/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>2246685
Mori and Ina are funnier. But Artia was great too

>>2246685
Watch out, wolf warriors can bite.

yeah it was really funny how she got her entire branch fired because she was a sperg

Have you tried making a thread about the CNs without putting low-effort bait into it?

>Be Artia
>Promote yourself in /jp/
>Noone gives a shit about you
>Become a holo
>Your gay discord starts raiding threads to promote your shit streams
>Anons eventually find about your past life
>Private everything
>Say that twitch is a secret thing and the manager doesn't know
>Manager eventually knows and butt slaps you
>You manage to stream on twitch again
>Changs use VPNs to watch you
>Get shadowbanned
>Start having a meltdown on twitter
>Make a stream where you send a petition to twitch
>You are so retarded you show your IP
>Make another stream having another meltdown
>THIS IS NOT A JOKE THIS IS NOT A JOKE THIS IS NOT A JOKE
>You declare that you are going to get your genmates on twitch
>They go to youtube instead
>Get cucked and ridiculed by the unicorn
>Try really hard to pander to /jp/ culture
>They still don't give a shit about you
>Try really hard to pander to twitch culture becoming a subhuman goblin
>Noone gives a shit about you
>Manage to win a League tournamente against nijis, giving you some new outfits
>Orange woman says bad word
>Get mad
>Start referring to the situation in the most passive agressive way possible
>Watch the wolf warrior alongside the Siren
>In all of this, another company approaches you so you can keep your models going """indie"""
>You accept, going on a stream telling that
>You comment about an Aqua song that got leaked
>You ended up breaking some rules with that
>You can't keep your avatar neither your genmates
>All of you are getting canned
>More leaks about how you are a piece of trash appears
>You have a meltdown on stream, considering the chance to put a bullet on your head
>Meanwhile, hololive members see your house in ARK and start laughing at you
>Get graduated
>You make a face reveal stream
>You are ugly as shit
>Your faggots try to get into /wvt/ but just like in /jp/ they get bullied nonstop
>/vt/ is created
>your discord finally has a containment thread where they can delude themselves how nothing of the above happened
>Despite all the shilling they do, you can't get better numbers than a swedish menhera

hecatia is her new name. go watch her on twitch if you care so much

>>2246772
Some day I'll understand how anyone could be a fan of someone like that.

>>2246923
Delusion and/or ignorance.

>>2246685
literally who lmao

>>2246772
You know, I don't even really dislike her anymore. She's just a kid who grew up on the internet, and like a typical zoomer, thought she was more clever than she was. Complete with that feeling of invincibility that being young and on the internet gives you. Scrambling to gather the pieces when that illusion is shattered. I honestly wish her the best and hope she actually learned a lesson from all of this.

>>2246772
Based pasta

>>2249106
That's a good take anon

>>2246772
I don't see a single incriminating thing on this that warrants all the hatred she gets. You are quite literally tone policing because she didn't cry for "orange woman" as you put it. Most of it is you being a passive aggressive bitch, isn't that the greatest irony?

>>2249310
And yes if you share the pasta, you are responsible for its content. Own it faggots.

>Yogurt reincarnated for this
...

>>2246772
>>Meanwhile, hololive members see your house in ARK and start laughing at you
what is this about

>>2246772
What sort of person do you have to be to enjoy watching her?

>>2246736
This has to be the most retarded rrat of all. No one can actually explain how she is responsible for anything. The branch was fired because of Bilibili pulling all Hololive support, that was the reason. What movies she watched or tweets she wrote that weren't supportive enough of Big Red for your tastes don't have anything to do with the branch closing.

>>2246772
Sad if true.

>your mom's gay
How did management let her get away with that?

>>2246772
post face

>>2213439
back to your containment Zhang, Xi needs his hourly dick polishing and you will serve him for the people

I fucking love Artia like you wouldn't believe.
Still not subbing to her new persona.

A shame Judas chose blind nationalism over human decency.

>>2260425
Not only that Anon, her discord also her problem too.

Some shit name " Whitell" built spamming Hololive discord from October last year and uppers level know about his shit but do nothing about it .

They even help him by shut everyone mouth who talk about this and called it as " rumor" without investigation.

If Artia really do not know any of this, that mean they chose spammer over their oshi's future.

Ex- Artia discord

>>2246685
A shame she destroyed herself due to her political ideology.
Whatever, I prefer not to have politics in my entertainment. I've been a comic book fan since the early 90's, and politics have not served them well.

>>2260373
I love Artia like you wouldn't believe, too. You're missing out by not subbing to Hecatia, she's still the best chuuba in the business for my money.

>>2249860
>Polka hops onto ARK to explore the server
>Sees sign
>Reads it silently at first and sees Artia on it
>Laughs a bit and moves on without saying anything at all about it.

>>2246685
If you truly care about her, just subscribe to her new persona.
Artia was funny, but Hecatia is cute and in HD.
Your thread as it is will only attract antis, however, that may be exactly what you are looking to.

>>2261522
To be honest, the only chuuba I like on twitch is Lumi the finnish wolfgirl (Who is actually one of the best chuuba's I have ever seen across two years at this point). Otherwise, I will stick to youtube where I get no ads and my enjoyable company chuubas.

>>2261522
Also, to correct myself, I'm not saying only the design is lovely, her voice and how she normally acts all together just makes a great character that is just really nice. Like, what other chuuba even has constant music transitions/consistency like her anymore.

>>2246685
No marbohls...

>>2246685
I enjoyed watching Artia, then I learned about all the behind the scenes shit

>>2246685
dont know who this bitch is, dont care. youre as bad as the Aloe niggers.

>>2263149
what exactly did they even do

>>2263376
She's with the antis that tried to take down Coco and Hachamaa for saying the Taiwan word

>>2263469
That's some cute guilt by association shit, but I have never seen any evidence she herself was involved with or encouraged any anti behavior like trolling streams with spam. Her crime seems to be not vocally taking the side of the people who were planning to fire her with no model. So i guess she was correct after all then.

>>2263548
If she just tell Whitell to stop spamming Coco and help to stop fucking drama.

She may be survive today

Her discord shot her in her head

>>2263548
By now you should expect people parroting a narrative they read online based on screenshots of dubious authenticity with seven degrees of separation translated by people they don't know from a language they don't understand.

>>2263772
They have 4 videos Anon.....

>>2250522
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>>2263683
No she fucking wouldn't, telling one anti off in public wouldn't have saved HoloCN None of the actions she could have taken or not taken would play any part in her fate. They were axed because they were worth less than Coco to the company. China was already pissed off at Cover itself and just wanted Hololive out. They were losing permissions left and right. The CN market became financially non-viable overnight. Firing Coco would just piss off the rest of the world possibly even more than China.

>>2263802
Yeah the four videos prove that a random shithead translator who is her discord channel hated Coco's guts and was in the same channel as some of the spammers. Doesn't mean Artia's in on it or nearly as guilty as people want her to be.

Q : Who killed Artia ?

A :

Hololive - No , they try their best to stop drama but failure.

Coco - No, it is just unfortunate event without any political intention.

Artia discord - Yes , they have a chance to save her and stop drama but never do it.

I really pity her if she really does not know anything.

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>>2246772
I couldn't care less about all that Taiwan drama crap. None of that matters anymore. But what I don't like about her is that her avatar looks too chinky for my taste. How do we de-chinkyfy her /vt/?

>>2263986
I won' t blame Artia anymore Anon

I am just pity her.

Her fanbase chose protect anti spammer who spam her' s coworker over Artia 's future and reputation.

I really feel bad for her

>>2246685
>A shame about what happened
Is it really tho?
>She was funnier and more entertaining than any of the EN girls
HA

>>2264232
>>She was funnier and more entertaining than any of the EN girls
I like the EN girls but this is just true. None of EN have made me laugh, Artia did regularly.

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FUCK OFF TO BILIBILI, YOU PIECE OF SHIT

>>2264466
Meds

goes to show that hectia general was just a place for you trannies to shitpost.
/ogg/ barely stays on the board as it is.

