/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>18625938
how am i supposed to shitpost with this information? bring rrats

>>18626574
Use your brain to make a new rrat

Liver is such a fucking stupid term

>>18625938
Hardly any details. All of this info is what we already knew.

>>18625938
>Livers
And into the trash it goes. I refuse to engage with anything that uses that term.

>>18626740
Go back then

>>18625938
>New waves cancelled
>Official channels deactivated
RIP

>teased ID 7th wave cancelled
Is it before or after audition? I can't imagine how bad it is to pass an audition only to be fired soon after.

I wonder how new debuts in the main branch will be handled now. Will they still debut by nationality, or will they be mixed from now on, or was EdenGumi the last wave

>>18625938
>ID and KR events will occur in other venue in lieu of dedicated ID/KR channels
What does it mean? And where exactly this venue? Niji main channel?

>>18627063
There's no more new debut in main branch. They'll use the chuubas from their academia thingy

>>18626900
After

>>18626574
EN had the chance to join Nijisanji as well, but blew it by being wild sluts as soon as men were introduced. Now they will be the black sheep of the company no one will associate with. Expect more "GFE" ASMR in the near future.

>>18627107
kek this pretty much sealed the fate for future ID waves

>>18627107
Is this something that’s been confirmed or are you just speculating?

>>18626694
Was about to post this. 'liver' is just so fucking awful in text form.

>>18627158
The girls are fine. It's the males that acting overly whorish by degrading themselves for them chink money

>>18627158
>but blew it by being wild sluts
>as soon as men were introduced.
Tell me you don't watch nijisanji without saying you don't wantch nijisanji.

>>18626694
Absolutely. I can't help but read it as the body organ.
And it doesn't even make sense. Vtubers are less "live" than regular streamers

>>18627280
The problem, most of JP chuba use that term

>>18627278
It was back during they first i introduced this academia. It said, they'll provide training for talents and will move them to main branch when they gain enough experience. Just go look it up on niji's website on the academia page

>>18627109
That's sad...hope they are alright.

>>18627409
So they never said specifically they won’t debut anymore new people in the main branch

>>18627302
I'd say not to shitpost with my oshi, but there are only facts here.

>>18627075
Most likely the livers' channel.

No more company sponsered branch collabs, and no new branch specific waves. This is just them trying to learn from the IN branch disaster. They're killing them off without firing the talent.

>>18626900
the audition was still ongoing. it got cancelled when they announce the merge

>>18627692
why do they have job listings for Japanese based Korean and Indonesian speakers then? that seems like a waste, especially when Korean and especially Indonesian staff are cheaper

>>18627600
That's better then. Fucking hate how nijimain stole all the kino stuff

Were Yuki Ono and Roberu already friends? I'd think he could have picked a more popular male vtuber from niji for his radio show

>>18627834
Anon.. iofi and roberu was literally the ones that introduced him to vtubing and inspire him

>>18625938
So I was right, they're being sentenced to a slow death.
It's practically impossible for them to attract new fans, especially if they still want to keep the way they do streams (still using Indonesian language and jokes, etc).

From this point on, they will be having no sustainable growth, they can only wait for their existing fans to leave them one by one until they can't do it anymore and graduate.
Poor guys and gals, they are such a fun and nice bunch.

Fuck Riku Tazumi.

>>18625938
>7th wave axed
So much for trying to selling this as a positive step.

>>18629019
Eh, enough was enough.

>>18627789
For control
which they lacked with KR management

>>18629019
Hada said the KR wave auditions were suspended until after the transition rather than outright cancelled

>>18628601
Explain how this prevents them from growing in any way.

>>18628601
Their death is their own fault
Mika and Hada keep doing good for newcomers because they speak english
Hana had that but "muuh ID pride"

the JP side has alot of chuubas that haven't grown for a long time which is also their fault whatever the reason is

>>18627355
Also it would fit Hololive more.

>>18629129
>have the ID/KR branch identifiers on their names, so people who are looking for those languages can find them easily
>join main branch and lose said identifiers
>now they're part of the main branch's mass of vtubers, so a new viewer would assume they all speak mainly japanese and pass them over as "one more JP talent"
It's why this is seen as Niji pulling out if the ID market, as they lose discoverability from there. We're they afraid they'd be completely eclipsed by HoloID3 I wonder?

