/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

kindred don't exist on this board so I've given myself permission to ignore your post
unless you're actually a cute Chinese OL, in which case please post your feet

>>19608956
>What do we do?
Stop using discord while streaming or only use it on your phone

Get fucked to oblivion nijiniggers
Your company and your talents are toxic children

>>19608956
Blame petra for being incompetent

>>19608956
That 2nd guy speak facts. Entertainment industry rely HEAVILY in cooperation and collabs. This will really cripple and put nijiEN in tough position moving forward

>>19608956
>Don't shit talk on company lines
LMFAO.
This person has clearly never worked in the industry before.
My company slack channels are full of this shit.

>>19608956
Ahh yes. Can you hear it nipplesanji? The inevitable announcement?

>>19608956
What you do is not alt+tab while livestreaming.

>>19608956
>Voxbros
Oh stfu there is only voxsisters

We should spam those niggers in chat ngl

>>19608956
I honestly don't have a huge problem with this. Every company I've worked for we shit talk our competitors. Sometimes in their faces when we're at conventions.

>>19608956
>reddit thread

>>19608956
Based! Now we need to go on twitter

>>19609301
>>19609432
depends on the industry. my company specifically instructs us not to say certain things about other companies since it may have legal implications during information discovery

Petra termination incoming

>>19609301
um... there are companies that strictly forbid such things anon

>>19609432
Uhh yah, sure privately go for it but it's different when exposed you idiot
Especially for an entertainment to post
>Hololive tech in shambles
Dude is like a walking 4chan poster
Shit talk all ya want but when it's exposed is that part you never want

>>19609534
I work in tech. Happens more in the startups I've worked at. Though happens in huge public companies too.

>>19609747
It's all contextual. Elon shit talks GM/Ford all the time for example for everyone to see.

>>19608956
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/t75n3b/nijien_accidentally_leaked_discord_messages_of/

ACCELERATE another WAVE of DEFLECTORS

>using reddit

>>19609817
>Anon thinks industries all work the same
Are you retarded?

>>19610087
>>using reddit

>>19608956
How can they use their personal accounts when
they aren't friends

>>19610125
I don't but it's not true at all for the entertainment industry. I can give you an easy example: diss tracks. They're popular.

>>19608956
Time to hunt the samefag on our threads. It's a golden chance for holobronies

>>19610170

The post on /r/virtualyoutubers is much bigger.

>>19608956
More casual hololive fans are all for unity, collabs with everyone and buying condoms for their boyfriends but I've noticed after that veibitch video spreaded even this normies were in rage and changed their tune to the point that particular collab got cancelled, it's rare but I'm always happy to see it. Holopride world wide.

>>19610197
but not when you pretend to be for "unity" all the time on twitter, its not bad to shit talk but double talk is despicable.

>>19608956
You can learn. Next time don't pay posters on social media to spam
>it's fake
It didn't work.

>>19609432
>Boy, our males are doing really well. They sure missed out because of their emphasis on being idols
>I'm glad you're with us Shu.
>shittalking
In what fucking world is any of this even remotely shittalking? It's not even banter, it's fucking nothing.

>>19610534
We've yet to see the fallout. If people actually care then sure, but I have a feeling the general audience won't really give a shit.

>>19610534
>but not when you pretend to be for "unity" all the time on twitter, its not bad to shit talk but double talk is despicable

>>19608956
So this is why Mori knows Niji talk shit about her and unfollow them all. Kek. So much for unity

NIJISANJI talents just as shitty as their fanbase.

>>19608956
this is literally nothing but people will still make a big deal out of it and use it as an excuse to shit talk each other as if they didn't do it before already

>>19610604
Well it's up to interpretation whether this counts as shit talking. In my opinion anything negative can be classified as shit talking. Like if I said "you're a dummy poo poo faggot", pretty mild, but it can be classified as shit talking.

>>19608956
>Posted on hololive reddit
of course.

>>19608956
You're not a voxbro, or a nijinigger, not even certain you're a holobrony. Definitely a dramafag though.

>>19608956
>Don't shit talk companies
What they said can hardly be considered shit talk.

