/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>22558302
you already made that kobo bait thread, IDbros.

>>22558302
Popular because it's cunny, all you need

>>22558302
hey RnD is hard anon

need a few niche chuuba to gain the profit fomula

>>22558302
i love kobo so much, this is what I've always wanted and expected from HoloID, a vtuber that actually speaks indonesian. i was so disappointed with ID2 with reine literally just uses english 99% of the time, ollie which very clearly hates her own people and anya which is just bland.

took them 3 generations but they did it, kobo is the perfect indonesian chuuba for me.

>>22558302
It's more complicated than that. She's popular because she's a talented Vtuber and because the other 8 HoloIDs created a huge audience for her while mostly leaving the "Speaks mostly Indonesian" niche open. Iofi's the most ID-focused member of Area 15, and that hasn't gotten her anywhere.

>>22558496
where's the bait tho?
he's just stating the facts

>>22558997
Wait until she notices indogs are poor so she will switch to EOPs

>>22558302
>Kobo is popular because she's the first HoloID that actually caters to an Indonesian audience
Iofi...

>>22558302
Wish more vtuber can do that.
No need to become gura killer if she is their own gura now

>>22559200
you didn't even watch iofi tho, she caters to JP, ID and EOP

>>22558997
Anya is great but she is clearly going for the Japanese audience. She has such a high level of Japanese skill that I think she could have made it into HoloJP. I believe there was talk about how she was actually planning to move to Japan but then the lockdown impeded her plans, and in the meantime she got into HoloID.

>>22558997
And she had lower donations compared to Zeta, yeah I included sociabuzz as well, you guys rarely donate and one of the reason why Niji ID died

>>22558302
Ollie and moona have more subs than her

>>22558302
>popular among unwashed destitute dogs
>worth anything
i give it a month before she gets it in her head that views don't matter and that appealing to superior unicorns like me is the only way to succeed
until then i'll keep my money

>>22558302
exactly. she's a fresh archetype in holo that lures brand new audiences. while the other two are just a rehearse of already existing holos

>>22559654
subs doesn't mean shit when 90% of it are dead subs

>>22559583
who? kobo or gen2?

>>22558302
The moment she notices you indogs aren't giving her any money she'll suddenly be proficient at English. You lot better pony up if you want to keep her

Yeah, she will be the most watched. But guess what? Indonesians are poor and stingey, they don't send movie.

>>22559786
Gen 2 obviously

>>22559872
>movie
??

>>22559872
*Send money

>>22559786
Kobo, Kobo sociabuzz full of 15k rupiah ( 1 USD) donations and she read almost all of them, now compare that to Zeta superchat, yeah also compare sociabuzz and youtube cut as well if you want

why is zetafag like this?

>>22560040
Please don't brag about your 1 USD donations on Kobo, rupiah is worthless in the real world

pls don't brag about subs or viewers count they mean literal shit. donation money is the real comparison tool

>>22560101
you do realize their main income is not from donations right?

I'm surprised nobody mention her singing ability. That is single-handedly what made me look forward to her stream, even if its not a singing stream. Listen to her karaoke guys.

Enjoy your Valorant and maro streams, I guess

>>22560200
???? That's one of her main income retard, unless yagoo paid her salary to keep talking in Indonesian

I feel bad for kobo, high view count, lower donations, toxic chat

>falseflagger want to pit each fanbases
>still bite into it

>>22560272
singing ability doesn't matter if no one donates

>>22560373
they can't help it, tribal faggotry are the core of their souls. They just can't be satisfied with enjoying their own chuubas.

>>22560457
i know it's /vt/ after all.
it doesn't get better since forever, and probably won't ever.

>>22558302
Iofi...

>>22560379
It just feels wrong sending so much money to a child

>>22560659
>>22559311

>>22559970
do you know there's an option where you can donate more thatn 15kRupiah on socizbuzz?

Iofi....

