/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>25150367
Who fucking cares, your life would get a lot better when you stop caring about number faggotry. I watch both Holos and Nijis because unlike you i actually love vtubers.

>>25150367
NijiEN =/= NijiJP

>>25150537
Say that again without crying

numberniggotry ought to be a bannable offense

>>25150367
This is discord brigade faggot shit. Fuck off nigger.

what the fuck am I witnessing

>>25150612
Go to bed GMT+7 anon

>>25150841
Talent

>>25150367
I don't get it if she's that popular why are they shilling her in other people's threads?

legitimately hopes she collabs with males, then we watch the numbers dwindle in a heartbeat

>>25150939
100k bots

>>25150367
Why? She's good. I'm the first that shit in the rotten shit infested stinky sewer that is NijiEN and their 5 years old chink dicksucker fanbase, but NijiJP usually has good chuubas, if it wasn't for the male collabs I would watch a lot more of NijiJP, this one is cute, has a great voice, it's easy to understand and don't collab with males, she is a 10/10
>But she is botted!!!
C'mon, don't be a retard like the NijiEN beggars, you are embarrasing yourself

>>25150954
Wrong company. Niji isn't the incel company

NijiEN males finding success really broke /vt/'s fragile psyche

>>25151086
>didn't watch the offcollab
poor nijicuck bro...

>>25150367
No more manjisanji cope...

She reminds me why I liked vtubers in the first place.

Playing a game I play in a language I don't understand while going completly off their rocker, it's just amusing.

I don't get her numbers but that's because I can't count past 10 I lie but fuck numbers

>>25151144
Oh, that one where /vt/ was screaming and shitting their pants because they were convinced that gay men totally have sex with women

>>25150968
Also she has cleansed the board of Vox threads

BOTS BOTS BOTS BOTS BOTS BOTS

>>25151212
Holy copium...

i don't speak jap so i don't get why there's so many people watching someone just because she says desuwa everytime she finishes a sentence, japs are weird man

>>25151335
Just imagine her saying "fuck" instead and you might understand the humor

You surely understand that amerifat

Who is this girl? This isn't me being a holobrony because I don't even watch Hololive anymore. I literally just don't know who the fuck this is or why I should care.

>>25151335
3% of the people on this entire board watch her. Nobody /here/ does their fucking reps. Your average Nijibro just watches en. Salome is nothing but a weapon for us, I don't care what her content is, shes just a large number

>>25150367I hope you morons understand these are not salome fans, they are nijisanji bandwagoners. Lain patterson had 20k viewers for 2 weeks then steadly dropped to 2k and then 1k nowadays.

>>25151416
It's the new Nijisanji; she's only been out for a few days, so it's pretty understandable to have missed it, especially if you don't speak Japanese.

gura killer
suisei killer
miko killer

sell your holostocks now

>>25151605
s-s-subs...

>>25150367
how?120K!?

>>25150367
fuck the shitposts with her making me hates her for no reason even tho I hadn't even watch her

>>25151335
you dont speak japanese so of course you eop niggers dont understand anything at all.

Who cares about this shit lol seriously you weirdass otaku need to go outside and touch grass.

Would she got 200k if she were in Hololive instead?

>>25151416
>Why should I care
Fucking pleb who is missing history as Ninisanji has raised and took it's crown back and took the vtuber industry into a new golden era.
Remember me when you get your dick wet in a hot gal's pussy because both of you liked Salome.

>>25151692
She hit 127k not long after

>>25151842

she's not Vox at least... no fujo pandering or chink cock sucking, I should like her but I hate Nijisanji to the very core of my being so sorry, I can't cheer for her.

>>25150367
Oh no! Quick Yagoo, release a new botted vtuber as well!

>>25152142
this never forget the things nijiniggers did to hololive and it's fans

>>25151820
YWNBJ

>>25152142
>>25152273
Tribalfags should kill themselves desuwa~

>>25152523
you should stop shitting up the other people's threads first

>>25152594
I only stay in my generals faggot.

>>25151335
I don't get it either peko

>>25152594
Holy Retard desuwa

>>25150367
I love how one girl exposes all the actual tribalfaggots, while holobros and nijibros alike are enjoying an entertaining chuuba for once.

>>25152273
>the holobrony cries out in pain as he strikes you

>>25151335
EOP detected

> xですは
> xですはよ
> xですの
> xこと
> xまし
> xませ
> x方
> x様方
> xなって
> xかしら
> おバイオ
> おハーブ
> おミア

She's a Level 100 Ojousama, and the full package.
Others cannot compare.

>>25151913
I don't watch JP vtubers because I will never be Japanese

She can't keep up her performance for more than an hour desuwa.
Desuwa will get old soon desuwa.
120k viewers to 580k subs sus desuwa.
There is nothing to be afraid of desuwa.

>>25150367
have fun with your new tribal device, nijicuck?

>>25150367
nobody asked

>>25153197
What's "sus" is 3 thousand viewers to a bajillion subs like a third of hololive

>>25151215
that's one good thing yea.
>>25150968
So I watched her, and its clear she has streaming experience, anyone who thinks she doesn't is a retard as she knows how to fill empty space that naturally happens during lulls in game too well for an amateur. But do I think she's 120k+ viewers good? Not especially. She's not as different from Hololive as I was expecting, got the impression of Pekora and Miko really with an ojou-sama twist on the character. Not really Marine, which I sort of expected hearing about how she's a machine gun talker. I don't think she's going to be keeping this sort of attention after a month from what I saw, she's good, but not the type that will keep that many considering she can't go drama seeking to keep things fresh like Jun and Kore. If everyone is really just all in on the ojousama thing then it will get old.
>seethe
>cope

yea yea just my just subjective opinion after watching.

