/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

miyu won the first game!

>>25944812
silencing collab friends is an awful punishment

>>25944436
honestly, i don't consider /asp/ies my competitors. I can't even compete with them in the first place and i'd be thankful enough if any of them wanted to collab with me. I'd be okay with just being friends.

>>25889070
Who?

>>25944981
why does everyone treat collabs like something special? most small vtubers are collab whores and would collab with any shitter that bothers to ask

What's going on? I legitimately don't follow a single aspie

>>25945182
it was posted after someone had raided into azu who raided into ain who raided into leon, i believe

>25944436
>competitor
That's your first mistake, considering them your competition

>>25945353
Most people enjoy collaborations between people who have similar (basically the same) viewerbase. It's different than those random colalbs between strangers because a majority of the audience is familiar with both people.

>>25944436

>>25944981
I don't consider them competitors simply because they can't compete with me. Kek.

>>25945563
i don't know what it is but there seems to be no shortage of literally who males that sound like shit collabing with femchuubas that seem to take their hobby seriously enough to invest in decent equipment.
i don't know how anyone can stand those shitty headset mics that males seem to love

>>25945513
there is a finite amount of viewers and a high chance of your streams overlapping because everyone wants to stream in us prime. that else would it be?

>>25945765
None of the males I watch sound like that, choose better guys

>>25945837
i do but grooming a chuuba to choose better collab partners might be harder

>>25945837
Which males do you watch

Hes is scary...

>>25945837
they probably sound exactly like that

>>25946134
From /asp/ only Elliott
From /wvt/ Hal, Woozle, Bloom, Leon

>>25946188
to this day i thought that she is a male

>>25946361
i didn't even know that elliot is /asp/. he is too good to be

Rise and shine, Ain!

>>25946526
he started in these threads when they were /auds/ and bloom and woozle started in these threads last summer, too

>want to rant about streams
>know that the menhera chuubas will see the posts
there is no way to escape the suffering

https://discord.gg/7Z48Q6yu
https://discord.gg/7Z48Q6yu
https://discord.gg/7Z48Q6yu
https://discord.gg/7Z48Q6yu

aspcord!

>>25946651
Do it anyways

>>25946713
i will not make a new account or use my alts to join a 4chan server

>>25946526
we all start somewhere anon i still remember this comment back when i first posted my link for critique (though i've been around since the first /auds/ thread)
>>1274574
>If your voice was a picture I'd want you to crank the saturation up a bit, if that makes any sense.
i think this was the comment that probably stuck out to me the most from back then because it was worded in such a silly sounding way

For all the /asp/ femanons here kawaii productions is open for auditions now. They have 2 generations and their numbers are good for a small corpo, also recently they did a campaing to get 3d for their talents that got more than 100k so they have a few oil barons there.

>>25946849
fuck off with your scams

>>25946766
there is no point. it will just trigger their menhera but nothing will change or improve.
maybe people are so desperate to become corpos because they are self aware and know that they wont get anywhere alone. they know that they could do well if someone else took care of all the technical stuff and planned all their streams for them

>>25946544
UWAAAAA
I wish I did not need or want sleep to operate

>>25947092
honestly if i were a chuuba linking myself here i would want the tough love and criticism

mash has the best voice of /asp/ femchuubas

>>25947092
>>25947605
Same here. I know I need to improve to get anywhere.
I am menhera, but that’s over skinwalking.

Not like this Miyu...

>>25945811
>there is a finite amount of viewers
and that amount numbers in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions if you really want to get technical on the amount of Twitch viewers. Vtubers have barely started to tap into the larger portion of Twitch this year.

Even if we're ONLY talking about viewers who specifically want to watch vtubers (despite the crossover between IRL viewers and Vtubers getting bigger and bigger), the number is still growing. 3 years ago the biggest chuubas peaked at 2k, the next year that doubled, and this year it's doubled again. You act like there's only a few hundred viewers out there when in reality there's as many as you as a content creator can reach even if we're ONLY talking people who are already interested in chuubas.

>>25947706
She should have gone full loli design and try and take fans from those retarded self-sabotaging lolichuubas that insult their lolicon fanbase

>>25946526
>single digit viewer average when you discount the raids he's constantly getting from friend
No I think he fits right in.

>>25947914
He's cute and too good for this place

>>25948008
Still fits in perfectly fine. It's crazy to think someone around since /aud/ is doing about as good as some of the chuubas just starting out in /asp/

>>25948055
Well, he does have a full time job.

>>25947857
vtubers are a niche. they will never get the viewers from the top male streamers that are making content for a completely different target audience

>>25947554
Hope you had a nice dream, birb.

>>25947914
i know this is bait but i've been delightfully surprised that i've been able to hold over double digits consistently with or without raids in recent months since i struggled to for over a year but seeing the non raid number go up is nice
>>25948104
it's not really much of an excuse since many other chuubas have full time jobs and do much better
it is what it is though and i'll be happy with my own small improvements!

>>25948309
I dont catch your stream very often but you're a cool dude

>>25948247
Did not dream this time around! Most of my dreams are bizarre or bad though so it's better than usual. I appreciate the thought though :)

Rate the collab!

>>25948309
Teach me category theory teachu

>>25948476
some scuff but pretty good otherwise

I see Ain has reached Cadence levels of selfposting where she just has discord dm tier conversations in the thread

im sorry about all the scuff... my computer isnt very good.. still trying to figure out audio issues im really sorry... i had lots of fun and i hope everyone did too... doing collabs makes me nervous.. but if theres any tips or criticism anyone has here about me please let me knkw i really want to improve

>>25948476
Vod?

>>25948701
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1501165564

>>25948781
Thansk

>>25948476
why?

>>25948681
stop asking for feedback on 4chan

>>25948453
thank you anon i am sure (You) are cool too!
i do get that i have weird streaming hours since my timeframe to stream is very limited; i've noticed that i have a lot of regulars who are on the other side of the planet so they can usually catch my weekend streams but aren't typically present for weekday streams and that's just how things go sometimes
>>25948504
it's not on the test so we'll skip that lesson for now

>>25948216
Iron Mouse, Veibae, and Snuffy already share viewership with a lot of those big streamers, and a lot of those big streamers have viewers that watch Vtubers.

Again, vtubing isn't some small niche "deep weeb" only hobby any more. I know it's hard to believe but as someone that doesn't only watch Vtubers, I see it a lot. Iron Mouse has almost 9k CCV so you can't tell me this is some niche ELITE WEEB ONLY hobby any more. That's more than some people who have streamed on Twitch SUCCESSFULLY for 6+ years and are much bigger names, yet you've got chuubas coming up and matching and even beating their numbers despite just taking off a couple of years ago.

>>25948931
Fuck off

>>25948975
none of those have 100k viewers or even half of that. competitive gamers and random independent males have

>>25948681
You're perfect and I love you

>>25949053
no. miyu is fucking stupid for doing it when she can't handle anything mean without having a breakdown. and even if people tell her what is wrong she just menheraposts instead of implementing the changes

>>25949087
>none of those have 100k viewers or even half of that.
>competitive gamers and random independent males have
Look I'm not trying to call you out but you don't seem to know a lot about Twitch. On average (outside of special events), no single streamer has 100k CCV. You've got a few that hover in the 70k, but that's about peak as far as pure average goes.

