/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Why are the OP images never on topic?

>>21019449
This one

/#/ is declining

>>21019505
Hey man

>>21019505
>2 duplicate threads
Yeah

This one..

Why is there three fucking threads?

I hate you fags so fucking much

>>21019542
>>21019560
I guess they think they're /hlgg/

https://twitter.com/kureijiollie/status/1507266075762696199
Ollie's got something planned for one million

>>21019542
>>21019560
Blame the faggots who make early threads to make sure we use "theirs"

Anyway back to my point, Amouranth is reclining unless if she resorts to variety/collab content which takes more effort and cannot be spammed unlike her pool content so either way her watchtime will suffer.
It won't be easy for the rabbit though, she still have to make up for her awful first quarter watchtime if she wants to get that no.1 female streamer title.

>>21019600
I hope it's another yubiblast stream

>>21019670
Say If gura stream 2/day with avg 15k ccv, how long would it take to surpass amourath and became no.1 streamer?

>>21019670
Don't doubt the number rabbit.

>>21019711
She won't even break top 5. They use watched hours for that title.

Holo schedules are looking weird as fuck today with the costume and debut, they really should've had them back to back to get that funnel and give anyone who wants to stream for more than an hour more space

Would depend on how long those streams would be.

>>21019782
Yeah its weird because of the costume and debut.

>>21019792
Kirby strong.

>>21019807
Meant to reply to this>>21019711

>>21019775
How do you even count a watched hour?

>>21019838
Number of hours stream x average ccv

>>21019831
>>21019792
I saw tenma got around 800 earlier. What's make this a buff?

>>21019876
novelty new game buff. It probably won't get good numbers when everyone starts playing it.

>>21019600
It's going to be a collab with the Trash Taste Boys and she's going to invite the other girls in it.
She talked about it on a Member stream

>>21019876
New kirby game.

>>21019720
After seeing the metronome tournament, Pekora could probably become an eventfag and just start high ccv events every month and it will probably be enough to boost her watchtime.

>>21019909
Members stream claims should include an mp4 link for proof. They're way too easy to make up

>>21019909
Wow, you're right. Those silhouette looks like grant and connor. Good for Ollie.

>>21019909
Knowing it's the zoombie I could potentially believe it but it sounds too perfectly crafted to make /vt/ mad so I don't

>>21019984
Yep, and this is 4chan FFS, that's pretty fair game /here/ as opposed to other places.

TRASH TASTE COLLAB WITH A HOLO JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE.

Thanks for that jannies, sorry for making yet another thread but it's the only way the earlyfags will stop

JANNIE LOVE

>>21019600
Pekora
Subaru
Kanata
Towa
Shion
Ina?
Botan?
Mio
ID2
Is this a fucking concert?

https://youtu.be/qcnmFp2hWIc
>holostars special karaoke collab with male bandori on the 28th during jp primetime
Guess this explains why uproar's debuts are on the 29th and 30th only

>>21020130
It's a 3d live obviously

>>21019792
>Oga with his manly-ass voice is playing a kid's game
that contrast is funny to me

Since it's dead hours, is Hololive different from any other idol/talent agencies in the world? When I think of black pink/twice, they're kinda like Units, rights? So, the company behind them is like Cover. Does their company operate on recruiting talents for separate units in Korea? Do they force Black pink/Twice to shill lower units by hanging out with them on screen?

https://twitter.com/shiroganenoel/status/1507274238738444290

Another Yamaha collab
https://twitter.com/YamahaMusic_Jp/status/1507266037116510209

>>21020210
Yamaha sucking cover dick now.

>>21020130
probably new song with MV?

>>21020230
Knowing how much of an audiofag Noel is, this mere image gives me confidence in those products, really good choice of sponsor.

>>21019600
>Pekora

I smell big numbers.

>>21020233
Noel is the top ASMR artist in Japan, Patra is second. She knows here shit on sound tech and is also a big influencer. No wonder she gets the sponsorship. Too bad for Niji though, they don't have that kind of person.

>>21020210
>>21020230
This makes sense. Yamaha probably hand picked noel for this.

>>21019600
That's a lot of JPs potentially helping out an ID. That's neat.

How is the metrics of HoloID3 so far compared to JP6? Sub wise, Trailer viewers and etc.

>>21020277
who's the biggest niji ASMR artist?

>>21020327
Come on dude.

>>21020349
cum

kind of dead right before major streams start. let's numerfag height. how tall is your oshi? mine is 160cm.

>>21020197
Too bad there isn't a single K-popfag on this board to tell us the difference

>>21019900
It's already not getting particularly good numbers, oga's baseline is 400 ish

>>21020374
153

>>21020210
>>21020230
Great decision in picking Noel for this. I'm not an audiofag so don't understand what the fuck are those stuff but it's probably a mic review?

>>21020374
160 cm

>>21020383
It got around 800 for his first playthrough although that's mostly because it was in his usual timeslot of jp midnight

What a weird JP primetime tonight for holos, they have 2 hours where everyone can't overlap. Pekora is probably going to skip tonight or pull a throwaway content again like mario kart.

>>21020336
Uhhhh I can't say off the top of my head but I'd bet on it being Ratna Petit. Personally I prefer Alice but she doesn't do too many of them these days. Lots of Nijis do them but I can't think of anybody apart from Warabeda, Ratna and Alice off the top of my had. I guess Claire also does her keyboard stuff but it's not really ASMR by my standards. Anybody here actually numberfag niji ASMR streams? I wouldn't know anything about >NijiEN though, I refuse to watch them on principle. In any case, they're nowhere near the top dogs of ASMR, though Alice went pretty hard on them and does have a KU100.

