/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

So all it really took was a tribal image to make the thread shittier than usual.

>>18807702
broken windows theory
But no it;s primetime, it's always shitty during primetime

>>18807702
the girl in the OP is cute now. I don't like short hair though

So miko slipped? Gura gold is a possibility? I very much doubt Vox RFA can pass it

>>18807625
nijibros can finally breathe

>>18807756
>I don't like short hair though
DELET

>>18807663
I'm sure that was for her pre-order page. Link?

>>18807810
>rfa
that's his third right?

>>18807810
Gotta wait for chin man.

>>18807810
I don't think it's over for Miko yet, she can still incline.

before anybody goes full retard

>>18807625
I actually checked the NijiEN thread since I was curious about their reaction. Anyone who voiced concern about how fast Nijisanji is releasing waves were told to stop watching Nijisanji and go back to Hololive.

>>18807854
https://goodsmileshop.com/en/On-Sale-Now/Available-Now/Nendoroid-Honma-Himawari/p/GSC_WD_01925
Out of stock on JP site too.

>>18807892
Nijikeks really love the company more than their talents.

>>18807893
It's been a month, they already fixed it or won't fix it

>Miko gold slipped
What happened to 3k 35p?

>>18807810
depends, once the Bakatare collab ends there will be a funnel to her the question being when will it end and if it will be enough at that point

>>18807930
>won't fix it
this is the one

>>18807883
other streams are starting shortly
unless bakatare collab ends and funnel into her

>>18807944
it's the part of the minecraft stream where it's like 30 mins of counting

>>18807892
Well, I mean....
We knew this was bound to happen. There was no way they weren't going to keep releasing more chubbas for NijiEN. That's the Niji way. It won't stop until they get a wave that can't pay for itself.

>>18807944
3000 smart fridges aren't easy to boot up

Subaru Yakuza final episode?

>>18807984
No.

>>18807984
no she finished the story last stream, this is side content clean up

>>18807904
I'm pretty sure that was out of stock months ago. I don't remember GSC doing clearance sales.

>>18807913
The Roa Meiro drama proved it already. They first attacked Meiro, then Roa, then back to Meiro. But the management barely got blamed

>>18808018
Does GSC even hold stock? I remember a long time ago they were exclusively pre-orders only and then you had to buy them at third party retailers. I don’t really know how they operate these days.

>>18808068
at first I thought that was a japanese thing but appearently nijiniggers are all the same no matter where they are from

>>18808068
Except Nijisanji management already did all they could to alleviate the situation, it's not their fault that Meiro is insane.

>>18807756
Bikko is very cute, her creator's been drawing her since at least 2006 and does vtuber fanart now, mostly Korone

>>18807892
You don't often come across a fanbase as filtering as the nijien one. I actually really liked reimu at debut but the fanbase was insufferable so I put her as a second priority to watch. Then she latched onto a nijikr boy then vox came along and I just dropped her altogether.

wait, there is also Okayu birthday countdown later
that could also bring good numbers?
today's gold is still uncertain

Announcement for Numbers!
Bakatare Live (2/24, 20:00 JST)
I think it says 2nd anniversary of Bakatare? Working off of the runes I recognize to take a best guess.

>>18808084
Pretty sure it's pre-order only for nendoroids and you can only buy again on their site if it's rerelease.

>>18808018
This was from third party website then. Still has nothing to do with Anykara.

Predictions?

>>18807876
Chin man is starting at midnight, and even if he started a minute earlier he wouldn't pass it

Peko...

That's why there is no Bakatare yesterday

>>18808198
ahh, makes sense if it's some 3rd party stores.

>>18808224
Nothing personal Peko

>>18808224
Hololive should have a massive event for when Sora hits 1 million. I'm talking a big 3D thing with all the talents there.

Sora is the one talent that they can get away playing favorites with without drawing the fans ire so they should go all in.

>>18808209
Floor of 40k.
Potentially 50-60k depending on what they're planning on doing.

>>18808370
>all the talents
that'd be very difficult unless prerecorded and two hours long

>open vox stream
>NT akasupas
>HK akasupas
>messages read like sexual harrassments

>>18808408
never has this happened to any other streamer/vtuber

>>18807944
As a 35p I'm fine with giving the gold to sharkie.

>>18808408
Sorry lads, Daddy needs his money, now go out there and shake your asses for them ladies like the little whores you are

>>18808402
Group songs with each gen would be good.

Is Gura continuous inclining in subs due to the sheer size of her high sub count?

>>18808452
I only predicted higher because of trajectory, but yea she stalled out before hitting 33k.
I don't mind either way, Gura's my EN Oshi, but it was fun to see if Miko could make it.

>>18808408
The man whore

>>18808408
post screenshots

So... gura gold?

Ngl this is when Pekora weakness really show. She avoid collab and making friends. Look at Flare now, she's inclining thanks to all the connection and grouping she formed
Pekora was in so many popular group and pairing yet she abandon them all. Every time I look at Pekora I see a ton of wasted potential

>>18808457
Riku is kinda dreamy ngl. He is so talented and helping Nijisanji reach new height.

Is being a Nijimale with a birthday the single biggest money buff in existence? Well okay after 3D but you only get one of those while birthdays are every year

>>18808470
>Points to Ai
No, it isn't just that, though there is a "The biggest keeps getting bigger" aspect, the other is that despite not having the greatest CCV in all of Hololive, her fanbase IS global (per Cover's own analytics). As she keeps getting recognition in other markets and keeps getting clips, so too does her popularity and recognition continue to grow.
I really want to see how a new ori-song on her channel does compared to Reflect, especially if it has an MV attached.

>>18808531
She’s always been a bit of a loner.

