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3 days and they are already forgotten

>> No.21423926

3 day is a record for an id branch, usually they die at birth

>> No.21423971

Good. Holobronies can go back to ignoring the IDs and just watching EN and meanwhile I can enjoy my comfy ID VTubers.

>> No.21423987

But I liked indonesian Fauna.

>> No.21423994

>>21423765
I'll get to watching Zeta's debut at some point. Any day now.

>> No.21424024

i know this is shitposting but i do wonder is there an issue with having so mainly gens on top of each other?

if the vtubing audience is growing as a whole then it isnt a problem but i always wonder

>> No.21424127

Do any of them have Reine-tier english? I might give them a view of two if that is the case. I only watched the blue girl's debut, but she was too ESL

>> No.21424144

>>21423765
Still doing better than the fungus gang

>> No.21424286

Why do ID girls have such shit taste in games? Macchia and Reine are literally the only IDs I'ver ever seen play kino games that aren't FotM

>> No.21424319

>>21424127
Zeta's English is good but she doesn't use it as much. Kaela is good with a bit heavier accent but I never miss any of it. Also Kaela was using English like 90%+ of the time in her solo streams, join us at /mhm/

>> No.21424336

>>21424024
You aren't supposed to care about every branch, the only relevant new gen for Holo fans to be launched in the past 1.5 years was HoloX. All those other groups are for niches catering to non-Holo fans who still can have some money extracted from them.

>> No.21424378

>>21424336
idiot brain take

>> No.21424394

>>21423765
literally nothing stands out
average girls who don't even speak english for most of the time
dead on arrival

>> No.21424454

>>21424394
You didn't watch anything other than debuts then.

>> No.21424501

>>21423765
forgotten by /vt/ and i'm happy

>> No.21424594

>>21424127
Gray-haired girl is probably one step below Reine's level from what I saw in debut. No idea how much English she's currently using but in a month when her numbers drop she is fluent enough to transition to EN-lite like Reine did.

>> No.21424798

>>21424594
kaela did that stream one lmao

>> No.21425123

>>21424336
What are you basing this on?

>> No.21425209

I'm waiting for them to convert to EN2.5. It will happen eventually. If they're going to become eceleb beggers, they'll need to get on that anyway.

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>>21424286
>Implying

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>>21423765
>mogging mori at JP primetime
>forgotten
try again

>> No.21428632

>>21427160
>it takes 3 of them to beat 1 person
Strange definition you have of "mogging" there indog.

>> No.21428677

>>21428632
Split streams, different viewers in every stream. Cmon you numberfags should know this by now.

>> No.21428790

>>21428677
deadbeats are mentally ill so what do you expect

>> No.21428803

>>21427160
Deadbeats... I don't feel good..

>> No.21428882

The only reason there was any buzz at all is because they hired someone to do a slutty dance with moona's model at the concert and it made people think ID mattered for a few short days.

>> No.21429064

>>21428632
POV split 3 ways: debuff
Speaking ID: debuff
Raft: debuff

Shouldn’t have attempted your cope

>> No.21429098

>>21423926
Kek

>> No.21430539

>>21423765
I didn't even check them out... I'll get around to it eventually

>> No.21430991

stub:no /How can we save/i; boards:vt
stub:no /How do we save/i; boards:vt
stub:no /How do we get/i; boards:vt
stub:no /What went wrong with/i; boards:vt
stub:no /now that the dust has settled/i; boards:vt
stub:no /We can all agree that/i; boards:vt
stub:no /can we all agree/i; boards:vt
stub:no /what went wrong/i; boards:vt
stub:no /what's the verdict/i; boards:vt
stub:no /flop/i; boards:vt
stub:no /It's not supposed to be like this/i; boards:vt

op:only /apologize/i; boards:vt
op:only; /[\w]{8}-[\w]{4}-[\w]{4}-[\w]{4}-[\w]{12}.*/i; boards:vt

>> No.21435456

>>21430991
>NOOOOOOO WORDS HURT MUH FEELINGS
this is not reddit, stop being thin skinned faggot.

>> No.21435607

>>21435456
>He's seething this hard because no one wants to read his ESL posts
Kek

>> No.21436346

>>21424394
Hololive EN exists, expecting ID to speak english please neck your self

>> No.21436413

>>21423926
Don't they eat their babies? It gives them super powers or something mystic.

>> No.21436496

kobo
kaela
forgot the grey one

>> No.21436598

>>21423765
Apparently not enough for you to shitpost, Nijifag.