>>21020530
Should've proofread, I meant that
>Lots of Nijis do them but I can't think of anybody
who does them regularly
>apart from Warabeda, Ratna and Alice off the top of my head

>>21020210
>>21020230

Yamaha, the best asmr artist in hololive.

Why doesn't Nijisanji en twitter post info about JP stuff? They keep all their stuffs separated.

>>21020561
Onomachi Haruka also does them regularly but she's a 3-view shitter when she does anything else that isn't asmr or baseball/powerpro

>>21020530
Il pretty sure Millie? Is the one that got brought up that does weekly ASMR, and then there's Vox...

>>21020583
Her asmr is on some pekora/gura level vod.

>>21020197
A 6 min video of a JP student going to Korea to pursue her K-pop idol dream
https://youtu.be/G66uRJ6pAfI
>Trainees needs to be less than 50kg
>300 calories a day
>Dance training while under diet
>Korean study every 3 hours
>Evaluation exams every year, fail it and you're out
That's kinda hellish in comparison to Japanese idol companies or Hololive. Hololive cares fuck all unless you do content and stream a few hours every week. These girls are pushing it to the limit for a few hundred people at a concert. How does Hololive gain so much recognition about hundreds of talent agencies and music labels from streaming in under a year? It's ridiculous. If Cover decides to do HoloKR, a debut 3D choreographed dancing & singing gen is gonna get clipped and thrown around in the algorithm, making it a big and easy success.

>>21020583

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuu I miss Fauna

>>21020530
Wasn't Rindou part of that ASMRtist collab that Tamaki(?) did? The one where Patra talked about the insane amounts of money she spent on equipment

>>21020610
Holomembers released successful songs before they became idols.

>>21020374
141cm

>>21020610
Hololive is fundamentally entertainment company first, idol the 2nd. It's less about being good at dancing/singing but it's more about the connection between each members and their targeted audience.

How much will Mori boost Milky on twitch?
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1507271237554245635

>>21020590
Ah yeah, I forgot about Onomachi Haruka. I feel kind of bad...
>>21020592
>Vox
oh god
>>21020664
I totally forgot but blue Ayame also does them and she has a KU100 too. She doesn't do them too regularly though. I mean Yorumi Rena also does them sometimes. There's also Shirayuki Tomoe and good lord the fucking Crossick one sends me to heaven. I should also not understate Claire, she does her keyboard/typing ASMR but she also does proper ASMR like once in a blue moon. At the end of the day the Nijis do them but they're just not really that well known for ASMR, which shouldn't surprise anybody considering the number of ASMR only VTubers who blow most of them out of the water.

https://twitter.com/lantis_staff/status/1507266044708143105

>>21020718
I could release several covers over the years as a hobby and I cod still be shortlisted into Hololive Auditions. The big pre requisite is probably charisma and being entertaining. Ollie probably got in through Charisma alone.

>>21020610
>300 calories a day

that's starving tier

>>21020610
The only "idol" thing that Hololive do is the mandatory once per year concert and the idol costume. That's it.

>>21020752
1.5x her normal viewer. YouTube users don't really move over to twitch

>>21020610
>>21020750
There's also a fundamental difference between Japanese and Korean idol image where in Japan its all about the journey to see them get better whereas for Korea idols are supposed to be the best of the best.

>>21020610
I wonder if idolfags in Korea might cause an outrage in case HoloKR ever starts up with talents chugging oreo smoothies.

>>21020778
What's this about? Some kind of niji sponsorship?

>>21020784
I meant as holomem. Fubuki released say, fanfare years before the danced on stage.

https://youtu.be/5t60NWXXkQI
1.4k Premier

some holoJP gonna overlap ID3 debut stream tonight..

>>21020610
They're VTubers first who are also idols, rather than idols who are VTubers. People don't judge them by idol standards so they get to run around fucking around as casuals while still getting the benefits of being in the idol niche and catering to that audience. They don't have to worry about looks since they're VTubers and skill matters less when you interact with your audience daily for hours and endear yourself to them.

>>21020909
2k watching.

>>21020610
that's 2 years ago tho and the company is already closed
I'm pretty sure it's not that hellish now

>Reimu spilling her spaghetti again
Nothing damaging in this leak tho, maybe the most remarkable thing in it is the fact they label their “waves” Gen 1, Gen 2.

These girls need a refresher on how to avoid these fuckups

>>21020230
Great choice. I think her and Patra are the most serious about ASMR as a craft. Didn't they spend over $80k USD for all the equipment + studio?

>>21020931
Nijinigger mentality

wow this kirby game is kind of boring, this is number poison.

>>21020965
>the most remarkable thing in it is the fact they label their “waves” Gen 1, Gen 2
I FUCKING KNEW IT WAS A DUMB TERM

>>21020965
Did they faked this fuck up.

>>21020965
Where's the vent channel?

>>21020965
Oh no no no liver/wave schizo…

>>21020965
liver and wavefags btfo!

>>21021025
Nah, “liver” is there too.

>>21021021
probably in the general section
>>21020965
it really isn't that hard to capture the game instead of desktop, so why does this keep happening

>>21020965
Discord is the enemy of vtubers lmfao.

>>21020197
Most kpop companies in korea operate on a trainee -> debut -> massive marketing push -> farm cash pipeline. Hopefuls are taken in as children and trained extensively for years. If the trainee makes the cut they are put into whatever kpop group the company wants and if there's no group ready to be made they'll keep you around doing behind the scenes shit until there's an opening. Internal company unity is a generally good idea and the senior/junior dynamic is as strong as it is in Japan so yes, more established groups are often used to boost the newbies. There are of course exceptions to this before anyone decides to point them out but there aren't that many kpopfags around.

