/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>230874
i think its alot of purist fags and nynnners haters i for one dont care about vshojo but i watch holo en but i wouldnt make a anti post

>>230874
stop posting this thread

>>230922
based

HoloEn at least tries to maintain a sense of class

/vt/ has quickly become a “my oshi could beat yours!” battleground it seems. Not surprising that the bad portion of “fans” flock in here though.

>>230969
example of puristfag who hate anything that isnt a psudo idol company that is based in japan

>>230980
i mean it isnt if you stick to the real generals then its not that bad but if you go to singular threads that are just fags who shout about how good or bad they are

They're different things for different audiences, so clearly everyone must waste time on comparing them directly

>>230874
>Twitch culture
Oh gee take a wild guess on this one

>>230874
I like when Nyanners watched Cold Steel that was funny as fuck

>>230874
Essentially it just comes down to: Japanese company good, western company bad

>>230874
A lot of people don't like constant dirty jokes, toilet humor, overtly slutty designs, and a twitch culture fanbase. It's not hard to imagine why they're unpopular here.

>>231042
EN is 100% twitch culture

vshojo is a bad memes cringe factory

>>231085
this, for me anyways

>>231086
I don't see people spamming pepes and omegaluls in their chat

>>231086
ok hlg taka your meds that or your a nijjinigger

west = bad east = good

I don't want anything to do with anglo twitch thot culture and the more twitch thot the less I like it.
I also didn't like it when the /v/GA faggots were pushing nyanners back on /v/ back in the day.

Not that I usually enter these threads, I wouldn't give a shit if you keep your shit away from the jps. Thankfully based managers are actually doing their job with that for once by rejecting collabs with thot-tubers and /trash/ rejects.

>>230980
It's better than /jp/ has been so far. I honestly hope the jannies won't start enforcing a chuuba ban on /jp/, otherwise all the shizos, elitists and people who bash chuubas non-stop will come her and shit the place up.

My guess:
> non-Japanese = inauthentic = bad
> non-Japanese = not exotic enough
> westerners = "western whores"
> Nyanners
> Maybe insecure Holo fans afraid of competition

I really don't like Nyanners and that sort of taints the whole thing for me. I realize that's basically throwing the baby out with the bathwater, especially since Mouse and Melody are actually pretty cool, but I can't help it.

>>230874
Lots of 13yo sexual jokes, most of them have horrible designs like silver, froot, zentreya and the new whore i don't remember her name. Nyanners is a hypocrite who claims to be against pedos yet her whole vtuber persona is pedo bait, ironmouse is ok, actually has talent but pretends to be crippled or some shit, froot scammed people before and is a slut irl, silvervale is just generic as fuck, her design is one of the most disgusting ever and an example of what normies think all anime is, crap personality and shits on her faggot fans. Melody seems to be ok too just like mousey so nothing against her, zentreya is a dude and that's ok if only he would admit already instead of pretending for god knows why, other than that one of the most boring faggots on earth and last but not least the recent one who is just a shitshow and already known as a youtuber, ugly as fuck by the way makes sense why she would go vtuber

>>230969
Holo has 0 class lmfao. Coco uses a butt plug as a cursor.

Their entire thing is “omg these girls are supposed to be idols but they’re soOoOooo wacky”

>>231136
>>231135
vshojo is twitch culture from 2 years ago
holoEn is twitch culture now

because half of them are not even funny and their humor is based around "chat starts something funny and i ride a wave"

>>231302
Ironmouse unironically has common variable immunodeficiency. It's not a LARP.
That said, I don't really have an opinion on most of them.
>>230922
fpbp

>>231234
This board just has mods, rules, and less people pissed about /jp/ getting flooded.

>>230874
Vshojo is comprised of people with a lot of skeletons in their closet and have been outed as shitty people in almost all cases. On top of this none of them feel genuine and are the most transparent in their taking advantage of lonely men.

Even if you don't care about this, they're just crass and low brow at all times. They're just twitch sluts.

>>231403
True, but it's better than being made up of scammers, cheaters, whores and creeps.

>>231543
>none of them feel genuine
t. never watched a Melody stream. I fully believe that girl is just as retarded IRL as she is live.

>>231302
Froot is probably the worst of them. All the others are pretty transparent in what they've done, but she outright scams people and treats the men in her life like shit.