I don't really understand your argument, they still share a large and ever-growing portion of those audience with this demographic they'll supposedly "never get" because they're targeting a "completely different audience". All the top chuubas have great crossover with some of the top streamers like Asmongold, XQC, etc especially Veibae with how closer she is to "twitch culture" than the rest of them and Sodapoppin isn't even her biggest audience similarity.

If you have content that appeals to that demographic, they'll watch. You're living in 2019 and need to get out of the bubble.

>>25948216
>vtubers are a niche
a growing niche thats already tapped into "normie" twitch culture via collaboration with some of the bigger Just Chatting streamers.

Voice training to sound like a girl is fucking hard

>>25949689
its a lot easier to spend that time learning to create entertaining content and networking instead of trying to sound like a girl so that your voice matches a replaceable model

>>25949533
vtubers are too scared of shit like dmca to do what streamers like xqc does

>>25948531
this is far from Cadence tier

>>25949742
This, I'd rather watch a babi be entertaining than a tranny that'll never sound like a woman

>>25949742
It's a lot easier to just do nothing than vtube, what's your point?

>>25948531
I appreciate chuuba posts.

>>25949787
The only DMCA-worthy thing he does is watch anime or tv shows once in a while, otherwise it's just Youtube videos that anyone can watch and Youtubers don't care enough to DMCA to begin with. It's a non-issue.

>>25950004
My point is that between the two routes in this discussion that still involve Vtubing, you're picking the more difficult one that likely won't pay off whatsoever instead of the normal one that's got a lot better chance, because now you have to do voice training and on top of that still be entertaining while actively offputting a large portion of your potential audience.

>>25949787
what is there to be afraid of he just watched jubilee, plays random games, watch videos and gambles.

>>25950295
If someone doesn't want to watch me because they don't like my voice that's fine. If I don't have the channel I want and do the things that I enjoy and want to do, it won't be worth doing to me.

>>25949787
What are you even talking about?

>>25950454
then do it instead of posting on an anonymous forum you retard. That's what's most annoying about trannies, they always want validation without putting the effort first. Go, do your voice training and come back bragging when you hit affiliate, otherwise fuck off.

>>25950622
All they said was that the voice training was hard, what the fuck is this hardcore projecting you're doing?

>>25950622
Did you hit affiliate?

>>25949988
You only think that because Cadence is a man

>>25951004
she isn't?

I feel like I've lost my momentum. I've regressed back into silence.

>>25951677

>>25951683
Dog...

I would like to request a copypastable qrd of the petiteneet situation so that the /wvt/ shillposters stop linking him please.

>>25952180
They didnt do anything so no

>>25952180
that's him posting himself

>>25946188
Sorry for scaring you anon!
I know my personality is a bit much but I swear I'm not that scary and I don't bite much ٩(｡•́‿•̀｡)۶

>>25952572
lemme suckle your toes like udders with the sweat being the replacement milk

How do you anons feel about male vtubers with high pitch voices?

>>25953168
I like it, they cool

>>25953168
I dont see a problem unless their personalities are annoying with that voice

>>25953168
pure sex. Do not listen to anons that think anything above Vox range is ngmi. They don't even watch male chuubas.

Where is this from?

>>25953168
The only people who watch male vtubers are homosexuals who want to have sex with the girliest males so you're actually better off than Joe Average

>>25953602
visage hate

>>25953602
Must be someone posing as the SJW grifter, probably just DMs or something.

>>25953821
visage olev

>>25953602
His real tag isn't even visage.

>>25953168
We need more of them because I'm fucking tired of hearing male tubers with deep voices or trying to sound deeper than they are

>>25953168
If you mean high pitched like papi they are cringe. Do you mean high pitched feminine voice?

>>25954089
This. I vastly prefer men with higher voices.

>>25953602
Visage kill yourself

>>25953602
Okay, I can't defend this shithead anymore.

>>25953602
I want to be in a discord server and gossip about /asp/ with Nyanners...

>>25954732
How does that change anything? That's the exact reason given in the great thread revolt against petiteneet. The "drama"/doxxing of taiga

>>25954736
She hates people from here so good luck

>>25954844
I'm obviously talking about Visage.

>>25954844
I wouldn't call leaking a discord call doxxing, it's still a shitty thing to do when you're doing it and selling it to a guy that's stalked him and gone as far as flying across the world to his home town just to intimidate him though.

>>25954937
Obviously, but he kicked/banned him because of the drama and everyone telling him to. Why does him outright stating it change your opinion?

>>25953602
why did he ban lance and gael though?

Knowing nothing about the drama is wild what the fuck is nyanners doing here

>>25955004
Because he's interacting with a bigger piece of shit than petiteneet.

Hey there /asp/, I'm an aspiring vtuber whos looking to design their own model but I'm kinda lacking ideas. I recorded my own voice below to ask as to what kind of model you think would suit my voice. The first recording is me purely speaking into a mic I haven't fully figured out so theres some odd cracks and popping noises in some parts. The second one is a little practice cover of anus tart i did on my phone voice memos on the ukulele. I apologize in advance for the awkward strumming patterns and the stream in the background, I am still a novice at the ukulele. Thanks.
https://vocaroo.com/1aCH8l8dQskS
https://vocaroo.com/1ikmlChbZ1sg

>>25955090
Don't talk about my oshi like that you cocksucker

>>25955075
Is that how easy you take a picture as proof? You would need to match up discord UID. That is more than likely not actually nyanners. That picture is apparently from viewercord.

>>25955106
vroid with hoodie

>>25955075
You do know you can change your discord name, right?

>>25955106
>what kind of model you think would suit my voice
Something extraordinarily homosexual

>>25955142
The only cock being sucked here is her boyfriend's, cuck.

>>25955106
You give me yellow dog man vibes, too smart type for being a bimbo but cute guy. Ikemen to the soft side, tall male brown hair soft clothing, and something cute to hold maybe. Ikemen but in the I'm really cute but I don't know it side of stuff (sorry for the word vomint, hope it makes sense)

Is it bad manners to join another chuuba's discord server when you yourself are a chuuba? I've only ever interacted as a viewer, but part of me feels like it would be lowkey advertising and they might not like it

>>25955198
Why would people lie in /asp/ duh

>>25955287
She's been sucking her boyfriend's cock since 2012 and that hasn't stopped her from being my oshi

>>25955327
Nah it's not bad manners I wouldn't mind personally

>>25955327
If this worries you, just don't explicitly shill yourself unless its in a promotion channel. Otherwise you should be alright, don't worry too much and have fun supporting others.

>>25955327
I'm in multiple other chuuba discords and no ones seemed to mind. As long as you're not blatantly shilling yourself outside of any promotion channel or being a dick no one will really care. Have fun and make friends anon!

