/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>2001356
Uohhhhhhh!!!

Wow. A lot of happenings recently! And people said that Gura wasn't doing anything else behind the scenes. Rrats getting BTFO left and right!

>>2001356
Will Matsuri drink fish piss?

>>2001694
I would drink festival juice

>>2001694
Gura- shark soup
Aqua- onion soup
Mori- retard soup
Mel-?

>>2001356
>Sora iro days

HASHIRIDASHITAAA~
CUNNY GA IMA DEMO~

>>2001356
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

>>2001777
Covid

>>2001356
They know 100% what they're doing.

>>2001777
Vaginal secretions soup

>>2001356

>>2001777
Tensai soup

>>2001356
so who has the cuter voice

>>2001356
Incoming EoP boost for Matuli

>>2001777
>Mel-?
Vampire themed prostitute soup

>>2001356
I'm bouta UUUUUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>so nyanners we saw the recent success of the goomba pissgirl collab song so we want Ai and you to be lolis in your song too I trust that won't be an issue?

lets fucking go Festival

>>2001727
>>2001869
>:loudly_crying_face:
is this a japanese meme?

>>2009218
>hownew.ru

>>2008713

>>2001356
She doesn't care. In fact she never cared about it. She just wants gura to be a happy autistic shark. ENMA LOVE!

>>2001356
Holy shit bros their side-tails actually mirror each other from this perspective.
SaMenhera love!

>>2001356
Nice fake 1 april

>>2009439
anon...

>>2001356

>>2001356
0 Uoohs in chat
0 Crying emojis chat
Smh ngl

>>2010033
There actually were though. A few minutes after it went up there were some uoohs. You're late as fuck

>>2010033
There, happy?

I want to impregnate Matsuri and continue the bloodline of menheras

Also a reminder to block and report twitchniggers

>>2010169
Matsuri is the Chris Redfield of Hololive?

SHARK BROTH MAXIMUM CONCENTRATE UOOOOOOOOOH

>>2001356

when i woke up this afternoon, I told myself i wouldn’t jack off today. I already beat my meat like it owed me money to Pekora last night. Should’ve known Gura would change my mind.

>>2009218
newhow

For all the dicksuking matsurisus do to lyger, the chat is an absolute mess.

>>2010732
sus

>first holo to sex gura is matsuri

sasuga festival

I want to fuck the menhera out of Festival .

>>2014515
I want to drink Festival's Menhera Juice

It's a good thing Gura isn't a menhera.

imagine the cunny

>>2001356
I can't believe Matsuri fulfilled her promise, and is Gura's first

Don't even like loli but UOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH

>>2001356

happy 4 u dayo

>>2001777
Blood soup

>>2009218
twitter /v/eddit meme

>>2015517
I miss her old model like you wouldn't believe

>>2001356
UOOOOOOOOHHHHHH!!!!!

>>2001356

>>2001356
THEY

ARE

>>2001777
>Mel-?
milk

>>2022915
COVERING A SONG

>pre-chat still a huge shit mountain
nice job lyger, you autistic faggot, stop masturbating to Matsuri's last tweet and do your job

>>2001356
>enma love
More like Enma knelt. But it's just a song premiere, right? This is like the skit with Marine where they probably never spoke to each other and recorded the lines at different times.

Uuuuuuu-
UOoooOooooOOOOOOOHHHHH

>>2008598
Matsuri. Gura has a sexy voice while singing, especially Sorairo Days. Though it's in Matsuri's prime range so it'll sound really nice.

>>2023484
No Hololive mods actually use their mod powers for anything other than notoriety. They're useless.

I hope all UOOOOOOHHH in chat died

Actual collab when?

>>2023484
Why would anyone mod a pre-chat? The premier is still in 3 hours anyway.

>>2001356
https://vocaroo.com/1dZXoPh2lERQ

>>2001356
Wow. There's already a dislike

>>2023762
This is an actual collab. What do you think collaboration means?

>>2018287
You don't like Pikarangutan?

