/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1846873
retards in /vt/ just hate her for no good reason and trying to break her, just wait till the antis come here and try to do thier fucking bullshit again
She does read the boards you know

>>1847096
>hate her for no good reason
People dislike her because of her shitty personality y'know

There's been a noticeable and sharp decline in Kiara threads these past few days. Considering this thread, is that schizo back?

>>1847096
I don't hate her, I dislike her. I also don't need a good reason. She doesn't need me to like her either.

>>1847606
>he realize even if he do nothing, kiara would still do annoying shit and all his effort to wake up kiara is just a waste

>>1847096
>for no good reason
There's plenty
>She does read the boards you know
lol sure. Maybe the threads will put her overgrown ego in check

>>1847096
I don't hate her but for me her voice is really loud and annoying

>>1846873
Good. Hope she learned how not to be an insufferable cunt

>>1847798
but thats mori

>>1846873
She cant say anything so she poop her pants real quick.

>>1847832
Mori is abrasive, but that's just her personality

Kiara is insufferable cunt because she wants to be the center of attention.

>>1847948
agree to disagree, mori gives me some serious cunt vibes

>>1847793
She'd probably lose a large portion of her haters if she just did some audio mixing reps to make the mic sound better. Her tone seems to be on the range to which human ears are pretty sensitive, and she's pretty much peaking the input whenever she speaks.

>>1847832
Mori is exceptionally easy to ignore.

>>1847775
Tell me the reasons, i keep asking and no one answers,
>>1847706
You sound like a child

I don't like streamers who swear and will stop watching them if they do it too much. I like to keep my ears clean.

Gotta balance the all the nyanners threads with more kiara threads huh

>>1849048
i don't understand how someone who browses 4chan can also be such a fucking pussy

>>1847096
>/vt/ hating Kiara
You do realize 95% of this board is schizo BPD retards and the only 5% here is a mix between friendly and anti posters?

ive never seen men so scared of a single women
you guys are worse than coco's chinks

>>1846873
Kusotori is meant to be the punching bag character. The sooner you embrace this the sooner it gets better.

>>1849036
>She's the only holo that numberfags on stream acting entitled
>She force fills dead space in collabs to the point of being a net negative never knowing when to shut the fuck up
>She is completely insensitive to others but has paper thin skin
>She yuribaits
>She's a JP gen 5 reject but can't get over it so she still goes out of her way trying to attract a JP audience
>She goes about attracting a said JP audience in the worst possible way via leeching in that horrendous talk show
>Loves attention so much she has an active roommate
>Costhot roommate

>>1849211
Take your meds.

what makes you guys any different from chinks?
you act just like bugmen
you ever thought about that?

>>1847096
I'M GONNA SHIT THOSE PANTS REAL GOOD

>>1849252
Our motivation isn't a lifetime of CCP propaganda

>>1849232
>"Okay tell me why you hate her"
>"Okay here is why"
>"OMG medsssss"
Daily conversations with KFP

>>1849297
fascism communism same difference
you are both drones peddling 1940s propaganda

>>1847832
Mori is just a dumb dork. Imagine Nene but not Japanese with manlike voice.

>>1849297
thats even worse, you understand that right?

>>1849211
Point 2 is valid critique.
None of them should account to actual hatred though, just dislike. Why is it so hard to just ignore her, if you don't like her content?

>>1849361
>Why is it so hard to just ignore her
Point 2

>>1849299
because a lot of what you said seems to be completely in your head, like how she's "completely insensitive" or "can't get over being a gen 5 reject"
also
>using "leeching" seriously
>roommate shit
lol
anyway i find it hard to understand hating any vtuber.

>>1849098
Explain all of the people who post here out of complete butthurt/screencapping and then broadcast it to the entire world on social media.

>>1849395
>because a lot of what you said seems to be completely in your head, like how she's "completely insensitive"
>Hey guys it's our first collab so I made this chart. NOOOOO DON'T PUT ME IN THE WORST SPOT
And more recently
>OMG GURA ARE YOU CRYING?

>>1846873
Despite how I may feel about her, I honestly do wish her all the best and hope that her mood improves. I am genuinely happy for you if you happen to like her loud personality, however it is just like nails on a chalkboard for people like me.

Regardless, I do have a soft spot for her and really hope that she is able to smooth out her personality and voice (not to mention her design). I want to like Kiara. Really. But Kiara as she currently is just makes that all but impossible for me. As annoying as I find her to be, it does bum me out when she is sad and it would kinda hurt if she were to graduate over all the shit she gets.

I just wish you could post honest critiques of her without KFP spazzing out. Or worst yet, her reading them and crying on stream about being 'attacked'.

>>1846873
She wasnt referring to that you stupid niggers

She just bought the cussing up so it would deviate to that instead of the fact that everyone tells her shes an anoying cunt with a shit personality on another forums and shes aware of this

Why are you all so fucking retarded i literally come here and the first thing i find is a childminded sperg misinterpreting ACTUAL FUCKING CONTEXT, is like you literally are retarded children

Holy shit im already dissapointed this is the new /MLP/ filled with retards and niggers

>>1849211
>Point 1
Pekora does it too
>Point 2
Matsuri does it too
>Point 3
Rushia does it too
>Point 4
Marine does it too
>Point 5
Polka does it too
>Point 6
Coco did it, it's no longer
>Point 7
Matsuri to a T
>Point 8
I'm behind on reps and don't know which roommates are into cosplay

She basically has the flaws of multiple Holomen all in one but that shouldn't make you hate her.

>>1849394
It's not like you have to watch those collabs either. They're a miniscule percentage of the content of whoever else you'd want to watch.
And on a large collab like the Among Us stream I felt like she did a really good job as a translator.
Just don't watch her. It's much easier for you to ignore her than it is for her to ignore the constant hatred she gets on shitholes like this.

>>1849460
What the fuck did I just read? Did this nigger just?

>>1849129
the fact retards like you equate schizos with shitposting shows just how newfag central this board is

>>1846873
>U-uuh yeah i receive hate comments and stuff

>Ye-yeah.. guys umm my c..cussing really affects some people huh...

>>1849467
Ok point 9
>She makes me choose between missing out on a collab my oshis in or suffering

Her fans are just as obnoxious as her. Literal schizo defense force seething in every corner imaginable.

If you think KFP antiposting is bad wait until you see Matsurisu antiposting on 5ch

>>1849537
Shes just annoying lets accept it, she should fucking grow up 2 extra neurons and be more self aware, shes too insecure to grow like niggertsuri

>>1849252
we don't
>spam youtube
>spam twitter tags
>personally harass her
>drag other vtubers into it
>attack cover as a whole
Trying to frame Kiara criticism as the same as Chink attacks on Coco is the most pathetic form of kfp cope yeat

>>1849361
ignore? shes fuckin collabing everywhere

>>1849537
someone needs to update this with
>/qa/
>/pol/
>rogue kfp
>teammates

>>1849331
>Antis hate Kiara because roommate politics not because she's an insufferable person
The state of KFcoPes

>>1849564
All it really takes is one tactless faggot to take everything said here as gospel and then use it as ammo towards whatever Holo is on the receiving end. I've actually noticed a few of the ENs getting these. Deny it all you want but there actually are people who bring 4chan outside 4chan within the VTuber fandom and ignoring it will only make it worse.

literally bugmen chinks

PLEASE FUCKING CHANGE THE NASAL VOICE

KIARA YOU FUCKING CUNT I CANT STAND IT ANYMORE

>>1849602
One tactless faggot would just get banned/ignored. Any number of tactless faggots would. This place is full of harmless rrats because no one actually cares that much. You just want to turn this place into your safespace.

>>1849530
I don't watch all the streams of my oshi either.
And her collab with Kiara was okay. Only the bigger ones Kiara is hosting on her own channel seem to be noisefests.

