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>> No.22672925
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/#/ is inclining.

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>>22672877
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.22673091

APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,905 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,420 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,353 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,452 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,453 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,422 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,076 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,820 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,568 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,343 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,239 - APEX custom
12) Hal (Neo Porte) - 36,464 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,582 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,324 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,680 - APEX scrims
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 70,461 - APEX scrims
17) Hal (Neo Porte) - 165,033 - VSaikyo tournament

> PER COMPANY
13x: Hololive
4x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
6x: Aqua
4x: Hal
2x: Okayu, Pekora
1x: Calli, Subaru, Korone

>> No.22673160

>>22673091
Get your own format nigger

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>> No.22673550

>APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,905 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,420 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,353 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,452 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,453 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,422 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,076 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,820 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,568 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,343 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,239 - APEX custom
12) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,512 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,582 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,324 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,680 - APEX scrims
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 70,461 - APEX scrims
17) Hal (Neo Porte) - 165,033 - VSaikyo tournament

> PER COMPANY
13x: Hololive
3x: Neo Porte
1x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
6x: Aqua
3x: Hal
2x: Okayu, Pekora
1x: Calli, Kuzuha, Subaru, Korone

>> No.22673624

Moona 5K get

>> No.22673668
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The Calm before the JP prime times.

>> No.22673701
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Actual Winner from VSaikyo

>> No.22673722

>>22673624
Ollie debuff

>> No.22673765
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>>22673701
>largest growth of any vsaikyou players
>most views of any vsaikyou players
>won PCs for the whole team despite getting 16th worth more than the prize for getting 3rd place
Startend literally can't stop winning

>> No.22673778

So its matsuri apex gacha vs haachama totsu vs fuwas bday stream for gold huh

>> No.22673786

>>22673668
except the biggest holo stream scheduled right now is fucking Matsuri's apex gacha lol, haachama's RL totsu if her channel wasn't buttfucked.

>> No.22673827

It's been a month since Holofes, are the IDs permanently inclined?

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>>22673701
I hope this is true

>> No.22673857

>>22673778
Fuwa's probably getting gold. I don't trust Festival and Haachama to get big numbers

>> No.22673892

>>22673852
not on apex though.

>> No.22673903

>>22673852
No reason for them not to. Aqua and Suisei are both very popular. Much better than the forced Umisea garbage as well.

>> No.22673911

>>22673827
Possibly. It's not just Holofes though, ID3's debut was a huge success. Plus Moona's getting better than her regular MC numbers right now because of her collab with Kronii.

>> No.22673919

>>22673778
>>22673857
If Fuwa gets gold I bet the Hal won on the 12th dude will stop posting his shit since it no longer works to trigger nijinigs

>> No.22673922

>>22673827
IMO, since it appears Id3 has managed to tap into some of the ID market that wasn't interested before, best to give them a few more months to see if the 'oooo shiny' factor wears off or if they've actually managed to gain some permanent followers.

>> No.22673931

>>22673857
is fuwa gonna be 3D?

>> No.22673943

>>22673852
Interesting, I thought Towa would be kicked out already.

>> No.22673956
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>>22673857
>Haato will call her irl classmate
>They fucked up and actually using Haato real name
>Totsu turn into a big yab and mog Fuwa birthday stream.

>> No.22673980

>>22673722

It's 6k now, anon
What debuff you talking about?

>> No.22673989

>>22673922
Mika has more ID fans than ID3 combined together, I would say HoloID is quite late.

>> No.22674004

>>22673956
I doubt she'd even care since as far as I know she's one of the few where her roommate's real name is already well known

>> No.22674005

>>22673989
what's her average ccv without collabs?

>> No.22674006

>>22673989
Proof next thread?

>> No.22674015

>>22673989
>Mika
>ID Fans
i know it's bait, but it's literally like water and oil.

>> No.22674028

>>22674005
1/3rd of Kobo's and Moona's. Why do you ask?

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>>22673989

>> No.22674038

>>22673980
I'm making a joke about Ollie is a walking debuff.

>> No.22674066

>>22673931
Doesn't say on the video. Guess we'll find out later

>> No.22674071

>>22673892
Hopefully.

>> No.22674075

dude, fuwa's last totsu for his 500k got like 50k, there's nothing scheduled that can beat that, if you want to touch grass once in a while, today's the perfect day for that, i'm gonna watch my oshi's stream and see you tomorrow

>> No.22674096

>>22673852
Please release a song together. This group is better than NegiU or Umisea or Desupi.

>> No.22674110

>>22673989
>Mika has more ID fans than ID3 combined together
What?

>> No.22674136

>>22674004
Yeah but seriously Haachama is the testament to show how Cover will basically tolerate a lot of yabs coming from their talents

>> No.22674137

>>22674075
>pre-ccv cull
>post-NijiJP decline

I not so sure about that, anon....

>> No.22674147

>>22674071
Be prepared for Startend Season 2: Valorant-hen. Starts on Spring 2023!! I unironically want this.

>> No.22674182

>>22674147
not that shit game

>> No.22674185

>>22674147
I'll take it over more Asspex.

>> No.22674202

>>22674147
Valo suck ass for viewer.
Even Overwatch is much better for show, if the game still relevant.

>> No.22674207

>>22674182
Between that or Overwatch 2, pick your poison.

>> No.22674216

>>22674028
Where are the fans?

>> No.22674225

>>22674207
overwatch 2 will be dead on arrival

>> No.22674242

>>22674216
Watching Vox and Mysta

>> No.22674332

>>22674225
OW2 will be the next Lawbreakers. Which is kinda ironic

>> No.22674365

>>22674075
Anonchama surely even EOP must know 凸 since it's one of the most recognisable kanji and important for this thread, now look again at Fuwa's frame do you see that anywhere?

>> No.22674374

/#/ is declining.

>> No.22674387

>>22674332
>Lawbreakers
yeah but Blizzard has enough cash saved up to keep the dead game running, Lawbreakers didn't.

>> No.22674418

>>22674374
good

>> No.22674428

>>22671531
>>22672006
that wasn't Suha's first k-pop karaoke and most of his chat was in english yesterday. why you fags dont even look at context before. kek

>> No.22674452

>>22674428
The truth of the matter is that nobody actually watches or cares about NijiKR, hence the lack of discussions and baseless guesses

>> No.22674483

>>22674452
isn't this statement for nijisanji in general

>> No.22674488

>>22674428
Yeah, congrats to him for gaining a lot of fans. Hololive got blown the fuck up in another market again.
Maybe slow and steady is the key and not aggressively acquiring fans.

>> No.22674516

moona 7k get

>> No.22674524

>>22673550
Fake tally poster when will you stop this shit?

>> No.22674526

>>22674488
Imagine being offended over this when I didn't even mention anything about hololive.

>> No.22674531

god this thread sucks, i think i'm gonna try to go back to how i used to be, deprogramming caring about numbers is gonna be hard

>> No.22674535

>>22674488
kek

>> No.22674554

>>22674488
>Hololive got blown the fuck up in another market again.
>most of his chat was in english yesterday
????

>> No.22674558

>>22674452
so it's in the end just tribalism and no interest in analysis of numbers

>> No.22674572

Huh, Moona's in a pretty lucky timeslot. She's at 7K now.

>> No.22674596

>>22674531
for real, how do you deprogram caring about numbers ? tried doing that for a day but came back to this thread, again

>> No.22674612

>>22674488
When will Nijisanji blown the fuck up in another market except for China?

>> No.22674620

>>22674558
what fucking analysis do you want, this thread extends to "this number was bigger than this one today" and "the numbers are higher or lower this month compared to the last" and no real attempt to ever explain any of it, might as well just have the stats websites bookmarked and follow account that release charts once a month and that's it
fuck this thread is making me schizophrenic

>> No.22674628

>>22674558
The thread mainly discusses JP and EN numbers because that's what most of the anons here care about. ID gets brought up when they get big numbers like HoloID or Mika. But there's barely any KR fans so nobody really talks about them

>> No.22674630

>>22674524
you've been doing this non-stop for almost a fucking week now just shut the fuck up already

>> No.22674669

>>22674596
if you ever find out and leave please come back some day and tell me how

>> No.22674673

>>22674558
Laziness. No ez chat checks like Holochatstats
No ez SC analysis breakdown like Hololyzer
Vstats and vrabi are alright, but they lack some of the extras like Holostats...

>> No.22674701

>>22674531
There is no escape. No Recall or Intervention can work in this place

>> No.22674702

>>22674558
You can be the agent of change and try to analyze NijiKR if you know about KR vtuber scene. I want to try but I don't know anything about KR vtuber scene and so I'm not qualified to do that

>> No.22674719

>>22674558
no one cares about literal 2 views
not even you considering all you did was bitch about how no one did the work for you

>> No.22674741

>>22673701
They spread their influence on a competitive stage while also maintaining the storyline that it's their first and last time competing. Lots of new eyes were on them and who knows if they'll stay watching after their performance

>> No.22674766

>>22674673
No one actually cares about numbers anymore here. They all just want to see Hololive fail

>> No.22674768

>>22674452
I hate to break it to you but the KR audiences when to watch the rat than this wannabe.

>> No.22674776

Any news at all on Lauren return?

>> No.22674789

>>22674776
If there is, it'll be all over the catalog

>> No.22674807

>>22674766
Caring about numbers and wanting to see hololive fail isn't mutually exclusive

>> No.22674811

>>22674558
Anon Niji KR are so irrelevant that aside from rare outliers like that they get blown the fuck out on a daily basis by even the TW tally despite pandering hard to the JOP/EOP audiences, I'd love for every single midget to have fans here that can explain their current ups and downs but it's just not feasible

>> No.22674815

>>22674776
Someone save this guy from the JP's isolation chamber

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>>22673765
> A themed song well on it's way to 1M views.

The girls proved how well they make a story and create hype around anything. Even people who gave zero fucks about apex and vSaikyou were invested, that's power you can't buy.

>> No.22674850

>>22674820
Idols working hard on something sure is great.

>> No.22674870

>Make charts/datagraph to show HololiveEN numbers
>EN cope
>Show HoloJP numbers
>Last samurai cope
>Provide HoloID numbers
>Indog cope
>Provide Nijisanji numbers
>Nijicope
There's a reason everyday this thread filled with newfags and baitposters. The anons who care only show up at a specific time of the day.

>> No.22674873

>>22674596
What I did was find low view chuubas (I went with the low view nijiJP members) who are as talented or even more talented than people getting 10k+ and you can start to enjoy things without caring about how small their viewcount is. I now am just here to see news on what streams are happening and to see numbers for >fun

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Small players having a good afternoon. What gives? Lack of competition for the slot?

>> No.22674890

The vampire girl has not made her return in a year, this makes me feel like the Nippleboy might have gotten another job already.