>>2023911
Anon wants a collab stream but the language barrier is to tough for both Gura and Matsuri. A song is fine since it's just Gura singing and memorizing the JP lyrics.

>>2023865
song name?

I love cunny!

>>2009308
So, can you explain what happened to the Haachama collab?

>>2001356
Uooooooohhhh

>>2001356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ys9IS5r9yA

It's about to begin...

I always forget premiers have extra timers.

UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

I've very happy the autotune is minimal for Gura. Especially since her natural vibrato is so intoxicating.

It fucking sucks.
>t. /mu/

>>2026127
I'm* fuck

Watch Gurren Lagann, /vt/.

well that was certainly a cover

It went like a wet fart

Gura's voice is soulless

ah, of course people would shit on it. It's a solid/good cover but nothing memorable. Matsuri's voice is a bit too... um... normal? how to put it, her voice is forgettable, which is unfortunate and dragged the whole thing down a bit. that said she's a good singer, it's just Gura is so much better then Matsuri it isn't funny (I know she would hate to hear that but the truth of the matter is this is a bit meh because of matsuri).

It didn't have half the charm of either of Gura's two karaokes of the song. listening to her do ride on time right now, and man, she is so much better then matsuri it isn't funny.

It's good

>>2026347
i think you mean matsuri, they tuned gura's voice back a bit to match matsuri's tone which might be what you're hearing, you can tell the processing that went into this to make two independent covers of the song into a duet.

I’m happy for Gura. At the same time though I don’t think this cover really suits her (I actually liked Festival’s voice more). Gura’s first original should hopefully be WAY better.

>>2025359
Gura retconned for Matsuri which is expected of a kouhai. Her karaoke stream of Sorairo is so much better. Also sounds like the turned her down and Matsuri up a bit in volume. Gura struggles to break through the bgm.
6/10 I expect better next cover.

>>2026444
>both of them release a disappointingly average cover
>this is all Matsuri's fault!
Do chumbuds really? Between this and Iofi no wonder nobody wants to collab with your meme shark

I feel like Gura pulled her punches with this one so that Matsuri could keep up.

Expectation vs Reality.

They overhype it.

>>2026183
Somewhat related, I'm always surprised when I'm reminded about how young most of the English-speaking fanbase is now when I tune in to anime song streams.

>>2026142
/mu/ doesn't know music

>>2026142
>Death grips fans
>Opinions on music

>>2026444
They both sound average retard. Sorairo Days is just a mid song overall despite the nostalgic value.

>>2026649
Here's how Gura sounds in a fucking karaoke stream of Sorairo Days with no production on her vocals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqg79Ypt0Yg

>>2026649
>Do chumbuds really? Between this and Iofi no wonder nobody wants to collab with your meme shark
it's because of the voice differences.

I'll explain, gura's voice is more "sing-song" then matsuri's, her voice rises and falls like a songbird when she sings, plus it's filled with a LOT of vibrato, something common in the west but VERY uncommon in japan (and matsuri doesn't sing with vibrato) . Matsuri has a flatter very Japanese singing style (she's not a bad singer, she's technically very strong, stronger then gura in fact, the difference though is her voice is pretty forgettable, where as gura's has a lot of character), by flattening gura's voice removing the vibrato and her pitch changes to harmonize with matsuri they stripped it of her "charm" as a singer.

It's not that matsuri did anything to make this a mediocre cover, it's just a bad team up with gura. in order to harmonize their voices you need to strip gura of too much of her character.

8.5/10 like it

>>2026649
chumkeks are delusional, nothing new

Ah yes, a thread a /mu/ retards and music class rejects that didn't sing a note since their balls drop.

I'm just gonna enjoy the song because it gives me the happy chemicals.

>>2026649
>nobody wants to collab with your meme shark
Why do fuckers think a fucking collab is some end all be all?

>>2027078
>music class rejects
I have a music degree and I can confirm that there were tons of issues in this song and the producer should be fired, never to work again.

There's no reason the karaoke versions should be so much better.

>>2027078
Fuck your chemicals. All I'm saying is this cover is worse than Gura's karaoke cover. Do you not have ears to not hear the difference here? >>2026947

>>2026142
>t.mu
Thanks for the letting us know in advance to ignore your opinion, very convenient!