>>18808452
barely not get gold for the 5th billion time
that's your typical Miko there
queen of slippage

>>18808543

holy shit. this is way more than i ever expected for him

>>18808470
That’s an unlikely explanation otherwise Calli and the JP girls would have to be matching Gura’s subs growth from when she had a little under 2M

>>18808543
>$24k
Daaaaamn. Also yes, Nijibloke B-days always bring in the dosh from what I've seen.

>>18808470
Nobody fucking knows, Gura is an anomaly in every single way. Pekora stops streaming for a week and her sub growth craters into the ground. Gura takes a week off and her sub growth chugs along like nothing happens. This literally only ever happens to her, its madness trying to explain it

>>18808562
Miko is inclining again, back up to 31k. Its not over yet.

>>18808432
Of course it does. Difference is it happens way more often with Vox.

>>18808589
It’s the duolingo vod… except with all her vods.

>>18808589
If that is not because of bots then I don't even know how

>>18808549
>>18808589

>>18808589
every single group of youtubers i've followed over the last 14 years has behaved the same way, the one in first gets subs just for existing

>>18808147
See? Literally proved my point

>>18808470
Youtube algorithm presents a Gura clip or VOD to a viewer -> The tend to click, watch, like, and subscribe at a higher rate than normal videos -> YouTube algorithm presents Gura clips and VODs to more viewers, who do likewise
Positive feedback loop. Why? Because she's cute, entertaining, sings nicely, has a cute design, etc. etc. etc.

>>18808559
Yeah and it is biting her back this time. Number declining hard and no regular collab partner or popular grouping to help pulling it up, you can only go solo for so long
I remember rewatching UsaKen clips over and over, now no one even remember it exist

>>18808543
Lain...

>>18808562
LMAO its so true. Miko always tends to have her biggest streams on days where there is some huge event or something like that. She has a massive amount of bronze medals.

>>18808543
>sub 5k ccv
>24k fujo bux

>>18808671
manjisanji...

>>18808589
Not just sub growth. When Gura stops streaming she somehow keeps staring in the top views wise. Pekora doesn't. I mean yeah her songs are view engines but nothing like Mori or Suisei's catalogue

>>18808589
You know there's this rule called "The rich get richer" right?

>>18808669
Well she is part of what is probably the most popular and certainly biggest pairing in Hololive history. She just needs to swallow her pride a bit and make up with that pink haired lesbian. Instant numbers.

>>18808751
See >>18808583. For that to be anywhere close to an explanation Calli (among others) would be machine Gura’s sub 2M growth rate

>>18808743
I imagine people see Gura’s vods in a similar fashion of the old let’s play youtubers which is why her vod views balloon.

>>18808787
sorry, Miko is Suisei's property now

PekoMiko niggers are so starved of interactions they're mistaking delusions as reality.

>>18808799
>machine
Matching

>>18808181
Nah, it wouldn't. Probably 10k at most.

>>18808531
>She avoid collab and making friends
PET Bottle, next.

>>18808787
Anon, that's not PekoMoona picture.

>>18808181
Vox Ring Fit is well on its way to 700k

>33k gold

If Toya decides to start a bit early this won't do. Not high enough

>>18808813
Man, people must have a lot of time if they can watch 3-hour videos. It's a good thing most streamers nuke their VODs.

>>18808787
She won't. That's why I said I see a fuck ton of wasted opportunity when I look at her

>>18808543
>s being a Nijimale with a birthday the single biggest money buff in existence?
nah. graduation is a bigger buff

>>18808813
>similar fashion of the old let’s play youtubers
That’s my theory as well and Gura lends herself to exactly that.
More often than not she throws one liners and memes that are ripe for clipping and viral spread.

Ame used to be like that in the debut buff months but then she grew self conscious and stopped

How can NijiEN get overall gold and not EN gold?

>>18808889
>It's a good thing most streamers nuke their VODs.
in...what way is this a good thing?

>>18808470
My hypothesis: all the girls gets clips but not only does Gura get a ton, there is an entire ecosystem of people clipping her karaoke. Once you click one of those links your recommendations will be full of her covers and playlists, and she’s actually an amazing singer. I’ll sometimes put on Gura sings part 22 or whatever as background noise while I work. Singing content is also super accessible globally

>>18808929
Wut?

>>18808929
Mysta and Vox offcollab

https://youtu.be/SWDTdXH6oF0

>>18808889
>. It's a good thing most streamers nuke their VODs
Why, because you think millions would watch and rewatch their VODs? Yeah don't worry about that, that's not a thing anyone is doing for most streamers. Remember, Gura is an anomaly.

>>18808889
I used to binge watch the old game grumps (when Jontron was in it) lets plays back in the day, it’s not really unheard of.

>>18808929
Anon what are you talking about

>>18807892
That is pretty much their reaction to any criticism. Presumably because 95% of them are (former) HoloEN fans they know it is a suggestion that fits.

GURA GOLD
>GURA GOLD
GURA GOLD
>GURA GOLD

>>18808966
Me, but Rust VOD videos of whatever the blokes that did trap houses back then. I used to put it on background during work hours and tab in when the main action started.

(Then they added electric stuff on rust and it more or less killed the magic)

>>18808929
Collab with Kuzuha without Kuzuha POV.

>>18809009
Migo is still dangerously close to sharkie gold. If a member of Shiraken hops in with her its ogre.

>>18808787
Miko randomly show up on Pekora's stream boosted it to 50k a while back
she is the ultimate buff machine, anyone working with her will incline
and that's what Pekora is lacking right now, a proper group or work partner
pebottle is now fucked with Rushia's absence

>>18808531
Im sure flare is doing quite well but i dont think she's inclining. One look at holostats and i see no incline.