>>19610579
They tried really really hard to kill it by saying it was fake then they tried burying it with spam and then they started downplaying the leak when it spread everywhere. ChineseMaple and the rest of the r/virtualyoutubers mods didn’t hesitate to shutdown the reddit threads until they couldn’t contain it anymore.

Shit talk competitors all you want it’s fine. But make sure it doesn’t go public. These retards deserve what gonna come to them because of their stupidity.

so all the garbage is coming from reddit afterall eh?

I hope NijiEN doesn't get collab banned from Hololive because of this...

>>19611131
I mean it's 100% real when the leak came from a timestamp on a vod that was privated so nobody had any way to confirm it outside a single questionable video.
And nobody mentioned a thing about it at all during the stream itself when people could have gotten the vod before it was privated.
Absolute no suspiciousness to it at all.

>>19611327
I hope they do
Fuck nijitrash, really hope this leads to blocks lasting forever

>>19611113
>Voxbro

>>19611561
>petra viewers on 4chan
Theyre not even in the NijiEN general, newfriend.

>>19609252
Hololive doesn't really want to work with many EN vtubers anyways. What's more important is the response by indies and small corpos. Realistically none of them have any reason to block Niji since it's not like Hololive would show them any favor, but who knows?

>>19611561
Is this sarcasm? I can't tell. The leak was less than half a second so of course not much people going to talk about it live. If there's nothing to hide then why did they private the vod? It would be good to fact check and see of course it is fake. Another screenshot of the discord was leaked also and the user list of the server adds up.

>>19611327
They will. And they deserve it.

Recruit Mori to our side, she will save us all.

>>19611561

>>19608956
>actually linking reddit
how the fuck is this nigger not banned yet?

>>19612041
What am I looking at? This isn't an ogey face.

>>19608956
>talking about industry competition and speculation is shittalk now
Tell me you've never worked in your life without telling me you've never worked in your life. This happens every few seconds in wall street

>>19612074
Welcome to /r/hololive

>>19612125
proof that the image wasn't edited

>>19608956
Nipplesanji imitating Hololive again this time with a discord leak.

>>19611327
Collab banned by management or not, would a hololive talent want to collab with them after seeing shit like this?

>be a hololive talent
>like the talents in nijiEN so every now and then reply to their tweets to break the ice
>find out that they are talking shit about you or your coworkers behind the scenes saying you are failures by not meeting number expectations
If i was in HoloEN it would be a big turn off.

>>19608956
We’re gonna realize that men are essentially uncancellable by their female fans.
Women, especially SEA and Chinese women, will defend their idols to the bitter death. This is an actual nothingburger to them. Vox’s finances will not be affected.
Can’t say the same for the girls, well mostly Finana since she was the only female talking shit.

>>19612338
I hope nobody tells them what the rest of the industry thinks of them.

>>19612455
No one cares about 2views' opinions

>>19608956
Are you faggots telling me you've never shittalked about a direct competitor with your coworkers before?

>>19612915
Shame they were retarded enough to get caught while holding jobs where good will and public perception matters.

>>19612915
I do. Hell, I even shit talk about upper management. But I don't blast it on a public forum with my name while also knowing that my coworkers are retarded and would leak what I said by accident

>>19608956
That second comment... Very easy to be on a high horse as an outsider when this kind of thing is really not that uncommon.
It's also a private DM that someone leaked like an idiot and it wasn't talking about anyone IN Nijisanji.
No rules have been broken. I'm not defending what they said and the two faced nature is definitely a whole other discussion.
But he talks as if everyone must be holier than thou and must always be in harmony with each other... Clearly has never had a job before.

Show business is ugly.

>>19612915
The difference is that I don't do it in such a manner where it'd be traced back to me

>>19613123
it's nice that it showed how they really are, since it seemed like nijiENiggers believed their twitter pics were accurate representations of them

>>19613301
Thing is though that it's a private DM. Pretty much no one was going to leak that intentionally.
Unfortunately, Millie was fucking stupid and didn't learn anything from the Rushia yab.
For fuck's sake. This is your job. I was a small time 2view streamer years ago and was smart enough to know how streamer mode is.
It literally prompts you to enable it. You're either dumb as fuck or you do that on purpose at this point.

