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>>18849943

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>> No.19019733

>>19019644
didnt need to hear her cry today but it was a grim necessity

>> No.19021685

>>19019733
I don’t think any of us wanted to hear that, but it’s understandable for her to be sad and unmotivated. It’s good that she felt she could show some of her emotions on stream and acknowledges that she is willing to come back stronger after some time. Crying heals wounded hearts.

>> No.19021909

>>19019733
I wouldn't call it a necessity either, but whatever.

>> No.19023858

I don’t want her to quit over this bros

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>> No.19027774

>>18880722
it's similar to how she uses "tits" instead of "boobs". I don't think she realizes that's the more aggressive word.

>> No.19028625

I have a crippling fetish for crying girls but Senchou just broke my heart

>> No.19028743

Noel is going to stream Elden Ring later in the day, it seems that Cover finally got the permissions to stream From Software games, which means that Senchou's Dark Souls 3 reps could be restored as public, it's at least a possible good news among so much shit that is happening this day.

>> No.19029009

>>19028743
I don't think so, the restrictions they gave for fromsoftware games are quite strict, most prominently they don't allow clips or SCs, so I don't think it will retroactively apply to her old games.

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Hang in there Senchou

>> No.19029257

>>19029009
>don't allow clips
How can they even stop this? That's not a decision the girls get to make.

>> No.19029291

>>19029257
you remember momotetsu? That had the same restriction and look, there are no clips of it.

>> No.19029300

>>19029257
Same way momotetsu didn't allow clips. They just say they're not allowed and strike anyone that makes clips.

>> No.19029361

>>19019644
Bros. I am deeply worried of who the Rushia fiasco would affect Senshou. I don't want her to be sad.

>> No.19029406

>>19029361
No one wants her to be sad, but anon, she's sad as fuck right now. She was pretty much the closest to Rushia of anyone.

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Man it feels fucked up how just a few days ago Senchou was happy, euphoric and totally refreshed after the fan event and now this must have hit her like a bucket of cold water, it was the first time in several months that I could finally see the light at the end of the tunnel and now back to darkness, fucking hell, before I didn't blame Rushia for her screw up but now seeing the consequences I'm starting to develop hatred towards her, fucking lying backstabbing bitch, she deserved what she got.

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>>19030981
All I want is to hear Marine's laugh right now...

>> No.19033755

>>19030981
I don't blame you. Rushia literally jeopardized her genmate's, and other coworkers, careers, personal lives and safety by doing what she did. I fucking hate her for putting all the girls through this, and most of all her genmates. I can understand why Flare seems pissed. This is completely unforgivable. I'm glad she's gone.

Sorry, but I haven't really vented yet and it all just kinda came out at once after reading your post. I won't say anything more on this. I just...want to hear Marine talk happily and for her to be happy. I don't feel like that's a lot to ask for. Fuck.

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>>19033755
I feel a pretty similar way. I don't respect how Rushia conducted herself, she could have seriously harmed Cover's reputation. I understand that the girls (specifically Gen 3) can simultaneously feel upset that a coworker betrayed them but also sad because they lost a friend

>> No.19036242

>>19033755
Yeah, the day the Yab happened, I honestly gave Rushia the benefit of the doubt and even if its true that she had a boyfriend, I didn't see it as a big of a problem, and yeah right we all want our oshi to be pure and everything but come on its retarded to think that all talents have not been or are in a relationship while they are vtubers, but after this sewer was uncovered and the evidence is quite damning I can say that she deserves everything that is happening to her and what makes me angry is the ripple effect that this whole incident is generating and how its affecting everyone not only in hololive but in the entire vtubing industry, especially the people closest to her like Marine, and the most reprehensible thing of all is that without remorse she sold the people close to her, to save her own ass.
I repeat, Now I have nothing but contempt for her, fuck you Rushia I hope no one on Hololive speaks to you again, you crazy bitch.

>> No.19040304

I LOVE THIS BABA SO MUCH

>> No.19041716

I HEARD HER CRY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I NEED TO PROTECT HER I NEED TO PROTECT HER I NEED TO PROTECT HER I NEED TO PROTECT HER I NEED TO PROTECT HER

>> No.19043989

>>19036242
Honestly I kinda know where you're coming from but as someone who got introduced to senchou through Rushia I can't say I share them.
I just wish she wasn't an idiot so this entire thing didn't have to happen

>> No.19044994

>>19043989
Judging by what Marine said on the morning stream, it seems they tried to reason with her after the incident and even tried to put their hands in the fire for her and yet the crazy bitch ignored them and made the most retarded move a celebrity could make: going to a dramanigger for help and the worst part is that the faggot she considered a friend also threw her under the bus.
This whole mess could have been easily avoided if she had just shut up and let the management sort it out but noooo, she preferred to be the menhera whore everyone knows and fuck up the situation even more.
Poor Marine doesn't deserve to be dragged into this bullshit first hand and at the worst possible time when her health still isn't the best and her emotional stress hasn't been very stable either.

