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One pill a day keeps the schizo away edition

Previous thread: >>2424632

>> No.2508498
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2508498

I love the chicken

>> No.2508653

>>2508421
>>2508519
>every samefag reply is highlighted
But how would the anonymous and staff-unaffiliated poster who made this image know exactly which replies were samefagging? Unless...

>> No.2508703

>>2508653
... Mod banned themselves as a false-flag in order to make Kiara anti's look bad?

>> No.2508706
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>>2508421
jesas
>>2508653
I think it's because after getting banned all the replies appear as (Dead)

>> No.2508710

>>2508421
I used to dislike her but she made me genuinely laugh a little too often. I wonder if there are many haters that got converted while ironically watching her.

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>>2508653

>> No.2508793

>>2508710
that's what happens to most haters in most situations(not only online personalities), this is why you should never hate anything

>> No.2508846

>>2508793
>this is why you should never hate anything
Hating things is fine, it's following and watching content you hate just to find more material to hatepost about it that's deranged. Sane people who hate things just ignore them.

>> No.2508854

>>2508421
Holy shit. That's bug level of schizo lmao

>> No.2508866

>>2508793
They do say the opposite of love isn’t hate, t’s indifference. I don’t hate any Nijisanji members for example, I just don’t two shits about them. Feels pretty good.

>> No.2508903

>>2508866
Why waist any time posting about how much you hate something? The only time I can see that it's fine to do so is when you loved something but grew to dislike it for whatever factors. If you never liked it to begin with, ignore it.

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>>2508421
>mfw reading the replies
It wasn't even fucking subtle, he types the same way in every reply. This motherfucker is genuinely schizophrenic.

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>> No.2509204
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>>2508986
That's not even schizophrenia anymore, it's straight up dementia at this point.

>> No.2509288

>>2509204
What if anon actually has dementia and is genuinely unaware that he's replying to himself?

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>>2508735
Jesas

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>>2509288
Maybe he can reincarnate into a functioning human being

>> No.2509408

>>2509126
i can hear this webm

>> No.2509494

>>2508421
>its another KFP larping as anti episode

>> No.2509551

>>2509204
Not only that, judging by the filename, it was the same guy that posted the cat gore.

>> No.2509567
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2509567

Next stream is Nier: Automata in 14 hours

>> No.2509605

>>2509567
Wait I messed up, *20 hours actually

>> No.2509995

>>2509567
Do you guys think she is gonna get swept up by the pace of the game and finish it?

>> No.2510105

>>2509126
How quickly the tide turns.

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>>2508421
absolutely obsessed holy shit. this makes me wish public bans happened more often to prove a point.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2arDGQsIfo

>> No.2510199

>>2501590

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>>2508421

That's beyond the point of living rent free in your head, you're paying the living expenses of someone you despise, stop it, it's embarrassing

I hate chikim, but i simply ignore her, for the sake of what's left of your mental health do the same, i know you are reading this

>> No.2510266

>>2509995
It's definitely doable, but based on her pace so far, I would guess there's two streams left.

>> No.2510316

>>2509995
>>2509567
there was some talk about moving it by an hour for the EN tabletop, something about character creation and them not streaming it
so I'm not sure how much she can she change gears and even if the schedule is still correct


anyone remember the details?

>> No.2510475
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2510475

I want to hug Kiara and then hold her hand

>> No.2511180

>>2509567
Hm, when did she say she was planning to pick up Yakuza again, next week?

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>>2508735
Best ban since the twittershit from February

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>>2508421
>>2508735
This my first time saw that in vt in hlgg, and that second picture, omg wow.

I could miss others but this has happened before especially on jp before vt right?

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>>2510316
checked the vod, she only said it was gonna be Wednesday but nothing about moving the stream back
>>2510475
me too!

>> No.2511399

>>2509567
How is she planning to play among us with viewers? If she becomes imposter she and her partner will get ejected immediately.

>> No.2511459

>>2511180
She said she'd do it after finishing Ryza so most likely next week, yeah.
>>2511399
Trust system basically. She tells anyone who makes it in the lobby to mute or close her stream and just hope they do it.

>> No.2511534

>>2510177
Nice.

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2511768

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1382007099035676679
Bless Takotori

>> No.2511769

>>2510177
Really good

>> No.2511782

>>2508421
Damn what fun did I miss today

>> No.2511872

>>2511768
>monster hunter grind everyday
Yes. No escape.

>> No.2511900

>>2509288
The infamous Alzheimers anti

>> No.2511933

>>2508421
the definition of
>all me btw
fucking basado

>> No.2511955

>>2509567
>ryza finale before holotalk
ngmi

>> No.2512123

>>2510177
This dude is brilliant.

>> No.2512305

>>2510177
this dude rocks

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>>2508735
i feel kind of bad for him

>> No.2512758 [DELETED] 

>>2512580
>him
Pretty sure it's women. She has been shitposting on /hlgg/ for a while now. Posting cat torture and CP and shit. Total menhera

>> No.2512772

>>2508421
FUCKING KEK

>> No.2512892

>>2508735
pathetic

>> No.2512961

>>2508793
>this is why you should never hate anything
This sounds dangerously jewish

>> No.2513017

>>2512758
Jealousy of her success kek
Sounds like a cow or /cgl/

>> No.2513120

>>2509288
>20 years from now he'd still be replying to himself about Kiara

>> No.2513146

>>2512580
I don't, he makes the zhangs seem sane

>> No.2513153

>>2508793
Actual good advice. You don't get anything but bad feelings out of hating something. At best you get a fleeting high from talking to other people who hate it before you go back to normal.

Life's easier when you like things. If you don't like it, be happy for people who do and move on.

>> No.2513202

>>2508735
Anyone have that clip of Korone going "what the fuck"

>> No.2513226

>>2513153
Actually a good commnt.

>> No.2513246
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>>2508653
>>2508735
Checking the dead replies, holy shit this guy
archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/2500332/#2501590

>> No.2513400 [DELETED] 

>>2513246
HOLY SAMEFAG
Please man can someone make a compilation out of this? With all the replies?

>> No.2513535

>>2510105
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRRCXchyM5Y

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>>2508421
>It's real
My sides.

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>>2508421
Kiarafags, what did the chicken do that started this retarded demonization of her? I'm not the biggest fan of her but I see all this hate that sounds so wild at face value. she a cute

>> No.2514211

>>2514138
She has a very outgoing personality so a lot of people either like her or hate her. She's not someone who stays low profile at all, not in her public persona at least, because that's the Kiara character she built.

>> No.2514264

>>2514138
Combination of a polarizing voice some people find annoying and a unique German kind of autism that results in a lot of her comments coming off as weird, rude, or even spiteful to those who don't get it. The people who find her voice annoying to begin with latch onto these to convince themselves she's a genuinely horrible person, moving from mere annoyance to hatred, and a few spiral fully into derangement like >>2513246.

>> No.2514279

>>2508421
>>2508735
Why are takodachis like this?

>> No.2514289

>>2511768
this reminds me of the scene in Odd Taxi where the kid is talking about how to manufacture popular tweets

>> No.2514291

>>2514211
This, she's an extrovert in a gen/company of introverts. I think she's also very feminine in a very "normie" way that a lot of hikki/incel/antisocial weebs find intimidating/repulsive. She exudes (wholesome) weeaboo gigastacy energy

>> No.2514330

>>2514264
>German kind of autism
lmao could you elaborate more on what German autism is? What makes it distinct?

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>>2513400
this takes the cake imo
how do you convince yourself this sounds even remotely believable

>> No.2514467

>>2514330
Have you ever met a German anon?

>> No.2514499 [DELETED] 

>>2514138
Basically this >>2514211
She wears her heart openly for everyone to see. Which makes it easy to stab her.

>>2514330
NTA but a recent example is the minecraft stream. Someone asked for help about how to entertain an audience. Kiara said "oh tell them a story, they swallow up anything you say".
She didn't mean it the way it sounds. It's just how krauts speak. They don't talk around bushes, they say everything literally, which comes off as rude for foreigners.
What she meant was " you should tell them a life story, most people like to hear that and are entertained by that".
Instead it comes off as "just lie and tell them whatever, they are retarded enough to believe everything"

t.kraut with krautism

>> No.2514500

>>2514330
germans have a kind of frankness that in most other countries is interpreted as complete lack of social awarness and tact

>> No.2514535

>>2514441
The writing style reminds me of lolcow for some reasons.
There is one lolcow menhera back in jp, probably the same person who keep posting cat gores.

>> No.2514570

>>2514535
its the same guy based on file naming style

>> No.2514571 [DELETED] 

>>2514535
>>2512758

>> No.2514581

>>2514535
She has a group of dedicated antis on lolcow going back years and years before hololive. I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of them was a clinical lunatic.

>> No.2514637

>>2514499
>>2514500
I still find it funny whenever Kiara translates a word or phrase often said in German and it's almost always something crass-sounding

>> No.2514701

>>2514500
Germans so frank even their sausage is frank. That said, I wonder how the weebs are in that country

>> No.2514728

>>2514701
Germans who other Germans consider to be autistic are very special people indeed.

>> No.2514750 [DELETED] 

>>2514728
The biggest anime convetions in europe are in Germany. But they are hiding it in public. You will never see someone talking about anime.
Except back in the day when pokemon and dragon ball was a thing.