>>25153346
She will be the next kiara, forgotten after 1 year and become 1k only viewers, Niji will abandon her like many others nijisis

>>25151605
hodling to the ends of time like a true chad.

>>25151215
I'll never watch any Niji's because their shills are actively steering away new viewership. But at least shes JP that way most people here can't even pretend to know what shes talking about with being clipfags

>>25153362
>eop nigger cretin tardness

shes much closer to marine than to miko or pekora.

her talking skill is super high. she also has a very rich vocabulary and makes funny and clever jokes with it. also notable that she isnt "casual" despite playing an utterly casual ojou character. which means shes very selfaware of what she is being/doing. she doesnt pander to otakus with boring cliches at all either.

>>25152268
Why cope like this? People just laugh at you.

>>25153696
nta but Nijikeks say the same shit about high views on holostreams. We're no different than holokeks

>>25151883
hololive allows her to show her vagina?

>>25153060
This. It doesn't matter if you're Holofags or Nijifags, if you give her a fair chance and watch her stream then you'll like her. All the tribalfaggotry and negativity are dumb and engaging in those shits makes you unhappy. Hell, even the Nijifujos like her.

>>25150537
My favorite part is how you’ll say this when you’re losing, but the second blue water gets 5k more than a Vox or a Selen stream, you’ll spend the whole day spamming threads about how Niji is finished and that they deserve to all graduate. Two-faced snakes like you don’t have opinions worth a damn.

>>25153536
Marine doesn't stick to a character like she does, that's more Miko and Pekora, and the self-awareness is what I mention as being an experienced streamer and knowing how to fill the empty space is part of the talk skills. I didn't see any clever or funny jokes though unless your standards are super low (caught the middle of the chainsaw fight).
And what 'pandering' are you talking about, chat interaction?

>>25150367
How do you even beat botting?

>>25154133
>b-bots
Cope

>>25153784
The difference is... We doing it in right place, we not some asshole making super bait thread everyday just to feel superior

Captcha: 4GGdx

>>25154170
We really aren't. We spammed the entire biard yesterday and we'll keep doing it until it bites us.

>>25150367
remember this holochads remember this humiliation from nijiniggers
never forgive them for what they did to us

>>25154107
>And what 'pandering' are you talking about, chat interaction?
This is what really strikes me as odd on her. She doesn't bounce off chat like a regular streamer. She has commentaries but did she ever replied to chat during these games?

>>25150367
Whos we? I want desuwa to do even better.

>>25150367
I really care about this blatant IPO fraud woo
I'm so hyped guys
de gozadesua wa

>>25154170
We are superior, Hololive is the best Vtubing company

>>25154103
>implying
this is why NijiCN fans should be shot on sight

>>25154399
ehh that is ever changing, but Hololive is the foundation of this board. That fact remains.

>>25154157
>b-bots
>Cope
Definitely bots. Where were all these people before? Ange and Lize are very entertaining and don't have this audience. Curious Holofaggots will stop watching after debut coz will hurt their oshis. Yet CCV still +100k. Either these are drama fans or bots.

The only losers are the ones who can't afford an idort lifestyle and live in constant shit flinging

>>25154157
Everything is unnatural on her stream. And it isn't the first time this board has seen overblown numbers.

>>25151335
In the stream just now, at 1hr6min, there was a moment where she silently watched the boss after he was reduced to a just pair of walking legs, and with perfect timing, right after they dropped to the ground, she delivered a flawless "niwatori desuwaa" while not breaking RP. (niwatori = chicken)
It's not a knee-slapper or anything, but I feel like it exemplifies why people find her entertaining. She has a mind that lets her instantly conjure up these little funnies and uses it all throughout the entirety of her short streams, making them into more than the sum of their parts and a joy to watch from start to finish.

>Niji actually debuts someone entertaining and a lot of people check her out because she’s new
b..b..bots!

>>25154661
congrats you just described every good vtuber

>>25154661
Even her eurotruck stream was good, she hit the timing for a lot of impromptu jokes really well.

>>25151086
>nijen tard
when the females actually have a sizeable amount of viewers (unlike nijien) there is always damage to be done
it's not like your chinese femcel waiting rooms

>>25154699
>Niji actually debuts someone entertaining and a lot of people check her out because she’s new
>who SOMEHOW has bigger audience than all of their top earners COMBINED
Yes, that's botting, stop coping.

>>25154661
That's Gura

>>25154699
I wonder why they never said the same thing during Gura’s debut…

>>25154699
>constant 100k ccv
You have eyes but chose to be blind

Loving all the cope, keep 'em coming.

>>25154661
>She's this popular because she REACTS TO WHATS HAPPENING and has KEYFABE
WOW this is GROUND BREAKING!
BUY BUY BUY ANYKARAS IPO NOW TO THE MOOOOOON

>>25154741
But did she ever replied to chat?

