/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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>>16790842
You schizos actually believe they'll collab with males? So funny.

>>16790842
I'm fine with males, hopefully we get some watchalong streams and some reddit recap

>>16790842
Cover saw Nijimales success and wants to replicate it. It's that simple, despite how /vt/ wants to portray Niji as some irrelevant company Cover really loves copying their blueprints.

It's because there's some guys that they think would be fun to collab with.

>>16790967

This board is so obsessed with men I'd swear it was gayer than /lgbt/

>>16791084
This
They forgot to realize one thing. They are an Idol company, so if one of their liver collab with males it's gonna make them pissed off

>>16791969
Horny posters are the only good posters on this board now. Purge all other threads, purge all other content. Make /vt/ pornographic again.

>REEEEE MALES REEEEEEE

Autismos like this are the reason they start to crave Chad cock.

Are you happy you drove your oshi to welcome his hunk spunk deep into their wombs?

It's all your fault, Anon.

>>16791969
True, the stars almost turned me gay. Miyabi....

>>16790842
Yagoo love his holostars anon. Thats why any attempt to collab with them is approved by the management

>>16790842
Niji EN effect. Their debut was too big.
And holoEN, hell even jap, they cannot stop growing necause dead subs and rotational viewership or they risk oblivion.
Males are the new FOTM game since pokemon is old news already.
It's just basic streamer copy-cat'ing each other.

>>16790842
To piss off incels and its working. RUMAO

>>16790842
You just can't beat the cock, man.

>>16792131
If you turned this board red it'd actually solve the Indonesian problem

>>16792188
>is actively acting like a cock hungry faggot
yeah, I think i'll go on the opposite side of this guy

>>16792131
red /vt/.... heaven...

>>16790842
They want the cock.
Can't beat the cock.

>>16791066
male collab in 3 hours bruv

>>16793211
Which channel? With who?

>>16792017
In fairness, the JP Stars are basically male idols, and unfortunately they're also used to how the game works.
Who knows if it'll also apply to EN Stars if it happens though. If they can scout out some guys as respectful as JP Stars then it'll be good, since they can still be personal. Just will suck if they get endless shit because they're male idols working separately from female idols.

>>16790842
Friendly reminder that HolostarsEN is coming.
Tick.
Tock.

>>16793269
Iofi, Ollie, Mumei, Bae, Oga, Shien, Roberu, and Aruran.

Streams will be on Oga and Iofi's channels.

NijiEN's males did well. That's all

>>16791074

>>16791074

They're getting everyone ready for Stars EN, which will collab much more frequently with Hololive EN than in the JP branch. Westerners don't have the pathetic cuck culture that leads to them pretending anime girls on the internet are their girlfriend, so literally the entire EN fanbase outside of the most pathetic parts (see: /vt/) welcome the idea.

>>16793576
>Westerners don't have the pathetic cuck culture that leads to them pretending anime girls on the internet are their girlfriend
.......??????

>>16793666
Obviously in the west it's all about actual anime girls, vtubers are 3dpd only barely watchable because they hide their ugly faces behind the perfection that is the 2d world. Here's my girlfriend(real), Saten Ruiko.

>>16793336
thanks kronii

>>16793976
you're the cuck, what's worst about it is you're a cuck that has never ate pussy

Yearly reminder https://youtu.be/75dUDnCujT4
10:30 1:08:44

>>16791749

>>16793576
I can't wait to see what it does to the facsimile of board culture here. Will the smaller corps all pretend to be unicorns to finally take HoloEN down a peg? Or team up with the minority of the majority that doesn't give a shit while the schizos defect to JP?
What happens when too many of the Stars have good opsec and nobody can tell for sure who used to be an anituber?

>>16794181
>>16790967
>>16791749
As much as I'd like Forsen to collab with Gura, Forsen has a considerable part of his fanbase that calls anime watchers as pedos

>>16794591
As much as I dont want them to collab, men aren't supposed to care about what other people say. There is the truth and that is all.

As long as my Ina isn't involved I don't care.

>>16792248
migaby....