>>21020909
Her last few covers have done decently well on views for somebody who isn't much of a numbers magnet. P good voice for this song too

>>21021014
It'd be hard for people to call them that though. When people think about gens, it's gonn be about hololive. That's why people refer EN1/EN2/ID1/ID2 as Hololive gens.

>>21020965
timestamp ? This looks photoshopped. There's no reason a profesionnal discord would need a "server suggestion" channel

Treerat 1k for donation reading

11k DOOGpex

>>21021120
It's OkaKoro so that should be expected. They've only just started too.

>>21021120
what the fuck there was an okakoro collab, im out of this thread lmao

>>21021066
>Trainee > debut > marketing push > farm cash pipeline
Wait so this is VTA strategy right?

>>21020931
Matsuri is, but collabs with external parties have always been exempt, as well as sponsorships.

>>21020870
Lantis is deron's music label. The Catch is a radio show she's on once a week.

>>21021154
Apart from the fact that they don't usually stream the trainees activities, yeah

Oh boy, flare went in for the first strike. Seems like ID overlap is okay.

>>21021120
>>21021142
>>21021146
Is it really an Okakoro Collab? I checked the description earlier and it didn't have okayu mentioned.

>>21021183
They're on my screen, you tell me anon.

>>21020931
Only see Flare so far? I don't know what's going on with her, she seems hellbent on overlapping everyone.

>>21021183

>Debute stream
>3 hours left
>Only 1.2k waiting
Well looks like it will be around 20k live viewers at max for ID debute

>>21020965
I wonder what’s in that #off-limits

>>21021199
>>21021219
Fuck me, I just started walking my dog.

>>21021215
What the hell is Flare doing lately? She had a really good median back in the last quarter just recieving the end funnel from Marine or Pekora at late jp time. But now She has been going nuts on attacking outside her timeslot and getting fucked by Miko and Pekora.

>>21021227
Maybe for telling each other what not to say on stream? Like if people want to lay down boundaries on what they can touch on and what they can't. NijiEN is nepotism central isn't it? I'd imagine they have a lot of stories from the past and some they may not want shared or stories from offcollabs or something they may want to get off their chest but don't want people to use on stream for content. Fuck if I know.

>>21021258
>getting fucked by Miko and Pekora
god i wish that were me

>>21021227
Copyright stuff, real political/religion spicy takes they can't say. Seeing how close to vshojo these girls can act sometimes, it's good to have a clear ground rules on what to avoid.

>>21021154
Yeah but it's not exactly the most unique strategy ever.

>>21021154
Yes, and it'll be a matter of time till one of these companies decides to spend cash and invest in 3D avatars, have them perform in a 3D concert online. They could also go for vtubers, but I don't think anime is that popular in Korea. They might do Manhua like Characters. I just hope isegyeo isn't picked up by some company.

>>21021227
since its in information that might be for new members regarding copyright stuff/contract stuff

https://youtu.be/igbTHtwJbII

Anya Botan Collab

>>21020583
Fauna do more ASMR collabs with Gura onegai, so one day EN can get their own legendary Marine/Noel ASMR collab.

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1507266031437463558
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1507266031437463558
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1507266031437463558

Rushia channel will be nuked

>>21021227
20 pages of the N-word.

>>21021357
>Promise to play minecraft together like a year ago
>Play Raft in 2022

>>21021357
Can Botan speak Japanese?

>>21021258
my guess? she's trying to increase the amount of people that will prefer to watch her over others instead of relying on funnels, it's a strat i've seen that tends to not pay off that much, except in a slightly stronger floor

>>21021258
Maybe she was the one got hit the hardest by Rushia termination all along and is going schizo mode now

>>21021357
Right after the debut.

>>21021365
I'm just waiting for the eventual EN and perhaps EN x JP ASMR crosscollab once Japan is open again, it's guaranteed that either Gura or Fauna will want to try out Noel's ASMR booth.

>>21021293
Sounds like another #cope yab just waiting to be unveiled.

>>21021415
Should have done so like at her debut. Isn't it a bit too late to try cultivating her fanbase at this point?

>>21021415
Such a shame since she probably would've gotten atleast 10kin that cafe game if she streamed in her original slot.

>>21021456
Eh, I think the other anon's take is more reasonable than mine, that the channel is just the topics to not touch on in general. Perhaps it's a combination of both in which case christ imagine if that gets leaked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecuoqbJb9S8
Riot Music concert on right now, 4.6k watching just as the actual concert part is starting. They just announced two new members as well

>>21019600
Based Pekora showing up out of nowhere to pull her kouhai number again

>>21021479
It's viable but she needed strong content if she wants to break through that slot. Playing sekiro on it is not a good idea.

>>21021293
calm down anon

>>21021516
Man, everyone is releasing new members.

>>21021479
hey, never too late to do anything, she prob still has the most loyal elfriends + the background holobox radiation to slowly supply new people

Ayo where the holo heavyweighs at?

Okay, so with Rushia dead, who's currently the designated funneler/distributor for holo? Cos right now here's the current lineup
>Funneler/PG: TBD (formerly Rushia)
>Heavy hitters/front court: Miko, Subaru, Pekora
>Support/counter program: Korone
>Late night streamer: used to be Luna and watame but don't know if that's the case still
>Morning host: Blue Lamy/Pink Lamy

>>21020840
You can thank morning musume for that. Their journey and success shaped the modern idol industry we have today.

did the website go down for like 10 mins

4chan is reclining...

