/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>2507788
what does "temporarily" imply?

>>2507871
The group can come back with a new gen but the current members are graduating; for now the branch is being put on hold until further notice, like if hololive had left open the possibility for a HoloCN gen 3 after graduating 1 and 2. I think, anyway, I got that from the comments so I could be wrong. After writing that out it sounds kinda retarded ngl, like I kind of get it if circumstances change and IN becomes profitable, but you might as well just graduate them all and let it be that unless you definitely plan on another gen for some unholy reason.

>>2507788
Why is vtubing not profitable in India?

>>2507788
Theyre getting low-tier Bollywood stars when they relaunch NijiIN

>>2508172
They all know English its pointless

>>2508172
indians love real women

>>2508172
Because there isn't a strong weeb culture in india and 70% of the population are poo un loo dirt farmers making less than 2 USD a day.

Ichikara didn't do theor reps and fell for the beeg population = beeg money fallacy

>>2510385
They already had an office in India for English PR, hiring some streamers made sense.

>>2510435
I think outside of Noor though it didn't really pan out. Wasn't she said to even be a recruiter or something?

>>2507871
IN is suspended, they move to EN, IN is reinstated, they come back to IN
clearly

>>2507788
the loopers

>>2508172
Because they have Bollywood.
Also, I don't hear much about India in relation to video games, whether that be developers or gamers, or streaming (any Indian streamer?). The video game industry underperforms in the country, relatively speaking, and leans heavily on mobile games. Lack of interest in video games and streaming obviously wouldn't bode well for domestic interest in vtubers.

>>2507788
>temporarily suspended
>graduate at the same time
what

>>2508172
Its more profitable to be some scammer trying to trick old people into buying you apple gift cards

>>2513309
doesnt make sense

>>2507788
WHY WERE THEY NOT REDEEMED?

>>2513309
>>2513432
They're leaving the door open to maybe reopen it someday if Niji becomes larger globally, or they get new IN talents who have a global appeal

>>2513309
>>2508126
The branch is suspended, the members are graduating. Suspended as in on hold, not as in a punishment.

>>2507788
I'll always hate Nijisanji for that, Holostar has much less numbers and views and they didnt get thanos snapped by Yagoo. Unless Niji's was any actual costs to keeping their operations up they litterally just numberfagged all their Shubas out of existance for no reason.

>TLDR Yagoo is chad, Riku is bad

>>2507788
>Indian Vtubers "graduated"
>Not Redeemed or went to buy apple gift cards

>>2515856
DO
NOT
REDEEM

>>2515915
BITCH ARE YOU PROSITUTE?

>>2515807
No, Holostars doesn't have less viewers than Niji India.

>>2510985
Indonesia is even lower on your list though and there have been numerous successful Indonesian vtubers in hololive, nijisanji, maha5, and indie. Not as big as JP obviously but the Indonesian ones do pretty darn well in their own right. I doubt this is the reason.

>>2508172
Regular streamers are far more popular. These numbers might look low but it's 1:20 AM here and most people aren't watching.

>>2515807
NijiIN would struggle to get over 100 viewers. Holostars is doing much better than that.

>>2516129
Indonesia is about the same size on that graph with like 1/5 of the population. I won't pretend I understand market research but surely density must be of some importance.

>>2516168
>here
Indianon, do you guys actually wear turbans indoors like the first guy on your pic?

I'm out of the loop, why are they graduating?

>>2516227
Only Sikhs do.

>>2515807
Why would you try to blatantly lie? I've got ENvtuber indie friends with better numbers than Noor and she seems to be their best member.

>>2516240
No reason was disclosed, but the supposition is because their front in India used to handle their English social media but that's being transferred to another office that will handle the EN branch.

>>2508172
Indians have only gotten wide internet access relatively recently and the only thing they use it for is for asking for bob and vagene pics

>>2508172
Indians don't spend money. Wrestling companies have been finding this out when tens of millions of Youtube views from mark-ass/sex starved Pajeets never translate to ticket sales or subscribers.

>>2516223
Your assessment is partially correct, mostly because your second sentence isn't as big a factor in the overall picture of the issue of Indonesia vs India.

Indonesia happens to trade very heavily with Japan, being their top 3 trade partner at around 9% of import/export, which is the core market for the VTuber industry. Japan doesn't even crack the top 10 with India. Economic trade is also a vehicle for cultural trade, and Indonesia seem to be a relatively large consumer of ACG entertainment, which of course Japan is a large produce of.

>>2510985
Dude why would you show this? The chinks are going to get butthurt and spam your ass for several months, delete it while you can.

>>2508172
Can the average person of curry even afford internet?

>>2517715
No, they watch yt while talking to your grandmother about hackers stealing her IP

won't they "debut" first then?