I herby declare the golden age of HololiveEN over. Mori and Ina dug their claws in and now don't wanna let go of their cash cow and comfort. While Mori is a devil, Ina is by far worse with her nepotism hire AO(Omegatroon) who now wants to change the flow of Hololive. They want away with idol culture and bring forth piss shit cum and male collabs. Why would these people be fans of Hololive and join it only to change what they were fans of? i doubt Gura would be a fan of Aqua of she had a really dirty mouth and was doing nasty shit on stream when Gura first saw her. So why seek to destroy what you liked? It's over..

>is it the biological desire of women to seek for the cock?
Yeah

>>16794591
Funnily enough his community was where I found someone to talk to about chuubas back when I first picked it up.

>>16795062
>>16794591
Yep, this is also where I found my oishi ironically.

>>16794591
>Forsen has a considerable part of his fanbase that calls anime watchers as pedos
Pretty sure he says that too yet he watches every Gura clip his viewers request.

>>16794591
>considerable part of his fanbase

>>16795169
>Pretty sure he says that too yet he watches every Gura clip his viewers request.
Nope, been watching him for a year now since the MC Speedruns. The hobo's usually pretty quiet in these sort of things but if chat gets too mad, he bends down a knee.

>>16794974
A-Anon, it's time to go home, to our beloved HololiveJP

>>16795237
Makes sense. The only traditional streamer I used to watch was HAchubby but I abandoned them completely when vtubers became a thing.

>>16795169
not a weeb Copesen

>>16792656
Threadly reminder that every one of these people are twitch tourists

>Gura in the picture
>question in the post

We want males.
We are begging for males.
We are praying for males.
We are hungry for males.
We are frothing for males.

We are the majority.
We are the true fans.
We will get males.
And there's nothing that can stop us now.

>>16795212
Pretty sure a big part of Forsen's community are actual weebs and chuuba watchers. Most of the clips that's donated to him are Hololive clips with the occasional Vei clip.

>>16795471
Forsen didn't play Nekopara Copesen

>>16794974
Ame invented nepotism

>>16792017
They are not idols

>>16793336
Im in HolostarsEN. First dubs that replies to me is the only girl I promise to not even talk to, or acknowledge she exists. Everyone else is fair game, tho.

>>16795818
AMELIA WATSON
AMELIA WATSON
AMELIA WATSON
AMELIA WATSON
PLEASE

>>16795486
Threadly remind you are an ugly incel faggot and your oshi is disgusted by your fat ass.

>>16795863
Feeling down? Just swing by /vt/ and remember that no matter how fucked up your existence is, you'll never be an miserable as a holobrony

>>16795863
your oshi's oshi giggles when I show up in chat

>>16792131
BASED

>>16790842
>the flowers are for you
God what a faggot, man is really desperate

>>16790842
why is she giving herself flowers

>>16797707
she's maintaining kayfabe

>>16790842
Why is there so many thread about male? Isn't this word only used when talking about animals? Is this an american thing?

>>16798419
What other word would you use to describe someone of the masculine sex?

Nigga its just business.
Literally all it is, its a reverse HoloEN situation, Niji took their shot on males and it paid off, seriously I watched Mysta's birthday stream for 30 minutes, the stream elements shit NEVER STOPPED, just 2 hours of nonstop donations on top of the sea of red from actual youtube supas.

All it is, its a fucking business, EN market is FAR more open to males, especially with the Holo branding slap on it.

>>16790842
Kiara stopped collabing with vshojo after receiving a lot of backlash in her comments, maybe we can do the same

>>16798860
"a man" or "men".

>>16792017
EN are far from idols, they're more like twitch streamers.

Being a unicorn is self inflicted chance at being cucked

>>16791074
Can someone explain why deadbeats say deadbeats say
>mori did nothing wrong
While still trying to put heat on gura?

>>16799941
You're right

>>16794591
>bajs aren't weebs

Foren...

>>16793211
That's different

gura would never cuck her chumbuds like this

>>16801229
Cuckbuddies... https://youtu.be/75dUDnCujT4?t=4118

>>16799941
>inflicted chance at being cucked
Kek

>>16801512
a meme lord attracts another meme lord

>>16801512
>cuck
>with Forsen
He has Nina.