>> No.22674894

>>22674820
Way to let a good portion of that huge audience down tho. Let's see how much new viewers they actually gain, or existing viewers lost. Iirc their numbers before the tourney announcement was 15k for aqua, 13k for suisei, and about 7k for towa

>> No.22674915

>>22674882
dead hours today apparently

>> No.22674918

It's in the middle of the afternoon in SEA, why are there so many people watching Moona?

>> No.22674929

>>22674882
Yes

>> No.22674930

>>22674488
>nothing about Hololive
>still shat on Hololive anyway

Why nipplenigger always be like this?

>> No.22674931

>>22673989
>https://www.tiktok.com/tag/mikamelatika
328.6K
>https://www.tiktok.com/tag/kobokanaeru
23.7M
not even close

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>>22674873
>I now am just here to see news on what streams are happening and to see numbers for >fun
kek, keep lying to yourself.

Everybody is here because the horse race is addictive. My oshi isn’t even in it and I’m here too watching it.

>> No.22674946

>>22674811
I'm pretty sure Nari, Hayun, Seffyna, Hada and Suha at least are almost all the time over 200. Nari for sure is above 500 and reaching 1k sometimes.
In any case im going to observe KR numbers post-merger for a few months and their content to see who will incline, if they have collabs, etc. ID as well.

>> No.22674948

>>22674918
She's the only Hololive member streaming right now, anyone who wants to watch something is probably flocking to her. And she's streaming Minecraft.

>> No.22674949

>>22674890
Speaking of, Is Roa not gonna return until the lawsuit is over?

>> No.22674952

>>22674870
There a reason why burgerland hours is the shittiest in /#/

>> No.22674963

>>22674918
Minecraft. She set a shared arc with Kronii

>> No.22674975
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>>22674428
>>22674452
>>22674558
different anon here. I sometimes talk about KR stuff but no one ever really responds so I only post rarely.

>> No.22674981

>>22674949
is she even gonna return at this point?
after seeing chiba and the nurse numebrs im not sure if it is even worth it.

>> No.22674983

>>22674931
>Tiktok
Do Holobronies really?

>> No.22674986

>>22674488
> NijiKR gets absorbed by JP.
> Gets good numbers in JP with EN chat.
> Somehow this relates to Hololive's market share???

You really can't enjoy your talents' success without getting a stomach ulcer over boogeyman Hololive. What a miserable creature.

>> No.22674990

>>22674949
>Is Roa not gonna return until the lawsuit is over?
Did the audience side with Roa or Meiro?

>> No.22674991

>>22674572
The benefit of being in the box and having a time slot all to yourself. The duck leveraged it into a massive incline.

>> No.22675003

>>22674612
Well....Nijisanji got many SEAnigger fan and many viewership came from that region.

AnyKara should try open Nijisanji ID then....wait....

>> No.22675005

>>22674986
Vtubers is a zero sum game
Every sub/viewer gained by Niji is a viewer/sub lost by Holo
So TICK TOCK HOLOKEKS

>> No.22675019

>12k watching Reid zatsudan
Is he saying something interesting? His voice sounds a bit more serious than usual

>> No.22675020

>>22674975
That's neat. So what happened in December/January that caused that massive incline, and where did she disappear to in March?

>> No.22675049

>>22674894
Go bait somewhere else, retard.

>> No.22675053

>>22674918
Maybe some tourists from her collab with Kronii.

>> No.22675055

>>22674983
anon asking for true indo fans, so here it is. cope more

>> No.22675066

>>22674894
see >>22673701

>> No.22675125

>>22675066
I'm genuinely surprised they inclined. I thought them choking the finals would make a lot of tourists lose interest

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>>22675020
every KR chuubas inclined around December/January even Isegye, revolution heart, project connect, some kr indies.

>> No.22675151

>>22674702
>KR vtuber scene
That gets folded into the twitch tallies where Isegye and Vshojo fight it out.
>NijiKR
Who?

>> No.22675177

>>22674952
All the Brazilians.

>> No.22675186

>>22675142
So something happened around that time that made the V-Tuber market incline massively in Korea

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>>22674932
>everyone in the world is the same as me
I did say I was here for the fun of the numbers so it isn't even that different than what you are saying, no idea why you think I'm lying to myself

>> No.22675202

>>22675125
If the tourists cared that much they'd be watching actual pros and not these tournaments.

>> No.22675210

>>22675066
>>22675125
Subs doesn't tell much I feel, haato's schizo arc incline and the subsequent hard recline should tell us something about it. Guessbwe'll see in a month or two whether they gained new audience or are just collecting pity/dead subs.

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>>22675020
>Massive incline
She recorded a donation TTS that got really popular, so she inclined a lot from that.
>where did she disappear to in March?
I only know the rumors, but according to an unconfirmed dox she was an actual K-Idol streaming in her spare time. Apparently she got into a conflict with her managers and so she had to take 1 month to leave her previous contract. When she disappeared she went away without a graduation so everyone thought she was murdered by the Yakuza or something. Her return stream was pretty emotional, I was there to see it too. I also have more stories about this particular chuuba, but that's a long story.

>> No.22675254

>>22675224
Kek. I wish I was there to see all the shitposting about her getting murdered by the yakuza. Sounds like a fun time

>> No.22675259

>>22675019
he's going to fuck Astel and Pakael in the ass.

>> No.22675263

>>22675125
They are first and foremost: Hololive
That affords them a certain measure of protection from choking. For who doesn't love the story of their favorites faltering, only to pick themselves up and have another go at it in the future, if not necessarily in an apex tourney, in something else?
Not to say that Nijisanji doesn't have their stories, but oh does Hololive LOVE their narrative arcs. And boy, do people absolutely love stories and the lovely arcs they trace.
>>22675186
Vtubers got on the news in Korea in January. I saw it got mentioned here, so it bumped up awareness of the niche and thus inclined everyone in that market.

>> No.22675268

>>22675210
>and the subsequent hard recline should tell us something about it.
Anon, Haachama took a 3 months hiatus after that when she went completely silent on all of her accounts.
Then she briefly came back when Coco graduated, then took another hiatus and then came back to once in a blue moon stream, unavoidably karaokes or zatsus.

Whatever you’re trying to compare has no relation to what happened to Haachama, whose massive growth actually started way before when she started her “HololiveEN0” arc, not the schizo arc

>> No.22675269

>>22675142
>>22675186
I don't know if this is connected with the incline but Isegye released their original in December

>> No.22675272

How did a Ame Megamind watchalong 24 mins clip get 200k views in 3 days?

https://youtu.be/96gEU6b9G2U

>> No.22675275

>>22674949
If it was the same case from Lulu then Niji will not let her stream until the lawsuit are finished just so they can build-up the damage for the lawsuit.

The same reason Lulu just quit instead of waiting in limbo.

>> No.22675286

>>22675202
Even if they're not mainly looking for action/skills performance, they can still be let down with the story/narrative from the unfortunate results.

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those gooks earn alot. This girl earned $12k in just two months. avg 400-600 ccv.

>> No.22675293

>>22673701
Winning in real life

>> No.22675303

>>22674986
he's obviously a falseflagger.
>>22674990
Roa. Meiro is completely hated for a while
>>22674981
Those numbers were their usual numbers. Sukoya always have been a 2k vtuber. Roa will probably be about the same whenever she returns. Im more hopeful for that happening compared to before because she tweeted after over a year.
>>22674946
to quote myself, I looked into suha's comments and it seems a lot of them are luxiem/noctyx fans. Yesterday he got 4k new subs due to that karaoke. Prior to it, his kpop karaoke reached about 1k
https://vrabi.net/channel/UCUtKkGKef8BYMs3h-3zQm9A

>> No.22675308

>>22675289
>cunny model
No wonder

>> No.22675311

>>22675272
Megamind is a great movie.
Fan like react content from their fav chuuba.

>> No.22675321

>>22675286
I'd be more worried about it if they also did well in the scrims then got blown out. Since they did poor in scrims and people still came to watch it probably didn't matter that much.

>> No.22675331

>>22675275
it's not the same case as Lulu. Roa's issue is with Meiro and Narukami. That's who she's fighting in court. It's not harassement from random so there's no need for that. Likely instead a recommendation from the lawyer until the process happens.

>> No.22675340

>>22675289
>>22675308
From what I've seen, she basically the Korean version of Pipkin Pippa. Basically the KR version of a /here/tuber.

>> No.22675442

>>22675331
still the same outcome, Anykara forced her to stop streaming for straightening the court case.

Lulu didn't like it and decide to quit
Roa just ok with it and not stream ever since

>> No.22675473
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I still believe Roa will come back bros, it isn't over till the fat lady sings

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>>22675254
Less shitposting more mourning. She basically did the impossible and converted livecam and titty stream viewers into vtuber viewers. Even the most infamous Korean Streamer board (who are some of the most notorious antis on the planet) was emotional about the whole thing. I've never seen that happen before.
>>22675289
Additionally, during the month she was gone, other indie vtuber were able to rise because they were looking for an alternative with her sudden disappearance. One of those who benefitted is the duck vtuber in that image.

>> No.22675506

>>22675272
megamind is le meme movie because of "no bitches", and also Vanillya might be the only clipper who overlays the reaction on the movie.

>> No.22675510

>>22675473
Moona probably has a karaoke pretty soon though...

>> No.22675514

what's this?
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1515963493140344836

>> No.22675527

>>22674983
because tiktok is big in ID
do nijinigger really?

>> No.22675571

>>22675514
Just a stern reminder and warning that they'll take legal action against slander and death threats. From the wording it seems they tried to nicely reach out for takedown but got ghosted, so they're warning legal takedowns are a thing.

>> No.22675591

Oh, it's Fuwa's birthday today. Likely will be the gold for ccv and SC.

>> No.22675597

>>22675286
There really isn't much story about them if you actually watched the scrims and not just some clips of Aqua killing people. Their placement has always sucked, the only reason they got high sometimes was because Aqua carrying the team with those kill points.

>> No.22675606

>>22675571
So what happened recently? I don't think there's something spicy happening in Niji recently

>> No.22675607

NIJI GOLD
>NIJI GOLD
NIJI GOLD
>NIJI GOLD

>> No.22675608

>>22675571
Probably browsing 4chan too much caused Niji intern to feel scared.

>> No.22675621

>>22675489
Pretty nice that she still managed to regain her audience after they already moved on to other Indie V-Tubers. Most streamers would start facing a decline once fans find a new alternative, like Pikamee. She must have been a really good streamer to get that type of reaction for her return

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>>22675510
That should be fine, at this point only full on architect vtubers like Polka or Himawari singing could end my hope and dreams

>> No.22675644

Niji gold
>Niji gold
Niji gold
>Niji gold
https://youtu.be/AxJjOga6HvQ

>> No.22675656

>>22675606
Probably just people unhappy they won VSaikyou and resorted to making death threats on 5ch.

>> No.22675680

>>22675606
Holo Researcher recently created subchannel named "Nijisanji Researcher" aimming for doxxing Nijisanji member.

>> No.22675685

>>22674207
Meh fuck OW2, Gundam Evolution is way better.

>> No.22675690

>>22675644
that's a good thumbnail.