>>21021615
yes

The numberfag of Neoporte is having her first apex stream. Just passed 10k. Unfortunately I can't tell how good she is because she's a fucking dirty padnigger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZhIifgxQMQ

>>21021573
>>21021537
Plus she got a new live2D. Probably will help her establish her new identity

>>21021021
The vent channel is in their personal discord not the company one. There will never be another leak of that discord because management told them off for being stupid enough to use it while streaming.

https://twitter.com/airaniiofifteen/status/1506588742429011969?s=20&t=12Ik1aZo1OfmD3iGTAVh3w
Guess who just got Pekora's attention

>>21021653
>There will never be another leak of that discord
I admire your trust into these retards so soon after them revealing their discord for the third time.

>>21021598
It's too early to tell, it'll take a bit of time for everyone to sort out their schedules after Fes and the debuts before we can get a clearer picture of who's going to favor that earlier slot on the weekdays.

>>21021638
it's insane how a design can carry or sink a vtuber
I haven't managed to watch all the new debuts
is she the most entertaining? or is the design carrying hard?

she has by far the best design and by far the most subs thus far
I guess we'll see how she'll do

>>21021516
I got ad about this concert few days ago, apparently if you buy the ticket you also get free NFT or something.

in other news, Luna is back
https://twitter.com/himemoriluna/status/1507276062363123720

>>21021672
Kek. Iofi might've found her go to content.

>>21021598
Youtube raids could just destroy stuff like this since they can raid their own channels.

Hi numberbros any new numbers

>>21021752
Good news for lunaitos. They're basically losing their minds over their split during Luna's absence

>>21021439
Anya is feeling competetive now. There's probably another YWBJ in the new gen that'd threaten her little niche.
You better watch out ollie, the new star of ID is on her way

>>21021734
She seems pretty entertaining, good voice, speaks well, leans into looking bad when she fucks up in game etc

>>21021672
You mean, wants to have Pekora's attention.

>>21021792
>YWBJ
But 5chan told me that she was japanese.

>>21021782
okayu about to get doogpex to over 20k, not even noel+marine unstuck her from 16k

>>21021823
newfags, Anya literally invented the Japanese language

>>21021823
She is!

>>21021516
Wait, who's riot?

>Neo Porte and VSPO are doing well

What do you think Riku and more importantly his puppetmasters think right now?
Do you think they are sweating, especially after the failure of Ridiculous or whatever they called the group of those poor girls?

>>21021672
isn't kinda rare to get peko to respond to weird shit

>>21021782
I cum 4times today instead of the usual 2

>>21021782
Fubuki is getting 7k playing that cheap looking rhythm game
Also the new Kirby game appears to be a buff

>>21021899
They are music group that founded from the ashes of BraveGroup

>>21021931
Sana got good numbers in it.

>>21021383
good

>>21021900
Welp. They can say goodbye to apex now, since these two will dominate any Apex stream

>>21020965
Nijiangs are the gift that keep on giving

>>21021899
Vsinger group, get some really good numbers on their covers yes they're spun off from the game-bu company

>>21021931
gura mentioned wanting to play that in her member stream last night. can't remember if she said she was going to this week though

>>21021907
>Maybe she found good content potential from it. Possible an april fool stream content.

>>21021907
Yeah. It's so rare that you know Pekora is fond of the person or whatever they are doing if she decided to reply to them

>>21021900
Hal created his nijikillers with the blessings of Aqua.

>>21021786
Curiosity almost fucking killed me
Their split was *this* close to become /infi/

>>21022025
To be fair this series of Iofi benefit both side anyway and they don't even need to collab

>>21021957
>>21022018
Ah, I see. Thanks. I don't think they've been brought up in this thread before so it's news to me.

and with that okakoro gets temp gold until the big events

>>21022023
gura did another member stream? no wonder she's not showing in any charts

Getting part 4 of Towa vs HoloX in a few minutes. Foobs and Okakoro Apex seem to be the only competition.
Peak vs Laplus: 44,157
Peak vs Koyori: 10,237
Peak vs Chloe: 24,992

>>21022134
note that the koyo one happened under ccvid

>>21022134
oops, I forgot the note for Koyori, it was during the height of ccvid, the day after the marika tournament.

>>21022082
They dont get numbers and when they do, they are an example of how black companies dont fucking die

>>21022134
>Peak vs Koyori: 10,237
That must've been during CCVID right?

>>21022182
yeah, right after the mariokart tournament

>>21021383
archivefags got more than enough time to back everything up, so I guess this is officially RIP.
I downloaded what I wanted as well

>>21022124
Not that anon but the funniest thing is she's planning for another members stream. It's unfortunate for this thread but as a fan I'm happy enough.

>>21022180
They've learned their lessons i think. Riot has a whole new team different from gamebu.

>>21022232
Hopefully. It's funny to think that at one point in time, both Gamebu and .live were more popular than Hololive and could have been what current Hololive is with enough lucky breaks (Gamebu was literally an SOL anime)

>>21022180
I mean they're surely the second biggest vsinger group after Kamitsubaki but you know how /#/ is with anything that isn't top holo/niji numbers

>>21022321
God, .LIVE was the hololive that never was. It hurts to check their channel every time.

>>21022345
>>21022321
Nah.. even without them fucked up hololive would still where they are rn

>>21021516
Any numbers from last year in comparison?

>>21022388
Probably but not as big as they are now. .LIVE crashing basically left a good hole in the JP market for a specific niche that Hololive perfectly captured.