>>18809043
>and that's what Pekora is lacking right now, a proper group or work partner
What she’s lacking is rest and, after that, proper motivation. She’s more or less in the same stage Haachama was back in late 2020

>riding a peak of popularity but with the head all Haachamachama

>>18808976
>>18808954
He's asking if there's any way for NijiEN to have the highest-viewed stream in a day.
The full NijiEN collab actually had a chance, when the day was weak, but Kuzuha came along and swept it away both the Gold and Silver
https://vrabi.ml/daily/2022-02-15
So, it'd take
>An exceptionally weak day from HoloJP + NijiJP
>An extremely buffed 'all NijiEN hands on deck collab on the main channel'
>Host it during JP primetime

>>18809039
>back to 29k
Yeah no

>>18809043
peko,towa,botan

>>18808671
Voice doesn't fit. Management fucked up hard.

>>18809009
Chin will enter.

>top 3 streams so far
Give or take some 200 for live-ranking missing some peaks

>>18809135
For an inverse of what happens when you get a voice + model match....
>La+ Darkness

>>18807892
I don’t get why everyone is freaking out about a new wave when it wasn’t announced though.

>>18809135
The design is superb. Whose voice out of all currently existing chuubas would be a better fit?

>>18809140
heres vrabi's

>>18809139

if he steals the gold i'm going to kneel forever

>>18809166
Japanese, English or all?

So Myth expanded NA markets while Council manage to carve out a good chunk of KR market.

I wonder what unexpected market can HoloEN3 get. I hope it's not ES though.

>>18808929
what? if they get overall gold that means they also get EN gold

>>18809166
Flare

>>18809166
Old Towa/ Ryugasaki Rene/ any deep voice

>L-Lui-nee… ;-(
This Pokemon version truly flopped for streamers, didn’t it?

>>18809203
I mean, numbers, but if you thought what Vox, Mysta and Luca was bad...

>>18809139
>Toya start streaming at 23:55
>31k at 24:00

Has Chloe's paypigs moved on already? Never would I thought that she'd lose to a NijiEN. A male at that.

>>18809223
It looks bad and it's extremely grindy

>>18809203
HOLOES WHEN?

>>18808408
Shit like this is really destructive towards the male side of vtubing with the kind of degenerate viewers Luxiem brings in.

>>18809223
It's really bland, pokefags like to say is the most fun Pokemon game in a while but it does the basic for a open world game, the only hype moment for streamers is the ending

>>18809195
All

>>18809213
>>18809219
I see Lain and immediately think of LupusRegina from overlord, for some reason.

>>18809203
EU

>>18809203
just a reminder that myth still dominates the NA market. Those who's comparing Luxiem, show me their SC currencies

>>18809246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-PSB4Vgl9Q
Coco lost to fucking Suisei and Miko the month after she got monetized, one off-month doesn't mean anything for her long-term prospects

>>18809278
Why degenerates? They are just acting like 4chan so I think it's quite normal.

>>18809223
Pokemon fatigue. The fact that 2 pokemon games were released one after another really hurt the streamers.

>>18809299
Lmao
I would take Lupusregina for Lain's voice.

>>18809140
>Miko 32k
I thought ARK is bigger buff than Minecraft

>>18809278
Hopefully that shit gets contained to just Luxiem. I'd hate for that sort of behavior to get transferred over to NijiJP males

>>18809297
It is the best pokemon game made in while, the problem is that it's best by virtue of being better than the 2.5d pokemon games that came before it. As a 3d open world sandbox game it's pretty shit, and if you're not playing it that's what you're going to judge it by.

>>18809350
Riku will force Luxiem to collab more with NijiJP so the fujos will spill over. It already works with NijiID and NijiKR already.

>>18809329
anon there's a reason we shitpost about licking Gura's pissy cunny here and not in her chat. There's a difference between acting like coombrain degenerates behind closed doors and doing it right to the streamer's face

>>18809304
There is no “EU” market. There is Britain, there is France, there is Spain (all of these with a huge colonial market elsewhere in the world), then there is a mishmash of assorted midgets whose local content never becomes successful internationally and vice versa due to the cost of targeting said market exclusively.

Holo total CCV around 63k, Niji's around 129k
kek

>>18809278
HoloStarsEN can save it by having this lineup

1. A bro sports tuber (Madden, Fifa, NBA2K)
2. A hardcore (and I mean hardcore) gamer. Either a competitive FPS guy or a legit speedrunner
3. An actual jive talking nigger

That should be the group of 3.

Actually the speedrunner thing should be looked into. There are tons of super talented speed runners that get like 2views on twitch. Great opportunity there.

>>18809406

>>18804812
>>18804767
it is pretty funny, though.

>>18809440
Using this shitpost against those numbers is as retarded as using wojak.

>>18809440
God I fucking hate Holofags so much.

>>18809406
It's closer to about 110-115k, but yes, Hololive total skinny RN and will likely remain skinny until after HoloFes.

>>18809278
I wish Vox would at least add rules like the JP guys, but they give him so much money I doubt he cares.

>>18809437
They’re gonna try to copy the fujo baiting shit like Nijisanji unfortunately.

>>18809478
Do you also go into cat lovers forums and talk about how much you hate cats?

>>18809437
Have you seen male indie vtubers? You’re getting another Luxiem

>>18809401
Can just do what they did with the commie fox. EN who can speak rus. There are more russian Holofags than Nijifags anyway.

>>18809478
But making up that Nijisanji has 129k watchers right now is cool?

>>18809440
The fact that someone actually spent time making this is embarrassing.

Kinda funny when you think about it:

HoloEN, HoloID, HoloJP and even Holostars are probably busy preparing for Holo Expo. Those not performing at Holo Fes 3 will likely attend Holo Expo through livestream anyway.