>>230874
lol HoloEN isn't welcome in most of the holo threads.
People are just tired of talking about it because they've had ages to segregate into their own threads and jannies will quickly ban you for dragging out some of the roomate stuff that makes people dislike ENs.

>>231622
It's a good act, I'll give her that.

Low quality for the most part. Vshojo streamers are just not as good as compared to what HoloEN and even Ninjisanji has to offer. On one hand it’s a lack of experience, but on the other it’s because it just comes off as kind of uncomfortable. You aren’t watching entertainers or a character, it feels like your watching the undertale furries who sit under the stair well in high school or a generic e-girl. Even when this isn’t the case, they tend to have very poor conversational skills and it just isn’t very good to listen to. Even worse is all the baggage that vshojo has. It was made by the CEO of Twitch and has the aesthetic of a bunch of Tumblr OC’s circle jerking on Twitter. That rubs me and others the wrong way.

Given time, vshojo could get better. But until it actually tries to make decent content, I don’t see it going anywhere except becoming the next GDQ or some shit.

Shit designs, shit personalities for the most part, shit roommates, shit fanbase

>>230874
They are basically your average tits out Twitch streamers that are riding the vtuber wave.

>>231403
As others have said, the big difference between Vshoujo and Hololive in general, not even just HoloEN, is the amount of skeletons in the closets of the talent. That's why the meme is that Cover is incompetent at everything but has extreme luck when it comes to hiring talent

>>231756
This. They have potential that should show in the next year, but for fucks sake, stop hiring e-girls with horrible morals.

>>231780
your mom probably has inverted nipples

fixes:
Nyanners - a bit thinking before acting like a fucking 12yo old
Zen - almost perfect, just get the fucking voice changer and start speaking ffs noone gives a crap, rip old 3D model, most of the comedy was based on that
Melody - just give her more time shes getting better every week
Silver - lost cause
Froot - lost cause
Ironmosue - perfect

>>230874
For the most part, it just reeks of being western garbage, especially when people find out about the political background of certain streamers. Meanwhile HoloEN tries to stay true with how unfiltered Japanese/Anime culture is like, and zero politics.

>>231934
>Froot - lost cause
Huh?

>>232115
This is and always will be the problem with Western v-tuber projects.

>>232115
>zero politics
A good part of why people hate ENs is roomie stuff related to that.

>>230874
It's about gaining trust. What has these vtubers done to gain your trust? Holos just give a lot of "true weeb" vibes, while westerners feel like they're trying to pander to the lowest common denominator like normies and SJWs.

>>231934
>Ironmosue
> Finds definition for 'mosue' in Urban Dictionary
Wow

>>231170
What is bad east, and why do all these things equal each other?

>>232153
Scammer and a cheater. A vtuber is supposed to be likeable, it's hard to like someone who makes a habit of betraying people and is clearly faking the friendly personality.
Plus her accent sucks. I'm British too, but our voices sound terrible on anime girls.

>>232164
There is nothing political with HoloEN, unlike let's say Zen and Nyanners.
It gets pretty messy the more you dig into them and realise they did nothing to disavow their actions and they're consistent with the sjw moral code.

>>231934
Melody and Mousey are legit yes, the rest are trash

>>230874
Both are shit. You're welcome.

>>232375
>There is nothing political with HoloEN
Not since after they became EN, no.

>>231934
>Iron Mosue
Hey, I've seen that porno before.

>>232425
peared

>>232429
Even before EN, none of what Ina, Gura or Amelia did ever falls to pandering to "political correctness", and they have actively demonstrated this time and time again via twitter posts and the dog whistling of their intentions.

>>232326
Froot's voice is pure sex and I really don't care about her cheating on a guy years ago, I'm not trying to marry her.

>>232495
I notice you left out some ENs.

>>231042
“culture”

>>232654
I don't understand what you meant and I have no idea what you're talking about. You don't need to elaborate a moot point. Anyway, my main point is that they don't give off the "pandering to western garbage" vibes especially when they violate nuances that sjws would disagree upon.

>>230874
East good
West bad

Give it a few more months and vshojo will be more accepted. The girls have the talent.

>>232654
Calli has said nigger multiple times on her roommate's twitter. The only EN roomie to likely be PC is Kiara, but no one cares about her either way.

>>232845
But western trash has always bad. The current state of their cartoon, video game, book, movie, music industry, literally most entertainment medium is absolute garbage and it reflects/affects anything related to it. It's cancer and aids.

>>232182
upvoted.