>>2264561
>meds
>take your meds schizo
>why wont he take his meds meds meds meds meds
>MEDS

>>2264466
Anon I just remind you

Whitell know Artia will got fired because his action but he not care.

Her discord knew what Whitell did but still not care or stop it.

The hard cold fact is....
" Artia' s death by her fandom"

>>2264709
kill yourself chang
everybody but the retarded red girl was a brainwashed bug

>>2264709
ogey zhang

>>2246685
You're right, watching her live mental breakdown on Bilibili was the best, no other Hololive member has ever gone full menhera like her.

>your favourite holo is (was) a backstabbing bitch
a feeling so complicated

>>2264974
can i have a link to this? everytime i search for artia's breakdown i get full streams and no timestamps to the parts where shes going crazy

>>2264898
>>2264915

She is a martyr who killed by her own fanclub.

>>2246685
Artia was really funny, but unfortunately she couldn't separate her politics from her work. My favorite moment is when she pretends to throw up while talking to chat. Honestly, I'd still check out her new shit if I wasn't so busy.

>>2265014
it's ok as long you pick up your shit fanbase go back to your communist platform and stop harassing your ex co-workers

>>2265248
BASED

>>2262318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF1gjKsL47s
Tia.....

>>2246685
and cuter.

>>2265060
The stream was nuked, even Artia wasn't retarded enough to leave it up after she blamed her fans and the nationalists for making things worse for the CN branch..

>>2265910
I'm kind of sad that I can't look at even a recording of that. I enjoy internet meltdowns.

>>2264466
KEK that “ hold hand”post from her, a hypocrite always has the most melodramatic words.

>>2246772
based

>>2246772
>"hololive members see your house in ARK and start laughing at you"
Give me the fucking link(s), I HAVE to see that shit, the sole thought of the jp girls laughing at Meltdown Gremlin dirt shack makes me rock hard, I NEED TO SEE IT IN ACTION!!!

>>2246685
If you unironically think this you're a smoothbrain underageb& twitchnigger who should be given a vacation until they turn 18

>>2246772
>swedish menhera
Am I losing a VTuber here or is this a rrat?

>>2264466
I'm not a zhang who can keep a grudge going for long, sorry anon. I've already seen a lot of shit and the best I can hope for is for all the people involved to have at least learned a life lesson from their experiences.

>>2267386
there is literally 0 hope for her
She lived overseas and still indulged in the CCP kool-aid willingly, she even admitted all she did was check the news from back home
It's like trying to brainwash an actual zombie to normalcy

two tongued bitches cant be funny or entertaining. I dont know how you drones can continue watching or supporting a lying lunatic.

>>2267411
but d00d she said poggers! and said choco sucks at singing! isn't that fucking epic! god so much better than EN who acknowledges Vshojo which is practically on the same level as the same garbage that Artia did!

>>2246772
Tldr she was a bumbling fool who got in over her head despite just wanting to fit in and be liked. It's actually kind of sad. The cn holos really were pitiable in retrospect. The one thing I regret most is that the English speaking chongs won't have amusing trainwreck collabs with the en girls and indogs, if only because I dread the upcoming en gens despite gen 0 and gen 1 not being awful.

What I'm worried most about isn't changs. It's that en may eventually get CN'd if one of ours turns out to be a serious unironic ideologues. I'd gladly take low iq inept nationalist snow gremlin and ground pound gremlin going pew pew any day over any woke fame chasing thot that might weasel her way into Tanigoro's dream of one day recruiting an all female esports team to play MLB 2K8.

If lines are ever drawn, I'd imagine the CN girls would've at least publicly stood with gen 1 for the sake of keeping up appearances. Now we'll just have to rely on the indos to hold the line if there's ever another intracompany dispute. I trust them, but having a couple more corporate allies (questionable loyalties aside) during a possible ENgeddon wouldn't have been a bad thing.

>>2267410
Eh who knows, I knew a bunch of people who were terrible little shits at that age too that changed for the better. Not watching her either way. Tried to once but I feel that there's a huge dissonance in how she tries to portray herself compared to her actual self that's just cringe instead of moe.

>>2267519
>get CN'd if one of ours turns out to be a serious unironic ideologues
what does this even mean
every single EN girl in holo is an SJW but at least they know better not to project their politics onto their vtuber character/into their career
Kiara's not that fucking stupid regardless of what people think

>>2267566
It means that I don't want to see Hololive EN to go the way of comics and movies, getting subverted and potentially axed in the worst case scenario. Going woke and broke is a real risk if they hire college indoctrinated graduates.

>>2267771
You realize since En1 success they've raised their requirements to even get past round 1 for Hololive right
They're not going to hire some 22 year old schmuck anymore, they're going to hire someone established who wants to establish themselves in a new medium

>>2267771
That's the worst case scenario:
>Some 100% political nut applies
>Manages to pass all her tests
>Actually talented but still a nut
>Never used her RL accounts for spewing stuff so Hololive Management can't find about her past and arguments
>But openly used throaway accounts for stuff and maybe even joined some movements
>Smart and crazy, holy fuck this is bad
>She is faking everything with the same set of skills your average chuuba uses for characterization regarding personality so everyone thinks she is just your average Hololive member with her respective gimmick and the like
>Debut
>/vt/ does their respective yada yada and watches streams of EN2 while burning through threads
>Time passes...
>Girl starts ramping up subscribers
>Hits a big milestone like 500,000 or the million, maybe more.
>Suddenly, starts slowly dropping some political hints during her celebration stream
>Few but noticeable, sounds like jokes.
>/vt/ thinks it's suspicious and a similar copypasta to this post gets replied several time in different threads
>No biggie, stream goes as usual
>weeks keep passing...
>Political commentaries start to slowly ramp up in tone
>Mostly on her chit chat streams
>/vt/ losing it every single time she spouts something risky or in support of X
>/hlg/ and /hlgg/ pretty much become unusable every single time she drops something on the table
>Hits another milestone or some RL event happens like a shooting or some other BS
>Condemns X on-stream and starts spouting some actual thoughts about whatever happened or she thinks should be cuz feelings and the like
>/vt/ melts like a fucking ice cream on summer.
>Political media starts writting about how brave and stunning and strong and [INSERT MORE WORDS HERE] the Member of HoloEN2 is.
>Political Zoomers swarm into her social media and channel and streams, subscriber and follower counts go sky high
>We will hit the point of no return if she surpasses Gura's subscribers or whatever Holo holds title of most subscribed by that time
>Using her newfound fame, this woman starts demanding in a very passive and victim like way to her fellow EN members to rally with her about stuff she believes in,
>Some refuse to comment on her thoughts and get struck with death threats and smear in a similar way to how Coco got attacked by the CCP followers but by ENG speakers who only care about politics
>EN gives in because pressure and Doxxing attempt threats, COVER can't terminate her because this would make another shitshow and maybe kill HoloEN popularity
>Girl is basically focing collabs and other stuff while constantly commenting some American politics level of bullshit while encouraging her fellow mates to be on the same "wave" as her or else.
>Streams lose all soul
>/vt/ cowers back to JP branch but girl caughts sight of numbers and starts messing with JP so they accept whatever she feels like promoting
>Mainstream media fully supports this woman and she has to play the passive activist game to influence the audience
>No need for insults or the like, the mob does that for you if someone goes against your arguments even if they are flawled
>/vt/ is on a level of alert and cope so high is nearly catching up to /pol/ by like 4 or 5 positions
>ENG VTubers start to get corrected by a flood of new "political" VTubers and the medium gets infested too
>The fun time is over, now all VTubers are political
This same scenario could play out exactly the same if NijiEN becomes popular but we have NO IDEA if their filters for crazies are as good as Hololive and some lass with issues gets in.

Now, I shall go for my meds but my concern is real.

>>2268320
I have a feeling they're already well aware of any political shenanigans and have it in contracts, and can and will take legal action. Like CN they'll just drop EN if it ever gets that bad and just stick to their own domestic markets.

>>2268320
M...meds.

>>2268507
I am just worried this entire ecosystem is gonna crumble if some asshole steps in to disrupt it cuz politics, fuck them, I want fiction and acting to be just that, no actual lessons/indoctrination on everything, fuck that shit, I don't want the english speaking parts of the net to become like America when it comes to arguments, fuck that shit.

