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20390152 No.20390152 [Reply] [Original]

Honest question, when can you separate art from artist? When even eastern european niggerhoop shitposters are making new accounts just to shit on you, yeah...is she redeemable as an artist, just not a person?

>> No.20390241

Hitler's paintings are much more valluable now after he killed millions of jews. Think about it.

>> No.20390279

>>20390152
Janos weighed in on this?

>> No.20390352

>>20390279
janos is full perform cancel against nasty frog woman

>> No.20390381

>>20390241
>millions
Kek, you're funny.

>> No.20390407

>>20390152
VICTORY SOUP AND WHISKEY IS POUR WHEN SARUEI COMMIT SUICIDE. /vt/ is go Full rondos . Is janos.

>> No.20390411

>>20390152
I stopped supporting her after it became clear she was a failed vshart reject

>> No.20390470

>>20390152
oh my god who cares
find better drama to spam threads about

>> No.20390598

>>20390152
luv saruei
luv vshojo
luv niji
luv holo
luv indies
luv unity

'ate dramapeddlers

bish bash bosh simple as

>> No.20390622

>>20390598
based

>> No.20390643

>>20390152
How can you even separate art from the artist when it's a streamer?

>> No.20390680

>>20390152
hot model dont care

>> No.20390702

>>20390241
we all know you can't kill more than 1 person an hour anon, we've been over this on the boards for years..

>> No.20390705

>>20390152
Based Janos

>> No.20390735

>>20390705
as a Celtics fan, these vwhores deserve none of my emotional labor; janos is my oshi and has been since the fall of 2017

>> No.20390761
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>>20390152
Nope.

Germany > France once again.

>> No.20390771

>>20390152
Is Janos /vt/?
captcha 2HORT

>> No.20390788

>>20390702
um... hitler didn't do it on per hour basis?

>> No.20390876

>>20390152
Saruei's been a crazy bitch for years, the less I see or hear of her the better.
>"when can you separate art from artist?"
This is a fair question, I don't think you can but I draw the line at giving them money. I'm able to read and process Lovecraft and Ayn Rand since I'm a big boy, but Saruei doesn't offer anything close to that other then being a bitch so I'm good.

>> No.20390898
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>>20390241

>> No.20390920

>>20390152
I did not liked her even before she became a Vtuber. An actual twitch thot with massive stick up her ass that always was treating people like garbage. Current drama just made it more apparent to everyone...
Captcha: THWAH. I guess it's trying to say who's the nicer artist chuuba lol.

>> No.20390949

>>20390152
Her mistake was not simply accepting all entries and quickly filtering out the shitty entries herself, then judging from the best ones that she liked. There would still be drama, but much less of it. The whole thing really shows how awful the ego-driven artist community online is in general.

>> No.20391010

>>20390876
>when can you separate art from artist?
I mean she's her own art, I'm pretty sure. Unless someone else did her chuuba model.

>> No.20391047

>>20390152
English.
This motherfucker doesn't speak it.

>> No.20391053

>>20390241
>millions
DYRBI

>> No.20391081

>>20391047
Janus is based but that's just an edit

>> No.20391151

>>20391010
I mean... her graphic art aside - for vchuuba their personality and how they present themselves is part of their art, what they create. If Saruei acts in public an entitled piece of shit princess using her vtuber brand, then people will attach it to said brand.

>> No.20391168

>>20391081
do you see his normal tweets? they're fucking amazing

>> No.20391210

>>20391047
janos not need to speak full english . would loose full rondos perform on twitter .

>> No.20391287
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20391287

>>20390152
i separate art from artist 100%
artia is my oshi and will continue to be my oshi forever.
even if every allegation against her roommate being a "traitor" were true, I wouldn't care because they didn't happen on stream. i'm here for entertainment, not politics

>> No.20391332

>>20391287
based artiafag

>> No.20391551

>>20391287
shut the fuck up pippa

>> No.20391691

>>20390898
"Not enough", as my grandpa would say

>> No.20391746

>>20391287
Is being extremely loyal to your country even a bad thing though?

>> No.20391799

I don't base my opinions on the ranting of ESLs

>> No.20391832

>>20391746
It depends on your country, then people apply different standards.

>> No.20391878

>>20391746
thing is the chinks are not being extremely loyal to their country. they're being loyal to the party.

>> No.20392118

>>20391878
>>20391832

>> No.20392151

>>20391746
Being loyal to your country is one thing, supporting hair-trigger irredentist paranoia and nationalist cyber mobs is another.

>> No.20392305

>>20392151
>cyber mobs
Do you ever tell people to stop harassing others online who you greatly dislike anon? Of course you don't. You approve of it, "if they deserve it." That is why this is all the pot calling the kettle black.

>> No.20392354

>>20391287
Cute Artia!

>> No.20392356

>>20391878
Yeah. I’m a chink who likes China the country and the CCP piss me the fuck off.

>> No.20392438

>>20392305
I constantly see streamers tell their viewers not to harass people what are you talking about

>> No.20392554
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20392554

>>20391287
Artia's petting gif is still the only version that works. Every incarnation of it is horribly synced

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>>20392554
Example

>> No.20392642

>>20392554
now THIS is art

>> No.20393040

>>20391287
based ice cream

>> No.20394405

>>20391287
>separate art from artist
this is the dumbest shit internet faggots have ever came up with

>> No.20394489

>>20391287
B- but. . She streamed a ccp propaganda movie before.

>> No.20394580

>>20391287
>i separate art from artist 100%
Base, except that doesn't work when YOU'RE the art.