>>25955392
What kind of life experiences result in a person becoming this emasculated?

>>25955327
What a stupid question, take a look at any here chuuba discord and it's full of other chuubas

>>25955611
no need to be mean about it

>>25955106
nothing immediately sticks out as a fitting archetype, which is good because you can probably play any character you want. prob not something ultra masculine though because you got a slight passive-ish nerdy tone

Which aspies would make a cute couple?

>>25956351
Nelson and Callie.

>>25956351
me and all the cute anime boy aspies

>>25956351
Bloom and Elliott

>>25956351
Me and your mom

>>25956351
I'd say but they split up and put a lot of shit inbetween them

Vtuber?
What do they do with the tubes?

>>25956414
https://twitter.com/ElliottAmbers/status/1503889163581538309

>>25948531
I think the comments got to her head. she is good by /asp/ standards and sucks by just about any other standards.

>>25956351
Peenm Cordy, Azu, Alto, Every babi X Me

>>25956877
THEY ARE

>>25956900
Say that shit about my future wife to my face and not online, see what happens.

>Mum found the tissue drawer
I CAN'T STREAM LIKE THIS I CAN'T STREAM LIKE THIS I CAN'T STREAM LIKE THIS I CA-

>>25956900
I've only watched her a handful of times and I can tell this post just reeks of jealousy. She's pretty good by normal standards. Nothing amazing, but she'll have no problem growing an audience and community. She has the bare minimum required and not much else, but that's all that's really required for most people.

>>25956933
Why is Alto the only male on that list?

>>25955106
get a character designer and make one based off your interests

https://www.twitch.tv/jaydeadthegoat

still drawing...

>>25957718
I keep mentally calling you jaythedeadgoat
すまん。。。

>>25957718
who are these harlots on your stream!?

>>25953602
Wait, Nyanners knows about /asp/?

I hope to stream more often soon...
Being 3ccv is painful desu

Who /here/ doesn't post stream links anymore?
Feels like things are shifting...

>>25959540
>Feels like things are shifting...
its the natural cycle of /asp/, silly
selfposters stop posting their link here and either they post themselves in /wvt/ or someone that watches them does

>>25959540
as much as i like /asp/ it did nothing to change my numbers so there was no point in self-posting.

is it a good idea to shill yourself to /asp/? especially if you're male?

>>25960467
No one else is gonna do it

>>25959540
I don't even post vocaroos anymore because my voice is easy to recognize

>>25960467
No. Infact I don't think it's worth shilling on /asp/ period. Out of the 43 unique IPs here, i'm willing to bet 5 of them are viewers/saviorfags. The rest are vtubers much like yourself trying to prove their worth in an oversaturated ecosystem.
That's not to say posting your link will get you 0 views but don't expect 10+ people to show up. Treat asp as a stepping stone to greatness and nothing more.

>>25960467
/asp/ is a place to ask for feedback, not to shill, in that sense. Shill yourself on /wvt/ if you want to, ask for advice here.

>>25957131
they're all males anon, babis are males in denial

How long do you think any vtuber will last on average, not just /asp/?
I’ve been thinking about how long I might be able to go as a vtuber at the least, if not a streamer.

>>25961054
There is no way to quantify it, streamers will stream as long as they want. Some for months, some for a couple of years, some for longer. It all depends on the person.

>>25961054
if you can get an established audience, the positive feedback will make you enjoy it a lot more. if you are a 2view you'll probably go menhera very quick, unless you can detach yourself from numbers amd really like talking to yourself.

>>25961054
I'll stay a vtuber until I get a girlfriend. I'm in for the long run.

Guys can be cute even without boobs, right?

>>25961394
we have a bunch of cuties from this thread so yeah

>>25961394
theres plenty of males viewers consider cute. none of the /asp/ viewers matter much so I'm not referring to an /asp/ie but there's been others

>>25960467
Short term shilling is fine, it'll get you to like 3ccv (see: Azu)
Long term is a complete fucking waste, you'll just have a very very slow revolving door of new people checking you out and the earlier viewers leaving so you never actually grow (see: Kaiser).
Once you've posted 2 or 3 stream links here pretty much everyone on /asp/ has seen you and decided whether or not they're going to watch you. Effort should then be diverted into getting NON-/here/ viewers. You know, from those marketing reps that males absolutely refuse to do.

>>25961542
I'm not a fan of shilling at all because I think no matter who it is, it ruins your expectations and clouds your judgement. You shill here and you get a handful of viewers sure, but they aren't "real" viewers you attracted with your content, your wit, your personality. They're other aspies who watch you purely because you are "one of them", which is what Azu's 6 CCV is. None are real viewers he's attracted on his own, nor are the viewers of a majority of people here. it makes people think they're doing well and they get complacent and nothing you say can make them realize it because they're "inclining" and anyone that says otherwise just looks bitter or like they're trying to hate.

I know the guy get's shit on constantly, but he's really the best example. If anyone were scrolling through (or were raided into, for example) and saw a chuuba like alto, azu, thaum, etc they'd close the tab immediately and never look back. They watch them now because they're on the same 4chan board, that's it.

>>25961813
That's how all the wvt chuubas started though

>>25961863
Even with viewers aside, /wvt/'s network of chuubas is a hell of a lot bigger and with all due respect to /asp/ies, even from the get-go you could see the amount of effort they put in compared to most of the /asp/ies. Callie never just "hit live" to fuck all nobody for months at a time with zero personality to her content. She had her own viewers within a month. A lot of /wvt/ chuubas support one another like aspies try to, the difference is most of them seem to have significantly more drive, personality, and just overall skill than most /asp/ies seem to even in their earlier days and that's coming from someone who's got a founders badge in multiple /wvt/ chuubas channels. A lot of /wvt/ chuubas started with a hell of a lot more....everything than the last gens of /asp/ did, and personality is definitely one of them.

>>25962128
they were hobbyists that had an actual interest in what they were doing instead of soulless aspies in it to "make it"

>>25962209
You think most aspies are in to "make it"? Half of them just want friends

>>25962209
I think that's the problem honestly. I hate saying "soul" unironically, but you can sell a lot of that in most /wvt/ chuubas, even the shitty ones. There's some doing only marginally better than current /asp/ie but it still feels like they've always put in so much more effort than "what should my design me? how do I make it? ok" and then go live to the same 5 people week after week.

>>25962128
that's sort of what i noticed myself when comparing me to /wvt/ chuubas. even when putting in 500% more effort in streaming than i ever did in anything else in my life, it doesn't even come close to how better a lot of the other streamers are. I've noticed only after a couple months i can work as hard as i want, I'll probably not be able to stand out. and i suppose that's fine not everyone is made for this thing.

>>25962471
do you have talents and interests and passions and are you sharing them with your viewers? that's the difference

>>25962128
Well said. I notice with aspies they're a lot less open to collabs, spend a lot less time on socials and barely go outside their comfort zone in terms of content. /wvt/ubers on the other hand do just about everything and barely ever complain.
Makes me wonder if asp gen 4 will ever exist. This might theoretically be the end of this place.

