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Someone reminded Gura of doing JP Duolingo streamIs it timeFOR NUMBERS
>Someone reminded Gura of the duolingoIt's back on the menu boys
GURA DUOLINGOOOOO LETS GOOOOO
>>24588209Are Duolingos still a buff for EN?
>>24588209Overtime, not immediately. Still don't understand the appeal of Duolingo stream
what happened to Fauna's stream in vstats?
>>24588274It'll do OK CCV but the reason it's a meme is the recommends, Youtube freaked the fuck out over that Duolingo VOD and people were still getting it recommended over a year later
gura totsu invite @everyone
GURA TOSTU BDNUMBERS
>Gura wants to do Duolingo, WWE streams, playing buff games, wants to invite everybody she can to the birthday totsuwho the fuck is this shark?
Gura doing @everyone for her birthday, big numbers incoming
>>24588209>4 mil subs >Possible 3D karaoke>Birthday>2K wwe>DuolingoIs June going to be Gura month?
Is this, Gura's character development?
* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *>36,605: Toya (Nijisanji)>34,663: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>27,876: Subaru (Hololive)>27,741: Koyori (Hololive)>24,589: Choco (Hololive)>22,950: AZKi (Hololive)>21,107: Lamy (Hololive)>21,055: Gura (Hololive)>19,358: Reid (Neo Porte)>14,615: Towa (Hololive)>12,834: Okayu (Hololive)>11,274: Hal (Neo Porte)>11,226: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)>11,183: Lauren (Nijisanji)>11,084: Korone (Hololive)>11,048: Kanae (Nijisanji)>10,640: Kanata (Hololive)>10,373: Mysta (Nijisanji)>10,245: Iroha (Hololive)
>>24588375Youtube freaked the fuck out because Gura's JP translators mined it for every single moment in clips. Seriously this has 2 million view VOD but probably like 10-15 million views in clips
>>24588394She heard the Luxiem Fujos talking shit so now she is ready to show them what EN numbers can really be.
>hype up her birthday more than the 3D reveal.
>>245883943D LIVE IN JP PROMISED???? She only gets this motived right when one of her dreams is being fulfilled by Cover!
>>24588436What makes you think WWE and Duolingo are june and not next week?
>>24588455>MAY 2022 GOLD1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 20223) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut7) Pekora (Hololive) - 35,238 - Among Us collab8) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 95,165 - FuwaGusa 3D live9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K2210) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 28,244 - APEX11) Kanata (Hololive) - 43,953 - Clubhouse 51 totsu12) Miko (Hololive) - 37,659 - Switch Sports w/Flare13) Miko (Hololive) - 76,609 - WWE 2K2214) Marine (Hololive) - 45,005 - Zatsudan15) Sora (Hololive) - 58,576 - 3D birthday live16) Aqua (Hololive) - 32,428 - Return karaoke17) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,089 - Valkyrie Connect shilling w/Laplus18) Chloe (Hololive) - 58,142 - Birthday totsumachi19) Toya (Nijisanji) - 36,605 - Kenmochi Toya>PER COMPANY14x: Hololive5x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER4x: Miko2x: Kanata, Mio, Pekora1x: Aqua, Chloe, Fuwa, Kaida, Kuzuha, Marine, Nijisanji, Sora, Toya
>Zeta watching Gura's SC readingThis girl fucking loves EN so much doesn't she
>>24588274it's not about the horse race for this one, it's the algo and vod views, the first one was a very fascinating anomaly
>>24588501to add to my post, she will go on a decline right after but the lead up is always super motivated GURA
>>245885172022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY99x: Hololive31x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte2x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER17x: Pekora16x: Aqua11x: Kuzuha9x: Miko7x: Subaru6x: Hal5x: Kanata4x: Marine, Suisei, Toya3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa1x: AI, Aki, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>24588529Yes, because....>>24588456The second one is going to get strip-mined for clips as well (But only if she actually gets it done this time instead of cancelling at the last moment).
>>24588394>>24588501Gura promises are only slightly better than Mori's, come on now anons, lower your expectations.
>>24588518>Millie could have be ZetaZeta wants to be EN so bad, hangs out/collabs with EN members already and watches them more than ID. Millie why did you reject the offer.....
>>24588394She wants her 4 million fast so it lands right on her birthday, I know it's not great for us numberfags but a 4 million together with a birthday is a pretty insane event
>>24586022Only Pekora, Marine, and Miko hit that regularly. Aqua does now but that is due to rarity buff. She was 15-20k before she stopped streaming.
>>24588395Kek. No one from JP is going to answer. JPs have long stopped caring about her after she hard reclined. She only has herself to blame after ghosting everyone when she was popular. Nowadays it's all HoloX
Take Gura's words with a ton of salt because she never follows through. She is the Todd Howard of vtuber, talk big but delivering none
>>24588394co host with migo when it's EN/ID turn for bigger numbers
If she really invite everyone in JP,ID and EN for Totsus how long will her BD steam be
>>24588687No Gura, don't do it!I'd rather it be a few weeks after so it lands on July the 4th and she doesn't end up bundling the two together. That would be delicious too.
>>24588483Anon? The 3d reveal was at holofes. You have to let it go, Home3d isn't a 3d debut.
>>24588666why did anyone ever think Millie would be in Holo? seriously, her actual rl friends are in Nijisanji
>>24588743Look at how long Bae's went for.
>>24588515I'll be happy either way. I'm just expecting her to take it easy next week since Gura usually have a schedule full of games 1 week and go non-schedule the next, taking it easy for that week. I imagine she would want to advertise her more popular upcoming streams but then again Gura is so anti-numbers that I could be wrong.
>>24588743I really hope she'd get a lot of interesting JP callers but I get the impression Gura is still intimidating for JPs to approach, so we'll see.
>>24588729Tell me sweet lies gura
>>24588743Can't be longer than IDs totsu with all the holomem, indie, other agency, leech.
When was the last time an EN chuuba got global gold?
>>24588816She has no public stream for the next 3 days, and might not stream for another extra 2 because those 3 days are for cons.
>>24588816>I imagine she would want to advertiseanon, this is Gura, how could you even imagine that? Does this thread get hyped the instant Gura makes empty promises?
>>24588841Bae birthday was fucking long
>>24588909Every numberfag longs deep down for Gura to fulfill her true potential
>>24588897Calli concert?
Girls that will 100% show upOkayuShionMatsuriAki MarineFubuki
>>24588897Last month mori 3d concert and gura slip 3 times: 2 in April and 1 this month for now
>>24588765>>24588765She mentioned that she wanted to celebrate both together in a members stream like 1-2 week before she took her house hunting break. .
>>24588973I know, but.....if her 4m is far enough from her BDay she'll have no choice!
>>24589048why do you think shes suddenly pulling out buff content
>>24588951she never will, she's so anti numbers that it's literally ingrained in her. Even if she does a buff stream, she won't advertise. If she does eventually do a 3d live, she won't advertise.
>>24588966Fucking kino already but I also want some wildcards. Gimme, uhh, Nene, Pekora, Sora. And Suisei so they can commit to doing a joint orisong.
>>24588903Yeah, just because she not streaming doesn't mean she's not busy so I fully expect next week to be a light week for Gura.
>>24589170Anon, Pekora is dead.
>>24588966Aqua...miko...
>>24588209So did she just forget or something?
>>24588966Polka or i riot
>>24589224Is really hard to predict Aqua showing up for these things, but yeah Miko is also a 100%
>>24589223Oh yeah, I know. Just wishful thinking she'd be better by June 20.
>>24589224>>24589223Anons, her Birthday isn't until next month anyways, that's plenty of time for most of those on break to have rested up and be ready to go.
>>24589224Doubtful for Aqua but Miko showed up for both Bae and IRyS so I see no reason why she wouldn't show up for Gura.
>>24589263she has a long list of stuff she wants to reschedule
Did someone already share this?Apparently lot of nijien girls fan got butthurt about merchhttps://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1527454056750362624?t=7Kfu53i2rjMY8Eh9Ex5Vkw&s=19How long do you think it is untill soldout
>>24588966Fubuki? Will she?
>>24589263got rescheduled due to perms, see la+'s Duolingo that got moved around a similar time, and probably either forgot to jot it down or it got put at the end of the list
>>24589163She's advertise any event that actually mattered to her. Its not like this is her first birthday. She hyped up holofes, bds, her big april 1st stream she organized etcYou're confusing her with the debuff detective, the alpha and omega of self debuffs. Gura is nowhere near that bad.
>>24588966Can't believe you left out EN biggest supporter.
> Gura promises> thread gets riled up and hyped> fails to deliver or if she does deliver, she doesn't advertise and it slipsEVERY FUCKING TIME
>>24589387POLKA LOVE
>>24588966If it was sent to everyone I'd expect Polka and Watame.
>>24589224Miko showing up for Gura would be kino. Also seems to be liked by chumbuds, hell who in EN doesn't like migo?
>>24589335Giorls are there to fill out the roster. Luxiem makes the money.
>>24589335https://twitter.com/Myne__/status/1527470844317925384Kek
>>24589335I was fully expecting this to be 1 or two posts but holy shit yeah, the NijiEn girl fans are actually mads.This pleases me, choke on your fucking chemistry shitposting NijiEn fans /here/. Choke on all that shilling, and welcome to manjisanji
>>24589335>Half Anniversary GoodsAnd they are butthurt because they finger their anus too much?
>>24588966Wouldn't La+ show up?
>>24589387I love unity fox so much I wish she'd stop just observing EN from a distance and interact with them more
>>24589335Money speaking louder than their chemistry rumao.
>>24589395I WANTTOBELIEVE!!!!!!
>>24589335they know which livers makes the money. The girls' fans just have to suck it up.
>>24589312>TimezonesThere's your reason anon
>>24589472This is blatant favoritism, it's not surprising they're upset.This is why Cover generally gives everyone the same amount of merch runs. They could easily just spam Pekora/Aqua merch runs and give Aki just her birthday if they wanted to min-max shit.
>>24589335unsurprised, and I predict those fans do nothing and its just a bunch of flash. They're weak.Ain't no chemistry between livers and management, and they can suck it up or ship out, they're just accessories.
>>24589335>ChemistryAnyblack is going to run them fujos dry at every opportunity they could
>>24589335
>>24589335Butthurt for what?
>>24589550yeah believe it if you want, I'm not going to say "I told you so" when this thread inevitably gets disappointed.
>>24589629>Anyblack.
