/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>16828472
Yes

fuck off cuckbeat
just cause she got forced to participate in holofes doesn't mean she isn't shit

>>16828553
This.

She's a moron for mixing her vtuber persona with real life shit. She's now opened the door for hololive videos now having streamers doing the basedak face in the thumbnails

>>16828472
OOTL what did she do

>>16828472
Nah. I hope she has tech difficulties and can't appear in holofest.

>>16828682
you could always just..ignore them

I dislike her before due to wiggers shit desu.
But now I actually have a valid reason to anti her.
Thanks Mori! Looking forward to your graduation!

She did nothing right

>fuck off cuckbeat
>just cause she got forced to participate in holofes doesn't mean she isn't shit

>>16828834
>connorcarelessly made a comment about hololive and didn't think about how it sounds out of context
>a schizo told calli not to be friends with conor because of this via a super chat on a membership stream
>Calli told this person that her and connor talked about it in private (like an adult) and that he said he was sorry to the en members
>Calli said she's going to continue being his friend because fuck cancel culture
>Calli then said that if she gets super chats that talk shit about her friend she'll donate that money to them
>Schizo goes full incel and shits up the entire board

that's the gist of it. Everything else is speculation or autists reaching

>>connorcarelessly made a comment about hololive and didn't think about how it sounds out of context
>>a schizo told calli not to be friends with conor because of this via a super chat on a membership stream
>>Calli told this person that her and connor talked about it in private (like an adult) and that he said he was sorry to the en members
>>Calli said she's going to continue being his friend because fuck cancel culture
>>Calli then said that if she gets super chats that talk shit about her friend she'll donate that money to them
>>Schizo goes full incel and shits up the entire board
>that's the gist of it. Everything else is speculation or autists reaching

>>16828472
It was fun hating on calli in /vt/ but at the end of the day I don't want her to graduate or for this drama to get any bigger. I'm a hololive fan and don't want the whole ship to sink.

Calli did nothing wrong.

>idiots drowned out by 3rd fes
>now crying because they're now irrelevant
>Mori's baiting during streams made them so mad that they keep talking about her
>Will now be seen as dramafags in light of the 3rd fes announcement

SASUGUH. You all got played like a fiddle.

>>16829275
>t. the schizo

>>16828834
>Connor givrs a dumb take on hololive (yeah, shoker, I know)
>seanigher morischizo breaks containment and starts sending passive-aggressive SCs bitching about Connor to Mori
>Mori says that if people keep sending SCs attacking others she will just donate the money to said person
>morischizo responds with a $250 "Connor condom fund"
>Mori keeps on streaming and publicly donates $250 to Connor dring his next stream
>moroschizo gets completely assblasted and shits the entire board for 3 days

>>16828553
Didn't Calli say that she had a studio date the same time and wouldn't make the Holofest? And then changed her mind and that she'd make an appearance, schedule permitting? Then staying the whole time?

>>16829348
>>t. the schizo

>>16829250
It's a bit more than that, plenty of people hate connor in general (putting aside what he's said about hololive) and don't want HL to associate with him or TT.

This latest event was just an excuse for people to go full schizo on it.

>>16828472
>been reading super chat for three years
>oh noes i >purposely let my guard down and read this le hater supacha and dab on him

No

>>16829283
you are very lovely I wish you a happy day hope you have fun

>>16829283
Sometimes a tree will get Blight and the only way to save it is to cut off the blighted branches

>>16828834
we're all cucks now because she's fucking Connor and not us

>>16829473
You mean being Mousey and Connor's financer.

>>16829372
If she thought that there was any possibility that she "couldn't make Holofes" then she is genuinely retarded.

>>16829372
>>16829501
Anon, that was for the Sportsfest, you goddamn oaf.

>>16829389
I just tried to sum it up as best as I can.

>>16829352
You forgot the part that $250 is worth $2000 in superchats

>>16829389
but thats like, not their call to make. People trying to tell vtubers how to appear/act is schizo behavior. At the end of the day she's human, let her do as she pleases.

>>16829602
That is absolutely their call to make when she is using the hololive persona during it.

>>16829639
it's not their call to make because they don't own Hololive or the persona. hard concept to grasp for you I'm sure

>>16829671
Hololive supports absolutely have the right to decide what things do and don't belong in hololive and what they shouldn't associate with.
You are not her friend, stop acting otherwise. If you do something that is bad for the company while representing it, then you deserve every ounce of flak you get.

Why do westerners defend shitty behavior and have 0 standards? Where did your parents go wrong?

>>16828472
Yes.

>>16829352
Based Mori not caving in to cancelfags and putting her money where her mouth is.

Fuck unicorns and fuck SEAniggers

>>16829749
muh womans rights

that's why. taking responsibility for your fellow man is outdated in the west.

>Makes schizos like (You) seethe
>Gets to talk to multiple Vtubers while (You) cry your incel tears and struggle at talking to real women
>Respects the normal members of the V-tuber fandom while rightfully calling (You) a retard
how can one man be so based?

>>16829849
>Respects the normal members of the V-tuber fandom while rightfully calling (You) a retard

I generally feel your point but thinking Conner has any opinion on Vtuber fans aside from them being obessive, preadatory or pathetic is pure fantasy.

>muh controlled narrative, muh falseflagging
guess we reddit nao

>>16829749
>>you are not her friend
and what you're her fucking boss? you're clearly not either so why do you fucking care?

>> bad for the company
yeah thats schizo, take your meds if you think hololive cares even remotely that much. They would've outlined boundaries before this if they actually gave a fuck. she barely got a slap on the wrist calm the fuck down.

>>shitty behavior
Schizo andy trying to reeeee about nothing is shitty behavior, please kys

>>16828472
No

>aka supa hate comment targeted towards connor
>mori donates 50 subs to cdawg and makes /vt/ mald

I'm thinking based

Personally I can't wait til she graduates and follows her true calling as a 500 yen streetwalker

mori graduation when?

>>16829962
I can't wait for her to graduate of her own will in like a year thinking she's some big shot rapper personality, only to fall flat on her dumb gaijin face, ultimately becoming a fucking twitch thot who drinks herself to sleep live on stream, then resorting to comissioning a new Calli "inspired" Live2D, only to also not regain even 10% of her former success.