>>2268320
Enma can manage to keep even chicken in line we don't have to worry about this

>>2246685
She has a nice design

>>2268320
Jesus man. Reach for the benzos.

>>2268320
Is this not what happen with CN when they literally watched fucking wolf warrior on stream?

>>2268900
>they literally watched fucking wolf warrior on stream
>Shitty CG propaganda movie which didn't even try unlike Rambo
>Movie tells people to fuck off cuz Chinese feelings
>Also implies Han chinese are the master race or some pseudo-scientific bullshit
Oh, so CN termination was justified.

>>2268320
off yourself

>>2264466
All me

>>2264466
>>2269080
Both of you are too based for this site, get out.

>>2267771
I fully expect this to happen consdiering it's happened to literally everything else. Can you think of one thing where it hasn't now except vtube? I suspect that's why some of us are here

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>>2246772
>"You are ugly as shit"
>TFW Chinese convinced you that Artia was an 11/10 petite young asian woman
My dissapointment is unmesurable and my day is ruined.
Seriously, I got baited hard and I haven't even seeh her face but everyone agree she's ugly as sin so my expectations are pretty much dead.

>>2268967
is rambo a propaganda movie? I thought the message was be a little nicer to veterans

>>2269385
I mean, the first one probably not that much but the later installments got all maner of US enemies so maybe they are.

>>2269365
She's like a 7 or an 8 out of 10 with the right lighting and makeup, most commenters said she was cute unless it was some heavy chinese sarcasm

>>2269365
Yeah she's a total butterface, but plastic surgery for the 'celebrity' look is pretty common for young ladies in China so she has that option. It's why a lot of them look alike.

>>2269365
if you believe just one post on /vt/, make it this one: stop believing shit you read on /vt/

>>2246772
Should add >The first admin in r/hololive but got kick because taiwan drama

iirc wolf warrior 1 is more a meme movie(to mainlanders) than a patriotic movie, the "real shit" is in the second one

We can all accept that Artia only does this because she gets off on the thought of being raped by Americans when WW3 breaks out, yes?

>>2269824
>Tia had a booked touhou rape doujin on her phone
>More research implies she gets off to small waifus getting forced into sex cuz self inserts
>Tia is therfore small too.
Yeah, I can accept that Gremlin fantasizes about getting OOFed by some handsome dude.

>>2269919
O-Oh......I legit forgot about this.

I feel bad for anyone still playing overwatch in 2021 except her

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>>2269365
Go do your /jp/ archive reps, the chinks were clowning on her when she did the facecam stream lmao.

>>2259821
https://arch-img.b4k.co/v/1617115600013.png

>>2267771
>college indoctrinated graduates
Are you saying everyone who goes to college becomes a SJW? Or just certain ones?

>>2271173
I've lost several friends to this

>>2264466
She was too based for hololive, now I understand.

She was such a good girl
https://files.catbox.moe/gwh56k.mp4

>>2271404
hot

>>2270495
>Believing in /jp/ schizos
Nah, I was actually there. I guess you antis thought the superchat from Rola's roommate was serious? Just reading the danmaku kills your rrats, oh wait you can't.

>>2269495
coco is hotter.

>>2271173
They're stupid and have never stepped foot inside a university.

So what I am getting put of this is that Rosalyn and Civia literally did nothing wrong.

>>2274286
Rosalyn was arguably the worst of them all

This all could have been prevented if the fucking Chinese bugmen didn't attacked like rabid dogs and just think of it as an accident. But no their bug brains are to autistic to understand that.

>>2266312
>>2265910
Did nobody save it?

>>2278724
I don't know, but from the looks of it, no, at least not on the English-speaking internet.

>>2272382
With makeup, yeah. Without makeup they're practically the same person

>>2278724
I heard there were several copies of the stream in some Taiwanese video sites but a lot of them got nuked too under supposed harassment or mass reporting and the like so maybe THERE IS a copy of it somewhere but the worst case, it is in some Chinese speaker hard drive or torrent server to never see the light of day ever again unless the respective server/hard drive gets hacked and drained of info in some incident similar to the TOR breach of last year.

>>2278986
There WERE several clips of the meltdown, but all in chinese (titles and descriptions), they seem to have been deleted within hours, either YT or COVER, maybe even just Antis trying to delete the bad image of Tia sobbing while spouting gibberish.

>>2267107
It was one of Polkas 1st ark streams with her Genmates. She's swimming and finds a sign that says "Artia's house" and everyone starts laughing.

>>2286248
>Polka laughs at gremlin's inevitable faith and mistakes
Wtf, I love Polka now.
Aight, I'm going to do archive reps of her, full dive.

>>2268320
This is going to 100% happen at some point.

>>2286248
She said "Oh , Artia-senpai" then laughed awkwardly and ran away from it. There'd be a huge stink about it if everyone were just laughing at Artia's house. It probably just dawned on her afterward that she was Chinese and probably getting laid off.

>>2246772
>than a swedish menhera
Who's that?

>>2287488
pewdiepie

>>2271651
I love this cute dork!

>>2261615
Ano... Ano...

>>2287488
Nerine, and all Swedish women are crazy.

>>2246685
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th0Ehv-xVQs

KILL THE IMPOSTER CHINESE, DRIVE THEM FROM THE MAINLAND BRING BACK CHINA, KILL TRAITORS

I lob this gremlin

>>2246685
who?

>>2272140
>>2271022
>>2246685
rumao

>>2246882
good to know for other nonlightened artia antis

>>2246685
If only she wasn't a Chinses drone. she might have amounted to something other than being Whinnie the Dictator's cock puppet.

>>2264146
Kill her

who. Chink tuber? Why does this board much prefer some chinky sjw drama to vtubers?

>>2246685
Yeah, it truly was a shame for her to throw it all away like that.

Fuck off chink insects

>>2264466
Fucking based

Why are Chink bugs treated as animals here?

>>2246685
so what is she up to nowadays?

>>2305840
Because they act like animals. Government dogs, to be precise.

literally less than 100 views in total

She went to the toilet, is this the fate of the graduates?

>>2306083
the hell are you talking about

>>2271404
I want to lick Artia's feet while she calls me a white pig

>>2268320
>Some 160 IQ sociopath Guts hololive and wears it like a fucking meat suit to espouse their political ideology from within.

I mean, be worried about that if you want but by this point its just as likely that one of the girls is literally kidnapped by crazed fans and hololive disintegrates because they can't protect their talent from being raped.

Most people that smart and manipulative have better means to power and authority open to them than LARPing as a woke anime girl for twitter cred.

Chinese is one of the most disgusting sounding languages and yet Civia mets me

That whole Taiwan thing. Whatever happened there.

>>2308482
ARTIA DID NOTHING WRONG.
She is merely a product of her times. You also can't call HP Lovecraft racist, if he was born today he would have loved blacks and italians. In fact he would be part of BLM

>>2308579
>TASUKETE CRACKERMAN

>>2246772
>You have a meltdown on stream, considering the chance to put a bullet on your head
source? i want to see

>>2308579
What would artia name her cat?

>>2264561
>meds
>take your meds schizo

>>2271404
Who like niggers anyway?

>>2272382
Lol, no. I never understand why people say it.
Look at her without makeup, she's average at best. There are more beautiful girls in Hololive, like Matsuri, Rushia, Miko or Nene.
Coco could be very fun, but that's all about it.

>>2309361
If you like mori and you like rap, you cant hate african americans

>>2309618
And if I hate both of them?

>>2246685
Go back to your containment thread chink

>>2246685
okay zhang, here, have some social credit

Why did no one clip all her menhera moments?

>>2246685
>le funny reddit/twitch humour
>le epic poggers
>le funny virgin chad meme
Is this really what Zhangs think is funny?

>>2309826
Then you like to suck dicks too because men are superior according to /v/ and /pol/.

>>2318348
She's unironically funny. Much funnier and more interesting than any of the EN's and most of the JP's.

>>2318348
And yet the ENs haven't managed to be more entertaining than that.