>>232993
Thanks friendo, very much appreciated

>>232865
Pretty sure DemonDice said nigga and not nigger. And Kiara fell for the bait and that wasn't any of her fault. She never looked back after that. What's relevant are the much more recent things they did.

>>232865
As a wigger rapper, yes. She's also tweeted about her tumblr-tier shipping of gender fluidity and written songs how "gender isn't black and white".
Also called you fags "neckbearded hambones".

>>233086
But she did backtrack on all of that and immediately banned the retards that went "say trans rights" on her SCs. She also ignored many leading SCs that would ever mention anything about that. It's like the reverse of Nyanners, and she don't have retarded mods/filters.

>>231934
I came for Nyanners and Froot but I stayed for Melody. I really like her voice and her sense of humor.

>>233086
>Also called you fags "neckbearded hambones".
now i am erect

>>233175
shes had a much better dirty joke comedy landing. not trying to push it that hard.

>>232429
And Vshojo should copy them and keep politics out of their entertainment.

>>233086
Proof on any of this?

>>233175
Melody is the biggest "how?" I have ever had with streamers/vtubers/whatever, she quite literally acts like a full on slut at Chaturbate yet she´s a total dork when not horny, how?, is my autism really that bad to not believe this is a thing with women?

>>233086
>>233173
Not to mention she called out the shitty TBA predebut vtweeter SJWs who are only in it for clout, and now are assmad towards her because of that. Very well deserved after they harrassed tubers like Kyuotto (for having a loli avatar)

>>233086
Jokes on her, I´m into that shit.

>>232932
It's no different anywhere else, You're just not in the culture of those countries to understand. Japan is just as messed up as anywhere else. Literally the only place you'll find any kind of "purity" is North Korea, Saudi Arabia and the middle east.

>>230874
They literally all look like cheap whores, it's actually impressive that they went for a "prostitute from around the corner" aesthetic for all of them.

>>233304
The west is certainly decaying way faster than Japan. And the creative bankruptcy + pro-censorship stances should be treated worse than a pandemic.

>>233325
>Implying that it was shocking that they got a "prostitute look" for promo art.

>Front runner of the group is the opposite of Seiso and also a camgirl

I would have been more surprised had the look been different anon.

>>233218
The only one that I know of is DemonDice's Villain song. Just look at the jewtube comments and you'll see its a bunch of comments saying trans rights.
No idea about the other shit.

>>233173
>immediately banned the retards that went "say trans rights" on her SCs
based if true

>>233348
Let it run, once those who called for the censorship realize they are next, several of the western countries will go into "fall of soviet union" transition but those who called for censorship will be just as dead as us.

>>233424
>based if true
You can check the /jp/ archives for that. They stopped sending her those kinds of tweets after they realised it's futile and she's not a clout chaser anymore. Whether if it's a decision from the management or by her, it's definitely a good move.

>>233239
You can have sex and also a personality.
They're not mutually exclusive.

>>233214
Which they have.

>>233082
>it's okay when Kiara does it

>>233531
Be real anon, its definitely management. If one holo ends up saying trans rights, the rest of the holos will get hounded by the mentally ill for not sucking their dicks.

>>233239
She's a dork when horny too

>>233531
>>233424
I don't think Mori ever banned them. She just ignored and skipped over those.

>>230874
I strongly prefer hololive but I don't hate Vshojo. It's alright. However, I can understand why there are people that do hate it.

>>230874
I would only watch vshojo if they got a new member with a cute nonslutty design who doesn't make dirty jokes and curse too much.
Say NO to nigger influences and whores!

>>231288
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF AUTISTIC WEEBS.

>>233615
Kiara wasn't the one who instigated it but instead she got baited by some dumbass troll. Meanwhile compare that to someone like Zen or Nyanners.

>>230874
>There is a lot of hate for Vshojo compared to HoloEn.
Sluts

>>233729
Nyanners regretted making a shitty video and got labelled as an SJW because of it. What about Zen though, what's the story there? I didn't think he could get any worse.

>>233707
Froot is supposed to be the innocent one.

>>233615
Is that the same vshojo that zen was part of when he tweeted about the capital riot and how he "can't stay silent anymore"?

>>233962
I feel like she gave that up pretty quick though.

>>233941
>Nyanners regretted making a shitty video
If really think this was the only reason then you're a newfag that should lurk more. Send her something like "You're a cute loli cat girl waifu" and you'll immediately get banned.