>>2516129
The gaming market for India heavily leans on mobile games. I don't think that's the case with Indonesia.
The gaming market in the country is PC oriented because of DOTA, which throughout the years established an audience with the right tech at home to enjoy streams in the first place, and there's a significant interest in anime as well.

>>2508241
Disgusting

>>2508172
vtubers no show bobs and vegeen

>>2508241
imagine if they had to pay $5 every time they want to say "pls show bobs and poosay"

>>2516227
turbans are specifically a sikh thing

>>2524396
Sikhs are based because the fucking hate muslims lmao.

>>2510385
even with 70% being actual street shitters that still leaves about the entire population of the US left over

>>2522687
>bobs and vagene

>>2516129
indonesia is a special case when it comes to weebs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NC_jrjlG9o

I feel so bad for them, man. seems like regular streaming's more popular (not sure if for indian women too), but I hope all three keep streaming in some way or continue their careers. as an aside, Noor's design was really fucking good, who designed her? the fucking Niji wiki doesnt mention the artists.

>>2525387
There are some Nijis who don't have their artists disclosed, likely due to those artists having outside contracts that prevent it.

>>2507788
You sometimes forget that even if they are larger than Hololive, they are equally if not more incompetant. Noor had such a great design too.

>>2507788
pretty sure I'm being retarded but the wording is implying that they plan on having NijiIN around in some form

>>2518491
Nah, Indonesian gaming market is dominated by mobile, since console and PC is rather expensive for general people there.
It just Indonesian weeb culture is big especially from 80's to 2000's generation kids.

>>2516240
Probably because they were boring and couldn't even get close to 100 viewers a stream.

>>2527584
It's amazing how affordable the hobby can be when all you play is DOTA2. And when there's another game you really want to play, you pirate it.

I read somewhere that India treated PC components as luxury items, so they get taxed heavily, which is the main reason of why there are not many Indians having a PC in their home. Almost all of them using smartphone to access the internet.

>>2529686
You don't need to pirate them if you can just use VPN to go to Argentina.

>>2517715
Yeah. Internet here is dirt cheap.

>>2529732
High import duties which is meant to compel manufacturers to set up a plant in India if they want to sell it for low prices. That's what china did for its smartphone business in India and they now rule the roost with cheap prices. No PC components manufacturers see any demand for PCs in India so all these imported stuff cost an arm and a leg for your common Indian consumer. I think things will change in future. Laptops/PCs are rising in demand as most parents want their child to become an IT whizz these days.

>>2524438
Are you twelve?

>>2510985
Poos play a lot of games but they're predominantly mobile since they're all poor as fuck but smartphones are somehow accessible. A lot of IN esports orgs just have PUBG mobile teams and shit like that.

>>2533248
>poor as fuck
It's more like PCs are costly as fuck in India. They cost way more than what they cost in first world countries. Smartphones used to be like this too but china flooded their market with cheap smartphones.

>>2533199
mashallah you stoned him too hard

>>2527046
It's PR speak to leave the door open, realistically it's been fully canned

>>2508172
Because they are based
Hate anime, Western, sjw and fecesminist

>>2516129
Indonesia is cheapsake and pirate

>>2533199
You going to ask him on a date or something?

>>2510385
This would be true in 2015, but since 2018 anime has been on the incline in India. Especially with surging video game interest and availability of cheap gaming equipment of AMD cards. They are delving into anime games, and Demon Slayer is somewhat popular in India.
>>2516861
False. Check playboard and there are YT streamers in the bottom-middle level of revenue. Their stream culture is similar to the French and some EU regions, they're close knit and have no idea of streamers outside India. FB Gaming reports a lot of streamers are getting healthy revenue from India and SEA. YT gaming also have growing Indian streamers playing shit games like PUBG and also get regular superchats, but maybe not the type that would splurge on akasupas.

What you have to take away is that, India has the population to back up those investments. Niji simply were out of touch that India has gajillion language across their tribes, there is no "Indian" language, but only commonly speak English. But English alone can't pull in the viewers, due to differences in culture within the country.

Unlike Indonesia, they all speak Indonesian with modicum English skills, Cover made the right move to go for ID branch first.
Luckily, there are some Indian viewers that liked Okayu and Towa, and that one pajeet keep SCing Towa Valorant streams. Niji could've hold on a bit longer.

>>2516168
>8.94 billion viewers
Jesas.

>>2538680
cope

>>2525001
>what do you mean you don't use golden gundams as a wedding dowry

>>2510985
I'm betting my ass way more indians are playing vidya, but they're either playing f2p or torrenting shit.

>>2515807
>>TLDR Yagoo is chad, Riku is bad
Keeping deadweight isnt a chad move

>>2510385
Are the Spanish, French and Russian markets worth it? Should they try NijiEsp, NijiFR, NijiRU?

>>2539784
maybe, NijiES would make a lot more sense than IN tbqh.

>>2539784
>Spanish
Only if Niji has plans for a dragon ball z chuuba.