Again, you're free to dislike her content, but that's no grounds for actual hatred that you see here so often. Just fucking ignore her. There's a few holos I don't like to watch either, and I don't feel like I have to actively try to harm their image son this board for that.

>>1849657
I mean on Twitter. Some guy had a name like /hlg/ schizo and routinely attacked Kiara, Iofi, and Ame iirc using memes from Global.

>>1849669
I actually like her since shes retarded like most girls, but still shes just too stupid, everyone even her haters wants to see a better version of kiara

>>1849657
>unironically using safeplace on a board where women hide behind masks for entertainment
do you know how many levels of irony you are hitting right now /pol/lack?

>>1849691
Why feed the troll?

>>1849691
>unironically thinking vtuber = safespace
go back

>>1847096
>hate her for no good reason
Do KFPs really?

>>1849691
you probably thought this post was smart but it's actually really fucking retarded

>>1849728
KFPs high on copium

>chess meme channel

>>1849690
Ah, okay. I'm on the same boat then. A lot of people on these boards tend to paint their posts in such a negative manner that it comes out as antiposting instead. You did reply with reasons for "hate" though, which is why I stuck to it.

>unique poster count hasn't changed in the past 10 minutes
Your next line will involve the term "KFP"

>>1849739
>>1849709
Why Samefag /pol/lack?
you that bored this aint /r/the_donald
You really need to go back to ur shithole 4chan is not your home.

>>1849787
yeah kfp definitely aren't paranoid retards, i apologize

>>1849728
>>1849744
Hate. Not dislike.

A good reason for hate is, if she personally hurt you in some reason. Did she?

>>1849795
I can also open my browsers html editor
fuck off samefagging retard

>>1849537
/cgl/ being a major source of kiara hate is legit though, they've hated her roommate for literally a decade

>>1849765
It actually doesnt matter you nigger, youre being too idealistic and not basing your views on ACTUAL reality and matter of things

What you have is called copium and makes you percieve the world in poor manner

I would tell you to grow up but most people believe it or not are delusional pieces of garbage like you, so its common

>>1849808
jesus, KFP really is a parody of themselves

>>1849822
>copium
/pol/ack frog meme
go back

>>1849361
>Why is it so hard to just ignore her, if you don't like her content?
She had an entire week of collabs with Mori. I'd ignore her if I could

>>1849801
You literally dont understand human emotions yet want to lecture about them, dumbass

Reality is more complex than that you 1DIMENTIONAL retard

>>1849822
I have no idea what you're trying to imply anymore.

>>1849838
weak, try harder next time

>>1849836
you seem to know a lot about /pol/

>>1849836
Kill yourself i took that from one of my entertainers

??? I thought the /pol/ = kiara antis arc was over?
KFP can you give me a qrd?

>>1849861
Of course I'm a regular there. Sieg heil.

>>1849864
ladies first anon
>>1849861
newfag where did you come from?
clearly not 4chan

>>1849850
You just proved my point

>>1850101
You would have to explain what this "ACTUAL reality" of yours is in this context.

The bottom line is she makes money. She is nuts to pay any attention to haters.

>>1850259
my rrat is she is playing 4d chess

there are only 2 possible outcomes when it comes to banning collabs

outcome 1: her viewership and SC will increase, which means people like her solo streams more.
outcome 2: her viewership and SC will decrease, which means retards dont know shit about business and she will never listen to critic ever again.

both outcomes are a win because its very valueable information.

>>1850307
Its punishment for critics, some kfp said to tone it down a little in collabs, she saw this and thought ok just not going to collab then for a week.

>>1849211
>>She's the only holo that numberfags on stream acting entitled
Overly exagerated by people on this site, nonexistent criticism outside this place, what she does is common practice among the holos, why single her out on this? also how wondering if you are beint entertaining when that's your job "acting entitled"
>>She force fills dead space in collabs to the point of being a net negative never knowing when to shut the fuck up
This only became and issue in the most recent series of collabs, before her moving out of japan every collab was fine and she was even praised for them.
>>She is completely insensitive to others but has paper thin skin
I agree she has a thin skin, she should learn to deal with this since part of being a public figure is dealing with random shit people will throw at you, but how has she been insensitive and towards who? and please don't cite head the overly complicated mental gymnastics borne of this threads use simple and concrete examples form streams.
>>She yuribaits
Plenty of holos do, yet again why single her out on this?
>>She's a JP gen 5 reject but can't get over it so she still goes out of her way trying to attract a JP audience.
mentioned by her not being the case, it's also been proved the timeline doesn't make any sense , so utterly debunked.
>>She goes about attracting a said JP audience in the worst possible way via leeching in that horrendous talk show.
A talk show which sole purpose is to present JP to the western audience, streamed at a said audience prime time instead of JP times your conclusion falls flat.
>>Loves attention so much she has an active roommate
yet again another thing normal among holos why single her out on it, or explain why is it wrong only when she does it?
>>Costhot roommate
what does it have to do with anything is completely unrelated to her vtuber activities and doesn't affect them in any way? do you have an specific issue with "Costhots"

>>1850467
>Overly exagerated by people on this site
Says who? It's a very common criticism, Kiara's numberfaggotry and victim complex is practically her main defining trait at this point.

>mentioned by her not being the case
Kiara is a pathological liar, in case you haven't noticed. She fabricated an entire stalking narrative.

>A talk show which sole purpose is to present JP to the western audience
She spends 70% of the time talking about herself so if that's the goal it's an absolute failure

Listen Kiara is a shithead with a nasty personality. No shortage of people like her in the world.Thin skinned, arrogant and abrasive. If you can forgive her for these traits more power to you but a lot of people can't. I've had enough of people like Kiara in real life I can't understand why anyone would subject themselves to the exact same whiny "me me me" attitude that pervades western society at the moment ramped up to 11.

>>1846873
BLM whore, just fucking graduate

>>1850558
Do you want war maylay?

>>1850467
>She goes about attracting a said JP audience in the worst possible way via leeching in that horrendous talk show.
i never understood this rrat either. makes no sense.
most of her guests have less subs than her. not only that, they gain way more out of this by using kiara as a window to the west.
look at subaru for example. her subs exploded BECAUSE of the duck game and holotalk.
there are tons and tons of people that dont know shit about JP holos and the only reason they even found out about them in the first place is because of Kiara.
im not saying Kiara creating holotalk is the most selfless act ever, she gets stuff out of it too obviously. but saying this is leech just proves some of the autism on this board.

>>1850566
>tripfagging
Kiara is the only thing worse than her cancerous fanbase

No one cared until rabid fans put up daily hate threads about her in a schozoid attempt to advertise her stream. Maybe don't do that.

>>1850592
Are you mad?
do you want to dance around java for me?

>>1850597
kek
"fans"

>>1849564
Funnily enough KFPs do all of those things

She's only hated because her avatar is ugly as shit. Gura would probably get the same treatment if she were saddled with that ugly garbage.

>>1850631
Its not just the outfit, but it definitely helps

>>1850629
>t-trust me guys it's KFP themselves who want her to suffer, it's not the antis!!!!

>>1850652
KFPniggers get their posts deleted almost daily, who are you going to blame

>>1850688
KFP? why KFP? its antis you dumb fuck
this is literally (you) btw
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/search/tnum/1755069/deleted/deleted/page/1/

>damn look at this totally KFP employee, this is definitely NOT an anti, trust me

>>1850688
This. There's one guy who spams his "epic detective work" image daily.

oh there he is>>1850719

>>1850719
Kinda cringe posting yourself.