>>25151416
You're a fucking holobrony, holobrony

Are the people here so new that they unironically don't know how Nijisanji started? This kinda viral trend thing is nothing new

>>25150367
Your gold, sir?

>>25154887
so they started with bots too?
got it

>>25154795
>I wonder why they never said the same thing during Gura’s debut…
Coz Goob didn't surpass the upper limit at that time which was Pekora's number
Only the much awaited Karaoke did
That's reasonable number

>>25154541
>Ange and Lize
You mean the whores that collab with men?

>>25154661
that sort of timing is what reminded me of Miko and Pekora. She doesn't have a monopoly on that by any means, but it is good content and the fact that she has it out the gate vs going through the experience and developing it like Pekora and Miko makes me convinced she is not someone new to streaming.

The fact that the streams are only an hour long makes every minute special, and keeps her from burning out. It’s very much quality over quantity, ironic as that is for Nijis.

>>25154973
Gura was also breaching into an almost completely untapped market

>>25154995
Same destiny awaits desuwa

Salome is my oshi ever since Pekora took a break.

Am I the only one who sees this as a good thing since it shows the industry isn't stagnanting and constantly waiting on Hololive to do something?

>>25155113
proof?

>>25155014
Laplus did it first, nigger

>>25154887
The vast majority of western vtubers fans started watching in 2020 at the earliest. I doubt most of them have even heard of Siro or Nekomasu.

>>25155135
Im subscribed to her she doesnt offer membership yet

>>25150367
I watch Hololive
I also watch Salome
cope op you massive faggot

>>25155131
>Am I the only one who sees this as a good thing since it shows the industry isn't stagnanting and constantly waiting on Hololive to do something?
Absolutely not, retard. Because her trait is fucking desuwa, a rip-off of anime. It's not original like Peko or fucking A.

>>25155223
Nigger are you really gonna go there? What's so original about adding a made up 語尾 instead of a trope one?

>>25155223
now try again but with less seethe

>>25155131
How is artificial popularity a good thing? It's a hollow victory, it removes confidence in the system and it favors those who could afford it.

>>25150367
I'm a holo too but they are becoming stale lately. That and vtubing nowadays is just e-girls with an anime avatar.

It's time to remind the standards Kizuna Ai created and I am wishing our Ojou-sama can make them remember it.

>>25150367
The Queen

>>25155131
>waiting on Hololive to do something
Indies and Nijis are far ahead of Cover in almost everything though? Nijisanji was using new AR tech for concerts before Cover had theirs, and they had to contract a 3rd party to do it

>>25155384
Why are you talking about hololive all of a sudden?

>>25150367
good, as she will get more popular, maybe lazy holos will start to feel threatened

The only ones I will accept to be above Hololive are Kamitsubaki girls
These Nijisluts should graduate en masse

>>25155146
Actually Niji Wave 1 did it first until Rin got annoyed by that limit and started streaming longer and longer and overtaking everyone bar Mito because of it.
>>25154887
Exactly, this is pretty much what Mito's breakout was like during her height.

>>25155146
Two best girl being best.

>>25150367
But I want cute girls playing anime characters well to succeed.
t.Holofan

>>25155566
>ippanjin opinion
How unrefined.

>>25154781
Miko played a wrestling game and got more viewers than most of hololives top earners combined normally get.
People will watch entertaining content, it’s not that complicated. Niji was reclining in every branch, nobody is really doing anything too exciting, but the viewers are still there.
Solo debut a new member who actually has some talent and people from all 200,000 Niji livers audiences will flock to them.
Her CCV will drop significantly in the next weeks but she’ll still have a decent audience size, assuming she’s capable of doing this act regularly without running out of steam or vocal chords.

>>25155493
For all the slack the holo is up to now, their growth is far from artificial. Even the surprise debut of holox was within expectation, hell sana streams even reflect the consequences of her absence. Salome feels like high numbers just for the sake of it.

>>25155742
top earners usually get less viewers tho

>>25155742
NijiJP wasn't reclining at all in any meaningful terms, let alone EN which is on an insane growth period right now.

>>25155835
Replace top earners with highest viewed and it’s still true

>>25150367
Each time she says desuwa my dick gets harder

>>25155742
You say those are actual nijiniggers? Then surely they have their respective oshi? Yet they watch and sub this noob desuha which will make their oshi looks inferior? Doubt that, ma dude

>>25155844
i don't know about insane growth period. Especially for the last month, where at the forefront of every streaming platform were the depp heard trials. If anything the past month has probably made a huge dent in your average english speaking vtubers audience.

>>25155384
Yeah her growth definitely isn't sustainable but it's funny that people will now argue that going viral isn't a good thing anymore.

>>25156035
NijiEN girls have gone from having just Selen and Pomu easily go above the 2k monthly median ccv mark to everyone bar Finana, Petra and Reimu be above that mark in the 3 months since Noctyx debut. Selen, Pomu, and Enna are all mid 3.5k chuubas now. It's insane growth in their context.

>>25156019
I’m not a numberfag and don’t have any data. But when Niji or Hololive debut a new talent where do you think the vast majority of their viewers come from?

Imagine what goes on in Holo vent discord.Gura's 3d live incoming

Debating the legitimacy of her viewers is pointless. Even in the /#/ thread you'll have people who simply reply with "I find it hard to believe." when presented with the reasons why she could be popular. They won't be convinced of it unless you can physically show them each and every viewer. It's just another timeloop.

