/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

OP here, please ignore schizos, tribalists, and dramafags. There's not much happening lately, to be honest. Airi Cordelia will "debut" today, although she's been posting videos on her channel. Miti will talk on Trakteer's Twitter tomorrow, by the way.
Trakteer: https://twitter.com/trakteerID/status/1534491019387219969
Airi Cordelia's channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/AiriCordeliaCh

Looks like HoloID are trying to make their own Hologura

>>25898744 (me)
Forgot the link
https://youtu.be/7QGRMCXcz5g

Why did they flop?

>>25898787
Wdym? they already made this kind of skit since long time ago albeit not that much. They really should find a better scriptwriter tho,

>>25899103
Yea, they should hire a better scriptwriter, I watched the tiktok vids and it's bland as fuck

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Roster
>Why did they flop? (NijiID flop posting) {GK}
>We holoID fans (Our Lord Soo Min Park of holoID)
>Guess their religion (Tebak agama vtuber)
>Huhihuhihu (Epel)
>Adudu Iofifteeen
>Piggy bank thief (holoIDdorm)
>Harem Master (Andi Adinata)
>Hana was right (/vt/'s infamous e-girl bait)
>Gluk gluk water (Zen's head on horse body)
>Kobo Tempest
>Loli Miti
>Get Blocked (Ipochan)
>Ucagi (Nekoyama Sena)
>Humbala-Humbala (Anti-Schizo Ritualposting)
>ANJG LU KANNA (Kanna Tamachi)
>Penghuni rumah nanas (Yume reference)
>Unitychad (MuseID-Daem)
>Om2 Pos Ronda (Minerva Rosaline)
>Lontenya Penilep Bansos (Snowdrop & their corrupt owner)
>Maya Putri's Zombie
>Dolphino (Chloe reference)
>Si Otan (Treerat reference)
>Botak (Close the door, thread meme)

Our ball
>Kobo slime

Possible musics:
>Anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgICkQmRolA
>Goalhorn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4CMdzicvKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eorcYTRWskQ
https://youtu.be/5iL2d-0CNPo
https://youtu.be/oFkSQPJeAQE
https://youtu.be/0PK79P8JDWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f8rC4cXKqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWpJaHut7DE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZaW_bq6wxo&t=28s
https://youtu.be/BM6dXhJh8g4
>Victory Anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce87eFO2XE4
>Chants
>Jedag Jedug Vtuber Toxic https://youtu.be/cyMUSpLV32E
>Kobo Tempest introduction
https://youtu.be/c5xn9idw4wg
>Early Moona songs
https://youtu.be/N_1xVr7wp6Q
https://youtu.be/4-wpqxD7Az8
>Kobo Edgelord
https://youtu.be/YDBLs_0SnPQ

>>25899206
If ID1 got a studio here or home3D they can fuck around with their model to make better skits, like reimagining local memes in a fresh format or something like that.

>>25899474
(Me) or maybe just upload your own gameplay to tiktok like, perfectly cut scream, Minecraft funny moments, their songs etc

>>25899474
Speaking of studio, last week some anon said that cover can't open a studio in Indonesia because they are a foreign company and legally doesn't operate in Indonesia, is that true? Also is there any 3D studio in Jakarta? They should've renta the studio desu

>>25899612
Even if they have the 3D studio i doubt they can hold online event here with how shitty our internet speed is. But maybe they can still hold event like holofes offline

>>25899734
Do you really believe our internet speed that retarded for thebentertainment industry purposes? Or you never leave your village (nothing wrong with it).

>>25899924
t. Phone poster

>>25899612
Pretty sure the 3D studio that fulfill Cover standard are in singapore.

>>25898160
why does no one talk about how she keeps doing subathons but never finishes them

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA.

Ooooooo 4chan gods, i pray to thou. Please let this thread be free from any schizos.

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA, AMEN

>>25900076
How many anons here watching her?

>>25899103
yeah, their tiktok series is so bad, need better scriptwriter for sure.

>>25899924
Isn't the sign of good internet is even if you are far from town you can still watch everything in HD?