All the while the rest of EN never talks about her and starts banning the words "Mori" and "Calli" from their chats.

>>16829962
fun thing is even if she graduates right now with a scandal she is gonna be very much set for life since exit strategy is laid down almost perfectly. While i don't approve any of her actions and consider her at best mediocre performer, bitch is grinding and nailing it down, well played.

>>16830106
She'd do it for the love of the game anon

somebody should make a "calli anti" bingo card and fill it with the most common "points" these autists make. make a game out of it for the non retards of this board

>>16829786
Certainly seems like it. People in the west seem to have no concept of consequences for their actions.
>>16829908
>and what you're her fucking boss?
Do you think hololive can survive with their viewers?
>yeah thats schizo
Which is why companies spend a ton of money for PR, right? Which is why Hitomi Chris (no doubt you have no clue who that is, newfag) got fired. Protip: it was cause she did something that would make the company look bad.
You clearly have no idea how corporations work so you should just go back to tumblr or wherever you retards congregate.

Come back when you actually have some life experience and are mentally capable of discussing things like an adult.

>>16829962
Pretty sure she would have to leave Japan unless she got a job at TT cause her work visa would be invalid.

>>16830243
Yo look at this microsoft CEO pulling the plug on Holo because of TT. Sit the fuck down you jobless hikki.

Mori is only viewed as a mistake by the shrieking androphobes and castrati of the regressive /vt/, whose identitarian ideology sees any description of difference as a value judgement that is negative towards the group which is higher on the neo-marxist hierarchy. These patronizing fools automatically assume that Mori is to blame by default, so when Mori describes the difference between friends and coworkers with great care and numerous caveats, they are incapable of understanding that her thoughts on the subject are descriptive, and not at all prescriptive.

I have listened to all of TT's streams that are published on YouTube, and I have never heard they saying anything that could be construed as denigrating Hololive: quite the opposite. He openly acknowledges the fact that Hololive it is where it is because of it's talents. connur's now under far greater pressure for saying your average Hololive vtuber get their act together with great ease than most youtubers, due to brand realities that are absurdly denied by his social constructionist opponents on /vt/. In his clinical practice, he has coached vshojo to be more assertive in demanding wages commensurate with their talents and productivity.

Lastly, Mori never fails to speak of her TT's friends and coworkers on hololive with the greatest respect. Of course, nothing I have written will mean anything to those competing in the schizo Olympics: for them, her being a transparent person is all the evidence /vt/ will ever need of her essential betrayal, laziness, toxicity, dumbness, et cetera, ad nauseam.

>>16829783
spacing gave you away

>>16830405
damn based complicated words anon.

>>16830405
Don't you fucking dare put castrati in the same box as VT you insufferable faggot, those fuckers had talent and because of it were wronged in one of the worst possible ways.

>>16830405
p-pink woman bad

>>16830452
ratio

>>16830498
the fuck does that even mean
talk like a human for once in your life

>>16830405
Here's a (you) for trying.

>>16830405
conner leave you need to get a VA job outside youtube trash

>>16830452
>using separate paragraphs is reddit

oh noes, we full on twitter nao

>>16830557
yes and it always has been
welcome to 4chan, tourist

>>16828472
Because of this I hate mori naw.

>>16828472
What happened with everyone hating Ina a few days ago?

>>16830243
>comparing underage prostitution with hanging out with non-vtubera
rumao, this is beyond meds

>>16830631
takomod is ruthless son of a gun

5%

>>16830682
The other 95% is spent working behind the scenes!!! On her knees

>>16830579
Fuck off election tourist, "reddit spacing" wasn't a thing until 2014 when it became a to-go response to a post longer than paragraph you had no arguments against

>>16830189
why do you redditors come here if any shit drama makes you chimp out, go back to your hugbox

>>16830718
>2014
Thats some expat shit, cmon,

>>16830405
>Not heard it on Trash Taste that means they have never talked shit about Hololive
Now let me give you an example https://youtu.be/Q5ZHcqBumPc here we have Joey (theanimeman) one of the TT boys talking shit about Nene and her fans and tries to blame Nene for beauty stamdards getting worse in Japan, and no that is not a narrative that I just pulled out of my ass that is something he did...

Meanwhile Connor talked about Hololive while being on Ironmouse's stream

Funnily enough they appear on video in other places than Trash Taste, so you saying that they did not talk shit on Trash Taste means nothing, because obviously Bookwalker and Kadokawa would not allow them to do that

>>16830631
That's last week anon and exhausted its (you) supply, just wait for the schizos to find the next nothingburger to make 10 threads a day about it next week

>>16830243
You're trying to tell people what they can / can't do based on your willingness to compensation them. Say it with me "that's not how real life it works"

>people in the west
no its we have a higher tolerance of freedom and are more forgiving of others mistakes, but this isn't a mistake or anything, this is about a schizo who can't accept that humans dolls on strings. If you think calli being defensive of people she likes is bad behavior then you must not have any friends to have a relatable situation.

>>16830815
I kinda liked more hating on Ina, Mori isn't interesting to me. No challenge.

>>16830745
to laugh at you, vt_takes got banned

>>16830849
fuck off and keep your filthy shitposting hands off Ina

The only thing she did wrong was let that message get to her. Ignore. Don't give them the satisfaction.

Mori's great and one of the hardest workers in the game.

>>16829849
>Respect the normal members
TTfags actually believe this

>>16830856
And making a new account on Twiiter is apparently too hard for any of you tourists

>>16830833
Let me put it into simplistic terms so that your tiny brain is capable of understanding it:
Karen can do whatever the fuck she wants with who she wants.
Mori cannot.

>>16830936
she can and did, and will probably do again. But it appears your brain is the one unable to grasp reality.

>>16830936
>Mori cannot.
but she did, and she WILL keep getting away with it

Yes, absolutely, nice threat, have a bump.

>>16830992
>>16831007
Gonna be funny when she graduates this year.
Twitter troons will be on suicide watch.

>>16830936
Exactly and she's not breaking any rules, that you deem someone as ''problematic'' for some out of context and poor worded stuff doesn't mean jackshit.