>> No.2514784

>>2508421
I'm usually here for crazy/memorable shit like this...damn. Wtf is wrong with Ame fans?

>> No.2514805

>>2514637
it's always amusing when you understand what she actually wants to say in german or japanese and how out of place those literal translations must seem.

>> No.2514851

>>2514750
I thought Japan Expo in France & the 2 Manga cons in Madrid were the biggest, surely?

>> No.2514944 [DELETED] 

>>2514851
Possible. Maybe i'm confusing this with cosplay shit which includes gamescom etc. Google will probably help you if your'e really interested

>> No.2514957

>>2514805
I imagine some of them might even get confused by sarcastic dry humor shows like the ones popular in England.

>> No.2514983

>>2514581
>at least one of them
Well the samefag who got banned in OP is already confirmed, so probably at least two.

>> No.2514995

>>2514851
Japan Expo is the biggest for sure, over 200k IIRC.
Germany doesn't have the largest anime expos unless you aggregate the attandance of all of them, because it has more strongly attended ones than other european countries due to the population structure.

>> No.2515029

>>2508735
I wish I had been in that thread, that's some high level of pathetic right there.

>> No.2515102

>>2514138
she is very transparently insecure and attention seeking which upsets people particularly femcels, but normal people just sympathize or feel bad for her

>> No.2515129

Why are my posts nuked? That Gura pic was censored wtf meidos

>> No.2515375

>>2514138
her /cgl/ antis just followed her
all drama pre-vtubing era

>> No.2516419

>>2514138
Schizos from her past that don't want to let go, before she was just l*l*o*/k*w*f*r*s material, never had good luck with her dreams and her life wasn't stable, it doesn't help most of her failures and shortcomings are up on the internet, which is perfect for them. Anyway, usually people like her don't end up as successful, they fade into obscurity after her antis get bored or disappear from social media, so you can probably guess how mad some of them must be after getting lucky with hololive.

>> No.2516505

>>2515375
Women never stop holding grudges. Men either do something and get over it, or wallow/act out in private. If there's one thing I've gained through dating and having female friends, fuck you, they are real it's that a lot of women are petty as fuck and nasty as fuck, especially behind closed doors.

>> No.2516627

>>2513153
I didn't come to this line of thinking until my mid 20's(some were around 26) and these last few years have been genuinely better for me I feel.

>> No.2516710

>>2513153
One of the best life lessons I ever learned was that cynicism is a bad thing.

>> No.2516736

>>2511188
She.... she got better.

>> No.2516875

>>2513153
To be united by hatred is a… fragile alliance at best.

>> No.2516953

>>2516505
>Men either do something and get over it, or wallow/act out in private.
You are aware that the people behind Kiara's old grudges have all been men right?

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>>2514957
Its a running joke for centuries that Germans have no sense of humor, solely due to how poorly their language and culture understands parody and sarcasm

>> No.2517249

>>2516875
Yeah, I was an anti but that shit just made me unhappy and was a waste of time anyway so I’ll just try to ignore the Vtubers I dislike or maybe they will even grow on me with some time

>> No.2517354

I think I understand a little bit why Kiara has such a loyal fans back from jp. They survived this shit >>2517015
Also this is my own post after did some archives dives

>> No.2517401

>>2517151
sarcasm in particular doesn't translate well to German, and especially not German accents. Poor krauts

>> No.2517428 [DELETED] 

So I guess the reason Kiara has so much of an anti problem is because of sperg called Jrcach

>> No.2517723

>>2514138
One thing is that she's very open about her feelings, which I think some people find whiny about her. Especially since she's so successful but still often seems dissatisfied with her growth and expresses that.

>> No.2517855

>>2513146
I mean the zhangs spamming are just bots. There's no real thought or logic behind them, they just pick a target, run cocobegone.py, and then go do something else. This is an actual human. There is a real person writing these long comments, and then actively responding to himself dozens of times to make his opinion seem more popular than it actually is. He is legitimately fucked in the head.

>> No.2517869

>>2509126
This kind of stuff is why I love her.

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>>2517723
AAAHHHH ITS AN ACT SHES PLAYING A CHARACTER AND TURNING UP SPECIFIC ASPECTS OF SAID CHARACTER TO GET THE DESIRED RESPONSE FROM HER AUDIENCE AAAAA

>> No.2517916

>>2514138
Nothing, they just hate her personality.

>> No.2517982

>>2514701
>That said, I wonder how the weebs are in that country
I pretend to be a normie.

>> No.2518241

>>2514330
Speaking of German autism, her "I'm going to shit my pants" bit is a good example of the disconnect between German culture and English culture. Only a kraut would find that funny, all the other holos visibly and audibly cringed because they didn't get it. Germans are often stereotyped as lacking humor for this reason.

>> No.2518264

>>2517855
Not to turn this into a which anti is worse contest, but the Coco antis are autistic to the point of spending thousands buying google accounts and going on harassment campaigns against her roommate and seven months of disinformation campaigns and harassment against new Hololive fans in china.

If there's one funny thing to take from this, it's that they are terrified of one of the other Coco antis who is actually mentally unhinged and is known for attempting to rape a train conductor on a moving train.

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>>2508421
Mentally ill KFPs at it again.

>> No.2518487

>>2518296
It's all Kiara. She forgets to take her meds quite often.

>> No.2518588

>>2518296
lol dyrbi

>> No.2518645

>>2518264
It's literally the CCP stealing identities and credit card info

>> No.2518648

So KFPs were the real schizos all along? Ironic...

>> No.2518732

>>2511188
post no.?

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>>2518648
Always have been.

>> No.2518844

>>2510177
Kiara approbs

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1382078280216498177

>> No.2518851

>>2514750
>But they are hiding it in public. You will never see someone talking about anime.
Absolutely true, I've literally never seen a weeb IRL, not even on the subway

>> No.2518875

>>2518645
If it was, they'd just target Hololive as a show of power. The fact that Coco's fandom mods have successfully scrubbed the spam off her videos out of sheer spite proves it's just a couple of autist hobbyists trying to gain power through bot mob cancel culture and not a huge effort by an official organization

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>>2514138
Contrary to the narratives, most of her antis aren't /cgl/ women but SEAniggers and to a lesser extent generic /hlg/ yellow fever self-hating cucks.

You can even see how this is the case for the OP image as the samefagging schizo calls her a "spoiled rich girl" over and over again (in broken English of course) because these goblins are absolutely seethe about western wealth.

>> No.2518993

anyone have the timestamp of Kiara talking about her dad blackmailing her?

>> No.2519084

>>2518648
your delusion has officially reached critical levels.

>> No.2519097 [DELETED] 

>>2518933
Is it a repressed hate thing because they know that they're gonna get death squad'd if they speak about their very own "spoiled rich girl"?

>> No.2519127

>>2518933
That's fucking pathetic.

>> No.2519233

>>2514138
Hold your nose, go to /cgl/ and look in any of the threads there. Notice how it's full of legbeards with no self-awareness who are so deranged that they make /r9k/ look well-adjusted by comparison? They were Kiara's original antis because they despised her roommate, with them later being joined by SEAschizos and internet hate machine types who smelled blood.

>> No.2519305

>>2518933
Reine should become president so she can go Jagal on these people.

>> No.2519334

>>2518933
Dude at least censor the pic you moron

>> No.2519408

>>2511188
Personally I think 2hufags begging for /vt/ to be a containment board getting banned when Hiroyuki showed up is funnier

>> No.2519447

>>2519408
kek, pics?

>> No.2519477

Sheesh. I always wondered why she was hated so much when there really isn't anything wrong with her. Seeing how much just one person spurged out against it makes some sense. I can understand not liking her and ignoring her stuff but the level of hate was absurd. Zhang levels of shit.

>> No.2519512

>>2519447
I didn't save any sadly, it was like the 3rd day after /vt/'s creation
A bunch /jp/ anons kept spamming the thread asking hiro to force vtubers off /jp/, not only did they get ignored but they got banned too lmao

>> No.2519528

>>2519477
this person came back today to show their ban and vowed to keep coming back. they actually got rangebanned. its so fucking sad.

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2519567

now if only they could ban that guy who makes false flag kiara threads and replies to himself about how much he wants to beat her up

>> No.2519705

>>2519477
Alot of the initial hate came from the notorious crab-buckets that are /cgl/ and lolcow. Jealous costhots can't stand to see one of their number get some measure of success.

>> No.2519706

>>2519567
Did they ban the guy who wanted a personal army to 1M false sub-unsub Kiara yesterday?

>> No.2519719

>>2514138
Antis are schizos and some KFPfags can’t stop being baited god I love this chicken but sometimes I feel like the only sane one

>> No.2519731

>>2508421
Copium, not the first time Mods act schizoid about kiara

>kfps do believe all kiara hate posts can be tracked to 3 nigs from indonesia

>> No.2519764

>>2518241
As a german I love reading this stuff. People, that probably never met a german in their life, talking about german culture. I can assure you germans reacted exactly like you english people did to Kiara in the UNO collab. We might use the word "Scheiße" often in german, but we do so to express anger and not to actually talk about excrements. If you think talking about literal shit is considered funny in germany and would not get people to either cringe, be disgusted or at the very least raise an eyebrow, I cant help you. The only thing that might be different... we germans arent so anal about cringy stuff. I cant believe that this is still a topic being discussed. Yes it was cringy, but thats about it.