>>1850719
Thats a lot of KFPs replying though. Wew

>damn look at all those KFP!!!!!! those are NOT antis just believe me

>>1850707
Its been proven that KFPkeks make anti threads to pitybait for their blacked oshi. Like chuuba like fanbase

>>1850739
>KFP
>antis
Whats the difference?

>>1850731
>>1850741
KEK yea def KFP and not antis at all. now where is the proof though?

You're all fucking schizos man. Turn the computer off or lay off the phone for a few days.

>>1850741
discordnigger maylay

>>1850762
QFT. take some fresh air, kfps

Friendly reminder that you are dealing with a trilingual decade + established mastermind of the parasocial relationship for sale demographic.

To engage Kiara on any level in matters of subterfuge or provocation is to invite the humiliation of an immortal force of nature capable of reducing herself to ashes only to be kindled back to life by an ever growing field of fiery zealots who will Protect Her Smile.

Being unable to appreciate the delicate psychological fencing of her "I'M GOING TO SHIT THOSE PANTS REAL GOOD" arc is to be blind to the sublime deconstruction of competing virtual idol house marketing gimmicks and commentary on the crass undignified debasement of lesser personalities.

Truly Takanashi Kiara is the only Tuetonic mind strong enough to play the heel to such a diverse caste of misfits as assembled by her genmates. She will face you in the cage and you will be left crispy golden fried in the wake of her memetic majesty, BROTHER.

>guys did you know that antis dont hate kiara and shitpost? its actually KFP. its true because i say so

>>1850758
You do realize that if you dont reply it'll stop, right? Mods delete replies too.

>>1850758
my man, your ban is not up yet

>>1850809
nice try samefag

https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/_/search/image/gQUlZ2plfka672WvluMvzg/

>>1850530
What are the other places these very common criticisms are talked about?

hey, huruhurhuruhrhur

I am a Errejon Supporter. huehuheuhueuheuheuhuehuehuehuehueuheuhe

>>1850856
I... uh... I bet /jp/ !!!

>>1850856
What are the other places where you can actually criticize Holos? Every other discussion board seems like it's designed to be a complete hugbox

>>1850530
>Overly exagerated by people on this site
>Says who? It's a very common criticism, Kiara's numberfaggotry and victim complex is practically her main defining trait at this point.
Why didn't you address the point that what she does is common practice in hololive and you are singling her out for you convenience? hence why is an "overly exaggerated criticism", unless you can point the same criticism to every other holo that does the same seems like a moot point at this rate.
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>mentioned by her not being the case
>Kiara is a pathological liar, in case you haven't noticed. She fabricated an entire stalking narrative.
Anon is pathological liar, so explain why I should believe a hypothesized scenario with no conclusive evidence from a random anonymous individual on the internet with no stakes in the issue over the actual person that is involved in the company and could actually get in trouble for lying over corporate related information?
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>A talk show which sole purpose is to present JP to the western audience
>She spends 70% of the time talking about herself so if that's the goal it's an absolute failure
Well that's an opinion alright anyone can have one, but it's nice to see you were able to get out of the leech argument that's already past its expiration date

>Listen Kiara is a shithead with a nasty personality. No shortage of people like her in the world. Thin skinned, arrogant and abrasive. If you can forgive her for these traits more power to you but a lot of people can't. I've had enough of people like Kiara in real life I can't understand why anyone would subject themselves to the exact same whiny "me me me" attitude that pervades western society at the moment ramped up to 11.
I mean that is fine it that works for you, but trying to push your believes onto other people just makes you more of the same you are criticizing, no one is asking you to be happy over what other people enjoy just don't shit over other people parades. remember that everything is a trade off every second you spend being mad at something you dislike is one less second spend on something you would genuinely enjoy.
Just don't look at the sun for a reason to later complain your eyes got burnt.

>>1851081
>Entire post is nothing but "nuh uh"
You're a nigger and Kiara is a faggot

>>1851096
You forgot to attach a wojak to your post fren

>>1850610
Hey I don't mind whatever the fuck you are doing but can you take off you tripfaggotry? if you don't I take it you are actually a falseflagging faggot right?

To the human eye, orange is a very hot color, so it gives the sensation of heat. Orange increases oxygen supply to the brain, produces an invigorating effect, and stimulates mental activity. It is highly accepted among young people. As a citrus color, orange is associated with healthy food and stimulates appetite. Orange has very high visibility, so you can use it to catch attention.

>Pretty good thread start
>Discussion about improvement
>Antibait mostly ignored
>One person presents critique in a way that comes as hateful, probably unintentionally
>Debate ensues
>Thread devolves into full schizofaggotry

Every time.

>>1851200
Yes, it has only one problem...
it's not blue

>>1847096
>She does read the boards you know
Can't blame everyone else if she reads something she doesn't like.

>>1850783
based and retardpilled

>>1851217
And it will keep happen until most of the antis are range banned. Which is soon if this keeps up. So do your job and report.

KFPs getting less sane thread by thread.

>>1851081
kek you didnt have to destroy him so hard

>>1851319
>>1850790
>>1850758
>>1850739
>>1850719

what now?

>>1849173
Unironically this. Kiara's haters are our version of Zhangs

>>1849173
>>1851392

>worse than chinks
kek this is actually true if you think about it.
chinks at least get paid by their gov to hate her. kiara antis waste hours of their life time every day for free

>>1851200
Maybe become blue in your next life

>>1851418
>seethingly replies to bait posts
>does it for free
>thinks he is better
ogey

>>1847096
I don’t like her voice, it’s too loud and it sounds weird, especially considering hearing her actual voice which is fine. She’s loud AND she talks over people in collabs. It’s not a conversation when she asks someone a question and then talks over them as they’re responding. She also has a tendency to steer the conversation to be about her. Or she just literally goes “hey look at me! Look at me guys! Look at meeee.”

She can do whatever the hell she wants to do in her solo streams, it doesn’t make a difference because I’m never going to watch them. But these reasons are why she ruins collabs, and when it’s other people I want to watch that’s where I have an issue with her.

>>1852113
She does none of those and you're exaggerating. Also you can just fucking ignore the streams. It's not that difficult.

>>1852130
Absolute kfp delusion

>>1851602
it really doesn't compare

newfag here, can someone explain to me why is Kiara so hated here?

>>1852248
at this point i feel like this should be declared a pasta.

>>1849602
Ironically, so far the only ones directly attacking kiara and her streams have been her own members and it is hilarious every time.
KFP are everything wrong with Hololive

>>1852248
tl:dr is that hating her became a meme and was more acceptable on the much more EN-hostile /jp/'s general before /vt/ was a thing, and retards still think that it's okay.

Read the thread for other possible explanations.

>>1846873
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1616517933027.webm

>>1851310
>Which is soon if this keeps up

>>1846873
It wasn't cussing. She made an awkward joke and some autists are pretending like it's more than it is, which is making her sad.

>>1852278
Hi timelooping ban evader. Now post proof

>>1852248
An autistic schizophrenic who forgot to take his meds spends all his time on this board.
Kiara has lots of things she could improve, especially her fucking emotional instability, but she's a lovely birb nonetheless.

>>1852113
Actually good criticism instead of sperging out. I like Kiara and this is mostly true, and I wish she'd change those aspects.

>>1852302
Watch everytime she cries on stream from "mean donations". They are always KFP

>>1850719
OH NONONONO kfp btfo'd

Kiara is not a problem for me since I don't even watch EN anymore.

>>1850719
kfptards are just the gift that keeps on giving

>>1846873

She tried some improv and got completely abandoned/no-selled by her co stars on the Uno stream and people jumping on her at sign of weakness. I think they are doing it to have an effect on the world rather than actually having a point.

>>1852352
>>1852615
Why KFP?

Did she finally shit her pants?

If you don't like Kiara then don't watch her then.
Go watch Mikoti and be happy everyday.