>>16831051
>She is going to graduate this year
Rumao, see you next year when you say it again

>cannurgate threads flash flushed by mods except single one with reigned in opinion
>another one instantly created for tourist whiteknights and shitposters to push the narrative
damn /pol/ has nothing on /vt/ shenanigans, pure kino, bravo

>>16831249
mods are fags
been that way since 2004

>>16830936
she can do whatever she wants actually
t. ex-redditor and male feminist graduated in gender studies

idk if anons are shitposting or the recent drama attracted a horde of whiteknights from leddit and twitter

>>16828472
Wait what ? Drama ended ? No graduation no breakdown ? 2 of my threads died yesterday for this shit and nothing happened ?! Bitch better graduate or cry on stream idk i want something to happen

>>16831572
Lots of schizos crying, if that's any consolation.

Can hololive acknowledge vshoujo or any other groups? I thought they would be forbidden to to publicly talk about out of network stuff.

I hope holoEN gets its act together, seems like they all have some problem or another

>>16831601
And i thought /vt/ had some power..

>>16831659
I mean, the people reeing about Mori were a pretty small fraction of /vt/. The last time /vt/ was truly united on something, Artia graduated though /vt/ had nothing to do with it kek.

it's blue e-commerce board after all, see you tomorrow shitposters. Nice defuse morimod.

>>16831604
mori collab with ironemouse and kiara did one with nyanners

>>16830772
TLDW on the video and why this anon is a faggot:

Joey talks about how ridiculous is that a 2D model made it to the most beautiful woman in that magazine, not the roomate, but the 2D avatar, in no moment he called Nene boring, talentless, undeserving, his fans are shit or anything, there are many times in the video where he actually praises Nene, just that is ridiculous watching a 2D avatar on a list of 3D woman.

He doesn't blame Nene for the beauty standards getting higher, he calls out that putting a 2d avatar is setting the bar higher for the beauty schizos in Japan, not normal teenage girls, but the beauty schizos that undergo 54654654 surgeries to possibly try and look like an anime girl. That was it

And the connor stuff is so fucking out of context i won't even try to explain it.

>>16831659
The only thing /vt/ accomplished was getting mocked on youtube.

>>16831766
Oh that’s cool, surprising but cool.

I’d like to see an uncensored gura and Nyanners collab. Based on guras pre hololive content they would be two peas in a pod

>>16831779
sounds like a retarded take from a moron. he should probably stick to anime

>>16829849
>living the dream life in Japan
>Ollie thirsting for him
>Calli thirsting for him
>Ironmouse thirsting for him
>JAV star Shibuya Kaho grooming him, making him dress up in Japanese maid cafes and then pegging him
how can one man be so based?

>>16831943
I don't think it would be as good now because of current Gura is (not bad but different now). I agree it would be great if it was with pre-hololive Gura
>>16831766
It just so happens Mori and Ironmouse have another collab coming up next week.

>>16831779
>Joey talks about how ridiculous is that a 2D model made it to the most beautiful woman in that magazine
He's either a retard or simply made the video to clickbait, because the list is by no means about beautiful women, it's was just female e-celebs that the people (99% women because playboy japan is a women magazine) voted for. It doesn't matter how you try to sugarcoat it, the video was made with the sole purpose to make a drama out of nothing for clickbait since it's about a holo member, and he had to invent a narrative for it to even make sense, and supposedly this is the guy that actually knows japanese, yet he couldn't (or didn't want to because it would destroy his clickbait video) read the fucking title of the article

>>16829473
mori's like a 6 at best, not a huge L

>>16829849
>>16832007
Connor just can't stop winning

>>16831960
Not that much anon, japanese beauty schizos are fucked in the head for real and the ridiculousness of putting a 2D avatar in that magazine would be almost equal to that time marge simpson made it on playboy, it's a hard ''uhm... cool but why?''

>>16828472
Fuck no.

>>16831779
>Joey talks about how ridiculous is that a 2D model made it to the most beautiful woman in that magazine
It appears that you are the faggot here cause that list was about influential, not beautiful women.
not even gonna bother reading more cause you already fucked up

>>16828472
>>16828535
filthy samefag

>>16828472
Waiting for her to khs

>>16829283
then you have to realize that she will be the cause of the sinking

Dunno what the fuck's wrong with you holobronies.
You're gonna come on here and say Mori is controlled by a human being and then, in the same breath, consider her beyond reproach?
She made a mistake and she needs to learn from it, simple as. That's how you improve as a person and in her case, as a performer. It's always black and white for you westerners.

>>16832213
Well, the thing is that she didn't make a mistake.

>>16832125
You don't even know what the poll was about, why are you talking as if you know? Nothing wrong with Nene being in there

>>16828472
what did I miss? I take a break from this board for like a day and now she's innocent?

>>16832288
Always was.

>>16828619
What ever that post was he was Based

>>16832319
yeah I'm not believing deadbraps. every holoEN drama so far has come from Mori Calliope. Her next TT appearance for 2022 will generate hate for her again

>>16831119
Running “context” interference

>>16831431
50% shitposters and tourism
50% deadbeats
100% concentrated power of autism

>>16832251
She bit the bait of a delusional retard clearly looking for a fight, and gave him said fight and the drama he wanted.
The way she knee-jerked to it using her professional account made her look petty enough that even her members commented on her VOD yet again, timelooping all the way back to June.

if you want the real hard take I don't think most of myth can sing in general.

>>16832549
en was never advertised as idols of course they can't sing
at least orange woman can dance

>>16828472
>Fishnets under tank top
Why are her clothes so sluttish? Even Choco-sensei dresses more seiso

>>16832549
Exactly. If Yagoo was serious about them being Idols he would want them to be able to sing. I guess some wigger who can't rap for shit was the best thing he could find.

>>16828834
Connor and his Trash Taste fags shat on Nene and afterwards said Hololive is a place where talentless hacks can lie on their resume, get hired and be set for life.
Concerned fans complained about her collabing with people who openly shit on her teammates and she had a meltdown for a couple days against the chat and defending Connor, while saying he had apologized to everyone. Kiara denies anyone ever apologized to her so Mori was lying (typical), but she doubled down.
Someone donated $250 dollars for her to buy Connor condoms since she loves him so much, but she got triggered at the thought someone could tell her to buy condoms and donated $250 to Connor so he'd buy it herself.
After a few cuckbeats surprisingly took issue with that she announced that she WILL give any superchats criticizing Connor to him so he can buy XXL jumbo double skinned condoms

>>16832791
>Connor and his Trash Taste fags shat on Nene and afterwards said Hololive is a place where talentless hacks can lie on their resume, get hired and be set for life.

