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What went wrong?

>> No.17165888

>>17165832
Mori forgot to take her pill

>> No.17165910

>>17165832
they didn't give IRyS a new costume or genderswap

>> No.17165956

>>17165832
everything

>> No.17165968
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They stopped quality controlling the talent and just let them do whatever they want.
They will continue to incline and fill their fanbase with normies and ironic weebs.

>> No.17165969

>>17165832
Mori

>> No.17165973

>>17165832
Cuddling money for P-chan

>> No.17166028
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>>17165832
They should've stayed in Japan.

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>>17165832
they left your country, apparently

>> No.17166058

>>17165832
encucks happened

>> No.17166106

>>17165832
>Japanese management
>Chinese shareholders
>White talents
The unholy trinity

>> No.17166241

>>17166058
Project cuckbeat.
Gura, Ame and Ina are very low profile and never take it out their work sphere.
Kiara collab once with Vshitjo and had a somewhat questionable past life and politics.
But Mori is dogshit for doing what she's doing.

>> No.17166343

>>17166058
/thread

>> No.17166675

>>17166058
This but unironically

>> No.17166716

>>17166106
>Black avatar

>> No.17166740

>>17165832
I want /v/ to leave. I really do

>> No.17167116

>>17165832
Reddit Dragon ruined everything

>> No.17167199

>>17167116
This.

>> No.17167222

/vt/

>> No.17167259

>>17166106
>Chinese shareholders
spreading lies

>> No.17167298

>>17167116
Artia ruin everything her fags still spam and spread rrat in 4chan

>> No.17167411

>>17165968
Kek I came here to post this pic. There were two turning points, it becoming popular in early 2020 with clippers and then EN just unleashed a fuckton of undesireable morons.

>> No.17168557

>>17165832
allowing their videos to be broadcasted to SEA cunts like you

>> No.17168565

Vtubing companies come and go and die out. Like Mirai Akari and Friends or Kizuna AI. And eventually Hololive.

If the next big vtubing corpo is reading this, please use this guidelines:
1) You are a corporation, not a group of friends screwing around
2) Your talents must stream minimum 4 times a week. never use their corporation's official accounts and assets for personal use, NEVER involve in politics, they are entertainers. This is bound by contract.
3) Talents must severely diminish activity in their side accounts if not entirely
4) Never stream at buttfuck hours in the middle of night
5) Vtubers belong to the fandom and they need to accept the idea of lewd content and manage it in a sophisticated manner (i.e. "I like big bouncy boob onee-sans" instead of "omg this dude's dick's smegma and semen stinks like ass xd"
6) Social media is for announcements and related manners. Not for socializing and hinting with e-celebs or other companies.
7) Be strict with the artists avatars and riggers, don't just accept art because it's just from a popular artist. And accept fan submissions for new outfits, since they often turn far better than official ones (See Gyaru Okayu)
8) Cut ties with China
9) Quality over quantity. Holomyth proved 5 people are more than enough.
10) No males
11) Never pander to speakers outside English, Japanese or this and that north-western European languages and even maybe Korean.... In short do NOT pander to spics, SEAniggers or HUE monkeys because they will shit up chat for weeks like they did with Korone and Coco.
12) Keep to minimum or avoid low effort garbage like superchat reading, watchalong and just chatting
13) Make sure talents have a non-potato pc

>> No.17168875

>>17165832
Too popular, make subhuman seeth

>> No.17169028

>>17168565
>avoid low effort garbage like superchat reading
Retard, those "low effort" superchat and just chatting streams are how most of their profits are made. How do you expect to rope in an audience that loves you and wants to send you money if you don't foster a parasocial relationship with them and make them feel cared about? Rushia is the top earner for a reason.

>> No.17169114

>>17165888
>Mori forgot to take her pill
You mean she's pregnant with Connor's child?