>>24589676None of the 3 girls, who debuted before the boys, got half anni merch.It's been 3 fucking days since lazulight's anniversary and they're already dropping this and overshadowing it.Obsydia specifically have not gotten shit, no new outfit, nothing, despite debuting like a month after lazulight and lazulight already got theirs
>>24589614Cover only does that to keep them in line. They are walking fine lines to not make everything catty. Most of the supposed feuds and anger is because of perceived favoritism towards someone.
>>24589335lmao actually hilarious
>>24589719But I didn't see any lazulight's fans complain about it on twitter though?
>>24589614>It's not surprising they're upsetLooks like the NijiEN fans are just learning about Manjisanji. In Nijisanji the girls are just props for the boys to play off of. The only branch this isn't true for is NijiID (well, what used to be NijiID).
>>24589793Did you not click that link? Did you not scroll down? I don't understand.
>>24589719Ethyria never got their voice pack sets that Lazulight and Obsydia got.Nina got more merch than the others since she's the highest subbed of that wave.
>>24589335LMAONobody tell them about how high quality Hololive merch is in comparison. I can't wait to get my giant IRyS plushie, Journey CD, and coffee mug. Enjoy your endless acrylic stands Nijiniggers.
>>24589805It's not really a Manjisanji thing, this shit happens on JP too.Only the notable groups or popular talents get all the unique merch while the rest get the cookie cutter merch.
>>24589793Blind chamaIt literally the top of fucking commentWith 200 like
>>24589335Are those actually Niji EN fans or just concern trolls? In my experience most of the female fans just put their heads down and keep their mouths shut about the males taking over.
>>24589894>>24589471their merch looks bad but it's because you're supposed to combine them
>>24589335>acrylic standsWhy the fuck can't Nijisanji put out some decent merch? Do they ever get the nice custom goods Hololive girls get or is it just acrylics and keychains and voicepacks forever? You could probably get much nicer, more interesting NijiEN merch by buying knockoffs on Aliexpress
>>24589929The result of ACCELERATION. Too many low/underperforming talents that no one would shell out for merch.
>>24589335Well from here i hope they learn what kind of company they're supporting
>>24589981Some of them are ACTUAL NijiEN fans based on their twitter history that I clicked through out of boredom.
>>24589933>>24589825All I see is only Luxiem's fans lost their mind and wet themselves.
>>24589335It's not a charity it's a business. People are too used to Hololive's "save everyone" shit. Perform well and you get invested in, don't and well, good luck.
>IRyS getting more views than Fauna switch sports IRyS >>>>>>> Fauna
>>24589471>Lazulight T-shirts>Luxiem hangersWhat does that mean?
>>24589793kek are you blind? there's like 5 comments with 100+ likes
>>24589981Well apparently its a real fanYou can check each account one by oneLike this 1 https://twitter.com/Carateca2?s=20&t=k8sFia1z3WPEpcbEP8zzxg
>>24590001Its the cheapest and easiest to createYuan moneyi purisu understando
>>24589335>Debut goods>Valentine's goods>Shakira goods>Half anniversary goodsAll the same and none the wiser. Merch ranging from acrylic stands, file folder, badges etc when everything couldve been printed easily.
I like the consistency of faunaschizo. It kinda reminds me of /hlg/'s schizos
>>24589805That's because everyone in ID (and presumably KR) sucked equally so there's no sense in favoritism. The one person who could have asked for it, hana, was terrified of being perceived as being in any way different to the point of refusing 3D.
>>24590153>THE IDOLM@STER.Yeah sure
>>24590124Nah, IRyS has always gotten decent views. Don't let the doomers here fool you. She just gets killed in multi POV collabs.
>>24590124Faunaschizo, Fauna's first stream of this peaked at 8k and her second one 7k
>>24590124Fauna was a guerilla and Irys is not getting more than her yet?
>>24590124Nigger get a hobby.
>>24590142You insert the boys inside of the girls.
>>24590310Thats his hobby
>>24590124I know you're baiting but they're roughly the same. IRyS is capable of higher numbers but Fauna has more dedicated fans.
what is this irys vs fauna shit?
>>24590233This is what I've been saying, if you want (you)s:-pick a timeslot-pick someone to anti (don't pick entire gens-do it every daySchizo numbers will come to you and people will buy your schizo merch.
>>24590250>>24590253>>24590284>>24590310>>24590343>why is this thread so shit though?
>>24590090Want some screenshot?Here you go anonAlso this one https://twitter.com/aajjely/status/1527459595563814922?s=19
>>24590312More boys are the one who hard carrying the girls.
>>24590350We have a resident schizo who hates Fauna and posts about her for 10 hours a day, denigrating her in any way he can think of. Please undastand.
>>24590350It's the Fauna schizo.
>>24590376>>24590245
>>24590245Don't just stop at fucking bio and try to damage controlScroll down
>>24590343I actually think it's the other way around. Fauna is capable of higher numbers but IRyS has more dedicated fans. Have you seen how insane IRyS fans get?
>>24590374I'll respond to whatever I want to respond to faggot.
>>24590429>>24590153
>this is what your average hololive fan thinks about gift subsIt's over, they're going to complain about them being disabled until the girls turn them on
is it so hard to look at their likes or some shit to get a gist of their history ?
>>24590253>>24590284IRyS is going to get more. She just started the stream and it's still climbing. Fauna can't even get 10k on a brand new game she was the first to play. A total joke.
>>24590486Ok retard, enjoy your shit threads. Learn to ignore
>>24590376I want to respond to this with a "welcome to Manjisanji" tweet or something but I know some faggot here will screen cap it and I'll get made fun of.
>>24590499
>>24590499No one care what plebbit thinks. The girls themselves fucking hate it and wil ltake steps to minimize them. The fags at reddit know fucking nothing about any of the holos which is why they frequently sperg out about parasocial stuff even though holos love that shit.
>>24590445They're actually very similar and neither one really goes for very high peak streams normally so I'd call it a coin flip on their ceiling if streamed under ideal conditions.
>>24590499value of their opinion:/vt/ > nothing > discordfags > /r/edditors > chinks and nijiniggers
>>24590499How many of these are members?
>>24590445I would agree with this. IRyS also gets significantly more superchats.
>>24590499Why covered the names from a public discussion?
>>24590499Why should they care what Reddit says? They like the Homos more than some JP Holos
>>24590499how piss poor you have to be to not be able to member your oshi? and why would you want a free membership of someone you are not going to watch? if you are not paying for it clearly it means you don't need it
rrat: The faunaschizo is also the lamyschizo which is at the same time the gen5schizo
>>24590493And?He is a idol master fa and probably just a holokek trying to pretend he is EN Girls' fans.
>>24590560LmaoImma save this gif as memeThx anon
>>24590499Reddit people will do what they're told to do. As soon as Cover's official position is no gifted subs they're have post extolling the virtues of said position with thousands of upvotes and anyone who disagrees will be downvoted into oblivion. One week it's best to bow to China to appease them and save the CN girls and the next it's totally inevitable that they be cut loose but it's for the best.
>>24589894>>24590001Lets be fair holoEN half year goods were also acrylic stands and mascot charms and pins https://shop.geekjack.net/products/hololive-english-myth-half-year-anniversary-commemorative-goods-complete-packhttps://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/hololiveen_council_anhalfyear
>>24590686They dont even watch them
>>24590706>>24590153
>>24590709Yeah but then all of them pretty much had their birthdays right after that with the awesome personalized merch. The Niji birthday merch was also just pins and acrylic stands.
>>24590706>lot of retweet and talk about NijiEN girl>So WhAt!1?!1? ShE mAy Be A pReTeNdEr!1!1Fuck off
Does Anykara not have their talents design the merch? like custom stuff. Merch like Tako beanbags or Korone's boxing gloves/sandbag etc
>>24590720Which makes their opinion even more worthless
>>24590499>Mumei is going to create a members tier for gifting thats cheaper for emotes only>Ame has already done this>Ina ranted about it a bit alreadykind of upsetting these people think its just fans that want membership streams to stay the way they are already.
>>24590704Gen 5 schizo is more articulate and creative, he occasionally comes up with some funny stuff and seems to be borderline trolling. The Fauna guy is borderline brain damaged and just makes the laziest and dumbest comments possible.
>>24590706Did you just sperg out when you read the word idol or something?
>>24589335Luxiem has gotten more merch in 6 months than the NijiEN girls combined. Think of it this way, Luxiem has 2.5 years combined in "man hours". LazuLight has 3 years, Obsydia has 2.5 years, and Ethyria has 2.6 years. 30 months vs 98 months in total. Nijisanji is profitable because they do this, Luxiem is significantly more than an order of magnitude more profitable than all the girls combined.
That Ollie thread actually picked up a ton of steam. I was kind of surprised a lot of the thread lambasted her. Not that they were wrong, Ollie was a fucking retard, but yeah. The thread was less about gifted content and more about expecting member content (like board posts) to not make their rounds on the internet it seems
>>24590499I had the displeasure of going through that thread and most of them are blaming the girls for being against gift subbing.They're also telling the girls to stay in their lane and don't get personal with their fanbase.
>>24590709>shit quality merchAnd holokeks are laughing at us for our merch?Shamless
>>24590811If they fucking watched streams they'd know a good chunk of holoen, when it was first rolling out to the JPs as a test, were hard against it. But they don't fucking watch streams and then go and get mad that people are upset about it when the holos themselves don't want it
>>24590704He's also the pink Lamy schizo.
lazulight is part of anycolor but blackblack is nijicn, they're a separate entity
>>24590811They'd need to actually watch streams.The amount of indirect shitting they do on JP holos by mocking parasocial stuff is insane. They seem to cope with the mental gymnastics that "w-well all the holos share my opinion but they just can't say it due to le toxic idol culture".
>>24590499Here is the comment.https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/ut4hje/remember_people_know_your_boundaries/i98crep/?context=999Tbf this is partly because of the Ollie's rant in member which heavily affect this dumbfuck who don't have their own opinion and just upvote with the hivemind.
>>24590807It's more expensive and they aren't guaranteed to sell a bunch like with Holos. Only the top 20-30% of Nijis could reliably sell out a full lot of goods.
>>24590807Not for birthdays or such, but some of them do do custom merch like Sanbaka Anniversary did. There are simply too many talents for them to try and do custom merch for each and every one of their birthdays.
>>24590706had a look through who he follows and the closest thing to hololive he follows is UI and Mika Pikazo
>>24590849Sometimes I feel like Reddit doesn't even like Hololive. They're just there because it's a big fandom
>>24590807The talents will have to pay for custom merch
>>24590499They don't even watch stream. Imaging not giving money to something that you claimed to enjoy.
>>24590709The difference is that all of them got the same merch, you don't have this situation where one group of girls got special six month anniversary merch while the other group gets Jack shit
>>24590846People keep endlessly reposting the Ollie thing as bait. It's probably SEAmonkeys fighting each other in there.