>>16828472
She didn't do anything.
Period.
This place is literally too I'll to function.

>>16833083
literally no one cares outside of /vt/

>>16828472
This girl allowed her friends say people oshis ARE talentless Just because the Guy fuck the braper ass.

>>16832791
Let me try; Connor said that Hololive is instant success regardless of your level of talent, implying that he thinks one or more of them are untalented. Which is probably true, both him thinking it and the fact that Hololive talents get numbers beyond their ability because of a popular brand. Did he actually apologize? Probably not. Did he need to? Probably not. Why did Mori lie about it? She's a fag.
Second; Man married or dating whatever the fuck the fat faced race AkiDearest is has to run coverage for ugly girls. Busy work.
Guy obviously from /here/ sends money to throw Mori and this board into a shitfit. Works on a truly impressive level because both have the grace and intelligence of Lanky Kong.

>>16828472
Never even liked her in the first place since she said that she applied as a joke and then barely put any effort for almost a year. Sure, she did a lot of work behind the scenes, but then cover should have hired her to be behind the scenes as a songwriter / producer or whatever she was doing for other girls. Actually now that I think about it, I blame cover more than Mori. They are doing the same shit that club owners do when they hire DJ's for gigs (I was a part of that world so I can only compare it with that) where its more important to them who has more instagram / twitter/ tiktok followers than the quality of the content that they produced. They saw that she is a mildly popular brapper that already has the numbers and decided to hire her. I mean sure, they hired some 2views too but for the most part that is how it goes. That or...nepotism.

>>16828682
Im so glad this never happened before holoen. Jp holos are pure and dont break immersion

>regardless of your level of talent
he didnt use the word talent, he didnt imply anything. Is it so hard to not misrepresent and not make up schizo narratives?

> I blame cover
So you gonna go watch Ayame and Aqua etc? Who are proper streamers unlike Mori who just works behind the scenes

>>16828472
Instead of malding and spamming /vt/ i'll just not watch the great value eminem.

>>16832549
>>16832608
I think Gura has a good singing voice but my family dislikes it. Oh boy don't even get me started on their opinions on Calli's music

>>16833832
>comparing collabs with a well loved japanese comedian to a bunch of barely literate zoomers that shit talk your own audience
deadbeats are actually fucking stupid

>>16834220
>with a well loved japanese comedian
i dont know him

> bunch of barely literate zoomers
literally most popular youtubers in the target audience and community (weebs, anime fans) . They didnt shittalk anyone, they echo common beliefs that arent even false, keep coping.

>>16834408
> I don't know him
then why the hell did you use that as the crux of your argument?

>>16833242

Learn proper grammar you god damned zoomer failure.

>>16828472
best en holo, i would watch her even without virtual model and camera, she is very down to earth person among all of them
massive respect to her

>>16834537
because it invalidates your argument? Youre acting like its some new thing and acting like youtuber and vtuber in a thumbnail is a big deal
>But.. t-t-that's not the same!
cope and seethe

>>16834408
>they echo common beliefs that arent even false
I don't think a single soul has even thought something similar about Joey's rant about Nene

>>16829602
I mean as fans they can they can shitpost and yell about how they dont like it they dont have to watch you. You dont have to act the way others want you to but they can always talk shit when you dont

>>16828472
Yeah

>>16834689
his rant isnt even about Nene, maybe watch the video. Or you just repeat regurgitated opinions here?

>>16829250
>completely pants-on-head delusional retelling of events
>that's the gist of it. Everything else is speculation or autists reaching

>>16834734
>his rant isnt even about Nene
It isn't about Nene when he specifically mentions that her calling her viewers husbands is weird and manipulative? Also yeah I'm sure he was REALLY worried about the beauty standards in Japan getting warped despite the fact that the article isn't even about beauty

>>16834685
I wasn't even the same anon, you just sounded like a moron who picked up some picture you don't know the content of, is all.

Why is everyone shitting on dad?

>>16834805
calling your viewers husbands is weird even if it is a pun.

>>16834814
You dont know shit about him either, youre just a clipfag moron.

>>16834968
Yeah, you and me both it seems.

>>16828472
She never belonged in Hololive, she even said as much after her debut.

>>16828472

Regardless of autistic retard donators, you are literally playing a character, like an actor. From the get go she should have completely separated her irl shit or previous stuff from hololive, this would be the same for literally any member. If you worked for a company and actively endorsed or supported someone who, on a very public and shared platform, talks badly about the company, you would get fired.

>>16835069
>someone who, on a very public and shared platform, talks badly about the company,
literally didn't happen

>>16835040
Sounds like typical loser coping mechanism
>if shit goes south
W-well I never really belong with them anyways
>if shit goes well
I’m so unique and against the norm, I’ll talk crap about the only reason anyone has ever heard of her

>>16834408
>i dont know him
I know, you already proved that you're a retard.
>They didnt shittalk anyone
Nene. Remind me again why isn't she deserving a spot on a poll of the most influental women in Japan when it is a poll?

Deadbeats are literal cancer.

>>16835124
a very normal response to the totally unimaginable take that "maybe an anime character shouldn't be brigaded by terminally online retards into being polled as one of the most influential women in japan"

>>16835219
>Japanese people are not allowed to vote for people that are influential in their society

>>16835257
said no one ever

>>16835291
So a poll of many people is wrong then?
Or are you going to imply that Vtubers are not influential?
https://twitter.com/japancons_ny/status/1462180285764845571
https://twitter.com/famima_now/status/1484450702663438342

You're a grade A moron.

>>16835422
fictional characters are influential too. all i'm saying is you should maybe not try so hard to be offended by a youtuber saying something you disagree with and people telling you it isn't a big deal when you sperg out over it.

>>16835219
>by terminally online retards
Anon it's a fucking women magazine, women voted for nene

>>16835886
and i thought i was the delusional one

>>16835709
Maybe he shouldn't say stupid things?
Ever considered that?