>>2538680
>Niji simply were out of touch that India has gajillion language across their tribes, there is no "Indian" language, but only commonly speak English. But English alone can't pull in the viewers, due to differences in culture within the country.
This issue can't be fixed. You can't expect them to do Niji tamil, Niji Malayalam, Niji Bengali etc. Just going for Hindi and expecting pan India is retarded in its own right as Hindi speakers are from the most underdeveloped parts of India and you're basically alienating more than half of India.

>>2539784
NijiES/HoloES is just a matter of waiting now, Spics alone beat the average burger when it comes to weeb levels. it's market waiting to be exploited to it's full extent.

>>2535962
hate plumbing, basic hygiene and health regulations too.

>>2539784
>Russian
The fact they simp for Botan when she only knows a few sentences and looks like adidas would say yes. Their love for her overpowers their shitty wages

>>2539600
This is odd, like seeing the Saudi king holding a body pillow

>>2539784
WACTOR had some success with the spanish speaking audience I think it´s a fair bet.

>>2544438
I know there are spic weebs, but a whole entire branch for them when niji's JP branch is already huge seems out of the question.

>>2507788
I'm trying to recall a proverb about a crow shedding his feathers to look like a dove then ends up naked with neither white nor black feathers but i can't remember the exact wording

Motherfuckers should let Noor keep her model and go indie at least

>>2539784
None of those markets will be worth it profit wise

>>2554287
ES, maybe depending on how well they marketed them but yeah
>ichikara marketing their talent

>>2554368
Unless literal boat loads of ES monopoly money is sent then no. It would be hard for them to break even let alone make a worthwhile profit.

>>2554397
>ES is just zimbargentina
If they pandered to the tacos and/or the spainards they could make a profit

>>2554478
>>2554478
>Mexico and Spain will fund NijiES
Cant even say the last time I saw a MEX superchat on any stream at all, probably because of the fact the majority of them are living penny to penny anyways. Any other SA country would just be ARS tier as well. It would be a miracle for them to make back their money and provide the profit margin that Nijisanji is looking for.

>>2554620
>I saw a MEX superchat on any stream
Not on any Niji anon, but that has more to do with Nijis general lack of overseas presence

>>2508172
The better question is why did Nijisanji make a branch for India and not for America?

>>2563285
untapped market so they thought they could monopolize it

>Noor's avatar is going to be lost forever
fugg

Now that I've had a few days for this to settle in my head, I think the silver lining here is that if any of them want to continue streaming, then at least they won't constantly be pigeonholed by their brand of being an Indian vtuber. And even if they don't, it's probably going to be good for their own mental health to no longer have
>the numbers
hanging over their heads.

>>2574641
>And even if they don't, it's probably going to be good for their own mental health to no longer have
>>the numbers
>hanging over their heads.

If they keep trying to be vtubers, I don't think the numbers ever really go away.

>>2508172
India hasnt evolved to weeb age yet, they are still obsessed with bob and veganja photos to the extent that military officials will trade their secrets for few pictures.

>>2580032
True, but when you have a corporation looking over your shoulder at them too, there's just added pressure there. Not to mention that when you're with the corporation you'll always have your numbers get directly compared to others in the same corporation, fair or not.

Wasn't Noor doing alright?
Why not just keep her?

>>2580491
She's a staff in their foreign department

>>2580491
Where would they put her? I can't imagine that she would accept anyway, since it would be a huge middle finger to Aadya and Vihaan, and I like to think she cares more about their friendship than streaming. Especially since she's given up on doing anything but streaming Genshin.

>>2507788
I hope the Niji expirience doesn't drive Aadya away from vtubing. She should try going indie after this, I think if she still has the energy to hit maximum gas (streaming 3+ times a week) she can make it.
NijiIN is probably one of those cases you can study in business class on what not to do.

>>2581561
I hope so too. She didn't really even seem to care too much about chasing trends within Nijisanji anyway, so I think she could continue without much change to her "style". A big concern would be copyright issues, I have no idea how indies handle that.

>>2581561
A lot of people here are saying that she and Vihaan didn't streamed much but only Vihaan was lagging behind. She was actually streaming even more than Noor and have a total of 168 VODs compared to Noor's 123, but failed to get Jap viewers because she isn't trilingual like Noor+her model is kinda lackluster. I really liked her and feel bad for her.

>>2582975
>A big concern would be copyright issues, I have no idea how indies handle that.
Indies don't have large corporate fanbases playing console wars. They can just duck their heads and go through.
I don't think an indy ever got big enough to have a permission arc.

>>2581561
Aadya love!

I'll miss Noor so fucking much.

>>2508172
As a crossboard /pw/ chad, I can tell you without any shadow of a doubt that India does not draw dimes. Views from India are worthless.

>>2508172
Indianchads don’t give a shit about ecelebs posing as le cute anime girls online

>>2508172
they only want hot aunties on fb