>>25899103
Just hire milyhya

>>25899583
Speaking of TikTok, i heard people said that Kobo is viral there. What kind of video that got viral? Is it just stream clips? If so how big it is? Sorry i dont use tiktok.

>>25900152
>>25900076
I'm the only Simpthia here (as far as I know). Mythia had toothaches, and although I cannot divulge much (she talked about it in detail on her membership stream), it's so bad that she had to bed rest. She's will continue streaming on 14 June. Miti's been better in the past few days, though. She did stream in Reality lately.

>anons in previous thread wanted Holostars ID
I used to want them, now I don't want to

>>25900418
why?

>>25900211
Is it really that bad compared to their JP counterparts?

>>25900418
I still want them, but only if they are good singers.

>>25900441
If their chat skits are like this one https://youtu.be/Cu2hjPiRHMk
Maybe i'll give them a pass

>>25900348
i used to watch her a long time ago, before the 2.0 model and she's done a subathon before where she didn't continue although she still owed a few hours. this is not the first time lol

>>25900665
In this case, she physically cannot continue it right now, that's why she paused it. There's still 40 hours left, and it would be idiotic for her to stop the donothon.

>>25900441
I never watch the JP one, i don't even know it exist, unless you mean hologra.

The tiktok series is just really bland, both the writing and the va direction. Hologra is hit or miss for me, but atleast it's still interesting.

>>25900313
Not one of a kind viral type of thingy, but her clips are being watched million times in tiktok. I don't know much about tiktok algorithm, but what I know is that it's easier for a content creator to get a high views compared to youtube

>>25900229
Its different context. He questioned about Indo internet capability to hold an online concert, Jakarta is more than capable to handle it.

>>25900439
StarsJP is enough

>>25900803 (me)
Mythia for comparison. So if you want to incline hard in Indo, unironically use tiktok

>>25900803
>>25900971
Damn, more views than Miti already and i heard Miti is big on TikTok. Kobo doesn't post anything on TikTok right? So is it just clips then?

>>25901035
>Kobo doesn't post anything on TikTok right? So is it just clips then?
Yes

>>25901035
Tiktok and Shorts made Miti big. I'm not really into her fanservice-y contents, but it works. I mentioned Airi Cordelia above, she got 400k views from a video there. https://www.tiktok.com/@airicordelia/video/7103729704615611675

please ignore my schizoposting i just want to release something from my mind.

if shilled by windah is the only thing you need to be like kobo then why mine is still sub 500ccv chubba because she is hyped by windah more than kobo. fuck to all schizo who sayying kobo is leeching windah viewers

>>25901468
mine has mods who time out and ban rule breakers. some of them don't come back.
kobo, on the other hand, does not have mods and lets her viewers do whatever they want
but i also think kobo isn't leeching off windah, she has her fair share of international fans still

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C5SvTo6h4jqP4A7YQSi3U8B_KWU6omfOLNCkNg0kt08/

Video version in 2 weeks, still manually gathering 450+ Each of Vtuber static info such as persona and birthday

>>25901194
that's a good video kek.
btw is she really a reincarnation?
i think i read her name from somewhere before.

>>25901631
If you are the person making this, please include Obit into the list kek

>>25901553
>does not have mods
I stopped reading

>>25901468
Kobo has
-Holobox
-HoloID post holofes buff
-Debut buff
-Blue child design
-Young cute voice
-Cute catchy OG song "composed" by herself
-Windah promotion buff
-Brat personality
And all of those combined exploded making her easy to reach Indonesian demographic + international one.

>>25901752
NTA but M-chan is not as extreme and militant as Mine's mods IMHO so sometimes you might not notice her involvement in her chat (ofc except if you're a retard that got bonk'd by her)

>>25901468
>>25901553
Why brings Mine? Just use Zeta, Windah shill her more including posting on his IG story. Both are hololive, from the same gen, and both doesn't have mods. Look how different the results is.

>>25901631
>Kuroechi ch
You need to explain

>>25901745
https://youtu.be/BR2bZujTZHQ
This dog is the biggest Indonesian VTuber. Not HoloIDs, Andi, or Mythia, but this dog.