>>16792316
B-but /vt/ told me that management was purposefully fucking over the Holostars!
>>16799130
The retarded thing are people like you who only say Niji succeeded with males thanks to NijiEN. They've been succeeding with males before NijiEN's male wave with dudes like Kuzuha, Fuwa, Kanae, Toya, Maimoto, Yashiro, etc. EN market is far more open to males? STFU. JPs watch males too, just not holostars because guess what? Holostars are kinda shit. Outside of the NijiJP dudes, you've got the CR/FPS dudes like Daruma/Stanu/Shaka and then there's Jun.

>>16801729
Gura is watching a man. That's not you. Absolutely and utterly cucked.
>>16801841
>he doesn't know

>>16801903
nijien really did only succeed with males tho

>>16801935
You nijiniggers are fucking weird.

>>16791066
I unironically think Bae and Roberu should be a thing like OreApo. I know people meme about SuiseiRoberu but Bae had already straight up said she liked Roberu. I dunno why incels are desperately trying to push Bae with Irys.

>>16802033
??Yea no shit. Because Manjisanji is real. I'm saying that Niji succeeded with males before NijiEN because after NijiEN's male wave, there's suddeny a bunch of people going "see males can work in vtubers!" but like, Niji already proved that with its JP branch.

>>16802183
I dunno what you're saying. You want something fake or something real?
Because if its real, why should it be public? Entertainment? That's gay
If it's fake, that's gay

>>16802308
niji jp boys are completely different than the fujobaiting en trash
fuck off back to tumblr and never compare kazuha with your en trash

>>16790842
Your oshi WILL collab with the males.
Your oshi WILL hype everyone up for Holostars EN.
Your oshi WILL drop in chat during their debut.
Your oshi WILL get teetee with the males during collabs.
Your oshi WILL sympathize with the StarsEN when they're having a bad day.

You will continue to watch Hololive, and you will be happy.

>>16799941
Being a unicorn for any chuuba is a bit like having an anime waifu. However, unlike with anime, you don't have a self insert and you're reduced to being a disembodied floating piece of comment on the internet.

Honest to god feels like the closest to cuckery

>>16795597
We will not watch streams.
We will not superchat.
We will not member.
We will not buy merch.
We will have AdBlock on.
We will watch clips.
Added for accuracy

>>16790842
>waste youthful years being a vtuber
>graduate one day still lonely and single
>introduce male vtuber colleagues they can interact with each other and maybe hook up offline
>graduate happy, having made lots of money and met their lover in the same profession

It's to look out for these brave women who are sacrificing their youth entertaining incels, their lives are way more important so their management will make sure their talents do not end up lonely one day after graduation

>>16804021
The sacrifice the women make are making incels, trannies and globalists in general seethe.
It's just endless stories of self-improvement for the sake of men's oshi's.
Hasn't been this big a wave of boys returning to the road of manhood since the Kermit Professor.

>>16799941
>>16803347
It is. Take the entertainmentchad pill

>>16804404
I would if female vtubers were actually entertaining in any way.
Their only real appeal is their cuteness.

>>16804404
I don't know who you're fooling.
You could be a 100 year old disabled from the waist down married man with grandchildren and you'll still feel a great sense of joy and pride when seeing the girls pull off their reps and perform a great show.
Entertainment is shallow, I just binged 10 seasons of a US TV show. I watched some brothers defeat the Devil and it's not the same as watching Korone beat the Devil on Ghosts n Goblins.
It's ok to be gay anon but don't try to force that shit down others throats.

>>16790842
Who tf is ZoomersLULW?

>>16805455
Sebatian Eli Fors
Gura's favorite male streamer to watch.

>>16790842
They need to expand to different people and markets. You can't just rely on a few unicorns forever, they'll run out of a job and money someday. You need those "weeb normies" and actual normies to support you in the long term like what VShojo is doing.

>>16806418
>You can't just rely on a few unicorns forever,
You literally can. You do realize those are the same people that whake in gacha games, right?

>>16802183
>I dunno why incels are desperately trying to push Bae with Irys.
That's actually just Bae to distract us from the "R" and it's fine, besides she's an idol and you know what happened to Matuli right?

>>16804986
>>16805038
Guys it breaks my heart thinking you have so little faith in Holotalents in being entertaining that you only watch them for their voice and model. When have you grown so jaded?