>>2320120
Anon, just say it shortly. You have shit taste

>>2318279
Because they're not real.

>>2327132
If I have shit taste for loving my beloved Tia, so be it. But I do have good taste, and Tia is great. Open your heart and leave behind the narratives; you will find a charming, talented, funny, and kindhearted streamer.

>>2269495
No way.

>>2267566
>every single EN girl in holo is an SJW
Dont talk about shit you have no idea about.

>>2329017
She's cute, gaylord. Besides, it's what's inside that counts.

>chinklovers doing this much damage control over their backstabbing oshi
she doesn't even know who you are

TIA LOVE

>>2264466
based, fuck zhangs. She's literally milking you retards for cash even though she's a dirty commie who hates westerners

>>2329328
Communism is based, so if Tia is a commie then more power to her. Big ups for the real movement.

>>2305571
do more english reps
This board unfortunately has a few chinese shills who make dumb threads but most people are smart and realize HoloCN deserved the nuke

>>2329443
>being this retarded
starving isnt based, anon.

>>2329552

Artia deserved it (or at least a suspension and ostracism but none of that would happen on her home turf) but she was still pretty fucking funny, more than I've gotten out of anyone in EN

>>2329930
Yeah sure ok but at least EN doesnt throw their coworkers under the bus and try to get them fired you fucking disgusting cockroach

>>2331658
No, they just sent their fanbase to harass their coworkers because they get killed in amongus.

>>2331658
Hahahahahahahahaha,get rekt.
Niggerfaggot. 4chan doesn't care about whores of any country.
Go back to r3ddit

>>2327909
>kindhearted
rumao

All these reddit schizos not taking meds.
It was all reddit dragon's fault, the chinese people and Tia did nothing wrong.

>>2271022
how is this dox shit still up? also she looks perfectly fine

>>2336563
>the chinese people and Tia did nothing wrong.
They existed, thats something wrong. Also go back.

>>2249106
>>2246772
This is actually rather saddening now, it'salways painful seeing some one try so hard and make so many mistakesin the processthat end up damning them, I hope she can work her way to a happy end

Leave, Chink bugs

>>2336563
Remind you

Artia was killed by her discord.
Whitell want to use her as tool and matyr
Her discord know but do not stop him. They even help him by protect him

If you angry and want to blame someone
Blame her cancer fanbase

>>2318348
>le funny reddit humour
>le epic poggers
>le funny virgin chad meme

thats literally holoEN though

>>2246685
this bait KEK

>>2343106
truth hurts and it's often called bait

>>2271022
>https://arch-img.b4k.co/v/1617115600013.png
she looks like 28yo yoko ono sister c'mon

>>2336654
like gringos and his jewish lords

>>2267566
>Everysingle EN girl as an SJW
Some one hasn't been doing their roommate reps.
I mostly agree with you though.

>>2246772
holy mother of BASED

Shartia is literally posting anti-japanese propaganda in her discord in the broad daylight trying to indoctrinate her followers and make them feel sorry for the poor people of china. How is disgusting behaviour like that allowed?

>>2249106
You're an apologist. How many offenses does she have to make and have blow up in her face before you call her out for her degeneracy? She's done some questionable things and have been caught but still continued to do so. That's not something you just throw away and say "she's just young". Introspection doesn't elude the young. It presents itself multiple times when you get caught red handed. You don't wolf down on people but if they repeatedly show shitty behaviour, you don't just go and say "boys will be boys".

>>2348524
It's a hard episode in Chinese history.
There is nothing wrong with Artia sympathizing with her nation.

>>2309618
Lol, my post was deleted.
Looks like it ok to say chink but not n****r.

>>2348651
I think I'm just too old now mentally, made a lot of mistakes in my youth and been through a lot and learned my lessons. Maybe I sound lenient on her since she's kept her head down since then so it seems like she's learned something. If she goes right back into absolutely shitty behavior though...

Artia was the best, plebs
https://streamable.com/nea3my

>>2350198
I love her. Truly a goldmine of comedy http://artia.moe/

>>2246772
she's an always online loser just like the rest of us, how can you hate her

>>2268320
en management doesnt even allow gura to sing ahoy on a sponsored stream, you think they wont literally water board and break the knee caps of someome daring to talk politics? if anything we know for a fact en management is borderline draconian, this shit wont fly

>>2271404
comming soon, hololive israel...

>>2271022
>TFW Chinese girls look hot as fuck when in makeup
>Can't snatch one sane because CCP brainwashed them all
>Also have high standards because males outnumber them and the gap is gonna get bigger with the years
Goddamn it Xi!!!

>>2271022
Which one of was supossedly grooming a rich Gachikoi to fly to the US again?

I remember a massive amount of drama and shit got confirmed when they all fell, only one who didn't had dirt was Yogiri I think.

Thoughts on Civia?

>>2353355
Either a fit qt with a butterface or some 11/10 woman, can't confirm, hands aren't good mirrors.

>>2271173
I've only gotten *more* racist and (to a degree) born-again christfag since entering college.

funny enough, I'm less Islamophobic now since they wanna kill gays, hate niggers, are basically white the further west you go, and are chill with gooks like me.

>>2268320
I...I, uh, actually trust EnMa to send whoever does this to 1800s Angola Pentitentiary or a Zambian copper mine

>>2353355
Voice of an angel, too perfect to be real.

she's no more chinese than the italians were roman in ww2.
she's not chinese, she's communist. or atleast she's ccp, if you disagree about the ccp being communist.

and no, i'm not doing off topic political bullshit -- the cultural revolution was endorsed by the state she claims pride in, the same revolution which saw much of chinese history and culture destroyed.
how the fuck can you call someone who endorses the destruction of chinese religions, folklore, culture, families, people, and identify, as chinese?

taiwan is hardly china either but they have a much more legitimate claim to being a direct continuation of the chinese state. the chinese republic got the emperor to step down and got recognition of the emperor, while he held his power, that they are the new chinese state.
long after puyi abdicated did he endorse communism, and it was only at gunpoint and through re-education camps. hardly legitimate compared to the republican's transfer of power.
in contrast to the republic seeking a transition of china into a new government, the communists wanted to destroy everything and start a new society.

>>2354067
no one cares faggot. kys.

>>2353741
You're not a Christian, then, faggot.

>>2354181
you can't gatekeep Christianity retard

>>2354111
I want to live to fight China.
Take your own advice, nobody caress about opinions that glorify a shithole of a country.

>>2354219
This "shithole" is biggest economy and military power in the world. Reality check

>>2354255
>biggest economy
no
>military power
no
and, worst of all, it's full of people who don't care enough to die for it. you're kidding yourself if you think even half ot the army would be willing to fight in any massive war. they'd sooner rebel. too soft.

add on the aging large population and horrible birth rate... and you realize the shithole doesn't even have a bright future. africa has a better future right now than china.

>>2354255
is that what the state TV has been telling you?

>>2354255
>Biggest dog around
>Barely has a pack unlike the fucking burguers who are surrounded by allies
Not enough for the Chinese to do shit, the moment they jump the shark at some land grab, the moment we all regret living in this time because sure as hell the americans are not gonna let that slip, and their allies will follow too, which is concerning because half of the fags here would shit their pants to actual nuclear threats.

>>2354377
literally check the info. No country in the world except China can stand up to US. No wonder we are in the new cold war.

>>2354255
America is wealthier. Far more important an economy too. Foreign investment and debt is all that keeps the CCP pumping fumes into that dying engine of theirs.
Either of those go and it's game over. China knows it's weak else it'd take Taiwan or have serious retaliations against the U.S.

>>2354434
no one jumped when China grabbed Tibet or those shitty islands

>>2354367
Chinks have a hilariously bad record in warfare. They spent half the last millennia being ruled by Mongols and Manchus.

>>2354462
This is also true, and China is gonna experiment a population decline not long in the future which is gonna kill their "cheap labor" economy, which the US is subverting (ironically ) with mass inmigration for cheap labor too, can't experiment a population decline if migrants reproduce like rats and work like asses for wagie paychecks.

>>2354442
Using taxes, loans, and economic surplus from American Companies and investors? Kind've hard to do that while at war with American Allies.