>> No.19045263

>>19044994
Which morning stream are you talking about anonchama, did I miss a membership stream?

>> No.19045356

>>19045263
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppOu2U4SByQ
It was on Pekora channel

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Feel better soon Marine

>> No.19049181

>>19036242
>even if its true that she had a boyfriend, I didn't see it as a big of a problem, and yeah right we all want our oshi to be pure and everything but come on its retarded to think that all talents have not been or are in a relationship while they are vtubers
The point is that not everybody thinks like this, neither Fandead or Rushia. She did what she thought she had to to preserve a future for herself where she can continue to have the same relationship with her audience that she did before.

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With Rushia behaving noticeably more distant from Senchou in the last year it makes me doubt that they were ever close friends at best they were friendly co-workers, but honestly which holos can we say are really legitimate Marine friends?Kanata, Noel, Mel, ?

>> No.19051091

>>19049973
It's not directly involved with Marine, but I did enjoy this little bit
https://youtu.be/tQ8e6mYfR2w

>> No.19051799

>>19051091
It's a funny moment, maybe Marine could finally find solace in holoX in the post Rushia era as she seems to be interested in interacting more with Sakamata and Lui.

>> No.19053980

SHE ONLY SHOULD CRY TEARS OF JOY WHEN I BERRY MY COCK IN HER ASS REACHING PARTS SHE CAN ONLY DREAM OF!!!
FUCK RUSHIA DRAMA

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>>18811049
she has talked about why she likes it a few times. here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjWogZ-fyD4
also, isn't arguably pretty clear why?

>> No.19054228

>>19049973
Rushia wasn't particularly close to others in general, but still, Marine was probably the closest thing to a friend to her. Marine is the type who cares about even distant friends. They are all legitimate to her.

>> No.19054278

>>18811049
she has talked about why she likes it a few times. here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjWogZ-fyD4 [Embed]
also, isn't it arguably pretty clear why?

>> No.19054341

Marine deserves good friends, she deserves to be given back everything she gives them, Marine gives a lot and receives things like this.
My poor pirate with a heart of gold. I need to protect.

>> No.19055538

>>18807142
>>18807196
>>18807331
>>18807052
given the nature of this medium, the audience is gonna be majority male, but while Marine's not at the top (I dunno, Towa? Flare?), she's not towards the bottom, either.

>> No.19056759

>>19049973
This. I feel like Pekora might be the closest Marine has to a friend within Hololive, but she’s probably not even that close to her. I guess she has a few friends outside of Hololive to hang out with.

>> No.19061331

>>19056759
Anon she's pretty close to Fubuki too, not to mention Kanata and Shion and Noel

>> No.19062833

>>19056759
I've seen a lot of people say they dislike Pekora for "ghosting" other members and not collabing that much (this doesn't make me think less of her because we're all different), but it's pretty obvious that even if they rarely collab Marine and Pekora get along very well. Whenever they do collab they clearly have a lot of fun, not to mention it's always a gold mine of comedic moments and Marine laughing tons. I really love how Pekora makes Marine laugh so much.
That's why I think, even if Senchou's health isn't at its best right now, now would be the perfect time for that PekoMari off-collab. I think it would help her a lot emotionally.

>> No.19062966

New song was really nice.

>> No.19063531

Do you guys think that if Rushia does well in her new life it might give Marine the idea to graduate and try to become an indie too?

>> No.19064265

>>19063531
If anyone would of put an idea like that in Marine's head it would have been Coco

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>>19062833
Yeah, Pekora's kind of an odd one. She's introverted to the point of coming off as anti-social but that's just kind of the way she is. She's talked about how she likes to keep her relationships "not too close or too far" and prefers just having fun with people she likes over getting into "we'll be together forever!" attitudes. But yeah, senchou and the autistic rabbit have a really nice dynamic that seems to work well for both of them.

>> No.19067784

https://youtu.be/J3aaiUlJM-Y

>> No.19068007

after the fan meet, I would've predicted two more regular streams this February, but now I'm gonna give the more conservative prediction of "one member stream".

>> No.19068318

>>19029406
is there anyone else that collabbed with Rushia more? Marine might legitimately be Rushia's number 1 by hours

>> No.19068425

>runs away to Noel's house instead of streaming
Why is she like this?

>> No.19068478

>>19068425
she's not streaming much lately, I dunno if you've heard the news but she has nodules in her throat that mean she has to be careful about how much she uses her voice

>> No.19068511

>>19068478
why is she visiting other Holos then?

>> No.19068633

>>19068511
because she's sad and wants to be around friends because it makes her feel better than wallowing in her sadness alone

>> No.19068744

>>19068511
Gee I dunno anon, it might have something to do with her generation having just lost a member and she's sad about it and would rather not be alone? It's not fucking rocket science.