>> No.21436654

>>21436346
Come back in a month and tell me what they speak for the majority of their streams anon. It's gonna be english cause no one in your indog country will give them enough money or support to be successful. The only reason ID exists is because of their ESL skills being better than the Jap branch

>> No.21436783

I only listened to one of them for like 30 seconds snd hated her voice and accent so I ignored the rest of the gen, I don't know their names

>> No.21437029

>>21436654
Sure Superchat is more noticeable because you can see them on stream
Now I'm gonna tell you something that they have local donation called socialbuzz if you check them out there's a lot of ID's fans donate to them more than you know, sometimes these people. Donate when they're not stream at all
Now please be smart dont make your self looks like a retard

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>>21437029
Look man, good ESL honestly, but ill lay some truth on you ok? Your countries yearly minimum wage is something like 1k USD, a minimum wage worker in the us is making more than that a month. The short economic calculus is that other English viewers have more money to donate, so while your native fans might support your Oshi, on average donations from overseas will always exceed, but several multiples, the donations from native fans, even if the overseas donators are less in number.

Luckily you seem to have a decent grasp of english so hopefully you can enjoy your ID branch even when the sell out and start speaking english for our convenience

>> No.21437849

>>21429064
what buffs are being removed here, anyway?
>de-buff
>implying removal of a buff
>ye olde "nobody has tastes different from mine" argumentation
weak. I don't even have time for these chicks and I feel compelled to mock you.

>> No.21438032

>>21436654
As expected of 4chan. You don't even watched streams or clips.
Zeta? She will 100% pandering to EOP.
Kaela? I don't know and I don't care.
Kobo? This is why I know you never watch their streams. 75% Kobo will still pander to her Indonesian viewer. It's interesting to see what choice will she make. If she starts pander to EOP, high chance she will fail, because she always having fun with her Indonesian "kids" viewer and her streaming style(and meme) is aimed toward them.

>> No.21438097

>>21436496
she has the same last name than tall penguin from madagascar

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>>21437410
Don't forget English also attracts non-Indonesian SEA. Reine's members for example are a selection of Filipino, Viet, Singaporean, Malaysian, and other SEA vtubers, not to mention Aussies. It's not just because her times are good for them, but because she has streams that talk about the south east asian immersion of living, and does cultural and culinary exchanges often enough.

There is no future in Indonesia.

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>>21428882

>> No.21438721

>>21437849
peak autism

>> No.21438862

>>21438175
Frankly in those hours with that level of income on a global scale, broadening to appeal to all of SEA with english is the only way for the girls to be a positive to the parent company. Hololive is doing business in dollars and yen, chump change in Indonesia isn't worth investing in the talent or the backstage management

>> No.21439057
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21439057

Just like the Nijifemales!

>> No.21439086

>>21438862
Indonesians are also giant faggots. They have sociobuzz but they still chose to SC in ARS.

>> No.21442853

>>21439057
What's the deal with this?

>> No.21443235

>>21423765
None of them speak english well or even speak it badly in an endearing way, that was the biggest mistake Cover made. Meanwhile, Moona is popular because she sounds like a retard and Ollie is popular because she speaks perfect english. Cover needed to go for the extremes here.

>> No.21443740

>>21443235
Cover already have EN branch, why the fuck they add more competition among EN talents? the fact that they picked Kobo with heavy local accent means they tried to grasp local market

>> No.21445266

>>21443740
Timezone and reaching out to the dark asian crowd. Even if Kobo has an accent she's going to stream primarily in english

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21446079

>>21424286
Last time I check, tft isn't a fotm, anon

>> No.21446826

>>21445266
>timezone
what is VOD?
>Kobo
Kobo speaks in local meme and will lose its humour and meaning if she translates it to english, also people already filtered by vtuber with less thick accent, no way they want to listen to heavier accent. Those are 2 things that make her unique, without those, she just another less funny Gura for EOP

>> No.21446905

>>21442853
3 Gura killers vs an indonesian who

>> No.21446956

>>21446905
Were they really hyped to be Gura killers? Holy shit.
Well being in Niji is a huge debuff. If there's going to be a Gura killer it'd be from within Hololive.

>> No.21447206

>>21446956
Always.
Every single nijiEN wave (so every 2nd week or so)
it doesn't help they're not managed very well. Also leaking that /vt/ is your 3rd most visited time is a bad karma.

>> No.21447268

>>21447206
wait who did that? who leaked their browser?

>> No.21447279

>>21446956
>Were they really hyped to be Gura killers?
Yes, Chumpedos call everyone a Gura killer as a joke retard. How haven't you caught up by now?

>> No.21447288

>>21447268
Reimu

>> No.21447306

>>21442853
Deflection.

>> No.21447329

>>21439057
Millie is basically a Holo

>> No.21447337

>>21447206
Moona and Risu both lurk 4chan and they do fine. They aren't too vocal about it, but they do alright

>> No.21447347

>>21447279
i'm pretty sure the first NijiEN wave was the phrase unironically used. When they are flopped, faggots here use that phrase whenever a new wave/gen debuted

>> No.21447392

I love this take. It means less retards from /vt/ shit posting my beloved Zeta. Please completely forget about them so I can have Zeta just for me.

