as their team wins I guess.

>>16746285
Nijiniggers were far more vitriolic than this, they sent her personal d*xshit

>>16745966
Rushia i guess

>>16746103
>what is insurance?

>>16746296
I'm a complete Holofag but I actually hate Nijisanji more than I love my oshi. There is nothing I wish for more than the total demise of Nijisanji.

HoloEN is being targeted or something, I don't know. IRyS still safe, though.

man, we're definitely not getting a live audience for holofes 3 are we

guess we gotta get the crowd noise recordings again...

>>16746352
I doubt an insurer would take them on in circumstances such as these, certainly not without very pricey premiums.

I hate nijisanji so much it's unreal

>>16746366
>Irys stuck at 4k after 1 hour of GTAV
>safe
I hope she has CCVID and is getting culled because that's a fucking awful number for a buff game.

/#/ - Nijisanji hate thread

>>16746366
IRyS doesn't have the 1 view bug but she is still clearly suffering from CCVID. Remember during the peak of CCVID she was one of the hardest hit so its no surprise that she is still getting it.

Youtube needs to fix their shit now. Seeing my oshi get these numbers is making me sad.

>>16746293
This sounds like my mom telling me that the Tonga eruption was cause by a government earthquake bomb to disrupt the global economy as part of "the plan".

unrelated to anything that's going on, polka managed to hold 7k+ for like 4 hours, is that good or bad for her

>>16746366
The 1 view thing is not exclusive to HoloEN. It happened yesterday to some JPs like Towa and it's starting to get more and more frequent.
Should be a nothingburger though, hopefully.

>>16746438
>15 minutes to recover waiting room
Yeah, she still has CCVID pretty clearly

>>16746366
Youtube just decided that the graphs need cute legs to hold themselves up. Nothing to see here.

JWU, how hard are we kneeling to Mysta today and what's Gura's mog status?