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I always had the perception that Marine, despite her cheerful and carefree attitude, was the most emotional member of the 3rd generation and this incident basically confirms it.
My Senchou doesn't deserve to be in this situation given how sensitive she is on the inside, I would like to hug her affectionately just to make her feel better.

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>> No.19069750

>>19069458
Am i remembering this wrong or is this the first time we've heard her cry.

>> No.19069813

>>19069750
we've heard her cry before

there was one stream she was crying in that she never released the vod for but when her manager was unprivating vods after the apocalypse it got briefly unprivated for about 3 hours, so if you were around either of those times you would have seen it, as an example

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>> No.19070990

>>19069750
She also cried relatively recently when she met that seiyuu she admires and FBK was the one who arranged for them to meet. But that's different since she was crying from happiness, yesterday is the first time I heard her crying from sadness, not even in the time when Coco was graduating I heard her so sad, this really affected her.

>> No.19071112

>>19069813
I have also heard of this VOD but never had the chance to see it, what was the VOD about? And does anyone know why she was crying?

>> No.19072507

>>19068511
Why are anons all such soulless bug people? It's way too common to see brain dead posts like this

>> No.19073158

>>19069750
She had a membership stream around when pekora had her breakdown where she cried. Or was it shortly before coco's graduation announcement? Anyway it was quite a while ago

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>> No.19074689

>>19072507
it's literally just the schizo

>> No.19075135

>>19071112
she was mostly just tired, I think

you should be able to find the tweet where she explains how it got unprivated and why she had it private and reprivated it somewhere

>> No.19076344

What is this general, damn. Are these absolute disgusting posts about Rushia just one schizo or is this how the general is.

>> No.19076429

>>19076344
one schizo

>> No.19076449

>>19068007
More like no stream

>> No.19077204

>>19076429
And I thought my oshis general had it bad...

>> No.19078479

>>19045356
why did you call it a morning stream anon? it was in the evening

>> No.19078623

>>19078479
Marine had probably only just woken up

>> No.19078631

>>19074689
I'll admit: one of the posts last thread wasn't him, but me.

>> No.19078673

>>19078623
you dont know that and based on her tweets she wakes up in the morning

>> No.19078692

>>19078673
her schedule is pretty inconsistent

>> No.19078827

>>19078479
Morning in my time zone
T.burger

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>> No.19081970

>>19068425
Did Noel say Senchou visited her on Twitter? I don’t remember Senchou talking about it on her Twitter.

>> No.19082229

>>19081970
she said it on stream

>> No.19085491

>>19068425
Are you implying that if you had a friend with giant tits you wouldn't want to run to her house as much as you can?

>> No.19085632

>>19085491
These last couple of weeks have confirmed that there are no real friends in hololive, only some nice play pretend for the camera. If you still believe there are any real friends among the holos I feel for you.

>> No.19085843

>>19085632
they can be friends and not have it be besties forever

not all friendships are die for each other levels of devotion, you can just have someone you like to talk and spend time with

>> No.19086061

>>19085843
anon, it's all about putting up a show to fit in. Hololive without it's "friendships" can drop half of the talent since they aren't entertaining or talented to survive on that talent outside of said friendships. It's all a fine ruse to keep their jobs and in turn income.

>> No.19086592

>>19086061
I mean it would be dumb to say it's wholly a ruse, just because they play it up it on camera doesn't mean they don't sometimes spend time with each other and enjoy it

some friendships are more "business" than others, Marine and Fubuki are very open about the fact that they're for the most part merely friendly business partners, and lots of other relationships within hololive don't even reach that level, but that doesn't mean they all hate each other

>> No.19086772

>>19086592
This. I do think Senchou is good friends with Noel to go sleep at her house.

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It hasn't been a week and already I miss her so much anons, I want to see Senchou happy and full of energy again, I can't feel at ease knowing that she must be feeling like shit right now.

>> No.19090218

>>19090042
It must be really rough and shocking having to cut ties with someone you thought was a better person.

>> No.19090587

>>19090218
I mean Marine said she did and said everything she possibly could to save Rushia's job so they could stay together and continue to be Holo 3rd gen together, Cover just ignored her and fired her anyway

it's not like Marine cut ties, ties were forcibly cut by Cover

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>> No.19090708

>>19090587
They couldn't have possibly saved Rushia. Have you seen what she said? It's seriously bad.

>> No.19090851

>>19090708
that's besides the point, the point is that Marine said she did everything she could to try and save her

>> No.19090947

>>19090851
Sometimes not even your best is enough.

>> No.19091036

>>19090851
Yeah but it's not Cover's fault she has to cut ties to Rushia, who was malicious and would rather see everyone in hololive suffer as a result of this.