>>19609111
This. Shift all blame on one person. Who did no shit talking by the way

And save 6 or so other guilty members

>>19608956
>Industry that thrives on cooperation
>Hololive ran a big event on every Niji debut so they wouldn't see the light of day, even forcing Gura to do an unscheduled stream one time
>Forcibly cancel collabs between members
> Post your audition right after they posted theirs

From the days Lazulight struggled to get 2k views HoloEN viewed them as bitter rivals and avoided then like a plague.
Nice cooperation you're having
Redditors are truly delusional

I hope r/holo bans the word nijisanji in the sub

>>19613778
Please understand, redditors HAVE to moralfag and act like everyone is kind to each other.

>>Industry that thrives on cooperation
>>Hololive ran a big event on every Niji debut so they wouldn't see the light of day, even forcing Gura to do an unscheduled stream one time
>>Forcibly cancel collabs between members
>> Post your audition right after they posted theirs
>From the days Lazulight struggled to get 2k views HoloEN viewed them as bitter rivals and avoided then like a plague.
>Nice cooperation you're having
>Redditors are truly delusional

NIJIS ARE CANCELING THEIR STREAMS
THE PINGUIN GIRL, SHU, MYSTA AND SELEN ALL REMOVED THEIR FRAMES KEK

>>19613778
han shot first!

>>19613863
They can't even do moralfagging right. They were cuddling Nene when she was selling traced art and would continue to do so if it weren't for some art account on twitter exposing her. They would never show the same open-mindedness if someone else was caught doing it

>>19613778
Yeah they've been treating NijiEN like Lepers long before this but of course you'll see Hologaiji treat this as some sort of prescience from the great Omegatranny/YAGOO or some shit

>>19613902
WHOLE BRANCH WIPE OUT

ITS OVER NIJIKEKS

>>19613933
>They can't even do moralfagging right. They were cuddling Nene when she was selling traced art and would continue to do so if it weren't for some art account on twitter exposing her. They would never show the same open-mindedness if someone else was caught doing it

>>19608956
>holoEN literallly never collabed with nijiEN before
>NOOOOO, DON'T SHIT TALK US, THIS IS ALL ABOUT COOPERATION AND COLLABORATION
nigger what, vox's fanbase are chinese and nip women, what the fuck do they have to do with holofags.

>>19613422
My friend.
I can guarantee you that HoloEN DMs aren't much better.
This shit happens in nearly every company.

>>19613778
Yea that's the weird thing. If cover is blocking me from collabing with its talent why wouldn't I be upset about that?

>>19614039
FIVE STAGES OF COPE
DENIAL
>it's fake, it's an edit, it didn't happen!
ANGER
>Holobronies making drama out of a nothing burger again, pathetic!
BARGANING
>It's not shit talking, it's literally the truth!
DEFLECTION
>but the viewership, the revenue, the l2d, the 3D! Holos must shit talk on Niji behind their backs too!
ACCEPTANCE
>it's totally normal for them to shit talk Holos, nothing to see here...

Nijikeks on full damage control kek

>>19614079
swear ive read those exact posts on /vt/

>>19614146
You probably have, copium is universal on the web

>>19613778
I guess it's more the mask being pulled back. This shit is propped up mainly by appearances and the assumption that it's a community when in reality HoloEN was streaming over NijiEN events and have mostly separated themselves from the EN vtubing circle. On a surface level you'd like to think everyone likes each other, but if you look past that you're left wondering why people are just supposed to pretend like they like a group that openly doesn't care about them.

>>19614072
I work for companies in this industry for a living for nearly a decade and see this shit happen nearly every day.
When you get a job or go over the age of 21 anon, maybe you'll understand how business works.
Especially something as viscous as the the entertainment industry.

>tfw woke up to virtual hood politics

somebody save Pomu

>>19613902
>>19613946
maybe management going over the yab as a en group thing

>>19614277
she wants an all out war
she's a lost cause

>>19614242
If you worked in the entertainment industry, then you should be aware that while this may commonly happen, the leaking of this kind of talk always leads to bad press. Whether it be celebrities or streamers, when shit talking reaches the public, there is always controversy.

>>19614072
How is it not normal to make fun of Cover scrambling to catch up?

>>19614359
>>19614242
But for the talent to do that and have it reach the public is not good optics. Which is why there is drama. You Nijiniggers are some of the most intentionally obtuse people I've ever seen.