>>233615
Who actually cares what Kiara does anymore

Twitch cancer + nyanners betrayal narrative + actually being able to understand the shittier side of the vshojo talents means vshojo gets shat on more than hololive ever will, even if it's hololive EN. It's a question of starting points

>>234023
Who actually cares what Nyanners does anymore

>>233994
Graduate him already.

>>231622
Melody is fine it's mostly people like Nyanners who people have a problem with.

>>230874
Western twitch thots here to ride the vtuber fad and milk lonely nerds. Shit people with shit morals. Low brow.

I tried, but it was Nyanners & friends who were already vtubers having their "debuts" pretending to be nervous and I couldn't.

>>230874
Too chaotic and crass, will still watch them sometimes but it feels like I'm seeing a lot of influence from shitty American 90s cartoons sometimes.

>>231709
nice headcanon fag

>>234188
Never forget, bitch

Being attached to a Japanese agency gives the HoloEN girls cred.
vShojo is the Crunchyroll version filled with drama whores

>>234537
see >>234023
Never forget, right?

>>234017
>Send her something like "You're a cute loli cat girl waifu" and you'll immediately get banned.
The same thing happens if you send that braindead shit to anyone else, anon.

>>234568
HoloEN could've also been filled with twitch whores like Pokimane if it wasn't for them being meticulous with their scouting.

>>234579
Kiara wasn't a 4chan idol and she didn't shit on it to gain sjw brownie points. And the reason why you don't forget this shit is because if you do you send a message to every two bit wannabe Internet celebrity out there that the can pander to 4chan for easy clout and then shit on them once you become big enough. You want to be a cuck go ahead, but don't expect me to play along.

>>234668
No. That only ever happens in her chat, as she banned the word Traps as well for whatever sjw reason. You can send "cute fox loli waifu" or "cute sharkie loli" to Gura and the others without any problems.

>>234684
glad ame wasn't a twitch whore

>>234668
Lol no.

>>234706
She shit on this place because it pissed on her sister's grave and stalked her irl. If that's not a reason to burn bridges and abandon this hellhole, what would be?

>>234737
Exactly, Ame is an actual gamer and not like one of those political/clout chasing garbage.

>>234706
>pander to 4chan for easy clout
kek'd

>>234759
Good job, you're making shit up and changing the order of events to support a narrative that isn't actually true. No one ever pissed on her sister's grave, this was a rumour started on /v/ back in 2012 that never had any evidence posted for it at any point. She started getting harassed by the group from ED after the /v/GAs and that was when she was doxed and still used 4chan despite that anyway. And she didn't delete pomf and make that post until years after that happened.

If you have to lie and make shit up to defend a person's actions then maybe that person's actions aren't really worth defending.

>>234797
Go take a look at /aud/ or even the koopa thread.

>>234808
Most nyannercucks are liars, just like her. They even created that fake confession on pastebin.

>>234834
Cool clout you got there

>>234808
>She started getting harassed by the group from ED after the /v/GAs and that was when she was doxed and still used 4chan despite that anyway. And she didn't delete pomf and make that post until years after that happened.
Wait, hold on, this is from an anti-nyanners post? The fuck?!

>>234906
For an indie barely two months old that's pretty good. Go take a look at tsunderia's numbers for comparison.

>>234732
>Traps as well for whatever sjw reason
Trap is a slur according to those retards. Can you imagine some dipshits from outside your fetishit community telling you your innocent little play word is a slur. Fucking imagine it right now.

>>234870
>They even created that fake confession on pastebin.
The post date says Nov 28th 2020, and the first instance of it being posted was Jan 31st, 2021. Either some anon who knows exactly how to sound like her was played the long con and sat on this for a month for no reason, or it came from somewhere else.

>>234997
The "leak" was a lot earlier than that. It's either they're playing the long con, or it was edited from something else.

>>233239
Yes you are severely autistic. Amelia Watson gets slutty with her confirmed boyfriend after each stream

>>230874
To me vshojo is just really bland.
They have good looking avatars and nice rigging but their only humor is lewd humor.

>>234950
Not even most trannies consider it a slur, especially with the context that it's used in and respect the differences between the anime community and the trans community. Only SJWs are the ones trying to be offended for the sake of being offended, always thinking of new ways to make something offensive for brownie points.

>>234737
She would’ve been if she were even remotely attractive

>>235073
so basically nyanners is a dyed in the wool SJW despite trying to attract the loli coomer audience?