>>24590938Then probably just holokek using his alt account to shit nijisanji.
>>24590811Redditors? Watch streams?
>>24590499>Is only 5$ that separates you from others is not that special meanwhile they can't give the 5$....
>>24590924>lockedwait what the hell kek
>>24591006>>24590706Nijiniggers and their persecution complex
>>24590499What kind of fucking question is this? Because they're the actual customers you dipshit. Fucking reddit.
>>24590846What happened to EOPs man? They'd have lambasted anyone posting members content just a year ago, now they're>w-well you shouldn't expect us not to leak it also I don't want to be a tier 2 fan 10 dollars is my wages for 20 years
>>24590924The comment section is more diverse in opinion than i expected after see that screenshot.
>>24590945Must be a TTfag
Gura gold today
>>24591055I'm not a niji fan you retard.I just analyze for you guys that holokek is probably just a niji fan wanna be .
>>24591074I'm glad no one leaks JP members content here that much. There is sometimes juicy things the sisters would love to gossip about in them but they never touch this board.
>>24591070>Artia flair
>>24591092I don't know why you'd expect any screenshot of reddit to not be cherrypicked to shit, pretty much anyone who posts reddit screenshots here only does so because there's a narrative they are trying to push
>>2459111925k is too low for a gold. The JP can beat that.
>>24591149I can smell your nipples from here, nijjer.
>>24591149>t.
>>24591223He's just baiting. It's obvious King will get gold today because of CR cup. Might podium, though
>>24590499Its gatekeeping behavior between fans and customers. All customers are fans, but not every fan is a customer.
https://youtu.be/0Bm6y7AYz8IAre you guys ready for the debuff detective setting up a guerilla stream in 3 minutes in the middle of 3 EN streams?
>>24590142Fujos nakadashi on clients to have money on merch, then scoop out the fetus with the hanger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bm6y7AYz8I5 MINUTE WAITING ROOM LETSSSSSSSSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>24591332waw...
>>24590924i decided to read the rest of the thread and man i fucking hate so many of these people it feels like they dont even watch the girls
here comes Laplus with a solid 10k a few minutes after going live.
>>24591332Is this timeslot the closest thing EN has to JP hell hours? Why the fuck do they overlap so much in it
>>24591284It's like comparing people who buy anime blu-rays and people who pirate anime. They're both fans, but you're obviously going to listen to the actual paying customers
>>24591074The redditors who are there now are not the same ones who were active before EN.The current subreddit basically flanderizes every JP holo into one or two quirks and then spams that in every meme. Even the "KFP" in that link doesn't fucking watch Kiara cause Kiara was way more extreme about it in wanting time gated membership content (like Fantia).
>>24591360that's not gonna work debuffsonit's apex season during jp hours
I wish Bae would stop overlapping so much. The only reason she's not NijiEN tier is because the other girls funnel into her when they finish.
>>24591366Just go check their accounts' activities then.
>>24591393They're clipwatchers. Of course they only know the bare minimum
>>24591366I ain't reading that shit. Are they pretending the girls don't like the barrier and fan segregation? I've never met a holo that acted the same way to members as general fans.
>>24591332>Doesn't stream when nobody is streaming>Decide to stream when there're many overlappingWhat's the problem with Amelia?
>>24589335I honestly want to reply "Welcome to manjisanji" to every one of the complainers, talk me out of it.
>>24591469she's literally anti-numbers, not even a joke
>>24591511do it pussy
>>24591332Sasuga Debuffson, even when it seems impossible to overcome herself, she always manages to do it somehow
>>24591382Because it’s 8PM in PST, which is primetime for the western side of NA. It’s why you see Ame/Kronii stream there (100% likely they live on west) and Mumei streams late also so it seems likely she lives on west coast too. Irys is a noon streamer and Bae I have no fucking clue. Isn’t Australia time like 2-3 hours ahead of JP timezone? She should just be night streamer man
>>24591511It's a lot of effort for something people can report for bot behaviour. Just do it on the top post and that should be enough
>>24591469did you think "debuff detective" was a joke?
>>24591511No anon dont do eet~~~, imagine the seethe~~~~
>>24591440sifted only one seemed to watch streams and only ever referenced gura streams
>>24591429She needs to take early JP hours (4/5am EST). This would be better hours for her Korean fans, and she would catch some IRyS funnels since IRyS frequently streams that late.
>>24591268>>24591231Stop denying the truth retard
dear lord jesus irys is so bad at this game i'm surprised people aren't leaving
>>24591771You seriously think Irystocrats watch her because she's good at games ?
>>24591771People don't watch vtubers play wii sports for the skill.
>>24590924People on reddit are so paranoid about parasocial relationships that they really are starting to hurt the girls feelings even when it's their choice to do things in a certain way..jesas..
>>24591763NIjiseethe
>Look at that beautiful numberIRYS YES
>>24589793Can confirmed
>>24591994It's because TT and Twitch streamers have been shitting on it for years.Hololive subreddit has the largest overlap with the TT subreddit.
>>24591584How the fuck is there not an east coast Holo?
>>24592299You say that but you have Ina, Fauna, and Gura taking up pre and actual primte time. East coast would not stream at fucking 12pm est, that's retarded.
>>24592299There is no asian in East CoastIf there are they will probably aleady are niji's fans.
>>24592299Her name is Gawr Gura!!Fauna is likely east coast or central since 6PM EST is kind of in that spot of being both occupied with life while also having free time as a viewer. It’s typically dinner time or you know, doing household shit. But yeah, I mean when you get down to it, Mori and Irys are in Japan, Sana and Bae are Australian, Kiara is Austrian and Kronii/Ame are almost certainly west coast. That leaves just Gura, Ina, Mumei and Fauna
>>24592332Ina is gonna be gone for like a month.
>>24592425I'm pretty sure Fauna is west coast as well. She just streams earlier.
>>24590499Do they not understand that, maybe... just maybe... that Holos do not want to have to deal with haters, non-fans and the immature randomly getting access to their more "personal" streams and shitting up the work environment where they feel the most relaxed at?Is it a crime against humanity to gas these retarded redditors?
>bae and mon moving to minecraft>with their shitty ass tango streamim so mad
>>24591994the ultimate boogeyman
>>24592450Begone thot!!Holokeks can watch their time slot taking over by niji bits by bits.
>>24592493Why are they like this?
>>24592455Yeah she could very well be an afternoon streamer. It’d explain why her viewership climbs up as it gets closer to primetime. More people getting out of work on west coast, people finishing up their obligations and such
>>24592556not gonna ask you to watch the stream but, they already finish the game and want play more
>>24578238jwu, this just fuels more fire to my theory that NijiEN is going for group pushes instead of individual liver performances, because you'd need the SCs to still keep coming in even when 90% of their content become collabs.
Everyone give a round of applause to Laplus Darkness, for she streamed a grand total of 40 minutes
>>24592655yeah we KNEW THAT IT WOULD HAPPENthis should have been a MC stream from the very begginingFUCK OPERATION TANGO THERE WAS NO REASON TO FINISH IT.
>>24592655OoooI tune in late so thats what happenedT. Different anon
>>24592711LMAO, I love her. This brat needs correction.
>>24592791I wanna say muh dixck but my FBI are watching me
>>24592711she just said don't want eat alone tho,
>>24592711Truly a hololive superstar
>>24592912kek who made this shit? i hope it's posted on that twitter thread.
https://youtu.be/dHGM8bZ0qfghttps://youtu.be/injd7gHrIGUWhat exactly went wrong with Chloe? For a holo that is somewhat focused on music, her covers and orisongs are doing very badly.
>>24592912The image is missing Nijisanji Taipei and Nijisanji Shanghai
>>24592990people dont like her real voice
>>24592990her first few song releases being tiktok length shit really filtered people from checking out songs she releases. That shit pissed me off too.
>>24592711she just wanted to eat a borger with the viewers
>Imagine all those balls hitting the girl's facesIRyS please...
>>24590499I genuinely can't say if you're serious os not so I'll give you a serious reply that reddit really doesn't matter
>>24592990The orisongs is because she releases a short version instead of the full (Idk if she has talked about this before, but I guess she's releasing an album with all the full versions later)Regarding this cover, idk
>>24592990yeah that's what you get for baiting with your short half songs
>>24593149I hope so. The short versions she has released sound amazing and just make me hungry for the full version.
>>24592455Pretty sure Fauna is East Coast.
>>24592990considering her music stuff was on the range of 20k views on her PL she must be happy with those views
redditor only watch clip isnt
>>24591994they dont care they just want to enforce a no parasocial aspect because of all the negative buzz its associated with and be on the "right side". its honestly the sanest take from them but at the same time Hololive is not the sanest streamer group, its literally an exclusive all girls stream group that has 90%+ male audiences who latch on for many reasons that wouldnt be healthy for solid chunks especially the paying bunch, and for the girls some might end up latching back to their more dedicated base the members.and for the record im all for keeping membership tab/streams more exclusive with the girls who want it that way.
>>24593269The thing I don't understand is that "parasocial" shit started with regular fucking streamers and still goes on with regular fucking streamers and no one seems to have an issue with this but when it's vtubers it's bad
>>24589335Looks like the niji subreddit is getting some activity because of this.https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/uthpco/luxiem_half_anniversary_goods/
>>24589335Why would you prioritize the girls when it comes to merchandise?Who do you think will sell more merch, Luca or Petra, Ike or Millie, Vox or Elira?
>>24593269>>24593324because only vtubers have gotten canceled because of parasocial shit, as in Rushia. The 3d girls have parasocial shit but their antis can't cancel them.
>>24593324is literally because normalfags learned the term Idol culture, and when they do a 5 minutes google search the first thing they see is a bald girl crying
The guy who temporarily took over for the holosong ranking videos is requesting for Hololive fans to vote for their favorite 3 Holo original songs. He'll be compiling the results and do a video highlighting the results. Just need to put a comment on the video below with your favorite 3 Hololive original songs with a sentence or two saying why you like it. Comments in English will be counted.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05-emV6XKDM
>>24593403Rushia didn't fucking get cancelled because of parasocial shit, people were STILL defending her until Cover shitcanned her for being a retard and leaking info
>>24592711The next face of holojp!
>>24593387WellEnjoy the backlashIts not just about money zhang,
>>24593486ive talked to people as early as last week that still think she got canned because mafumafu messaged her and not because of the stuff that ensued afterwards
>>24588156hey man
>>24593486nigger, why do you think it was a controversy in the first place? because of parasocial unicorns.
>>24592990Holy kek that's fucking depressing but she got SCs out the ass anyway. Can't have em all I guess.