>> No.17169178

>>17168565
>2) Your talents must stream minimum 4 times a week
Best to just hire either streamers or people who want to do streaming full time, instead of people who use it as a side hussle.
>3) Talents must severely diminish activity in their side accounts if not entirely
I think that is a bit too much, schizos will always dig and dig and dig.
>5) Vtubers belong to the fandom and they need to accept the idea of lewd content and manage it in a sophisticated manner
An important point. Also the company should provide crisis and PR training.
>7) ... And accept fan submissions for new outfits
That's going to damage the chuuba-papa/mama relationship, which the fans enjoy very much. First suggestion I'd say is bad.
>10) No males
It depends on the company. If they're doing the idol route, sure, but otherwise... but they should under no circumstances flirt on stream.
>11) Never pander to speakers outside English, Japanese or this and that north-western European languages and even maybe Korean.... In short do NOT pander to spics, SEAniggers or HUE monkeys because they will shit up chat for weeks like they did with Korone and Coco.
Second bad suggestion. Hololive got as big as it did, because it embraced the gaijin.
>12) Keep to minimum or avoid low effort garbage like superchat reading, watchalong and just chatting
Nigga, that's the money maker. Third bad suggestion.

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>>17165832

>> No.17169215
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you make this thread every week

>> No.17169367

>>17168565
This is retarded and autistic. Seek medical help. You might have brain damage.

>> No.17169372

>17168565
>all of this dumb shit
Allowing Hololive to dictate the perception of vtubers for westerners was a massive mistake.

>> No.17169417

>>17165832
Nothing, autistic anons don't understand the power of nothing-burger controversies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGBZ3ZiuoOY

>> No.17169787

>>17169215
Why the fuck they nerfed him so fucking much, i was eager to see him going batshit crazy on the movies and yet...

>> No.17170626

>>17168565
>Your talents must stream minimum 4 times a week.
>Quality over quantity.
Number 9 and number 2 heavily contradict each other

>> No.17171105 [DELETED] 

>>17169178
>>7) ... And accept fan submissions for new outfits
>That's going to damage the chuuba-papa/mama relationship, which the fans enjoy very much.
You have a point for live2d, but for 3D models it's fine

>> No.17171195

>>17169787
Live-action limitations. Can't have crazy jedi-murdering cyborg lizards in a kids movie

>> No.17171236

>>17169178
>7) .. And accept fan submissions for new outfits
>That's going to damage the chuuba-papa/mama relationship, which the fans enjoy very much.
You have a point for live2d, if the papa/mama know what they're getting into beforehand then it should be fine for live2d.
For 3D models it's fine. No one will complain

>> No.17171277

>>17166106
Nigger skin cope

>> No.17171485

>>17166106
this is the best summary of the shihole that is this company i've ever seen

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>>17165832
Coco tried to warn everyone ("NO SLUTS IN HOLOLIVE") but Cover didn't listen. First Aloe, then Mori, Rushia/Lamy/Noel/Pekora getting forced into doing a colab with a male, an EN gen where half of its members have boyfriends, collabs with males and now this. it's too late now, abandon ship while you still can... it's .EVIL all over again, support the talents but NEVER the brand

>> No.17171858

>>17166241
The HoloEN Tier List (Definitive):
Ame>Gura>Ina>>>POWERGAP>>>Kiara>>>POWERGAP>>>POWERGAP>>>SHIT>>>POWERGAP>>>Mori

>> No.17171990

you guys are all morons

>> No.17172249

>>17165832
On JP side? Nothing. On EN side? Everything.

>> No.17172288

>>17165832
in chronological order -
1.) stars
2.) coco
3.) EN

In other words if they had kept things linearly focused on their core audience and not contort and distort themselves trying to be everything, they'd have less competing/clashing sub-interests at stake causing differences/instabilities within the company. For example if Stars just never existed the question of collabs with them wouldn't be painful, it just wouldn't need to be asked, etc.

>> No.17172385

>>17166106
>Chinese shareholders
wrong company anonchama

>> No.17173627

>>17165968
I hope one day another corporate vtuber group shows up and revives the "idol culture" that was long since abandoned, basically destroying hololive by being "hololive" of the past

>> No.17174434

>>17172288
I guess money from the idol otakus that make up like 90% of their revenue source wasn't enough, they want females too. I hope alienating their male supporters was the right move in the long term, and I'm talking the crazy ones that tend to fill their rooms with their oshi's merch, not some ironic fag that may drop a superchat once in a while.

>> No.17177186

>>17168565
Stupid westerner.

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