>>25962128
its interesting that you use callie as an example because i'm not sure if you're aware that she started in /asp/ in april of last year but yeah she's a great example of someone who keeps on pushing the envelope with her streams and ideas
bloom is another /asp/ie who really lets his passions shine and you can tell he's doing it because he really cares about the things that he's streaming whether its doom, retro games, or music

>>25962743
yes and even people /here/ said that it was neat but obviously it didn't go anywhere. my guess is that I'm not very good at invoking interest in my passions. either that or nobody cares in the first place. I've tried pretty much everything on my list and I'll do a bunch more, but i think the biggest debuff is that I'm just not good at anything. How much can a person who's perceived as depressed from basically everyone else possibly get people excited about his passions?

>>25962871
>Well said. I notice with aspies they're a lot less open to collabs, spend a lot less time on socials and barely go outside their comfort zone in terms of content.
this is just factually false we've seen a couple of collabs and more that are probably planned that we don't know about
keep in mind that a lot of /asp/ies are fresh and just starting and a lot of people usually try to find their footing in streaming before jumping into collabs
>Makes me wonder if asp gen 4 will ever exist.
of course it will dummy
the gap between the shimada gen and this one was about six months so if it takes that long for a new batch of chuubas to all pop up at once after a lull in the threads then that's what'll happen. with the /asp/cord being shilled as hard as it is though i think it'll go the way of /wvt/ where the lines of generations just got blurred after a while

>>25958734
i got peer pressured into a discord VC by some normies, it was interesting, someone read me a love poem

>>25963047
You can't deny how low the bar is compared to previous aspies. Yes, there's a few collabs but they just feel like a couple of people who happen to be streaming the same game with zero thoughts of anything else. There's more to collabs than just playing some game you never plan to play together again when you're talking people that stream together with the intent to actually make decent content
>keep in mind that a lot of /asp/ies are fresh and just starting
They really aren't "fresh" by any stretch not these days. Azu has been going for months now. Also and the crocodile babi? Last year. Eraxs and Kaiser? Hundreds of hours streamed. That tanuki or whatever he is? January.

That's just a handful of them, but compare what they've done, not even just their CCV, with what the /wvt/ chuubas did in their first 3 or 4 months. Most /asp/ies barely even seem to stream. Even spacer with all his autism and a PNG was doing better in his first few months.

>>25963047
Idk why you were fixated on the collabs portion but I still digress. Lurk the Discord and check schedules, you'll find a lack of interest in collabs. Obviously idk what goes on in peoples DMs but going off the info available reinforces this disinterest.
Deep down though everyone's interested in collabs so long as it's with a 3view.
Fyi, nobody's fresh here. If that's any indication it just makes them look worse. Like the anon I replied to most /wvt/ hit the ground running and don't stop no matter how "fresh" they are. It just sounds like copium at this point.

I don't mean anything I'm saying as an "attack" against aspies either, just an observation in all honesty. It just seems like no one actually cares about what they're streaming, they're just hitting Live and throwing on some game then expecting people to care.

>>25964297
i wouldn't say no one necessarily, i've seen a few /asp/ies from the current gen doing things beyond just that; i've seen lala welcome people in with prestream zatsus going through zoos, kaiser has done talks on game creation and has his whole menhera monday streams, coyote knight was just doing a gamedev stream earlier today as well
i don't keep track of every single /asp/ie and while i won't disagree that a lot do just turn on a game and start streaming there are others who do things that aren't that

>>25964297
Let people have fun ffs

>>25964540
I really hate when people bring up Kaiser as if he's some fresh new face. He isn't an "aspiring vtuber", he's literally got OVER A THOUSAND HOURS streamed. He's a guy that happens to post in this thread. He's not some newbie that found this place and wanted to learn. He has more hours than almost everyone that's posted in this thread since the beginning of the year. Check for yourself. Imagine streaming for 6 years and having next to nothing, possibly less than nothing considering the toll on his mental health.

>>25964557
I don't think he's saying that the fun people when streaming is invalid, he's calling out people who have aspirations of success or "making it" but all they do is the bare minimum of starting a stream

Would people want to watch an amateur do game development or would they rather watch a pro do it?

>>25964825
it's actually more than 11 years, although I'd be lying if i said i ever dedicated any serious effort in it before coming here. I was mostly interested in streaming technology and just kept up with the trends which is why i started vtubing in the first place. I just had a model lying around and wanted to see if i can make it dance. Putting any effort into this was a mistake from my part since it's been clear I don't have what it takes. I'm definitely a lost cause, but that doesn't apply to the others.

One for I hate people who waste their potential.

>>25965369
The 'Last streamed: X weeks ago' kind?

>>25965414
Specifically that kind.

I'm a shut in and I was worried about having no stories to share since I am at home most days.. but my family is insane and the things they put me and themselves through is enough to write a novel. I've kind of disliked my family but they make the most interesting stories.

>>25965369
Most of the people wasting their potential honestly don't much to speak of to begin with. I can't thinkof any chuubas actively squandering it, most are just unsocialized shutins with no hobby or ambition.

>>25965414
>>25965427
Dog hate for specifically this reason. So buffed to make it and yet "Last live 3 weeks ago". That's just one example too, I see so many people with expensive models and setups debut and they don't ever stream again and just become tweeters. It makes me seethe that if I had the kind of opportunities or privileges some people had, I would use it to my maximum benefit and some people will sit and let what they're capable of waste away. I get that some people just aren't destined to make it despite their best efforts like me, but when it's even slightly possible for others and they don't do everything they can it's like getting spit on. I need therapy.

>>25965897
Kaiser was the dog anti all along

>>25965897
menhera monday sure came early didn't it. you're gmi anon. just get in a better mindset.

Tips for audition videos? Should you just read a madeup RP script as a character or?

>>25965897
The difference is that he's ACTUALLY doing this as a hobby and not using it for cope. He's got a social life, friends outside of his little computer box, aspirations. He's not grasping on to the one, final thread of hope that maybe, just maybe he can turn his life around by becoming a popular vtuber. That's the difference between him, you, and a lot of people that look to vtubing as some silver-lining solution that'll make them actually have some impact on this world.

>>25966047
>social life, friends outside of his little computer box, aspirations
Yet still
>so buffed to make it
Why can't it be me bros I'd kill for just one of these things

>>25965947
I'm more of a bunny person myself, haven't watched the dog.

>>25966118
Haven't watched the dog yet still schizod him off the thread because of your jealousy

We need a female Kaiser
>>25965947
>>25965897
nah the ol' admiral always says he's fine dumping money into the hobby. I doubt he's jealous of people with good models considering he can just go buy some $1k ikemen model on booth if he wanted to

>>25966118
Aren't you following each other

>>25966182
that's cute as fuck

>Think the thousand dollar model meme is nothing more than a joke
>Shrug it off since making everything yourself is more satisfying (You'll definitely look worse but feels much more like (you)r creation)
>Cut to today
>Looking for art inspos and came across an amazing model
>Find the artists Carrd
>All commissions are closed, even the waitlist
>Full body model (nope, not rigged or animated) is $6000 USD
>Character design is $3500+
>Reference sheet is $4000+
>Commercial usage price is 3 times what your project cost amounts to
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, THIS USED TO BE A NICHE HOBBY FOR FUCKS SAKE

>>25966113
you me and everyone in this thread brother get in line

>>25966276
Do they work for corpos or something?