On the other hand, NijiID and NijiKR are gone. NijiEN has to carry the remnants of NijiID and NijiKR. NijiJP has to cancel their own concert.

>>18809562
Success breeds jealousy

>>18809523
We know that Hololive isn't shy about looking outside traditional vtuber circles in who they hire. Like I said, there are a ton of super talented speed runners that get no viewership on twitch. Good opportunity. Also, the jive talking nigger could be big. He wouldn't have to shill his mix tape anymore.

>>18809523
they're not doing starsEN anytime soon so they have time to look

>>18809551
Go to vrabi and find this peak yourself, faggot.

>>18808149
Based bikko poster. I remember coming across her on 420chan's net characters board back in like 2009 kek.

>>18809606
If anything, being a “big” indie vtuber is usually a mark against you for Hololive auditions.

Man, rewatching Gura's karaoke, I realized how kino it is. No fucking wonder she is always topping charts and viewership.

People keep trolling about IronMouse or Nyanners being the top EN vtuber but Gura is by far the most influential.

>>18809685
He obviously has retard, and yes it's nowhere near 129k

>>18809685
Back your shit up or you're bullshiting.
Blame the retards who kept making shit up about Niji's peak numbers

>>18809745
Hololive is tanking for Holofes.
Too many injuries.

>>18809606
Lmao, Hololive has the worst scouting ever, especially HoloEN:
Myth - untalented failures, carried by pre-existing fanbase.
Irys - absolutely incompetent as a singer
Council - a bunch of untalented and lazy whores.

>>18809715
It worked for myth and didn't work for council. I think hololive should just go the NijiEN style the next wave and only grab known indies. It's safer since they'll be playing games most of the time like indies.

>>18809836

>>18808751
>rule
No it’s a phrase and just because you can describe some phenomenon numerically (be it material wealth, view count, or anything else), that doesn’t mean that all the “rules” from one field apply to the other. “The rich get richer” doesn’t explain how the rich get richer or why some rich people get richer faster than than others.

>>18809836

>>18809493
>I wish Vox would at least add rules like the JP guys, but they give him so much money I doubt he cares.
He knows vtubing isn't a long-term gig, so he's maximizing his income potential without caring about the consequences.

>>18809745
the actual peak at the time the post was made for nijijp was 105k (among 21 streams, 3 above 10k) while holojp was at 58k (among 5 streams, 2 above 10k)

>>18809840
Touching EN indies is like purposefully infecting yourself with syphilis

>>18809854
Yes, that is an example of boring and untalented whore, right on your picture. Thanks, anon, for the great example, right in time.

>>18809906
Why is vtubing not a long-term gig? It seems HoloEN members seem to consider doing this for a long time though.

>>18809984
>Why is vtubing not a long-term gig? It seems HoloEN members seem to consider doing this for a long time though.
For a male vtuber?

Miko is down to 27k

With less than an hour until midnight JST I think we might be looking at a legit Gura overall gold.

>>18810036
wasn't kenmochi going to stream, a couple of anons mentioned it

>>18810036
I was just on the phone with Pekora, she says she's seen the numbers and is about to log onto minecraft

>>18810059
It's scheduled for midnight. Comes down to if he starts on the dot/after or before midnight.

>>18809984
because eventually the hype will dry up and so will the attention you get, and unlike Hololive Nijisanji doesn't have a safety net or an escape plan for when that happens so this is just being smart.

>>18809606
>jive talking nigger could be big
Don’t know about “jive talking” but I could see a “Black Lagoon” styled vtuber ensemble working in the western vtuber YouTube scene

>one deep voiced decently spoken no nonsense black man
>one soft styled computer geek
>one half Chinese half American bratty tomboy
>one soviet styled rough Russian onee sama
and
>one Japanese salaryman to tie them all together

Of course I assume that wouldn’t fit Hololive (more focused on the entertainment side of the business) but Nijisanji or even one of the smaller corpos could pull this one off.

>>18809984
Hololive members and the top echelon of NijiJP see it as a long term career. For everyone else it’s a very volatile industry.

>>18807073
>>18806479
>>18806343
>>18806366
>>18806479
Remember these posts whenever nijiniggers start complaining about getting unfairly targetted

Can I ask, will Holo Expo include talking booths for non HoloJP members?

I'm seeing only one akasupa in Chloe's stream

>>18810018
Vox used his throat too much just like Marine,remember he already took a day off because throat problem?

>>18809984
Why would you think being a streamer is a viable long-term career? Eventually you’ll fizzle out and get replaced.

>>18809984
NTA, but Vtubing is way too volatile to be a steady source of income. If we consider Ai as the official start of VTubers than in less than a decade we've had at least 3 companies that have occupied the top (Upd8>Anykara>Cover), multiple agencies going under and multiple changes too the meta. Not saying that Vtubing will stay volatile forever cause for all we know we might finally be seeing it stabilize but no one sane will ever want to be left holding the bag in the event that it still isn't stable

>>18810196
Is he faking his voice or what?

>>18810212
It's why Cover is going with the approach it is, to try and branch out into multiple entertainment venues such that even if everyone took a MASSIVE hit in viewership, there's still be other avenues to earn money.

>>18810195
as long as you don't involve yourself in some drama it very much can be a long term career

>Mori rebroadcast : already above Kiara's unarchived Karaoke
Chimken....

Good news guys,
Peko will return tomorrow.

>>18810212
That's why Cover is actively investing in more venues like music and gaming, two that can help Hololive brand last way longer than most vtuber agencies.

>>18810212
Enikara -> doing more and more music related things and improving their tech. The virtual host club thing went poorly but an effort was made. The academy thing remains to be seen.
Cover -> trying to make a multimedia franchise with everything from manga to games and concerts too

Both are trying to diversify as much as possible for a very good reason, they don't know how sustainable the streaming aspect of their business is. Reinvestment never goes into streaming better.