>>22559149
>cover is shit
>id is good
hmmmmmmm i wonder what op meant by this

>>22559583
Proof? Cause i saw this yesterday
>>22411546
>>22426353

>>22561839
Don't even try to explain this to them
They don't have a brain to begin with

>>22561839
>>22562617
I watch her stream retard, one or two donate 100k or 200k but most go for 15k and she read almost all of them, yeah it's funny if you understand Indonesian but please don't glorify her donation, it's really low compared to Zeta, and I hope kobo speak more English in the future

>>22561839
they don't have proof to begin with anon

>>22561839
>>22562617
Meanwhile Zeta got 4400 USD in a single stream. Assuming she takes 35%, that's $1540

>>22558302
I dont watch her but she's the first human being to actually make the sound of Indonesian sound palatable. Everyone else who speaks that language makes my ears bleed but Kobo actually sounds cute.
Fucking trash compactor language

>asking for fucking proof
>No one give any
You know you can't numberfagging with "trust me bro" right?

Kobo is fun

>>22563312

>>22562922
>I hope kobo speak more English in the future
god i hope not, she'll filter her viewers and she couldn't pander to Local memes anymore because of different viewers,
she's cute as she is now, i don't want her to become another Ollie

>>22563800
So you don't want her to get 1 mil subs and lead her branch?

>>22558302
She’s popular because she’s a water type. All water type holos are popular.

>>22563862
NTA but it's not 2020 anymore, having 1 million subs is kinda worthless now, also you can see that from Moona and Ollie, 95% of them are dead subs.

>>22563862
doesn't have to pander with EOP
she'll get there with her own pace

>>22564043
>Muh dead subs
Is this a nipple thread in disguise?

>>22564187
nope, but am i wrong tho?

>>22558302
Windah basudara but female
Kaela and reine were pandering to IOPs and that got them nowhere.
So You got it backwards.
HoloiD who didn't find much success pandering to IOPs are switching to English/global audience.
Indonesian normalfags want cute and chaotic chatterbox, chill streamers are less popular.

>>22564301
>Windah Basudara
Yeah actually Brando said it himself that being elegant and comfy won't bring you nowhere if you want to pander to IOP as a streamer in generan and he predicts Kobo has more potential if she focuses more to her current market

>>22558302
Post the brap

>>22564649
https://streamable.com/hns2r4

Makes me wonder why can't I find /ehe~/ on catalog btw?

>>22564301
she's basically Pekora of HoloID

If only pandering to Indogs would get her any substantial amount of money.
The amount of money in USD (a currency that matters) is less than if she were to actually drop the Indog and pander to EOP properly.
Such a waste of a model and potential.

>>22565345
who hurt you anon?

>>22565420
The poor amount of money she's making that will drop her to Iofi or Anya tier did. It's not hard to learn EN while she still has a viewerbase.
And, before you try to say she earns more than people on this board, if you have a normal job then she doesn't.

>>22565543
again, who hurt you anon?

kek, i never understand the mind of numberfag, why are they seething over things like donation earning of each chuubas

>>22565345
Don't worry her English speaking senpais and genmates are covering her, they will provide money to the branch while kobo is expanding the market.
She can make songs on her own. She can also play guitar. If she's tight on the budget she can just put an acoustic orisong

>>22564187
dunno what you mean but dead subs are a serious issue. I don't know why you or any one would feel good about being followed by a lot of people and getting less viewership than people with 10x less following than you.

Why i fucking hate the "new holo" treatment where faggots just sub to them without actually intending to watch them. It's a disservice to both yourself and the girls.

>>22565822
Gee, I dunno, maybe because there's precedence of an entire ID branch closing because their country is too fucking poor? I like the girls and I want them to succeed but pandering to literal poors isn't going to get them anywhere.
>>22565937
I hope so Anon, I really hope so.