>>235064
>They have good looking avatars
I wholeheartedly disagree. They all look uninspiring.

>>235133
She doesn't care about her audience and she's merely cashing in on what made her relevant in the first place. It's purely transactional. Considering those filters, most likely she is. Or at least panders to them.

>>235064
The only one that's good is froot, everyone else has janky ass rigging.

>>235133
>a walking contradiction
Oof. Imagine being a cunnyseur, stepping your foot in the door, and it immediately shutting on your toe.

>>235170
Well you are kinda right. Froots avatar is great.
However, silvervale and ironmouse are pretty garbage.
Nyanners is ok.

>>235183
Okay, do it. Show me a concrete example or her PANDERING to sjws since her VTuber debut. Not banning words from her chat, her actually talking about some political issue or supporting BLM or whatever else. Show it to me, I want to see it.

>>230874
Nyanners

>>232429
>literally all we know about the EN crew politically are that Kiara dislikes trannies, and nazis, Calli's freinds with a few trannies, and Ame voted for Gary Johnson in 2016.
WOW, oh fuck! How will HoloEN ever recover? Shut the fuck up Schizo, your headcanon is bullshit.

>>235243
Banning people and censoring traps/loli is already enough proof why she can't be trusted. No other vtuber does that apart from the ones who want to pander to SJWs like her. She has full control of that and is well aware of what she's doing.

>>235372
Banning people? So you're trying to tell me that every time her mods ban someone, that action gets broadcasted directly to globoSJW, that there's some sort of Twitter account that sends out a notice like "look, everyone! she's still with us!"... that's what you're telling me, right? That's how she "panders"?

>>235077
Eh, Ame's bounced between looking like some dumpy bitch trying to cosplay as Ramona Flowers, and a 7/10 big titty brunette, and now she doesn't even have to show up on camera, so it's just her live2d model, which is better designed and cuter than any of the VShojo shitters put together.

>>235243
>Show me a concrete example or her PANDERING to sjws
1. She hasn't mentioned traps or loli not even once despite being a loli character herself
2. She immediately censors/blocks/bans people for saying anything related to those
3. She constantly ticks the sjw checklist of being PoC

Now compare that to others like Gura or Kana, where they don't care and sometimes would even share good smexy loli art to show their appreciation.

>>235461
literally every vshojo model other than hime's is 10x better than her shitty detective rip off model

>>235445
Actual cope

>>235445
No dude. She gives off redflags you would only find on AnimeFeminist.

they're bad.

>>235508
Nyanners PANDERS by:
1. Not talking about something
2. Removing that talk from her own chat
3. Somehow not being white despite her IRL skin tone being pic related (color taken from her own photos, can't post the photo for obvious reasons)

Now compare that to other streamers who also have never talked about this topic on stream.
Got it, thanks!

>>235626
>PoC
I mean't PC or Political Correctness

>>235561
>>235572
You gave a phenomenally retarded answer to the question you were asked. Expect a retarded reply. You cannot get recognized by a certain community by silently doing things in your own.

>>235665
Okay, since she "constantly" does it on stream, give me a clip so I can look for myself.

>>230922
oh look a respectable and well thought out opinion

>>235626
>>235673
not them but
actually now they gave their answers, it's your turn to prove that nyanners isn't an sjw whore like she is
they gave pretty definitive evidences that she panders to western garbage and is western garbage herself
this is ofc disregarding about her past, which she still hadn't owned up to

>>231302
Froot scammed what?

>>230874
personally, i just dont like their humor and designs with the exception on Nyanners.
Iron mouse and melody look fine but the others look like they should be on ADs with the phrase "This game will make you cum in 10 seconds guaranteed" and look very shit. Nyanners is like the only one thats a good looking Live 2D and if im correct the only non 3D model of the group.

also i can stand Nyanners dumb jokes because it isnt only just sex jokes but some decent memes and shit. also comparing them to holoEN at least they have other talents besides just playing games then again im not to familiar with the other Shojos. end of the day tho its just peoples taste so watch whatever.

They cater to coomers. Yeah Hololive can get wild but not to the levels of the Vshojo girls.

>>235724
>proof of absence
You've yet to prove your premise. Banning controversial words isn't placing yourself on one side or another of a controversy, it's shutting down that dialogue entirely because you do not care for it. If she was some SJW pandering whore like you keep saying, you'd have many clips at your disposal of her talking about BLM, trans rights, alphabet soup bullshit and the like... except you don't.