If China entered a serious war against anyone the world bank & the rest of the west, as well as most of the east, would cease investments, loans, factorial production, etc.
Now sure, China can just take over those factories, not like their prior investment just disappears, but what are they going to make? And for who? The massive exporting to other countries, and tax gained from producing and selling in China, is what allows the CCP to expand. China is entirely dependent on the rest of the world.

>>2354548
Isn't China transitioning from cheap labour to high technology right now? They already invested million's in IT, robotics and more

>>2354571
I think it's two way relationship. Both are very dependent on each other

>>2354537
>Remember those videos in which Chinese soldiers heading to Xinjiang for several years long patrols collectively lose their shit in the bus because they are going to fight terrorists at the border and see people getting dehumanized live (Uighurs) at their headquarters while constantly being sent in waves to attack terrorist fortifications with no regards to life and under penalty of execution if they refuse to go.
Yeah, they can't handle war.

What allowed the USSR and Nazi Germany to be serious threats was a much less globalized world. Nazi's were inward focused, Fascism explicitly calls for the nation's industry to be used by the state in a manner which benefits the state, not to produce the most profit.
The Soviet union was also inwardly focused, though still exporting.

China, on the other hand... Well look around your room, how much is made in China? Do you think your room's abundance of Chinese products is anywhere comparable to German products in the U.S before the war?

>>2354611
Not enough time to do it, they will need an estimate of 60+ years to do it right, this year they already activated emergency reforms to make all chinese retire at 80 years old because several of their "Golden age of growth" workers were about to start retiring, that's millions and this would have started the decline with exacerbated speed (COVID crisis) so they are "borrowing time" already.
Russia's also gonna experiment a similar thing but there's no failsafes there.
They both only got around 20+ years to do something bold or get engulfed by economic downfall.

>>2271022
Isn't that a photo of Tyongeee?

>>2354771
BTW, the US might experiment something similar but in 40+ years, so as far as time-related matter go, the burguers kinda got the advantage of time itself on their side.

>>2354645
Only to a point. America is the wealthiest country on earth with around 33% of all wealth. The ability to re-industrialize is here, not least of which due to Mexico and South America having cheap labor -- if America itself proved too expensive.
We could, through our wealth, easily relocate. It's just a matter of corporate greed following what is profitable, which is currently China.

Hitler thought the U.S couldn't reindustize all too fast, part of why he felt comfortable declaring war on the U.S -- that proved a deadly mistake. One China won't make on an even more powerful and capable U.S.
You're already seeing this with the U.S having a surplus of oil and other energies. You're already seeing it with factories moving out of China due to supply chain concerns.

The infrastructure is mostly there. The wealth is definitely there.
All that needs to happen is a changed world and some new words on a new document -- boom. Give it about a year and they've recovered all lost manufacturing capacity they relied on in China.

>>2354830
That and America is built as a multi-ethnic society. Sure, there's racial and cultural issues, especially as Whites stop being a majority, but it's a LOT easier for American society to work new immigrants in, compared to China.
It's why it's the largest acceptor of immigrants in the world.
>In absolute numbers, the United States has a larger immigrant population than any other country, with 47 million immigrants as of 2015. This represents 19.1% of the 244 million international migrants worldwide, and 14.4% of the U.S. population.
Now imagine China having 14.4% of it's population be migrants. You KNOW that wouldn't fly. And who'd want to move there when the U.S is an option? Americans can afford to pay more for your time, if you can you'll take America almost every time.

>>2354864
Kinda true if anything, China would need to effectively make itself self-sufficient to kinda step it up to their neighbours, which is a challenge in and out of itself because the Chinese countryside is severely underdeveloped or flat-out forgotten in the most remote cases.
If China wants to maintain momentum, they need to industrialize the entire country in a way they are capable of not depending on foreigner money, which is not possible for them right now so they need to do some serious building and planning in the next 20 years or they will be through because sure as hell the companies are not going to keep tolerating a more and more restrictive and assertive Beijing because "Muh country is first world now you [INSERT RACE] pigs!". Which is not true, China just has a lot of money RN but not really a developed nation other than PR about their cities which is true but not really foreigner friendly.

Just as Austria-Hungary and The Ottoman empire were the old men of Europe, the CCP is the old man of Asia.
Or the USSR of Asia.
Nobody competent expects it to last beyond the 21st century. It's a question of when, how, and why. Specifically if it'll be a soft transition or not.

I just wanted to talk about Artia, but you faggots can't live without turning every thread into a political shitfest

>>2354934
Xi would gut himself before letting China become multi-ethnical, you know he fears race mixing and other genetical and cultural stuff I am not going to discuss (because it's bullshit) when he orders to "re-educate" their own ethnical groups cuz he fears radicalization that much.

>>2355045
That and their investments favor foreign investment right now. The airports, ports, etc.
Even their one belt one road initiative is done in an effort to bring more foreign investment and chinese exports.

I will say that it is to their own benefit whenever they build a factory, even if foreign owned. But there are some massive 'but's to that.

>>2355090
Artia is a good meme lord despite all of the political BS not gonna lie.

>>2355053
Americans have been claiming China will fall since forever. If it didn't happen during the chaos of cultural Revolution or mass protests in the '90s it will never happen

>>2355151
If foreign companies think they ever really own something in China they are massive retards.

>>2355090
Welcome to making yourself a patriot. Never make the mistake of tying yourself to politics so heavily. At Least if you don't want to face issues outside of your own echochamber.
I'm sure she's fine in China. Just she'll never be fine here and you need to grow up and realize that.

>>2355184
China has fallen repeatedly throughout history.

>>2355213
Artia lives in California retard

>>2355184
Mao's China did fall though. Just not totally. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying those predictions were right -- the CCP is still here -- but it's in a changed form.

Beyond that the issues have changed. And those same people you point to, who were wrong? Well, in general, their peers or own self were right about the USSR falling. Give it some more time and we'll see they were right about the CCP falling before a hundred years since it's start.

>>2355257
Wasn't she in Canada?

>>2355257
Learn to read. She's fine in China.

>>2355305
Somewhere on western coast in my knowledge pepega

>>2355151
It kinda worries me because if China suffers something unseen like a "Government wide" cancellation effort which makes investors and companies pull out in a frenzy of avoiding backslash, the entire country could fall into massive unrest which means a lot of Chinese people are going to suffer something or worse like the fall of the USSR because their government didn't plan ahead other than trying to milk money from around the world and not make itself self-sustainable which might sounds odd to some people but the US IS STILL SELF-SUSTAINABLE!!! despite all the BS burguers claim or do.

Also, China has a bad track record of being multiple states in what always has been considered China, which, unironically, might be one of the reasons why the CCP surveys everyone so "Warring states: The reboot" does not happen again.

>>2355276
This is true, communist China is a meme, they are capitalist as fuck with severe totalitarian tendencies, is like if North Korea had not sperged and actually tried to develop.
Mao's communist China is dead, there's only a greedy "wannabe socialist" capitalist fuckfest of a country now.

>>2355313
For now she's fine in the west, though that could change depending if tensions escalate far enough (I'm betting on a bit more escalation but not on any cold war scale)

>>2355257
And despite all, Tia is still cute, Goddamn it Gremlin!

>>2355405
The Chinese people know suffering well. It's part of why they're so accepting of the current CCP. I can't even imagine the horrors lived through in the Cultural Revolution, Great Leap Forward, Century of Shame, Taiping Rebellion, etc.

When you know terror so well even slavery will be loved. Maybe even more so, since you know your master has interest in keeping you alive while you can be of use.
The problem is these people growing up better off -- they may have more demands.

>>2355435
The west is pretty accepting. She'd be in trouble if she had her past painted on her everytime she went outside, however.
Thankfully not even the bitterest of Anti's can really do that to her. Really all you can do with such painting is sever their established relationships, such as friends, employment, etc -- you can't really expect a stranger to know what she looks like or what she did, and, even if they did know, to care.