I like Kiara. She seems like she really tries her best to be a proper hololive entertainer instead of a glorified gamer or someone with their other professions taking priority. Sure she's loud and annoying and a whiny white girl, but she has a good heart and a lot of her streams are pretty comfy, especially when she interacts with her fans. I actually enjoyed some of her streams more while she was shadow-banned

>>1850467
>Can you give me an example, nobody ever gives me a reason
>Gives 8 different reasons
>Proceed to layer post as if it was an argument.

This is why people hate you guys which only serves to make people hate her even more. This is an entertainment business based on personality and talent which means a very large chunk of a Vtuber's success is subjective and depends largely on opinions. If you are provided with these opinions why freakin' go schizo and try to debunk the whole thing ?
My opinion of her went from genuine interest over her hobby tastes, to respect for her trying so hard, to pity at seeing her constantly fail, to annoyance at her self absorbed near neurotic tendencies (starting with the Pekora collab) to utter dislike after getting to know her fanbase.
Now either accept people genuinely dislike your oshi for the reason they provide or just go to her discord if you want to circle jerk with the others. Every single Vtuber gets shit in their own thread, it's not people's fault Kiara's is populated with people like you.

>>1847096
fpbp

>>1853080
Ogey
Stop ban evading and accept it your defeat

>>1853080

why should anyone care if someone else dislikes their oshi

>>1852130
>>1852325
Which one is it?

>>1853149
That's the post's whole point anon. It's all opinions. Did you look at the post was replying to ?
Exactly.

>>1853149
no one should. but its slightly different when those schizos constantly raid threads of people who just wanna talk in peace about their oshi. over many months. the antis are the ones who keep trying to force their opinions on other people instead of accepting that not everyone shares their view.

>>1853256
First post is literally calling people retards for hating her for no reason which might very well be a false flag but will inevitably bring people pointing out why they hate her. Now if you visit any other holoEN thread, especially Gura and Calli, they get antis every time yet their bs doesn't work and the discussion never degenerate to the point Kiara's does. Why is that ?

>>1853329
basically this >>1850707
look at this. this is what Kiara threads have to deal with. daily. 60 fucking posts by a samefag schizo. yes, every holo has antis. and yes i also browse other fan threads. but never to this extend.

its not just KFP that bite the bait, the guy himself samefags and replies to his own posts acting like a triggered KFP (falseflag and time looping)
look through this archive and tell me this is normal and other holo get the same amount of bullshit.
and this is just 1 person mind you. imagine the days where 2 or more schizos spam their shit.
how the hell is that "easy to ignore?"

>>1851319
Add "samefag" to the list. It's their yet another new boogeyman.

>>1853465
>>1851345
How many times do you need to get BTFO until you realize this?

>>1853211
Its just where it says to accept people don't like someone for the reason they give or download and start using discord. Seems odd to me that those are the options given when the message is it doesn't matter?

>>1853256
If you troll here about her enough she'll bend over backwards for you. I think this is why she is trolled the most as her fans can suck one as far as she is concerned, its the haters where her attention goes. Now her fans have to give a fuck as the haters dictate her behavior.

This is the feedback loop:

1. Kiara trolled by antis and changes
2. Kiara fans argue with antis thinking this helps
3. antis get attention from all sources and troll harder

The key to being a Kiara fan may be to hate on her. I think this all compounds what you're saying.

>>1853422
I can say with 100% certainty that while there might be some samefags as in just every thread on 4chan, this is not to the extent you believe and this kind of reaction is most likely one of the many reason this keeps happening. Proof is I've been called a samefag multiple times in a Kiara thread just by having a neutral opinion while 2 of my buddies sent me on separate occasions cringe screenshots of people calling out the both of them as being samefags when trying to give completely valid criticism. You are creating your own antis, anon.

>>1853498
>Its just where it says to accept people don't like someone for the reason they give or download and start using discord. Seems odd to me that those are the options given when the message is it doesn't matter?
What is there to not understand ? Either accept people have differing opinions (accept it doesn't matter what people think of your oshi) or join a group of people that all have the same opinions you do (so you can stop being tilted at people voicing their opinions for some reason).

>>1853501
my man look at this thread. how many screenshots need to be posted? there is so much proof. the archive from the anon i linked alone shows a guy ( yes 1 guy) who spams 60 posts. almost daily. hes also in this thread right now. maybe even you, who knows. but hes always here.
of course not every single person who dislikes kiara isnt a samefag. im not saying that. im saying the people who raid kiara threads daily and always say the same bullshit are samefags. because they are.

I had a dream that my girlfriend, Kiara, and I were celebrating our year anniversary. We were in a nice restaurant somewhere in venice. The pungent smell of spaghetti and soothing sounds of opera tried to overload my senses. However they were no match for the charming energy radiating from my phoenix.

She reached over the small table to lay a delicate hand on mine and flashed me a warm smile. I felt my cheeks rose but managed to return the gesture in kind. We were interrupted by the waiter who brought out a bottle of the bubbly. It was time for the plan.

I poured some of the spirit into her glass and "dropped" something extra inside. A ring. I coyly remarked "oh boy how did that get in there." But was cut off as she already had it on her finger shouting "JA, JA!" We embraced and had a passionate kiss as the rest of the restaurant clapped and many tearing up. Kiara, my now fiance, whispered in my ear she wants to get home right away, so with a tip of my fedora, I lift my cute bird up into my arms and head out.

We could barely keep our hands off each other on the gondola trip, but we managed to behave well enough as to not bother onlookers. We were kissing like mad when we got back to the hotel, bumping into many walls as we navigated the corridors. By the time I got the room open she was already tearing my belt loose. We move onto the bed and she playfully pushes me backward on it. She starts taking her two hats off but then I remember something important.

I tell her "let's do this the right way, the way you like it". She asks if I'm sure and I nod in affirmation. She squeals in excitement before heading into the bathroom. Moments later she comes back out wearing a plug suit and holding a cat. She aims the cat's rear at the bed and as if it were a gun shoots a stream of his urine all over. Then she lays on the floor and tells me to hurry she needs my chunky wunkies. I squat over my beloved and dump a massive log right into her mouth. She cums instantly. Unfortunately that's when I woke up. I cant stop thinking about that dream though KFP. I even got a cat to piss in my bed daily to remember it by.

>>1853187
4chan has multiple people on it. Take your meds.

>>1853557

You're not even talking about the same thing any more. There actually is a difference between being impartial and having no interest in something and it seems like this is the difficulty you're having. Plus, the original post is not believing the reasons are genuine/valid, not a disbelief that there isn't only one opinion on something. I think the fact you're sliding the goal posts around is really where we should end this. Have a good day anon.

>>1853618
>my girlfriend, Kiara
That's called a nightmare.

>>1850758
you're actually deranged

>>1853583
I was called a samefag in this very thread for >>1853080
I have to admit it was a not-so-neutral post this time due to my frustration with dealing with people like this but it was in no way a trolling attempt or an anti raid post. It was a sincere opinion that KFPs are making things worse and that they should either not give a fuck and accept people's opinion or join a circle jerk that echo their own thoughts.
This is 4chan, a thread about an Oshi is not a safe space. You will get trolls, you will get antis and you will get other people either voicing their negative opinions or answering to posts like this >>1847096 be it a false flag or a sincere post.
That's just the nature of the website, anon.

>>1853703
You have a good day as well, anon.

>>1853800
...yeah but what has this to do with the original post i was replying to? >>1853329

this post basically implies " lol due stop crying, KFP dont have it worse. the other holos get equally as much shit "
which just isnt true.
actually, i can believe that gura or mori have MORE antis, because they are bigger, but they are less schizo. they dont get as much spam. not even close.