>>21022345
Fucking Sio and her fat ass man. Imagine having one of the OG 4 kings and being competitive with early Nijisanji (it would have been even closer if it weren't for Mito) only to drop off a cliff because of one of your employees doing a hit piece on you. This is what would have happened to Cover if Rushia was even half as smart as Sio.

https://twitter.com/imas_official/status/1507282397184036871
more shilling for za rummy

>>21022495
YAGOO PLEASE SAVE MY .LIVE OSHI

>>21022340
Are they really the second biggest after Kamitsubaki? Who's third then? That's a big gap and at the same time not big depending on how you look at it.

>>21022495
if Rushia is at least half as smart as Sio, she would still be here talking to her beloved fandeads being all happy about her being on stage and her duet with Ayame

>>21022546
Blue women strong

>>20991743

Some numbers, obviously I'm just talking a random anon at their word but this is pretty nuts if true
>6.4% of her all time superchat earnings happened in the last 4 days

>>21022566
No they are not. They are from Kamitsubaki. They are at the same level as ENOGU, niche but have a competent mane to arrange concerts, songs, covers, etc.

>>21022566
You cant compare kamitsubaki to them, even some people in /vsinger doesnt rate riot

>>21022638 (me)
*far from kami...

>>21022134
Towa is going to beat her in under 30 minutes. It wont hit chloe's numbers.

twappers 20k

>>21022457
Isn't. Live crashing one of the reasons why nijisanji rose to prominence back in 2018?

>>21022638
They're far bigger than Enogu, what are you smoking? Their last live didn't even get 500 watching while this is at 5.8k

>>21022755
Kinda. Without gamebu and. Live and with upd8 dead in all but name, they were really the only game in town at one point. That would be the equivalent of Nijisanji experiencing a massive yab that alienated more than half of its current fanbase leaving Cover with almost a monopoly over the entire vtubing scene.

>>21022664
Some people in /vsinger/ hates RIOT for some reason. They always said chink this chink that when RIOT was mentioned.

gozaru lost incredibly fast so towa peaked only at 22.4k

Why is Flare overlapping Zeta's debut, is she that butthurt over getting surpassed by Ollie that she's trying to take it out on the newbie?

>>21022495
>if Rushia was even half as smart as Sio.
If she was half as smart as Sio she would have sailed through the discord message fuckup and continue making 20kUSD / month (lowballing) to play vista and look cute and pretend not to be a thirsty menhera.

If the Strawberry bloke can bounce back from siring a bastard and accusations of being a wifebeater, Rushia could as well

>>21022790
Nigga im talking about their scale. Yes they have bigger ccv than ENOGU, but everything else are similar in size (not to mentioned many of those views are EOPs). To call them 2nd to Kamisubaki is too much when they rarely got invited to events.

>>21022939

>>21022946
Wait that Strawberryfag actually got off scot-free?

>>21022755
What, no, Nijisanji made it big right from its very beginning in early 2018. .Live didn't crash until late 2019 and then Asacoco picked a lot of the disillusioned up and converted them to Holo watchers.

Anyone keeping track of the neo porte guys? Yui hit 11k for her current apex stream if vstats is to be believed

>>21023007
in entertainment, the only drama that can kill a guy's career is rape/rape allegations/anything involving children

>>21023048
>can kill a guy's career is rape/rape allegations/anything involving children
Kek hollywood exists anon.

>>21021098
>waves
>generations
same difference

>>21022962
>not to mentioned many of those views are EOPs
>they rarely got invited to events
What the fuck are you even doing in the numbers thread, this sounds exactly like nijinigger coping that Nijisanji is ACKSHUALLY bigger than Hololive because... Show me a bigger group than them other than Kamitsubaki with fucking numbers instead of cope

Watame waiting room atm is lower than the one for the new debut

>>21023024
Replying to myself but I just noticed how ironic my use of "disillusioned" here was. That's how it felt at the time anyway. Management clearly had its issues too but nobody could have known what a piece of work Tama was.

>>21023090
i'll admit i don't keep up with that shit much now but have there been any that bounce back from what i mentioned?

>>21023007
Yeah, he let the issue pass for a few days, the company made a statement, then he apologize and talk about gaining the public trust back.

>>21023124
If the new debut mogs Watame's outfit, HoloID3 is going to be cursed.

>>21022940
Towa somehow managed to get 2 runs with one of them a homer in that bullshit baseball game for a new peak of 22.8k then her OBS died lol

FUCKING SUSAN FIX YOUR FUCKING SHIT

>>21023124
Well towa, okakoro, ymd and fbk are holding at least 40k viewers to funnel

>>21023238
Watame outfit is in 20 minutes, will any of those end before it ?

>>21023135
does dan schnieder counts?

>>21023135
>have there been any that bounce back from what i mentioned
Roman Polanski. Boozed up and butt raped a 13 years old girl, got tried and convicted.
> In 1977, Polanski was arrested and charged with drugging and raping a 13-year-old girl. As a result of a plea bargain, he pleaded guilty to the lesser offence of unlawful sex with a minor.
>In 1978, upon learning that the judge planned to reject his plea deal and impose a prison term instead of probation, he fled to Paris.
>As a result, Polanski is a fugitive from the U.S. criminal justice system.
Here is the catch
>After fleeing to Europe, Polanski continued directing. His other critically acclaimed films include Tess (1979), The Pianist (2002), The Ghost Writer (2010), Venus in Fur (2013), and An Officer and a Spy (2019).
>During his career Polanski has received five Oscar nominations, winning the Academy Award for Best Director in 2003 for The Pianist.