>>25156231
Nijimale box sprung up around them and carried them up because they took the opprotunity. I always hear talk of the "holobox" from numberfags but HoloEN rarely does much together when i continuously see NijiEN mixing it up with collabs constsntly which is what being in a big corpo should really be for.

holobronies said her viewers will dip under 10k by the end of the month and theres only 2 days left

>ctrl + f
>desuwa
>14 matches

>>25156613
Yes anon, getting >100k live viewers consistently for several days straight is totally organic, especially when the average of other branch members is roughly 1/10 of that. Can you fuckers stop deflecting and present actual evidence that her numbers are legit?

>>25150367
It's over.

>>25156478
From your ass, faggot.
Of course they are the existing fanbase, but they don't stay after the event, people are not that free, anon.

>>25156848
yes, her numbers are legit because she hasnt been taken down for botting. Cope and seethe in the dark

>>25156848
Only evidence would be chat speed against other 100k streams to see if theres huge discrepancys which is an easy way to see botted or embedded twitch streams at least but the site that tracks that apparently hasnt been accurate in months

>>25156848
It's not several days, it's just two.

>>25156983
>hasnt been accurate in months
it's calculated archived chat that got filtered by Youtube but it's still consistent
or you could you VOD comments which Salome has way more than Miko

>>25156848
>ask others to present actual evidence that her numbers are legit
>the only evidence he can provide is getting high numbers constantly is not ORGANIC
Just funny to see holofags in such denial that they can only use the voice in their head to say someone botting. Today's graph is perfectly normal, unfortunately.

>>25156848
You're the one making claims of foul play, the burden of evidence is on you.

Competition is good, the only thing I don't like about Salome is
>RE7 stream
>again
>and she wants to play RE8 and the remakes too
It's better than endless apex or minecraft streams tho

>>25156968
>"The highly unreliable bot detection system doesn't take her down, so it means all her views are real people"
>>25157118
You faggots haven't proven that her numbers are legit, why should anyone try to prove otherwise?
>>25157155
>gets 10 times higher viewers than ANYONE from nijijp out of nowhere
>"uhhh can you prove that those view's aren't real?"

>the amount of cope in this thread

>>25150367
What? I'm actually having fun watching both Kobo and Salome hunting on Vox.

>>25157244
>Out of nowhere
So it's true that numberfags don't watch streams?

>>25157244
That's not proof, that's called conjecture.

>>25157244
>haven't proven that her numbers are legit
The fact youtube didn't do shit about it already means it's legit you retarded.
The view is consistent with the CCV. Literally trending for hours. Tons of fanart on Twitter with many manga artists jumping on the ship. What do you need for more? Maybe meds to stop the voice in your head?a

>>25150367
But ''they'' already won anon. (You)r oshi will NEVER make it to these numbers.

>>25156938
>they don’t stay after the event
They do when they realise how shit the place they came from was in comparison

>>25154661
>>25155001
This is the kind of thing that only impresses autistic people right?
Comedic timing isn't difficult at all, especially since you're doing it in something as easily predictable as a game.
In fact it's not really that comedic, since it wasn't witty, she said her line at the right time, there was nothing clever about it.

sure it's the colonscopy, right? like how are you supposed to not get interested in a girl that shows you the insides of her butt on her fucking debut?

>>25151416
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgIfLpQvelloDi8I0Ycbwpg/videos
she's brand new. Pomu's opinion: desuwa being so good explains why she's a the only one in her 'generation'.

>>25157536
Sorry to disappoint but it was her stomach, not her ass.

>>25157301
Salome is a Niji. Deal with it.

>>25157512
>she said her line at the right time
>nothing clever about it

>>25151605
Why mention those three but not the JP queen Peko or Senchou or Aqua? Mikoschizo is That you?

>>25157244
you havent proven her numbers arent legit either

>>25157512
>Comedic timing isn't difficult at all
you live in a world that also has netflix animated comedies like Hoops and Paradise PD, which are aping the popular TV comedy 'Reference Guy'.
you are like someone explaining that diamonds aren't valuable because they're only artificially rare. Practically speaking that is just explaining why they are valuable. desuwa is not doing something hard but she gets 100k viewers for it. Practically you are just joining us in shitting on her competitors who cannot even do the easy thing.

>>25157322
Yes, when a literal who with no prior marketing suddenly is the highest-viewed streamer of a company, that's called "out of nowhere"
>>25157383
>youtube didn't do shit about it already means it's legit
Youtube also doesn't do shit about masturbation asmr and nudity unless it's mass reported, your point?
>view is consistent with the CCV
Yeah sure, just like other totally not botted nijis like luxiem. So tell me, where do her viewers go after the stream is over? They don't funnel to other nijis.
>trending for hours
>Tons of fanart on Twitter with many manga artists jumping on the ship
Oh wow, highly viewed stream happens ---> it's trending ----> it attracts leeches, surely it's definitive proof that her streams aren't botted
>>25157780
"No you!"
>90-100k live viewers
>with no prior marketing
>consistent and growing by 10-20k a stream
>going from 1/4 to 1/5 of live viewer to sub ratio in just 1 stream
Nobody gets numbers that high and that consistent without foul play. Debunk this then.