>>2355405
The difference is USSR wasn't AI surveillance state that identifies and effectively eliminates threats to CCP power

>>2355435
We are not getting there yet anon, and I doubt the Chinese will actually try to land something like Taiwan or land grabbing parts of India or those South China Sea waters, they risk losing too much money if investors realize their "democratic" governments are gonna ask questions about why they inserting money in a country which is going on a conquering rage, they also risk killing several civilian Americans by accident which would be the biggest NONONO of the century or worse, accidentally sperging and hitting a destroyer near the coast of Taiwan, killing American soldiers which is dead sentence not because Americans can win a war against them, but because one thing is going head to head with the burguers were chances are scarce unless they try to invade, which they don't need to because economic blockades work better, but it's a bigger story to try and take head on the entire western and eastern democratic blocks AT THE SAME TIME, at that point, nuking each other makes more sense which NO ONE wants because it means we all lose.

>>2355606
there is a rrat that one of her relatives is high ranking local party official

>>2355667
Eh makes sense I guess, still, I wonder if all of the CN girls needed to have relatives in the party to get allowed to work for the HoloCN branch.

>>2355643
The CCP will fall if it keeps course.

They don't WANT to take Taiwan, or engage in these maneuvers in the SC sea. They are desperate moves trying to secure their future.
Just like the Ottoman empire. Except the Chinese have the whole history of the 16th-21st centuries to digest, all digitized and analyzed a thousand different ways online by some of the smartest people to ever live, only to then be analyzed and prepared by some of their smartest experts. They know their issues better than we do, and they aren't stupid or ignorant enough, in the 21st century, to think ignorance is bliss.

I'm not smart enough to see all their possible courses of action. Maybe they have a general strategy to avoiding collapse while holding control of the country. Maybe even one including their current prosperity. But they will have to take action no matter what happens, that much is a guarantee.

>>2355771
There's a single thing I know, even if the CCP falls, the high members of the party have already secured their futures in case they need to flee the fuck out of the country.

>>2355834
That's actually the problem, that's not guaranteed.
Just look at Libya or Iraq. Some governments don't view themselves as the country as much as the government. For a great many the CCP's success is more important than China's success.

>>2355405
China is already moving to self sufficiency. Read about their "Dual circulation strategy"

>>2355977
Trying and is are two different things. Especially with the spectacular electrical failures early this year caused by their trade wars and internal tariffs. The CCP has delivered self inflicted wounds through tarifs they thought self sufficiency would bandage, they clearly don't have realistic views of their own self sufficiency prospects.

>>2355956
Yeah, that might be why they are so persistent right now to convince other governments to become totalitarian like them, if they have no powerful allies, they know they will not hold on, and they sure know how easy it is for the democratic blocks to fuck over an entire country with sheer economic pressure, it happened in Libya, it happened in the middle east and it DEFINITELY can happen to them too for now.

>>2356041
That's because the CCP higher ups kinda give the fake stats to some of their planning staff to avoid doubts, which makes progress half-assed while it could have gone well had they not supressed the actual statistics.

>>2356065
I have a feeling if China will fall it would be replaced by another corrupt authoritarian regime. Just look how Russia turned to that after fall of USSR

>>2355977
>Back in 2016 they planned to become self-sufficient by 2020
>2021
>Planning about to be finished and no actual strategy yet implemented because infrastructure turned out to be in far worse conditions than they thought.
That strategy is all paper and pens as of now anon...

>>2356065
Yup. If everything else fails their only hope is through having fall guys and excuses of stability being necessary. Just like how the U.S spared most of Imperial Japan from the trials or harsh sentences, due to their surrender before invasion and the needs to keep Japanese society at least somewhat stable, or how Puyi was guarded after he abdicated.

Where you're fucked is if you're like the Nazis, where your regime doesn't have enough power, necessity, legitimacy, or popular support, to avoid intense scrutiny following it's fall/transition. It is interesting to consider what would've happened to the Nazis if they surrendered far earlier, like when it was clear the reds would reach Berlin.

>>2356116
>TFW Russia might be going along with China like a buddy so they can land grab with ease once their economic downfall ruptures the country into Warring States 2: Electric Boogaloo [GUNS N' PANDAS EDITION]
Putin never ceases to amaze me NGL.

>>2356116
Russia had the CCP and a generally neutral world watching as it collapsed. If the CCP falls there are few regimes powerful or sympathetic, or both, that would feel inclined towards blocking/stopping the west from supporting/modifying the new state.
Maybe Russia, but their size and political capital would become minute and unimportant in a post CCP world.

>>2356199
>Nazis surrender early
>Reds make entire of Germany North Korea EURO edition
>No Kiara in this reality
I don't know if such world would be a blessing or a curse.

I can't wait to read another thread about my favorite ice chuuba! I'm sure /vt/ has kept on-topic and lived up to their high standards of discussion, as usual.

>>2246772
>orange women say bad word
>get mad
I laughed my ass off, it really did just fumble from there.
Judas made a mistake she can't take back and she's paying the price for it with everything that could have been. Despite her being a bug I can't help but feel sorry for her, she became a figure head for one of the most vile controversies in Hololive and did far more harm to her genmates than good in her stupid bullshit. Especially the fucking avatars, my god if its true that she fucked up and got the permissions for her avatar taken away, I'd imagine she'd try to put a bullet in her head given how much of a fuckin wreck her career was in already.

People always say the west fill fall under the weight of its corruption and inefficiencies, but they don't understand that any totalitarian regime is 1000 times more corrupt and inefficient, they just don't have free media and public discourse that would allow foreigners to know about it.

In a way Russia is far more advanced than China. China is still chasing the 20th century way of doing dictatorship: Overt oppression and censorship combined with positive propaganda. Expensive and it makes the government an obvious enemy everyone can agree is the enemy.

Russia lets people mostly do what they want, but the government puts out all kinds of inane propaganda and obvious lies, while letting random opponents live normally, while others are attacked by the mafia or by ridiculous glowie bullshit that is so on the nose you start to doubt whether the people behind it are for fucking real. And that's the point. Everything is a lie or absurd. People in power are so openly rotten that it's unbelievable. Their lies so brazen people are baffled. "Surely it must be true, nobody would tell such a crazy lie". Years of this leads to people starting to laugh at the idea that anything can be known. Truth itself becomes something only idiots think exists at all. Everything is expected to be five layers of bullshit. What are the rules and who are the players? Who pursues what goals? Nobody can tell. So no opposition is possible.

>>2356319
You know, I could actually see Hitler surviving in such a scenario. Maybe. Hard to know for sure, but if he can pick which side gets the first peace treaty, and easy access to all Nazi occupied territory, he might be able to secure a significant portion of the Nazi's members surviving. Kinda like in Japan.
Just that this theoretical hitler is completely divorced from our hitler who would rather die than surrender.

>>2354820
The hell they look almost identical except Artia has a smaller nose

>>2356361
Artia never said a bad word about coco

>>2356271
>the west from supporting/modifying the new state
Also even the chinese believe this.
It's actually a common talking point among pro china posters online. They'll say something like "CCP is far from perfect but if it wasn't in Tibet or (insert region here) they'd be puppets just like during the century of shame! Without the we'd be controlled and humiliated by the west!"

And honestly I think they're right. But I don't think it's a bad thing to not allow another ridiculously corrupt government to form which commits flagrant human rights abuse. I'm sure there'd be some western corruption mixed into any such government, but not as bad as the CCP's corruption.

>>2356271
They will most likely Zerg Rush the Chinese border filled with PLA clueless and orderless soldiers and grab as much as they can from their eastern side before the "allies" now with 40% more asians and Japanese forces on their sides (the irony) land too close to keep the rampage going without accidentally hitting a sherman tank or something, then they will try to make Russian Empire 2.0 with the Chinese lands expansion, The Tibet is gonna get annexed too AGAIN, can't have shit in China FFS

Yeah, I take meds, this is too much speculation really but is fun shitposting about the future of angry chinese authority.

>>2356507
I could see India taking Tibet. Or maybe just some of it, or making it a puppet state. As much as they're an ally they're also corrupt and self interested -- as much as I love India and it's people there's no reason India should be united under the laws it's currently united under. The United states is dangerously close to reaching that point where it's tyranny via majority, but India reached that point long ago. What makes America only close to that point is having 600 million less people, all under a fairly free system giving states massive authority over their own laws.
Such cannot be said for India. Which really is depressing to admit. I hope the Indian states gain some more freedom and rights to self governance soon.