Perks of being a tribe’s member, the fact people don’t even know about this shows how much power Hollywood wields over the public discourse

>>21023120
Re:Act

SUSAAAAN STOP CULLING 4CHAN.

>>21023259
Fubuki yes.Towa probably. The other two I doubt it.

https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1507302312422768640
RIP Marine's voice (again)

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

>>21023370
This retarded hag never learn does she

>>21023370
Is anyone honestly surprised at this point?

>>21023370
fucking marine, go for the surgery for the love of god. JUST DO IT

>>21023370
this fucking retarded hag

>>21023370
my PekoMarine offcollab . . .

>>21023370
Her throat is completely fucked isn't it? I consider myself at least half an Ichimin so this kinda hurts. She really needs to take care of it somehow.

>>21023428
why is she delaying the surgery now? holofes is done. no chance of another sankisei live

>>21023370
At this point someone should force her to take the surgery. Also I think she was doing a character voice as well? Quit it

>>21023449
>She likely needs that surgery. She should also take the Suisei path and adjust her voice to something easier.

>>21023370
How did this begin? It's been this way for months now.

>>21023007
Its easier to not get fucked if you have a dick

>>21023488
Her original community post about it was like 6 months ago.

>>21023486
Who are you quoting anon? Also, yeah I agree, she needs the surgery and she needs to somehow change the voice she uses to suit streaming.

2 yachts has bought Towa above the Chloe peak.

>>21023488
>>21023508
I seriously don't know why she refuse to take that surgery. It directly related to your job, and most importantly YOUR HEALTH, why wouldn't anyone take it?

>>21023521
Shouldn't have been a quote.

>>21023556
She could be worried about complications like it ruining her voice permanently. Sad thing is it seems like it's bad enough she may not have much choice at this point to just try it.

>>21023347
Not vsingers, and besides Riot is bigger than them now when Cocoa, Saki and Iori all regularly get 4 digit utawakus and Re:Act just has Leona and a bunch of shitters

>>21023556
It's probably something retarded like thinking that she'd lose her audience if she gets sidelined for months. Marine, for the love of God, you have the box to fall back on. You could be gone for the next 6 months and I guarantee that you'd get a Miko tier return if you want to. Just get the damn surgery already you dumb hag!!!

>>21023556
still has a small "you guys might forget about me if I take a break" mentality.
She might find Migo to be amazing because she managed to retain her audience but never realize her own audience is willing to wait for her as well...

>>21023556
Aki took like three months to recover from her own surgery so I think she's worried about taking yet another extended break

>>21023649
>>21023670
dumb hag doesn't realize she's basically been keeping the audience waiting for 6 months already. They will actually start to get fed up if they feel she's not doing what she should to return properly.

>>21023649
>>21023670
I mean, to be fair even Migochi, beloved as she was, feared this. She was basically forced at gunpoint to take the surgery and she was super anxious about it. Hell even then she did a ton of work during her break to ensure she had her audience, with the little diary entries she posted. I imagine Marine could conceivably pull off the same thing but I'm sure it's still kind of scary to pull the trigger on it.

So cat, dog and La+ streaming over the reveal? That will hurt numbers a lot.

marine has got a new expensive new song mv to release, she'd only take a break after that. But that would be a great last video to keep collecting her views while shes gone

7k waiting for a Holo outfit reveal is extremely low, even for this our and what looks to be a 30 min reveal.

Could it be event fatigue?
4 gens and one big convert in 1 month?

I didn't see what sheep's waiting room ended up at, anyone get it?

Tbf Miko came back at the best period of hololive, when myth was a giant. She basically get a second debut buff from her hiatus.

>>21023841
Please no, we all remember what happened last time Watame had a disappointing event...

>>21023841
she could have at least pushed it to weekend lol. If people have little time to spare, they are gonna pick watching the debut later today rather than an outfit reveal

https://youtu.be/D_X9n5GjVTc
Claire-sensei 3D debut

Pekora is doing mariokart, probably with intent on funnelling it to Zeta's debut.

>>21023841
I'm guessing the announcement got overshadowed by ID debuts.
Even now, they had to take down the ID debut sticky for Watame, and just 5 mins before the stream instead of the usual 2-5 hours (I imagine taking down Uproar might have caused another minor yab)

>>21023841
She kinda dropped the costume on short notice and it doesn't seem like Korone and Laplus are going to end for the costume.

Whoever predicted 85k yesterday was insane anyways because Watame today is not the same as Watame in May 2021, but she might not even get 50k today as it stands.

>>21023695
Aki took a month ish for her voice surgery iirc. She got it done at the start of the year and came back right at the tail end of the ARK dominance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxqZPnAgi5Y
Come watch cute sheep

>>21023932
Sorry anon, Yuka is on stage atm

>>21023486
Even Suisei still has regular check-up for her throat.

>>21023949
Who?

https://youtu.be/-RArAxB7ncQ
Emperor Forte is live

>>21023900
Wait what, why is she singing copyrighted songs? She's singing Toxic right now.

Guys please save watame from going berserk and watamaging the new debut.

>>21023921
May 2021 was a special situation for everyone. All of them were performing higher than expected because of it.

so, ninji gold?

>14K
That's...

>>21021014
Finana created the server and she's a holo reject. Why do you think she uses gen?
>>21020965
Reimu actually leaked discord for the first time. Previously it was Enna, Petra and Nina.

Was late starting, this is what I got.

>>21023809
kek Okayu and Korone just lost, which would be a good time to end and funnel, but they started a new queue instead, 3 minutes after Watame's stream started.
Laplus also appears to have no intention of stopping any time soon.