>>25150367
bots

>>25155742
That number has slowly bult up since she start WWE. Also her counterpart Blue women are both on monthlong breaks where do you think their viewers go? Miko regular number + Suisei numbers + Peko numbers= 100k.
I can understand why your new ninji is getting high numbers she's something different from the rest. But where are all these new views coming from? considering only a couple top people can pull above top Holo numbers and they are mostly the males.

>>25150367
Based 90% botchad

>>25158158
holos obviously botted

>b-b-bots!!!

>>25158029
she didnt get a takedown and because niji is popular in japan, easy

>>25158304
Also China

>>25158346
That too. Glad they didn't leave that market just because that other company made bad decisions

>>25150537
Based unity chad

>>25158029
>unless it's mass reported
Then try to report it, faggot.
>where do her viewers go after the stream is over?
It ended at fucking 1 am in Japan and tomorrow is Monday when they need to go to work. Not everybody has that much time to watch stream you retraded.
>it attracts leeches
Yeah, all those fanart with thousands of likes is all fucking leeches. How will people leech if all of these numbers are botted?
>with no prior marketing
Her debut hype was at all-time high by her long-ass name and sudden solo debut. And her debut stream used this hype to boost herself into a literal meme. That's marketing

It's just getting ridiculous how you fuckers accept big numbers when it's hololive and keep coping when it's Niji. You do realize if Salome's number is botted without any sign showing it, that means Hololive's number can also be botted, right?

>>25154334

This may be the aspect that later on causes her to slow down. Right now she is the new hotness, so there isn't a big expectation on chat interaction. However as time goes by there will be some fans who will want some interaction and get turned off if she never converses with the ongoing chat. Likewise interacting with chat more can turn off those looking for someone to always stay in kayfabe 100% of the time.

>>25158452
based chingchong's ding dong sucker

>>25158751
>https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1528586518746435584

sour grapes

>>25158523
cope

>>25158029
>literal who
Second biggest company in Japan
>No prior marketing
Now I know you're just speaking on something you don't actually know about.

>>25158523
>Then try to report it, faggot.
Already did, faggot
>It ended at fucking 1 am in Japan and tomorrow is Monday when they need to go to work. Not everybody has that much time to watch stream you retarded.
Other nijis were streaming at the time, so why it didn't trickle to them? Did 120k people just suddenly said "oh no, I gotta go"?
>Yeah, all those fanart with thousands of likes is all fucking leeches. How will people leech if all of these numbers are bottled?
>twitter likes
lol, lmao even
>artists on twitter
Artists always jump on the hype train to draw trending things
>Her debut hype was at all-time high by her long-ass name and sudden solo debut. And her debut stream used this hype to boost herself into a literal meme. That's marketing
Yes, that sudden short hype train must have definitely brought her numbers higher that ALL OF FUCKING NIJI'S TOP STREAMERS COMBINED
You know that companies hype up streamers weeks in advance to make sure people anticipate it, right?
>you fuckers accept big numbers when it's hololive and keep coping when it's Niji
Nice attempt at shilling, very unbiased. I'm not a fan of either of those companies and watch 2-view indies who don't buy fucking bots to stroke their fucking ego.

>>25158266
Is this why they're so upset? The chart cope stopped working?

>>25158988
Besides a few schizos including the one in this thread most #fags in # have already accepted and started kneeling

>>25158815
your chinese and our chinese is different

>>25158988
chart shape was never a valid argument anyway. #fags sabotaged and botted millie for no reason

>>25152718
Why are you here???

>>25158988
>chart cope stopped working
Should've seen it miles away when an unusual stream almost made gold

>>25159079
maybe in your holobiased brain

>>25159099
Only thing that retard proved was how real bot charts looked and we already had proof of that from one of Ikes earliest streams and an Ollie and Ame stream from weeks after that Ike one so hes was just fucking stupid

>>25150841
Justice.

>>25157301
Lmao kill yourself kobofaf

This isn't a "le Niji bad" thing. If 774, VSPO, Noripro, the Sony vtubers or any of the EN small corpos had this happen to them I'd also suspect them of foul play. Stop taking everything so personally Nijiniggers.

>>25154103
Selen. My beloved little nigga...

>>25159309
same but for shitting on numberfags for their crimes

>>25150841
the vtubing world is healing

>>25159309
Yeah, no. Numberniggers have lost all good faith or pretense of impartiality after they admitted to botting chuubas and trying to get them banned. Just accept you LOST a fight that YOU started, you LOSER. Your whores don't stream and it turns out it came back to bite them.

>>25158029
>A big meme
>Solo debut with meme name
>People especting Riku
>People check her out
>Actually enjoy her
>Get a trend
>Artist start their usual jump hop
>Get more eye because of number and fanart
>Get more number
>Get more fan
>Everyone like her
She is one of those lucky vtuber, so its not really weird at all, stop acting like only holo had that amount of fan so its normal when they get big number, cus whether you like it or not nijisanji still has a name to Justify those number

Silver lining is maybe those faggots at cover corpse will finally give extra supports to holos with buried potentials, like new model for irys and more songs for gura

never watched her, what makes her so different from the rest?

Given the CCV for the recent Niji debuts, especially Edengumi, her numbers for the debut were to be expected to be in the upper 10ks. But her incline after the debut was nothing anyone could predict prior to this.

>>25159661
they still won't tell me. she just is

>>25157392
But she is my oshi.