>> No.2519862

>>2519512
I don't know why 2hufags always bitched so much about vtuber threads. For most of their existence on the board the generals were completely self-contained, like most of the generals in /jp/. It's not like /jp/ gets any traffic anyway. But whatever. I'd rather get a board and not have to deal with collateral bullshit from a backwater board. /vt/ has been going a lot better than people were expecting back in the day.

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>>2519764
You can't trick me, brown nose.

>> No.2519980 [DELETED] 

>>2518933
Ah, the pepeloni...
>>/vt/thread/1497433#p1532176

>> No.2519997

>>2514291
>she's an extrovert in a gen/company of introverts. I think she's also very feminine in a very "normie" way that a lot of hikki/incel/antisocial weebs find intimidating/repulsive. She exudes (wholesome) weeaboo gigastacy energy
>>2515102
>she is very transparently insecure and attention seeking which upsets people particularly femcels, but normal people just sympathize or feel bad for her
So which is it.

>> No.2520018

>>2519924
Wenn du meinst...

>> No.2520021 [DELETED] 

>>2519980
KFPs are Kiara antis isn't even a joke at this point.

>> No.2520070 [DELETED] 

>>2520021
>>2519084

>> No.2520098

>>2519997
Both. Introverts aren't normal people. Kiara is moody.

>> No.2520511

>>2519997
If the problem was extroversion schizos would hate Ollie and Subaru equally as much

>> No.2520529

>>2519997
You’ve never met a woman that’s both exuberant and loud while being deeply insecure at her core?

>> No.2520570

>>2520529
Sure, but that means they aren't a "Stacy".

>> No.2520628

>>2519997
Both but leans way more into the latter which makes her an easy target for vicious menheras.

>> No.2520708

>>2520511
Did you miss the past few weeks where schizos lost their minds over Ollie interacting with some non-holo streamer?

>> No.2520875

>Be me.
>Be based shitposter and semi-professional schitzo.
>Post Kiara doxx
>Got em again!
>Oh shit, banned.
>Well, I know how to fix this!
>Go to modem.
>Unplug.
>Wait a few minutes.
>Plug back in.
>Post more the same picture with the same text.
>Haha, I'm on a roll today!
>Banned again.
>Go to modem.
>Unplug.
>Mom calls down stairs.
>"Anon, why does the internet keep going out? I'm just trying to post on Facebook to my friends about BLM. What are you doing?"
"N-Nothing mom, just having issues connecting to my game."
>"You're not on that fortune site that we talked about again, are you? You know the psychiatrist told you that you had to stay away from that website."
>Start hearing chickun laughs in my head.
"N-no mom, just having issues connecting to my game."
>Hear Kiara's voice again.
>"I'm gonna shit those pants real good hahahhaha!"
>Mom's voice interrupts chickens screeching.
>"Ok honey. Don't forget to come up and take your meds in an hour. I made your favorite for lunch too! Chicken tenders and mac and cheese."
>Replug in modem.
>Turn around to tell my mom that internet should be back up.
>Kiara is standing there, looking at me smugly.
>"You're my little pogchamp"
"FUCK YOU, I HATE YOU. I'M NOT YOUR POGCHAMP!"
>Image disappears.
>Mom calls down stairs confused.
>"W-What did you call me? Are you on down their anon?"
>Hear her coming down steps, scramble to computer to close 4chan.
>She seems me, in a panic closing a window on my browser.
>"Honey, you really should wait until your alone to watch those kinds of videos."
>Decide if it's worth arguing, but remember that if she finds out I'm on 4chan, house internet's getting taken Way.
"Y-Yeah mom"
>She makes her way back to the stairs.
>"I'll talk to you in an hour when you're up for lunch"
"Ok, thanks ma"

>> No.2520879
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Later nerds

>> No.2520926
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>>2520879
nice

>> No.2520999
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2520999

>come home
>no Kiara
At this rate, I'd seriously consider purchasing a Kiara plush if one was announced.

>>2510177
I fkn love this guy's videos and seeing one of Kiara made my morning.

>> No.2521062

>>2520999
Kiara demands you buy the Kotori plushie when it comes out.

>> No.2521075

>>2512961
do you hate the jews?

>> No.2521188

>>2508421

47 times.

Made me briefly wish that the world would decide to ban SEA from the rest of the Internet.

>> No.2521229

>>2520570
Fair enough, but it’s also possible to seem like a Stacy at times without truly being one.

>> No.2521263

>>2521062
I have heard the Kotori plushie comes with Kiaras scent still lingering on its beak.

>> No.2521342

>>2520708
>interacting with some non-holo
Any Holo would get the same reaction, even the introverts.

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>>2520879

>> No.2521597
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>>2518487
Kiara...

>> No.2521763

>>2520529
>You’ve never met a woman

you've written your own answer, mate

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2521830

>>2521263
My wallet seems to be opening by itself...

>> No.2521899

>>2521263
Will a phoenix-human hybrid be created if I touch Kotori's beak to my penis

>> No.2523084
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2523084

chicken chats so far talking about her shit sleep and side quests
There's a couple of messages I lost wishing an aka paypig swift recovery because he was feeling sick

>> No.2523108

>>2508735

As Flare would say: JESAS

>> No.2523172

>>2523084
>that factory quest

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>>2521263
Scent? From... what part of her body?

>> No.2523793

>>2519764
Prussian hands typed this post.

>> No.2524350

>>2523793
Where I come from that is a fucking insult. I'm not a sau preißn.

>> No.2524548

>>2508421
Kind of ruins the point of an anonymous image board when someone can see all the posts you've made.

>> No.2524629

>>2508421
>>2508735
But...why?

>> No.2524681

>>2524548
The whole thread already could because they were typing like a retard.

>> No.2524731

>>2524681
>they
are you using the preferred pronoun of that single person? Would explain why that person is so deranged

>> No.2524789

>>2524731
I was just writing a sentence.

>> No.2524842

>>2508793
It was actually the opposite for me. Kiara was the first EN I liked, but then she had a minecraft collab with Subaru and started crying and shit because she didn’t get to collab with Pekora. The level of inability to read the room fucking pissed me off so I unsubscribed.

>> No.2524910

>>2524842
lil schizo..

>> No.2524923

>>2514330
She told Aki to her face that she disliked ASMR, not to offend her, but because is true.

She is not trying to be mean, she just can't help to say what's on her mind all the time.

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>>2520879
Another employee of the month goes into the deep fry. Cook well.

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>>2520879
I just want her to know I exist.

>> No.2525164

>>2520879
Kiara was reading a bunch of comments on Akirose Holotalk and heart-ing comments today. Mostly ones that are saying they liked how deep she went with her questions. I think she's preparing for the Suisei Holotalk and looking for some inspiration by surveying the feedback to her last one. Maybe this means she's gonna "go deep" with Suisei and try to claw out some more heartfelt emotional stuff like she did with Aki? Not sure how that will go over since Suisei is pretty emotionally opaque compared to Aki.

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>>2516710

>> No.2525427

>>2520879
jealous, but happy for you nonetheless

>> No.2525461

>>2520708
They were pretty incel-y against ollie

>> No.2525494
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>>2520879
tips on getting chicken likes on youtube and twitter???
I want her to care about me.......

>> No.2525682

>>2525494
Compliment her or something. It works every time

>> No.2525857
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>>2525358
This poor Giles Corey wannabe couldn't be direct to save the life he wishes to give to others. Ironic. I pray he won't end an accelerationist or something similarly stupid.

>> No.2525927

>>2525494
For twitter, just reply something nice quickly to her tweets as soon as she posts them. Something like thanking her for the stream or a part you enjoyed.
Youtube likes are less common but making a funny comment works for me.

>> No.2527921

>>2525461
vtubers in general are an incel/ femcel and faggot magnet I don't know what else do you expect anon

>> No.2528239

>>2516419
Fuck Kiwifarms. They put on a moralfag act but are just sociopathic vultures trying desperately to find a new Chris Chan to fuck with.

>>2514138
Personally though, I don't really like her because the "lol I'm so gay I'm a raging lesbian" act gets old really fast. I'm honestly glad she got cucked by Petra during her Three Houses playthrough, that was really funny.

>> No.2528438

>>2508421
>about 30 times
jej

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>>2512961
You don't need to hate something to act on it if it's being a nuisance. I don't hate bugs but I gas them all the same if they start to annoy me.
Hate is reserved for people that have actually wronged me or those I care about.
I mean you can hold grudges but there is always a way to be rational about it

>> No.2530624

>>2518993
That sounds pretty fucked up, what stream are we talking?

>> No.2530802

>>2528239
The main goal was always to observe and not interact, but there's bo real way to police people once they have any information gathered. It's a fun idea in concept, but there's always people who cross the line, whether they're born from within the forum postings or stumble on it while looking for info to use to do whatever dumb shit it is they want to.

>> No.2530807

>>2530624
it was some ryza stream, she mentioned it was an "acquaintance" who came back into her life though. Never specified it was her father

>> No.2531814

It's not her father.

>> No.2532038

>>2531814
Her moms bf probably, anybody got a link?

>> No.2532861

>>2519731
True there is also a burger /pol/nigger, a fin that outed himself near debut and more recently that serb that cried because Kiara didn't let him watch gura cry on stream, oh and that landwhale that posted her lard around the time of the first holotalk.
Am I missing someone? there may be more but those are the few non-seaniggers i remember.