>>2027226
these antis haven't even listened to the cover yet, ignore the bait

And as always, the mixing fucking suck (this time even more).

So many Kiara fanboys here...

It was ogey
the instrumental was way too loud but that's fine.
They both sound good because they're good singers, but their voices are too processed.
Matsuri sounds too stiff for example right at the beginning
https://youtu.be/2ys9IS5r9yA?t=16
It sounds particularly squeaky and you can almost taste the compression. They chopped off the lows way too much in the whole vocal track for some reason.
Gura is too quiet and the processing messes up her vibrato, but they sound good together...
It would've been 100 times better with a competent mixer.
In terms of performance, it was great on both sides, I love their voices and it's sad that you have to pay close attention to hear the harmonies because they were on point..
I blame the production/10.

>>2026975
Honestly this. Their voices don't fit each other. I know that Matsuri is better if she does a duet with Suisei because their voice fits but I don't know who is a better partner for Gura.

the mixing though...

It was a cover.
Saw it, liked it, forget it.
Nothing much to remember, no feels while listening.

>>2026975
I agree with this assessment overall though despite the bad matchup I think it came out alright considering the circumstances

>>2027346
I did listen to it. It was ok. It was a cover, no biggie. Now if it was original song that would end up this meh, I'd see the problem.

>>2001356
Now I see why this collab is happening. Matsuri just wanted to voice mog on HoloENs top voice talent.

>>2028042
weak bait

>>2026183
I did that back in 2007. I was even around for the /a/ livewatch threads.

I feel like Gura could have a beautiful voice if she tryhard a little more. Her voice on the song sounds lazy as fuck but you can tell theres potential in it.

NGL, Festival's singing sounds better than Gura's on this cover.

>>2028143
She sounds like me singing in the shower. Singing for fun, but not really putting any real effort into it.

Cover was meh

>>2028116
2007-2009 /a/ was a special place. Good to know you're still here, pal.

For me, this cover lacked the SOUL that Gura's normal karaoke has. Is it just the difference between a touched up recording and a live performance?

this is what i have worried about for months, my worries fully justified by the offensive fucking trash vocal production that plagues hololive studio music as a whole. i am sorry to find myself in the position of saying i told you so.

whatever your view is on who's the best singer in hololive, you should be able to admit that both matsuri and gura are, at the very least, reasonably capable singers who can rehearse a song to the point that their intonation supports an approach to vocal mixing that corrects problems here and there, rather than coldly and mindlessly replacing their pitch from beginning to end with the unvarying tone of an electronic oscillator. but that's what we got here.

the problem that this song lays out before the mix engineer is mainly one of preserving the contrast in the sounds of the two voices, but without letting matsuri's softer tone be overshadowed by gura's sharper, more piercing timbre. he seems to have ignored this problem entirely and instead favored an approach of just flattening everything out with multiband compression, like he was running a rolling pin over it. someone unfamiliar with their voices would probably struggle to tell which one of them is singing at several points in the song. i guess he had some trouble setting up the multiband comp and had to put an aggressive highpass on them first though because all the low end got scraped off at some point. i'm not sure where the distortion is coming from but it might be youtube.

but it gets worse. instead of letting their voices even sound like voices, he seems to have reached for an off-the-shelf pitch correction preset that would sound more at home on a yasutaka nakata track. no, we're not quite at cher "believe" levels here, but even the most naïve listener should feel that there's something very fake and unnatural about the vocal sound. even if we assume one of the two really struggled with intonation for 20 takes in a row, and he was just trying to match them, that should still have just opened another door to preserving contrast in the duet instead.

shoko nakagawa's vocals on the original TTGL recording should have set the tone here. this isn't the type of song that asks for a heavy-handed, synthetic vocal treatment. it didn't get one when she sang it for the anime, and it shouldn't have gotten one here. despite the oppressive dynamic processing, the overall aesthetic of nakagawa's sorairo days is a celebration of humanity and hope. instead we get... this. it sounds more like a soulless victory march of the anti-spirals.

i can't listen to this. i can't enjoy it. all i can hear is completely needless vandalism of the voices of two singers who deserved better. certainly more than the bare minimum of getting it out the door, which is all they got. i've been able to listen to a better recording of gura singing "sorairo days" for four and a half months, one that she did live in a single take. i especially feel bad for matsuri for having so little to show for what i'm sure was a lot of effort on her part.

in this state it would have been better not to release it at all. but, hey, @john_neoneet is a busy guy and i'm sure he's already forgotten about it.