>> No.22675693

>>22675125
Why are you surprised? They were one of the most entertaining teams, most people care about that and even proper hardcore apex autists know that results aren't the be all end all since they also follow pro apex. Hell there were many instances during the scrims of startend's numbers inclining while chatting in the lobby. The biggest apex streamers like daruma and arisaka, while also being very good, are so big is because they're fucking funny retards.

>> No.22675694

>>22675656
Why would anyone be angry at Kuzuha's team winning? Sure, ratting is boring, but they still won fair and square

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>>22675621
I mean yeah. Just look at this, who wouldn't want to watch this?

>> No.22675720

>>22675685
Is Gundam Evolution already released?
How hard to get permission from Bandai?

>> No.22675721
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>>22675644
Yes.

>> No.22675728

>>22675591
>>22675644
It's not a totsu or 3D so don't expect a huge CCV, last year despite getting $49k he only peaked at 22k

>> No.22675732

>>22675656
Can't possibly be that, there were some 20 Nijis in the competition

>> No.22675737

>>22675714
Googlebros its over…

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>>22675644
>you got this, friend!

>> No.22675758

>>22675714
>who wouldn't want to watch this
Well...
>numberfagging chuuba
This thread would be all over her?

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>>22675694
A real 5ch schizo would've already had a reason listed for making deaththreats towards each of the 20 teams, to cover all their bases no matter who wins

>> No.22675779

>>22675720
Network test was held last week and it was fucking great but I not sure about Bandai's permission tho because all I been seeing are Indies Vtubers playing this game.

>> No.22675782

The thing is we don't fucking know if haachama is being serious or not, there was a karaoke not too long ago where there was supposedly going to be an appearance from a friend but that friend turned out to be herself, I have no idea if she's seriously going to get college friends or not.
I do trust she'll break 10k today but I don't think she's going further than that, if I had to guess I'd say haachama's stream will be a 10k one and fuwa will be 17k~ish
Although festival might take the SC gold for the day, her gacha apex streams are huge usually

>> No.22675801

>>22675694
I guess. Not a single one of those teams could counter rats whereas a pro-pred tourney would have better ways to counter it. That's why it was kinda disappointing it turned out that way for STA. They should've gotten a coach to think of a way to counter rats, and sync Towa's IGL with the other two. But it'd be hard to find a coach like that, so it would've been better if like Towa pays rpr to review her scrims and give useful advices on what to do and what they can improve on. For the next scrim, they'll improve on that and so on until the tourney.

>> No.22675807

>>22675693
Because they did so poorly at the end, I guess. I thought people would want to memoryhole the whole event since people came to watch Aqua kick ass and climb the ranks through sheer murder. But they didn't even get a single round where they got to show off. But I guess I thought wrong

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>>22675694
Here's why, anon

>> No.22675831

>>22675812
Wait did Kuzuha and Ibrahim actually have alts in Master?

>> No.22675836

>>22675782
>there was a karaoke not too long ago where there was supposedly going to be an appearance from a friend but that friend turned out to be herself,
She got a college friend for a karaoke there before.

>> No.22675853

>>22675779
I wonder how big of an overlap Gundam fans and V-Tuber fans have. Mecha is a pretty niche genre, after all. Can it attract enough tourists?

>> No.22675858

>>22675782
>festival might take the SC gold
Normally the Apex gacha would but there's absolutely zero chance it beats Fuwa's birthday, I wouldn't be shocked if that got $80k or something similarly absurd

>> No.22675865

>>22675807
That's just how tournaments can go ultimately. Most people who follow stuff like vsaikyou, crcup etc understand that.

>> No.22675867

>>22675831
I think the main complaint was that Kuzuha despite being in his appropriate rank has like 2yrs of tourney experience and Ibrahim was drilled with 1yrs worth of comp crypto (done by Shibuhal himself)

So I guess it's more of an argument that highest rank have ceased being a reliable standard to form a team around.

>> No.22675872

>>22675831
Not that anyone knows, but their ratting performance can easily take them to master especially in season 12

>> No.22675876

>>22675693
>>22675807
Aqua's still getting good numbers but not as good as she could've got if they placed better. At the end of the day though, no one cares that much except here where people will bring it up whenever Aqua and video games is talked about.

>> No.22675878

>>22675853
>Gundam
>niche
>in Japan
Anon....

>> No.22675881

>>22675836
That one was much much earlier than the one I mentioned, plus I'm pretty sure that girl wasn't a college friend but someone she goes much further back with, And supposedly that girl was about to debut or something like that? Definitely not thr same as this

>> No.22675899

>>22675867
They should stop using Rank for the pts and use past performance in every tournament instead.

>> No.22675913

>>22675867
Ah yeah, makes sense, thanks.
>>22675872
That would actually make pretty good content if they 3 stacked their tournament team and all pushed to master together

>> No.22675926

>>22675876
>no one cares that much except here
Sure they don't care too much to unsubscribe from her but I'll defer whether they cared until we have a good median post comp desu

>> No.22675943

>>22675926
If only someone kept track of Pakeal after his legendary choke

>> No.22675948

>>22675807
Those Apex tourists already watched Pakael choking last year, anon. Watching a team that does mediocre in scrims save for one player in it gets 16th is definitely way better than that.

>> No.22675949

>>22675926
what do you expect as a "good median", she won't be getting anywhere near 30k, I assume 15k-20k would be good.

>> No.22675952

>>22675878
Okay, you got me there. I keep forgetting Gundam is way bigger in Japan than in the west. I guess it could be one of those games that is a buff for JP V-Tubers but not EN

>> No.22675970

>>22675913
>ratting in ranked for 20 minutes times 30+ matches til masters
>good content
Maybe for their preexisting fanbase, don't think it'll attract tourists that much

>> No.22675994

Aqua's numbers have always bee between 15-20k unless she goes away for a long time and comes back, she'll have a week of good numbed then fall back to her regular stuff
Now let's see if she'll still get huge numbers on apex or not, her regular median won't change but I wonder if her buffed one will

>> No.22675998

>>22675757
Man, it looks like some free stuff you can find on unity asset store

>> No.22676006

>>22675853
You don't know how obsess Gundam weebs are in Vtuber community. Take Kson for example, she accidentally made a Gundam reference and all of her gachikoi sent her expensive Gundam kits on her birthday.

>> No.22676016

How many team will join Tonight's Matsuri APEX Custom?

https://twitter.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1515952740144656387

>> No.22676020

>>22675949
By good I mean a good amount of data point to form a median. 5 as minimum, 10+ preferably. 15k-20k is just okay, below that is a distinct recline for aqua and above can be considered as slight incline.

>> No.22676024

>>22675970
StarsEN should get a pred or an ex-pred in Apex, that way they can leech Aceu or Timmy in pubs or rpr.

>> No.22676027

>>22675994
depends on what she does, if she only keeps going with apex, grind to masters, put out hooks for a pred team, then she can keep going with the buff she has. Not the 65 k median, but high 40k, easy. Will she? Probably not.

>> No.22676029

>>22675948
Don't remind me, poor boy.

>> No.22676040

>>22676016
ew matsuri you don't have any pull anymore

>> No.22676042

Feels like a sub-30k gold kind of day today

>> No.22676049

>>22676042
retard

>> No.22676056

>>22676042
I'm pretty sure Fuwa is locked in for at least 50k

>> No.22676057

>>22676027
No one here actually believes she will do apex masters in the near future right?

>> No.22676059
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Startend have been good clipping content at least

>> No.22676066

>>22676024
StarsEN
2-3 pro fps
1 minecraft speedrunner
1-2 variety streamers
I beliv

>> No.22676067

>>22676006
It just doesn't seem like a thing western weebs care about all that much. I've been hanging around weeb communities on Reddit and Twitter, and unless you specifically look for them, they barely ever come up. Even Gigguk made a joke about the mecha genre dying and he's normie incarnate

>> No.22676084

>>22676066
Nah EN just need a blue shota and we are good to go.

>> No.22676087

>>22676066
>EN pro FPS players
>Join HoloStars.
Yeah no. It'd be a miracle that HomoEN can find 1 guy that match their standard

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Speaking of KR, Twitch tracker anon, if you see any KR vtuber in the tally that's never been there before please remove them. Some chucklefucks from the Korean Streamer community is viewbotting them.

>> No.22676095

>>22676067
A normie wouldn't go to Japan and live there though.

>> No.22676094

>>22675948
This year's VSaikyou has a good 30-40% more tourists than last year anon. I'm 100% positive there are viewers that are let down with their performance

>> No.22676099

>>22676066
Maybe NijiEN could get that if they actively searched them out. No shot would anyone with those qualifications even apply to StarsEN rumao

>> No.22676110

>>22676057
Aqua said she wanted to get masters for the season, so we'll see.

>> No.22676113

>>22676040
Do you have trouble identifying jokes anon?

>> No.22676120

>>22675943
Did he choke again this year?

>> No.22676124

>>22676056
>Not totsu
Good luck with that.

>> No.22676129

>>22676057
Well she did say she's going to do another solo Master this second split, probably won't start until next 1 or 2 weeks though since apparently she's busy with some TV show. She also expressed interest in reaching Master with a stack instead during one of the scrims, and didn't feel like she likes the idea of grinding to Pred since she has said repeatedly that she doesn't have the time for that.

>> No.22676136

>>22676095
He only moved to Japan because he started a company there for his podcast with the other two and they wanted to do it in person. He's lived in Thailand before so living abroad isn't just some weeb fantasy fulfillment thing. He's still pretty fucking normie unless liking Isekai anime makes you a non-normie

>> No.22676151

>>22676129
>startend pubstomp to masters
I mean, I'd watch it, Suisei screaming at the top of her lungs trying to desperately survive not getting fragged by enemy 3 stacks sounds like a great time.

>> No.22676152

>>22676059
From what I've seen startend, astel and kuzuha's team have gotten the bulk of the clips but I haven't looked closely and gathered data.

>> No.22676153

>>22676067
Really? I hang around when kson do her build streams and all her EN audiences know what Gundam is about.

>> No.22676155

>>22676110
Yes I'm well aware of that
There's no way she'll do it despite that, maybe in a year

>> No.22676157

>>22676120
Is the sky blue?

>> No.22676166

>>22676056
Stop hyping this up so much so you can grudgepost later, Niji birthday streams don't get amazing CCV how do you people not know this by now

>> No.22676167

>>22676157
Touche

>> No.22676174

>>22676120
He did middling, so arguably yes?

>> No.22676179

>>22676166
how new?

>> No.22676180

>>22676153
An EN audience who watches Kson and spefically is in the process of watching Kson build Gundams knows about the existance of Gundams? You don't say

>> No.22676192

>>22676087
You do realize there's literally tens of pred streamers who's a two view on twitch? You think they won't join? The only real requirment aside from being good at apex/valorant is probably singing ability kek. But even if his singing is bad, he could use anything else to his advantage. There's also being a VA and also have a trap design. I don't what to feel about this though.