>>18628601
You people act as if they had some guaranteed public for being specifically branded as ID but only the ones speaking english and being called leeches are showing any growth, being inserted on the main branch is actually a opportunity for them to get their shit together and raise their appeal if they want to grow

>>18629575
>We're they afraid they'd be completely eclipsed by HoloID3 I wonder
Ah so you're a SEAdog concerntrolling. That explains a lot.

>>18629879
>you're a SEAdog
This is the highest level of insult you could've called me. Fortunately, I'm not a SEAmonkey, however (you) are still coping

>>18630133
You're right, you're not a SEAmonkey, you're a SEAnigger. You'd have to be one to not understand how the ID label is an objective debuff.

>>18630187
Nice cope, calling every anon you disagree with a SEAnigger is a sign of schizophrenia, something the shitholes of SEA are known for. Are you sure you're not projecting?
Also, losing the ID label can be taken as them pulling out of the ID market, therefore losing easier access to the ID audience. Whether pandering to them is worth it or not is debatable, however I believe that merging them into nijimain was a mistake. ID should've combined with EN

>>18631076
>No u
Sad, seething SEAnigger.

>>18631172
>>No u
>Sad, seething SEAnigger.

>>18629331
HoloID's talents all speak at least 50/50 in their streams and it really does offset the "ID" label nerf a little

>>18629125

>>18631172
>>18631230
Now kiss

>>18625938
>Cancelled 7th gen and no more dedicated ID/ KR channel.
Wow, what a blow. All this in the face of HoloID3 coming. Also, surprised they're still keeping the ID/KR channels content since they've wiped all of the graduated livers I've seen so far, except for a few covers. Just doesn't seem like Nijisanji was in the business of preservation and would rather memory hole everything if it could.

>turns out quality is better than quantity
I'm shocked. If only someone warned them that shitting up an already oversaturated industry is a bad idea

>>18629575
People discover new vtubers through algorithm and clips not looking up nationalities. It's not like they're going to be mandated to title their videos in JP. I don't see how dropping ID identifiers is pulling out of the ID market. They make livestreams not physical goods.

>>18632957
It's up to the member if they wipe the channel or not. There's no reason they wouldn't wipe the IN channels unless the members wanted the vids to stay up.

>>18632957
It’s up to the livers whether they keep up videos or not. Izumo Kasumi has all her content will up on her channel. (Some are unlisted and put into playlists)

Imagine, passing up the audition and got shafted immediately.

>>18632957
>since they've wiped all of the graduated livers I've seen so far,
within KR, there were a few that still had content... but it looks like Wiffy and Yuya's channels were slimmed down even more and Ruri's channel was wiped completely clean. all three have since reincarnated so...
one of the graduated former-E&C members channel is complete https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZgRRTDMYwHpQ7sCl0aCp2Q/videos

>>18629575
Most Indonesian viewers won't even watch either Holo or Niji ID anymore in 2022, the elephant in the room aren't even corpo-chuubas.

Indogs are old news. New opportunity zone is Thailand.

>>18626574
there's only one rrat that matters and she isn't associated with nijisanji anyway.

>>18625938
I'm really thankful to Cover for not abandoning their ID talents.

>>18625938
I feel like they should have given them the choice of going to NijiEN.

>>18636642
Wait, who did Ruri reincarnate as?

>>18627063
There won't be anymore KR or ID additions. Only ENs and JPs and whatever the Chinese pseudo-branch does. The ID/KR basically get to live out their life on a quite farm upstate instead of being put down, that was the best outcome for them.

>>18627075
KR/ID won't get any more official events and stuff, they'll basically have to be done by the talents unofficially.

>>18627789
Because they are gonna sack the ID/KR management and want someone who can speak ID/KR to the talents but is under the corporate HQ.

>>18628601
Their only chance is to speak English or JP and ingratiate themselves to existing groups within the company like Mika is doing. They can survive as individual streamers, albeit with difficulty, but those markets are now effectively dead.

>>18638606
Learn to JP

>>18629575
Most likely they weren't making enough money to justify marketing, staff ect, new avatars ect.

>>18638071
Diluting NijiEN with a bunch of failures would be a mistake.

>>18638071
It would taint the EN brand to have some random ESLs dumped on their doorstep.

>>18638785
isn't that basically NijiEn already?

>>18639326
Only 3 of them are ESL. Most are 2nd or 3rd gen immigrants so they might have a bit of an accent at most.