0/10

>>2028298
a

i

liked it!

>>2028217
yeah exactly, but she's not even bad at it so it's even more frustrating

>>2001356
It's not that good

>>2028298
Unironically post this on reddit. That hugbox needs you sound engineer-san

>>2028244
There's this strange paradox going on in my head where it in equal parts feels disturbingly distant and also like it was just yesterday.

>>2028298
It's been one and a half hour since Gura and Matsuri's vocal performances were butchered by John Neoneet's terrible mixing.
I'm glad that they are fine and the cover is gaining traction but their efforts for what could've otherwise been a perfect song have gone to utter waste.

JOHN HATE

>>2028298
BASED

>>2028143
go download her latest member's karaoke if you want to listen to full tryhard gura

>>2028298
Fucking based
John hate
Fuck u John

>>2028298
soundengineer kun, whos your favorite

>>2028298
good post

Gura sounds autotuned in this

>>2028298
Why don't they just hire Kokorobeats to do their mixing? He seems to do a pretty good job.

>>2026444
>Chumflakes already shitting on Matsuri
Next they'll go into her chat and harass her too, so Gura can once again ignore the issue of her fanbase being rabid dogs

>>2029443
remember according to them shark can do no wrong

>>2028777
It's two and a half hours karaoke though
as time passed , nerfed Gura

>>2026649
>>2029443
same fags
calm down sir

>>2028298
Correct on all counts

>>2029443
Take your meds please

>>2028298
Based but you also sound like the kind of nerd who overanalyses Noel's KING and listens to it on loop because it has "SOVL".

>>2028298
I'm just a lowly instrumentalist and amatuer, but I can agree with you on your analysis. It really feels like a lot of the recent Cover/Hololive official songs have had poor mixing. Calli's Priconne single being another example.

It was better than I expected

>>2028423
most people did.

>>2026509
I will say, even if it was some editing magic, Festivals voice has a 'umph' to it. Not a bass tone, but theres something my musically uneducated ears picked up on.

Fuck you guys, gura and festival are both lovely.

>>2028298
Spot on, at times I can't even tell who is singing, despite the fact they have very distinct voices normally.

>>2038258
They are, but the mix engineer did a shitty job.

>>2029405
t. Mori
But you're right.

>>2001356
Overrated song from an overrated show.

>>2026703
Waiting for one of the boomer girls to drop a cover of Tenchi Muyo openings, Blue Gender, Ruroni Kenshin(Sobkasu specifically).

Do any of the girls have the voice to do Inner Universe from GitS?

Matsuri's voice tone goes so well with 2000s anison it's amazing. I fucking love her voice. Gura must've practiced a frigging lot because I couldn't recognize her voice at all, she's a genius.

>>2039056
>Gura must've practiced a frigging lot because I couldn't recognize her voice at all, she's a genius.
Boy if you liked that you'll love hearing her karaoke version of this song.

>>2028298
I'm no engineer but I also thought something was not right with the base track, my guess was low quality source file, probably some shitty 320 kb/s mp3 he received by email from some retarded Sony employee. I would've just grabbed a FLAC from one of the many torrents.

>>2028298
Is this a copypasta because it feels like one and if not this deserves to be one.

>>2039490
>japan
>using torrents, ever

>>2028521
Another oldfag anon here, and fuck I completely forgot about these competitions. Was this Saimoe?

>>2040095
>he doesn't know

>>2038675
>sobakasu
Oh god yes.

>>2040199
it's all hentai, isn't it?