>> No.2532940

>>2521899
maybe if you rub it until catches flames.

>> No.2533090

>>2532038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUKikrKsWq8

>> No.2533126

>>2514291
do your reps anon

>> No.2533807

>>2508421
that man was absolutely viciously lethally based

>> No.2533984

>>2517151
>>2517401
I always read these kind of things and am just confused as a German.
There is plenty of sarcasm and jokes in my daily conversations with family/friends.

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>>2533090
Ok, why is no one talking about this.? That was kinda bizarre

>> No.2534014

>>2519764
Scheiße is pretty much the Fuck of German

>> No.2534064

>>2510177
Holy shit this art is awesome. What even is the connection between fear and loathing and Kiara though

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>>2534064
no connection, the fanart just reminded me of fear and loathing

>> No.2534440

>>2534064
I fear and loathe Kiara.

>> No.2534589

>>2534440
Kusotoriphobia

>> No.2536567

>>2525358
I'm not sure I understand this. Granted, in connection with >>2516710 it makes some kind of sense, but is the guy talking about how mindlessly contrarian 4chan (and the internet at large) has become?

Also, if that is indeed the case, I agree - to some degree, contrarianism has ruined the internet, just like some say irony ruined it. Just take a look at, say, a meme compilation or a subreddit reading: Half the posts/replies are just *witty, but unnecessary and overblown comeback* or *lol no you* or *heehee i'm smart/woke, watch me talk shit*. Why is that? And is there a way to fix that? Should it be fixed?

>> No.2536668

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62KGmbGXLQ4
Nier stream in 55 minutes

>> No.2536688

>>2508421
I genuinely love Kiara I really don't get the hate the way you guys talk about her you'd think she's Artemis or some shit

>> No.2537283

>>2534006
It was probably one of her cats.
https://youtu.be/kkwiQmGWK4c

>> No.2537453

Still waiting for the day when Kiara discovers that 'foof' means cunny in a certain dutch dialect.

>> No.2537505

>>2536567
For me the internet was ruined when normalfags got mass acces to it. I miss the days when it was mostly just a bunch of nerds being amazed that the internet was a thing and spent large portions of time troutslapping eachother on mIRC. (Also the triviabots)

>> No.2537610

>>2517151
>>2517401
germans use more sarcasm not less which is why autists on this board have a meltdown every week over how "rude" the chicken is

>> No.2537644

I dont like that controller thing....
the fingers moving all the time is unsettling

>> No.2537678

>>2537505
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

stuff was still fine for years after that until somebody figured out how make money with the net, not ON it as a product platform but FROM it as in ads and services

>> No.2537952

>>2537453
Still waiting for the day that you get arrested and put in jail for life

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>>2533984
>>2537610
That's more what I meant, not that it's not used, more that it doesn't seem to "translate" well - i.e. people that have never interacted with a german speaker don't understand it as sarcasm, which confuses the hell out of me

>> No.2538042

>>2537453
Still waiting for the day when Poseiden punishes the swamp germans for their hubris

>> No.2538442

>>2538042
>swamp germans
Hehe, you're not wrong. Flanders is derived from the germanic word "Flauma" which roughly translates to 'Flooded'. Flanders = flooded lands. Swamp Germans is a valid term.

>> No.2538977

>>2537644
Holy shit, I just noticed this because I usually only look at her face and her busy outfit is background noise to me.

>> No.2539007

>deleted Pascal's memories
employees, I don't think I can go on...

>> No.2539026

>>2539007
She just didn't want him to remember the painful memories...

>> No.2539063

>>2539026
she reseted him to factory default goddammit

>> No.2539139

>>2539007
Yeah, she should've killed him.

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>kiaras big and manly hands will never hold you

>> No.2539187

>>2525494
I've gotten a few likes on Youtube from her. She likes feedback on her work, not just general compliments and especially not condescending shit like "I'm always going to support you" etc. Compliment her in a way that praises the work she does rather than just being generic.

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>>2539153
ahhhhhhhhh

>> No.2539296

>>2508421
Today you fall in love with the bird.

>> No.2539302

>>2539282
oh i think i missed her cooking one. is it members only? I actually wanna watch that.

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>>2539282
Reawakening my gloves fetish I see

>> No.2539340

>>2539302
chocolate making for valentines
public and very dangerous for the heart

>> No.2539351

>>2539302
nah it's public
https://youtu.be/9EM7IHwzSTw

>> No.2539371

>>2539302
You can imaging being held by Kiara's big strong hands right here friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EM7IHwzSTw

>> No.2539381

Standalone server for Minecraft confirmed? Nice.

>> No.2539384

>>2539282
cute exited bird with gloves

>> No.2539814

>>2518241
>"I'm going to shit my pants"
For crying out loud. She meant to say "I'm going to shake those can real good" but she missed her mark because she was nervous. Sweet Christmas you guys will never let this go huh?

>> No.2539957

I'm not seeing as many issues with ITT as chat made it out to be, but now I'm worried.

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How does Gura have a reputation as the dumb one when this Kiara is part of EN

>> No.2540257

>>2540197
One two five

>> No.2540272

Cake mode unleashed
You could say that is her true form

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>>2540272
Cake mode?

>> No.2540364

I've had Kiara in the BG because I don't care much for Nier's story but jesas she has been yelling so much

>> No.2540374

>>2540364
She's a passionate gamer

>> No.2540408

>>2540374
Will she say the gamer word if she get's frustrated?

>> No.2540441

>>2540364
probably getting stressed the hacking parts will gate her out of finishing it, or extend it for a long time

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>>it's another "mandatory hacking section"
I'm scared for all the innocent save files at the end of "ending E "

>> No.2540501

>>2540408
you are thinking of Ame or Mori

>> No.2540681

She had to stop and think about that one

>> No.2540856

>>2540476
Just imagine they're all KFP employees, happy to die for their boss.

Also, fuck you Yoko Taro, this shit is too heavy.

>> No.2540887

>>2540476
>Kiara
>bothering to do ending E
Anon I...

>> No.2540955

>>2540887
Playing a 30 hour game just to skip out on the 10 minute epilogue would be outrageously brainlet

>> No.2540975

>>2538442
kek, the more you know!

>> No.2541008

>>2540887
chat's gonna nag her to do it don't worry

>> No.2541061

>>2540955
>would be outrageously brainlet
I have very low expectations for Kiara's mental capacity
>>2541008
This is the only way I see it happening

>> No.2541068

>>2540476
Allright, now I'm wondering if they could get permission for to play Detroit: Become human.

>> No.2541135

>>2541068
Imagine if Kiara constantly kills Connor (that's the android, right?) and the other guy (the "real" human, don't know his name) reacts to him coming back over and over again.
t. never played but would like to see it

>> No.2541136

>>2541068
I think some of them have already played that, really want to say Pekora did for sure

>> No.2541172

>>2541135
It's a pretty cool storydriven game. With Kiara's empathy towards characters it could mean some really good content.

>> No.2541262

>>2541172
That sounds good. The only thing I saw was the occasional spoiler, the porn and a compilation of Connor dying over and over again.

>> No.2541272

>>2541136
Had to doublecheck. But yeah, I've found clips from Pekora, Subaru and Matsuri playing it. But it from before the apocalypse, so I don't know if they still have the rights to stream it.

>> No.2541318

>>2541061
>This is the only way I see it happening
If chat tells her there's three different endings, and that they're relatively quick, she'll probably do it on her own.

>> No.2541589

>>2541262
you mean the ingame location?
or...

>> No.2541632

>>2541589
Ingame location?

>> No.2541690

>>2508421
>Miko pauses, dodges to read story
>Kiara yells that she doesn't care about story in a game where a single line makes all the difference
I can't wait for her to yell and complain the entire time through Ending E

>> No.2541799

>>2541632
there is an android brothel where a murder is investigated around two thirds into the story, also I think there were android porn mags or something like that

>> No.2541840

>>2541799
Yeah no, I meant actual porn
I think fugtrup made one or two

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We're in the final stretch boys, let's go!

>> No.2542906

>>2508653
Idiot newfag. You guys dont even lurk anymore.

>> No.2542986

>>2534006
>>2533090

Either some Alexa-like device, her cats, her phone, or her roommate she lives with. Or even someone her roommate brought over. She is not living alone by herself yet.

>> No.2543266

can you believe Kiara is sitting on the toilet right now reading this thread.
IMAGINE

>> No.2543309

>>2543266
the sounds and the smell

hmmmmmm

if only I was able to clean her right after

>> No.2543360

>>2540887
If Ina killed the radiance in hollow knight i don't see why chimkin couldn't do ending E

>> No.2543470

when do questions open for holotalk

>> No.2543579

>>2543360
Who is more of a "GAMER"? Ina or Kiara?

Ina mostly plays gacha games, while Kiara has played pc games, city-building games, and diablo since a child.

>> No.2543673

>>2543579
Technically? I'd say Kiara because of variety, but in terms of what this board considers "gamer" probably Ina.

>> No.2543891

>>2521062
But that's Kotori, not Kiara.

>> No.2543954

>>2543579
Ina is a "GAMER" whereas Kiara is more of an unironic gamer. I mean, Diablo (or any similar arpg) and city-building games (both of which are staples of germanic gaming culture btw) aren't exactly the most common of games to play, true female normies only really play Animal Crossing and such.