>> No.22676194

>>22676166
His last event cleared 50k, I think its a possible ceiling for him to clear. He clearly has the audience

>> No.22676217

>>22676151
It'd be kino as fuck but it'll never happen unfortunately.

>> No.22676233

>>22676192
StarsEN is going the yaoibait route and all of them are just bishis who talk about sucking each other off while grinding pred together

>> No.22676241

>>22676194
I'm expecting at least 70k, since nijisanji has been inclining lately.

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>>22676059
Astel got a couple of good ones as well

>> No.22676244

>>22676194
That was a totsu this isn't

>> No.22676248

>>22676094
>I'm 100% positive there are viewers that are let down with their performance
Oh for sure, probably some holo-only watchers who thought Aqua would slay everyone in the lobby after watching the clip of her getting 10 kills and clutching a 1v3. Your usual Apex tourists though, as in those who came for Apex not the players, would already have low expectation on them after seeing the scrim results. They had potential for turnaround in round 4 and 5 since there's no kill limit, but after placing badly in the first three rounds they already knew there's no way this team is gonna place well.

>> No.22676269

>>22676244
bro?

>> No.22676270

>>22675656
Kek no wonder Anycolor is taking action.
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1515963493140344836?t=LRkK3EM17t4dacpaZEdjGg&s=19

>> No.22676272

>>22676269
Retard.

>> No.22676303

>>22676153
It's just something I've noticed as a seasonal anime watcher. I'm not that big of an /m/ fag myself, but even I noticed that mecha anime doesn't get as much fanfare and discussion whenever a new season rolls around. Like, yeah, Kyoukai Senki isn't the best mecha anime out there, but the fact that there's more discussion for the Grimoire of Zero spin-off on r/anime is wild to me

>> No.22676309

>>22676248
Getting last place twice in the rows was literally destroying their morale.
I don't see anything good would happen after that

>> No.22676311

>>22676272
sneed

>> No.22676358

>>22676270
Translation?

>> No.22676378

>Nijisanji has any sort of event
>Holofags: "nijigold, guaranteed 50k!"
>Nijifags explain why it possibly won't do that well
>Event happens and fails to live up to the holofag expectations
>"Lmao fucking nijiniggers told us this would win gold"
I've seen this exact same song and dance dozens of times in this thread

>> No.22676414

>>22676059
Does anybody know total viewers last vsaikyou 3? I’d like to estimate how many viewers came in to watch top holos play Apex

>> No.22676421

>>22676378
How do you know Holofags who set expectations?

>> No.22676422

Fuwa 100k tomorrow, you can screencap this

>> No.22676436

>>22676378
Anon, you are assuming "holofags" and "nijifags" when it is actually "lulzfags" doing it for the lulz

>> No.22676452

>>22676421
Schizophrenia, many such cases

>> No.22676474

>>22676414
Err I can only remember King getting peak ~80k and Emperor getting peak ~120k. For the others though sadly I can't say anything.

>> No.22676483

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmVGKfz0MEs&feature=youtu.be
>Chloe wasting her first orisong slot for a short shit for tiktok and proceed to make the second orisong another short shit
Stinky orca really need a correction.
I beg of you orca please consider to release proper songs and release an album, there is a potential to milk more money from music revenue....
Also fuck you for using that cutesy voice more often than your sexy voice for karaoke stream.
She did said there's a reason behind the short orisongs, but I wonder if money is also another factor, like making it short so she can stay within Cover's budget
Numberchads, you think she can incline more with her music at her current state?

>> No.22676490

Moona boxpushing her viewer to her kouhai again...

>> No.22676497
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>>22675514
If I have to guess this is about the spammer in Iinchou's waiting rooms. Iinchou is pretty well-known for having active waiting rooms and the spammer seems to target that aspect specifically.

She ended up switching to subs-only for waiting rooms.
https://twitter.com/MitoTsukino/status/1515087782007685120

>> No.22676511

>haachama starts the stream
>call comes from an irl friend
>it's a male with a really deep voice
>she puts a picture of him on screen and he's a huge burly muscular white male who's a year or two older than her
Yab needs to happen, it NEEDS to happen

>> No.22676532

>>22676511
>Haachama is getting bleached
>cucks all the Haatons
>asks for them to draw rule 34 of her and her "friend"
sasuga strongest idol

>> No.22676540

>>22676358
Cases where people on YouTube, Twitter and other platforms abuse livers has been increasing, and although the official has directly contacted to individuals not to do that, there was multiple cases of people responding with lack of respects(including ignoring).

>> No.22676549

>>22676483
>making it short so she can stay within Cover's budget
Anon she writes these herself, budget has nothing to do with it it's just easier to make shorter songs as an inexperienced songwriter

>> No.22676584

>>22676490
What a nice senpai... also Ollie's original song has the same producer as Red Heart right? It sounds similar in some parts.

>> No.22676585

>>22676303
Did mecha fans just become more insular as the industry moved away from their genre?

>> No.22676587

>>22676483
If she actually used THIS voice for her Karaokes, did a few more cover songs with this voice, and released a single that managed to really, REALLY catch? Possible.

>> No.22676592

Jollie Jollie really sounds like Red Heart, but i wouldn't call it a rip-off of haachama's orisong because it's always had been KOTONOHOUSE's signature style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc09ciEdgVE

>> No.22676602

>>22676540
>there was multiple cases of people responding with lack of respects(including ignoring).
I assume Anycolor is counting on winning the Roa case to unleash hell on other troublemakers

>> No.22676617

>>22676584
Yes.

>> No.22676654

>>22676309
That second game was insane, Met's team rotated away from the zone to go straight at startend, caught them unprepared then later that game did more retarded shit that I thought they were intentionally trolling and finished the tournament 20th. I know it wasn't intentional because Met loves Towa but they basically fucked both themselves and startend.

>> No.22676661

>>22674894
See the funny thing is, her solomas streams were getting PEAKs of around 30-35k with only the last one crossing 50k.
This entire tournament, her FLOOR was hovering between 40 and 60k.
There were at least 40k people watching them shoot the shit with each other or play with the Ready button in the lobby or talk about random shit like their favorite Sushi or about Senchou's drawing or Miko sending her a DM.
That's at least 20k NEW people who were interested enough in their team's atmosphere to stay for their entire streams, even when they WEREN'T playing Apex.

Esportsfags are used to their favorite team losing, it happens quite often. So this isn't really anything new to them.
But Esports teams aren't anime girls, and most of them don't make anime arcs about their tournament runs.

The VOD obviously grew by at least 2x as well, that's a LOT of new eyes on you who may not even have known of hololive before.

They've already gotten a lot of numbers from this tournament, and probably a few new fans as well.

>> No.22676669

>>22676592
>sounds like Red Heart
It's the signature tuning of KOTONOHOUSE, and despite reminding of Red Heart it is too far away for even a single mention in the comments so far

>> No.22676674

Ok, predictions for how long it'll take for Ollie to reach 500k? Will it reach it or will it become another Iofi song.

>> No.22676681

>>22676669
>despite reminding of Red Heart it is too far away for even a single mention in the comments so far
I think it's a bit recognizable. Even Moona thought it kinda sounded similar.

>> No.22676692

>>22676661
A few of her peaks in solomas were around 40k, anon.

>> No.22676719

>>22676585
Probably? The last time a mecha anime got mainstream was probably Darling in the Franxx, and that isn't really a show people watch for the mech fights.

>> No.22676722

Collab between Koyori and Chloe has the first 10 minutes with pink dog 600 CCV ahead but 400 likes behind.

>> No.22676729

>>22676474
Thanks. Its still useful since those two are probably the most important. King had around the same peak this time if I’m not mistaken. But Emperor had 167k. Kuzuha was the previous big draw but now there’s Aqua. I would say its safe to assume Aqua brought 40k holotourists to see through the end with Hal. How much would stick continuing to be Apex watchers is anybody’s guess though. the rate might be higher than expected since they actually bothered to go to Hal’s stream than remain with Aqua.

>> No.22676733

>>22676692
ah yeah, the early ones.
point still stands though.

>> No.22676759

>>22673903
For the last time, Umisea is Marine's thing.

>> No.22676792

>>22676719
Yeah I would say TTGL or Code Geass were the most popular mecha but even in those, mechs were a backseat to the characters and story.

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Chloe should EASILY get more viewers than Koyori but she either struggles to do so or straight up can't. Easily the deadsub queen among council + holox.

>> No.22676801

>>22674452
>>22674558
> low numbers
> /#/ doesn't watch them
> neither does anyone else

>> No.22676807

>>22676759
Didn't mean it was forced by Cover, but "forced" like a group of people without chemistry. The whole thing was just kind of weird and stiff.

>> No.22676833

>>22676801
>Why can't we talk about my 200 sub indie, tribal fags?

>> No.22676852

>>22676793
I wonder what sort of expectation her subs had that wasn't met. Her early growth was quite impressive then just died.

>> No.22676857

>>22676793
>Chloe should EASILY get more viewers than Koyori
Why? Genuine question

>> No.22676870

>>22676793
a game can be a buff for one person and debuff for another
just like whenever Gura plays a puzzle game

>> No.22676878

>>22676511
>>22676532
The thing is, haatons would unironically oblige kek
Maybe then magowasabi can stop the dark skins in his fanbox, I never understood why nip artist draw men with that shade

>> No.22676896

>>22676807
It really wasn't, by the minecraft collab it was damn good. Achan' interjections made the first one awkward, but even Aqua was laughing her ass off during the minecraft one. But bear in mind thet don't full share a language and thse were literally some of their first streams together

>> No.22676898

>>22676792
See, that's where the misconception comes from. The mechs have always been a set dressing for a mecha anime. If you replace the Gundams with tanks or fighter jets, you'd still get the same coherent story. A show is always carried by the characters and story. But there's just something about mecha anime that doesn't really attract tourists, whether it be the mechanical details or the larger scope stories.
And please, half the hype of TTGL was seeing the titular Gurren Lagann get into bigger and more over the top fights. The mechs are a huge part of that show.

>> No.22676910

>>22676793
Keepers prefer watching her solo streams while Assistants will watch literally anything pink dog throws at them

>> No.22676913

>>22674981
>>22674990
I'm pretty sure her audience has already moved on.
She wasn't even on twitter for an entire year (Oct 2020 to Dec 2021).
Zero fan interaction for a year.
Anyone that's left are probably diehards.

Most people tend to forget you if that happens, which is why Marine is doing art off-stream, and why Kanata regularly reports on her health in both Youtube and on Twitter.
Entertainment is plentiful on the Internet and it's VERY easy to get memoryholed if you aren't active.

>> No.22676919

>>22676584
>>22676592
Imagine if this one gets 5 million views, I'd kneel to kotonohouse

>> No.22676921

>>22676898
>And please, half the hype of TTGL was seeing the titular Gurren Lagann get into bigger and more over the top fights. The mechs are a huge part of that show.
fair, but they weren't the main thing, it was the character arc of Simon and Kamina.