>>24593568All she had to do was pretend it didn't happen. It is the easiest fucking out for any content creator; just pretend it never happened, and everything would've blown over. It's her fault entirely.
>>24593269The funniest thing is that the membership thing is about parasocial but from another side.Vtubers can have a parasocial relationship with their fanbase too. There is a reason they share more private things on membership that only can be shared with people that they can trust
>>24593486Tell that to the retarded EOPs who still think she got fired for having a boyfriend.
>>24591284>gatekeepingno it's paid content. what kind of retarded reasoning is this? most girls even say that you don't need to member/SC to be a good fan
>>24593608>>24593619why do you think she leaked shit and started drama in the first place though? to keep her parasocial unicorns
>>24593578>130k views in a day>fucking depressingYou faggots have number rot. Those are fine numbers.
>>24592711Don't worry, Cover makes sure to shoehorn her in all sorts of sponsorship streams. She's their favorite amongst holox. Check the main channel.>>24592990Chloeschizo won...
>>24593480It's just gonna get voted on by hoshikeks who actually care about this stuff.
>>24593692Nigger even Orca was saying he'd still follow her up until she got fired. She would've kept them easily had she either shut the fuck up and waited for it to blow over, or continue streaming like nothing happened.
>>24593618It's not different with Costco memberships. It's not like you can't shop at Costco without memberships
>>24593336All these holokeks pretending they are nijifans…Jesus…
>>24593336It's pretty funny the comments are either>What the fuck anycolor, show love for the girlsor Luxiem fans going>I understand you're upset, but Luxiem is way more popular so it makes sense
Do Bae and Moona not know they can announce they're playing Minecra?
>>24593713In these parts, anyone who isn't half a Suisei/Gura/Mori is considered a failure
>>24593149>>24593170>>24593192There're no "short versions". That's exactly the original length of the songs. She cheaped out and opted to write her songs by herself instead of commisioning actual professionals.
>>24593802ame is a bad influence on the girls.
>>24593801This is going to drive whatever support the girls have left to the ground.I also wonder what NijiEN girls feel about this, those who are not actively sucking up to the guys of course.
>>24593753Don't be reasonable, anon. Anti-idol redditors ITT are just as schizo as the schizos that sign up for GFE streamers.
>>24593841>She cheaped out and opted to write her songs by herself instead of commisioning actual professionalsWow, that makes it more impressive. I legit think her songs sound fucking great. Hopefully she does expand on them and releases something as a full version.
>>24593753well, look at matsuri's hand yab and towa's male voice yab, what do you think she expected? obviously she's still retarded though
>>24593943>well, look at matsuri's hand yab???Guess what happened, she streamed like normal and nothing happened. The Towa yab was her dumb fault for saying it was a cover staff.
>>24593801I love the ''Nijisanji has no favoritism is all about demand'' cope, Niji always had favoritism
>>24593841Isn't that better? Literally the idol journey right there.
>>24593900Nijien boys are fucking hard carrying these whores.How the fuck would they complain about it?The boys deserve these.
>>24593983Saying it's all about demand IS favoritism lmao
Its never... fucking cross my mind that kobo would actually appear hereIts just coincidence i knowhttps://youtu.be/_ICc722Nt34
you see posts like these >>24593991 and then you remember that faggot that spent like an hour writing walls of text about what's wrong with them just leeching for numbers
>>24593713Isn't she a better singer than Ina? For her to underperform this badly in comparison is nothing short of embarrassing.
>>24593735This. The comments section is full of Suisei. Pisses me off, I did put mogu, palette, and doggy god but I don't expect any of these to get many votes.
>>24593568>>24593692nah she blew shit out of proportion. mafu mafu took a lot longer to make a response to all that and he seemed to be much less affected than she thought she was gonna be. I don't think she did anything with malicious intent, probably very stressed on top of already having a few loose screws, but for her laying low on the start and ignoring it until a proper response could be made was ideal
>>24593943>what do you think she expectedAnon, Rushia whole over reaction was mostly coming from the mafumafyu side.Her own fans were well behaved as fuck while Mafumafu fujos, a very rabid fanbase, was about to tear both of them up because the message pretty much confirmed the rumors that they were not only an item but also living together.>it didn't, but in their minds it didRushia did everything she did mostly to try to save Mafumafu career, not herself.Had it been *any* other guy messaging her she would have shrugged it off.
>>24594134mafu got PR speak response thrown up, rushia couldnt wait for covers ass for a whole weekend as it happened right as the weekend hit iirc so she went to fucking japanese keemstar to try clear her name like a retard, a literal blacklisted eceleb by Cover
>>24594042Wait what, Kobo is popular with white people as well? She doesn't even pander!
>>24594209Considering korekore had a literal schizxo who thought hololive members were stalking him on as a big scoop it makes Rushia look even more retarded.
>>24594114not really. they're about the same skill wise. ina's voice is just not for everyone but takos really like it.
>Bae and Moona has actually been playing MC for 30 minutes nowAh.. pain… the numbers…
>>24594249The tech review guy in the vid is a well known weeb. It's not hard for someone like him to come across Hololive or Kobo.
>>24594209she still should have waited more. like other people said even some or her gachis like orca said they were going to follow her still
>>24594114>better singer>numbers threadand ina has been a way more consistent chuuba on numbers since forever. the lowest song she is involved is higher than chloe and even her karaoke numbers are better
>>24593715>She's their favorite amongst holoxIs she? I see Laplus even more than Chloe, she's in just about every official Cover project and collab. I would even say it's so frequent that her actual streaming content is suffering from it.
>>24594198Last time a mafumafu message showed up on her stream she just privated the stream and ignored it. Makes me wonder why she didn't have that sort of wisdom a few months ago. Also that anon is right, mfmf uses parasocial shit hard so in the end Rushia still fell by parasocial shit.
>doomposting about chloe after she got fucking 90k for her bday and it's been explained several times that she's literally fishing for a tiktok hit by spamming short shityou guys are replying to a schizo btw
>>24594254What got Rushia fired was not even just this event. By KoreKore account himself, she contacted him all the way back in 2021 offering him scoops (as some sort of dead hand for her) that NOT EVEN HE HIMSELF WOULD TOUCH, a guy that takes info even from legit schizosCover finding this out when they scanned her work accounts for previous communications with him must have been the reason
>>24593534What is it about then? It's not like the girls were getting merchandise before the boys debuted and now they are getting ignored.The only reason that Nijisanji EN didn't go the way of Nijisanji KR and Nijisanji ID is because Luxiem was a massive success, a far bigger one than Anycolor expected.
>>24593991>See the girls get unfair treatment>Want to talk back>Realize Luxiem are bringing more money for the company than 3 female waves in a year, hence Anycolor favoritism.>The only choice left is to shut the fuck up and cope with "Surely the girls will have their merch and big sponsor collab soon"Kek, being Nijifemale fan is even worse than being a cuck.
Kronii is contemplating being a whole ass bitch and taking up Fauna's timeslot
I heard Mumei was able to turn off member gifting. Is this true?
>>24594276Get your ears checked anon. Chloe isn't the best holo singer, but she's definitely better than Ina.
>>24594042This guy had one with ayame before
>>24594474i didnt see her get any gifted subs during her short now privated POV of Fauna Mumei collab so maybe ?
>>24594401It's definitely the Chloe schizo, randomly bringing her up out of nowhere all the time.Also it's time for numberfags to accept that some chubbas aren't meant to get big numbers for their music stuff, be it because the lack of shilling or just how mediocre their songs are in general
>>24594474No, she just told her hoomans not to gift memberships, I still had the option to gift even as a viewer who was gifted.
>>24594502That's because no one was doing it, but it was possible. I should've done one as a test.
>>24594445If you enjoy female vtubers and actively choose to watch Manjisanji over Hololive you are just a pure contrarian. There is nothing there for you and you will always be cucked for their real cash cows, the boys.
>>24594455What, like permanently? What a complete cunt.
>>24594445Always remember Luna...
Saw a comment that the Luxiem goods, puppets specifically, would be be shipped sooner and they actually are.https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/news/u81ff2qn629chttps://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/news/ck0wq76pw
>>24594436Here you go anon>>24594445>>24593801>>24593983
>>24594420>a guy that takes info even from legit schizosAnd Rushia isn't?All jokes aside, Rushia's info was probably a mix of babble and shit that would get him sued. It's funny how Cover seemed on Rushia's side completely at the start saying they don't police personal lives and have her featured in hologra.
i love Nui because she kinda outcast herself and somehow unlike other nijisanji streamerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cISp3tGrVYo
>>24594561>late aug for luxiem>mid sept for lazulight
>>24594554She wants to "accommodate EU" Actual fucking horseshit since that's midnight anyway
Okay since they are a lot of holo faggots in this thread like >>24594445Where do you think Nijisanji EN would be right now if Luxiem didn't debut. Do you remember the viewers the girls were getting? Do you remember the crash right after Ethyria debuted?You must remember since you are the same niggers that used to mock the girls because of their numbers. Do you think that they would survive, that Nijisanji EN would surive, if instead of 5 guys they had 3 girls debut in December last year? What do you think the numbers of the branch would look like?
>>24594552SeriouslyLuna set the example for what all females in Manjisanji should do. Just join Hololive. Look how much more successful she is. I don't want any number brain rotted fags telling me Luna gets bad numbers either.
>>24594338wtf haven't they changed their stream titles...
>>24594561Holy shit. They're on sale 3 weeks after Lazulight merch AND ship sooner.
>>24594615OMFG Isreal. Shit is just sad
>>24594600i agree. nui tits are good
>>24594209>rushia couldnt wait for covers ass for a whole weekendAnon, she couldn't wait for even 2 fucking hours, if korekore's timeline is anything to go by.
>>24594579>no argumentholonigger detected
>>24594615>>24594561Oh my god this is hilarious. It would get under a normal fan's skin, but I'm getting massive satisfaction from all the nijibeggars on this board who are probably seething about it the most.Months of enduring their retarded shilling and chemistry cope only to have their branch overtaken by literal prostitutes worse than vshojo who talk about their bussies, who are immediately treated as royalty compared to their gen 1. Can there be a greater victory than this?
>>24594600Anon...Wtf is this??>7k watch>40 mins in>less than 1k likes?????????
>>24594679do yo remember the OG EN?
>>24594679They should have just debutted guys in the first wave
>>24590499the JP girls don't seem to kind gifted memberships right? I hope some of these people get those. they're in for a rude awakening about parasocial content
>>24594198>>24594209the parasocial shit was still the trigger, you can say it was her response which lead to her firing, which is true but ultimately being fired started from the fact that she indulged in being parasocial. Comparing with the fact that not a single 3d female streamer has had any huge controversy over males (Pokimane and Amouranth have both streamed with males). You can see the difference.