>>25966113
stop letting dog live in your head fag. retards here keep glorifying him, hes not THAT buffed. his biggest buff is being a cosplayer with huge group of weeb friends to market with, thats fucking it. go make some friends and be of use to people instead of wallowing

>>25966337
https://kamochiruu.weebly.com/commission-info.html
Nope, freelance. Admittedly his art is pretty goddamn fantastic but the prices bring a tear to my eye. Back to Skeb we go I guess

>>25966357
The live2d already includes the commercial pricing according to that

>>25966163
i know we both wish i was gone instead of him but reality is never fair.

>>25966182
yeah, money is the last thing im jealous of. and i might get a friend to do some voice acting for the admiral for a special occasion in the future just to see how it feels. i too feel like she deserves a cuter voice.

>>25966194
he pretty much never streamed after i followed him i believe.

>>25966276
I did the skeb ref sheet route because I found an artist on there I liked. I made the mistake of not being detailed enough and ended up with the face being borderline femboy when my voice is on the deeper end. I've streamed a bit to myself and like the act of streaming, but the dissonance between the model & my voice makes me feel embarassed to shill myself or stream to other people.

>>25966429
So? What does that have to do with anything?

>>25966338
>not THAT buffed
>art
>cosplay
>music
>charismatic & funny
>9 hour zatsudans
>knows how to game algorithms
>MONEY BUFF
I could go on. It sounds like I'm talking him up to be more than he is but I'm just taking note of things that I'm lacking in. He's pretty buffed. The only thing I have that he doesn't is a listenable voice.

>>25966480
>Commercial usage price is 3 times what your project cost amounts to

>>25966276
>THIS USED TO BE A NICHE HOBBY FOR FUCKS SAKE
Even when it was a niche hobby Kamochiru was still charging pretty high prices, chuuba work just takes a lot more than a standard commission or even actual corporate work. There were always expensive artists, those people were just requested enough that they included work for content creators in their portfolio. The 3x price thing doesn't apply to chuuba models anyway ,it's already factored in the price.

Even before this was a hobby thought doable by your average joe, corporations were already paying tens of thousands of dollars just to produce a single chuuba, so I don't know why it's some strange, crazy revelation that those same artists who were doing work for studio, companies, etc are now willing to do work with anyone. The hobbyists create this niche, companies did. Those companies paid people a lot of money to create interest in this hobby.

>>25966502
Congrats, you want a fucking medal? It's still 6k for a model you dweeb, that's a ton of fucking money

>>25966357
That's crazy, she used to make models for $1000 half body and $1500 full body not even a full year ago. That chibi price is fucking ridiculous.

>>25966523
>say something wrong
>have it pointed out
>act like a little bitch
fuck you too

>>25966113
>>social life, friends outside of his little computer box, aspirations
>Yet still
>>so buffed to make it
Yes, those things aren't mutually exclusive, in fact they're very connected. ANY chuuba that does well likely either has or has had extensive social experience, hobbies, special interests, etc. You don't just pick it up after 6 months of streaming to nobody. The myth of the "loner weeb that suddenly makes it big" is fucking bullshit. All the top chuubas are a lot closer to normal than they are whatever you'd call yourself. This is content creation. Slap an anime girl picture on it and call it what you want, it's still just streaming.

>>25966499
anon, having basic fucking human social skills and hobbies really shouldn't be considered a "buff". i don't know what "algorithms" you think he's gaming, but he's literally just a dude that likes streaming and talking to people. He's just a fairly normal person. You think he's exceptionally charismatic or funny because all you surround yourself with are fucking unsocialized weirdos. Guess what, all his friends are likely the same way, too. Most regular people are. You're the one with the debuff, it isn't the other way around.

>>25961813
>thaum
I'm always willing to take critique, but even without, you're not wrong. I got into vtubing because the streamers I watched made it feel like I was being invited in as a friend, and I figured I'd try the other side of it too.
Didn't realize the effort involved up front, and have to admit that I absolutely don't put as much time into this as I probably should if I want the growth.

>>25966499
>dog has unlistenable voice
and yet...
jokes aside, i hope you know you can capitalize on your voice. if you know it's better than someone else's, that's a whole crowd you're already ahead of. do your reps and train yourself in something, maybe video editing or art classes, stop sitting in self pity about what someone else is capable of when you're not working to make yourself more capable.

>>25966047
If I ever drop my link here and say I'm doing this for a hobby, /asp/ will blast my ass

>>25966523
And? Obviously it's not meant for you if you can't afford it. A lot of pricing is prohibitive specifically so that people with means can afford it and it lowers the amount of people you have to work with. Instead of 10 customer at 600 each, it's one single customer for the same amount. What is your issue with the pricing when corporations pay just as much, if not more?

>>25966613
I'm not shitting on you as a person, sorry to use you as an example it's just kind of where it falls. Do what you like and if that means just fucking around and having fun, do that.

>>25966276
If you have any sort of JP ability, find some artists on skeb that have a style that you like and is consistent through their works, and consider reaching out to them and asking if they'd be interested in drawing a chuuba model.

Seeing a lot of people saying this, so what exactly did the wvt chuubas do differently that they have a better head start than all of /asp/?

>>25966276
Newsflash, but popular and in-demand artists charge a lot of money for their work. It's never not been this way, you're only just now noticing because it involves something you've taken interest in. Why are you so pressed, all you have to do is not pay for it and let the bigger creators or just people with bigger wallets pay for it.

>>25966661
Eh, no worries. I've been going for a year and have yet to get a monthly average of double digits. So you're not wrong.
I have learned some extra stuff, in that I can now use photo and video editing software at least a bit.
During lockdown in the UK, one of my friends moved from North Wales to London, one to Yorkshire, and one in China. I don't have much in the way of social circle outside of being online anymore.

>>25966357
Oh I remember really liking this one model from him https://mobile.twitter.com/taishoujyo

>>25966538
You remind me of those vocabulary warriors who'd get pissed off if you wrote "Your" instead of "You're". So what if I got a little info mixed up, what's that going to change? Nothing. So don't fucking point it out you autismo.
>>25966477
Why don't you go through with another one? Perhaps you could link your old one as a reference and ask specifically for more masculine features + whatever costume or hair stuff has been bothering you.
>>25966504
I feel like the difference here is a corpo vtuber is guaranteed to be a sold figure per say, whereas an indie only really gets whatever they put in. Plus money.
For comparison, Adobe and Microsoft charge companies thousands upon thousands to use their software but give it to independent consumers for really cheap. An artist with previous corpo experience trying to apply that same business strat to indies is dangerous.
>>25966527
I know! $600 for a fucking chibi, dude's rolling in cash
>>25966633
See above
>>25966709
For sure. I've got a few bookmarked so might send them details later.