>>19614441
Buddy I watched threads of people defending Nene, both sides of this corpo dogfight are retarded

>>19614079
>where is your evidence for this besides your obviously biased feelings toward hololive
says this whiling making shit up about hololive with no evidence

nijinigs are everywhere it seems

>>19614039
i only watch nijijp, but not even holoENiggers are as delusional as you people
it's just nice you had a reality check

>>19614355
Yes, i'm well aware. Hence why Millie is a fucking idiot for not enabling streamer mode and Nijisanji are fucking idiotic for not making it well known to enable it across the whole company especially right after the Rushia and Lauren yab.

>>19614441
I'm not on either side you fucking peanut. I said earlier in this thread that I'm not defending what they said and the two faced nature of it.
But you must be on some form of crack if you think this isn't happening in HoloEN or ESPECIALLY Vshojo DMs with how catty they are.
This is business. They might be friends in the same company but that can't be said for opposing companies.

>Pomu didnt even talk shit to anyone but will be gutted just of being guilty by association
>Mysta just wanted to talk anywhere but couldn't because of depression and paranoia that his antis are stalking him
>Petra will be killed just because she leaked it even though it was Millies setup
How do we save them?

im going to message hero hei to cover this now, possible that drama channel as well, eyed something

>>19614530
>i only watch nijijp,
Then go back.

>>19608956
that's all? they don't even say anything that bad, mostly just facts, why does anyone care?

>>19614757
>But you must be on some form of crack if you think this isn't happening in HoloEN or ESPECIALLY Vshojo DMs with how catty they are.
Anon, you need to work on your reading comprehension. Read my post again and tell me where I said that. The bad part is that it reaches the public and makes them look bad. Your response has nothing to do with what I said at all.

>>19614216
Based Gura, astroturfing nijiEN events

>>19614079
Holy hell nijis are the scum of the earth.

>>19614797
Things aside, Mystia really got the short end of the stick here. She was just being worried and paranoid, and her message pops up in a yab moment. It’s the worst possible scenario for her.

>>19614840
Message every EN drama channel

Also this dude
https://twitter.com/narukami_sabaki

>>19608956
>shinobihost tranny trying that retarded damage control "f-fake"
kek

>>19614079
these posts are actually disgusting, Jesus think twice before posting stuff that will only make yourself look bad

>>19615019
Narukami have beef with them , best story to give him an ammo too.

>>19614079
>>19614146
Everytime I see this line of thinking it always makes me wonder if Niji's don't remember that thry were the big.company who fell. Hololive are the innovative upstart who overtook them. Very unlikely they'll ever be on top again.

https://may.2chan.net/b/res/944711847.htm

>>19615019
will do

>>19614079
please update the list >>14605174

>>19608956
>Directly linking to reddit
>no one calling it out.
I hate /pol/ for what they did to this site.

>>19615637

>i thought this was a nipple thread

>>19614530
>NijiJP
Even worse, you're the fanbase that cultivated the Elitism fanbase that is Nijisanji

>>19608956
I legit fail to comprehend how fucking stupid can you be to do that........

>>19615970
/vt/ is about 90% reddit and twitter refugees that come here whenever they wanna call someone a nigger or rratpost and can't do it on those sites without getting banned. It shouldn't surprise you that kind of shit isn't noticed.

>>19609301
If that's true, then your company needs to get its shit together
I work in government and early on it is drilled into you that anything and EVERYTHING can be read by the public through a FOIA request

>>19615970
never forget

Maybe years on 4chan has desensitized me, but the messages in the leak were just speculating on the new recruit drive. its hardly shit talking. I would barely even consider it light banter.

>>19609432
All the focused on corpo vs corpo stuff is totally fair game, it's the stuff about the new gen being unsuccessful that really shits things up here. Unfortunate.

>>19613778
im actually curious now as to what the other corpos think of hololive en

>>19609817
The difference is those don't have to work together. And if you derive acceptable behaviour from Elon Musk of all people there are just no meds strong enough to fix you, sorry

>nijisanji talents are just as toxic as their fanbase
Gee, who would've thought? Go fuck yourselfs nijiniggers. You will NEVER live this one down.

>>19617807
This. I finally got to read what was being talked about. Fulgur was really the only one with a hot take, but the worst it got personally was concluding that Hololive seemed scared.