>>24594389>parasocialThe use of this word is like 9 years olds when they learn their first curse word>what the hell! >hell hell hell hell>this is hellthey use it to pepper their sentences even when it makes zero sense.Being interested to a fictional character and caring for its well being, becoming happy when it's happy, sad when it's sad and getting involved in the "plot" is what makes good drama good.Now, there are obvious retards that take that to the next level and genuinely think they are in a meatspace relationship with the character. These are the absolute minority be it in the vtuber scene and in the entertainment scene as a whole.But retards use "parasocial" in the context of>having real feeling evoked by fictional charactersComfort, happiness, sadness, to have feelings evoked is the whole point of fiction.Kids got really fucking sad when Optimus Prime got killed in the Transformers but that doesn't put them into a "parasocial" relationship with the character.I wish people would reserve that word for the actual schizos instead of for anyone that is invested in the plot
>>24594743>Blindchama nijikek refuse to readYup, the absolute retard
>>24594689Most of the girls in Nijisanji wouldn't get offered a position in Hololive these days.Luna lucked out by being the only person to get transferred when Hololive was still relatively small.
>>24594758umamusume touristsnothing new
>>24594758>like ratiowhen are you going to drop this bullshit
>>24594679Oh nyoo NijiEN was only the third most popular EN vtuber corporation, and only the most succesful Niji side branch. You're honestly acting like these women didn't, for better or worse, take up a nice little chunk of EN vtubing mindshare and they don't deserve some basic fucking respect for it.
>>24594679WTF are you talking about, did numberot eat your brain? Even a fucking 500 CCV streamer was able to live comfortably, let alone a vtuber with fan notoriously known for throwing donation left and right.
>>24594679>10 chuubas averaging 1k-2.5k viewersYeah, 100% they'd survive. They more than broke even and landed a few sponsorships. What would have happened is they'd remain on the back back burner.
>>24594758gacha tourists
>>24594758>think nips will hit like buttonthis is what happen if 100% nips watch your stream
>>24594758I don't see anything except some tits.
>>24594679i'm not disagreeing with you, but it's still fucking funny that they still gets treated likes 2nd class citizens.
>>24594828>>24594821And no fck shit dropped a like?Are JOP like button hard to press or something?
>>24594795Eh pekora seems fine with it since she doesn't really do that much membership content.
>>24594791I agree, instead of 2 all-girl waves they should have debuted 1 all-girl and 1 all-boy wave. But that doesn's answer the question. We would be in the same spot that we are now. With the girls having 1-2K median because no audience in NA would care about them because they watch ONLY Hololive and the boys would get 5-10K because the asian female demographic would take an interest in them, just like they did with Luxiem and, in a lesser degree, Noctyx.>>24594765>the OG ENYou mean Nijisanji ID? What about them?
>>24594912they are astonishingly autistic about the engagement buttons
>>24594912Yes. Yelling like and subscribe actually works, how surprising!
>>24594801What mfmf did was textbook parasocial. Also I ain't reading your novel.
>>24594929i can see it not being a problem for girls who dont treat their members too much differently, like I can see Fauna from EN being overall fine with gifting since her membership isnt really anything.
>>24594679>Where do you think Nijisanji EN would be right now if Luxiem didn't debut.They would be much worse.What does have to do with the post you linked, >>24594445, talking about favoritism?
These girls fans' butthurt whining are start to annoying me…All I can say isSuccess breeds jealousy
>>24593786NIjiseethe
>>24594935>You mean Nijisanji IDo...okey. not gonna ask anything
>>24594912anon, when people say that nips dont have the habit of pressing the like button is a legit thing
>>24594912we already did this discussion a thousand times.
The funniest part about that schizo is that he was wrong, she never even passed the guerilla stream let alone the first one.
>>24594679You fucking retarded piece of shit. If not for the 3 girls wave and Luxiem instead is the 1st group for NijiEN you think anyone would watch, create clips or meme those faggots ? All of their RM are literally 0 view twitch streamer, failed coombait streamer, or random fat fuck. The NijiEN girls got it rough but they atleast create a solid base for those faggots before chinks even know about them. And now they're being treated like disposable toys.
>>24595013Holobros... perhaps I treated you too harshly...
>>24595004>like I can see Fauna from EN being overall fine with giftingYou don't watch her or her member streams then.
>>24594959I'm not talking about mfmf anymore, but the general use of "parasocial". Retards throw it around in a context it does not belong.End of concert, girl addresses the audience>Minna! Aishiteru yo! >Thank you, coming! I love you!Retards>SEE SEE! PARASOCIAL! PARASOCIAL!It's an overused word.
it's so funny to see small versions of the dramas nijijp has gone through on nijien, can't wait for one of the homos to slip up and mock the girls' fans
>>24594852>>24594856Are you new around here? Were you around the LazuLight, Obsydia and Ethyria debuts? I think I am talking to a bunch of newfags.>>245948661K viewership with no sponsorships and merchandise (because Anycolor is incompotent) while being a CORPO is a good enough audience to survive? Why are you such a lying nigger?Pomu would still be a wagie, Reimu and Nina would be streaming in front of 400-500 people. AND more girls would be debuting every 2-3 months until every girl would be a 3-view and the branch would face the same fate as KR and ID.>>24594911That's how Anycolor works for better or for worse (for worse IMO). The streamers that bring the most revenue also get more merch and spotlight.
>>24594795What are normalfags gonna do when a holo they thought wasn't doing that sort of thing is blowing kisses, saying I love you, and that it's fine to think of them as a GF in members streams?
>>24590709But I remember the real halfyear goods where plushies? no?
>>24594042Hololive will grow larger
>>24595091Holocope seething
>>24595090i literally do though? shes never felt biased towards members and her member streams are kinda just like usual comfy fauna but amped up.
>>24595160>1K viewership with no sponsorships and merchandise (because Anycolor is incompotent) while being a CORPO is a good enough audience to survive?Funny because Nijifags coped with this exact argument >>24594856 for the longest time, and now that a more successful wave arrived the argument suddenly changes
>Nijisanji should give the girls the same treatment when it comes to merchandise as the boys.
>>24594581I mean they didn't have reasons to police their personal lives until possibly now. one thing that people don't understand is that this type of relationship is built on trust and is kinda molded by both parts, for example rushia gave them a precedent to be more controlling but if they get too controlling they might create "distrust" on the girls
>>24595241Vox Sama I kneel...at least you make me laugh, please get your outfit faster than the other girls
>>24595241Who ?
>>24595010The post goes mostly to the faggots that think that the girls and their fans should complain.The more popular the streamer the more frequent the merchandise (since the more popular Nijis can sell more merchandise, it's not rocket science).
>>24595166probably cry more in reddit. all of that is assuming they will actually watch streams
ITS TIME FOR KING TO TAKE THE GOLD
>>24595084>>24595274The most popular Niji EN girl btw.Rope yourself, nigger.
>>24595241Yeah we're the ones seething lolPerhaps this concept is foreign to a chink, but its sad to see a horrible fate befall a rival, even if you traded blows in the past
>>24595274I don't think people in this thread are suggesting they should, just pointing out they don't and dunking on the receiving end of this poor bargainActually that was one of the speculations from the start>Luxiem will flop and NijiEN fans will get dunked on that account>Luxiem will succeed, manjisanjiEN will form and NijiEN fans of the girls will get dunked on that account
>>24595160being in niji is better than being an indie sure, but they will be dissatisfied by the management sooner or later (like melissa, luna, and others) and eventually leave.
>>24595434Isn't Nina the most popular NijiEn girl, having knelt to the fujos?
It's time to make another bait thread
>>24595271I don't care about all the bait that's posted in these threads. The point is that the branch would be half-dead by now without Luxiem.
>>24595417He'll probably slip again. For that is the fate of the Silver King
>>24595417he really needs to step up his game and get some kills, 32k for a CR cup scrim is dissapointing.
>>24595500Just eliminate EN and add CN just for them only
>>24595371>to the faggots that think that the girls and their fans should complain.The girls, maybe not, if they're smart they'll settle for the smaller piece of the pie instead of nothing.Their fans? Of course they should complain, there is evidence in the same field that it is possible to run the same business without favoritism
>>24595274Isn't that still higher than Vox's Overwatch stream?
>>24595417this one will take king's goldhttps://holodex.net/watch/40fCLKcLnC8
>>24595564just use that kronii sc image, should be good enough, people are gonna post sub numbers and argue for like 200 posts
>>24595526Are any of the girls in NijiEN particularly ambitious about being anything other than a streamer? Melissa wanted an actual music career iirc.
>>24595500I wont even lie and say I was more towards the first half, I expected 500-1000 viewers for 2-3 of them and 1 to be genuinely strong like 2-2.5k which was strong for NijiEN back then and maybe another between those 2 number sets. Instead we got NijiENs golden goose gen which was a surprise.
>>24595642No I just used >>24592912 instead
>>24595638damn you fucker, using holodex instead actual youtube link
>>24595666I dont know but Rosemi thought that she could make her streaming career as her main job
The drama about favoritism among NijiEN fans right now is exactly why Hololive does things like including Mel in big time sponsorships or having Sana be one of the POVs for the big Christmas stream. Everybody gets to be part of the box.
>>24595500I 100% thought they'd mog the girls but only with 5k ccv and better SCs. I did not anticipate their popularity in Asia and their popularity in NA fell short of my expectations.
>>24595666nah
>>24595552There is so much the fujos can do.>Nina median CCV in November 2021: 1,023>Nina median CCV in April 2022: 2,399Pic related is the sub growth between Nina and Selen.
>>24595730I refuse to give Nene a view. If I watch her stream I keep it muted in the foreground and have it on in another tab. I have 2 streams open but give 0 views.
I wonder what the unityfags in NijiEN fandom think. Like, they move to NijiEN because boys x girls equality thing, but management has prioritized boys more than girls these days.They must feel quite salty for sure.
>>24595859the fucking jump right as she converged to overtake Selen lmao
What's Cover getting out Hololive Error anyway? It doesn't seem to get many views
>>24595970a failed experiment.
>>24595772Hololive can't find a true knockout star, that's why they rely on group image to thrive.Nijisanji has multiple mainstream stars so it's easy to focus on popular members.
>>24595772the thing is, Niji fan bases are dependent on who's more vocal. The NijiEN girls fans are drowned out by the fujos so they won't be listened to.
>>24595970relay for the actual game coming out next year
>>24595970They should get a better writer/director
>>24595772Wait what drama? Is this something relating to Millie's tweet about crying and Mysta not feeling well enough to stream yesterday?