>>18810268
You’re delusional. Even if you don’t get into drama you’ll eventually fall off simply because the internet moves so fast.

>>18810326
I'll believe it when it happens, I'm losing faith on Peko

>>18810340
Anykara: Music is going nowhere while tech is slowly falling behind. And not to mention financial problems as well.

>>18810180
It's her fault for admitting she was a perverted womanchild who is a ward of her own genmate.

>>18810212
Its not indifferent from professional wrestling. You have a couple big names at the top (WWE, AEW, and NJPW compared to Hololive, Nijisanji, and Vshojo), and a bunch of smaller indie/corpo shit of varying success underneath them. Those indies/small corpos start up and fold all the time in vtubing just like it does in wrestling, but the top of very very stable. Vtubing is much the same way. Hololive and Nijisanji have seen continued and stable success for years now so to think that they would just randomly fall off and decline seems pessimistic in general.

>>18810311
and Irys...

>>18810391
That's not my point, my point is that the companies at the top are trying to diversify, not the amount of success they're getting or will get.

>>18810351
I'm looking at vtubing as just being a content creator in the west.
yeah, you'll fall off if you let your content get stale but there are content creators who have been at it for years now and show no signs of stopping. as long as you don't get canceled and keep your content fresh you'll still be able to stay active.

>>18810326
>No hype
Yep she's dead, return stream won't even hit 30k

>>18810326
with pokemon?
she still hasn't finish it yet right?

>Mori's rebroadcast is beating Vox
What happened Voxbros? I thought he was supposed to get 500k for this stream!

>>18808531
anon the problem is most holos are at minimum prison gay and pekora hates homosexuals

>>18810492
Saying "hasn't finished" is an overexaggeration since she just barely got out of the tutorial

>>18809606
speed running is not fun to watch you idiot

>>18810502
second rfa for him and mysta fag, how much more baiting can a fag get

>>18810351
Anon, many of the Hololive girls have been content creators on the internet for over a decade now. Now that the industry is pretty stable there's no reason not to think that this can last as a long-term career plan, and even if your throat can't keep up with the streaming anymore there's always chances for them to transition into backroom staff, imagine how useful it would be for the most inexperienced member of Hololive Gen 11 to have someone like Marine as their manager

>>18810502
oh nonono EN gold contender they said

I would love to see the power duo of Gura and Mumei collab again. What kind of games can they play to get big number?

>lost 2 hours worth of anatomy flashcards
Welp, which holo should I watch to ease my suffering?

>>18810540
It isn't, unless you're a skilled streamer to begin with, in which case you can do it with other content anyways.
Like, I could see a speedrun of Megaman X while explaining what you're doing good as a one-of, but that's a whole lot of different skillsets which again, begs the question for a male in NA: why bother with vtubing instead of facecam streaming?

>>18810536
How rotted is your brain really?

>>18810647
https://youtu.be/mUIMguFPglI
Watch Luna

>>18810647
Listen to some Gura Karaoke (there are channels out there that have all the songs, unless you already did catch her stuff earlier )

>>18810645
nah, Gura and Fauna is the superior duo

>>18810656
The only reason I brought up speed runners in particular is because there are a lot of really talented speed runners who get basically no viewership on twitch. A proposition like HoloStarsEN would be appealing to them.

>>18810705
>Powerwash simulator
Gura....

>>18810656
>begs the question for a male in NA: why bother with vtubing instead of facecam streaming?
you got "canceled" as a streamer and are trying to hide your identity

>>18810837
or you're ugly as fuck

>>18810737
That's fair, there likely are some that ARE good at entertaining an audience, are skilled, but just never got any traction.
>>18810837
Dox'd in 5 minutes of your voice being revealed and you know it. Not a viable option in this day and age.

>>18810799
still wondering wtf happened
>gura removed it because of perms and shit
>they have perms confirmed by devs themselves
>silence
either perms not carrying over to EN, management not allowing specific members to play certain games, or Gura using perm to avoid playing it

>>18810922
they got the perms on the JP side using square enix, so as long as square enix doesn't approve it for streaming globally it doesn't matter what the devs say, same deal with the muse dash guys

>>18810922
>Perm not carrying over to EN
Most likely

>>18810922
Devs gave perms after Gura changed the schedule, via a tweet and not 7 copies of fax. Expecting Cover to adapt to that in time for Gura's second TBA stream(which was 2 days later) is very optimistic. Roberu had perms because of blank squeenix perms that only apply to JP(roru)

>>18810896
>Dox'd in 5 minutes of your voice being revealed and you know it.
some people will not care to search for dox or actively ignore it so you still can build a fanbase

>>18811024
The issue with 'getting cancelled' is not that those who watch you will search for dox, it's your 'former life' detractors hounding you to your vtuber life and causing issues. I'm not sure HoloEN would be comfortable taking on such a risk, given how bloody risk averse they've been all this time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hgxyjPAgvA

Hololive seems to like releasing playlist like this. Is it their way of providing BGM to talents?

>>18811163
yes, for example one of the daily diary remixes that came up in one of these became miko's bgm for like 2 months
also, they're good for farming vod views, like asmr streams

>>18811009
Tweets gets deleted retard and in no way does provide a formal agreement between the two sides

>>18811081
hey just saying what one of the reasons could be to go chuuba as a en male
hell i think there were some rumors about one of the nijiEN dudes having some major shit in his life before joining but i didn't care so i never looked deeper into it

Luxiem carrying the whole Niji in January, seems to continue this Febuary too.

>>18810394
I don't watch her but, really? Is it recent? Her SCs are pretty terrible the past few days.