>>25966775
Why are you so aggressive?

>>25966721
nothing other than not coming to /asp/

>>25966796
It's SEA hours and I'm on demon time.

>>25966721
Most of them were hobbyists with drive, interests, and direction. A lot of them knew what they wanted to do or had ideas and did them. They were generally just more interesting as people and a lot of the more recent aspies are just uninteresting as people. Bloom can sing (not actually a fan of his singing but people says its good), is interested in retro games and their history. Callie has a lot of weird trailer trash stories from her life and is just the right amount of quirky to not be annoying. Nelson is pretty funny when he's got someone with him and plays off of others fairly well and also has pretty clear interests whereas nothing really stands out about many of the aspies

>>25966597
Nta but he's talking about buffs. You really think being able to draw and do other shit isn't going to help you get ahead in vtubing? He literally got bao's attention just drawing something simple. I agree that anon is debuffed as fuck though, unironically go get a job it'll at least help you with social skills and money

>>25966775
>An artist with previous corpo experience trying to apply that same business strat to indies is dangerous.
How, exactly? Their art isn't suddenly less valuable nor does it take less effort just because the chuuba is small. The software comparison doesn't make much sense because it's still just the same data, nothing is new or changed. This person has to put the same amount of work into a popular chuuba's model as they do into some randos and in all honesty their work for smaller people has yielded much better designs in my opinion. There's nothing "dangerous" about it. You either have the money or you don't.

>>25966885
Besides their art skills, which are a dime a dozen at their skill level, they're not any more "buffed" than a random fuck off the street that's got some basic life experience, a job, and a social circle. He's just heralded as the fucking second coming because around these parts any semblance of "talent" is a rarity. He's not that buffed, people's standards here are just extremely low that a baseline interesting person is somehow seen as a deity. I like dog, he's a cool dude and I wish he'd stream again but he's not the second coming. He's an interesting dude that's good at chatting it up. That's it.

>>25966898
Are you by chance Jewish?

who is this dog guy?

>>25966986
FUCK THAT GUY
WATCH MY NIGGA BOSEPH
cozy.tv/boseph

>>25966973
No, I'm just not complaining that an artist is charging for their time and skills what people have decided is a price they're willing to pay. I have yet to hear why it's a "dangerous' practice when there's hundreds if not thousands of other artists out there available.

Is there a minimum ccv/follow requirement to shill in wvt? If there's none, why did aspies shill here instead of there?

>>25966898
They run the risk of not spreading themselves far enough. With Skeb existing and Twitter artists + riggers popping up every day it devalues the current eco system which, in turn, should deflate their prices. btw I don't want to pick on this guy specifically, he's just an example to the hundreds, possibly thousands of likeminded artists who don't price accordingly to the market.

>>25967025
There's no requirement at all, but random shill posts are generally ignored

>>25966968
Nobody said anything about him being the second coming of anything, but I think he is considerably more impressive than any /asp/ies in here aside from maybe Mashi.

>>25967060
How do I get accepted there

>>25966613
I'd like to echo the sentiment of not realizing just how much work actually goes into the whole thing. I try to work on little essay videos apart from streaming, and my first video took about 3-4 weeks to put together for a final product that was only 7.5 minutes long.
I also think I suffer from lack of a consistent focus. "RNG" is such a wide net that I don't actually think I know what to do with. I have ideas sure, but don't know how to execute.

>>25966775
I mostly just don't want to spend the $ on another png or ref sheet. I'll probably just quit being a baby about it, stream, and if I am successful/enjoy it enough to justify putting the $ into getting a l2d then I'll make the changes then if it comes to it.

>>25967083
Become a member of their communities, or make fanart if you are artistically inclined

>>25967110
That's a good idea. Wish you all the best anon

>>25967121
That's a good starting point. Thanks.

>>25967054
and yet the people come running and he's constantly pumping out chuubas, and has been for at least a year at this point. It doesn't deflate his prices at all, in fact I think they went up since the reference sheet was definitely the same price as character design. Skeb, Twitter artists, new riggers, etc don't matter for shit when you're at the top and one of the people that others are always coming to to begin with. Considering how full he is, I don't see any "danger" any time soon.

>>25967078
He's considerably more impressive than any aspie is what i mean. Any /asp/ie. Nothing more. That's why I think it's silly that anon acts like he's got some massive buffs. Like i said, their bar is just extremely low because they surround themselves with people like themselves. No drive. No hobbies. No social life past or present. No aspirations for the future, no interest in anything but waking up, going on 4chan, playing some games, maybe working, and going to bed to do it all over again.

>>25967156
Imagine if you're a well paying chuuba and stumbled across "Comms; closed. Waitlist: Closed". You'd go elsewhere and he just missed out on 6k. He's clearly doing alright now but after another year? When more artists with openly available comms keep cropping up for cheaper prices and equally good, if not better, art? He's in trouble.

My oshi just gave me a shoutout in her stream and a bunch of people followed me from it
I'm going to make it!

>>25967303
You don't seem to know how exactly this whole thing works. I will guarantee you that a year from now he'll either have the same or higher prices and those slots will still be filled. He didn't "miss out" on 6k, he chargers 6k so that he has the luxury of turning people away. 6k as one commission as opposed to 6k as three 2k commissions means less work because it's one piece as opposed to 3 that take the same amount of time, and less people to deal with. Artists like this don't just suddenly fall out of favor because there's other artists, they're almost always in demand. People wait on that list or wait for an opening because they want them.

>>25967303
wonder how many people were saying that about iron vertex 2 years ago. or the host of 3D modelers out there that are so booked they don't even know when they'll be open again.

What is the title of the person I need to hire to get design consultation for a model? I have all these bits and pieces that I want in a model but I don't have the design knowledge or artistic ability to consolidate these pieces into a final character design. I don't even know what color choices would work

I think a viewer doesn't like me anymore...

>>25968009
Which viewer?

>>25955106
MMO hunter class

>>25967962
You just want an artist that does character design commissions. "character designer" will probably pop up a whole host of people that do general character design from anything to cartoons to comics. Twitter sucks as far as having any decent search functions, so what I've always done is search what I want and add the word "commission" to it. Problem is you often end up scrolling through a lot of furries, but something like this will usually yield some decent artists if you're willing to put in the bullshit footwork to drudge through it.


https://twitter.com/search?q=vtuber%20sheet%20filter%3Aimages&src=typed_query&f=live

It's one I used to find the artists who did mine. Godspeed, because twitter is absolute ass for this stuff.

>>25968183
I love you, anon. I appreciate your help

As someone who's been in wvt for a long time, I dont see points of putting wvt on a pedestal because there has been a lot of people who quit or burned out over the year and now you're just looking at the people determined enough to keep going and to keep streaming no matter what. Just like asp, most people are not going to have the passion and drive to keep going but it's okay because this is a place where you're supposed to learn about things and to get your foot into the door in order to figure out if you love it in the first place.