>> No.22676930

>>22676857
More subs should mean a higher audience pool to pull from. If you're watching a collab between Botan and Nene, you'd expect Botan to get more viewers

>> No.22676935

>>22676793
as someone who follows koyo's numbers, it honestly depends on the game, they tend to switch places on multipovs, but generally chloe will win like 80-90% of the time, but sometimes koyo has weirdly stronger ones, it could unironically swap as the hour advances

>> No.22676968

Hello number friends, is there a way I can monetize a Holo fan game? Or should I just forget about it and upload holo fan made content on YouTube instead? Unless those are unmonetizable as well

>> No.22676967

>>22676896
Ngl the only thing I remember from that time was when haachama walked in on the aqua and marine collab, seeing aqua like that was fucking hilarious... Other than tha I can't think of many other memorable moments

>> No.22676986

>>22676793
their average is only a few hundred apart, that's pretty negligible.

>> No.22676987

>>22676878
>I never understood why nip artist draw men with that shade
For the same reason they make the promiscuous chicks either gyaru or blonde: it's exotic

>> No.22676994

In more abstract but pretty valuable number news Kiara talked a bit about financials during one of her tangents in the member stream.
She mentioned that "they" (presumably meaning EN) aren't millionaires after taxes. She is however planning on buying 2 Appartments and renting them out in the near future while clarifying that she's not buying them upfront but with credit/mortgage.
Both of those statements seem reasonable given covercut and taxation being theft, particularly since they are individuals that are earning stupid amounts of money in a short timeframe also since Cover clearly isn't using regular company tax minimisation strategies like work cars, paying employees rent or the like.
Mortgage for property purchase being obviously the smart solution even if you could pay out of pocket since that's literally waste.

However her being able to comfortably buy 2 Appartments that don't require renovation gives us a decent idea about income.
On the other hand it should curtail some of the more insane shizo delusions about merch profits.

>> No.22677010

>>22676921
The bond between Simon and Kamina, and Simon's eventual growth and character development, are the crux of TTGL's story. But the lasting audience impact is the over the top action and catchphrases. Sort of like how people mainly remember Overwatch for the porn and not the gameplay

>> No.22677012

>>22676674
7 months

>> No.22677038

>>22676968
You can read the fanwork guidelines on the official page
https://en.hololive.tv/terms

>> No.22677047

>>22676674
I'd say in the ballpark of 2-4 months maybe?

>> No.22677052

>>22676935
Chloe winning in terms of ccv wouldn't be something to write home about. It's the fact that she struggles to win against someone with fewer subs and with even fewer expectations that is fucked.

>> No.22677056

>>22676930
>More subs should mean a higher audience pool to pull from.
That even has a name here anon: ratiocope. If there was ANY truth at all to that Pewdiepie wouldn't be getting 7k to 17k audience in his lives.

A subscription only means a person clicked the "subscribe button", no more, no less. It doesn't mean that person will receive the notification of the live stream (unless they also click the bell), it doesn't mean the person will be in a position to watch the stream live (specially for those with subscribers in multiple time zones) and it doesn't even mean the person wants to watch that person live, as opposed to wanting to get more of that channel VODs on their recommends.

There is no relation between subs and ccv, Pewds prove that otherwise on one side and Hal (with his 743k subs) prove that otherwise on the other side

>> No.22677059

>>22676792
>mechs were a backseat to the characters and story
...yes thats how mech anime is supposed to work. gundam is about how terrible war is and about how teenager who get forced to fight in those get mentaly fucked up

>> No.22677065

>>22677038
Cool, thanks

>> No.22677075

>>22676968
Best would be to shill your patreon or smth.
Donations are fine, paywalling content is not.

>> No.22677095

>>22676994
Somehow doubt someone like Gura would share her financial situation or discuss it, and Mori is probably making the most. I would only take Kiara's words as fact for Kiara

>> No.22677096

>>22676994
> getting into debt with an unstable career
this retarded Chicken...

>> No.22677100

>>22676968
>monetize
>game
No. Go with fan made content.

>> No.22677101

>>22677065
Long story short: hobbyist is fine, commercial is not.
Receiving donations or having a patreon is fine, having anything not publicly available for free is not

>> No.22677109

Kou 10k

>> No.22677126

>>22676994
>Kiara is becoming a landleech despite making a massive amount of money from Hololive to live off of
Can't believe I thought I couldn't hate this fucking autistic chicken anymore

>> No.22677133

>>22677109
so weird to see kou who's normally a sub 3k being in the tally 2 days in a row, the power of apex i guess

>> No.22677136

>>22677056
Subs is like giving a recognition to the channel, similar to a like on a video?
More subs = more people like what your channel provides, doesn't mean they will tune in.
I'm just pulling my thoughts out from my ass lol.

>> No.22677150

>>22677109
Surely the surprise of this tournament. What cause his sudden burst in popularity, was he absent and suddenly came back, was he always there lying low?

Never even seen him mentioned here before and I'm genuinely curious

>> No.22677154

>>22675757
Tokyo ghoul.....
Dang I miss calling him that

>> No.22677167

>>22674890
If she come back she might need something to build up her name again or else she will just falling into low-tier like many other Nijis. Sukoya returned 1 month ago and now just 1k - 2k chuuba.

>> No.22677170

>>22677056
>>22677136
So she has the most disinterested subscriber base among the new holo talents. Got it.

>> No.22677171

>>22677154
I miss that too
Now, everyone calls him King and forgets about Tokyo Ghoul...

>> No.22677178

>>22677056
the biggest example of this are music channels, some have a pitiful amount of subs for how many views their songs get

>> No.22677191

I think Ollie should've done a rock song for her orisong instead of the safe choice. It would've been better for her numbers. Her Hey Kids cover reached 2m, which is better than every other ID except Moona.

>> No.22677202
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22677202

>>22677109
Post tourney buff, glad for him though. Kou's otaku talk needs to be noticed by more people.

>> No.22677203

>>22677136
>Subs is like giving a recognition to the channel, similar to a like on a video?
For many, yes. It's an impulse click
>oh, nice video *pushes sub button*

>>22677170
You can think whatever you want about it.

>> No.22677211

see, koyo slowed down and chloe keeps growing, she's getting passed

>> No.22677212

>>22676066
StarsEN wants idols, astel and aqua are lucky gacha pulls

>> No.22677217

>>22676994
Stream and Timestamp?

>> No.22677220

>>22677096
??? People need places to live anon. If she can find people to rent them out to they'll pay for themselves.

>> No.22677223

>>22676878
>I never understood why nip artist draw men with that shade
Contrast, it makes things way easier to differentiate in uncolored works
You'll notice that if the girl is gyaru or tanned they usually go for light skinned males.

>> No.22677231

>>22677170
She's pretty fucking boring ngl, even the whole "2nd rushia" thing isnt working out for her except maybe in the SC department... Other than that she's meh at best

>> No.22677232

>>22676669
I listen to it once and already found the similarity, but still unique enough to be Ollie original

>>22676674
7 to 8 month to reach 500k.

>> No.22677234

>>22677170
In other words, dead subs! Good on you for getting it.

>> No.22677237

This should have good numbers, Suisei Tetris + post tourney zatsu buff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SqekjVRcuE

>> No.22677254

>>22676994
Kiara probably got fucked with 70%+ European tax rate

>> No.22677257

>>22677150
I mean it's literally a post tournament zatsudan. People that watched the tournament are interested in that sort of thing. It likely won't last.

>> No.22677266

>>22677237
Probable gold right here

>> No.22677269

>>22677237
Won't reach 30k

>> No.22677273

>>22677237
GOLD

>> No.22677277

>>22676994
anon, remember the golden rules for kiara talking about business or money. If its about herself, take it with a big pinch of salt. If its about someone else, ignore it entirely.

>> No.22677278

>>22677237
19-21k

>> No.22677288

>>22677277
On what basis?

>> No.22677289

https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1515525460624560130

120k likes

>> No.22677290

>>22677191
Kyouran Hey Kids is a super buff song. Also Ollie cover it when she's at her peak I think ?

>> No.22677294

>>22677203
I heard from a friend from Indonesia, he said that many ID viewers create many accounts to sub on a channel to get a chance to win prizes provided from the channel owner and the sponsor, so you can see inflated sub channels a lot.
Not sure how true and how often this happens in other countries though.

>> No.22677295

>>22677266.
>>22677273
I wouldn't go that far but it's probably going to be top 3. Gold will either be a Kuzuha or Aqua post tourney zatsu, and if they don't do them, just Pekora Elden Ring

>> No.22677301

>>22677150
He won vsaikyo alongside kuzuha and ibrahim

>> No.22677303

>>22676674
It sucks and Ollie isn't known for her singing ability so 6 months

>> No.22677304

>>22677096
Rentable spaces pay themselves off in about 12-17 years

>> No.22677305

>>22677290
is it? Have other holomems covered it to big numbers?

>> No.22677306

>>22677096
Nah, investing in housing is not bad assuming you have access to a market were renting is both in demand and highly contested.
If Austria is anything like were I'm from (still eu) having apartments to rent out is massive income, assuming you get good renters and not mongoloids.

>> No.22677309
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22677309

Keep on doomposting about Chloe being behind Koyori you guys, it's making her stronger

>> No.22677321

>>22677295
Can you read? I said GOLD

>> No.22677325

Now that things quieted down, what mania ever made people superchat Chloe so much? What was she doing to get the supas to that degree?

>> No.22677339

>>22677295
>Aqua post tourney zatsu
100% not happening lol

>> No.22677342

>>22677309
outside of numbers, it's funny seeing them close, they had a bit in raft where they acted like marine's daughters, and they tend to get invited together to things

>> No.22677345

>>22676994
>However her being able to comfortably buy 2 Appartments that don't require renovation gives us a decent idea about income.
Anon, if she's buying two apartments in any german speaking country in Europe (Germany, Austria, Switzerland), to get the loan approved
1) she's is putting a 20% down payment, minimum
2) she's is showing enough income to be able to pay at least 50% of the cost
other than that, even being under 35, they wouldn't be approving her loan.

It's a smart investment too, she'll be out of her down payment but, from that moment on, she'll have a passive income because her loan monthly repayment will be lower than the rent she will be collecting.

Don't use that to discount the level of income she's taking tho, she may not be buying it in cash money outright but she must have shown proof she could to secure the loan

>> No.22677351

>>22677325
She has the cutest voice out of gen 6, that's the biggest factor I think, probably also did some baiting like Rushia though.

>> No.22677369

>>22677309
Dead subs
Dead SCs when 30% of it is given to YouTube while splitting 50% to Cover especially so when she's milking it in membership streams now where data isn't available
Talentless whore using post processing to make her sound cool in her originals
10k guaranteed you're welcome

>> No.22677375

>>22677309
>>22677351
not really, she just said she liked money on her debut and lot of people got the ayame thing for her at the start

>> No.22677381
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22677381

>>22677294
sounds similar to what japs do during AKB elections; they buy the same single many times just for the ballots and dump the CD's at a landfill because they're useless junk now. this causes a massive inflation on their album sales.