>lol ignore it
i already told you thats not possible when more than half of your thread is about doxxing and samefagging and general anti posts. your actual genuine posts about the stream get drown in a sea of anti posts. its impossible to ignore.
people should just report more instead of replying. but IGNORING is not possible.

>>1853080
>>1853080
What are you even talking about? Kiara isn't even my oshi,
i just see people trying to pass opinions and hypothesis as facts and comment on them.
Why do you get mad at people "debunking your opinions"
if you are deliberately publicizing said opinions while being controversial?
Do you expect me to reply with "BASED" and pat you in the back?
I mean if you just posted "i hate kiara" that's something i can ignore,
the same way you can when someone posts "i like kiara"
but when you go off about "evidence" and misconstrued scenarios you should expect push back.
And yeah i can genuinely accept people dislike kiara, that is absolutely fine,
i mean there are certain aspects of her i dislike and i hope she fixes them at some point
because what i look from this medium is entertainment.
Same reason i come to this site expecting some semblance of discussion.
So tell me what what do you expect when you pollute my chance at those discussions
by spouting falsified information and contrived theories just to make your subjective opinion more appealing?
The solution is simple you may keep disliking kiara just stop being dishonest and disingenuous
when trying to validate your reasons to dislike her
and let the people that like her discuss their enjoyment in peace since it shouldn't affect you in any way.
Otherwise it just comes off as you being offended by the fact that other people doesn't share your beliefs,
almost as if opinions contradicting your own are an affront to your perception of reality
and must be squashed down while expecting other people to praise you for it.
Have a good day.

>>1853940
Anon, as much as I really don't want to believe or say this, I think that you're kind of losing it.
A lot of people genuinely dislike Kiara and since you're on 4chan, many of these people will voice that opinion solely to annoy people like you. You can try to rely on higher authority to silence some of them, but it's just never going to stop especially if you and the others take the bait every single time. It's just text, let it slip or as I mentioned, avoid this place unless you want to make her reputation even worst. This will never stop.
After having failed every single time at having a conversation that wasn't downright praise or at the very least defending her, I'll just stop visiting her thread from now on just like many before me. The result will just be more antis and more reason to hate her community. Have a good day, anon.

>>1847096
Who the fuck cares if we hate her here or not it's not like she fucking reads any of this or influences public opinion
>inb4 she's reading this right now
Take your meds

>Kiara thread
You're just asking for the two Kiara antis to samefag the shit out of this thread.

>>1849564
>personally harass her
Tell that to the tranny who directly sent her some anti posts on twitter

>>1854127
These weren't my opinions at all, I merely reacted to someone going to such length to supplant someone's opinion with their own as if the anon was arguing when he was actually quite literally asked his opinion. Opinions and facts are very different things and he can chose to believe that she's a fucking alien from krypton if he decides to green text that as well. It doesn't matter. It's an opinion.
That is all. The only person that is offended "by people who doesn't share your beliefs" is you, anon. And this is the source of most of the problems encountered in these threads. You come to this site for a semblance of discussion on an anonymous board and you don't seem to be getting it when in fact there is a discussion, it's just not the kind of discussion you want to have. You call my attempt at trying to demonstrate why I genuinely dislike the fans base specifically because so many opinions going against Kiara are discarded and get called "pollution" using your word. My reason to dislike her are clearly stated in the very post you replied to and does not include any rrat, falsified information or contrived theories either. Then why accuse me of such things ? I mentioned I was leaving in my previous post but I thought it was important to demonstrate your misunderstanding of the website your on. There will be trolls, there will be antis, there will be people voicing negative opinions about the Vtubers. This is why I mentioned her Discord if you can't cope with that. Because the more you have people like me get annoyed to the point of leaving the thread, the fewer persons you have sandwiched between the actual antis and her most delusional fans.

>>1849596
What a surprise...

>>1846873
She shouldn’t have addressed the haters on stream in the first place. Should have complained to her friends like any normal person would have and then continued on like normal.

>>1850467
>But other holos do it too
Doesn’t make it ok.

>>1855143
ok but if it is so bad why is it that only Kiara gets this amount of criticism for it?

>>1855335
Because others only got 1 or 2. She has 8

>>1855335
Because she has other faults that people dislike her for.

Kiaras fanbase draws attention to her negative points by constantly crying about antis. The reason she is shit on so often is because of her fanbase. There are three threads about the same thing on /vt/ right now.

>>1853118
You're an actual schizophrenic. You don't watch any Hololive and yet you shit on anybody spouting retarded nonsense from your dirty lying mouth. Too bad you only have two brain cells that most of your sentences are easy to recognize and filtered. Get some professional help or better yet neck yourself you sorry excuse of an existence.

KFPs post overly sugarcoated criticism that Kiara completely misses the criticism and only sees the sugarcoat.

>>1847096
Kiara is annoying, her yuri baiting feels so forced and gross compared to Okakoro. Her design is bizarre, her facial rigging reinforces her already annoying voice. Worst of all, she interacts with my oshi too much.

>>1854668
>These weren't my opinions at all
So you just replied to a chain without paying attention to what was being said? excuse me for getting you confused for the one i initially replied to then.
If those weren't you opinions then those points weren't directed at you but that initial anon, and if you read them again you will notice that what i was doing was diferentiating said opinions from facts.
>Kiara is the only one that numberfags(trying to pass a lie as fact)
No she isnt the only one, what she does is common practice
>she force fills dead air
i agreed while also pointing that this just became an issue recently, i don't agree with the mount of flak she got for it but ok opinions.
>she yuribaits
???? hate her for it if you want but why single her out when she isn't even close to being the only one?
>the gen 5 reject(yet again trying to pass a rrat as fact)
Old stale rrat disproven on stream, why keep lying about it?
seems like dishonest attempt to bait newfags.
Etc.
So you see what i mean by polluting is that but is also bringing roommate topics and rumors that do not concern
to her vtuber activities you have seen them right? or are you also try to pass those as opinions?
What it seems to me is that anon thinks is inconceivable that anyone would dare to challenge his worldview instead of praising him for coming up for such wonderful reasons to hate what he hates.
As is been said opinions are just that and everyone is entitled to them
but that doesnt make them right and i should be able to express my own just as much as you have your right to express yours.

>>1855445
she has 8 what?

>>1847096
She would only catch half the shit if she would have been simply more modest and respectful. But because she is very self centered and even shows it openly, she is very easy dislikable. If she's willing to improve, she maybe still might have the chance to do so. "You're never get a second first impression." Good luck Kiara.

>>1847096
You know what I fucking hate?
>WAAAHH GUYS BE NICE TO KIARA SHE LURKS HERE ;_;
As if that line of thinking had ever affected the way people post. Deadbeats and Teamates insist their oshis are here, but that doesn't stop them from posting weird or down right insulting shit about their oshis constantly. Anyone coming here should expect unfiltered bullshit. If Kiara is too mentally fragile for that then she should fuck off back to a safe space, though spending time in a hug box will likely only amplify her flaws.

>>1856150
>facial rigging reinforces her already annoying voice
Pretty much this. I'm mostly just trying to ignore her presence in the big collabs, but now I finally know why I unconsciously detest her all this time.

>>1856348
>i should be able to express my own just as much as you have your right to express yours.
And you are absolutely correct. But that won't help in making your community less toxic nor enjoyable.

As I said before, the Kiara hatred here is nowhere near Matsuri hatred on 5ch

I like this chicken!

This wouldn't need to be a topic as often anymore now that the worst schizos have seemingly been slapped around often enough.

My only wish is for the dislikers to ignore her instead of repeating this same cycle ad nauseam. You're free to dislike her, but you can't expect fans to not defend their oshi if they see her under such a relentles attack constantly.

>>1856708
Difference being Kiara doesn't deserve all the hate, while Matsuri does.