>>24595772>The drama about favoritism among NijiEN fans right now is exactly why Hololive does thingsI don't think it is because of fear of fan backslash.Most companies, specially the ones growing out of solo founders or initial small teams, take a lot from the personal characteristics of the founder and founding team.Hololive initial team was pretty much Tanigo, Sora and YuujinA plus a handful of techies and salesmen and if there is one thing Tanigo proved>specially by his handling of Holostarsis that he is a "no one gets left behind" type of guy and this philosophy ended up permeating the whole companyI think he would do that even if the fan backslash was in the opposite direction
>>24595970People are probably waiting for it to be finished
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Vgj38_kf4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2y6FtRWVX0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-06xgJ9aSocs-sugoi. holo shorts 3d dance soon?
>>24596013At least Cover is making something to branch out of their streaming niche, unlike Anykara who fails at every expansion.
>>24596020Ririmu's computer just crashed mid stream
>>24595970they did error for the same 2 reasons they're doing a lot of projects: they're trying to use up piles of money that are going to devalue if they go unused, and they're trying to fish for a hit on another medium that allows them to progress on the multimedia goal
>>24595970They're going to write it off as a business loss to lower the taxes paid.
>>24589335I am laughing too much from all the schadenfreude.Why is this so funny.I don't even hate the girls, just...lmao
>>24596052Tanigo is a dumbass then, even big companies aren't that virtualistic.
>>24595859Meanwhile, she failed to get 800 ccv for the PUBG collab, kekhttps://vrabi.net/video/RoX3txwpZcA
>>24596161It seems to be working for him so far.
>>24595772This is not a drama.Just bunch of holofags pretending they are niji fans and whining.They just want to sabotage the niji's box pushing.
>>24593336kekETA until this ages like milk?
>>24596048See >>24589335Specifically the replies
>>24596189Sister Claire hinted that she might take a long break and probably go on hiatus
>>24596082Anykara's expansion plan is shipping off all the popular talents to record labels.
>>24596020>>24596161NIJISEETHE
>>24596201Riku would have a problem with that especially with the war on Ukraine
>>24596185Working my ass, Hololive can't find one breakout success these days while Anykara is poised to take over Asia.
>>24596257where do you people come from
>>24596257No I think the surging oil prices will affect the merch prices that have been low right now
>>24593801>I understand you're upset, but Luxiem is way more popular so it makes senselel
>>24596257nijisis... Its time to let goAlso in other news the nijien thread go so triggered they are spamming scat posts to try and get rid of nijifujos
>>24595176You're right. It seems like they were only announced during their half anniversary but was only available for purchase four months later.https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/m5gn71/press_release_vtuber_group_hololive_english/
>>24595970>New 3d school outfits for all the girls (that appear to be pretty easy to make so they set up a process for it)>New game coming out in the SUMMER (japanese and horror in the summer)>VA Practice for the girls>Part of a wider push to be more than -just- streamers
>>24596161I seriously don't get that strategy to be honest, it goes against what I've learned in BA.
>>24596311KEK someone post the unicorn slaying screenshot, now seems like a good time to grudge post
>>24593801they arent wrong, Luxiem literally propelled a stagnate branch of Holo-lite into its own thing
>>24596355Maybe he's counting on the rising petrodollar cost and inflation to accumulate wealth
>>24596199That's a shame. She's kinda a fixture.>>24596196God, that better not happen. Don't niji """livers""" pay for their own outfits? Luxiem is hell of a lot richer than the fem*les so they can do what they want.
I feel bad for any unicorns that NijiEN girls have left. Sooner or later, they might just stream for fujos.
>>24596414First one is free iirc
>>24596355Not every company needs to follow the exact same playbook to work. It's as simple as that.
where da numbas?
the fact that people didn't expect this out of manjisanji is actually quite fucking amazing
>>24596530come back in JP primetime, its the dead hours right now
>>24595241Anon I don't know if you've been paying attention but the only thing we've been doing is watching the fireworks that is NijiEN's viewer base fighting amongst themselves due to the Manjisanji favoritism. We are literally doing nothing in this case.
>>24596477>watch Manjisanji>men are involved with his oshi>*surprised Pikachu face*They only have themselves to blame
>>24596526Yeah, that's why Anykara is much bigger than Cover.
>>24596530in da ground. (Nothing interesting to note until JP primetime)
>>24596477I don't see I want to marry Selen poster around much kek
>>24596538NijiEN is most people's first exposure to Nijisanji. A ton of the non-fujo population are ex-Hololive watchers.
>>24596477still not as bad as vsj unicorns which yes im astonished actually existed.
Why did Bae, Moona, and Lapras private their recent streams?
>>24596538Im guessing its the recent fans of the EN branch who never followed the JP branch
>>24596575First. Why follow the rules when you make the rules
I wonder, will this favoritism cause NijiEN unicorns to run back to Hololive? Do we welcome them guys?
>>24596619They can go fuck themselves
>>24596619I mean theyre free to choose their oshi i dont care
>>24596355Hololive treats each member as their own brand, so they're given equal opportunity. Whereas Nijisanji is the brand, so they prioritise what sells and the others might get a slice of the pie
>>24596619They won't run back to Hololive. They'll probably run to some indie or smaller corpo instead.
>>24590090the link doesn't work on mobile for some reason.I only saw Luxiemfags celebrating on my phone, but on my PC I saw all the seething.
>>24596619they will stay there and keep donating like the cucks that they are.
>>24596355They have to maintain a certain balance so the "talents" don't get catty, spreading the wealth can do that. Social engineering them into not wanting to leave and having other members literally fall over themselves to talk others out of quitting pays off since Hololive markets a "family" vibe.
>>24596704>Hololive treats each member as their own brandThis is the first I've heard of this, how can each member be their own brand anyway?
>>24596780Uh, what you explain sounds like a cult
>>24596824Yes. That is exactly what I mean.
>>24590811>>24590868>>24590921>>24592495>>24594795Friend and the sheep both gift memberships and only have one tier. If there is a problem with them it seems to be specifically on the EN side of things.
>>24596824Fanculting has been the norm since apple anon try to keep up
>>24595278Cover was operating on blind trust with the girls as they like most people believed no one would be retarded enough to kill their Hololive career overnight by leaking sensitive company information. It was a much needed wake up call for Cover and some of the Holos cough cough Mori that could have turned out so much worse.
>>24596789compare how the Nijisanji official channel was the second channel to 1m. Meanwhile in Hololive, multiple holos got to 1m before the main channel
>>24596619What sort of double think would make a retard that's been shilling his nijiEN oshi for almost a year and coping about chemistry drop her and come back to hololive? Like all they've done for months is shit on hololive
>>24596619Weren't those already cucked from the start? They were some of the most anti-idols ITT, so I imagine they're the same out there.
>>24596550I'm sure they think everyone complaining on that Twitter post is actually a secret Holofan.
>>24596789The same way John Cena and The Rock are their own brands even though they were both under WWE. They get big enough for people to recognise them instead of the corporation they work for
>>24596619Some of the eop's I know are switching to vshojo
>>24596619nah, they're all moving to phase connect from what i see on twitter
>>24596865Watame's members only content is just watchalongs.
>>24593801> Nijisanji is FAMILY!> but also pic relatednijifans are probably the best mental gymnasts in the VTubing world
>>24596716The ones that run to indies and smaller corpos will probably get bored of them pretty fast and end up coming back anyway.
>>24596619Ew no.If you're going to oshihen because of management decision, you're the worst.
>>24596355It’s the same strategy as the classic family owned amall business just on a larger scale. People support in part because they view it as not just a profit driven machine but as a family that cares about its talents. This means that if for instance they had shitcanned Coco to save the China market their primary audience would have turned like rabid dogs but it also means that when they dumped Rushia for violating her contract most people just shrugged and moved on because Cover and the talents had built that kind of trust.
>>24596865Fubuki has a barebones membership last time I was a member to her which was like 8 months ago but I remember it was something like 8 memberposts/streams over like 5 months. So its no surpise that Fubuki wouldnt give a fuck.
>>24596941but if they're unicorns, don't vshojo girls have bfs?
>>24596865A lot of them are more comfortable with the smaller member streams because it reminds them of their 2-3 view roots more than 5k+ every fucking stream where you can barely read chat
>>24596824>Apple>Tesla>Microsoft (post 2010)>Google>Politicians>ArtistsAnon, brand loyalty and cults of personality thrive on this shit. You went to middle management school instead of marketing, so you're still baby league.
>>24597026theyre unicorns to the anti-idol movement not to the talent themselves
>>24594679NijiEN fucked up by bait-and-switching holofaggots in order to get their initial audience.They would've have had this problem if they had delayed males for THREE FUCKING WAVES.The male wave was obviously going to shatter their existing fanbase after that, and this very thread predicted that they would be laughed at no matter how big or small they were.
>>24596950Why are you making it so obvious you're not a member?
>>24597026cucksOr something, don't ask me how the mind of a unicorn works.
>>24597066>*hadn't
>>24596950Watame has a lot of non-stream members-only content: wallpapers (seems common for JPs), comics, misc audio and video shortst. watamate
>>24597008Som Fubuki's member ASMR is almost sex, if anything she should give a fuck over some :"uh, I can't stand the Gura come to Brazil poster in my member streams
>>24597057>middle management schoolworse i bet he only went to community college and took 2 business related classes
>>24596957>Half anniversary merch wasn't a thing before Luxiemhttps://shop.nijisanji.jp/s/niji/item/list?ima=0927&tag=TAG_65>Edengumi half anniversary merchJesus fucking Christ, EOPs really are fucking retarded sacks of shit.
>>24597008Disappointing. At least with the sheep they're getting at least one stream, wallpaper and comic set per month.
>>24597150i imagine most gifted tourists probably wont be tuning in for her ASMR honestly.
>>24597172They mean in EN you drooling retard.
>>24597172NijiJP never had much of an overseas fanbase so it's not really surprising.Do they even have oldfags in the subreddit/discord? Or did they all get chased out?
i love this thumbnail...showing shuba choco lunahttps://youtu.be/VyxGq3UX7Wc
>>24590310he is indulging in his hobby though?farming (You)s
>>24597244They clearly as a whole retard.
>>24597267>super caht
>>24597267there is no choco you retard
>>24590499> greynames seething
The elephant in the room for all this doomsaying about NijiEN girls' deaths is that their viewership is up more than 35% since the males debuted. You guys are retarded if you think the males have been anything but a boon.
>>24597304hime is a little dumb pls understand
>>24594795Suisei doesn't care about any of this stuff she just treat it like normal member joining.