>call deadbeat delusional
>got warning for trolling
Deadbeats are so thin skin lol

>>16835933
Anon, if it was up to anyone there would be a dozen more holos on that list that are more popular than Nene

>>16828472
>You vill prep ze bull
Fuck her, I used to watch her but this is the last straw. I'm out

>>16835709
low t take. are you a woman or a tranny? either way go chop some wood or something

I hate her because she is living evidence that Conners statement that talentless hacks are set for life in hololive is true.

This causes me to seethe and stay up all night cause I just really hate the Welsh and all their disgusting kind since David Lloyd George

unironically one of the best threads in the board right now

You guys need to stop coping and just admit it's over and she'll be the first one to graduate in her gen

>>16838327
i don't get it

>>16838350
https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/hololive

>>16834220
>zoomers

One is 31, one is 26, one is 27. Zoomers varyingly are said to either begin in 2000, 1997 or 1995, meaning that only Connor would be a zoomer and only under the one that shifts as many late-millennials into the genz category as possible.

>>16828472

>>16832146
Yeah... a playboy list about influential women that lists Nene instead of the most influentual vtuber streamer Pekora or Gura. Take your meds anon.

>>16840841
It's a fucking poll, the women who read playboy JP don't watch Pekora or Gura

>>16830405
>castrati
Didn't know /vt/ could sing catholic church chants

>>16841298
Nothing indicates its a poll it just lists the "most influential people and nowhere does it indicated why nene was chosen over other cover corp members. If you can find a legit source i'll concede though.

>>16840841
it was a "30 under 30" influencers thing

they put nene on because of the time when she mentioned her favorite brand of perfume and it almost instantly sold out

>>16830405
How to type a lot of words with almost no substance: the post.

>>16834067
isn't eminem shilling nfts now?

>>16840841
you're the one that needs to take his meds my retarded redditor

>>16840841
>or Gura
>Japanese poll about the most influental Japanese women
>Gura

Am I typing to genuine, drooling retards here?

Nothing to say about it other than I simply will not watch any collab she does with TT cause I think anitubers are not entertaining.

Jump King isn't either.

>le expat english-teacher meme
She's belonged in the ground long before she even joined Hololive

>>16830405
Too many big words for your average /vt/ anon to understand.

>>16832549
It's not really that they can't sing, but most of them are just really untrained. Like Gura sometimes off-tempo from Mori at times during their King duet. Reflections was better since she was doing a solo song.

>>16828472
>39f.jpg

>>16828472
I'll say that Connor did nothing wrong before I say that Mori did nothing wrong. She shit the bed in such a peculiar way

>>16848221
Unironically this
t.Mori hater

>>16828472
We can all agree deadbeats are the big on NTR porn
They'd send her money to hear her moans while Connor fucks her

>>16835974
I find it hilarious Calli made a fanbase comprised solely of snowflakes and crybabies. How did it happen, why are they like this when even Nyanners and Kiara who constantly throw shit at the fan for the lulz , have simps that tend to be slightly less awful??

Condom money for cunter and TT crew dead cucks are beyond hope.

Where the fuck are you people coming from

>>16829639
What do you mean? Are you trying to say that the actions of the vtuber should be dictated by random audience members?

>>16830243
Anon, just because a company would like to have you as a consumer does not mean they have to cater to you. You are expendable to them, there are ten thousand others they can have as consumers. They are not beholden to what you want. Stop making a fool out of yourself and don't get so damn emotional about anime girls

>>16828472
whore

>>16848885
They’re anti’s. Just ignore and report any on sight.

>>16843950
it is a fact that chumbuds are retarded

>>16848885
whiteknight redditor are raiding this board

I don't these threads, you just shout into the void because nobody wants to solve the problem.
If the problem is unsolvable, then there is no problem.

>>16831779
As long as he didnt shittalk Nene I don't care

>>16848426
I would

>>16834849
Why are you defending fucking TT over nene you giant autismo homo? Get the fuck off this board

>>16848885
From Reddit most likely

>>16849173
>yes be a good goy and consoooom

>>16830405
thats a lot of fancy words anon but you still sound ESL

>>16831779
Why do you TT fags go so hard in defending them.
It wasn't a 3D list, it was a list of influential women, and Playboy lists of these sorts have often included fictional characters, which this magazine is only affiliated with in name. Nene is also not just a 2D character but an avatar for a specific person.
It was just a bad take. Why is that so hard to accept?

>>16861514
>Can't win arguement, better call them some names to invalid their points!
The peak of vt brainrot

>>16830579
>he doesn't know that was a made up meme to out newfags like you that parrot it

>>16828472
Can't forgive her. She hasn't given me paizuri, wakizuri, feetzuri, handzuri, and many more zuri.

>>16828472
No.

>>16828472
>mumei comes on her stream
>suddenly doing holostars collabs with whore bae and ollie

>she talks endlessly about TT to the point where Kiara gets asked about it
>Kiara mysteriously asks later if she can collab with males

She is pure poison for the idol formula.

it's a good day to be a cuckbeat

>>16866434

>>16867233
And now she goes out of her way to specifically reply to all males possible. Even Niji. What a time to be alive.
t. former ghostbeat

>>16867233
Holy shit lmfao

>>16856616
Because there's some weird need for these people to defend faggots who are only looking to get more viewers. I don't care that they're popular with the milquetoast western anime crowd, they're still here to grab views and would have never approached Mori if she wasn't Mori Calliope, the Hololive rapping reaper which is depressing as fuck.

>>16867233
graduation when

>>16867233
This is literally nothing compared to her propagating drama. Her buddy lives off of creating a little drama which is why he didn't just ignore the twitter post bringing up a months old drama. He wanted to talk about it again to get people looking at him again and Mori decided to follow through and talk about it causing one of her regular SC'ers and member to make a comment on why she'd choose to side with him. She handled it poorly as fuck, blew up on that SC and got trolled into doing even more stupid shit. Stop making it about the MALE and start making it about inviting drama-invested retarded content creators into the sphere.

>>16867233
What is peoples' beef with that guy?

>>16850220
cuckbeats mentality

to any deadbeats here, i am genuinely asking, not even trying to rile up some shit,
why are you turning blind eye about TT and its audiences who openly shittalking about the entire vtubing/otaku debacle? like, some anons would just posting yt link and timesamps and everyone seems ignoring it.
are you guys actually supporting these behaviour?
i'd hate to imagine you shitting my oshis for no reason other than parroting these guys

>>16828472
The age-old adage always applies, imo. Do not feed the trolls. Report and hide, do not reply. Do not give them (you)s. Of course those akasupas are attention-seeking whores. Mori, better known as Calli, appears to have a habit of constantly falling for such underhanded tactics.