>>16806586
>You literally can. You do realize those are the same people that whake in gacha games, right?
And what happens when they can no longer get off from their parent's money or they're out of a job? It's unstable since you're relying on the financial stability of a few people but if normies are you're audience, you'll be relying on thousands of people.

>>16806968
You're relying on thousands of normalfags who think donating money to a vtuber is something only pathetic incel losers would do.

>>16802183
Shut up you dont even watch hololive or holostars

>>16807121
>You're relying on thousands of normalfags who think donating money to a vtuber is something only pathetic incel losers would do.
Where have you been these past few years? Anime as a whole is being normalized and so will be VTubers in a few years which is why Hololive is trying to capture them. Are the people donating to VShojo after Mizkif a bunch of incels?

>>16793416
>>16790842
are these collabs real wtf???

>>16807319
>Anime as a whole is being normalized
Only ironically. "dude i'm such a weeb! i have ten waifus and i jacked off to some epic hentai last night"
>Are the people donating to VShojo after Mizkif a bunch of incels
By normalfag standards, yes.

>>16807442
Right, and those people are better customers than unicorns who sperg out over the thought of males. Besides, I don't see anybody stoning Mousey for interacting with Connor and Vei for interacting with Soda.

>>16807619
>those people are better customers than unicorns
No. A normalfag retard who thinks he's a gigachad because he's spent $0 on vtubers won't make them more money than a devoted fandead. It works the same way in gacha games, and there's been studies done on that before.

>>16801841
>Nina was real

>>16807769
>No. A normalfag retard who thinks he's a gigachad because he's spent $0 on vtubers won't make them more money than a devoted fandead. It works the same way in gacha games, and there's been studies done on that before.
Again you're relying on a few people's financial stability, we already talked about this. Supas, memberships and donations don't make up a majority of Hololive chuuba earns, ads, sponsorships and merch does which is why a big normalfag fanbase is better and they won't fuck you for being near males.

He's so cool...

>>16807971
>Again you're relying on a few people's financial stability
So do gacha games and they always pander to the minority. When you say a few people you mean a few thousand, not a few dozen.
>ads, sponsorships and merch does
Going to need a source on that. How many people don't have adblock? How many normalfags think chuuba merch isn't "cringe"?

>>16808107
>adblock
It's 2022. Almost everyone is on mobile, and normalfag itoddlers have no access to a youtube without ads.

>>16808269
>Almost everyone is on mobile
Not true. There was a leaked document from Cover going around recently that showed it was around a 60/40 split. Still, you need many hours of ad revenue to match an akasupa. I still don't believe you.

>>16808107
>So do gacha games and they always pander to the minority. When you say a few people you mean a few thousand, not a few dozen.
Gacha games =/= Hololive chuubas, different things. One is a game, the other is a person with a VTuber avatar.

>Going to need a source on that. How many people don't have adblock? How many normalfags think chuuba merch isn't "cringe"?
Ask any streamers. xQc alone earns more on sponsors than subs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_opdYHUYa4
>inb4 fleshtuber
They're just the same thing, the difference is that a Hololive chuuba uses an anime avatar.

>>16808564 (me)
whoops wrong vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0gBZCSoruA

>>16808564
>xQc alone earns more on sponsors than subs
That means nothing, because he's not in Hololive. I don't know the frequency of sponsored streams he does.
>They're just the same thing, the difference is that a Hololive chuuba uses an anime avatar.
Absolutely not. Vtuber culture is very different from normal Twitch culture. I doubt xQc has many cash cows that feel obligated to support him because they're in a virtual relationship. Your tourist is showing.

>>16808425
>Still, you need many hours of ad revenue to match an akasupa.
Precisely, a vid with hundreds of thousands of viewers is gonna perform better with monetization and ads than supas. If this was not the case, people won't be uploading videos on Youtube but instead become streamers.

>>16808765
>Your tourist is showing.
and yours is showing too if you think unicorns are a better and valid fanbase for the chuuba than thousands of normalfags.

>>16808767
Let's assume your average Hololive chuuba gets 100K VOD views and streams once a day. I put this in a "YouTube Money Calculator" (could be completely wrong, but there's no way to know how much Cover is making per view) and set the "engagement rate" to max (I have no idea what YouTube considers engagement, but it's probably lower than 100%). You don't think they can manage more than ~$500 in superchats for every stream, on top of the loyal members that pay up every month? Again, in reality this is probably a lot lower, because the engagement is set at max.