>> No.22677384

>>22677294
That happens in south america as well, but usually for channels in their low thousands. That doesn't really happen for channels in their hundreds of thousands subs

>> No.22677386

>>22677231
Bro she can't even get as much superchats as that fujo pandering nijihomo this year. She's not even a discount Rushia. She's supposedly the singer of her gen but none of the original songs she shat out can even get 1 million views months later and her sole cover is still stuck at 1 million views while you got Laplus with a 12 million views cover. Easily the biggest waste of potential in recent holo memory.

>> No.22677389

>>22677369
Meds now

>> No.22677409

Oh Chloe shizo is back

>> No.22677429

>>22677409
can't even talk about her current stream while it's the only thing going on without some fucker coming with a full ass list of everything he hates about her, schizophrenic behavior for sure

>> No.22677448

>>22677289
She's one in a million. Cover is lucky to have her.

>> No.22677457

>>22677345
I'm agreeing with you

>> No.22677464

>>22677409
Is a Chloe schizo a fancuck?

>> No.22677478

>>22676994
Not going to speak on the validity of this as I personally doubt people like Gura and Mori aren't millionaires.

What I will say however is that Kiara proves once again that she has loose lips. A well timed superchat about youtube's bullshit culling to Kiara is probably our best chance to get somebody in HoloEN to actually talk about it.

>> No.22677480

>>22677369
You realize that Cover takes a cut from everything right?
And that YT's cut for ads is 55% right?

>> No.22677481

>>22677464
Most of the Holo related schizos are either free roamers or nijifags.

>> No.22677488

>>22677464
it's just gen 5 schizo and his perpetual hatred for new HoloJP gens

>> No.22677491

>>22677309
>10 minutes until the next hour slot
>2 more HoloX stream hovering around 9k
Lmao, someday they will get on the tally bros, someday....

>> No.22677502

>>22677464
either gen5 schizo or one of those fuckers that takes the gura killer jokes dead seriously and grudgeposts for months on everyone that ever gets called that

>> No.22677503

>>22677309
>800k subs vs 500k subs
>negligible difference

>> No.22677514

>>22677478
I thought she talked about the cull already?

>> No.22677530

Why do they call him a schizo when everything he said was the truth? Don't really understand this hugbox mindset

>> No.22677545

they're both on 9,7k, this is unfair blueballing

>> No.22677546

>RATIOCOPE

>> No.22677551

Now hes replaying to himself

>> No.22677558

>>22677530
>t.that schizo

>> No.22677561

>>22677295
Peko minecraft, continuing the suba-haaachama-pekora story.

>> No.22677566

>>22677491
Only thing starting at 19:00 is a premiere on the main channel

>> No.22677571

>>22677530
t. obviously not that guy

>> No.22677612

Genuine question, how did Laplus get 12m on her cover while everyone else struggles to get a million? Is it because she released it close to her debut or it got picked up by the algorithm?

>> No.22677624

>>22677478
>Not going to speak on the validity of this as I personally doubt people like Gura and Mori aren't millionaires
You seriously underestimate taxation. It's been a year and a half since they joined. And that's before considering expenses.
>What I will say however is that Kiara proves once again that she has loose lips
I don't really see how this is "loose lips".

>> No.22677627

is there a way to see sort by most viewed videos on a music channel? Suisei's channel is designated as a music channel which seems to remove the ability to sort by most views easily the way you can with normal youtube channels, but surely there's a way right.

>> No.22677628

I can't believe cover got themselves a bigger flop gen than gen 5 and council

>> No.22677638

>>22677612
It's just a really good cover

>> No.22677640

>>22677488
>>22677502
gen5, gen6 schizo wouldn't likely exist at all if only JP retards shut the fuck up and just cheer on EN. They're still Hololive in the end of the day ffs.

>> No.22677645

>>22677612
It's a good cover

>> No.22677649

>>22677612
unironically the cover itself is really good which helped a lot. People actually like it and want to listen to it. I think it's even the best version of the song I've heard.

>> No.22677653

>>22677628
there's almost 20k people watching them on the 6pm slot? if that's a flop what's 95% of vtubers lmao

>> No.22677659

>>22677389
that anon was clearly joking...

>> No.22677661

>>22677381
This is why fujos are stupid in the way they spend. They know they aren't gonna keep that stuff and are just contributing waste to environment just because of a 1 minute chat with Kuzuha. Yearly events like the one Hololive did for valentine's was okay for $47/min. It cuts out the bullshit.

>> No.22677665

>>22677640
>just cheer on EN
What are you smoking

>> No.22677668

>>22677627
Copypaste the URL suffix from a normal channel

>> No.22677673

>>22677612
Some songs just get blessed by the algo anon
Why the fuck did haachama's "cover" if veah reach 1.7 million views when legit covers fail to break 500k more often than not

>> No.22677675

>>22677640
Stop being easily baited by Nijifags and legitimate schizos.

>> No.22677682

>>22677640
>if this completly unrelated thing would not happen then the shizos wouldn't exist
i would love to have you explain how the hell you came to this conclusion

>> No.22677687

>>22677612
Bingo. She took advantage of the debut hype and stuck the thing in the algo. Like how R. I.P isn't anywhere near Mori's best but keeps taking in so many views

>> No.22677690

btw, both chloe and koyo got 10ks

>> No.22677689

>>22677612
it's already 6 months and it still showed on my recommendation & it's a good cover.

>> No.22677695

>>22677345
Why would she want to buy an apartment? Won't buying land near a tourist spot and build a house for Airbnb visits is better in the long term?

>> No.22677697
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22677697

>>22677640
No

>> No.22677705

>>22677640
>They're still Hololive in the end of the day ffs.
I fucking hate tribalfags the most, kill yourself

>> No.22677706

Koyoris inclined or something? Or is it Chloe thats fallen off? Even if the game wants you watch POVs Koyori shouldn't be able to match CCVs with the gen front runner.

>> No.22677709

>>22677640
>cheer on EN
I would if they only start performing well

>> No.22677710

>>22677627
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5CwaMl1eIgY8h02uZw7u8A/videos?sort=p

just add ?sort=p onto the videos url

>> No.22677715

>>22677668
genius, nice

>> No.22677716

>>22677612
Kind of, yes. First song + it was close to their debut so the tourists were still staying + it was released when God-ish was getting popular + it's actually kinda good. Once it gets an explosive headstart it's just a matter of time until Youtube algo starts working its magic.

>> No.22677729

>>22677386
Anons might call you a schizo but at least you don't lie about her numbers lol. Keep fighting the good(?) fight chloeschizo

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22677755

>SORRY PINK LAMY
10k is for grownups

CHLOESCHIZO STATUS

>[] COMFY WATCHING HIS OSHI
>[x] ON SUICIDE WATCH

>> No.22677765

>>22677729
Its pretty cringe how tribalfags will plaster the "schizo" name on anything that hits too close to home

>> No.22677771

Stop replying to yourself it's embarrassing

>> No.22677781

>>22677561
Gold right there unless Kuzuha does a zatsu

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22677794

>>22677755
Anon, pink Lamy got 10k

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22677796

>>22677755
but she reached 10k already...

>> No.22677804

>>22677386
>superchats
> this year
she's already moved her SC farming stuff to Mengen you fool.
she knows the curse of the first place SC.

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22677807

>>22677755
thanks grownups anon, always can count on ya

>> No.22677810

>>22677755
Holofags would do this and start calling other nijiniggers when they grdugepost

>> No.22677812

>Millie earns enough to live a comfortable life out of 2k viewers with over $70k/year. The annual salary of professional careers
>Kiara already achieves financial freedom and is working towards investing in other areas
>Ina's parents got Ina an accountant early on and probably has the most amount of money among myth
If you're at HoloMyth's level of success, how would you spend your money? Original songs, equipment, games etc? I wonder if Cover could lend their IP for the talents projects such as games, mangas or animations. For example, Ina draws her own fanfic manga with the others for content.

>> No.22677821

>>22677561
Did Haachama do anything noteworthy yesterday?

>> No.22677822

>>22677695
Scale and the amount of time/effort required to manage it all presumably. If she plans on going hard on property, she could have 10 houses/apartments by the time she's done with her hololive career and never have to work another day in her life.

>> No.22677827

>>22677706
People shit on chloeschizo but chloe has unironically fell off the hardest among holox

>> No.22677836

>>22677827
you can't say that shit when the samurai exists lmao

>> No.22677837

>>22677695
Secondary income. If you're good at vetting your renters it's more stable then f.ex. airbnb. Airbnb has higher risk to get retards that wrecks the place and your place getting fucked by reviews.

Land would be a longer term investment and a more speculative since the return would only happen when selling at a higher price or building something on the land and then selling/renting it.

>> No.22677844

>>22677812
Marine dumped $500k on her new music video that's coming out soon, so you can count on some holos to just reinvest it into their content

>> No.22677862

>>22677821
Not noteworthy enough but kept the arc ongoing

>> No.22677870

>>22677827
Even gozaru is forgotten from your mind huh, kinda sad actually.

>> No.22677887

>>22677836
I know. She fell of the hardest next to Chloe.

>> No.22677888

>>22677710
> phony set to overtake Next Color Planet in another month
dayum

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22677892

>>22677827

>> No.22677899

>>22677695
>Won't buying land near a tourist spot and build a house for Airbnb visits is better in the long term?
kek, welcome back from 2019 anon, let me catch you up on recent events
> A FUCKHUGE PANDEMIC SCARE WIPED OUT ANYONE BUILDING FOR AIRBNB IN EUROPE

Anyone doing it right now after what's going on in Shanghai is an even bigger idiot than people doing it in 2020

>> No.22677907

Koyori is unironically the best HoloX member right?

>> No.22677912

>>22677836
>>22677892
>>22677887
>>22677870
what the fuck happened to her

>> No.22677914

>>22677821
She's getting married to Miko cuz her explosion trap didn't work.

>> No.22677917

>>22677812
Im pretty sure Gura and Mori make more than her

>> No.22677918

>>22677812
>If you're at HoloMyth's level of success, how would you spend your money?
high quality sexbot of my oshi

>> No.22677930
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>>22677892
How do we save this cute nin nin bros?

>> No.22677932

>>22677912
Internet hort

>> No.22677931

>>22677821
I don't know if she did something, but she's stated her new goal is to bring Pekora to azkaban with her instead of just getting caught herself. I.e. whenever the trial happens she will probably insist that the rabbit be sentenced as well. Basically turning states witness.

>> No.22677936

>>22677907
nah it's lui since she makes me hard

>> No.22677940

>>22677912
> wasn't enjoying her previous streams
> finally got a game she can enjoy : FFXIV and has started the spam
she'll go the way of Shizurin at this rate, collab is inevitable

>> No.22677944

>>22677907
In my heart yes because I love her, but even I can see the areas where she hard filters people, so I'll never expect her to be the next Peko or some shit like that

>> No.22677957

>>22677930
Anon, they have to save themselves. It's the only way.