>>2356371
>The virgin China
>Send people into Auschwitz 2.0 because they insulted your supreme leader hair in family group chat while drunk
>The Chad Russia
>Let your opponent completely discover the entirety of your master plan and later, in the most based and hardcore power move, poison him through HIS UNDERWEAR so he starts gurling like a bitch before flying to expose what you let him find in the first place.

>>2356338
Hey, it's not that bad, if anything is better than when you mention Orange MAGA man or Old man president and burguers inmeadiately ruin the thread.
Take a seat, let's talk, even talking about HoloCN out of the blue would not be that bad, girls cute despite political views.

>>2356686
Imagine wanting to kill a political opponent, and instead of the hundreds of natural looking plausibly deniable about every still lowkeys thinks you did it but there's no evidence ways, you pick some retarded roundabout unique way that both proves beyond all reasonable doubt that you were behind it (be it using extremely rare radioactive isotopes, or proprietary chemical weapons nobody but you possesses), while still allowing your opponent as much time as is needed to say everything he could ever want to say about you. And then you simply claim you didn't do it.

It's beyond absurd. Nobody would do this. It makes no sense. It was thought up by inbred alcoholics, or by 400IQ super genius think tanks. It's impossible to tell the difference.

>>2356645
They will not until China stops fucking with their interests (which are also not that GOOD), too bad to know I will probably die before seeing India get more freedoms or atleast try to give them at all.
I wonder if our forefathers chatted just like us but using their respective ways of socialization about their respective political concerns of their times.

>>2357016
Fucking Russian Intelligence Agencies at the Kremlin, they are some funny sons of bitches when thinking on how to un-life people while knowing fully well they will get discovered and yet they do it anyways cuz KEKs, fucking eastern europe based individuals.

>>2356499
> I don't think it's a bad thing to not allow another ridiculously corrupt government to form which commits flagrant human rights abuse. I'm sure there'd be some western corruption mixed into any such government, but not as bad as the CCP's corruption.
While I see your point regarding the inability to effectively set a democratic government in a recent theoretical "Post-CCP" China, letting corruption run rampant will just create another revolution in the long run, it was corruption and inefectiveness which caused the death of Imperial China and the rise of the CCP, letting a new barely working apparatus in China will just plant the seeds to another totalitarian state which WILL refuse to yield to the western powers altogether and might cause a genocide similar to the Cambodian one out of pure ignorance and lack of coordination.
We can't half-ass things with a nation that big suddenly getting a new government/provinces, if anything, this has to be played down like back when the allies administered West Germany and once it is more or less competent, just let it off the leash and let them run their own way, I mean, it worked wonders with Germany and Japan, no way the plan can't be readjusted to fit a "post-totalitarian and capitalistic" society in the east. We would need time, only that.

>>2356821
I just want to have a comfy thread on here where I can talk about Artia without it becoming anons pontificating on politics they don't understand. Take me back to September bros. Anyway, here's a cute clip of Artia https://files.catbox.moe/phixnp.webm

>>2348878
>I think I'm just too old now mentally,
Stop being a faggot, please.

>>2357673
Artia discord( Whitell) started spam Coco in September.

Your comfy treate dream end because her discord help anti spam with ignorance and protect him

>>2357495
I can't imagine any competent government existing while it controls a billion people. Much less a democracy. I think you'd have to break up China itself to achieve something like the success of SK, JP, GE, etc.
Maybe a weak federal government could work. Nonetheless there would be corruption issues.

>>2336563
>also she looks perfectly fine
lmfao you must be extremely ugly

>>2271022
did all the stress cause that horrible hairline?

>>2358190
>He thinks the "allies" of that time wouldn't inmediately separate China to avoid a second coming of the CCP
>He thinks we are not gonna let some corruption issues slip by for good measure while actually pursuing the most fucked up shit like organ harvesters and child vendors + Neo-socialist groups which are definitely going to rise and we can antagonize as the true architects of China's downfall using dumbed down and less intrusive versions of the CCP indoctrination programs and propaganda system while slowly dismantling the unnecesary parts of the surveillance system and still use it to our advantage and against ex-members of the party hiding in plain sight or in the countryside.
See anon?, this is why you are not a supreme leader yet, you lack vision.

>>2358700
There are a shit ton of extremely ugly women out there and she's not one of them. She has a more or less symmetrical face and can look decent in piss yellow lighting in a tshirt and sweatpants with hair that just came out of a tight ponytail. That's more than a good half of women can say, especially western ones

>>2267355
>>2287488
I would assume Lumi, but she's actually Finnish.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGxXc1UNZI9-iva1zmdldqw/featured

>>2356448
There is no difference between shitting on Coco yourself or letting your closest community, your mods and personal friends shit on her

>>2306083
Aloe is doing alright.

>>2359146
This line of thinking is genuinely insane. You're only responsible for what you do. She could have handled the situation better, no question, but it's pretty clear to me she was never malicious, just misguided.

>>2359041
I would give Artia a shot NGL, problem is that she will likely start getting political after a while of knowing her and in worse case scenario, she might threaten me with X or join the CCP, at that point I might as well leave without calling, don't care if she later accuses me of Rape or something I didn't do to her, I am not following Xi's wacky "Numbah Wan" regime under any circumstance, be it good or bad, NO!

>>2359307
Hololive is a fucking mirace my dudes!

>>2356399
0% chance that Stalin would allow him to live. The Allies were a bunch of cowards that used starvation as a weapon of war and wanted Germany and the USSR to wipe each other out, no matter how many Eastern Europeans had to die for it to happen. A German victory at Stalingrad is the only way things play out any different than they did.

>>2359294
Now that's what I call schizoposting.

>>2359279
While that is a rational opinion it does rub me the wrong way when dslido, D-Walter, darklingpeggys are all in the same fucking public discord gushing over tia's bodyparts while I know there's a greasefork script going in the background. These clowns are geniuine Antis and nothing can be done, at least there's nothing I can do on there that wont get me banned from that discord.

>>2359279
Not even misguided just flat out clueless considering Tia has confessed to only get her facts from chinese media outlets.

>>2358777
Pretty sure she tried to pull an "Anime hairline" there and her or whoever cut her hair fucked it up but gremlin being gremlin rly belieb'd it looked cool and left it like that. She probably cut it again after her followers bullied her.

>>2359743
She's so fucking cute......

>>2359279
Artia and her friend have 1 months for solve this problem but they not give a fuck and even help him indirecty.

Her action is louder than word

>>2359279
Not that guy but I spend 0 time here shitting on or talking about her except for her threads.
I'm not some amazing arbiter of justice who will judge her or sentence her, or give her a deserved punishment myself. I'm not the jailor, judge, or executioner.
But I am an Anon on /vt/. When someone posts a thread it's an invite for me to comment. This is explicitly the point of the site, except when rules come into play, such as /a/'s anime/manga only rule.
You can't judge people here for shitting on her when her self is put forward for judgment by the board. Any thread is an invite for candid opinion.

This part of why Kiara was spammed; by forcing her to be the topic it forced the negative opinion here to come out. You really can't blame 'anti's' when you come to a place you know dislikes her and ask their opinion of her. Even if it's for fans there is no rule saying only fans can comment in a general, it's explicitly part of 4chan that there is just a topic with a thread, not rules, rules are imposed by moderators based on the board, not the thread, and the site.
So again, if someone posts a thread you can't blame people for shitting on her.

>>2359970
They all cute... Just, wrong country to be born I guess...
And Gremlin specially would probably be a nice friend if you manage to avoid political discussion at all times.

>>2359999
Based and Chuubapilled

>>2359999
Nice quads. I have no problem with anons on here hating her, even though I think most people's reasons for doing so are stupid or founded on rrats. I love Tia and think she's a great streamer and probably a good person, but I'm cool with the fact that the general sentiment towards her and literally any other Chinese streamer will be mostly negative. I can't change how anyone feels. It's unfortunate that people can't see her good qualities in light of the fallout from October and geopolitical issues, but it is what it is. My oshi is still the best.

nice to see this thread hitting bump limit
tia is shit and if you like her, that means you like shit

>>2361510
I hereby dedicate this thread and all the posts in it to the cause of Tia love.