>>1856898
While I agree with you, it’s hard to ignore when she collabs with all the other girls that I like.

>>1857058
ogey anti

>>1847096
Kiara's biggest problem is her own fan base. I don't care that she has a shitty personality because I no longer watch her. I hate that she wrecks collabs but again, I stopped watching when she's in them. The real shitbags are the ones that feel it is their duty to critique her and tell her she's doing everything wrong, and that is her own fanbase. Let her perform the way she sees fit. All this complaining and telling her what "she should do" is just going to lead to every girl acting like a carbon copy of each other and you'll just bitch about that. Just stop already. Eithier enjoy what you're watching or stop watching it. The choice is really simple.

>>1856898
>you can't expect fans to not defend their oshi if they see her under such a relentles attack constantly.
It's completely expected that they will defend her. That's the whole point for trolls and a major reason for people who dislike her and want to display their perspective while being exposed to the perspective of her fans. A big flag here is describing it as a constant relentless attack. You might just need to grow thicker skin and accept that a lot different people really dislike her and while there may be antis and samefags, many of those people just aren't on /vt all the time but still share the opinion. One thing is certain, calling people schizos and disregarding the content of their messages instead of being reasonable will only make it worst.

>>1857087
This.

>>1846873
Remember when Ollie dm’d all her senpais and Kiara was the only one to not respond?
Then she only addressed it to bring more attention to herself when her chat brought it up

>>1857186
Would you say the same, "grow thicker skin" if your oshi got attacked as hard in here? Would you be able to ignore it, or barring that, leave the place altogether?

>>1857087
>>1857233
Talking about collabs when they're happening is all good in my books. Plus it's kind of funny to see the shitstorm usually to dwindle to nothing when it ends up being a very normal, inoffensive collab.

>>1857613
The state of /vt/ would be incredible if those two collabed together.

>>1857613
based kiara

>>1853498
isn't this just how the internet works if you give attention to the trolls they will troll harder

>>1858033
>Would you say the same, "grow thicker skin" if your oshi got attacked as hard in here?
Gura gets shit on all the time, heck she's currently being shit on as we speak in her own thread, go take a look: >>1834583.

Do you notice a difference in pattern between this thread and Gura's ? I'll help you by saying both are being trolled with false rrats with no evidence and free hatred with no purpose.

>>1858524
nice, thats my thread

>>1858033
>Would you say the same, "grow thicker skin" if your oshi got attacked as hard in here? Would you be able to ignore it, or barring that, leave the place altogether?
you need to fucking relax KEK

She slowly became my favorite of the EN girls, yes she has shitty comments sometimes but overall I think her heart is in the right place.

>>1849211
holy shit you are actually mentally ill, seek help this is all in your head

I'M GONNA SHIT THOSE PANTS REAL GOOD

>>1858981
>She yuribaits
>Filling dead air in collabs to the point of being irritating.
>All in your head.

Ok.

>>1849129
I can't believe I'm explaining this but the schizo shit is just a meme; now go back.

>>1846873
She really needs to stop lying during streams. She'll say something completely untrue then this scenario happens on here all the time.

Anon A: She is full of shit, I have proof.

Anon B: No way A, you schizo, you're a faggot and full of shit.

Anon A: Fuck it, here's the proof.

Anon B: WTF, don't post dox, this board is shit, the meidos are shit, blah blah blah.

The Anon Bs & her personality have ruined any chance of redemption.

>>1846873
Are we really doing this again

>>1859198
doing what again?

>>1859142
I agree 100 % with this. You can also add the fact that Anon B will go into a Rage mode and make anyone who isn't either a troll, an anti or themselves evaporate from the thread leaving nothing but a toxic sludge behind making successive discussions exponentially worse.

>>1854199
>it's not like she fucking reads any of this or influences public opinion
anonchama...

>>1859142
>Reference roommate.
>Get told not to reference roommate.
>Continue to do so.
>Get told there are diehard petty fucks that come from roommate world who will try to ruin anyone if they feel they've been slighted.
>Ignore this fact because it doesn't fit your narrative.
Listen, we all know she's got some growing and distancing to do, but having people rail on you 24/7 is not very fun. She's probably the lowest viewed out of the EN group (maybe Ina) and she works hard to make everyone feel welcome in her chat so she can keep people. Scream "NUMBERFAGS" all you want, but this is a fucking job for these women. Just like the other 4, she opens herself up to thousands every day because she knows people will enjoy listening to her tell stories. All of them do this in their own way, and just because you don't enjoy that way doesn't mean you have to follow the shitposting formula that's sprung up. >"BUT HER FANS ARE SHIT"
Sure, there's plent of simpage all around and they try to cushion the criticism, but her fans reactions and comments are not a reason to take it out on her and ramp your hate harder, unless you really are just in it for the shitposting
>(you)s

>>1858524
I remember the first thing Gura said during the Yellow turban rebellion was ignore the haters, just fuck em. On the flip-side you got Kiara literally giving antis attention. This is one massive difference that reflects pretty accurately their fanbase.

>>1859551
>the Yellow turban rebellion
heh

>>1859389
She has chose to integrate her roommate plenty of times. She posts a lot of stuff on her social media platforms to fuel the problem. She chose to not private or delete any of it. So calling people liars and then thinking the rules are going to stop them from posting the truth is just ignorant.

>>1859389
You're just proving his point, anon. Please chill. The fact roommates doxx is restricted doesn't mean people wont use them to call her out when they are being lied to. You're literally being Anon B from his post.

>>1849211
>>She's the only holo that numberfags on stream acting entitled
not really
>>She force fills dead space in collabs to the point of being a net negative never knowing when to shut the fuck up
considering the other 4 are silent 90% of the time, I am happy she tries to get the convo going, sometimes too much
>>She is completely insensitive to others but has paper thin skin
lol
>>She yuribaits
everyone does
>>She's a JP gen 5 reject but can't get over it so she still goes out of her way trying to attract a JP audience
take your
>>She goes about attracting a said JP audience in the worst possible way via leeching in that horrendous talk show
meds
>>Loves attention so much she has an active roommate
that she is looking to move out?
>>Costhot roommate
thats a bonus

Raise your hand if you are being forced to post in this thread

>>1849691
>thinks he's talking to someone from pol
>doesn't realize a /pol/fag would just call him a niggerchinkfag and ask for flag
>doesn't realize he outed himself as an embryo

Lurking helps you from retardation, you plebbitard.

>>1859736
Looking to discuss the reasons I don't think anyone should be shit on as hard as Kiara is I don't think qualifies as crying for the mods. Is it bad to assume all rrats and extreme dislike posts are just (you) seekers and just ignore them? Is it better to have zero discussion and let the shitposts happen unabated? Maybe, but I like to talk about things I enjoy. I guess there's a little bit of autism that drives me to try and have a convo with someone who at least looks like they tried to put some effort into their post, and I know I probably won't convince anyone of anything, but why come to this place if you're not looking to discuss and only want to picture spam your Oshi?

>>1849036
>sound like a child
He's not the one complaining on a Ugandan mudhut building forum about random people not liking his favourite virtual eceleb

>>1859799
>"I am happy she tries to get the convo going, sometimes too much"

She does the "sometimes too much", all the time, overdoing it. Without her, conversations would go on, just not the rapid machine gun type that she adds weird. Example when Gura was getting emotional. "ARE YOU CRYING?" Maybe Kiara thought this was funny but at that time, you want to stay silent and let Gura finish. Kiara really lacks this BUT it's something she can work on. Some Anon said that Kiara acts more like she's on stage all the time instead of hanging out with friends.