>>25159661
She says desu wa instead of desu

>>25159661
she's a popular amateur voice actor like connur

>>25159502
Nobody maintains and increases their debut numbers at this rate, no matter how hard the marketing goes and how talented or skilled the streamer is. After the debut, the numbers always dip, not increase by TWENTY FUCKING THOUSAND A STREAM.
>lucky
Paying for a facade of success isn't "luck"

>>25159789
/#/ lost. /qa/ lost. SEAniggers lost.

>>25159988
The only ones who lost are retards who support "success" bought with tons of cash. You tribalfags support it only because it benefits your tribe.

I watched her for a bit, but I didn't like her voice.

>>25160083
Based tell those retards the truth

>>25160083
>Bought with tons of cash
Proof next thread?

>>25150939
Almost like your kobo FB_IMG spammer tilted so many people on every side of the VTuber wall, that now that desuwa is coming in with a fury, everyone wants to rub it in

PS: Kobo still broke

>>25159789
Niji always had jp normie on their side (do you forget the koshien and nijisanji music festival 2021), plus salome trend is fill with people that "no longer watch vtuber" and "literal otaku" she is lucky for sure and Will keep growing until she really hit her peak whether you like it or not, so stop Coping, when she decline you can go back shitting the board with the usual nijiEN bait thread

>>25159309
theyre not nijifags or holofags, theyre opportunistic fags who side with whoevers winning
numberfags only care about who ever gets the most numbers, but most humans cant just instantly switch so some of those fags stay defending the now not as big numbers until they mentally can switch over.

if her number stay up after June 8, it will be legit

>>25156147
>it's funny that people will now argue that going viral isn't a good thing anymore
It's never was

Correct me if I'm wrong but is the concept of "These fans only show up for this streamer and don't watch anyone else" really that far fetched? I thought that's what early Chumbuds were especially known for, or even Kobo's fans right now with how she's doing relative to the other IDs.

>>25160359
no, holofans openly admit they don't watch anyone else and within that group there are people that admit they don't watch streams or clips. There are constant threads that try to normalize it paired with the dumb gigachad picture

>>25160359
"Good for me, not for thee"
Seriously, i don't even know how to classify the Gura and Kobo fanbase, they aren't "EN only" or "ID only", they don't give a shit about any other branch apart from their own, and they're practically proud of not knowing anyone else

>>25160359
its variable, the blue loli chuubas fans are more prone to only watch the blue lolis, while everyone elses fanbases vary even more as to if they exclusively watch their oshi or not.
>>25160460
id classify them as uohfags since most of gura and kobos fans are loli loving fags who are loud about it.

Bots

>>25160359
Numberniggers hold on to their feeble rrats easily and believe it applies to everything everywhere, as if it were absolute. Sometimes you just want to watch a single stream in a day and nothing else, or follow a single talent, and there is no right or wrong thing about it, unless you're a numbernigger

>>25160359
>It's only legit when holo gets it
Is not a joke, this is holoboard and holo big bad guy is nijisanji so if you're a nijifan just accept the ass treatment the board gives its easier to use the board that way and enjoy the holocope while it last

>>25158121
>>25158227
Still coping?

>>25160803
>Nijifag retards can't help but constantly shit up the board
>gets a bad response because almost everything they post on the catalogue is a shitpost bait that draw negative response
>holocope holocope holocope holocope
Retard.

>>25161995
You could make that exact same post but replacing "niji" with "holo" and vice-versa.

>>25162093
It's all started by Nijis. It's always started by Nijis. The only reason the Kobo overtaking subs shitposting even started is because Nijis shitposted with Vox overtaking subs first.

>>25161995
holodindu in full display. Non-holos only have like 60 threads on the entire board and about 10 of them are niji related. The overwhelming rest are holodroppings. Just admit you can't stand a non-holo thriving in the vtuber world

>>25162981
What fan of some new indie or whatever wants to come to this shithole and maintain a general with faggot morons like you infesting this place? Seriously, in a clear dogshit bait thread, you think my negative response is because I "can't stand a non-holo thriving in the vtuber world?" Pieces of garbage like you are truly filters for anyone else even thinking about coming here. Unfortunately, it makes the place shit for everyone already here.

>>25150585
Nijisanji = Nijisanji

>>25154157
>>25154699
>>25154815
That many viewers and so few likes. How's the cope Nijisisters? How are the rest of the talents doing by the way?

>>25163155
maybe stop being a holofaggot and forcing your garbage standards on everyone? Maybe stop worshiping numbers and then cry like a bitch when someone takes it away from you? Dumbshits like you try to stiff discussion and going around threads calling non-holo vtubers whores and 2views. Go ahead and explain why you botted millie dumb bitch

>>25162139
Now think again why so-called Nijis shitted up the board with Vox. Just how new are you?

-shes not an e-thot that collabs with 3DPD (vShojo)
-shes not a manwhore pandering to chinese femcels (Luxiem)
-shes not trying to leech off of the above group by getting fucked at hotel rooms for the content (NijiEN girls)
-shes not boring (80% of HoloEN)

Anybody that cares about vTubing as a medium should be cheering for her regardless of their brand affiliation

>>25161995
Lmao, what a hypocrite, holofag are the ones who keep spamming the boards with
>Literal who
>Why did nijisanji fail
>Cuck
>3k views is a bad number
>2view
>Pomu bait thread
Before Luxiem debuted, and now you are angry when they shitpost you back??? What kind of joke is this, start with niji my ass, even before luxiem nijiEN get shitpost everyday and they can't do anything because they have nothing now they get something and fuck you back, you don't like it, now fuckoff, if you can't see your tribe lose then fuckoff or stay in your general

>>25150841
JP dominating EN whores, doesnt matter which company

>>25159697
nijiniggers setting themselves up for the fall again, I see

>>25163962
But Nijis started it by calling themselves #1 vtuber agency when they were #1
Thats why we need to numberfag 4 years later... Numbers are a joke.