>>2360172
no she's not and you should go back to NGA if you want to type shit like that on a Coco website

>>2359529
twitter.com/Hecatiaz/status/1377039732119498752
She is still fucking dumb. She didn't learn anything since drama and still gobbling up all the social media cancer but this time also western

>>2361755
STOP ASIAN HATE
but only against Chinese
it's OK to hate SEA, Central Asians and South Asians!

>>2361821
What are you talking about, anon? What about her post indicates that?

>>2361755
This asian hate thing is one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. It feels like a gotcha straight out of the CCP's playbook.

Haven't they ever met a White American or an Asian American?
The worst a white person does unprovoked is slant their eyes in the mirror for a stupid joke, or joke about how smart or strict asians are. Maybe the worst is, in private settings, imitating how chinese sounds as a light hearted joke.
I say unprovoked there because people will do horrible racist things if they're very angry at someone, like over murder or shit tons of money. If saying 'Nigger' is the most surefire way to piss off someone you want to kill, you'll say it.
But getting back to it -- the imitation of asians in private is hardly hate. Is it hate when white Americans immitate an English person? An Italian? Nah. It's just human nature. And the eyes thing is likewise, someone looks different than you and you want to understand it, maybe even copy it.


I've just never thought of White America as racist. Unless it's some sort of dog whistle against black/hispanic people, which honestly it may be, it just sounds really dumb.


Probably the only genuinely standout idea I've heard was 'How do you know? How can you tell them apart?' when I commented how many Korean tourists there were. Yeah, that's like saying Europeans are all the same, kinda beyond just human nature and moves into the realm of ignoring a group of people's identities.

>>2361755
This asian hate thing is one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. It feels like a gotcha straight out of the CCP's playbook.

Haven't they ever met a White American or an Asian American?
The worst a white person does unprovoked is slant their eyes in the mirror for a stupid joke, or joke about how smart or strict asians are. Maybe the worst is, in private settings, imitating how chinese sounds as a light hearted joke.
I say unprovoked there because people will do horrible racist things if they're very angry at someone, like over murder or shit tons of money. If saying 'Nigger' is the most surefire way to piss off someone you want to kill, you'll say it.
But getting back to it -- the imitation of asians in private is hardly hate. Is it hate when white Americans immitate an English person? An Italian? Nah. It's just human nature. And the eyes thing is likewise, someone looks different than you and you want to understand it, maybe even copy it.


I've just never thought of White America as racist against asians. At Least in so far as racism beyond our natural state, that being noticing differences and commenting on them. Unless it's some sort of dog whistle against black/hispanic people, which honestly it may be, it just sounds really dumb.


Probably the only genuinely standout idea I've heard was 'How do you know? How can you tell them apart?' when I commented how many Korean tourists there were. Yeah, that's like saying Europeans are all the same, kinda beyond just human nature and moves into the realm of ignoring a group of people's identities.

>>2362036
I think you can look at any thread on this board that is in any way related to China and see tons of people using terms like chink or bugman to refer to Chinese. There's a lot of anti-Chinese sentiment in the USA. I don't care about the sort of shit you're talking about because it's harmless, but there are a lot of Americans that fucking hate the Chinese, unfortunately. And I think the impetus for the hashtag was an uptick an anti-asian violence. Watch me be called a chink or bugman or CCP shill for writing this.

>>2362092
>This asian hate thing is one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. It feels like a gotcha straight out of the CCP's playbook.
It literally is. Chinese hate Western SJWs so much they have a special racial slur for them, but a couple years ago all the CCP social media accounts stopped using it and started supporting and signal boosting the far left because they realized how much it was weakening the US and Europe. I guess the silver lining when we're conquered by China is that the SJWs will all get ventilated.

>>2361921
basically everything about "stop asian hate" is about """""sinophobia""""" and """"model minorities"""" ignoring a good 75% of the continent. Good way to shut these people down is bring up how they didn't care about asian hate after 9/11 but they do now.

>>2362153
Yeah, I won't deny the Anti-Chinese hatred. But you must understand it has little to do with the culture and almost everything to do with the government.

When you meet someone from a recent immigrant family they're likely to be brainwashed like Tia. Worse still they have fucking human hostages in the form of family in China. It feels like you're interacting with a government, not a person, and that is really insane and infuriating.
Hire someone chinese? Oh no, must be some bad luck leaking our fucking trade secrets. Hear them loudly claim there is no genocide and to get over it? Oh how silly!

Sorry, I'm kind've out of it. But essentially it feels like talking to a fucking Nazi in the 30s whose family is overseas -- it feels like they don't give a single shit about the success of your country and, if their country fought yours, would stomp on your face and justify it. When I see someone willing to see me and my family dead on the streets, without them saying a word, it pisses me off. Especially when they use our rights, which their government refuses to offer, to stomp on us.

You're supposed to be an American first. When you're a fucking asset for China, with your cooperation insured by familial hostages, you aren't American.

>>2362211
>they'll ventilate SJWs but not me
lol

>>2362416
Something similar is Zionists. It's not about race, it's about the fact you put another country's interests over me and my family while being a citizen of this country.
Difference is Jews don't want to see me dead in the streets or in a concentration camp. They just want to engage in nepotism and keep their state afloat. Not nearly as big a deal, especially since they don't get in your face most of the time, happy to be alone in their enclave.

Maybe you believe Jewish conspiracies or whatever else, whoever's reading this, but most of America just thinks of Jew's as nepotistic and wealthy. It's just those same people don't care too much because it rarely affects them and other groups also have in group preference. That's the impression I've gotten anyway.

>>2362456
>not me
I never stated or implied that, retard.

>>2362655
>silver lining is I spend my last moments in a chamber with SJWs crying
very strange

>>2362608
>Difference is Jews don't want to see me dead in the streets or in a concentration camp
They do, they just can't be open about it like the chinks.

>>2362685
If you actually read their bible killing infidels isn't kosher, which is why they mostly just want to have their little ethnostate of chosen people

>>2362792
That hasn't stopped them in the past, even if true.

>>2362837
The only people jews have killed as a group are palestianians and that's because they hate muslims
i dunno what you want me to say anon, they're not some super evil cabal of rich jews wanting to conquer the world when their capital was under missle attacks until 10 years ago

>>2362837
>>2362884
>>2362792
>>2362685
Main reason I don't care much about Jewish peoples is they're a minority who is catered to willingly. Right wing politicians get on TV talking about how much they want to suck Israeli cock and evangelicals weep tears of joy while running to cast a ballot.
It's not like they have a goyim mind control machine or purchase their power -- at least not all of it -- they have genuine Americans who genuinely think Israel is somehow important to America, so much so we must personally finance it.

Can I blame this on Israelis? A little. Is it completely their fault? No. The voters want it and the voters get it. At the end of the day you could see America go pretty anti-semitic pretty easily if the voters stopped wanting it. It's probably why the holocaust is talked so much about in it's Jewish dimension -- makes it a lot harder to have genuine criticism of nepotism or israel.

>>2362884
Jews committed dozens of genocides before the Romans conquered them and more recently large scale ethnic cleansings in eastern Europe that are not widely discussed by ((historians)). You seem to lack basic knowledge of history and economics to an extent that I can't remedy in a bump limited chuuba thread. Start with learning what the Central Banking System is and how it works.

>>2363269
I work in finance you monkey

>>2362416
>hostages
I think there's a misunderstanding. Like you said they're already brainwashed. If it was hostages they'd side with uyghurs who actually have family here hostage instead of harassing them. They believe reason they're able to afford the luxury to stay abroad is because of the ccp. They attribute the rise in wellbeing in their country to the ccp, instead of failing them for half a century. They can't separate themselves from the hive mind.

>>2246685
>sucking commie dick

>>2271022
Same energy

>>2367715
Hololive is Japanese company not Chinese.