When people said EN branch might bring a lot of yabs, they didn’t think it was NijiEN. Seriously, HoloEN has existed for almost 2 years but there was not a major problem coming out from them. I’m rather surprised.
>>24597317Luna holding Choco you retard, she is a hoe
>>2459081190% of these retards are clipfagsif they actually watched streams they wouldn't have time to shitpost on reddit all day.
>>24597267shuba should form a new group instead hanging out with these debuffs
>>24597368i see what you did there you fucker.
>>24597324How is their viewership if you remove any of the streams involving the males?
>>24597352When Mori's shenanigans are the worst you have, you know you have it pretty good
>>24597352Mori has a lot of yabs, but they're usually contained within vt so it doesn't hurt the rest of HoloEN
>>24597377>if they actually watched streams they wouldn't have time to shitpostThey're just like us...
>>24597377>not having multiple computers and laptops to simultaneously watch your oshi's stream and at the same time watching a 2view to save them all the while shitpost in 4chan
>>24597435Yeah. Worst one was really just her trying to make fun of an anti and just came off as an autistic idiot for engaging them in the first place.
I thought I saw a Laplus afternoon stream, where did it go?
>>24597324that's due to fujos waiting for males to make a surprise appearance
>>24597324No one’s saying the nijien girls are gonna die retard, people are shitposting the fact that the girls became accessories to the males like in the main branch.
>>24597435Also Mori is a breakaway success in other ways, so in a way it's still tolerated
>>24597324And yet SC and memberships are plummeting each month. Does the increase of gray viewers outweigh the lost of green viewers?
>>24596957All of this shit happening is karma for continuing to unironically use the retarded term "livers". All Niji fans need to do is stop using it and they have golden pastured ahead.
>>24596538Some newfags genuinely deluded themselves into thinking that nijisanji is "the better company" so they are now getting slapped in the face by reality.
>More Luxiem Merchlmao Anykara is gonna milk the fujos dryhttps://twitter.com/shu_yamino/status/1527523403426578433?s=20&t=alC4jFyw2coyaFw4QH7TAw
>>24597424It's easier to go up drastically when some of them were 3 views before the guys.
>>24597566>people are shitposting the fact that the girls became accessories to the males like in the main branch.Wait I never followed nijisanji but youre saying that the JP branch also like this?
>>24597558Seems like multiple channels having issues
V-Carnival goods update:Finally a niji got her merch sold out.
>>24591074old fanbase moved /here/ unironically, since reddit is far more prone to shitting on more "realist" opinions about the girls and their fanbase.Now only the s_yfags and other retards sit there and upvote mindless shit and allow blatant nijishilling as well (which /we/ had to stop).
>>24597708myamya my beloved
>>24597643>And yet SC and memberships are plummeting each month.You have any facts to back that up?
>>24597708How long was it up compared to the other sold outs?
>>24597722they're mostly all SEAniggers now.
>>24597660>default designsyeah, lazy and corny
>>24597759i dunno a day? the merch got announced on noon JST yesterday and the popular holos already sold out their merch in 15 minutes.
>>24597755Do your reps.Been posted several times at the beginning of each month.
>>24597435If their isolated on /vt/ than their not yabs their just a bunch of anons and schizos rustling each other's jimmies because "pink woman bad" or "pink woman interacting with person I don't like".
It’s a nothingburger, this scandal will probably go away since Luxiem can’t be beaten. They have the Mandate of Heaven.
>>24597708her acrylic stands hasn't sold out yet, wonder why this sold out first.
>>24597805
>>24592990Her cute voice is her biggest draw, but she's not been using it on songs AT ALL.The deep voiced JP holo niche is already saturated by Okayu, Towa, Lui and Suisei so she has to do MUCH more to stand out.Also that song's mixing is kinda weird. Lot of parts like the bass don't seem to stand out that much.
>>24596619anon, the only reason as of why they are not watching holos to begin with is just to be contrarian, they have more chances to jump to vshoujo
>>24589441Please write that in ToS before hiring girls
>>24591195oh JP members get leaked on this website all the time though but not just on this board
>>24597908 I could make this mug in a local mall. Anykara is seriously selling this?
>>24597660These goods look better than holokeks goods.
>>24597908POG POG THAT'S SO POGCHAMP SISTERS!!
>>24597897>NothingburgerAnon you just revoked their mandate and damned them to hell
>>24597955Luxiem failed because there is an oversaturarion of superhero movies nowadays
>>24597908Looks like a good shit post material kek
>>24592990EN punches way above JP in song views because those subs aren't dead, just picky and in seventy different timezones. What you're asking is "why does the incredibly popular holo Ina get more views than Chloe, one of the company newbies"
>>24597914How can deep voice be saturated when there are more cute voice singing holos?
>>24597435Yeah what >>24597891 said, if we count it as a yab every time /vt/ throws a fit we'd literally never stop counting
>>24597955Mate they're literally their character art pasted on a bunch of objects.
>>24597722Nah, most migrants would've jumped to discords. If you think reddit's reputation is bad, 4ch's is far worse, so plenty wouldn't even think about trying /here/
>24597897as the days go on, i'm convinced they are part of the jiang zemin's faction's machinations to take down xewho else would invoke the mandate of heaven
>>24597976Now this is a rrat I can get behind
>>24597708Probably just chinman buying dozens of it.
>>24598150based chinman
>>24597435well, the ones that always defend mori are either confirmed cucks or females>my queen can do no wrong>yaaaaas queeeen slaaaay
>>24597915But Vshojo is the biggest V-Tuber group on Twitch. How is that being contrarian?
>>24596869It's a good principle to have, "trust but verify".This is also partially the reason why people were able to move on, because they supported her initially, it just came as a double shock when the talents and company were UNITED behind the decision - implying that she did some very no-no shit.Her constantly menheraing about her holo relations and the contrast of FBK wishing she could've been with them at the fest was probably a line that killed off most of her casual fans.
>>24598211>biggest vtuber groupthats Isegye
>>24598167Did we post the wrong lewds for chinman?
>>24597598Mori’s “yabs” are more to due to her being a stubborn contrarian to her core than anything serious. It took hlgg a long time to realize that Mori wants and needs haters to give herself and her rap career something to fight against.
>>24598238Isegye is Korean so V-Shojo still has the Western market there
>>24598241no but if he does win again i have a folder of chinmans type that i will drop
>>24598211But they are not.
>>24598211not group, individual streamer. vshojo is just ironmouse and the rest are shitters.
>>24597891/vt/ always overestimates how much the fanbase actually gives a shit about yabs
How did old popular IPs like Hello Kitty/Pokemon/Digimon amass a huge popularity back in 00s? I haven't done any research yet, but it feels like what Cover is doing mirrors their business style/sense (going slow) while Anycolor conducts a modern one just like any other entertainment industry where you suck everything out of your talents due to the kind of BoDs they have and strike it when it's hot.
>>24598211Vshojo cucks, you get mogged by the gooks on the regular.
>>24598211see>>24597060im sure its not all of them but there are some
>>24598241I'm disappointed at the lack of loli hornyposting yesterday. Come on, you guys can do better! Do it for Chinaman!
>>24598284Yeah, basically Mori's yabs are fine because it just highlights her being a dumbass, instead of threatening her genmates or Cover as a whole. I also agree with your second point, and it's not just limited to her really. Tons of indie bands and singers come up with a fantastic first album made when they're struggling, but when they rich and doesn't have adversity anymore they no longer have the same drive and inspiration
>>24596355Business Schools only teach you how to extract every bit of profit in the short term.Long term thinking has become alien to most of them for some reason.
>>24598417There was a good discussion about underaged idols though, celebrating Toya's win. That's something.
In other news...
>>24598458The long term thinking is that you suck every last bit of profit for the short term, when it's dry you got parachute payments and move on to do the same thing in another place. If you don't have the resources or capacity to do something like that (aka most people by definition) then you're just fucked
>>24598417>Chinamancmon anon, no need to do the guy dirty
those yabs is same quality, the main event is how the oshi respond
>>24598417We don't celebrate or respect Niji garbage in this thread. Take it somewhere else.
>>24598539This shit's also getting a n anime, right? So are holos the anime voice actors too?
>>24598484That one was really something. Still i don't think even Chinman would stoop to that level
>>24598539I wonder how they sound. Polka will be great considering her voice and FBK has a background. Noel seems retarded, she can't sing or act.
>>24598545Iwanaga did just that, and moved on to vtuber NFTs. It's easy to think Riku would follow suit later.
>>24598614>I wonder how they soundhttps://youtu.be/m_WACC2KysQ
>>24598361That's because /vt/ is an isolated bubble of non-stop rrat peddling and shitposting. I won't be surprised if a lot of the anons here use /vt/ as their sole social media platform to discuss Vtubers so what ends up happening is thinking rrats and "yabs" are way more far reaching than they actually are.
>>24598088Juat like holokek's but better
>>24598365>How did old popular IPs like Hello Kitty/Pokemon/DigimonChildren its the easiest market to enter but its also the most fickle
>>24598662Are Holos A-rated actors?