Really /vt/ is not to be trusted with their take of offense on anything, especially on the behalf of others. This board is a toxic swamp filled with bipolar obsessives, dramatic gossips, and trolls playing up both personas to stir shit up because 4chan flame wars are funny. Outside generals, they go at each other's throats way worse and they really just want to project those toxic attitudes onto the vtuber groups they claim to admire.

In that way /vt/ has really become like normie celebrity gossips. They do this exact same shit, using limited information to make to making grand conclusions and taking great offenses on behalf of celebrities. Human nature always finds its way around, I guess.

>>19609111
ofcourse retard, blame one to save the other

>>19613776
>>19609111
It was Millies setup and her stream. And that whore was shittalking in that channel DURING the collab

well nijiniggers gon' nig

>shit talked why holo started starsEN
>shit talked holo tech support
>shit talked coverHR why they didnt hire him: The Ironman of Durgasoft
>numberfag how your kpopfaggotry is on the same levels with HoloJP
>shit on holocouncil for imaginary flooping

>>19620442
>for imaginary flooping

>>19620528
cope, nipple.

Is this swearing? They're just analysing and talking about the current situation as you see it. I'm smiling at the feeling of Blanche trying to improve against Holo as a whole.
Shady is when management and CEOs spread sarcasm on Twitter, or when libs spread rumours and then cloud over with a silent correction.

>>19614216
I remember the long awaited Ame Gura podcast got rescheduled specifically to overlap with Lazulight debut.

I would have been salty as fuck since then. It was an open declaration of war

>>19620846
Thanks for proving HoloEN lives in your head rent free Finana, bet you picked a fish model because you cunt stinks like one.

>>19620918
And Niji lives in Hololive's head otherwise they wouldn't switch stream times to combat them.

>>19611327
NijiEN has already been banned since the Selen/Ollie collab fell through

>>19620442
Council flopped anon. 2/5 members almost never stream. This is made more egregious by the fact 2 of the more consistent streamers are in University and have legitimate obligations to fulfill yet will move heaven and earth to try and stream and profusely apologize if they can't. It is a problem when the biggest positive NijiEN shitposters point out is "Our streamers actually stream. Unlike Council."

What interests me is how Hololive EN will retaliate. Myth loves their kouhais and I could see them going out of their way to send a message to Nijisanji.

>>19621153
If council is a flop what is Finana?

>>19621134
Fell through?

>>19621192
Dropped on the deck and flopping like a fish

>>19621110
You don't stay on top allowing every upstart to have their way. You need to remind them that you are in charge.

>>19621192
Not Hololive

>>19614847
go back where? even the niji thread on /jp/ is full of ENiggers like you

>>19608956
>Getting a lot of attention on twitter and on reddit it got 100+ comments in a few minutes, they even had to lock the thread

>>19621192
She has no NijiEN gen 1 to compare to so successful.

>>19621415
Oh my gosh Becky did you hear what Nijisanji said?!?

>>19608956
I looked up the leak and that's it? That's literally fucking nothing.
>Council was less successful than Myth
Objective fact.
>Luxiem was more successful than expected
Objective fact.
>Hololive have IT problems
Objective fact.
>Shu wanted to join hololive first
Wow so scandalous.

>>19621672

>>19614072

>>19622065
Not an argument. I accept your concession.

>>19622150
I know it hurts Mysta

>>19621192
ears flaps

>>19611561
Yeah, right, because shitposter had so much time in their hands that they made a fake mp4 too. Surely they have done this many times before, right?

>>19612455
Like Froot?
https://twitter.com/lichvtuber/status/1415094697241071623?lang=en
Yeah, I wouldn't want them to get too comfortable either

>>19612915
I did and still do, but I'm under no illusion that it isn't a shitty thing to do. That's why I keep all those shittalks private so no one would think I did, or do shitty things.

>>19624411
>HoloEN
>worked so hard
Classic Bong banter

>>19614757
You can only speculate, but we KNOW with nijiEN, fucking 2 faced backbiting hypocrites.

Nijigger falseflagging as a KFP trying to stir shit up again.
https://twitter.com/the_new_ones/status/1500087523372331011

>>19626533
Where have I seen that name before...