>>22566090
This thread is just full of nijinigs falseflagging after based Kobo proved that you don't need to pander to shitty EOPs

Numberfagging without proof is a new low

>>22558302
>popular among subhumans
who cares lmao

>22566222
>he still trying
kek

>>22566348
Also zetafags jealous of Kobo being more successful than their oshi, been seeing a lot of that lately

>>22558997
Are you me bro? Or there are actually a lot of people like us?
Last time I remember Holo ID fans are a bunch of elitists who loves to diss their fellow countrymen for asking the talents to speaks more Indonesian

>>22566553
>olo ID fans are a bunch of elitists who loves to diss their fellow countrymen for asking the talents to speaks more Indonesian
that's actually fans from ID2, specifially Ollie and Reine's, ID1 are doing just fine

>>22564572
Yeah listen to the expert.
International taste is more geared toward the comfy chill types. I often see complaints about Kiara, Bae and Ollie here for being too "loud". Indonesian (and some SEA countries) prefer loud, chaotic and crazy streamers
>>22566553
What are you? A nijinig?

>>22558302
Zetafag mostly are gooks, they are actually as rabid as the chinks, while indos are tame compared to them.
There's a reason Ina and Kronii wont pander to them even though they are korean, as long as Kobo doesnt mention anything about religion and knows how to avoid related question about it, then it's fine

>>22566670
That's funny cuz bahasa beggars are mostly zomrades.
They did a poll about it and the majority of gen 1 & 2 audiences want a mix between English and Indonesian. It's not just limited to gen 2.

ITT burger flipper or retards who dont know shit about business, they think SC matter, even queen of SC like Coco said SC is just a crumb and just a small portion of her earnings
>>22566672
well not really, Tyler is loud as fuck and he's quite popular. And Kobo's loudness is kinda acceptable since she played a role of a children. I hate zomkek tough

>>22566932
i'm talking about the elites, especially since Ollie told the beggars to fuck off, i think reine did the same too... i don't know

>>22567049
You are confusing the streamer themselves with their fanbase.
Just check bahasa beggars names (if you find them on YouTube) at wesave.chat most of them are watching Ollie.

Fucking hell, I don't want to call myself an indog but you self hating Indonesian should call yourself indogs, you don't deserve to call yourself an Indonesian. Go to hell and reborn as Pakistani or Nigerian so you will experience how it feels to be born in a real hell, you don't even have the time to self hate your country because you have to struggle daily.

Unless you're planning to be in this industry for a short time like 1-2 years like Coco, donations isn't your main indicator. Growth is what matters. Vtubers like Kobo and Mythia can bring new fans outside your typical vtubers fans who watch HoloID, Niji(RIP)ID, Maha5, etc. at the same time. You need that kind of fans or ID vtubers will forever be static like Niji ID.
Growth is important for ID vtubers because the digital economy will keep getting bigger (ID is among the fastest growing digital economy in the world) so in some years in the future they could rake more cash than average JP.

"How is that possible? Indonesia is poor." By per capita yes, but by total, Indonesia is a trillion dollars economy with 4th biggest population, meaning even if people could only donate in average of $3, it will add up because hundreds are donating.

That's the main argument why Niji and Holo are opening their branch in ID, and Niji ID is axed because they see no growth. Simple as that.

>>22567386
calm down anon

>>22567386
You are taking /vt/ shitposts too seriously, now go back to Facebook

>>22558302
She's popular because she's underage. I will not elaborate any further.

>>22567656

keep spamming your tribalfaggotry rrat nigger maybe oneday someone will truly buy it

>>22564733
Oji-san is on vacation

>>22567656
Are you implying that Indonesia or Kobo's audience is full of pedos?
I mean child marriage is still a thing in Indonesia. I still remember that old fart syekh puji who married a 12 year old, now he married a 7 year old. The wild thing is he's not jailed. Pedos like him are roaming freely, If you don't hate Indonesia for this, then you are part of the problem. Indonesia has a lot of things to criticize for, don't defend your country mindlessly.

>>22567656
rain cunny
ToT

>>22568058
Damn i love Indonesia

>>22567386
I'll give you "Based" here, my fellow non self-hating indons.
But now please go back to Facebook or Reddit, this post is too quality and contains too much truth to be here.

>>22558302
Cute design, cute voice that actually manages to make that babble that passes for a language sound cute and a good singer. If she had been fluent in EN or JP and been in one of those branches she'd have been an absolute juggernaut of the vtuber industry. Instead she is destined to merely be impressive for an Indog.