>>16808767
You know that huge amounts of youtubers transferred over to twitch in the past few years? Sovietwomble and cyanide are millionaires now because they left youtube and started twich streaming.

>>16806968
>And what happens when they can no longer get off from their parent's money
You have no clue about anything in this industry. The people that buy merch are the superfans that drop akasupas. akirose already proved that reddit tier normalfags like you are worthless.
And no, youtube ad money is complete shit and not worth pandering to.

Are you unironically from reddit or something? No way someone that's from 4chan is actually this clueless about the industry.

>>16794974
To bad, there was never a golden age.

>>16809641
But xQc said so, it must be true. It's not like western Twitch streamers and Hololive are completely different worlds.

>>16809830
KEK. He even straight up disregarded that a twitch streamer gets all of the sponsorship money while a Vtuber doesn't.
Jesus Christ this place has gotten infested with people that don't even know anything about the whole gig. Even worse than 2008.

>>16809830
No! let's disregard what he said. He clearly knows more about "the industry" than the biggest Twitch streamer

>>16810653
>the industry
What fucking industry? The "Twitch streamer" industry is separate from the "Vtuber" industry. You wouldn't compare them unless you're a tourist, fresh off the boat from Twitter or Reddit.

>>16810759
>What fucking industry?
Streaming industry you moron, xQc and Hololive chuubas are both streamers. No matter how much you think a Twitch and VTuber industry are separate due to their audience, you can't deny that they both are streamers.

>>16810880
How big of a cut does xqc have to give to his corporate company?
You fundamentally misunderstand how streaming works for Vtubers.

>>16810880
Right, OK, if you want to go that broad then let's do it. News stations are broadcasting live, so they're streamers. What does their revenue sources look like?

>>16811065
The point still stands whether corpo or indie, if you're getting a fuckton of money from sponsors than supas.

>>16811149
>News stations are broadcasting live
Are you retarded or something? Does xQc and Hololive use antennas and satelitte cables to stream their content?

>>16806925
Didn't say that. Entertainment on its own has little value, I haven't watched The Sopranos yet for example. That is sure to be entertaining. Might be years before I watch it.

>>16809641
>>16809198

>And no, youtube ad money is complete shit and not worth pandering to.
Surely if it's shit, then YouTube should've become a livestreaming platform a long time ago.

>>16795863
>INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL
Find new material

>>16790842
>This flowers
forsenT

>>16811445
No the point doesn't stand because you don't understand what the hell you are talking about.
Twitch streamers get to keep everything, corpo Vtubers don't and they probably make a shit cut cause a lot of them have said that the best way to support them directly is to buy memberships and buy merch.
You probably don't know that the standard in the industry is for the Vtubers to pay for their own songs and MV's and they can only get help for corporations if they sign off their rights to the music.

>>16811492
The technology used should be much less relevant than the personalities, content, audience and corporate structure. The appeal of vtubers is entirely different from traditional streamers and that's why they make their money in different ways. If you weren't a clueless tourist trying to subvert vtubing culture because you think it's sexist or whatever you would know this.
>>16811605
That's not how it works. Retard. If Twitch provided video hosting and they paid better everyone would flock there, but they don't. YouTube fills the niche of video hosting and they're the best at it.

>>16811605
It's more to do with the kind of content people want to put out. There's a reason why near every youtuber has a patreon, merch and other shit. Hell if you give $5 to a youtuber as a donation, you will give him more than he will get from you in more than a year.
Were you not there for the adpocalypse after which every youtuber made a patreon cause very few could actually earn enough money from ads to live?

>>16811605
ALSO
The reason why twitch streamers are against ads is that they get fuck all from them and it ruins viewer engagement hence why very few streamers actually run manual ad breaks.

>>16807971
look at this greyname trying to explain everything kek

>>16811605
the fuck are you living in 2012? yt ads always has shit cpc since like years ago and dont fucking trust that yt calculator, most of the time your videos will only get like 0.02$ per views for gaming niche

>>16811698
It works like a charm and its true. Why would I?

>>16793416
i'd watch this unironically

>>16790842
Only male that I approve is Pewdiepie

>>16813687
cringe.