>>21023967
i thought it was the kanae clone today, did they change it

>>21023964
>>21021516

>>21023969
it's covered by JASARC

>>21023969
>>21023900
Watch me as I report for copyrighted songs

>>21023975
Golden week + combo hype from JP + EN

>>21023906
Master of funneling

>>21024016
Fuck you anon!

>>21024012
>JASRAC
???
Jasrac covers only JP songs?

>>21024009
Seems like it, he's debuting in an hour

>>21024016
based anon!

>>21023885

>>21023964
A highschool brat

>>21023998
It's a shame since she'd stop for them. The box...

>>21024062
WATAMAGE PLEASE SPARE THE HOLO ID

>>21023900
>>21024016
>Watch me as I report for copyrighted songs
NO! DON'T!

>>21023967
It's not bora...

we're gonna get watamage'd...

>>21024041
The Karafun method, maybe?

>>21023949
If you don't watch WATAMAGE, she's gonna curse your oshi

fuck, deploy all the counter mages, the sheep witch is gonna get mad over this again

>>21023556
the surgery itself seems terrifying.

>>21023998
I honestly think this was a sudden thing and Watame wanted to use the holofes + holoID hype to get some good numbers for her reveal. Which might be why a lot of holos are streaming over it, since it wasn't originally supposed to be there and they were notified too late to change their schedules.

>>21024158
SPARE MY OSHI WATAMAGE, SHE RESPECITS AND FUNNELS EVENT STREAMS AAAAAAA.

>>21023921
>Watame today is not the same as Watame in May 2021
As a Watamate I hate how true this is, as much as I still love her and her streams it really feels like she lost all her drive after the sololive and is just coasting along

>>21024098
Yeah the box is dead for costumes it seems. Feels bad because Watame is a mega Okakoro fan too.
Very unlikely that the JP streams starting in an hour are going to stop for the HoloID debuts too.

To be fair, the hype for this Watame costume is extremely low on social media. Most people don't even know it's happening and there's no event to wrap it up with to hype it. Last time, it was Golden Week and they announced 11 Holo costumes at once.

>>21024158
AAAAAA MERCY WATAMAGE!!!! I WILL NOW WATCH YOUR OUTFITS REVEAL

20k sheep get

>>21024208
Alternatively it isn't a proper new outfit and is something like 5th gen's outfit

>>21024213
Fuck off, schizo.

NIJI GOLD
NIJI GOLD

>>21024213
her sololive is relatively successful right. Especially for a channel like her size.

>>21023841
Could it be the fact that Watame just isn't as popular as people make her out to be?
Evidence shows unironic natural recline

>>21023967
Damn, she sounds cool.
But she's doing the same thing of having replay active and with every lag loses viewers.

Also, damn Claire actually lost 12k subs this past year. 200 live viewers for your 3D live is depressing

>>21024041
She is sponsored by the State goverment of New York

>>21024124
Bora likely is actually studying if she's not debuting on neo porte and didn't came back as indie. Not all KR graduated for the internal problems after all.

>>21024041
no, not just jp songs. they have cross license with international rights management groups

>>21024213
>just coasting along
Nah, this is fine. Better to relax a bit than keeping that kind of frantic pace until she crash-and-burn.

>>21024041
You can check here. Toxic is there so it should be good, I think
https://www.jasrac.or.jp/ejhp/database.html

>>21024213
Watame has been on cruise control mode for months now. Minecraft being dead right now hasn't helped either.

>>21024239
Maybe have a look at the numbers and streams for once before sperging out, retard.

>>21024253
It was very successful, but you could tell she was burning out from releasing so many originals so quickly. It's not surprising that she'll wind back after an event like that.

>>21024237
She already got one of those.

What's with the overlaps? Matsuri is in a collab, the other two?

actually, what were the last outfits besides the gen5 accesories?

>>21024239
No you fuck off
>>21024253
Yeah it did well. I hope another one is in the works because I want to see her at her best with something to aim for

>>21024244
With what?

Kuzuha still sub 10k WTF

>>21024329
Yeah, she overdid the release rate. Suisei, who's pretty much a vsinger in all but name, had cut down on her streaming hours way more than Watame did and also had a slower song release pace to not end up in the state Watame did.

>>21024305
They post that all the time, but have demonstrated they don't know what's happening in her streams. Shitposter, shitposting.

>>21024383
what the fuck? what is he doing?

>>21024383
Nijifags are watching the Emperor now!

so... matsuri, okakoro, and la+ going to get watamage'd huh

>>21024364
The new year kimono?

>>21024276
She sounds like a miscast, she doesn't have the confidence and presence to properly play an emperor character. She needed to be someone like Laplus, this is just generic soft-spoken girl

>>21024395
ER

>>21024402
p sure mel's outfit happened after that

>>21024364
Pekora?

>>21024383

>>21023900
>192k subs
>220 watching

>>21024383
he didn't use his iconic thumbnail that's why

>>21024354
Either they pulled a Hachaama and didn't know it was happening, which isn't great, or they did know and they just don't care, which is even worse.
Apex and Smash have natural ending points too (when they lose) but they're not ending so I think it's the latter.

>>21024403
AIIIEEEEEEEE, NO MORE CULLS WATAMAGE

did ID3 not get culled at all?

>>21024372
dont reply to the schizo

>>21024370
>S-she's just coasting!
Yet has had over half a dozen big recordings since then. You should just open with how you don't know what you're talking about.

Everyone should watch watame in case watamage casts misfortune on you all.

>>21024305
She's still streaming as much as ever though, it's just not content that people want to watch

>>21024383
Kuzuha was at 15k already at this time of his last stream.
Weird numbers all around so far today.