>> No.19091421

>>19091036
I interepreted what Ru said as being in reference to people badmouthing her and making shit up about her

>> No.19091591

>>19091421
It doesn't matter what she said. She sent this to a drama channel and said to leak it if she doesn't make it. That's malicious.

>> No.19091649

>>19090947
Marine is such a good person that it even hurts her, anyone who considers themselves her friend should be grateful to have her in their lives.

>> No.19091900

>>19091591
I mean it does matter, what if she said "nah not telling you anything"

>> No.19092246

>>19091900
The starting point here is that she gave out information. Making a smartass point doesn't do anything.

>> No.19092480

>>19092246
I mean there are plenty of benign things she could have said, like "I really enjoyed my job at hololive" or "I really hope my fans are okay", the point is that the actual content of the information matters

>> No.19092573

>>19092480
Stop acting like you're making some amazing point here.
>I interepreted what Ru said as being in reference to people badmouthing her and making shit up about her
This is irrelevant. She left fucking dirt and said "If I'm fired LEAK IT".

>> No.19092727

>>19092246
It matters whether it's actually dirt

>> No.19092816

>>19092727
So if she just lied, that's fine?

>> No.19092872

>>19092816
about what

>> No.19092939

moshi moshi marine thread doko?

>> No.19092977

>>19092872
About what she said. Did you not see it? Why even argue when it's all out there now.

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>>19092939
Here's to hoping we all move past the autism sooner than later

>> No.19093083

>>19092977
about what who said about what? Marine still tried to save her and cover still ignored her and fired her anyway

>> No.19093129

>>19093083
Because she was a shit person that wanted to see them burn.

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>>19093052
i hope too m8

>> No.19094127

ahoy

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wonder what marine and noel did together

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>> No.19099028

>>19093083
>>19093129
Cover made a call to enforce that nobody, and underlining, NOBODY is above the contract

there would be nobody else left if they start picking favorites.

>> No.19099386

>>19099028
>>19099028
there were other forms of reprimands etc that they could have gone for, depending on the severity of what she did

Marine and co. might have been alluding to asking for punishment rather than termination along with whatever else they tried

I would guess if they could feel confident that Ru wouldn't engage in this kind of stuff again they might have gone for it too. Unfortunately I get the feeling they didn't trust her anymore.

>> No.19100791

>>19099386
>I get the feeling they didn't trust her anymore
no shit, they need to scan and comb every social media for potential leaks and send takedown notices 24/7 while simultaneously sending lawyer to contact everyone she ever contacted with trough discord over the ~3years
maybe relocate a good number of talents(this is the pain-in-the-arse part, because good apartments are rare in big cities), maybe some family members too in the mix

and the list goes on and on and on.

oh btw also all this while preparing for their biggest Live event in the company history
So yea I understand if someone wants to be mad at her...

>> No.19101067

>>19099386
>Unfortunately I get the feeling they didn't trust her anymore.
Understandably so. We have no way of knowing and will never know what exactly was leaked but Korekore clearly had access to her work discord and confidential information, which is a massive breach of contract and NDA. There was no way they were going to keep someone as untrustworthy as her around, and any other company would have done the same.
Still a shame. I used to like Rushia but all of this is just...yeah.

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And given the severity of this case, talents probably aren't even legally allowed to contact Ru because of the pending lawsuit
So, I can understand that Senchou might be upset if they were legit friends, but this is way beyond her at this poit

>> No.19101925

>>19101640
I imagine Cover is trying to avoid a lawsuit as the information would be public. If Rushia shuts up now she'll likely be fine in that regard.

>> No.19102090

>>19101925
Court can handle cases "behind closed doors" if there's a reason to protect either party's identity.
Mostly used in child molestation cases, where being accused would already ruin someone's reputation

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>>19101640
I mean it's exactly as she said, it reached a point where it was out of her hands

she did what she could but it got bigger than anything Marine could do anything about

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>>19102440
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>> No.19109290

>>19101640
Christ, that serious huh?

>> No.19109413

>>19096222
Most likely just had a serious heart to heart about the whole situation, had a very prolonged mutual cry, and then fall asleep. Noel watching her was a, "What can I do to make this situattion/her life better" kind of thing

>> No.19110771

>>19109290
On the date of her termination, Bakatare trio had a stream and pretty much didn't even flinch. If people like FBK and crybaby Watame don't care you know its bad.

>> No.19111365

>>19110771
Rushia was never close to any of them, so I'm not surprised that it didn't affect them and adding that according to the rumors what she did was despicable they probably felt it was only right that she was fired from the company.
Plus if you think about it FBK is like the antithesis of everything Rushia was, Rushia was selling the GFE very hard and FBK has always presented herself as a friend and entertainer first, FBK probably thought that pushing the GFE so hard was a bad idea to begin with.

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