>>22568425
You have Gura and Laplus
Don't take Kobo from us

>>22567386
dumb treerrat stop visiting the catalog

>>22565822
its fucking important nijikek, thats one of the reason your fucking branch got demolished, your oshi need food to live too

>>22569668
but you're not their manager, just a nobody in anonymous board who loves to seething and comparing each other chuubas donation earnings, so what's the point? what's the benefit you got from it? i still don't understand

>>22558302
Idk op, but from my observation the holoid who speaks indonesian the most got more views and subscriber i.e ollie, kobo, and moona. Maybe its just a coincidence who knows

>kobo need to speak english because SC has more money than local donations.
YES in the short-term, NO in long-term. She is in a good direction judging from how the community response, just look from the past streams, she could get 200 to 300 donation in a single stream (free talk mostly), and this is only a small amount compared to the whole community. And this thing is also help the future of HoloID branch to settle their market in ID.
>only 1$ donations
Don’t treat ID donations like regular donations, think of it as another chat box. You will often see the same name in the donation box, even if a person can donate 5 to 10 times in a single stream. Based on my experience, ID stream culture is based on the interaction between the streamer and viewers, the more you give them attention the more they like it. You don't need to answer all the questions they ask, just answer partially but often (like kobo does) and the interaction is not limited to questions but also suggestion (e.g backseating in outlast etc)
> indog poor
Not really, but one thing for sure indog just not rich
>I don’t like their languages
Ok


any more baits?

>>22567386
sir this is 4chan not reddit, call him a nigger and move on

>>22567922
Ah no wonder... What did he do this time?

>>22570368
You memoryholed iofi

>>22558302
Yeah, they should have looked at the runaway success of NijiID and realised speaking indog is the way to win.

>>22572592
not him but holy fuck, i actually forgot that iofi is a thing.

>>22572592
you shouldn't have mention iofi, i don't want my girl being dragged into this shit

>>22563800
Speak more english =/= speak mainly in english, at least i hope she won't neglect her EOP fanbase too much

>>22567386
too much quality for a post in a bait thread sir, please spare your effort for your actual job or journal paper

>>22567386
Risu definitely wrote this

>>22572650
NijiID is weird 2bh. They keep talking in Indonesian but from what I see it seems they never really do aby research on Indonesian's markert like keep playing JRPG, streaming at indonesian working hours, don't really follow Indonesian's streaming meta, etc. and beside, you also need to follow all of their twitter closely or you will feel excluded on their stream because they will bring anything that happened there to stream. I always think rather than ID market, NijiID is always cartering just to their existing fanbase and rarely try to go outside of their existing market save for some livers like Bobon and Mika

>I will use 3 languages at once, so that our content can be heard in all audiences. doesn't matter even if my content is boring

they are too focused on being accepted by all audiences rather than creating content that is not boring

>>22573568
>you also need to follow all of their twitter closely or you will feel excluded on their stream because they will bring anything that happened there to stream
no wonder sometimes i feel clueless when i'm watching their stream

>>22558302
Popular because looks and sounds like cunny, its not complex op. People want girls at peak breeding age

>>22573568
What's the indog streaming meta anyway? mobile games?

>>22574366
Yes, but only Mobile Legends and Free Fire, children love those games

>>22574366
mostly absurd local memes, games are not good here unless you're a god level

>>22574608
or gacha games

>>22574366
Beside this >>22574528 there's also valorant and fall guys ir just follow what Brando (windah basudara) or Lutfi Halimawan, the one who used to come to Ollie stream before, play. Any game they play will usually become meta except if their play some rpg to satisfy themselves once in a while
Then again rather than game, ID market prefer if you're abit loud, like to swear once in awhile understand their memes and keep chat and donos engaged whatever you do yes basically someone like Kiara that's why I'm not surprised when Kobo said she's her oshi

>>22572592
I forgot iofi exist, my bad

>>22567386
Actual treerat post from the actual treerat.

>>22563156
Indonesian is the best language in the world.
It's phonetic and has consistent grammar.
I'm not even Indonesian, I just worked there.

>22576031
Post an image of which ID is holding you at gunpoint. Don't respond directly or she might notice.