>>16838678
its a cringe site that has a weird way of tabulating data. theoretically it would be something like r/okaybuddyretardhololive or r/vtuber or some shit that has overlap not fucking azurelane grandorder. how do i know, i tried it as part of a different sub plebbit.

>>16875197
Because the TT guys never trash talked vtubing. In the video Joey was jerking off Nene saying she was cute and entertaining his main gripe was how we as a society are beginning to use anime characters as a standard of beauty. Also the Connor RRat is proly the most cringe out of context thing. He was talking to Iron mouse about lying in job interviews to get a position you aren't qualified for. Connor believes realistically most people lie so that once you get a job it's not like they can just fire you for being mildly exaggerated on your resume. Mouse who has no real world experience said that the entertainment industry was different so Connor used hololive to present the idea that if someone lied to get into hololive they would still find success even if they were untalented in this hypothetical scenario, he never once states anyone in hololive is talentless. That was just a rrat that was baited on twitter. Here and there they will say some minor stuff about parasocial relationships and about how some people take the idol culture too far and as we have seen in the last 3 days they aren't far off.

>>16876055
>saying she was cute and entertaining his main gripe was how we as a society are beginning to use anime characters as a standard of beauty
Fuck off. Joey has no idea who Nene is or what she does. Anime characters are a standard of beauty and this is not an issue.

>>16876147
Yikes, touch grass and get over your porn addiction man.

>>16876055
>his main gripe was how we as a society are beginning to use anime characters as a standard of beauty
Bullshit. Even braindead retards already know that's been going on for decades, and even if we very generously assume that was the main thrust it does nothing to explain or excuse him portraying Nene as manipulating her audience for profit.

>>16836413

That's the thing, though. She's not talentless. She's incredibly talented at making horrible generic music in a country that doesn't understand the genre of music she's butchering, so she gets the exposure because anime girl rapping lmaooo.

What she has no knowledge of is actually streaming, which is the most infuriating aspect about her. I don't get a single ounce of joy out of watching her play like a fucking retard at every god damn game she even tries to play. But hey, she says FAQ and calls people bitches while talking like a wigger from Miami.

>>16876055
>In the video Joey was jerking off Nene saying she was cute and entertaining his main gripe was how we as a society are beginning to use anime characters as a standard of beauty.
then he's retarded. unrealistic beauty standards have always existed, if anything vtubing is a great equalizer as all you need is someone to make a model for you, which can be updated/changed at whim.

>Connor believes realistically most people lie so that once you get a job it's not like they can just fire you for being mildly exaggerated on your resume.
then he's a gigantic retard. there's a 6 month "training" period for a reason. they don't just hire people and put them infront of a camera in the space of days.

>>16876997
So what just because something shitty has been happening for a while he can't talk about it. He says "she has a good grasp on her male audience". Yeah he is not right about this he never called her a manipulator he says she understands the dynamics between herself and her fans. Lets not sit here and pretend that she doesn't play the parasocial game like every other vtuber or twitch thot. calling all of her fans husbands... like cmon she isn't even subtle and obviously you guys are coming to white knight her rn. I enjoy Nene's content but you guys have lost touch. But if you guys wanna ignore what I said and run with the Joey is calling Nene a manipulator think about who likely knows more about the real Nene, randos who only get to see a character or the guy who has direct connections with her that include cover managers, Mori, and now Kson.

>>16828472
Yep, that's our Mori! She's so kind and skilled and always right. Anybody who thinks she did anything wrong must have bad morals!

>>16877490
If you actually watched streams, you'd know that nene calls her fans her husbands because people kept asking her (and other holo's at the time) to be their wife, so she basically went "no you" and turned it against them. As for having "direct contact" with nene; you're retarded, even other holo's struggle to get in touch with each other, why would some rando faggot whose only connection is cali "5%" mori be in touch with her? He can't even get in touch with kiara or ame.

>>16877473
Except Joey clarifies that we are trying to compare real women with physical imperfections and flaws to 2d characters.

Except Connors point was a complete hypothetical to prove a point to mouse, whether or not holos are talented irl is irrelevant.

I get shitting on TT but if we are gonna shit on people at least have a valid reason to.

https://youtu.be/dF-2VsOfv8o

>Nene grooms a 12 year old on stream

Fuck you if it wasn't cute as hell. Cope harder, you're a lying little bitch if you don't want a Japanese woman to tell you you're cute.

>>16877794

Noel openly sexualizes little boys. This is nothing.

>>16829283
i mean, she's the one that's looking for a way out

>>16877490
>Lets not sit here and pretend that she doesn't play the parasocial game like every other vtuber or twitch thot. calling all of her fans husbands...
trash taste fans confirmed antis. Fuck off back to Vshoujo, we don't want you shitting up our fandom.

>>16877709
Oh no my parasocial relationship is not parasocial because it's a joke on her end but I still believe it deep down.

>>16877794
Based Nene I wish I could get UOOOOH by Nene

>>16877490
>calling all of her fans husbands
Bog-standard Nene joke that has nothing to do with a "parasocial relationship". You don't watch streams. Fuck off.

>>16877734
>Except Joey clarifies that we are trying to compare real women with physical imperfections and flaws to 2d characters.
The women used as beauty standards are airbrushed magazine models. there's really not much difference between them and 2d, except that anyone can become 2D if they can get a model made.
>Except Connors point was a complete hypothetical to prove a point to mouse, whether or not holos are talented irl is irrelevant.
>You don't have to be a good streamer to get in
How would he know this if he didn't think there were talentless holo's? If he thought they were all deserving of their popularity then hololive shouldn't even be a comparison.

>>16830076
Finally caught Mori's roommate stream. She spent 2 hours trying to regain a fraction of her success and fell asleep live on stream. Great entertainer she is.

>>16833386
Don't you talk shit about Lanky Kong. He may have no style or grace, but at least he has a funny face.