>> No.2544103

>>2543954
>>2543579
Ina wasn't allowed to play games as a kid while Kiara's mom encouraged her play all sorts, not really a fair comparison.

>> No.2544122

This fight kind of sucks to watch if you've played it already.

>> No.2544198

>>2544103
>wasn't allowed to play games
Jesas, and here I thought at least part of the 'strict asian parents' stereotype was false. Like, different culture and all, I get it, but have these people never heard of this thing called 'mental health' and how constant pressure can fuck with thatt pretty badly? Then again, I don't want to presume anything.

>> No.2544229

>>2544122
I haven't played any of it. So I am enjoying

>> No.2544235

>>2544198
so she did have a priestess upbringing after all

>> No.2544312

>>2544198
Yeah she said until the WiiU came out and her dad learned it had a golf game they couldn't play games if I remember correctly.

>> No.2544405

>>2544103
people with strict restrictions on vidya really do end up as the biggest addicts later in life

>> No.2544505

>>2544405
Is that why asians have such large e-sports branches? They don't play in their childhood, get addicted to gaming later and then decide to make money with it because they might as well/their parents nag them about 'making it'?

>> No.2544507

>>2544312
wtf golf is cool though

>> No.2544566

>Skipped the credits because she was sad
Avoidant personality as fuck.

>> No.2544608

>>2544566
What was the point in waiting? There is nothing there but music.

>> No.2544777

>>2544608
Letting what just transpired sink in. But I understand: Kiara wasn't fully invested in the game anyway.

Pretty KY moment if you ask me.

>> No.2544870

>>2544777
She knows there is more to do and see, and she can't wait because she likes the game.

>> No.2544915

>>2544777
begone, anti

>> No.2544945

>>2544608
Comment on what just happened

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>>2508421
Imagine feeling so threatened by a fucking chicken with an up beat personality.

>> No.2545034

>>2544915
I doubt he is anti. He is one of those who will get pissed if someone doesn't cry while watching very sad part. I assume, this anon already played this and wanted to her her experience the same emotions as he did.

>>2544777
Am I right?

>> No.2545093

>>2544777
>But I understand: Kiara wasn't fully invested in the game anyway.
I felt like she was until she read spoilers in the chat

>> No.2545133

>>2545093
How is that even her fault? She always reads chat, and if they are posting spoilers she can't avoid that.

>> No.2545184

>>2545133
never said it was her fault, i'm just stating my opinion. early on it felt like she was energetic to play through it, read spoilers in chat, and after it just felt like she half hearted the rest of the way.

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>I'M SO SWEATY
I CAN'T ENDURE THAT I'LL NEVER SNIFF HER SEAT AFTER A 6 HOUR NIER AUTOMATA +(6 HOUR SUPERCHAT) STREAM

>> No.2545265

>>2545236
That she took a shit in the middle of.

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>>2545236

>> No.2545284

If she got spoiled that just makes her complete inability to comprehend what the fuck is going even more impressive. She's cute and upbeat alright, but god this chicken is fucking dum.

>> No.2545294
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>>2544915
>anti
is that what you call not unconditionally praising this loveable bird?

>> No.2545300

WHERE IS POLAND

>> No.2545317

Angry austrian screaming at poland

>> No.2545331

My palms are sweaty

>> No.2545362

she's gonna puss out and not delete her save.

>> No.2545393

She's more frustrated with this being hard than with the meaning of deleting all the producers of the game lol
Pretty clear self-reflection is not the strongest point of this bird. She's pure emotion.

>> No.2545486

KFP it's time to avenge Kiara against Poland. Let's invade Poland!

>> No.2545495
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>>2545362
as a creature that knows that im sure she knows the value of it

>> No.2545514

>>2545393
Anyone with half a brain would've realised she wouldn't get half the stuff that wasn't explicitly spelt out. I'm surprised she picked up a few things but she's at least enjoying it even if some of the meaning flies over her head

>> No.2545530

>>2545236
Plus she revealed she doesn't use deodorant.

Stencho is real.

I want to take a deep breath in her armpit.

>> No.2545549

>Kiara raging so hard she doesn't notice extra text every time she dies

>> No.2545557

>>2545294
yes

>> No.2545575
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>>2545034
>Am I right?
Only with me not being an anti and did play the game.
I'm watching Kiara play this for her shenanigans and having fun.

>> No.2545622
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2545622

God, she is so fucking dumb

>> No.2545639 [DELETED] 

>>2545362
>He thinks she's actually going to finish it

>> No.2545650

>>2545622
Dumm fickt gut

>> No.2545730
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>>2545530

>> No.2545829
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2545829

She said she has permanent brain damage.

>> No.2545877

Why is she like this...

>> No.2545928

I never played nier so I dont know the meaning of this long ass credits sequence.
Why is it so long? Actual question.

>> No.2545942

Are people really losing their saves everytime she gets hit?

>> No.2545952

>>2541690
Called it

>> No.2545954

>>2545829
She talks like hannah hays so im not surprised.

>> No.2545996

>>2545928
you wouldnt understand.
>>2545942
yes

>> No.2546057

>completely misses the point of the ending because she doesn't pay attention to the what's on screen (as always)
>interrupts what should be the most emotional moment in the game with autistic screeching
Kek

>> No.2546098

>>2546057
Authentic Kiara experience.

>> No.2546111

> didnt make a comment about the music change
im done.

>> No.2546114

>>2545952
>>2546057
>WHY DON'T YOU LIKE KIARA?! SEANIGGER SEANIGGER!

t. kfp

>> No.2546147

>No sacrifice stream
game bugged?

>> No.2546154

>>2545996
Damn, rip for those players lol

>> No.2546167

>>2546098
I love her Zatsudans but I have no idea why anyone would want to put themselves through the torture of watching her play a video game, she never gives a single rats ass about what's happening onscreen.

>> No.2546185

>>2546147
I literally have no idea what happened there.

>> No.2546187

>>2546154
you opt in for it, and the game asks you like seven times.

>> No.2546191

>>2545928
The pods are fighting their creators (literally - the devs) in order to save 2B, 9S and A2 to give them another chance

>> No.2546193

>>2545877
Why are YOU like this?

>> No.2546217

Based Austrian philopher

>> No.2546225

>>2546147
Game is probably like "Fuck you then. Just go."

Seriously though, what actually happened kek

>> No.2546232

I thought it asks for the save delete after credits?

>> No.2546247

Did they really not put the deletion prompt because she left a sarcastic message for other players?

>> No.2546295
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2546295

>cucked herself out of the true ending by being a pissy self-centered bitch
ACTUAL REAL LIFE POTTERY

>> No.2546298

>>2546185
looks like the windows store edition can flip out and skip "do you want to help others" or that's just teh effect of leaving a salty message lol, I've only ever seen positive ones when playing

>> No.2546339

>>2546147
She needed to leave an encouraging message to get the true true ending

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2546351

>>2546295

>> No.2546356

>>2546295
That's so stupid though, like most of the negative options are clearly jokes.

>> No.2546371

>>2546295
Bullies BTFO

>> No.2546385

>>2546225
>>2546295
>I was unironically right

>> No.2546388

>>2546339
Dude how the fuck can she know?

>> No.2546401

She might play replicant, so I guess she did care about the story to some degree.

>> No.2546424

>>2546388
> HOW CAN SHE KNOW...
> HOW IS IT HER FAULT...
> HOW COULD SHE HAVE SEEN IT...

stop.

>> No.2546442

>>2546388
It was about doing to others what they did to you, encourage you during the final fight and all.

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2546473

This thread has served it's purpose

>> No.2546481

>>2546356
they're not fit for the moment that is meant to pick you up from your lowest of being salty and down since most people at least get to marketing division where the difficulty ramps up and it becomes neigh impossible to dodge/shoot through everything
but that requires higher thinking skills

>> No.2546489
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2546489

Kiara reminded me taht this game is out in a week so I bought it

>> No.2546497

>>2546388
If she wasn't a legitimately double-digit IQ bitch who doesn't pay attention to anything except $$$$ SCs she would have realized the meaning of the ending and done the right thing.

Too bad it's Kiara we're talking about and she gets what she deserves.

>> No.2546500

What a great ending

>> No.2546528

>>2546388
It's so beautifully hilarious because that's how she actually felt. Like the game actually flipped her off for her attitude KEK

>> No.2546529

>>2546295
Absolutely deserved.

>> No.2546531

>>2546191
They really should've made it better and part of the actual game and not a "credit roll is the actual ending" gimmick.
I didnt think many people got the meaning when I first played it. I know its confirmation bias but there's a fuckton of default encouragement messages so I think people literally just mashed through it.

>> No.2546580

>be a bitch
>ruin your experience
K I N O
I
N
O

>> No.2546581

>>2546497
>she gets what she deserves.
To keep her save data?

>> No.2546608

>>2546388
>>2546497
I think she would've chosen the negative message regardless because it's more funny and fits her character better. It's a much more authentic choice. If she chose the positive message that would've been meta-gaming, so I'm happy with her decision.

>> No.2546623

>>2545942
No, the game just tells you that. That would be a waste of time to actually program.