>>235703
What clip? What most people here are asking if whether or not she abandoned her old beliefs and went back to being a lolicon again but instead we got the nyanners that bans you for saying traps or loli when only SJWs are the ones who'd ever do that.

>>235929
controversial? like the other anon said and had been said over and over again on these past threads, what is controversial with saying 'ur a cute loli catgirl waifu' when literally every fucking retarded normie says that, and only dumbfucks like sjw shitters ever find traps being controversial and turn it into something political, it all points her to being an sjw whore from the looks of kit

>>235882
>the others look like they should be on ADs with the phrase "This game will make you cum in 10 seconds guaranteed"
Yeah, Zen and especially Silver look like boomercore caricatures of "sexy anime girl." Even seeing them in collabs makes me cringe, and least Melody and Mousey have some personality to their models.

>>235949
see >>235929

>>236022
See >>236009

>>236009
>only dumbfucks like sjw shitters ever find traps being controversial and turn it into something political
And why
would you
EVER
want to deal with these people?

>>236054
that's the whole fuckin point dumb cunt, why is nyanners pandering to these people when she can just tell them to go fuck themselves like any indie or holoEN would

>>236084
Alright, I'm gonna need to see this clip of an holoEN telling SJWs to go fuck themselves that you're referring to

>>236121
i said would not did, fix your reading comprehension you absolute retard

zen is unironically the best but dragon zen is the worst zen

>>236121
Your trolling is only making Vshojo look worse and it's embarrassing. Just stop.

>>236160
Then since there is no such precedent, you've resorted to guessing.

>>235361
WTF I love Kiara and Ame now

>>235539
Cope, Melody is the only decent design out of the lot and she should have stayed indipendent.

>>236121
>>236188
Needless to say, if you have no concept of figure of speech, you should go back to primary school.

Mori already experienced something like that as shown in this thread before and she dealt it like any normal person would and ignored instead of pandering to them >>233661

>>235555
>>235555
>>235555
Please take all nyanners related discussion to the nyanners thread thanks

>>236395
No, that's a thread for talking about the stream.
Whatever trash happened here would be off-topic.

>>230874
Probably been said countless times in this thread already, but because the nyanners inclusion tainted it.
She's a massive hypocrite who had a woke moment, defected to tumblr and took down problematic content whilst calling her former audience pedos. Then she comes back as, you guessed it, a lewd loli character whilst still holding the same moral views on lolicon.
The idea of a woke vtuber is also an unpredictable element because you can never be sure that they aren't going to start letting that shit leak into their stream, and possibly then spread to other vtubers.

>>236252
>she should have stayed indipendent
True, I feel like she doesn't really fit the overall VShojo brand. It's hard to explain exactly, but the group overall gives off a kind of cringe "we're so sexy, tee-hee" mood, while Melody feels a lot more genuine; absolutely retarded and/or drunk all the time, but does know her shit about doujins etc.

>>236188
Let's be real here, censoring something not political and turning it into something political is a political act. Which is what SJWs are good at when they're eyeing for them brownie points. It's absolutely inexcusable what she did there. This isn't to cover her ass, this is her sending a message that she panders to certain individuals who'd agree with the censorship she did. She'd be a lot better off if she never did that in the first place.

>>236481
If that's how she "sends a message" it's a miracle the poor woman can even speak English.

>>233245
Please post tweet, or vid.

>>231543
I don’t think this is exclusive to vshojo...

>>236624
Nigger. Get out of your cave

>>236668
Yeah, but like give me a lead at least. I want to see cali shit on predebut/twitter vtubers.

>>233941
>shitty
That video will forever be her most iconic content.
She got accused of being an SJW because she ran away to tumblr and started posting about feminism and hate speech.

>>236809
>That video will forever be her most iconic content
Feels good honestly. Deep down inside she knows she's an irrelevant, talentless e-whore that people only know for the very thing she hates. 4chinz always wins in the end baby.

>>230874
It's easy to shit on them because of their humor, fanbase, and talents roommates. Their brand is a joke especially after the dumpster fire that was Hime's debut. hlg and hlgg stick to their generals, most people making the random ass Holo threads are tourists and shitposters, so those going out of their way to shit on VShojo are retards. Personally I don't care for VShojo but I can see that Mel, Ironmouse and Nyanners are a cut above the rest.