Gura gold I'm erect

>>18811377
>inb4 toya starts at 23:57 and gets 34k before 1am

>>18811310
No wonder they suddenly collabs with a bunch of NijiKR and NijiID. Management probably forces them to help those smaller members.

>>18811420
Toya of all people blueballing us out of hornyposting Gura would be the ultimate irony

>unarchived karaoke for max viewership
>rebroadcast said karaoke with SCs on
>still good viewership
>people still send SCs
ENbros are so cucked

https://twitter.com/fromsoftware_sp/status/1495730109848125441
https://twitter.com/fromsoftware_sp/status/1495730418922012674

>>18811620
>According to the current guidelines, it is possible to post and distribute videos using the main body functions of the game console. We are also preparing to revise the guidelines, and will release them in the near future. We will inform you as soon as it is updated. Thank you for your cooperation.

>>18811545
>unarchived karaoke for max viewership
>rebroadcast said karaoke with SCs on
>still good viewership
>people still send SCs
I thought Cover was hard on music permissions.

>>18811620
hololive will have Elden Ring permissions in the future...?

So HoloEN gold today then. Nijisanji is really unlucky.

>>18811310
I hope manangement suggesting Higuchi to start baiting gachikoi is a meme made up by the voice in someone's head.

>>18811672
So no OBS allowed? Only direct stream from console?
>>18811718
Well as of now no one has Elden Ring permission.

>>18811672
I doubt Cover would buy it.

>>18811727
Gura cunny posting!!!

why is yashiro so high, you guys told me ygo buff was dying

>>18811620
Akutan Fromsoft kino back on the menu?

/#/ is declining.

>>18811835
hey man

>POOL IS CLOSED
Toya still didn't start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2KMS1PHEt0

Seems like Gura has it

>>18811834
Direct console streaming only. No OBS/overlay/live2d etc

>>18811620
Noel, Flare, Aqua, Luna, Haato massive incline inc

>>18811727
Miko loves George and let her took the day

>>18811310
Niji's shotgun strat is kinda working??? They got a lot of those mid-tier SCs, those around 10-30k

>>18811620
bless Jun, his tweet probably kicked this off

>>18811861
what the fuck is that shit

>>18811692
no that's one of the upsides of them being hard on permissions, they are officially clear to monetize their karaokes.

>>18811834
Purely wait and see.
I suspect they realized that
-They goofed in that support response
-That they'd have to deal with a lot of streamers getting reported for 'breaching guidelines' as they have them and they might not want to deal with the headache with their current guidelines.
>>18811750
Currently that appears to be the case? I don't know enough about console broadcast vs OBS to say definitely.
>>18811766
Of course not. Written explicit or bust is how they've operated, and they only accepted non-monetized for Rockstar games likely due to how important GTAV was to Miko in saving her career (speculation).

Gura getting gold really shows how dead this day was

toya didn't start before midnight so your gold is safe chumkeks
also okayu bd countdown peaked at 18k

https://youtu.be/gAVimWJFtGA

Gura has another fan animation. However, the views are quite low.

>>18811933
>Of course not. Written explicit or bust is how they've operated, and they only accepted non-monetized for Rockstar games likely due to how important GTAV was to Miko in saving her career (speculation).
No they actually got a response from rockstar, which is why they allowed for that.

>>18811861
CUNNNNNYYYYYYYYYY!!!!

>>18811750
that's what they have on their website right now. It's okay to use PS4 and Steam built-in streaming function but nothing else.

>>18811545

time for shark lewds?

>>18811967 (me)
ez mill for okayu, gonna have to wait for the actual 3D live for more i guess, but people are still sending SCs

>>18812037
>3D
anon...

>>18811766
Vague permission is NG for them indeed. But this gives hope for those who want to see Holo play Elden Ring.
>>18811933
>they only accepted non-monetized for Rockstar games likely due to how important GTAV was to Miko in saving her career (speculation)
Rockstar did give them permission on the condition that it's not monetized.

>>18811895
Can't you see they're getting killed by the Holos there? A quarter of their size but double the income.

Yagoo and Riku really need to suck Miyazaki's dick for streaming rights it seems like. Why are Japs so anal with this shit.

>>18811620
THANK YOU BASED JUN!
>WHY DO YOU HATE PEKORA'S HUSBAND AGAIN, ANONS!?

>>18812070
yes anon, her 3D live with 9 guests for her birthday, i pointed out this is the countdown already

>>18812037
Okayu is probably a top 5 GFE holo and baits gachikoi all the time. Her SCs are actually pretty low for her content.

>>18811925
Whelp. There goes any hope for these hoes to ever do archived karaoke ever again.

>>18812156
I mean...
I figure she keeps the heaviest of the stuff to her members iirc? I wouldn't doub that there's quite a bit of SCs locked behind closed doors as a result.

>>18812156
The rich gachikois are all doxxers and she is a fat cat.

>>18812171
Blame the music industry for being an asanine legal nightmare

>>18812171
Bae literally just had an archived karaoke like yesterday.

Peko's gold tomorrow?

Not a vtuber anymore but a certain someone is also getting a nice payday for her birthday

>>18811310
Merch+Concerts+Collabs+Sponsorships>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SCs

NijiJP is fine and don't rely on SCs for anything. It's like having some brown sauce on your roast, it's fine without some.

>>18812171
Nah.
Bae just did one the other day, and IRyS intends to keep doing archived stuff. Its just that you basically can't do ANY EN songs if it's not unarchived.

>>18812244
I'd still do it, she has nice eyes.
>>18812226
Yes, she goes pretty hard during members streams.

>>18812090
Can you use live2d with the console functions?

>>18812256
so Gibara left because Nijisanji is a black company confirmed?

>>18811620
Why are they addressing that now when everybody except holos has been streaming it?

Man, Nijisanji is going to need some serious human sacrifice if they want to secure someome with mass appeal like Gura.