>>18638283
it'd be more appropriate to she returned in full to her old channel but 무뉴뉴. she interacted with 요나 a lot after the later debuted but they've largely gone their own ways again

>>18625938
>The language the Livers use on-stream is not relevant, and has always been the Liver's choice
Ban is officially EN

>>18627302
good, men are bigger sluts than women irl so it makes sense that male chuubas reflect that. Makes them more realistic.

>>18638523
Didn't the report say that members of the staff would be brought into the main branch staff? KR's staff is most likely gone completely since a number of them can speak japanese, but ID's good relationship with their staff on top them needing to find people that speak the language leads me to believe some of the managers will be kept.

>>18627355
Vtubers started as typical edited-video/ prerecordings. Nijisanji popularized the transition to livestreaming, effectively turning into the Twitch of vtubers. They wanted a title that separated video-format vtubers from their livestream-oriented tubers.

>>18627302
Anyone have a link to the stream this is from, preferrably subbed?

>>18636955
Then what are they watching?

>>18641163
just type "Utako Luxiem" into youtube.

>>18625938
What are the reactions of the indogs and koreans?

>>18627302
She's saying that on the JP side, the girls are allowed to act whorish but not the boys? And that's why EN males acting whorish is remarkable?

>>18641198
Thanks.

>>18631076
>ID should've combined with EN
EN wants nothing to do with a bunch of ESLs who can only leech. Why would they cannibalize their own growth? All of the ID revenue comes from first world paypigs already.

>>18639326
I mean, I agree that we're not sending our best to NijiEN, but there's still a world of difference between 2nd/3rd gen immigrants who at least grew up alongside modern anglo culture and literal third worlders.

So ultimately they have both been put into Nijisanji hospice care, to be given minimal support until they graduate, so as to avoid the bad press of shitcanning them straight off.

>>18643500
Basically. The corpo bootlickers will try to tell you otherwise, but this is just a "yeah, we're totally gonna do it, like, really" thing corpos like to do with undesirables that for one reason or another can't be fired. If they succeed after this, it'll be all on their own.

>>18642806
>EN wants nothing to do with a bunch of ESLs who can only leech
What is most of Ethyria?

>>18641304
the Korean community is understandably mixed. on one hand, you see people thinking the groups saved from it's shitty management but on the other you see people thinking this constitutes a soft fold from the market altogether. there's also a number of angry comments about that there's no resolution to the Ara situation

>>18640064
As far as I know there is no mention of staff, and all the talents have dodged the questions. Which means they weren't told, or they know and don't want to say because it's grim. All I know if that if people were promised their jobs the talents would be bending over backwards to let everyone know that, and that isn't happening so far.

>>18643708
>>18643500
would be better if they just graduated all of the branch like India desu

>>18627486
I think someone (Mayuzumi?) as said that VTA -> Nijisanji is the intended path from now on. There might be special exceptions who got scouted, but they aren't holding normal JP auditions anymore.

>>18641434
Essentially. Nobody in JP is as explicitly lewd and especially not as explicitly fujobaity as the more popular Luxiem members. Although it's not the JP males aren't allowed to be like that, they just don't choose to be.

>>18645556
Seems like a mistake. Making experienced streamers go through some kind of silly bootcamp thing is a bit demeaning. I thought that academy thing was only meant for people with little to no streaming experience?

>>18640064
The press release said the overseas devisions would be "incorporated" into the main branch, yeah. But with corpo speak it's hard to say how much staff will be kept based on that.

>>18645802
We'll see how it goes. I imagine the next wave will be pure VTA, but there's no use speculating on what they'll do past that until we see how it goes.

>>18639592
>The language the Livers use on-stream is not relevant
So Irrelevant Lee Siu (Korean Fubuki) and Ko Yami decided to bail out in anticipation.

>>18646175
Maybe, maybe not. That branch had so many other problems already they could have both caused the talents to leave and also contributed toward Nijisanji folding it.

>>18643500
When things get bad enough that the old nip businessmen take back control of their foreign branch/market, it means it’s time to say your goodbyes and hope for the best.

>>18641304
mostly disappointed. they're afraid the "Nijisore, Nijiswara" program will be gone etc

you can check the reply section on both of their twitter / facebook account

>>18627158
>but blew it by being wild sluts
...so, Nijisanji livers?

>>18625938
>see your NijiEN male flourishing
>understand that you fucked up your NijiID with Hana
>know that your NijiKR will never take of
>focus most of your resources on NijiEN
I don't see anything wrong about this.