>>230874
>>236662
A lot of Western Vtubers in general are somehow predisposed to be this way. They keep parroting/dog whistling what makes people run away from western content in the first place. They just have that mentality that reflects modern day social media garbage that clearly nobody wants apart from their own hugbox. HololiveEN/Tsunderia is kind of an exception to this where the vtubers aren't really that influenced by the social media culture that people hate, and that's what makes them appealing for majority of people.

>>236694
Her latest song anon, now do your reps

>>236884
>>236960
j u s t

>>237065
over 10 years. most of those people are probably in the dirt and the ones that arent are reddit faggots like yourself

Vshojo just comes off as extreme coomerbait to me. I just don't like that kind of thing. I don't like fanservice in anime either for example. Anything that seems to be exploiting my sexuality for bux just rubs me the wrong way (pun unintended). I like Ironmouse because she seems genuine most of the time and she is literally bedridden so her using vtubing and streaming to maintain some sort of normal life is wholesome but sometimes her humour and the rest of vshojos humour just makes me cringe.

I think I hate Melody the most though, her voice just pisses me the fuck off and shes mega cringe. The way she talks pisses me off, its totally a ME thing but I just hate her.

>>237065
Cute loli

>>236160
Wait till you guys learn that every single En is an sjw, just like every other modern female, but puts it away for their tubers ina because they know that not how you get simp $$

>>230874
For me, it feels like Cover as a corporation has much more of a clear sense of values, watching streams from any of Hololive content creator doesn't leave me with this feeling like they're suddenly about to start spouting off Western nonsense like politics
I guess it's this feeling of them having more tact
Oh and most of them don't look like cheap whores

>>237198
Banned.

>>237137
Here's a photo of a million people.
How likely do you believe it is for a majority (more than 50%) of these people to die over the course of 10 years?
Now, instead of just random people, imagine all of these are within the 13-25 age range. What do you think the odds of THAT are?

>>237198
you'll get banned for tweeting or sending that to her chat, she's a hypocrite

>>237226
>every single En is an sjw
I have have gathered enough evidences that my oshi and her wife aren't sjws

>>237226
tubersona ***

>>237259
considering she appealed to tranny schizos on tumblr, probably a pretty good chance.

>>230874
The retards in charge of scouting talent and managing them at this joke of a corporation should have asked themselves why people flee in droves from western entertainment, even if it means watching stuff they can't even understand. Imagine being so repulsive that people would rather watch shit in a language they don't speak than be subjected to you.

>>237417
>why people flee in droves from western entertainment
LOL western entertainment shits on eastern entertainment in every fucking category in every metric, are you retarded?
no one fucking cares about the weeb market

>>237492
Yeah which is why they constantly poorly ape Eastern media

>>237492
>no one fucking cares about the weeb market
The bright minds and the "talent" behind VShojo certainly do.

>>237198
Too old, not a loli.

>>237492
Nigger the only thing here shitting itself is the western entertainment industry, this isn't 10 years ago, we are on a massive decline

>>237947
>we are on a massive decline
No that's HoloEN's viewership

>>238012
That too
Thanks Jewtube

>>230874
HoloEN girls are carefully scouted and know how to perform a fun character while doing all the vidya streaming. They also know not to bring politics into the job and will even ignore superchats demanding they parrot political statements.
Vshojo girls are just attention seeking e-girls who act the same 2D avatar or not, are a lot more transparent with their exploitation of lonely men, and have all been found to shit people in real life. Some are even SJW and hate their audience, which is utterly retarded but I guess they'd fit in with most modern media.

How is this a mystery to you? It's basically a group of professionals vs a group of shitty e-girls.

I strictly only watch Ironmouse.

>>238012
That's partially the algorithm (I wasn't recommended a video for any of them for months for some reason, even after binging them at one point. But one fucking political video suddenly infected my whole feed with tht kind of content, it's stupid)
Also, the initial novelty and curiosity has died down. It's natural for this to happen.

Hime's completely dropped character,

>>236694
Search on youtube. Song sounds 7/10 the first time you hear it, but gets better each time you listen.

They're kinda trash in content imo

>>238237
Can someone explain this? I’ve heard a lot of shit about froot and her ex-husband or something.

>>239391
tl;dr
>froot and husband sold anime /k/ patches
>husband gets deployed to africa or some shit
>froot starts fucking with other dudes and /k/ patch makers
>the dms leak and froot does damage control and says it was people stalking her
>turned out she had a history of doing this

>>239606
Didn't she also scam people who commissioned her too? She's just a shitty person.