>>25955106
I pictured Molayne from Pokemon Sun/Moon. Doesn't have to be this exact color scheme, but go with this posture or something like Milo from Atlantis and it could be pretty moe.

the voice of sonic in the movie is the most attractive type of male of voice in my opinion. are there any /asp/ies with a similar voice?

>>25969472
are you asking if a random nobody aspie has a voice similar to an actor that's been in the business for 15 years? No, no one does.

>>25969724

To be fair, there are enough dudes who naturally sound like Kermit the Frog to fill every Navy freighter in the America. Worth a shot asking.

>>25969472
Me

>>25959540
i've never posted stream links. from the few times i've selfposted here it seems like a large percentage of people in the threads don't really like me for some reason. which is fine, but i don't wanna go out of my way to attract them into my streams

Other than just replying to every single chuuba tweet you see, how do you get people to come to you?
How do you get people to actually retweet your stuff instead of liking and moving on?
And how do you convert people seeing your tweet to viewers?

>>25971638
You don't, the ratio is like 100 twitter followers to 1 actual viewer

Getting viewers is hard. Getting chatters is harder.
Having a sexy model and a shitty voice makes it even more so.

You have inclining, you have reclining, but then what’s the middle?

>>25972482
stagnation

>>25972482
Stagnating

>>25972482
stagnating

>>25972482
stagnation

/asp/ies would know about stagnation

/asp/ies would know about prostate stimulation

>azu
>light week again
>no schedule
he’s done for

>>25963919
collabs fucking suck. if they aren't real experienced entertainers it's just a bunch of friends talking about random shit and often explaining nothing to the confused viewer

>>25973172
Cat correction is required.

collabs only work if the people have good chemistry for entertaining the audience
i made sure my one and only collab so far was like this and it's still one of my best performing streams even though my partner was smaller than me

>>25973575
Well any collab with the sloth isn't going to have good chemistry by default. That person is a charisma black hole.

>>25966721
they make content while you just jerk each other off on discord

>>25973865
ive only watched one sloth stream and i agree

I want a beetle chuuba who calls their fans the stagnation

>>25974070
kek

>>25968009
i think that vtubers never liked me but acted like they did when they had no alternatives

>>25967156
artists like this are comparable to luxury brands. they provide nothing special and the quality is usually not any better than of a cheaper alternative but people know them and you may be able to tell people that your model was made by the same people that made the model of some famous vtuber

>>25973865
>charisma black hole.
why do you say that?

>>25974070
A deer works just as well.

>>25973865
Was the collab yesterday that bad?

>>25972083
i have never seen anyone that matches your description but i have chatted with vtubers that no one on this board would like

>>25973575
many forget this and end up only entertaining themselves.
when you give new vtubers advice you need to assume that they are on the level of a retarded child and will do the wrong thing if you just tell them to network or collab with no additional clarification

>>25973865
that would be me if i were a streamer. no one would be able to win me at this

>>25974343
only way to find the answer is watching it

would you guys appreciate having an 'experienced' chuuba in here to ask questions from or would that cause a lot of strife? i haven't been in these threads in a long while so i would feel bad if that caused more headache

>>25974827
according to anons here, every /asp/ie is hopeless and will never make it, I'm not sure what kind of advice you want to give, but there is a discord i guess

>>25974827
i get headaches looking at "experienced chuubas" in the discord fail and fail for dumb bullshit so honestly it would be nice to see crendentials to back up any answers

>>25974827
Ask
But be anonymous
It’s that simple

>>25974987
>>25974955
>>25974951
if being anonymous will make it easier, than sure. sorry if this is too vague to 'prove' myself and i wouldn't call this make it numbers, but if people are having trouble getting their footing than i don't mind giving answers for that.

I'm leaving /asp/. The negativity and elitism around here is very discouraging and a lot of times it feels like the same bunch of chuubas just throwing shade at each other. Get out of here while you can and only post when you have a genuine question or need of advice. Godspeed /asp/ies

Does having a le epic gaemr overlay on your gameplay matter when you’re a 2view4u? It almost seems like it’s required to have chat at least.

>>25975080
also i hope the reclining arrow doesn't scare you too much. i had a huge event the month before so this month are my more normal numbers.

>>25975094
Name yourself, coward. No need for a dramatic, anonymous exit if people can still skinwalk you.

I'm leaving /asp/. The negativity and elitism around here is very discouraging and a lot of times it feels like the same bunch of chuubas just throwing shade at each other. Get out of here while you can and only post when you have a genuine question or need of advice. Godspeed /asp/ies

>>25975114
i don't like covering the game unlike everyone else

Which aspies would have the most interesting sex with each other?

>>25975214
Kevin Nash and his rapist

>>25966845
you literally just listen the people that started in /asp/

>>25975214
Azu x another Azu

>>25969472
LoneStarColt based on what a bunch of people have said about his voice in the past

>>25975080
Personally I'd be interested to hear what you have to say, but I'm pretty much convinced at this point that I'm lacking the bare minimum in terms of personality so i wouldn't know what to ask unless you can answer broad questions like "how do i keep people interested in what i have to say, if I don't leave any dead air and it's something I'm passionate about".

I think my biggest problem is that people come to my stream and basically instantly leave or don't stay very long. I might get 50 viewers on my stream but its still 2CCV. I'm sure this is normal but I've seen a lot of streams where 80% of the people stay for the entire stream.

>>25975522
azu…

>>25975682
Sound more like Kaiser seething again

>>25975080
Do you mind sharing the process of going from 2view to the current ccv? Maybe share the marketing reps, offline content, and whatever you did to incline.

>>25975080
please answer first if you're male or female. it's entirely different for each gender.

>>25975312
Gross. No thanks.

>>25975080
congrats anon! very close to partner. Do you have a timeslot to recommend? i can stream at any time cuz NEET, but I would like to know which time is the best.

Do twitch vod views include live viewers?

>>25976514
yes. they made the counter useless

>>25976514
>>25976584
No, they don't. I've had double digit streams and the VODs show 0 views for the next couple of hours. Most of the views on past streams are from bots hopping between channels

>>25976683
You're retarded. It takes a couple hours for the views to show up. You've seriously never noticed how your higher CCV streams have a higher VOD viewcount?

>>25976683
https://twitter.com/TwitchSupport/status/1305597211875700736
retardchama....

>>25976683
morons that are confident in their own stupidity like this dumbass is why this thread is useless.

I’m tempted as hell to retweet my chuuba stream tweets on my main account that has no connection to the other… just to break out of /asp/ jail…

>Skeb artist prices at 500
>Seems low as fuck so offer 2800 and a very simple scene
>Cancelled
>"What? Wtf why?"
>Check their profile
>Recommended amount now at 3000
Not my fault you priced it wrong you dumb shit. What now? If I request again he might do a shit because "oh its the guy who tried to lowball me".