>> No.2546624

>>2546481
>implying success coming from spite doesn't exist

>> No.2546634

>>2546531
Yoko Taro is always thinking in 6Head perspective so that was likely intentional

>> No.2546655

>>2546581
To lose out of one of if not the most memorable parts of the game.
Having said that, she wasn't exactly going to appreciate it so no big loss to her honestly.

>> No.2546700

>>2546580
Yoko Taro is truly a god amongst men.

>> No.2546704

>>2545942
there is a bank of stock lives and each saves lasts a few before it's overwritten, otherwise you'd need touhou gods to replay it everyday so normal people would get support

>> No.2546714

>>2546497
Again, this is fucking guessing game. You CAN'T know it. I would put negative message as well just to piss players off, making them to prove me wrong. Everyone has their own way of encouragement.

>> No.2546753

Lmao she loved the game. Literally called it one of her favourites. How did she "ruin" the experience?

>> No.2546788

>>2546624
>didn't witness dozens of ytbers and streamers claiming to be good trying do it without help and failing after 6 hours of constant tries

>> No.2546790
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2546790

I left a negative as fuck message but I guess the game didn't clue in on it. Based me??

>> No.2546807

>>2546753
By not paying attention to the story. If she liked the game she would actually read the dialogue.

>> No.2546838

What was the picking characters for an RPG thing she mentioned?

>> No.2546931

>>2533984
How do you show sarcasm as a german? Because at least Kiara doesn't really change her tone whenever she's making a joke

>> No.2546943

Holy schizo Batman

>> No.2546946

>>2546807
>Y-you can o-only enjoy it if you played it my way!
This is your mind on /v/

>> No.2547014
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>people are seriously arguing about her choices
>about the game she played

Someone here is missing the point of watching people play. If you want to see different ending so watch it somewhere else or play it yourself again.

>> No.2547019

>>2546753
you fight
you lose
but you want to see the androids live so you push through
you eventually reach a ceiling of poorly programmed shmups and still can't get through
you get help, the CHORUS in the start kicks off with your voice in unison wanting to see something good for the characters for once in their lives
you still get hit but see that others take hits for you sacrificing their data just to help you (in your perspective at time)
you make it through, feeling uplifted
you leave a message for others, a positive one
you get asked like 3-5 times if you sure you want to sacrifice your data for someone who doesn't know you
someone who might not appreciate you or even spite you, with no one thanking you
you say yes and are hit by catharsis as your save is wiped away in front of your eyes

you need to be certain kind of autist to get so attached to characters and their digital suffering but no one said that Taro games aren't made with those autists in mind

>> No.2547036

>>2546634
>"The capitalization is yoRHa is meaningful and relevant to the story"
>"what is it?"
>"Its a secret :^)"
I think people would enjoy their games a lot more, and a lot closer to Taro's own vision, if he stopped trying to be cryptic and cool about things and just made the game. Case in point I sincerely think 50% of players missed the point of this ending (and of most of the game). Google autocompletes "meaning" after everything nier related.
I also think he's an actual aspie and thinks that since he's had 3 years to think of something, people will organically connect points A and Z and think the same way he did. If he made it clearer and more explicit that you're sacrificing your game and real, actual experience to give the fictitious, non-existence characters a canonical good ending on your screen, people would be more receptive and sympathetic when other players' saves appear on screen. Its not particularly hard to understand but if you're used to credit scenes being nothing, its easy to miss.

Just make the game.

>> No.2547047

I remember feeling emotional when Mikochi finished the game. This retarded chicken ruined the fucking experience by screaming like a bitch. No shit she gets shitty numbers when she filters everyone by being an annoying cunt

>> No.2547048

>>2547014
Kind of have it wrong anon, the people complaining have already played the game, Kiara just didn't play it "correctly" according to them.

>> No.2547060

>>2546608
this

meta-gaming is not always the true experience

the game still expected something like this to happen

>> No.2547077

>>2547048
Well, that's just silly.

>> No.2547097

I feel like the only reason this negative message thing is because I got lazy and just went with the default message. Had I scrolled through all the options I would've certainly picked one of the negative ones because some of them are really funny.

>> No.2547185

i've seen a billion different "normal" emotional reactions to this ending, so just seeing someone getting absolutely salty was pretty interesting. i understand the seethe from nier fans because i was also moved when i played it, but just deal with it, i guess.

>> No.2547193

>>2547019
What if she picked "no"?

>> No.2547217

>>2546753
Lost count of the amount of times she was talking about her fucking streaming schedule during important dialogue and then asking what was said after.
You can still love a gimped experience.

>> No.2547296

>>2546114
Kfp might be the most forgiving fanbase to excuse the shit that happened. I hope she watches how Miko played. She can learn a thing or two about timing

>> No.2547297

>>2547193
the pods will say it's understandable but you're supposed to be taken by the moment and do like others did for you
in questions they ask if you're fine with someone selfishly using your data and fucking off after

>> No.2547343

>>2547296
any fanbase would excuse their oshi. it's just that kiara gets into more situations that "need to be excused" compared to the other hololive members

>> No.2547387

>>2547036
t. uncreative hack

It's called depth, and it's almost inherently inaccessible and niche. Yes, not everyone will get it, but for those that do, it's all the more meaningful. I would honestly assume a 4chan user of all people would understand the concept.

>> No.2547404

>>2547217
She does this in every game with story
The funniest thing is that even KFP complains about it and Kiara has mentioned it a few times, but as with everything she does wrong, instead of fixing it she stubbornly insists that she is right, ie. "i hAvE To EnTeRtAiN yOu GuYs pLs UnDeRsTaNd"

>> No.2547513

>>2547404
It's just so strange. Kiara is stuck in the late 00s brand of "entertainment" where people like nostalgia critic hyperventilating over a lets play was seen as fun. Or shit like PDP crying about barrels or yelling over happy wheels for 200 videos. Kiara yelling over the end of Nier is NOT good timing. Id rather she not get the story, but she essentially just shit all over it

>> No.2547538

Threads full of /v/niggers. Back to /hlgg/

>> No.2547547

Alright well thread was fun but now it's just turning into shitflinging and crying so I'm out

>> No.2547575

>>2547343
The worst part is that, for a significant portion of this stream, I was really warming up to her. Default Kiara isn't really bad to watch honestly. Pretty good even, dare I say it.
It's just these baffling, annoying as fuck moments that tend to completely overshadow the rest of her content for many people here and sully her reputation.
As a frequent Kiara critic, I enjoyed about 95% of what I watched of this stream, yet have come out with an even worse opinion of her than I did previously.
How does she do it?

>> No.2547624

>>2547538
I've never played nier. But i read the subtitles throughout and was intrigued. And annoyed that Kiara essentially had a more hands on experience and yet didn't understand a single thing.

>> No.2547676

her only crime was deleting pascal's memories and not seeing the aftermath of her choice. dumb bird

>> No.2547694

>>2547575
It's because up until this last stream she actually improved. She got better at hacking. She got better in general. But god box hacking and the ending made her regress

>> No.2547741

>>2547676
then again you don't really have a reason to go through the village as 9S solo
the game would need to disable Fast Travel for you to consider it as it's one of the quicker routes to go with

>> No.2547792

>>2547387
The fact that you assume 4chan is in any way niche or different when it was built as a proto-imgur for SA people, it was almost instantly colonized by every other forum, and it has been completely mainstream, almost a household name, since 2014 (with gamergate), or 2007 with "anonyomous" if you want to be more inclusive. and your ingrained hipster-esque mentality that things are better the more obscure and cryptic they're built to be already makes me not want to reply to your newfag-reeking shitpost.
"Depth" is the crutch of the midwit, the pseud, and the garbage script writer in the exact same way greyscale art cinema is the crutch of garbage cinematographers or edgyness and quirkyness are the crutch of people without personality.
Ive never meet anyone that called a movie or a game "deep" that wasnt an intellectually bankrupt mongoloid with zero creativity or artistry. ESOASM and No Country For Old Men are not deep. Neither is "want to delete your save to help someone else? This is very impactful btw".

>> No.2548183

>>2547575
I've been watching Kiara for a long time but this stream made me dislike her, and I don't know why I don't even like nier that much, but I think it's a good opportunity to watch other EN, I only watched Kiara before

>> No.2548187
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I'm entertained. Kiara is entertained. I'm sorry your video game pride doesn't let you enjoy games with Kiara. She is bad at video games. She can't focus on dialogues, gameplay and chat at the same time. That's why she missed a lot of context at the beginning of route A and at the end of E. However she creates a stream experience unlike any other entertainer. It's pure kino. If you want game design kino, you need her to play only with you, not with thousands of people ngmi. Take your meds, swallow your pride and just enjoy the roller coaster of Takanashi Kiara!

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Lots of words ITT just to say you wanted Kiara to cry at the end.
I love my chickenwife the way she is, because she's extremely authentic. I'll keep messaging her, getting likes on her twitter accounts, sending funny/wholesome superchats, and enjoying the Kiara experience to the fullest.

>> No.2548242

>>2508421
>not just getting mad at chuubas
>not just writing an autistic wall of text about getting mad at chuubas
>but doing so on 4chan and replying to yourself OVER THIRTY times
Alright, this is it. This is the most pathetic thing. Like, this is some chris-chan level autist cringe. I don't know if I'm more disgusted or fascinated. I'd love to read an article or watch a documentary about people like this. Seriously what the hell.