>> No.20394614

>>20394405
>have a favorite band, love every album they put out
>they come out openly against something you passionately believe in, let's say you're a faggot (like you are anon) and the band is openly severely anti gay. they all support mandatory gay conversion therapy
>the music, while well liked and revered is now somehow no longer good, magically overnight, just because the artist has a different opinion than you.
The real world example of this (that has nothing to do with internet culture) is Edgar Allan Poe. just because he was a virulent racist (and the majority of the literary community disliked him for that) it doesn't make him any less of an accomplished author with many classics. The quality of his stories is unaffected by his personal beliefs (except the stories where his racism bled into, perhaps)

>> No.20394628

>>20394614
>just because he was a virulent racist it doesn't make him any less of an accomplished author with many classics
it makes him more of an accomplished author

>> No.20396734

>>20390598
when have the brits ever liked the french this post is fake as fuck

>> No.20397012

Wait what did Froot do exactly?

>> No.20397608

>>20394580
They're just actors playing a role on stream
sure it's a role that involves alot of personal improv, but there is inherently a separation between their character and their true selves
as much as we attribute the character of iron man to robert downy jr, and jokingly say that he is iron man, he's not. he's just an actor
It doesn't matter for a second what artia's roommate thinks about politics if she keeps any political talks out of her character artia. even if she's politically active on a personal roommate account, it's irrelevant to the entertainment value of the character

>> No.20397661

>>20396734
I don't like the French but Ngubu is a pretty good footy player so they can't be all bad

>> No.20397701

>>20394614
Sure, I can separate art and artist in regards of a book most times.
But what if the "art" is an extension of the artist itself like in vtubing, and it just happens that the "artist" is an unlikeable cunt?
There's an inexorable link between art and author that's harder to separate than in other forms of art.
Like Stephen King. His writting is good, but his personal politics make him look like a retard, but he separates that reality from fiction.
On the other hand, following a vtuber's social media is part of the experience, but time and time again they prove themselves to be terrible at maintaining an image. Wouldn't that stain the "art" in their case?

>> No.20397742

>>20397012
She hasn't given me a blowie with her pretty goth make-up. Unforgivable.

>> No.20397826

>>20390949
You know what's the best way to avoid that?
Just use corporate speech, without any judgement on the quality of the piece and encouraging and thanking everyone for being part of this amazing community,and displaying all the art on a separate announcement with proper credit.
You'll look like a fucking saint with just 15 minutes of effort, but that's too much for Satl;drei

>> No.20397910

>>20390152
No idea who she is, but from summarily reading what happened my conclusion is that Saruei has no fault. As usual the "community" surrounding vtubing is garbage.
The artist that was disqualified would have taken it to twitter even if no reason was given for the disqualification, crying about the lack of explanation. This would have resulted in the same situation we have now.

>> No.20397962

>>20397701
yes, the things they do on their non streaming character accounts (stuff like official twitter) absolutely does count towards "the character" and if they go off the rails into political territory there, then it absolutely would stain the art
how much of that you can tolerate is gonna vary from individual to individual, but i'd say it's just best to avoid those topics overall and focus on being an entertainer. but with artia, as far as i can tell, the "worst" thing she did (as artia) was do a movie watchalong of a questionable movie. it's a given that everyone inherently knows that "the game/movie shown onscreen does not necessarily represent the views of the streamer/cover corp" as Ame had to remind us when she was playing LA Noire (when they started saying negro). Otherwise, artia just said "i just want everyone to be happy, don't talk about politics in my chat this isn't the place for it". She could call for the downfall of western civilization and whatever else on her roommate accounts, but she kept it out of her streams so i don't care. because i loved her streams as they were

>> No.20398055

>>20397910
I call bullshit on that.
Saruei is a cunt, has been for years, and this just proves once again she and her mod are either both stupid, in bed, or just horrible at pr. Probably all of them.
There are a million ways wherein she could've gone around it without appearing like an egotistical whore, but she's just being herself, and her personality is the problem.
The dumb artist is leeching off of this and people support him because, as far as what proof we have, Saruei is on the wrong, and the thing that ultimately proves that she herself realized she fucked up was her tweeter generic announcement-apology.jpg that has the same format that literal convicted rapists use before the cops catch them.
She fucked up, and only way to avoid fucking up like her is to not be her. Hence, the problem becomes obvious: she is the problem.

>> No.20398198

>>20397962
True enough.
I seem to remember one stream of hers where she has a little moment that looked like an indoctrination video, about how proud she was to be part of somrthing bigger and that's the most "political" I've seen of her, fortunately.
Personal politics and art never mesh, unless, and ONLY when your art is inherently political. Vtubers should stay out of it, and their rms shouldndo their best not to let that cancer leak to their main channels.
Captcha: J2NTR

>> No.20398245

>>20398055
If it's known that she's a cunt, why are people complaining about it now? Why are they engaging with her at all? Does their rationale disappear the moment 5k are on the table?

>> No.20398309

>>20398245
Because despite, or maybe because depending on how you look at it, being a cunt, she's a lot more popular than the average 2view so all the 2views gotta dogpile together because its okay to do it if its "punching up"

>> No.20398343

>>20392356
then you're a normal chinese. Chinks are fucking disease CCP cocksucker and you're not a part of it

>> No.20398507

>>20398245
she was a 2view IRL menhera streamer before who had 10 times more followers on twitter than avg views. everyone in art circlejerk knew shes a cunt and stayed away from her, and now shes whining she cant hab fwens uwu

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