>>25163367
>so few likes
Forty four thousand
Anon?

>>25162139
anon either youre a newfag or such an oldfag that you forgot what you experienced after the cultural tide changes.
outside of shitposters who are just fucking around, numberfags who are genuine about they love for big numbers have been using holos numbers to gloat for years at this point, the vox shit is just a counter movement now that those same numberfags no longer have their ego booster toy to feel superior with, now prey to the same insecurities that they held over others.
people warned them but they feel so good having some sort of objective metric to feel superior they never listened and sucked themselves off.
the shitposts fed into this by making those idiots think they had more people on their side when most of the shitposters are just opportunistic trolls wholl troll anyone who shows their weakness, directly or indirectly.
>>25164070
marketing is marketing anon, a ton of products in the world say theyre number 1 but never really back it up with anything and sometimes the general consensus is they're the worst or okay at best, niji at least had the numbers at the time to make such a claim.

its ok tribalbros when salome's numbers stabilize you guys can go back to your safe space where you pretend you deserve credit for [brand]'s success even though you're not an employee or investor there.

>>25164070
>yeah, nijis celebrating a milestone is numberfagging. They even went around saying not to watch any other vtubers other than niji
-some holoschizo

>>25150537
based
I watch Haachama, i watch Gura, i watch Nijis, and indies.
1view, 2view, 3view , corpos and indies alike. 9CCV or 54k CCV? Who the fuck cares if stream is fun.
https://litter.catbox.moe/vj6flf.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/kfwwbn.png

>>25164223
>>25164315
Sorry if my post about Niji numberfagging wasn't irony enough.
The whole "b-but Niji started it" argument is bullshit.
Numberfagging is stupid no matter who does it. Numbers don't equal quality. I wouldn't call the bible the best book ever written and white christmas is not the best song in existence despite having the best numbers. Numbers are a joke.

>>25164223
remember when /vt/ wasn't even a thing yet and every holo thread on /jp/ had nijis just constantly talking about how they were the number 1 in japan and holo will always be number 2

ITT: Holofags starving over eating humble pie
I do hope our more artistic anons are ready for DESUWA's lapping of Kobo

>>25164678
never happened because the /jp/ niji thread kept to themselves and gatekept anyone that couldn't speak/read japanese. Quit recycling garbage that the asacoco spammer told you

>>25159789
funny, isn't that the opposite of what you lot say about the new blue cunny? why change your position now?

To gas chambers, all of you fagots

All the newfags and americunts in this thread is so amusing, keep em coming boys

>>25155742
Can't wait to shame you after she reach 200k next week

>>25164925
>No Desu-wa
You're teasing my balls anon

>>25164543
oh i knew you were being sarcastic because of the 4 years thing was obvious enough, but i felt like it was a good springboard for a point and sorta forgot it was an irony post in the first place.
im so use to treating shitposting, good or bad, as serious talking points because i tend to go with the idea that even if the person im talking to is being ironic, theres probably someone out there who believes it on some level, so to debate it regardless of irony allows for people to think about the point i make more, as sometimes we need to be reminded of why we take things as a given.

>>25155742
>Niji was reclining in every branch
this claim is incorrect though, just because they still get smaller number than holos and kuzuha isn't the numberking anymore it doesn't mean their overall viewership went down. the numbers from last year were stable and from the beginning of this year were a small incline considering the whole company

Ill hold up until she's verified to be unicorn friendly.

>>25150367
You fools! Don't you see? This is a ploy by Nijisanji to entice investors in buying their stocks! Don't you see? When nijisanji culled branches to make it look nice when they opened their IPO and now THIS? They hired a VA and they botted it out so that Investors will flock to buy the stock when they see the /#/. You holoniggers and nipplesanji didn't see the truth because I who has ascended have seen the truth!

>>25164774
>you lot say
I'm a 2-view indie viewer. Why do you tribalfags always assume that if someone criticizes your ethots with avatars it must be the rival tribe?

>>25154661
so she's just like any popular youtuber/streamer.
but you were supposed to explain what makes her stand out, not what makes her fit in.

>>25165633
no, everyone without a tribal retarded brain know that
Company going IPO soon and suddenly one of their newly "debuted" talent got insane numbers blowing out not just their own records but all other companies
this just sounds like chinkery bullshit to me

>>25164773
he doesn't even know the asacoco spammer
probably some EOP from mid 2021

Why does it matter who wins or loses? Salome having 130k+ views isn't going to affect you enjoying your chuuba's stuff.

>>25157753
pekora graduated for 2 months

>>25166584
scummy practice to boot false number for a IPO scams should no be tolerated

>>25150367
It's over anon...we lost. We must bow to our new niji overlords...I've already subscribed to something called "pomu"...I feel so dirty

>>25165944
>falseflagging
schizo tactics get so stale sometimes

this is a win for all vtuber fans. more competition means more content. more content means more entertainment, and i want to be entertained anons. anyone who disagree are corporate shills and should just file for employment in those companies.