>> No.22677963

>>22677944
how does she hard filter people? what is she doing wrong?

>> No.22677968

Startend should have had Pekora instead of Suisei

>> No.22677979

>>22677821
She continued her relationship with miko to make sure she books up miko to this, even miko played micra after her and peaked at 27k I think?
It was pretty kino, but she didn't build anything no

>> No.22677980

>>22677480
Whatever payout that's been stated by people is already AFTER youtube takes their cut for ads.

>> No.22677983

>>22677940
death by FFXIV, now that is a tragic way to go.

>> No.22677985

>>22677930
Strap her in a chair and force her to stream Minecraft on the Holoserver

>> No.22677986

>>22677892
>be laplus
>exclusively shit out 1 hour streams
>fewer vods than Koyo, Lui and Iroha
>still the most vod views
She's limiting herself.

>> No.22677997

>>22677254
Anons here may think this is just an exaggeration, but I just checked and Kiara estimated tax brackets is at 55% marginal plus a VAT of 20%
No wonder she doesn't bait SC as much anymore if every dollar she additionally gets donated with, she gets only 13 cents in effective value.

>> No.22678001

>>22677963
her voice is one of those things where you love it or hate it, I personally can't get enough but I always see a lot of people complain about it
Also the screaming or being bad at games, those are pluses for me

>> No.22678005
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22678005

>>22677918
>high quality sexbot of my oshi
Wut? What about paying some unfortunate whore for plastic surgery to match every single aspect of your oshi and then making a weekly visit when you have absolute no sexual contact, and just tell her to play vidya while you watch and "superchat" her by throwing some 10 dollar bills at her with verbal comments like
>not feeling well today, here is my superchat, keep playing this game well
just to see her look of discomfort and disgust.

I assume everyone here can relate right? Right?

>> No.22678014

Kou at 14k which looks like his third highest ever CCV after his 3D and a 1pov collab with Kuzuha and Ririmu

>> No.22678021

>>22677997
This is....probably part of the reason EU can't SC nearly as much, even if they do watch.
"WITH WHAT DISPOSABLE INCOME?"

>> No.22678044

>>22677930
Dye her hair blue

>> No.22678048

>>22677862
>>22677914
>>22677931
>>22677979
Thanks, anons. Nice to see the arc is continuing apace.

>> No.22678052

>>22677478
I'd believe it.
Consider let's say Gura would have a consistent base of 20k members and let's further say that they pay on average 5$.
In a year that'd be 1.2m gross.
From that you have to subtract VAT/Sales tax which differs per country. Let's put it at 10% for this example (rather low for VAT but high for sales) 1.08m go to YouTube.
YouTube takes their 30% cut.
756k go to cover
Cover takes their ~50% cut.
378k go to Gura before taxes.
And that's in all likelihood her biggest revenue stream.

>> No.22678063

>>22677986
>vod views
Nearly a quarter of those are just from Kamippoi

>> No.22678072

>>22677986
I mean, she does have a 12M cover that went viral but yes, we've talked about it to death in this thread already but she's genuinely sabotaging herself at this point

>> No.22678080

>>22677968
Unironically this, at least peko will have the balls to say no to onion retarded valk ult calls

>> No.22678103

>>22677997
Does Europeans really?

>> No.22678105

>>22678005
no whore could replicate the cheerfull and youthfull energy of my oshi so its not worth to try.
that aside if your oshi is RBC then a sexbot would be the most authentic expirience you could get

>> No.22678116

>>22678072
>>22677986
what should she be doing differently?
longer streams or something?

>> No.22678125

>>22677963
Anon, even Chloe managed to filter most of her potential viewers from her explosive debut week and she's supposed to be the most popular one in her gen.

>> No.22678132

>>22677812
>Millie earns enough to live a comfortable life out of 2k viewers with over $70k/year.
Anon that monetisation number included superchats and was before Niji's cut

>> No.22678138

>>22678005
Not gonna lie, that does sound pretty hot. Would be really awkward if your oshi is Ollie, though

>> No.22678151

>>22678105
>no whore could replicate the cheerfull and youthfull energy of my oshi so its not worth to try.
COME ON! You are not imagining this right!

Imagine being able to crumble a 50 dollars bill into a ball, toss at her while saying
>you don't look genki today, here is a superchat to pick you up

>> No.22678156

>>22678116
A consistent schedule would be nice, preferably not in the middle of slots

>> No.22678157

>>22678080
yeah I feel like Peko would have been shrewd enough to say no to the countless suicide ults

>> No.22678170

>>22678116
having a consistent schedule and not starting guerrillas in the middle of a slot with 2 of her genmates on for the third time in a week or not getting too hungover to stream would be a good start

>> No.22678177
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Cute.

>> No.22678193

>>22678116
Announce her streams ahead of time and don't do it in the middle of a set. People are usually already invested in another stream halfway into the hour so she's missing out on a lot of tourists

>> No.22678200

>>22678151
Kek. You're making me sad anon.

>> No.22678201

>>22678177
why are they taking over rushia's timeslot? what do they mean by this?

>> No.22678207

>>22678170 (me)
also, her game choices are horrible, choosing fucking valorant and shadowverse as her main games was dumb as hell, or her playing MC on singleplayer instead of the server

>> No.22678224

>>22678177
Pink cat's subs are considerably less dead than Stinky. Good on her.

>> No.22678228

>>22677997
55 %, got to pump those rookie numbers.

>> No.22678251

>>22678177
Gen6 schizo on suicide watch

>> No.22678261

>>22677997
VAT is on the end of the donator, so sure she might hit 55% marginal but I doubt much higher given that it's measured in Euros

>> No.22678269

>>22678132
Not the first time that anon has repeated it either.

>> No.22678271

>>22678014
Vsaikyou buff?

>> No.22678282

>>22678271
yes, he was on king's team

>> No.22678293

>>22678224
You're trying way too hard, anon.

>> No.22678296

>>22677968
Nah Peko and Aqua doesn't have much chemistry to form a team. Both are introvert, sticking with their own clique in company. Putting them together would be a disaster.

>> No.22678297

>>22678228
55% is after 1 million in income.

>> No.22678317

In a few months Gura is gonna surpass fubuki total views and probably stay there in the ranking forever since Mori and Suzie are invincible music channels view wise, and Pekora/Marine have a 100mil head start and either outpace of rematch her monthly view gain

>> No.22678326

>>22678297
So what you're telling is that Austria is a tax haven? Damn, got to move right away!

>> No.22678352

>Someone gonna start EN vs JP again.

Oh, it's almost JP prime time. Well I'm outta here for now

>> No.22678357

>>22678317
Mori/Suz/Gura have the chance of possibly being lucky enough to have a 100m cover/song. Even if it's a minuscule chance.

>> No.22678365

>>22678326
>So what you're telling is that Austria is a tax haven?
kek, tax there is "progressive" meaning it is under 55% for the first million but definitely not zero

>> No.22678393

>>22678357
Maybe if they find a way to pretend it's actually the original anime opening like a certain someone

>> No.22678402

>>22678365
heh, I'm just salty I live in a country topping or being in top 3 when comparing tax-rates.

>> No.22678415

>Both chloe and koyori have 11k
So they really just gets nerfed by other high tier JPs streaming. Meanwhile ENs gets a pass for sub 10k on solo timeslots

>> No.22678430

>>22673857
>Gacha
Idk about this one desu

>> No.22678434

>>22678415
Stfu with your loops schizo

>> No.22678438

>>22678415
of course they are, they're the new guys, people will always return to their comfort streamers at the end of the day, just time will tell how much they gain over their senpai

>> No.22678451

>>22678402
kek, I live in some european country as well. Given my tax rates it is like wages from January to mid April go straight to the government and I only start actually getting any after that point.

>> No.22678462

>>22678415
Balance.
EN audience are more widespread but they benefit from the lack of streams in general, usually leading to them owning entire timeslots if they aren't stupid
JP audience are focused in one time zone but there's just a metric ton of competition from other JP Holos.

>> No.22678469

>>22674147
I will grudge post the shit out of you if that's true anon

>> No.22678498

>Pekocraft
>Fuwa Birthday
>Suisei TetrisZatsu
>Haachama 'off-collab'
>Matsuri ApexGacha
>KZH post tourney stream
Current podium contenders

>> No.22678501

>>22678438
>>22678462
Not sure if samefagging or just retards responding to the same schizo >>22678415

>> No.22678542

>>22678501
i mean, i knew he was a schizo because he said "gets a pass", i just like explaining things for other anons that might be passing by
however, i'm just the first guy, i don't necessarily agree with the second guy completely, primetimes do exist for major en speaking places

>> No.22678548

>>22678498
There's also a mori chadcast

>> No.22678557

>>22678498
isn't matsuri's apex an attempt to make a custom, not gacha?

>> No.22678571

>>22678498
>no startend after party
Sad

>> No.22678583

>>22678548
it won't make the top 3 though

>> No.22678581

>>22678571
there is one, you're just not invited

>> No.22678584

>>22678571
>party
anon...

>> No.22678595

>>22678548
>HoloEN
Yeah no chance, link me a NijiEN stream I missed and I'll redo my post

>>22678557
Maybe after she got what she wanted. But the title and the thumbnail literally said gacha so I doubt it isn't.

>> No.22678606

>>22678571
They went for dinner together I think and had correction sex

>> No.22678607

>>22678542
It's true though. Cull or not they should at least get 10k on their solo timeslots. Niggers here always downplays Pekora's big numbers by saying there is weak competition but copes a lot when Gura can't get 20k on a buff game on her solo timeslot

>> No.22678614

>>22678548
first stream did 13k, unless something drastically has change I don't see it making more.

All the streams anon listed has the potential of a 20k-30k+, assuming good guests for Haachama and that Mastsuri's stream is a gacha stream.

>> No.22678617

I miss the good ol times when Chloe used to get gold for 4 consecutive days and mogging the rest of the competition with her superchats...

>> No.22678629

>>22678498
Hal is doing something at 20:00
Hal gold ?

>> No.22678636

>>22678595
she might have changed her mind if there were little to no interest in making teams for a custom.

>> No.22678641

>>22678617
>I miss numberrot days where 30k can't get you in the top 10
Who doesn't

>> No.22678661

>>22678617
you mean debut month? anon, it's always like this, you'll get a chance to do this again when a new gen debuts and someone gets the same numbers only to get called a failure a few months later, and then you can do it again
because you're trapped here
forever

>> No.22678670

>>22674147
If it's Valorant it'll be La+ involved somehow most likely.

>> No.22678679

>>22678629
Hal Gold!!!

>> No.22678680

>>22678617
wait for gen 7

>> No.22678702

>>22678680
Need more game perms

>> No.22678718
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I don't know what Youtube mean by this but.... yeah...

>> No.22678733

>>22678718
They mean you're on a list.