>>16878122
Yeah except the 2d model isn't limited by age, having to do makeup, or having to airbrush every single time you take a picture. The point is retarded ass kids are gonna look at that and get 20000 surgeries to look like an anime character to match an impossible standard. You can say it's a good or bad take idc but the point is Joey wasn't targeting vtubing or hololive which is crux of hate.

Because it's a hypothetical made to prove a point with the most obvious convenient point being hololive. Seeing as it's a company that once you join you pretty much do get success so lying on a resume would be beneficial. Also hes talking to a vtuber that is deathly ill that can't go outside with 0 life experience Vtuber companies are probably the best reference point for an entertainment industry.
>You don't have to be a good streamer to get in
He's saying for the sake of the hypothetical you lie and pretend to be a good streamer thus your not actually a good streamer.
(p.s you don't need to be a good streamer i'm a tako cuck and will admit ina isn't a great streamer neither is mori since they have 0 streaming experience but they have gotten better which I'm glad to see.)

>>16834849
crawl into a toilet with your entire body and pull the the seat closed over your head

She did everything wrong.

https://youtu.be/olNIZrjQaog

I work on a military vessel that tours around the west pacfic ensuring the Chinese don't get handsy with Taiwan. I keep Nene in my rack, and another Nene in my work console. When China moves to take Taiwan I will be there to fight them. And Nene will be with me too.

>>16878865

>>16834849
Fucking faggot zoomer

cuckbeat is the worst breed of fans no contest

>>16828472
>can we all agree that she did nothing wrong?
no

>>16835123
>Sounds like typical loser coping mechanism
It is

>>16878865
You remind me of the military bronies from back when MLP was big.

>>16828472
maybe

>>16877734
>Except Joey...
>Except Connors...
why are you clarifying or explaining them so vehemntly?? are they your pimps? did they dicked you down into submission on subcouncious loyalty?
Have some dignity bitch, those faggots don't deserve to be explained

I can't believe we have actual unironic Trash Taste defenders. Where are all the fags who said nothing would happen with Mori collabing with these morons? We're inundated with these niggers now.

>>16891111
Quads of truth.

>>16891111
our retarded safe space is invaded! im fucking devastated

>>16894695
like the tranny in the cuckbeat general lol

>>16829250
>>16829352

>>16894875
fucking loooooong!!!!!!!!! did not read. holy shit, the length! so many words

>>16875290
ironically deadbeats in yt comments don't seem to agree

>>16829352
Incredibly based

>>16890905
>why are you clarifying or explaining them so vehemntly?? are they your pimps? did they dicked you down into submission on subcouncious loyalty?
Those fucking reddit spaces speak for themselves anon.

>>16894989
sup cuck

>>16890905
Because the amount of misinformation on this board is stunning which leads to low quality rrats

I still have absolutely no idea what it was that she supposedly did, but it's something related to that connor guy?
did something actually happen or is it just yet another case of mental illness on /vt/ ?

>>16897972
Everything that appears on this board is a sign of mental illness.

>>16897972
>i'm a retard please listen to me!!!!

>>16868613
He cooks his rice weird

Also he’s British

>>16830106
doesn't really matter to me desu
she could make millions, I only care about her leaving not being unsuccessful or miserable
She is a poison in the company, but I don't hate her because of this

>>16828472
She didn't rest those DDs on my face

>>16898439
>mori bad because...uh...SHE JUST IS OK

>>16831779
>And the connor stuff is so fucking blatantly insulting to the girls i can't even try to spin it.
fixd

>>16876055
>because the TT guys never trash talked vtubing
Hey here's a free tip, when you start your post with a widely known, blatantly objective lie anything you type after that is disregarded

>>16828472
never ever

I hate Connor and dislike mori for the wigger shit but I also despise delusional idolfags, someone tell me what to think

>>16899455
Here's a tip don't believe spoonfed shit on this board without fact checking anything

>>16828472
she is the gate that will allow the unwanted to cross over into holoEN and hololive in general, same with ollie

>>16830405
The problem is anitubers bro, they all need to be shot

>mori finally didnt get away with something
>deadcucks in shambles
Inb4 no one else cares!!!
Good go there and dont come back with your sick fetish.

>>16832213
>ywnbj
Fuck off connor

>>16830815
Why were people hating Ina recently? I've been away from vtubers for a while.

>>16867233
This whore needs to leave hololive...

https://youtu.be/55IspCO8loY

Imagine still using him as a spearhead for cuckposting. He's so head-over-heels with Mousey.

>>16903986
he's just a leech

>>16904045
If he was a leech, then why isn't he at least trying with Kson? She's right there.

>>16891111
Checked and based
Mori needs to kill herself to redem her actions

>>16903899
>Ina got sama into hololive so people were screaming nepotism ignoring previous instances of nepotism in hololive like pekora
>Retards also got mad when ina scolded people for being backseat cringes during a guilty gear collab with more and they sperged out
>they say she hates her fans cus of not reading supas or something
So basically like every vt drama it's overblown and retards freak out over what is essentially nothing.

>>16832549
Nigger. When im gone by gura is unironically great.

>>16843839
and?

>>16830405
I believe this post was made either under the influence of alcohol or of sleep depravation.

>>16897930
so that's you excuse to become a faggot?

>>16828472
I mean personally I never watched or cared for trash taste at all. I don't give a fuck enough to watch some random podcast Andys talk about boring shit for hours.

However from the sounds of it, one of the dudes basically said fuck hololive and then Calli gargled his cock and said "b-b-but he's my friend! He didn't mean it!"

To me it sounds like Calli is just afraid to stand her ground against her own friend despite them literally insulting her job and coworkers/friends. And just for that alone I don't respect her.

>>16828472
About the Connor stuff? I don't care about that.
What I want her to do is give a fuck about her genmates and hololive.

>>16910774
she does and youre a retard.

>>16830405
cringe

I miss Mori

mori graduation when

>>16830405
In my younger and more vulnerable years my father gave me some advice that I've been turning over in my mind ever since.

"Whenever you feel like criticizing any one," he told me, "just remember that all the people in this world haven't had the advantages that you've had."