>>1859950
>only want to picture spam your Oshi.
Anon, first of all believe it or not 4chan is an image board. So yes indeed many people come here to "picture spam" their favorite Oshi's art. How can you depict that as a negative is beyond me.
Secondly, there is discussion. The problem is that it's not a discussion you want to have. That's a really irritating problem with 4chan in that people come here because it's popular but don't seem to understand to point of an anonymous board. It exists so people can say whatever the fuck they want about whoever they want. This goes for you, me, the haters, the lovers, your mom, everyone. You have to come to term that people will shitpost and people will troll and people will have differing opinions about the stuff your saying. People will banter. This is the whole point. Now if the very nature of this place irks you this much there is a very simple solution for you. Else chill, participate or don't. But don't give me that bs.

>>1860130
>The problem is that it's not a discussion you want to have.
There are rules, ya know. If you're going to break them and mention things that shouldn't be talked about to try and convince me that you're right, I will use those same things in a rebuttle. It's en vogue to shitpost and shit on Kiara right now, so you have to take that in as a factor as well. I will gladly discuss why she has issues with collabs, what she should work on, etc., but the problem is that most of the people posting the disparaging comments are not doing so 'in good faith'. I believe there are some who are, but a majority are part of the memers. Maybe I should just stick to the /hlgg/ for now.

>>1860253
Again you're literally proving >>1859142 point. You can do whatever you want, anon. But this is one of the many reasons why the fanbase gets shit on and why it keeps getting worst.

>>1850582
I've been following Subaru for a while and I can tell you that holotalk definitively did NOT contribute to a 'an explosion' in her sub count.

>>1860468
But it's not the fanbase that's getting the flac because of their inane posts, it's Kiara. You can say that it all stays here, but we both know that would be a disingenuous statement. We both know people in an area like this have way too much autism and emotion to let out that it'll stay just between (us). Honestly if someone starts getting overly emotionally invested in arguing on here, they should probably just take a break for a minute.

>>1860659
>But it's not the fanbase that's getting the flac because of their inane posts, it's Kiara.
This is the message I've been repeating this whole thread. It brings so much negative attention to her that she's going to get more insecure and defensive which will poke more holes in her narrative which will bring more rrats with ever more emotional replies from her fans.
On the Internet the rule never fucking changed: just fucking get over it. This is like the people complaining about being bullied on twitter after posting a bikini picture while weighting 600 pounds and then cry about it because the rules state you can't make fun of other members. Yet she still continues to post and visit twitter every day and doesn't understand in her thick skull that she's the very cause of her problems.

>>1860020
>Maybe Kiara thought this was funny
But she wasn't trying to be funny? if anything she was trying to defuse and be reassuring thankfully some anon transcribed the convo https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/1473463/#q1494647 and you can rewatch the moment in question if you don't trust it https://youtu.be/ouOSumKRFto?t=4762
And this is the core of my issues with people shitting on kiara, there may be plenty of reasons to dislike her and anyone has the right to, that's not my business but why be dishonest and try to paint kiara in the worst light possible over some innocuous shit? and spend days on end timelooping over the same shit over and over again?

>>1860578
She gained almost 20k after the holotalk. That's quite significant.

>>1860852
Anon... She got the same increment the week before.

>>1859950
Take your meds, schizo.

>>1860891
And she's at 800k now thanks to the holotalk.

>>1859142
>>1859269
>>1860468
are you guys trying to justify doxfagotry?

>>1860948
Are you like an actual retard?

>>1860761
I can agree to your point on needing to get a thicker skin. I just hope she's talking to her Gen mates about it or finding help in some other way to get over it. Feedback loops are usually bad.
>>1860894
Same.

>>1847096
>just wait till the antis come here
but they're all chinks anon
easy to spot
easy to deal with

>>1849842
t.angery teenager

>>1857175
>is just going to lead to every girl acting like a carbon copy of each other
So what Kiara already does?

>>1860992
Absolutely not and most if not all of the time these posts are deleted and the user banned. It doesn't change reality, however. Lying to people will make them hate you regardless if the method that revealed your lies are disgusting and wrong. There is a way to hate both the doxxer and the vtuber in those situations, anon. You don't just close your eyes to a proof because the way it was provided was against the rule.

>>1860992
and what did she lie about that is enough to hate her over it?

>>1860948
Bullshit. There was no spike after Holotalk. But whatever floats your boat making stuff up.

>>1861515
Come on man, that's just weak bait now.

>>1861454
meant to
>>1861121

>>1861515
It doesn't need a spike. It grew organically but faster thanks to the holotalk.

>>1861596
Do your reps if you want to dig up some rrats. I'm against doxxing as much as any decent human being and no amount of hatred for the chicken will have me participate in it.

no i mean this anon pointed to something she said on stream which stream was it or what did she say? >>1859142

>>1861653
soooo...
its basically
>just trust me bro
nice

>>1861653
But that's the problem. You dredge up things not related to Kiara, get told to fuck off because it isn't related to her or Hololive, and then whine when you're told to fuck off. Even if you get a genuine response that also delves into verboten topics, you discredit them because they aren't your narrative.

>>1861703
No, it's get your roommate information elsewhere. I couldn't care less about you believing it or not.

>>1861785
I know who her roommate is
and I have no fucking clue what fucking rrat are you trying to manufacture

>>1861771
What in all nine hells are you going on about ? I'm not dredging shit, that's the whole point. All I'm saying is that if she lies to people and people are able to demonstrate that she lied through doxxing, that doesn't make the lie somehow invalid. She will be hated for it.
Does that excuse the doxxing ? Of course not. Does that excuse her lying to her fans ? Absolutely not. I am aware of the rrat but refuse to take part in it. That doesn't mean I don't have valid reason to dislike her as a person.

>>1861803
Good. It's unironically much better that way.

>>1862001
But you're factoring one thing in a web of things based on the forbidden fruit. That's like finding one rotten apple in a sack of them and tossing the whole sack away.

hey guys, its the SEA kiara anti the KFP complains about here. i am really enjoying the fact this thread is full of discussion, but unfortunately, i didn't fucking read any of it lol! keep it going though!

>>1862094
Not at all, I dislike her fans because of this >>1853080
and this >>1859142. I don't watch her at all anymore and I'm fine with that. But she's still part of a community I enjoy and her fans are making it so much worse for her.

>>1862058
ok, I will ignore your schizo ramblings

>>1862292
Good, it's not like you were reading any of it anyway, anon.

>>1862270
Like I said, I get what you mean by that, but to dredge up tgose forbidden fruits that you speak of in defense of "I hate her" is pretty shallow on your part. I wouldn't use what you've read against her unless you understand this next sentence.
The gulls are full of salt, always squawking in search of the next meal.
If not, either dedicate yourself to getting to learn some more boards on this site, and learning the culture of other places like this site before you have your 'insite' influence your perception of Kiara.
Fans can always be overbearing, but that should not lead you to false judgment. I hope one day you can enjoy her collabs with your Oshi anon, whoever that may be.

>>1862365
even better

>>1849098
based and swear-pilled

>>1862001
>Absolutely not. I am aware of the rrat but refuse to take part in it.
But that's exactly what you did?
This faggot >>1859142 brought up that she lied on stream and tried to justify doxing because "it's just to prove she lied" and you joined in agreement that yeah is ok to doxx if it's to prove that she lied.
So yeah i think you are being a gigantic faggot, explain again why are in this thread while you have expressed total disinterest in kiara and complete hatred for her fanbase.
Why are you in a thread whose sole purpose is for people you hate to discuss a topic you allegedly don't care about?

>>1862387
You seem to be a very special kind of person, anon. I'm not defending my stance at all. I don't like her streams and made my points hundreds of posts ago, I'm just 5 minutes away from finishing my shift and enjoyed my dive into confirming exactly why her fanbase is completely insufferable. This is the only time you'll see me here unless I get bored again in a few weeks. I can now absolutely confirm what I originally thought and had a good laugh in the process. You be you, anon. Enjoy your Oshi and I truly hope she can improve herself so that people stop having reasons to hate her. Have a good one, friend.