>>19612915
I do but my golden rule is always to always talk it IRL.

>>19626533
>niji
No takos, he's one of yours.
>>19626718

>>19621192
My onahole

>>19609747
idiot, tech in shambles just references how Shu is the tech guy in nijien and he's joking as if Holo lost his chance at having him as a dedicated technician.
Holofans projecting ill intentions on that specific message are just dumb.

>>19627906
Funny you talk about projections when we have actual proof of Hololive living rent free in NIjiENs heads

>>19628073
you talk big as if you were not spending your time on here every single day

"Nijisanji vs. Hololive"

This notation is not appropriate.

"Nijisanji's aggression was made public by Nijisanji itself."
That's all.

>>19614079
>that first comment
topkek

>>19608956
How hard is it to have a work discord and normal discord. I use both and just have my work one signed into my phone and my normal one to my computer. I switch that sometimes, but come on.

>>19628798
From what I see, vtubers on average are literally tech retarded.

>>19614079
Reddit holokeks hated them for speaking the truth.

>>19621192
my sexy stinky wife

>>19613776
>Who did no shit talking by the way
Petra was a spy all along? Did she leak it on purpose knowing it'd heavily damage any potential HoloEN-NijiEN collabs and has a graduation incoming only for her to resurrect within weeks as a HoloEN3?

Its over hololive
You will go the same way as up8 in a few months by 2024 you shall cease to exiat

>>19621192
My sex slave

>>19617807
If you'd really been on 4chan for years, you would realize that people here love blowing things out of proportion

>>19609301
>t. somebody that has never worked in any information sensitive company.
If the wrong person gets incriminated in literally anything, even if they're not directly related to you or your company, shit you say could end up in a court record, at which point it's public.
NEVER shittalk on channels with open access.

>>19612915
I don’t think a direct competitor is one you’re overtly jealous of and absolutely swamps you in every metric but go off sister

>>19610035
i don't use reddit so maybe this is a stupid question but why does it say "this post has been removed" when it clearly hasn't and i can still see it?

>>19633573
Form what I understand, OPs are always visible as long as you have the link to it.

>>19611118
So did Aloe.
She's not even a hololive member at the time.
Got shit on anyway

>>19620248
holy kek. I love Millie now

>>19628798
millies pretty retarded so not a surprise

>>19620442
>for imaginary flooping

>>19613778
gura' assraping rosemi's birthday stream out of nowhere was so sad and sunny. niji-holo collab never ever.

>>19620528
>>19634677
if council flopped, what does that make the whole Niji EN branch

>>19613778
and it's a good thing considering

>>19614039
nice cope you got there, friend

>>19634677
Take your meds and heal your number rot you dumb bastard.

Something just seems off about this whole thing. If a discord screen accidentally pops up, 99% of the time there will be nothing bad on it. However, this time they happen to be saying bad things and it happens to appear during Petra's stream. idk the whole thins seems fishy.

>>19608956
>r/hololive
holoreddit niggers SEETHING

>>19609088
you sound like a toxic child yourself

>>19610035
They locked and deleted it now? No idea how reddit works but there was a comment from just 2 hours ago.

>>19635664
Seems the mods decided to make a new topic with a different title.

>>19628163
pot kettle etc

>>19615637
> not found
holokeks BTFO

>>19620109
The problem is not the stuff that was shown, but the fact that there is proof tat they have a channel they shittalk about other people in on their official accounts at all.
If you wanna do that make a fucking alt account and multi-instance discord, and log the fuck out of that account any time you are gonna stream, its literally as easy as adding a line to the target of the shortcut for discord and making a spare discord account.

>>19637877
black company please understand

>>19612915
I'm not emotionally invested in my company to even have negative feelings towards its rivals.

>see Nijisanji trending on Twitter, ignore it because I'm not Chinese
>check on /vt/ hours later and realize why it was trending

>>19640180
At least they’re experiencing trending!

>>19632076
Actually I used to work for a government agency in a capacity that required an NV1 clearance.
It's very common everywhere. The amount of not only shit talking between companies but also government branches and divisions is insane.

>nijien getting canceled and graduating soon
Always bet on hololive

>>19640180
oh it is? can you show a proof?

>>19610504
What veibitch video?