Well this is as good a time as any I guess.## NIJICOPE LIST - FULLY SOURCED EDITIONNumbered for your convenience and easy referencing.Full list here (includes the removed shitposts, falseflags, schizoposts, non-niji and unsourced copes) : https://rentry.org/nijicopes/raw** FRAMED IN GOLD - Direct from Anycolor and the Livers themselves **> #01 Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural slow and steady growth (>>20457274) (<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31785447)</span>> #02 Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP (>>19597187)> #03 Council didn't do as well Luxiem (>>19597187)** CLASSIC **> #04 Nijisanji has SOUL/Quality (>>>/jp/31465719 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35484805 >>>/jp/36325406)</span>> #05 Nijisanji has better chemistry (>>4962776 <span class="deadlink">>>5591760 >>6383777)</span>> #06 Nijisanji is building a sub-culture/VTubing culture (>>10983732 <span class="deadlink">>>11015414 >>11105922)</span>> #07 Superchats don't matter, Nijisanji has more merch sales [no evidence] (>>>/jp/25750975 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/30117222 >>>/jp/31524177 >>>/jp/34129071 >>>/jp/34630791)</span>> #08 Nijisanji has more creative freedom (>>>/jp/25078156 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35915283 >>>/jp/36404268 >>>/jp/36412049)</span>> #09 Foreign audience bad, local Nips good (>>>/jp/23900990 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31522946 >>>/jp/31923947 >>2689172 >>3342175 >>3343926 >>3555435)</span>> #10 Nijisanji is more popular than Holo in Japan (>>>/jp/27419919 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/29231034 >>>/jp/29352658 >>>/jp/34766571 >>1843302 >>3773035 >>7615028)</span>> #11 Google trends (>>1787083 <span class="deadlink">>>1784574 >>2871777)</span>> #12 This will be the end of Hololive/Holobubble will burst (>>10226380 <span class="deadlink">>>10959272 >>11111437)</span>> #13 YouTube Trends (>>11812348)> #14 Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market (>>12171645)> #15 Cover and hololive fans use bots (>>3225905 <span class="deadlink">>>4283312)</span>> #16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392 <span class="deadlink">>>11875343)</span>> #17 Fortune telling a.k.a "J-just wait, Cover will fuck up something someday" (>>14561348 <span class="deadlink">>>14752560 >>14752914 >>21529067 >>22935912 >>23288417)</span>** NUMBERS **> #18 Ratiocope (>>5536896 <span class="deadlink">>>8648645 >>13972862 >>14457547 >>20388935)</span>> #19 Dead cat bounce (>>10959272 <span class="deadlink">>>13922827 >>14015995 >>14198900)</span>> #20 Quality numbers (>>14001847)> #21 Just combine the peak CCV of all our streams and we win (>>13902618)> #22 Statistics are fake numbers (>>15032001)> #23 Luxiem has a better profit margin than Holofes (>>20201927)> #24 Vox has the FASTEST SUB GROWTH in VTuber History (>>21373805 <span class="deadlink">>>21374368)</span>** MERCH AND SPONSORS **> #25 Holo merch is underproduced to create artificial scarcity (>>>/jp/32410399 <span class="deadlink">>>5902529 >>15489004 >>16388154)</span>> #26 Holomerch sold out means the company regretted the collab (>>12121308)> #27 You buy merch - even if it's shit - to support the liver, not to actually use it (>>23937339)> #28 Sponsorships are retarded (>>12109798)> #29 Associating with Hololive is toxic for Bushiroad's growth because China (>>19752522)** IT DOESN'T COUNT **> #30 Concerts and return streams don't count (>>11676374)> #31 Outfit reveals don't count (>>14891587)> #32 Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count (>>12296330)> #33 Koshien is not an event (>>12127247)> #34 Bookwalker doesn't count (>>19629617)** GENERAL **> #35 Holocope list (>>12296493 <span class="deadlink">>>12457630 >>14120649)</span>> #36 Niji is still #1, they just removed it from their webpage to show humility (>>11747638)> #37 Trailers are the same as advertisements (>>10992803 <span class="deadlink">>>10992938)</span>> #38 Holo EN was a desperate gambit to find an audience (>>11753740)> #39 Hololive just got lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side (>>>/jp/29352541)> #40 *Selen delusion here* (>>8854844 <span class="deadlink">>>12533326 >>12955114 >>13021182 >>13045705 >>13445167 >>14879823)</span>> #41 Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement (>>12085330)> #42 Nijisanji helps their livers by promoting the main channel so that viewers will trickle down to smaller channels (>>12755553 <span class="deadlink">>>12755712)</span>> #43 Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher (>>17835784)> #44 Niji is smart for not wasting money on useless conventions/concerts (>>20202005)And when all else fails...> #45 Blatant Lying> Vox is "higher" than Gura (>>24420454)> Vox got a bigger billboard (>>24424746)> Mika is the Queen of ID (>>24426268)> SEA belongs to Mysta (>>24423909)> Calling a straight graph a "worm" (>>24427484)And after all that...** PLAYING THE VICTIM ** : >>5836502 >>11753740 >>13804174 >>14751831
>>24598417>>24560884>>24560931>>24561223
>>24598545Where are the multi-generation plans?
>>24598539that collab is dead antis wonhttps://twitter.com/nobeta_staff/status/1525722070407008256
>>24598721What multi-gen plans lol
>>24598662>Noel's onee-san voicePretty good ngl as of showing in here, not professional tier but still really good.
>>24598721Pump and dump is the name of the game
>>24598669>JuatFirst off your English reps second of all >Laughs in big Takodachi, Kronii Dakimakura, and Gura cheeks mousepad
>>24598715Holy shit I kneel
>>24598551I'll be honest, that was my fault for phoneposting. Should have double checked before sending it
>>24598715Holy fuck, there was a long time since i saw this one and it hasn't stopped growing
>>24598713No, but they're Holos, so they'll be expensive anyways.
>>24598820>JuatMore like fat fujo's fingers typing that kek.
>>24598715its uncanny how holoen coep and nijicope are basically the same thing
>>24598715Nijisanji is a den of liars and bullies, so it's no wonder that they are supported by shitty people.
>>24598433Wonder if this is why she sabotaged Mori 2.0 herself.She's pretty much well hated on /here/ now so that should give her a lot of "enemies" to fight against and get inspired.
>>24598765Did it really? But yeah, i saw quite a bit of nips being furious and spamming because of vtubers doing the voice acting instead of professional seiyuus
So Ina birthday will be an off collab with Kronii too.
>>24598057Chloe's voice is close to Ayame tier, so she has that going for her, yet she hasn't released even one song taking advantage of it.
>>24598943A small fraction, they'd still play the game anyway.
>>24598948>Reine is having sex with Kiara>Ina is gonna have depression sex with Kronii>Meanwhile chocosen is always getting drunk in order to drown out the sorrow if her being an old hagKISHIDA LET ME IN GODAMIT I CAN SAVE HER
>>24598916I don't think she intentionally sabotages herself, but I think she's realized that she doesn't like all the downsides of fame, so she's begun to do dumb shit because of imposter syndrome and stuff.
>>24598883That's because the HoloEN copelist was literally a rip off of the Niji due to laziness and a lack of originality
>>24598715What if anons acquire pastebin of this and copypaste this in every bait thread?
>>24598916Did you miss your regularly scheduled medication, anon?
>>24599056What Holocope list?
>>24598765So is the merch going to be cancelled? Are they going to revoice all the lines now?
>>24598943they shouldve went for DLC like disgaea
>>24599081basically the same as>>24598715but change niji to holo since niji are lazy
>>24598765they said the saem thing when fubuki voiced in the game last year.
>>24599029Do you have what it takes?
Important for GFE enjoyers>>24598723
>>24599057well there's a raw text sauce included, so feel free to use it when needed kek
>>24589335>selling goods on June 4(JST)Will that be a yab about it?
>>24598883>holoen cope listnigger the thing you posted once or twice isn't some thread enshrined thing like the nijicope list
>>24599192nah, i just dont have time to do my archive reps here but i do swear that ive seen the quality and SC cope from the side of holoen
> Niji isn't a corporation, it's a family (>>12750472)AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>24599129
Did Gura just ends her streaming schedule with a bang? The kusoge's VOD growth is the most insane one after her return. And she's not streaming for the next 3 days.
>>24599113No way, having those 3 actually voice the main villains will make the game sell so much more than it would have otherwise.
>>24599125That looks like regular pr speak for we’ll definitely take it into consideration aka the trash.
>>24599253You've seen two whole things? Wow basically the same
>>24599329>Yeah send you audition if you can play a female characterReddit too a long time to recover from that one
>>24599310Just wait for the VOD anon.
>>24599257hahahahaha nijikek btfo
>>24599181Chinks are already start flaming it
Niji gold>Niji goldNiji gold>Niji goldNiji gold>Niji gold
>>24599432RENT FREE
>>24599426Sorry for my impatience and my numberrot but I sware I feel like Gura's vod growth is pretty slow for the past few streams even with high avg ccv.
>>24599181what is wrong with that?
>>24595160This is retarded, the NijiEN girls had sponsorships, voice packs, con appearances etc, before Luxiem debuted. And most of the the NijiEN girls have inclined in CCV since luxiem debuted, but it isnt some massive massive increase, most were around the same levels to now so this doomposting is retarded. And to act like they were all around the poverty line with their 1-3k viewership... sure. You can go look at superchat stats from before luxiem, the NijiEN girls always had pretty high SC and members for their viewerships. For a lot of them their best months in SC were actually before the males came..>Pomu would still be a wagieAnon, Pomu had already quit when Luxiem debuted.
Youtube auto privating shit now? wtf
>>24599181Good on them to sell merch aimed towards chink on the anniversary of tiananmen square
>>24598943Tbh i can somewhat understand this kind of concern. Shit is the reason why the VA scene in the US can never growth since the Mouse could just hire some A-list actor instead of professional VA. But shit like that guarantee sale so i won't see it stopping any time soon.
>>24599555June 4 = 6/4 = tiananmen square massacre
>>24599587yeah seems like the bot went hirwirelots of streamers complaining about it not jsut vtubers.
>>24599587YouTube...
>>24599587The current rrat is that it might be a byproduct of susan adjusting her bots from deleting a channel to just deleting the stream as a solution for the porn bot problem
nijisanji will always be inferion to holoen in SC, SUBS, VIEWS, MERCH and CCv
>>24599759The fact that Nijisanji is also planning to enter the ATGM market due to the situation in euorpe is outstanding
>>24599736That sounds retarded enough for youtube to do.
>>24599736sounds retarded enought that i belive it.
>>24599786I mean the whole auto bot comment started when youtube integrated google+ into their system back in 13
>>24599785The what? Anti Tank Guided Missile market?
>>24599786Seems like itUgh youtube why can't you just be a video serving platform
>>24599736So all those Holo streams were filled with bots? As expected...Meanwhile 0, zero, nada, none of NijiEN streams has been deleted / privated so far. Makes you think, eh?
>>24599534VOD anon talked about it a few days ago>>24549524
>>24599786>>24599838The new meta is apparently spamming crypto and porn links in the comments and the replies which somehow triggers susans bots
>>24599972It might be due to the fact that AP rounds are ineffective and thats why Fulgur is changing his strat
>>24599972>Meanwhile 0, zero, nada, none of NijiEN streams has been deleted / privated so far.rumao
>>24599972except there are already a bunch of Niji vods privated bro...
>>24599972Do nijiniggers have a humiliation fetish or is it just this guy?
>>24599707I'm surprised Gura's VOD is still up. You'd think the bots would target her first
>>24600129QUICKCOMPARE THE METADATA TAGS OF GURA TO EVERYONE ELSE
>>24600129the french are all chumbuds.
I fucking told you niggas it wasnt the porn comment showing up on the screenThats how they took down those earth view livestreams too
>>24599972> Makes you think, eh?> Does not think
make me wonder why niji fan still coping while the evidence is crystal clear, who incompetent nijisanji management
>>24599972Mika wanted to do another offcollab in Hawaii
>>24600365that would have been 100% better than fucking bongland
>>24599972You need to wait for a bit before you start talking shit otherwise your going to set yourself up for failure.
How is ina's cover doing?