>> No.21447894

>Indog never superchat
We got Socialbuzz which is more better than 30℅ susan tax
Even moona who be least got SC
Can afford High Quality MV and stuff.
Even they're ID, iam sure this girls earned more money than 99℅ faggots /here/

>> No.21448056

fucking caveman english

>> No.21448185

>>21424024
I know a lot of you 2020 newfags only watch Hololive and treat it as a box where you must watch every single person in Hololive but that's not how vtubing is supposed to work. It's 100% normal to not watch everyone and just pick and choose the ones you like. There's nothing wrong with debuting lots of gens quickly if it increases the likelihood of someone finding their oshi and throwing money at her. Everyone else is kind of irrelevant, most of these "box" Hololive viewers are greynames who never donate so Cover doesn't care about them. They're targeting gachikoi who fall in love with a single girl and throw all their money at her.

>> No.21448218

>>21423765
Tuned into zeta for a bit but she only spoke orcish so no thanks.

>> No.21448254

>bait thread
What's going on?
Did something happened?

>> No.21448419

>>21448218
Check her Apex stream vod. I'm pretty sure she'll do EN/JP only in a few weeks. People claiming Kobo will start speaking EN are fucking delusional. Kobo can't speak a language she doesn't know. This is not a problem with Zeta who has clear EN.

>> No.21448475

>>21423765
How could you remember them if they are forgotten?

>> No.21448698

>>21448254
it's because nothing happened

>> No.21448809

>>21423765
ID2 also tried to stick to mostly bahasa when they were new. Sooner or later they'll make the jump to mostly-english.

Kobo isn't great at speaking it but doesn't realize that broken english is cute in its own way and that it works totally fine for her character, who knows really. Zeta can speak it really well, about the same as Reine (very light accent) so it's more arbitrary on her part, and Kaela already mostly speaks it.

For context Ollie was really bahasa-heavy when she was new, but her wanting more attention from other big names led her to more and more English usage because it's the biggest/most supportive audience but also the place where she gets the most attention from bigger senpai.

>> No.21449339

>>21448809
Kobo will never going to pander EN
ID2 became irrelevant since council debuted, they don't watch IDs anymore, their ccv became 1k-2k at best, most indonesian don't care about them anymore since they only speak English and there's a bad sentiment towards them as well
meanwhile kobo instantly became indonesia favorite vtuber right now, just look at her chat last stream, it's 90% IDs viewers at 4-5k ccv at jp primetime.. that's something ID1 and ID2 could never get

>> No.21449826

>>21449339
They still need money to operate or else they may got axed like NijiID
Gen 2 bring a lot of it they're at the top, even Anya

>> No.21450173

>>21423765
Good, they deserved it for pandering to local fans

>> No.21450208

>>21449826
that's why they trying to pander local viewers, retard. They're trying to get sponsor from local business. No way they can get sponsor from international business like EN or JP, and local business wont pay them to advertise their product unless they can get more attention from local viewer, unless each of you EOP fags who watch them donate $100 every stream, there's no way SC alone can pay their salary.

>> No.21450327

>>21449826
Anya is literally a waste of slot.

>> No.21450411

>>21448419
I'll try again in 1-2 months and judge from there. Usually new arrivals need that much to settle in properly and I don't have enough of a saviour complex to suffer through the beginning phase where they just check off the hololive list of "things that'll probably work out for you". I'm willing to bet that boob envy, yuri baiting and tee-hee I'm so silly/clumsy are gonna happen in their first 3 streams or so.

>> No.21450456

>>21450327
>waste of slot
she still earn more SC than the biggest "liver" of nijiID, hana macchia. and she's not even a top earner like Ollie.

>> No.21450930

>>21436654
I'm wondering about their future, they're talented but also cursed by being Indon. It's already hurt to watch ID1&2 stream chat filled with greynigger.

>> No.21450995

>>21449339
>ID2 became irrelevant
They're literally ID's lifeline and top donation magnets. If they flopped back then, gen 3 wouldn't exist.
>most indonesian don't care about them anymore
I wish, their chats are still full of indonesian greyniggers

>> No.21451033

>>21423765
>already forgotten
>makes thread about them

>> No.21451121

>>21450995
That depends. Reine's streams outside of FOTM are almost all green.

>> No.21451335

>>21430991
thanks, this is actually really useful. the first part anyway.

>> No.21451393

>>21446905
kek

>> No.21452083

>>21427160
Mogging mori isn’t really a difficult task to be fair.

>> No.21452402

>>21427160
They're doing good, but it's literally their first week. Ollie dropped to like 2-3k average in about 2 weeks. Only then will we have a good idea how ID3 is doing. I'd think they'd be at least as good as ID2 but we'll see. At the very least Kobo is extremely promising.

>> No.21452491

>>21428632
this is quite good, ID only collabs tend to get super unfriendly for EOPs/ESLs that aren't indogs.

>> No.21452494

>>21427160
Mogging Mori's gameplay streams these days isn't hard even kiara does it depending on the game, because she's absolutely fucking garbage at the games she's been playing lately and it's painful to watch. Only true dead beats™ stay around for that shit.

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