He didn't say any more, but we've always been unusually communicative in a reserved way, and I understood that he meant a great deal more than that. In consequence, I'm inclined to reserve all judgments, a habit that has opened up many curious natures to me and also made me the victim of not a few veteran bores. The abnormal mind is quick to detect and attach itself to this quality when it appears in a normal person, and so it came about that in college I was unjustly accused of being a politician, because I was privy to the secret griefs of wild, unknown men. Most of the confidences were unsought—frequently I have feigned sleep, preoccupation, or a hostile levity when I realized by some unmistakable sign that an intimate revelation was quivering on the horizon; for the intimate revelations of young men, or at least the terms in which they express them, are usually plagiaristic and marred by obvious suppressions. Reserving judgments is a matter of infinite hope. I am still a little afraid of missing something if I forget that, as my father snobbishly suggested, and I snobbishly repeat, a sense of the fundamental decencies is parcelled out unequally at birth.

And, after boasting this way of my tolerance, I come to the admission that it has a limit. Conduct may be founded on the hard rock or the wet marshes, but after a certain point I don't care what it's founded on. When I came back from the East last autumn I felt that I wanted the world to be in uniform and at a sort of moral attention forever; I wanted no more riotous excursions with privileged glimpses into the human heart. Only Gatsby, the man who gives his name to this book, was exempt from my reaction—Gatsby, who represented everything for which I have an unaffected scorn. If personality is an unbroken series of successful gestures, then there was something gorgeous about him, some heightened sensitivity to the promises of life, as if he were related to one of those intricate machines that register earthquakes ten thousand miles away. This responsiveness had nothing to do with that flabby impressionability which is dignified under the name of the "creative temperament."—it was an extraordinary gift for hope, a romantic readiness such as I have never found in any other person and which it is not likely I shall ever find again. No—Gatsby turned out all right at the end; it is what preyed on Gatsby, what foul dust floated in the wake of his dreams that temporarily closed out my interest in the abortive sorrows and short-winded elations of men.

>>16830405
>>16926868
My family have been prominent, well-to-do people in this Middle Western city for three generations. The Carraways are something of a clan, and we have a tradition that we're descended from the Dukes of Buccleuch, but the actual founder of my line was my grandfather's brother, who came here in fifty-one, sent a substitute to the Civil War, and started the wholesale hardware business that my father carries on to-day.

I never saw this great-uncle, but I'm supposed to look like him—with special reference to the rather hard-boiled painting that hangs in father's office I graduated from New Haven in 1915, just a quarter of a century after my father, and a little later I participated in that delayed Teutonic migration known as the Great War. I enjoyed the counter-raid so thoroughly that I came back restless. Instead of being the warm centre of the world, the Middle West now seemed like the ragged edge of the universe—so I decided to go East and learn the bond business. Everybody I knew was in the bond business, so I supposed it could support one more single man. All my aunts and uncles talked it over as if they were choosing a prep school for me, and finally said, "Why—ye—es," with very grave, hesitant faces. Father agreed to finance me for a year, and after various delays I came East, permanently, I thought, in the spring of twenty-two.

The practical thing was to find rooms in the city, but it was a warm season, and I had just left a country of wide lawns and friendly trees, so when a young man at the office suggested that we take a house together in a commuting town, it sounded like a great idea. He found the house, a weather-beaten cardboard bungalow at eighty a month, but at the last minute the firm ordered him to Washington, and I went out to the country alone. I had a dog—at least I had him for a few days until he ran away—and an old Dodge and a Finnish woman, who made my bed and cooked breakfast and muttered Finnish wisdom to herself over the electric stove.

It was lonely for a day or so until one morning some man, more recently arrived than I, stopped me on the road.

"How do you get to West Egg village?" he asked helplessly.

I told him. And as I walked on I was lonely no longer. I was a guide, a pathfinder, an original settler. He had casually conferred on me the freedom of the neighborhood.

And so with the sunshine and the great bursts of leaves growing on the trees, just as things grow in fast movies, I had that familiar conviction that life was beginning over again with the summer.

>>16830405
>>16926868
>>16927091
There was so much to read, for one thing, and so much fine health to be pulled down out of the young breath-giving air. I bought a dozen volumes on banking and credit and investment securities, and they stood on my shelf in red and gold like new money from the mint, promising to unfold the shining secrets that only Midas and Morgan and Maecenas knew. And I had the high intention of reading many other books besides. I was rather literary in college—one year I wrote a series of very solemn and obvious editorials for the "Yale News."—and now I was going to bring back all such things into my life and become again that most limited of all specialists, the "well-rounded man." This isn't just an epigram—life is much more successfully looked at from a single window, after all.

It was a matter of chance that I should have rented a house in one of the strangest communities in North America. It was on that slender riotous island which extends itself due east of New York—and where there are, among other natural curiosities, two unusual formations of land. Twenty miles from the city a pair of enormous eggs, identical in contour and separated only by a courtesy bay, jut out into the most domesticated body of salt water in the Western hemisphere, the great wet barnyard of Long Island Sound. they are not perfect ovals—like the egg in the Columbus story, they are both crushed flat at the contact end—but their physical resemblance must be a source of perpetual confusion to the gulls that fly overhead. to the wingless a more arresting phenomenon is their dissimilarity in every particular except shape and size.

I lived at West Egg, the—well, the less fashionable of the two, though this is a most superficial tag to express the bizarre and not a little sinister contrast between them. my house was at the very tip of the egg, only fifty yards from the Sound, and squeezed between two huge places that rented for twelve or fifteen thousand a season. the one on my right was a colossal affair by any standard—it was a factual imitation of some Hotel de Ville in Normandy, with a tower on one side, spanking new under a thin beard of raw ivy, and a marble swimming pool, and more than forty acres of lawn and garden. it was Gatsby's mansion. Or, rather, as I didn't know Mr. Gatsby, it was a mansion inhabited by a gentleman of that name. My own house was an eyesore, but it was a small eyesore, and it had been overlooked, so I had a view of the water, a partial view of my neighbor's lawn, and the consoling proximity of millionaires—all for eighty dollars a month.

Across the courtesy bay the white palaces of fashionable East Egg glittered along the water, and the history of the summer really begins on the evening I drove over there to have dinner with the Tom Buchanans. Daisy was my second cousin once removed, and I'd known Tom in college. And just after the war I spent two days with them in Chicago.

>>16829096
trust me you cant

Bring up the sheckles thing over and over.
Get Jews/ADL to scream.