>>25968009
Can't be me, I still watch all streams.

>>25975522
hooking people from raids can be difficult. i know saying just RNG isn't helpful so let me put it a different way. viewers from a streamer similar to you in content or tone are more likely to stick around. i sometimes get big raids were less than a tenth of them stick by at the end, and some where the retention is far better.
dead air is kind of an iffy. you should try to keep conversation with yourself at a steady pace, but you don't need a million words a minute.
my best advice right now is to practice having a conversation with yourself. learn to talk without needing to be prompted by an audience, it's one of the best starting blocks i can recommend.

>>25975810
making friends helps, but that's kind of vague. you definitely need to get your name out there and getting friends helps. you don't have to be personal buddies, but sometimes those raids early on help. i tried to show up to other people's chats and interact with them on twitter. i don't mind smaller vtubers following me-- what i hate is when they follow but dont interact at all. if you are just wanting to lurk and observe someone's content without being seen that's one thing. but i hate the ones who follow every v-tuber they can and then wonder why no one shows up. comment on people's posts, go to their streams, make OC content. don't comment on every single post of course, but giving engagement is important. those smaller vtubers that give me some engagement end up getting a raid from me when i see them online, because i try to raid down when i can!
otherwise you need to play a good game of marketing yourself on twitter, using art or video creation and hashtags. i'm no good at that unfortunately but i do try.

i know the 'make friends' thing is tiring to hear all the time, so i tried to make it a bit more specific. also always raid! even if it's just you! idc if you come in with one viewer, the important thing is that it gets you on my radar and i try to give you a follow back. it depends on each chuuba of course but i try to thank raiders by raiding them back in the future! maybe dont go into nyanners stream with one person, but if they are 50 and below you should be more than fine.

i guess the summary of it is to get on people's radars-- either viewer or other chuubas. viewers mean making content outside of streams, chuubas means being friendly and interactive. it's okay to be shy, it's a matter or working through it with baby steps if needed. i try to be very friendly to new chuubas and tyr to show up and host their streams when possible.

>>25976036
i would avoid the early evening (American) because a lot of people are on at that time because of work. try during working hours/morning since there's less competition but people try to watch streams on their job!

sorry this is a mess of a post, i'm half awake right now but let me know if i can elaborate on something. i tried to go into more detail than just 'make friends'

>>25977132
>>Recommended amount now at 3000
If they reject order then their price goes up. check if when not signed in.

>>25976793
>>25976849
No. Most of my streams are around 10-15 ccv and almost all my vods make it to 200 views in the next few hours, so there is no indication that the stream view count had any impact. What's the point on showing both if it's not in separate stats?

>>25977202
Sorry what do you mean by this? It's literally the first Skeb artist i've ever requested

>>25977242
Twitch is retarded. Are you really surprised?

>>25977243
Artists can reject your order for whatever reason they want. But if they do reject your order, or you cancel your order, or your card is declined; then Skeb increases the 'suggested amount'.
My first skeb got declined by my bank due to it being suspicious activity. Went back to check the page, and it's gone up 500yen.

If you offer above the suggested, it'll increase from that amount.

>>25977132
what the fuck is wrong with you? art is the only industry where customers are so retarded that they are desperate to overpay

>>25977181
I wasn't really talking about raids, i don't get raided in the first place, but i get the general gist of it. I'm used to talking to myself so that's not a problem, but i should probably pick my topics better or generally just need to keep trying to reach out to people. Sucks i can't watch most /asp/ies or /wvt/ chuubas because they all start at like 3am my time and I'll never be able to get raided by them either because I can't stream at like 7am just to fish for raids and that's also kinda bad taste.

Thank you for your advice though.

>>25977378
Wait... This system is extremely weird. Can the artist put it back down to the previous recommended amount?

>>25977462
That's just something you see. Check their page in a new browser, or incognito. Just one with no cookies.
It's like looking at hotel/flight/concert tickets. Remove the cookies and tracking trail.

>>25977378
Holy shit you're right. Opened incognito and it's 500 again. It's that how things work there? This happening with a 500 piece isn't 'really' surprising to me but what about more expensive ones, 7000 or even 10000? Are you expected to pay more than what's "recommended"?
>>25977431
Guy is some no name artist with a really nice portfolio and barely any followers on Pixiv and Twitter. Thought i'd support the lil guy you know?

>>25977450
>>25977450
If you can't get raids because of your timezone try the 'Waiting Room' strategy. Become friends with streamers you can raid into so their viewers watch you before watching their favorite streamer. It sounds a bit cynical but it's fine if you do it with people you genuinely get along with.

>>25977581
It goes based on the artist's prior accepted work, and what you've offered. So the ones with super high prices only tend to accept the super high offers.

>>25977493
Ohh interesting, good to know. I would've been extremely confused if it happened to me in the future. I guess Skeb does this as a way to tell you "maybe the artist will do it for a higher price"?

>>25977628
Kinda backwards, considering I can't raid them without viewers in the first place, but it makes sense. Now i only need to learn how to make friends and I'm set.

>>25977799
You'll have to put in the work to get SOME viewers without support but once you do it's a good way to grow.

>>25977799
you an raid as a party of one, don't feel bad about it!

>>25978073
>you an raid as a party of one
This will never not be cringe and attention whorey.

>>25978151
i don't care when people raid in as a party of one. it shows that they wanted to come to my stream, which is a sweet gesture. and everyone starts somewhere.

The only difference I have when I get a particularly small raid, like 1 or 2 people, is I just ask them how the stream went and what they were doing. If it's a decent size I say "hey X thanks for the raid" and then ask the same.

However, I am not all people. Some people will be really fucking rude if you raid them with single digit numbers. Stay within your league so you don't get on someone with a huge ego's nerves.

>>25978073
I set my arbitrary raid minimum to like 7 viewers, that's what i have at the end of every 10th stream or so, it's counter-productive but i don't want to just draw attention to myself. If i can't even offer a little bit of a trade, i'm not gonna do it. If i was a new streamer maybe, but i'm a chronically NGMI i shouldn't be needing help in the first place.

>>25978223
>Some people will be really fucking rude if you raid them with single digit numbers
Name and shame.

>>25978407
All the ligma tubers not from /wvt/.

>>25978223
it's not rude to ignore someone that raids with just themselves. many do it for attention and if you give them that special attention you are basically telling your viewers that you value that attention whore more than them

I just did a bit of vanity search and found out someone has been impersonating/falseflagging me in previous /asp/ and /wvt/ threads. :/

found out the best way to work on the model is to start with the bigger, single parts and then move on to the parts that need the most separation and detail. Sounds really obvious but I am really dumb so I am just realizing.

>>25979228
yeah someone impersonated me too

>>25979228
Spill the beans so we can clear your name.

>>25979228
surprisingly for how long i've been here i think i've managed to avoid getting skinwalked i think the closest was someone posting using a picture of me as a reaction image

>>25980091
Don't do this anon.

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>>25980505
Same energy

>>25980505
NEW BOULDY
NEW BOULDY