>>18812156
it's because outside of collabs, okayu doesn't really have that great of a floor, i'd say it's pretty nice for her considering how trash her ccv can get
she's way more niche than people think, and her r*m is a bit of a debuff

>>18812249
Anon...
Do you remember a certain Fat Cat has something today?

>>18812171
You just can't sing English songs or Disney songs.

>>18812249
>Peko's gold tomorrow?
I truly doubt

FAT CAT RELEASE THE GUEST LIST

>>18812310
>https://twitter.com/jun04_dayo/status/1495635350940950529

kneel to this guy

>>18812308
was there ever any doubt

>>18812310
because Jun raised a fuss about it
And also because operation Nijicaust is in the works

>>18812156
>GFE holo a
That's hillariously incorrect description dude.

>>18812249
Doesn't seem like she will make it a big thing, I doubt she would even get into top 3

has okayu said anything about the guests other than the total
we can only assume korosan will be there

>>18812247
I don't really care about her but that's nice. Hope more of them would follow suit but that doesn't seem to be the case seeing how they're more partial to sing english songs rather than japanese ones for obvious reasons. I just wish they'd actually try archived karaoke sometimes.

>>18812258
now SCs don't matter as much, make up your mind nijibros

red heart just hit 7 million views...wow

>>18812368
It's true though. Any holo that says it's okay to consider them your girlfriend and blow kisses is on that level.

>rapurasu beating kanae on twitch Valo
Will Holo incline on twitch?

>>18812479
Wait, I thought Nijifags try to play up SC while most Holofags brag about not needing SCs.

>>18812501
>Any holo that says it's okay to consider them your girlfriend and blow kisses
i fucking hate GFE. The worst shit that could happen

>>18812568
homosexual

>Chloe SC not even 1k USD
What went wrong?

Lapras easy 10k on Twitch.

>>18812568
you're weak

>>18812517
Gura will crush Twitch #, others will stay the same.

>>18812517
>10k at fucking midnight in JST
>She's playing with Iroha
Ah. Sense, but that's still not bad.

>>18812568
Most keep it to members only and keep the GFE content and regular content extremely segregated. Most people think Flare is a lesbian, no nonsense person...

>>18812554
That's true. Holos don't need it but Nijis certainly do after knowing they're kinda having financial woes according to Deron.

>>18812554
Exactly, but since the graph showed holo ate niji back in January, nijicope is that SC don't matter as much

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>33,028: Gura (Hololive)
>11,693: Baelz (Hololive)
>11,690: Mori (Hololive)
>10,951: Vox (Nijisanji)
>9,261: IRyS (Hololive)
>9,091: Kiara (Hololive)
>8,424: Ina (Hololive)
>6,667: Enna (Nijisanji)
>5,576: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>5,112: Vox (Nijisanji)

>Chloe has been reclining on superchats.
Latest 4 streams says otherwise. The other one is also a sponsored stream so no superchat reading after the stream. Once Chloe completes the games a lot of 11,968 will come out.

>>18812604
Based on my calculations, my conclusion is natural recline.

>>18812501
I don't think you have ever properly watched her mate. She's not GFE, she's borderline saying "I want you to use me as your fap material because I love it".

>>18812692
>Deron
Is that what you're calling the voices in you head now?

>>18812723
EN Gold so far for February

1. Gura (Hololive) - 14,594
2. Amelia (Hololive) - 16,124
3. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,090
4. Gura (Hololive) - 15,901
5. Gura (Hololive) - 21,737
6. Gura (Hololive) - 15,900
7. Baelz (Hololive) - 9,914
8. Mumei (Hololive) - 15,409
9. Vox (Nijisanji) - 14,841
10. Mori (Hololive) - 21,458
11. Kronii (Hololive) - 11,342
12. Baelz (Hololive) - 12,112
13. Ike (Nijisanji) - 11,391
14. IRyS (Hololive) - 15,466
15. Nijisanji English Official (Nijisanji) - 22,662
16. Gura (Hololive) - 18,916
17. Gura (Hololive) - 16,266
18. Kiara (Hololive) - 19,426
19. Mori (Hololive) - 26,667
20. Gura (Hololive) - 17,726
21. Gura (Hololive) - 33,028

Hololive - 18
Nijisanji - 3
Others - 0

I feel like whatever goodwill people had for Sana is pretty much gone at this point. I don't even know how you can recover at this point, especially in the 6 month mark

>>18812723
kys

>>18812723
>>18812759
kys

>>18812759
>>18812723
kys

>>18812743
aka, the honeymoon phase of free money every stream is likely over, and now she'll need to earn her paydays.

>>18812723
Ringfit bros....

>>18812588
>>18812613
nah. I hate people that are begging for money and are as shameless as the GFE vtubers. The Rushia thing is well deserved for her and her fanbase. Stand on your own, don't rely on other people and manipulate them

>>18812751
??
Are you a tourist or something?

>>18812761
has it really been 6 months since council debuted

>>18812723
kys

>>18812751
uhmmm. Anonchama, you do know Deron is Kaede, right? a niji member

>>18812723
Bae getting that much from playing Apex. Thats actually impressive

>>18812818
Deron to me: the okay-ish singer thta goes by Higuchi Kaede
Deron to you: a voice in your head telling you that this will be the end of nijisanji for the 7th time this month

>>18812761
Just do a draw stream. Ina even gets sponsored by wacom for doing it.

>>18812761
yea, she's pretty much wasted it. The last sanalite can have her.

I love how this thread has 2 running jokes right now:

- # is declining - Hey man
- EN gold - Kys

>>18812864
Gura actually told people to watch other ongoing streams at the end of her karaoke + IRyS/Mumei buff. Bae's CCV literally doubled when Gura ended her stream.