>> No.22678737
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22678737

koyo put up a valiant fight keeping up for so long but she couldn't keep it up

>>22678718
holy whiplash

>> No.22678755

>>22678718
>Hitler is in black and white
>Chloe is in black and white
THEY ARE

>> No.22678760

>>22678607
Gura gets a million times more shit than the entire combined JP branch for low numbers, she gets shit even for high numbers because she used to have higher. Where the hell does the narrative that EN is coddled and not shit posted to death over reclining come from? Confirmation bias?

>> No.22678764

Why are people hyping up haachama and Matsuri again? Are we back in March 2021? What happened?

>> No.22678771

>>22678617
Shame she's not a numberfag. Wouldn't have reclined as much otherwise.

>> No.22678783

>>22678718
Hitler, anime girls and dog grooming. What's a chuuba for that feel?

>> No.22678810

>>22678680
Yeah can't wait for them to debut to 180-200k ccv only to average sub 10k viewers haha....

>> No.22678812
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>>22678783
Fubuki

>> No.22678845

>>22678783
Honestly any of the Gen 1 girls

>> No.22678876

>>22678680
>200k debut ccv
>99% decrease in ccv after a month
LETS GOOOOOOO

>> No.22678894

>>22678876
if the box keeps growing, this is unironically going to happen

>> No.22678901

>>22678812
Okay, but where's Hitler in that?

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>>22678783
>Hitler, anime girls and dog grooming
K-Korone?

>> No.22678983

>>22678903
spot on!

>> No.22678992

>>22678760
Gura gets maybe two shitposters posting on cooldown while the rest of the entire thread start throwing out essays of cope to defend her. Maybe the confirmation bias is on the other side.

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22679009

* ongoing streams right now *
Very skinny slot, considering the 8PM slot is right across the corner

>> No.22679010

>>22678992
You are literally shitposting Gura's numbers right now

>> No.22679023

>>22679009
I miss Ruchan...
fuck mike tho

>> No.22679027

>>22679010
Yeah, and I'm just one guy, the other fella isn't on his shift right now.

>> No.22679036

6.5k in suisei's waiting room right now
Yeah as expected, maybe a 25k stream

>> No.22679062

>>22676994
shhh you can't say that, she's clearly lying. All holos are multimillionares and make +1M every time they get new merch. Even roboco and aki

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>>22678177
this is cuter

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Both started strong as fuck, both will easily beat 25k

>> No.22679206

>>22679165
Ohhhh peko is streaming with suisei?
Peko won't break 30k unless she somehow brings someone in like she did haachama last time

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22679207

>>22679165
Strong funnel forming here too. I wonder if anyone will take over Rushia's slot for good

>> No.22679219
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>>22679155
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>> No.22679228

wonder what it means if either koyo or chloe lose the most either quantity wise or percentage wise from suzy and peko starting, sad i'm a dumbass

>> No.22679259

>>22679207
It seems unlikely in the short term. No one wants to get slapped with the label of 'stealing' Rushia's slot on their own. Perhaps a few months down the line, when the schizos and dramafags have moved on, someone will park their ass in the slot for stability's sake.

>> No.22679273
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22679273

I miss the good ol days when Korone was till relevant...

>> No.22679281

Emperor 10k get

>> No.22679289

>>22679259
I think haachama could if she wanted but she probably can't since for some reason she's usually not home before 8 pm

>> No.22679320

Suisei suicidal on stream

>> No.22679321

>>22679273
>How to disclose you are a filthy EOP without saying it out loud

>> No.22679326

>>22679273
im sad about korosan, the inconsistent streaming since her break has been slowly chipping away at a floor that was incredibly solid for years, she can still pull off the 13k for streaming most things, but the super debuffs put her at 8k now

>> No.22679404
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>> No.22679429
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>>22679326
>chipping away at a floor that was incredibly solid for years
I have zero idea of what you are calling her "floor".

Here is a random selection from her summer 2021, she always mixed buff and debuff JOP heavy EOP filtering content

>> No.22679430

>>22679404
aaahhh blue women saikou

>> No.22679435

>>22679320
based, I hope she has the courage.

>> No.22679499

30k as she wins a game

>> No.22679521

>>22679499
I thought I saw 30k yeah
juicy kansou zatsu as well, suichan does a good stream

>> No.22679586

>>22679521
anons, just bait her with some comments of. "It was all on you btw, if only you had played better you could have won.".

That will make her break down, increasing the numbers!

>> No.22679616

>>22676852
as an EOP dead chloe sub im sure more people share this feeling
early on she had the deep voice with mask, cutesy voice without mask gimmick and that was phenomenal and that definitely helped her, showed her amazing vocal control and she couldve gone hard in this, now thats entirely out the window and shes just overly cute "haha im so quirky relatable neet" and her voice is way too forced and cutesy to listen to as background noise to me (like kiara, but at least i can understand her).
Even worse her officially covered song/orisong are also in this cutesy style while the cool is just better imo.
Havent clicked on anything shes done in months, might as well stop being a dead sub desu

>> No.22679621

>>22679586
she's way too grounded for anything like that
suichan is a hard-nosed realist

>> No.22679626

Is there any indonesian Nijinig left? (Other than fujos)
>>22674309
>>22674309
NijiID is excluded from a karaoke deal

>> No.22679628

>>22679586
You're underestimating Suisei and her ability to make a correct self assessment.
Aqua would break down, Towa would say "fuck you", Suisei would laugh it off and say something "tell me something I don't know, I'll use that experience to improve and overcome"

>> No.22679642
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22679642

Unfortunately yes, Bae.

>> No.22679643

Niji gold
>Niji gold
Niji gold
>Niji gold
Niji gold
>Niji gold

>> No.22679688

>>22679206
you were saying?

>> No.22679700

Is suisei the biggest holo ccv-wise without a dedicated live translator?

>> No.22679701

>>22679626
>lauren in the picture
PHEW, not erased!

>> No.22679712

>>22679700
marine

>> No.22679742

>>22679701
>not erased
yet

>> No.22679756

>>22679712
weird, i've alway seen someone translating in marine zatsus though

>> No.22679764

>>22679616
So she has Risu problem when her alternative voice is better than her usual voice?

>> No.22679766

>>22679642
Hope she doesn't get hit hard by the overwatch overlap, though people are probably not going to tune into that as much as the last one

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>>22679430
>aaahhh blue women saikou
??

>> No.22679782

Is Hololive preparing for some big event or something? What's with the continued comparatively small amount of streams from HoloJP?

>> No.22679783

>>22679766
overwatch? when? who?

>> No.22679789

>>22679771
it only works in hololive

>> No.22679808

>>22679688
Ngl I didn't expect both of them to hit 30k, that's wonderful... What is pekora doing in micra? Doing something arc related or doing her own thing?

>> No.22679818

>>22679782
Probably bloom 2 so they are making a bunch of originals like last time

>> No.22679819

>>22679783
Ame Gura Irys Mumei Mori. Unkown 6th. Memes said Towa, realistically it's Fauna or Ina

>> No.22679830

>>22679782
Coof

>> No.22679834

>>22679819
>mori
sigh.....

>> No.22679841

>>22679782
hololive summer

i want to believe

>> No.22679845

>>22679808
She did matsuris latest quiz build, that's what pushed her up.
And then it's just the subaru ark, checking out what subaru built.

>> No.22679854

>>22679834
Don't worry, it'll have more adam sandler jokes!

>> No.22679864

I know the new hour had rolled over before, but jesus christ you have to feel bad for HoloX. Their streams were just waiting rooms for other streamers. How many did they lose in total? Chloe went from 13k to 9.5k and Koyori went from 12k to 9k
6k lost between streams that went elsewhere. Feels bad

>> No.22679867

>>22679771
kek

>> No.22679894

>>22679766
OW collab is 2hrs earlier, so I guess she will be fine. If the guest is Towa than the collab will likely end around 2 hours, unless the last guests is Fauna or Ina than it might stretch to another 3 hour collab.

>> No.22679897

>>22679845
Bugs Bunny Daffy Duck rivalry is always great

>> No.22679902

We eating good tonight nijisis. Gold and EN gold. 5 consecutive EN gold too.

>> No.22679921

Suityan gold calling it now

>> No.22679947

The spics are waking up

>> No.22679949

>>22679819
>Mori
I think some of her music, but the cringe....sigh, another collab RUINED.

>> No.22679950

>>22679771
>Only in Hololive
Nijisanji is black hair boys

>> No.22679971

>>22679902
>5 consecutive EN gold too.
Did I mis somethi-
>milestone stream from vox
Oh for fuck's sake

>> No.22679980
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>>22679819
>Mori

>> No.22679982

>>22679819
I mean lets be real though, if it’s Towa then obviously Mori would be there because Towa loves her and Mori knows JP to get things across to her

>> No.22680005
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Emperor noooo

>> No.22680014

>>22679982
>Mori knows JP
Ok the bait is getting retarded now

>> No.22680022

>>22679834
>>22679949
>>22679980
>Samefag
Are you lost? global is in the corner, Mori bring numbers (not exactly high but not as bad as other holos) what's the problem?

>> No.22680037

>>22679982
>Towa loves her
When was the last time Towa mentioned Mori on stream

>> No.22680041

Mori is numbers poison for multipov collabs, did you see how her POV instantly lost to Ina when Ina came online in the race.

>> No.22680057

>>22679950
*Grayscale hair

>> No.22680060

>>22680022
i'm sorry deadbeat but i'm not.

>> No.22680064

>>22680041
Let the dedbit believe mori still bring stream number

>> No.22680070

>>22679982
Irys is there too retardo and Towa would only be there because of Gura.

>> No.22680072

>>22680022
Fucking deadbeat. For a fps collab Mori would unironically bring the number down

>> No.22680081

>>22680022
isn't Mori super declined rn, her latest english class got horrendous number

>> No.22680085

>>22680005
This would've been another gold if Startend did not choke and is present

>> No.22680097

>>22680022
kill yourself cuckbeat, no one likes your whori

>> No.22680104

>Mori anti samefagging shitting up the thread
Please leave, degenerates.

>> No.22680112

>>22680022
Believe it or not, I can both acknowledge Mori's ability to make numbers with music, but despise what she brings to collabs (A bucketful of cringe that isn't nearly as funny as she thinks it is).

>> No.22680127

>deadbeat damage control in /#/ of all places
fuck off

>> No.22680145

>>22680060
>>22680072
>>22680081
>>22680081
>>22680097
Are you lost or something? this is not global I'm just saying that her numbers are still consistent looking at the graphs, go shit the other thread you disgusting nigger

>> No.22680146

How many SC did Fuwa get in his previous BD?
Can he beat Vox?

>> No.22680153
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22680153

Mori is doing fine you idiots

>> No.22680155

>>22680097
It's not even about whether you like her or not, her antic will bring the mood of the whole collab down and lower the number.
>>22680104
Fucking retard deadbeat, i don't even hate her

>> No.22680159

>shrek
>adam sandler
>jojo
SO FUNNY

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