>> No.2548261

>>2548198
>>2548187
Based chickenfags

>> No.2548274

>>2548198
Didn't want her to cry. Just wished she didn't get mad like that.

>> No.2548507

>>2548187
i enjoyed most of automataa, the end was just soured by her sperging out

>> No.2548759

>>2548274
>>2548507
Oh, shut up. It was clear she was pissed off by the hacking and not by the idea of the ending itself. She loved the ending and even got emotional when she saw the androids were fine. For someone that claims to love Nier so much, you're awfully quick to point your fingers at others and reject them. Fuck Nier fans, fuck you for your backseating. Kiara's playthrough would have been perfect if she hadn't had to deal with such whiny faggots complaining all the time because they're trying too hard to emulate their own playthrough through her.
t. Yoko Taro fan whose favorite game is Nier Automata and that is capable of crying listening to Weight of the World

>> No.2548945

>>2547624
I'm only playing right till ending A and watch the rest of other endings on youtube, I don't really want to play as 9s, and looking at steam's achievements it looks there are tons of people like me

>> No.2549037

>>2548759
I'd be fine with cutting it at C/D and leaving E+F for another stream so she could go at it with cool head rather than buzzed up because godbox fucked her up and it's been almost 7 hours of constant play
I don't comment or SC on streams since unless you hivemind the answer with others you most likely will be ignored, and SC don't get read right away anyway with it being rude to backseat that way, so no need for backseat accusations and i'm just giving a commentary on mongolian basket weaving icon based forum
9S also scales like crazy with damage even on mediocre mods so his 2-string kills can be faster than bothering to hack

>> No.2549143

>>2548759
No i was annoyed at the yelling throughout ending E. Hacking has nothing to do with it

>> No.2549384

>>2548945
Do you have the stats on those?

>> No.2549392

>>2549143
Then fuck you for continue to watch it then, should just have gone to someone else.

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>>2549384
not steam but I did find this on some achievement tracking site for xbox. already a hefty drop just going from A to B

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>That feeling of happiness when she likes one of your messages
Give us 1 more month and we're having a family.

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>>2549384
Here, or you can check them yourself on steam page

>> No.2549651

>>2549567
>>2549595
pretty similar drop in percentage on both platforms it seems

>> No.2549840

>>2549595
>>2549567
People seem to be put off by the "now do it again" drakengard style of storytelling. Now that I think of it there's no western equivalent of routed gameplay a la visual novels with 16 endings.

>> No.2550005

>>2544198
"mental health" isn't a thing in Asia (both east asia and SEA)
If you're stressed or pressured, you're expected to get over it.
That's why SEA schizophrenia goes unmedicated

>> No.2550191

>>2547792
>The fact that you assume 4chan is in any way niche or different
Nah, not even going to engage with this section of the bait. Moving on to this however...
>"Depth" is the crutch of the midwit, the pseud, and the garbage script writer in the exact same way greyscale art cinema is the crutch of garbage cinematographers or edgyness and quirkyness are the crutch of people without personality
Even this I struggle to tackle adequately. You're actually correct here, it's just not an actual argument against what I said.
>Ive never meet anyone that called a movie or a game "deep" that wasnt an intellectually bankrupt mongoloid with zero creativity or artistry.
Sorry about that, maybe make more friends, speak to more people?
>ESOASM and No Country For Old Men are not deep. Neither is "want to delete your save to help someone else? This is very impactful btw".
Finally, the only part of this tripe worth a damn. Perhaps you have a alternate definition of depth than my own. If so, I'll make myself a bit clearer:
There are techniques and tools in artistry that are, for whatever reason, are less accessible than others. Wordplay, inside jokes, references, double entendre, the list is endless. They are less accessible simply because they are not common knowledge. When I say "depth", I simply mean utilizing these 'inaccessible' techniques and topics that, do to their specific nature, again, resonate with those that do get them, or take the time to think about and understand them, on a deeper than normal level. And, whatever you may think, it DOES do this.
Edgy shit has greater depth to teenagers/kids. Most people nowadays don't like it, and it's easy to make, but it is. Greyscale has greater depth to... whoever the fuck actually likes that.
Depth, as I use the word, is about honing in on a particular experience you want to convey, audience you want to communicate with, idea you want to explore, or what have you, and recognizing that for one reason or another it will alienate a more general audience in one way or another, going ahead and reaching as deep as possible to invoke that feeling in those that you're aiming at.
I use the 4chan example because the site factually still has features and a culture that alienate a general audience from using it (features that resonate with the userbase), not any 'secret club' bullshit.
Of course, it all exists on a spectrum, which is why nothing is "deep" definitively. But your entire argument about "Dumb your shit down Taro, Mom and Pop don't get it!" is fucking asanine and the absolute stalest approach to art.
He would more than likely look at our back and forth and have his views reinforced, because contrary to what you think:
> also think he's an actual aspie and thinks that since he's had 3 years to think of something, people will organically connect points A and Z and think the same way he did
he knows that most people won't do this and chose to go forward with the decisions anyway.
Everything from the character models, to the 'replaying' structure of the game, to the color pallet and even the fucking box art is off-putting to many, many people. These were all conscious decisions. The only reason why the game has a tenth of it's audience is because PlatinumGames swooped in to make the gameplay actually half-decent. Otherwise, Taro wouldn't probably not have even given a fuck.
That's depth. It's not an inherently better or worse approach, but sure creates a hell of a lot of variety.

>> No.2550882

>>2548945
>I'm only playing right till ending A
>I'm dropping a game not even halfway through

>> No.2550967

>>2549840
People seem to think that having various endings means something like getting one ending on your first playthrough and then trying to do the other routes if you feel like it, but in the case of Nier Automata that's simply not the case. The game ends when you reach Ending E, end of story, and calling any of the endings before it "endings" is misleading. The various endings in Automata aren't alternate routes, they're simply chapters of a single playthrough.

>> No.2551299
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2551299

Kiara's speech she did during the Nier stream

https://streamable.com/l7an8l

It's pretty wholesome

>> No.2551729

>>2523566
God-tier artist.

>> No.2551781

>>2551299
>goes on a 2.5 minute spiel about never giving up
>immediately gives up when things get just a little hard in credits hacking

>> No.2551847

>>2551781
Wut? She didn't give up at all she played through the entire game lel

>> No.2551879

>>2551781
Antichama please watch the streams before commenting.

>> No.2551888

>>2551847
She whined about how much she hates it throughout the whole thing.

>> No.2551897
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2551897

Guys remember your reps.
You can even get free stuff out of this like coupon codes/free voice pack of your choice and shit.

https://cover-corp.com/report/en/#lang

>> No.2551914

>>2551879
Not that anon but let me help him out:
>goes on a 2.5 minute spiel about never giving up
>immediately gives up when things get just a little hard in god box hack

>> No.2551937

>>2551888
She said she doesn't like the hacking mini game, yeah and? And why do you make up rrats about her giving up? Are you a newfag in the art of trolling? You are not making yourself very believable if the first thing your'e saying is proven wrong directly in the stream kek

>> No.2551976

>>2551914
I don't need your pity. God box hack wasn't as bad, she whined but pulled through. With credits hack she'd gave up immediately if chat didn't pressure her into finishing it.
>>2551937
Take it easy, not everyone is a troll, anti or a seanigger.

>> No.2551995

>>2551976
>Take it easy, not everyone is a troll, anti or a seanigger.
>Literally makes up a rrat about her giving up
>Downplays her emotional speech
>Is lurking in a Kiara fan thread to do this

Yeah not an anti at all kek
Your'e probably samefagging as well

>> No.2552098

>>2551995
Oh, for fuck's sake, it's not a rrat. Do you asshole even know what a rrat is?
>Hey, this is an inconsistency, I'll poke some fun at it, maybe couple anons will share a chuckle with me.
>"OH MY GOD, DID HE JUST IMPLY THAT SHE'S NOT PERFECT IN EVERY WAY? INCONCIEVABLE, UNACCEPTABLE!"
This is why nobody comes to your thread.

>> No.2552307

>>2551976
>I don't need your pity. God box hack wasn't as bad, she whined but pulled through. With credits hack she'd gave up immediately if chat didn't pressure her into finishing it.
You do and seem to have it backwards. God box, she actually unironically gave up when a commenter said it wasn't necessary and only completed it when she tried to leave the area and found out that it actually was.
Technically, she never actually gave up in the credits. She, as you said, "whined but pulled through".

>> No.2552455

>>2508421
How else you're suppose to get other the thread going again?

>> No.2552490

>>2550191
"Deep", the opposite of superficial, is usually understood as "having layered qualities that require some amount of thinking" or something to that effect, as opposed of having no subtext and presenting every idea at face value. These are not good/bad synonyms or equivalents. Something can be very deep and hold a lot nuance and be absolute ass. Something can be very simple and straightforward and be great.
Inside jokes and wordplay dont make something deep just because people struggle with the references. Lucky Star or Gintama have chock full of (now) obscure references and they're not "deep" in the slightest. Obscurity is not depth either.
>Depth, as I use the word, is about honing in on a particular experience you want to convey, audience you want to communicate with, idea you want to explore, or what have you
Not really what "deep" means at all, but close enough for the sake of discussion.
>recognizing that for one reason or another it will alienate a more general audience in one way or another
Again, no. Something being unpopular or alienating on purpose doesnt make it deep, and something can be deep and wide-reaching.
This is why I say people that use "deep" unironically are pseuds. 90% of the time its used as the kino-filtered substitute for "pretentious". More often than not, if people are uninterested by your work its because its very bad, not because its too deep and people cant understand. ESOASM, usually touted as THE deep movie, was a box office success and has a 9 across the board on rating sites. This is similarly true with other "DEEP" movies like Fight Club being in every young man's top 5 and fucking Tree of Life getting the Palme D'Or and being in every pseud's top 8.