>>239673
haven't seen any talk of that in /k/ archives, so it just might be a rrat

I dont like vshojo but mousey is precious and i adore her.

>>231135
Amelia's chat during LA Noire streams were close. Character says a racial slur or hates women? "BASED". Character is a rapist or a pedophile? "Literally me".

Ironmouse seems the coolest

all the other girls seem fake and whack as fuck.

can't blame the hustle though, a lot of lonely men in the world.

>>239606
>>239673
This is the best explanation I've seen of this so far. Bravo.
To add to that, her husband was a tanker and deployed in Afghanistan.
They owned a patch store that may have failed to deliver a few orders when they split up and closed shop.
She only claimed the main dude she fooled around with was a stalker.
Whiteknights assemble.
Said "stalker" leaks the DMs in retaliation.

Zen breaks character and posts about politics.

Froot has too much baggage or drama behind closed doors. Is also pretty boring though most would argue she's "comfy." She also just seems to have hardly any presence when collabing with others.

Silver, instead of ignoring toxic chat like most level headed vtubers, decides to blow up about it. Thus enforcing this stigma that she's just a twitch thot with an avatar.

Nyanners...

Melody is literally the reason they can't collab much outside or get certain sponsors cause "muh camshows."

Hime is just loud and vulgar but in the annoying white girl kinda way, headache inducing almost.
Also she's basically just playing her irl self with an avatar.

They really don't seem to hold themselves to a high standard. And they all seem to have done a piss poor job at hiding their past or even playing the fucking character they are supposed to be.

When Ironmouse inevitably dies Vshojo will die with her.

>>239730
Clearly you didn't do your due diligence, search BS apricot

they perfectly embody everything that i've hated about ironic weeb culture since the early-mid 2010s

>>240872
enlighten me anon, because all I found while searching her up was the yab i had already described

>>240987
Were you looking for stuff about scams?
I can't say I really see any other than talk of how terrible she was at getting coms done on time when it came to the patch shops she was working with.
That and what this screenshot implies about her taking two years to do a commission only to cancel and refund it.
Sadmin is one of the /k/ patch guys I believe.

>>230874
Their voices hurt my ears

>>241296
that's all news to me. pretty shitty of her, nice to know.
I only looked on the archives for the husband shit to see if what /jp/anons were saying were true desu. saw that the rrat was true and stopped digging

>>231756
Nijisanji streamers are in general more talented than HoloEN

>>241365
Nijiniggers go and stay go

>>241365
if they are sooooooooo talented why arnt they bigger then hololive

>>230874
I don't really hate it. I have a soft spot for Melody and Ironmouse (especially Ironmouse, considering her affliction.) The rest I have no feelings for either way.
I just don't watch them.
Nyanners can get fucked for her past sins, though

>>232240
Please share with the rest of the class.

>>236624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M-6lkoi6L4

sluts, putting politics, part of the problem. will inevitably destroys vtuber with some politics and virtue signalling like the whore they are.

>>242550
oh but melody and ironmouse are cool

>>242579
Agreed
Mousey gets bonus points for speaking in spanish sometimes

>>241365
How will Hololive ever compete?
https://youtu.be/MHhOs7e9GAg?t=113

Froot is cute
Silvervale is solid
Melody is solid
Iron mouse is impossible to listen to
Nyanners is only good when drunk
Zen has good moments but it's a dude using text to speech

I'll watch clips of them but I couldn't watch entire streams. Maybe Froots Bob Ross streams I'll check out.

>>230874
I don't like Nyanners, never seen the rest. I'm sure they're probably fine.

>>230874
Hololive will whip their girls into a coma if they so much as mention politics in any form.
Vshojo is one twitter fight away from collapsing into nothingness.

>>241764
Clips got Hololive to be more noticed by western audience and it blew up from there. Most people are coomers who like to only watch girls while Nijisanji focuses on both their male and female vtubers instead of leaving their males dead in the water like Cover.

>>230874
I don't hate them, I hate Twitch

>>241551
It's impossible for him to be a nijinigger, they would rather kill themselves than post here. Just a usual falseflagger baiting and you guys gobbling it up like idiots.

>>236960
One of the only correct answers in this stinking shit of a thread

>>245648
Nah i've seen a few of them around trying to do damage control before realizing the futility of it.