>>21024438
peko happened before new year

>>21024403
Are they all getting bf yabe? Za Hando 2.0? Please watamage be kind!

>>21024447
If brave group didnt fucked up, you'd have kneeled to her instead of coco

>>21024497
Youtube is still having a lot of hiccups

>>21024482
>recording for more songs which will underperform
I wonder how she doesn't get tired of it all

Today is friday btw....

>>21024458
Knowing Watame, it's most likely just a case of her going, "No no no, you don't have to stop for me!" with a buttload of insistence until they just caved in.

>>21024478
Come on anon, I want to laugh at whatever he manages to say will win nijigold

>>21024354
usually when theres already a big event for the day, if a holo also wants to schedule another for the same day, they tell everybody its ok to overlap, because two cuts is too much. Mori has done so a few times and talked about it (that she told everyone that it was ok to overlap her)

>>21024489
>4chan is down
>anons still insist on not watching
DO NOT DOUBT THE MAGE!

>>21024534
You're doing a poor job of not coming off like a schizo.

https://www.twitch.tv/milkyqueen_idol
Oh yeah mori is on twitch with her indie pal

>>21024580
That will be the highest she'll ever get on her career

>>21024578
Are you implying that her songs besides My Song have been doing great?

>>21024617
wrong, EN 3 is

What are normal numbers for an outfit reveal like the sheep?

>>21024257
As a Watamelate.
Yes, her numbers have been on a decline since summer 2021, when she invested a lot of time in Song making.
The sololive solidified her audience, but she's slowly been losing stray viewers in her regular slot. Many didn't watch her for the music anyway.

It doesn't help that on her singer route, she's separate from the other big holo singers. Suisei and Kanata straight up said they don't know to sing any new Watame songs when requested.
Her closest friends outside of Botan and BKTR now are Iofi, Kiara and Council... which makes most of her potential audience not even awake at this hour.
I love the sheep, but she hasn't been the focus for anything on the JP side for a long time. Still expected more viewers at least from her slight shorts incline.

>>21024453
the fuck is this abomination?
no wonder his tourist viewers aren't tuning in.

>ID3 and stars will get cursed by ccvid

They really should schedule a watame reveal after big events.

>>21024656

50k is the floor

>>21024482
The last time she was recording constantly was last spring and summer when she was at her peak, if she has enough time to spam 9 hour SC reading zatsus she's able to do buff content instead
>>21024578
That was a different anon, I'm the one you first called a schizo

>>21024625
I don't expect everyone to be Suisei and then shitpost about her not trying after her solo live.

>>21024684
I thought scheduling is up to the talent themselves

>>21024580
Isn't she usually barely above 2view level?

>>21024672
You don't need to samefag, anon.

>>21024656
if you want a reference of the lastest one for JP, Mel got 29k for hers, same day as the EN kimonos, after that it's just been accessories

did NewPort waste all their debut hype already? Maybe dragging it out for a whole week wasn't the brightest of the ideas..

>>21024735
Last I checked she's a low 3 view

KING 10K!
>HATERS AND LOSERS BTFO!

>>21024693
>The last time she was recording constantly was last spring and summer when she was at her peak, if she has enough time to spam 9 hour SC reading zatsus she's able to do buff content instead
If you're the one I called a schizo and can say the above either you really don't watch her or you're an EOP.

>>21024796
maybe streaming 100 hours of elden ring wasn't the greatest of ideas king...

>>21024796

Not for nothing, and I don’t mean to come off like a hater or anything, but these are some junk ass numbers for Laplus. For how many viewers JP has as a whole, I don’t think 2 overlapping streams is enough to make her drop down to what’s now 12k. Is it her near non-existent streaming habits or something? This isn’t even a debuff stream. Isn’t it pvp with viewers in SSB?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdv6l2FaEu0
Sanallites are eating good these days

Watame's close to 30k while still going through fan drawings

>>21024862
Not tonight King...

>>21024862

Lui and Subaru are starting. It seems like sheep has given the ok permission to overlap her.

>>21024818
>E-EOP!
Yeah okay fuck off I'm not engaging with you anymore, I'll still watch her when we're the only two viewers she has but I don't want that to happen and it sounds like you do, or at least don't care if it does.

>>21024986
Dammit watambe, you're too timid

HoloFes was utter a failure when it didn't even incline JP and EN. Watch how NijiFes at the end of this year will fuck Holo up.

>>21024889
she keeps doing that stupid shit of announcing streams then cancelling them, not keeping a weekly schedule and starting streams right in the middle of a slot instead of the start

La+ 1 hour is over

Lap just ended

>>21024785
everyone's watching CR get stomped right

Watame 30k get

>>21024889

It's not just her. All of the JP branch is reclining.

Do not engage with the samefagging schizo

>>21025032
All hail the great and powerful sheep

>>21024889

Lacunny weird ass streaming habit is killing her

>>21024949

>>21024889
We're in the "slowdown" phase mate.
A lot of regular viewers experienced the "climax" of this arc with the HoloFes, so a big portion of the core audience is resting right now - tourists taking up the spot.
They will slowly come back over the next 1-2 months, this happens in almost all major events.

>>21024986
Don't worry as a nousagi ill watch this sheep until pegors goes live.

>>21025001
Anon, she's been inclining this month and you're showing a general unawareness of what she's been talking about when you claim she's "lost her drive". You sperging out about that isn't a defense.

>>21025018

>>21025032
might incline to 40k once the reveal starts

>>21025018
You tell them sis!

>>21025101
I agree but frogposters get the rope

>>21025018