>>18812881
Are you fucking retarded? Go watch her anniversary stream, you filthy EOP.

>>18812864
It was a trio-collab with IRyS and Mumei, plus she caught a funnel from Gura.

>>18811310
zombie fag is bigger than whole NijiID+NijiKR?

>>18812761
comparison with holox after almost 3 months for shits and giggles

>>18812776
>>18812780
>>18812788
>>18812845
Are this EN schizo? I recently saw this "EN Gold" thing but it's still numbers no?

>>18812761
Sana is the fucking hime hajime of hololive

>>18812881
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnKgSVgb3sA
here you go, anon. Do your reps

>>18812751
>>18812881
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnKgSVgb3sA
Now suck it

>>18813054
kys

>>18812723
Next stop: SC gold

>>18813054
kys

>>18813022
none of them using the vtuber tag...

>>18813082
>>18813072
fake, no timestamps

>>18813054
At this point I'm pretty sure it's done almost out of obligation to the shitpost-turned-real.

>>18813023
That's the same growth despite debuting much later. So their explosive start just fizzled out?

>>18812966
With luck we might have a third one coming soon

>>18813131
I'll not do your reps for you, anon.

>>18813022
>no spoilers

>>18813054
kys

>>18813129
They're confident enough not to have to rely on the extra tag. That or it just doesn't occur to them it's something they need/should do.

>>18812354
I kneel pekohusbando!

>>18812970
I wonder if Gura is aware of the "chumbuds don't watch other members" meme and actively got her viewers to funnel in this time.

>>18812723
>>18812759
OH NO NO NO VOXBROS THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

>>18812703
Nijisanji hasn't beaten Hololive in SCs in like 18 months.

>>18812479
Scs are chump change. I'm a holo fan and even I know the money comes from merch, sponsorships, and company collabs. SCs, memberships, and YT revenue is great too but they aren't the steak and potatoes.

So what type of Japanese viewers use Twitch anyway? I though most of them watch streams on YT?

>>18812723
>>18813229
>Vox Ring Fit didn't even get a medal
oh no no no

>>18813240
aren't the biggest in twitch like jun and shaka or something like that

>>18812899
The problem is she won't and it's because she clearly doesn't feel the need to do it either since she doesn't take being in Hololive seriously

>>18813240
>what type of Japanese viewers
the type where their oshis stream on Twitch and they go along

>>18813310
what do you fucking expect? that's his second rfa. Same with Mysta, second rfa got nerf numbers

>>18813312
Those are the top 2 for JP on Twitch yea. Also RTAinJapan is on Twitch.

>>18813240
FPSfags?

>>18813054
If spacha anon posted a chart every day of the highest earning vtubers with blue hair that would be numbers, but it wouldn't be useful numbers and neither is this EN gold special olympics

>>18813314
If I was a finalist for gen 2 I would be fucking seething like a maniac over Sana. I can understand thinking you couldn't outdo some of the others but Sana? I'd probably voice these complaints on 4channel.

>>18813424
i want pink women olympics

>>18813366
That's not the way the nijiniggers were selling it, don't you dare backpedal now

How's Toya?

>>18811310
Luxiem fags cannibalized King's gachikois, great job anykara.

>>18813522
which is hilarious because the ones who get shit on here the most often is Kronii

clown why, this is like the 11th one

>>18812743
She just needs to get back to at least weekly zatsudans and utawakus, that's her bread and butter since her previous life and I hate that the Hololive meta makes these girls think they need to play games all the time to be sucessful

* Holos and Nijis at the top of the hour on the 11PM slot *
Pretty much equally matched in total audience, with the NijiJP "midgets" making up for the difference at the top brackets.

Adding ID and KR wouldn't change much with Moona alone being over the sum of those two branches at the 11h59 mark

>>18813556
pretty underwhelming for a toya stream, he's usually above 30k by the 20 min mark, it's been 40 mins and he's still around 28k

>>18812703
Kek. The mental gymnastics they make is what makes it fun.

>she will hit it offstream

>>18813618
They probably started making the cover around at the same time but different mixer/illustrator/animator have different working speed.

>>18813618
I don't think Polka cares that much about the views her songs get. I think she cares more about keeping up her pace of shitting out cover songs on a weekly basis. Seriously, she is a fucking machine.

>>18813661
>He's playing "There Is No Game"
Well, there's your problem.

>>18813710
Dumb fucking indog wtf are you doing, it's been so long since the last 1 million stream and you go and ruin it

>>18813622
I don't think they think like that at all. Doing something different from time to time helps to keep your main content fresh.
I mean have you seen Nijisanji streams? All do they is play Apex. A season similar to the previous one would completely tank all their views. It's not healthy to be a one-trick pony in the long run.

>>18813796
She will likely make an English Karaoke as celebration for that

https://youtu.be/4nuIrktCJHc

Another Council animation ftom this 9AM dude again. He is Korean btw.

One of my most fervent wishes is that
>Tanigo buys out Sora's contract from whatever shitty label she's currently contracted to
She'll release a new orisong and NOBODY WILL KNOW because, for some reason, I think promoting it is off limits for Hololive somehow.

This and
> WTF IS WITH THIS "SKIRT PHYSICS" FOR SORA?
Damn girl, cool off with the starch! Let some legs out!

>>18813877
Do you have the link of that one myth clip where Ina was sleeping, and kiara, ame and gura were doodling on her forehead. The tits, ass, personality one. That was so good.

>>18813565
Sana is literally beneath peoples notice at this point. She's been mentally written off.

>>18813877
Rrat owned the whole Korean market. at least Council contributed something

>>18813997
Much like the lesson they learned with permissions, there's a reason they've avoided having any Holomem sign on to a label after Sora did.