>entire argument about "Dumb your shit down Taro, Mom and Pop don't get it!"
"Make your shit better, Taro.", rather. I could waste a lot of characters typing what I thought "the point" of Nier Automata was coming from Drakengard, but I wont.
My post is about Taro wanting to convey a message, and failing miserably, because people arent engaged enough to care about his message. Your point is that people are not engaged because they "dont get it, man" because the concept is too deep for them. Its not really the case, since most of them get it after things are explained to them, so it must be the way things are explained that is the problem.
You can very easily convey extremely deep concepts with extremely simple resources. Deleting every third line from a poem is not "depth". Obscurity is not depth.
The issue here is Taro being a clinically autistic pseud and thinking about "deep movies" as these incomprehensible semiotic beasts with 40 different angles on good and evil, so when asked to make a deep sequence he busts out the on screen letters and the whispery voiceover.

Speed round:
>4chan has features and culture that alienates a general audience
So 4chan is conceptually deep now (when most people use nu-IRC instead of threaded posts) but now when it was created (when 4chan was a downgraded forum, xerox'd from japanese extremely barebones imageboards?
Is it deep because its hard to understand and use? Im sorry if you were using just as a side analogy and not an example of what-depth-is, I've had extreme problems with this part since the beginning. Its just so stupid.
>Nier:
>character models
His core reason for the characters looking like they do is "I just really like girls". This may be the only part of the game *without* real depth.
>replaying structure of the game
Automata has routes because Drakengard had routes. Drakengard had routes because Dynasty Warriors was originally a fighting game and fighting games have multiple endings.
Im not saying he dislikes the multiple ending system but at this point he HAS to do it.
>color pallet and box art
I agree.

>> No.2553056

>>2545265
Is this true?
Please, don't feed my terrible fetish like this.

>> No.2553119

>>2552490
Not him, but you're not better than him saying shit like this.
>"Make your shit better, Taro.", rather. I could waste a lot of characters typing what I thought "the point" of Nier Automata was coming from Drakengard, but I wont.
>My post is about Taro wanting to convey a message, and failing miserably, because people arent engaged enough to care about his message. Your point is that people are not engaged because they "dont get it, man" because the concept is too deep for them. Its not really the case, since most of them get it after things are explained to them, so it must be the way things are explained that is the problem.
>You can very easily convey extremely deep concepts with extremely simple resources. Deleting every third line from a poem is not "depth". Obscurity is not depth.
>The issue here is Taro being a clinically autistic pseud and thinking about "deep movies" as these incomprehensible semiotic beasts with 40 different angles on good and evil, so when asked to make a deep sequence he busts out the on screen letters and the whispery voiceover.

First off, you're wrong about people not being engaged enough to care about the message. People are engaged enough to care and this is why the discourse are the game is so strong. Even Kiara who didn't reach far enough towards the messages of the game got this, she was engaged in the narrative and wanted to understand it better and enjoyed it to the end. You're trying way too hard to paint Taro in a bad light here. Also, just because things are not "traditionally straightforward" doesn't mean they aren't simple. NieR Automata is not by all means a complex game. Every character, background and plot twist is direct and effective for the core message, very few things are actually ambiguous in this game. The difference between someone that understand the full scope of the narrative of the game is the difference of commitment people are willing to put in finding optional things and for that, you might say that this game is aimed at invested gamers. What makes NieR Automata special though is that almost all the aspects of the game reinforce its core message and make it a stronger piece altogether. You're being a pseud right now trying to be so smart to the point of being needlessly derogatory.

>> No.2553159

>>2553056
Nah, she just went to check what her cat was up to, but the way she worded it initially was weird and people thought she was going to the toilet.

>> No.2553233

>>2553119
>You're trying way too hard to paint Taro in a bad light here.
Am I? I already said I liked Drakengard, Nier and Automata. This whole chain comes from me saying that Taro should've made his point better with the "you're fighting the devs and sacrificing your safe along with the rest of the players to give the characters a canonical good ending" credit scene thing. That plenty of people didnt get it at all and they just mashed through it assuming it was a normal credit scene.
I never said Nier or Automata wasnt deep or that it didnt have deep topics or that they presented them in a bad fashion. Read the whole chain.
I agree with most of the rest. Also the "just because things are not "traditionally straightforward" doesn't mean they aren't simple." is half my point with "things dont need to be complex to be simple".

>> No.2553377

>>2553233
Unironically, I think Kiara was smarter than most people give her credit for. People understood the metanarrative easily nowadays because its the trend, but most people don't contextualize that segment in story effective terms when playing through it, something which Kiara did almost immediatly as she started playing through the credits sequence. During that entire segment, she was playing through the game, the story, not the metanarrative people clung so hard to because "videogames are important for me". And for that she is based. Caring about others playing through the game and helping them is fine, but its undeniable that caring about the characters and wanting to help them is even more important for the impact of the story to work.

>> No.2553448

new thread
>>2553443

>> No.2554184

>>2552490
So basically, we are using deep in pretty different manners. I personally don't use your (and to be honest, admittedly the standard) definition of "depth" because it's used as almost a binary and thus is practically meaningless in artistic discourse. At that point, what's 'deep' and not is just subjective.

Seeing as you're still operating by your definition throughout your reply (and interpreting my post through it) there isn't really much for me to say. I will say a couple things, though it's mostly tangential:
>Deleting every third line from a poem is not "depth". Obscurity is not depth.
Again, not talking about "depth" but this made me chuckle, when you consider how Miyazaki writes his lore and how revolutionary and "deep" it was (mostly in the medium of gaming) combined with how it was used.
Scratch that actually- I think, even with the standard definition, obscurity doesn't create "depth" in and of itself, but it's certainly a tool that can be used to achieve that.

Also, you say:
>Your point is that people are not engaged because they "dont get it, man" because the concept is too deep for them. Its not really the case, since most of them get it after things are explained to them, so it must be the way things are explained that is the problem.
It's not the concept that is too... "deep", it's the method of conveyance, which is the entire point. Art is not about the message itself, it's about how that message is put forth for the viewer to consume. About the journey, not the destination. Of course people are going to get it after it's explained to them, it was just explained to them! Any concept in existence can be gotten if you explain enough, but again, it's about the method not the actual substance.

You've brought up what makes something "deep" and not deep, but you've yet to actually explain what makes something deep or not. Some examples would also help, that is, if you don't mind becoming a pseud, according to you.

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2554266

>>2553377
>During that entire segment, she was playing through the game, the story, not the metanarrative people clung so hard to because "videogames are important for me". And for that she is based.
>olympic gold medal mental gymnast

>> No.2554672

>>2554184
>complains (?) about my definition of deep
>"admittedly the standard"
I dont see the problem here. A deep movie is a not -superficial movie. A superficial game is a not-deep game.
I dont know why you want to change the definition of deep to suit your post, why you thought I'd just go with your definition, or why you'd think using this made up definition would be good for your post. Just use "artistic" or "closer to the director's vision" or whatever other buzzword people use to defend subtitles. I use them, they work.
Taro's ending is as Taro wanted it to be, because he wanted it that way. Thats his artistic vision. My point is that his artistic vision subjectively sucks ass in that part and people didnt get the point of that segment because he made "the point" that was never pointed at at any point in the game, with no indication that it was there, and 'hid it' in the classic credits minigame so people assumed it was a minigame.
Once again, im not saying his point was bad or lacked depth. Im saying it was delivered like shit, and making a better delivery wouldnt make his point any less deep (no quotes), and it would've made the whole ordeal less "deep" (yes quotes).

>Miyazaki lore is deep
This is subjective but as the #1 souls1 fan I dont think the lore is very deep. Dark Souls has a lot of very interesting lore but most of it its just there. Not really a subtext or moral unless you want to make up one about the abuse of power and not treating Humanity as inferior to Fire-souled people (doesnt even apply because Manus is objectively animalistic and evil so there's no truce to be had).
The ending is great and that DOES have depth and a nice moral choice. But the lore? I guess.
>obscurity helps create depth
Sure, I agree. But obscurity is not depth. Writing and filming the whole movie and cutting the last 10 minutes doesnt make it deeper per se. It can help, but obscurity is not depth.

>its about the delivery
>most people will get it after it was explained to them
Yes, and the delivery sucks so a hefty chunk of people just mashed through it and thats how you get a bunch of default encouragement quotes and people asking online what the fuck the point was and why was the ending so long.
If you have to explain delivery, if people go "it was about THAT? What?" then your delivery was bad. Which I agree is a core aspect of art.

>An example of deep
Kung Fu Panda 2. The first 12 minutes of Up. Fight Club unironically.
The rest of Automata, just not that last part. I think Automata was fantastic actually and the (probably unintended) cosmic lol about huminity being killed by nonexistent (as in fake) gods and becoming nonexistent (as in extinct, dead) gods themselves is masterful. That last part was a swing and a miss.

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