>>2038675
>Blue Gender anime
that's so boomer I struggle to accept that you're not talking about something else.

>>2028298
>someone unfamiliar with their voices would probably struggle to tell which one of them is singing at several points in the song
I am that guy except I can actually recognize Gura and Matsuri's voice. Ngl I thought it was Gura who sang on the first line.

>>2029372
because she IS being auto tuned.

This proves that Gura does indeed have bottom teeth.

>>2040143
Yes. I have a bunch of old shit saved from back in the day, but most of it is garbage/irrelevant.

>>2027183
Did you had fun getting that music degree at least?

>>2028298
Good analysis, I perceived a difference of quality between the the two voices, but I thought it was because Matsuri has access to a professional recording studio while Gura only had her home setup.

>>2040199
anon kun...
your ip address reps

git gud kiara you fucking baddie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78ovXSSCaL0

The music seemed to be too loud in relation to the voices. There was a big loss of range in guras singing compared to some random songs she's done.

>>2026975
This. They had to strip so much away from guras voice that it sounded like only a small sliver of her.

>>2028298
I'm sort of glad I can't hear all those things you mention. Not that I don't agree that it sounded like it was put though a rolling pin. Sad really. I have to assume this will be the first time a lot of people have heard of either of them and won't have a good takeaway.

Personal rrat, Gura mogged herself to make Festival appear more competent as a singer

>>2026975
yes, the difference in vibrato is shocking. i wonder if it's considered undesirable in japan? only other hololive girl who seems to use a decent amount is towa.

Yeah the mixer needs to be taken out back jesus

>>2045028
Interesting. That mixer could have been filtering out sounds he didn't like without realizing it.

>>2045028
>yes, the difference in vibrato is shocking. i wonder if it's considered undesirable in japan? only other hololive girl who seems to use a decent amount is towa.
The Japanese associate vibrato with horror.

>>2038258
No one in this thread worth listening to is shitting on either of the girls. The problem is 100% the shitty production from the sound guy. He needs to never work with hololive again.

>Sorairo days

I sleep

>>2045028
>>2045545
I highly doubt this is a thing, considering Gura's singing is overwhelmingly loved on 5ch too and her vibrato is one of her strongest and most noticeable features.

>>2045695
It's because she sounds foreign

>>2045726
No it's because she sounds fucking better. She has superior tone and pitch.

>>2045695
i'm sure you're quite used to strong vibratos in your ass, nerd

how exactly do you sharpen a horn

>>2038258
All the more reason they deserve better mixing, which they'll never get as long as feckless yes-men eat up whatever they're served and refuse to acknowledge any shortcomings.

>>2045753
Matsuri's voice is fucking fantastic, but for different reasons (bad producer choice most of the time) her official covers are often really scuffed, she ends up sounding hollow and emotionless and more like a background singer.
After hearing THIS cover I blame it entirely on the sound engineer.
Both of them are great singers and their karaoke performances fucking destroy this cover.
And the point was that Gura is very loved in japan thanks to nailing that western style of singing. It sounds different and foreign to the japs, just read the comments on this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4qmzFSTYO4

>>2045941
This, it's not that vibrato is "undesirable" in Japan, but using it the way Gura does is distinctively western compared to usually clean, crisp Japanese vocals. It almost has the sort of warble you'd find in Irish or American folk/bluegrass music, and she frequently rises or falls into notes rather than going straight for them, which gives them a more genuine, emotional-sounding tone compared to Matsuri's more refined/formal sound.

>>2046165
yes, the west seems to use a wider, slower vibrato, particularly when holding longer notes.

>>2028171
Because festival is a better singer.

>>2026142
I dont think I should listen to a retard who listens to Bladee and Death Grips while calling them as "music" at the same time

>>2045028
>i wonder if it's considered undesirable in japan?

I don't know about undesirable, I heard a vocal coach once explain that the Japanese music industry instructs it's singers to sing flat-proper notes. they're active taught to remove the natural vibrato from their voices. The effort the mixer took to strip all the vibrato from gura's voice is shocking. he damned near made her unrecognizable.