Timely reminder that tribalfaggotry is bad for you even if you think you're just being ironic or whatever

>>25166875
unfair competition by backhanded tactic like using bots like this will only lead to other companies being forced to use the same method, which will not increase contents or the quality

>>25166699
Ewww kill youself

>>25166613
Imaging Pekora returning only to play Biohazard 7

>>25167030
A wise man once said:
I am Pomu, you are Pomu, we are Pomu

>>25166094
Chances are that what stands out isn't her, but her audience.
In Japan, her debut trended alongside "endoscopy," and the "WTF" factor of that probably attracted a lot of tourists from outside the vtuber community.
And since she's actually good, many of them stuck around, and since crowds attract crowds, more came over and also stuck around, at least for now.
You're basically seeing a whole bunch of people getting their first taste of a good vtuber, like what happened to a bunch of Holos in 2020.

>>25166697
>Virtual signalling and moralfagging over a rrat
Holy shit /vt/, never change.

Nice one ninji, now let's see you do it again.

>>25167104

everyone with a brain can see it is clearly not rrat

>>25167267
Keep lying to yourself while everyone else lives in reality.

>>25167384
lol you should apply that to yourself first

>>25167267
Funny thing about rrats - the people perpetuating them think they are genius and stumbled across some great universal truth ahead of the ignorant sheeple. While the normal people see it as the rrat that it is.

>>25167593
But it all makes perfect sense. Niji releases a new liver and bots their numbers all to mind break the holobros... Uhm I mean all to make a good appearance for the IPO and they just got enough to beat Miko's numbers. Very suspicous!!
No one has ever watched Nijisanji.

>>25156968
When they purposely dont attache their company name to her channel you know thay is suspish

>>25167434
No amount of "no you" will change how dumb and bitter you sound when you attribute any success to a great conspiracy.

>>25167715
Know what else makes perfect sense to the ones who believe it? Flat earth, Illuminati, moon landing being a hoax.

>>25167715
>mind break the holobros...
beside this I don't see why the rest is not plausible
>No one has ever watched Nijisanji.
sureee that's why 100k of her viewers vanished after she finished her stream right?

>>25166902
Oh hey, that's my post. I was tipsy when I wrote it, wasn't being entirely serious. I ended up checking out NijiEN and becoming an aloupeep, and am now happily exploring the rest of Nijisanji.

>>25167593
nobody is saying anything about being normies or not you retard
as I said everyone who has a brain, aka normal people, aka normies are also questioning these numbers unlike some brainlet tribalfags like you who keep defending your corpo and take everything they feed you at face value

>>25167860
>>25167859
corruptions and scummy business practices are very common and should be made exampled, why the fuck are you acting like this is some stupid shit like moon hoax?

>>25168073
>nobody is saying anything about being normies or not you retard
>But my rrat is totally what normies think
lol. Have a free (You)

>>25168190
Because it is some stupid shit like moon hoax. At least moon hoax crazies try to supply evidence for their case, even if it's faulty. Here it's just "it's botted because it is also IPO".

en has gura
id hes kobo
jp has salome
which region is getting the next Ultratuber?

>>25150367
I'm sorry.... we lost anon. We got to rise the next generation to the high of highs

>>25150841
>based kayfabing talented JP chuuba mogging lazy EN whores
You are witnessing a huge win for chuubafans

>>25168073
holy schizo

>>25168302
>it's just "it's botted because it is also IPO".
convenience for you to look past everything else in this thread

If Hololive wants to compete they will really need to hire established ecelebs for the next gen.

>>25168696
...anon

>>25168340
You forgot
Australia has Sana
Austria has Kiara
... Sad....

>>25159789
Its not weird for Twitch streamers to keep growing over time. Look at some of the CCV for the VShojo girls over time, or Hasan whenever he covers important news.

Desuwa is probably just capturing a bigger audience than the idol/GFE niche that Hololive focused on That probably came at the expense of more mainstream success.

It's not bots she's just blew up out of no where, Like a meme or a popular song that goes viral.
There's no explanation it just happens.

Her energy reminds me of Kizuna. I bet people miss that kind of high-energy and fun streamer. The only thing that's missing is the subtitles.

>>25167970
If that's the case I hope you're doing well in general. Happy youre having fun doing/watching whatever

>>25168849
I mean for EN. Council was a total flop since they hired small people.

>>25164456
Most based post on /vt/

>>25168859
>Australia has Sana
no flattened by Luca

>>25168859
>kiara
>>>>>sana

>>25169197
what if Salome IS kizuna AI
it could explain the experience

>>25151335
>but can somehow understand why they watch someone who says “I’m horny” every 2 minutes.

>>25150537
based, except i dont watch anybody and just come here to make you fags mad

eh, I can see the appeal of a ojou-sama type anime girl playing games. Would actually kill for a snobby/posh type EN tuber to exist in the same caliber. Kronii was so close with that narcissism angle, but she let it go and became boring now.

>>25151116
It's weird how obsessive /vt/ became about "beating" Nijisanji after that. They used to never talk about Nijisanji, now it's just nonstop obsession.

>>25163444

>>25164456
Based