>>1849098
Kiara's voice is worse than a rekt thread

>>1862523
>you joined in agreement that yeah is ok to doxx if it's to prove that she lied.

stopped there. You need to scroll up a bit and read again instead of putting words in people's mouth anon. This is not helping your case at all. And at the very least please stop talking out of your ass. I love this community and it doesn't need the shit stain that her fanbase is becoming. Aaannd my shift's done, have a good one.

What Kiara have done wrong again? Can someone briefly explain? Not about her nasty voice or shit like this.

>>1862618
kek nice backtracking, try to change your writing style once you come back and don't let the kfp boggeyman bother you in your sleep.

>>1860992
Are your reasoning skills limited to that of putting cut blocks into the properly shaped holes?

>>1862685
...And the wheel starts turning for another circle yet again.

>>1862811
Sry just found out the thread. Not a kiara's fan btw.
Definitely.

>>1862949
You can be whatever you want here, fan or not. Lurking just for a day around here gives you all the info you need on this particular thing since it gets repeated ad nauseam with nothing new really coming in.

>>1847096
>trying to break her
Hot.

>>1862685
ummmm
nothing really
people are still recovering from 2016 election and still spout "orange man bad"

>>1846873
Can you stop making threads about yourself, whore? Go back crying on stream or some shit.

>>1862786
no need when the supposed holes are gaping chasms
>>1859142
>posts a thinly veiled rrat
>Is not a rrat i swear i have doxx to prove it.
>btw kfp is shit for not tolerating doxfagotry
>>1859269
>I agree 100 % with this.
>>1860468
>you're literally proving doxfag "A" point.
just call it what it is and be done with it.

>>1863049
As far as i can see, kiara have some kind of mental illness. She cant control herself properly in some situation and easely irritable. So, blaming can harm her mental health. I can tell this becouse i have something like kiara have with her mental health. So, i just dont want her emotional breakdown. But it is just imho.

update holy fuck i didnt realize it would have this much replies holy fuck u do realize shes german right holy fuck you all really hate her

>>1863366
should have won the war

>>1862523
Is it really a dox when it's stuff she's actively still posting on social media? Seems like you faggots are more upset about being proved wrong. OMG someone took a screen shot from twitter or YT on her public account, oh the humanity. I could slightly agree if it was a private account, but no, anyone can see it.

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1374825959375912965
always happy to be there Kiara!

hi anon the one who did this thread the man who replied with the monkas i didnt realize how much of you in /vt/ hated kiara fuck i made a mistake here

>>1863398
Anon come on while it is a techinically incorrect usage of the word anyone that has lurked for more than a day understands what is being talked about when using the word "doxx" in the context of vtubers. but since the information is out there why be so desperate to spread it around? just let people find in on their own and form their own opinions, no one is asking you or anyone else to post it here.
wouldn't you agree?

>>1863665
I agree in the fact to not post personal information such as where they live, phone numbers, etc...

On the other hand, when someone is going on the internet, telling lies, and is using them to gain sympathy and MONEY through superchats and memberships, is that not fraud at that point, and is it best that people know they are being frauded?

>>1846873
I dont believe people are bullying my wife

Newfag here, I just wanted to ask a few questions out of genuine curiosity:
Why do you talk about someone you dislike so much?
Shouldn't you want to talk/hear about someone you disdain as little as possible?
Why visit threads about that person if you don't like them?
Why would you interact with that person's fanbase if you hate them as well?

>>1863916
what's the lie then? I mean the reason why viewers donate and pay for memberships to the streamer is because they stream right and their audience find entertainment in that right? how do you lie about that? is she not streaming? there is a body double doing her job? i have no idea what you are trying to say.

>>1864114
There's a few dedicated shitposters who are either in it for the (you)s, have a special kind of hatred, or come from a very not vtuber area of the internet that is full of women who all have very nasty pettiness issues. Reading down the thread, you can tell who they are because they focus on one single point every time and ignore what someone says to say 'yeah well but Kiara did THIS' or 'Well Kiara's fans are like THIS'.

>>1864254
>what's the lie then?
See, this is the doxx bait that always gets the shit everyone complains about posted.

I'll just pose a hypothetical situation for you.

If Ina said she always wanted purple hair to look like a tako, and she never had the money to do it, and you donate a $100 and say, hey get that dye job on me, you'd feel good.

Then let's say, 10 minutes later, someone in a thread says, hey she had purple hair before, she is lying.

You then call them a liar and a faggot because that's all you can do.

They then post a pic of her roommate from 2 months ago clearly sporting purple hair. Would you not feel pissed and frauded?

>>1864650
Wait, this is the fucking rrat? Are you fucking kidding me? I thought it was some dumb bullshit drama brought up about past engagments but this shit is all it is?
I have no sympathy for simps. Fuck you for making me think it was some petty old shit drama. If people want to waste their money to give Kiara's roommate purple hair, so be it.
You seem so salty about this incident that I have immediately come to the conclusion it was you.

>>1864114
You're better off reading this entire thread starting from the top.

>>1864650
what a bitch should graduate asap.
there is that the kind of reply you wanted?
I have no idea what your deal is but anyone that watches kiara knows her roommate actvities in detail and to this day none of them give a shit about it beside the usual suspects trying to push their rrats

>>1864824
>I have no sympathy for simps.
heh

Why is bullying Kiara so fun bros?

>>1864650
>anon feels like he got swindled out of 100 bucks and still holds the chicken in contempt to this day.
That just seems petty anon you are making it seem like she is a con man or shit over a voluntary donation.

What gets me is ... I don't know if it's always my fellow KFP replying, but ... while I appreciate you writing a novel length rebuttal in defense of some of the unwarranted hate against Kiara, at the end of the day there's no point and it's a waste of effort.
You're not going to change someone's mind over the internet. You can argue back and forth until you're blue in the face, but you're just giving them (You)s. They've already made up their mind about Kiara - they don't want to see the good in her. Not everyone has to like her, and not everyone will. But the schizos and shitposters are especially pointless to reason with. You can present them with facts and logic and they'll ignore your every word with a dismissive "do [fan name] really?"
Let them revel in their faggotry. Let them shitpost or sperg out over made up rrats, it doesn't change your feelings about her.
Join in the "fun", if you want. But if you want to have an actual conversation about Kiara without some cunt interjecting with "she's loud and self-centred, durrr", you'd have better luck staying out of these shitty split threads and posting in /hlgg/.

>>1846873
Holy shit you faggots really take all this Vtubers stuff seriously lmao

>>1865708
>facts and logic
Most the facts and logic submitted are highly objective.

>>1863112
What now orange girl bad?

>>1865708
ngmi

>>1847096
>She does read the boards you know
Then she should stop reading what anons on 4chan say about you rarely any good.
She's got her own fanbase to support her she doesn't need to browse this board it'll only drive her roommate to putting her head in the oven.

>>1856530
She has literally said she's looking for a safe space where she can talk without being criticized

>>1866333
>She has literally said she's looking for a safe space where she can talk without being criticized

Does she really believe she's a leftist dictator? They are about the only people who can get away with zero criticism. If she needs an environment like that she needs a therapist. Maybe she can find one willing to work for free, but she can't possibly expect that on the internet.

>>1866684
She's a woman who wants someone or something to accept her as she is

>>1866333
>>1866684
Do your reps. Kiara's a masochist that feeds off criticism and her own self-destruction whenever she lurks here.

>>1846873
Bros.... I watched a youtube video with loads of clips saying shes sad and now I feel sad.....bros you need to stop.....