Infinity pizza with the Hagsmith
https://youtu.be/aDm5umt6_bM

>bored and got nothing to do
>try to make a new account so i can donate with ars for fun
>succesful
>shocked by how cheap membership costs with ARS
why no one tell me 1 membership with IDR cost the same as 7 memberships with ARS. also you can't separate donation payment with membership payment, that makes every time you see a membership user sending ars donation it's mean he also paying membership with ars fee. fucking cheapskate now i have more respect to bocil kematian who use SB

>>25901765
>Blue child design
>Young cute voice
None of that is relevant outside of 4chan memes. Also other big factors you missed IMO
- she debut post Miti
- her accoustic karaoke (especially gimme gimme, look how much views the clip get.
-TikTok
-Trending on youtube
-Kobokan aer meme
-Pawang hujan meme

>Cute catchy OG song "composed" by herself
I don't understand what the point of the ""

>>25901907
Ah, so this is what westoid means when they said "Indog"? I see.

>>25902006
I have already told you before when you refused to get Kobo's membership...

>>25902006
>i have more respect to bocil kematian who use SB
Kobo get more money from SB then SC anon after Susan's cut.

>>25901826
He was a vtuber, too lazy to delete him out of the list

>>25902126
Anon you talking to different person, I use gopay for my main account to pay membership

>>25901631
Thank you for your list Anon.
I found two more male vtubers to follow
>IniAgil
Hilarious DBD clip, very brotuber
I never heard someone with similar laughter, contagious and cute
https://youtu.be/bx6YD9FrEGc
>Ravel Alva
Kururu is my utaite kamioshi it's hard for me to compare male chuubas singing to his (soft yet strong, smooth, and sweet) like I always coming back to his singing everytime after i hear someone else, like an addiction. but... HOLYSHIT this guy is something else. his voice is mega soft although not as sweet and strong as my kamioshi's
I REALLY like his the Beatles karaoke/acoustics, very soothing! His voice is also stable. I'm impressed
https://youtu.be/szTgHH1OWVA
>Horror compilation
https://youtu.be/SWLhX0CAKbA
His laughter is so troll-ish
50k> chuubas are something else.

>>25902734
Damn
I misspelled his name
>Rafel Alva

>>25900229
Not really. If you pay enough, internet in Indonesia can be fast and good. We even already had experimental 5G in Serpong(?) while some other countries like India's 5G is still stuck in their bureaucracy and infrastructure.
The most important thing is the stability, Indonesia still has a problem with stability, especially if it's around the prime time (19.00-23.00 WIB).
But still, if you're paying enough I don't think you still get that kind of problem, especially if you have an office you will pay for the office packages (Rp >1M per month)

>>25900313
The most famous vtuber in tiktok is Gura, with 700M views in her two years of career.
Kobo in 3 months gained around 150M views.
Judge by yourself.

Anecdote, I never get any vtubers nor weeb contents whenever I surfs tiktok, but a few days ago suddenly I got a meme with Kobo in it.

>>25901631
>ID-MY-PH
are we trying to revive Maphilindo?
Good job tho. Thanks

HOLO ID ON HOLO ALT
HOW CAN NIJI ID COMPETE HOLY SHIT

>>25902868
Anon, i was going to another village with just 1 km distance and my internet already fucked, and the distance to the nearest city is just 7 km

>>25901734
>btw is she really a reincarnation?
She is Tsuyu Hortenshia

>>25903196
Holy shit it's real
Only ID 1 tho

>>25903272
Welp, bad luck then. You're in a region where the operator is incompetent.
I've been to various remote areas and most of them are good now, sometimes full signal and stable connection. It was bad 10 years ago but nowadays it has been fixed even in the obscure areas in mountains, mostly.

Egg roleplay with the Hagsmith
https://youtu.be/glGLX5DH3Xo

>>25903196
Huzzahhh

>>25903310
https://twitter.com/SeliaAisnith/status/1531538285952020480
kek

>>25903540
I am in central java anon,

>kururu
>Yagoo stole my oshi's name
What the?

>>25904151
(you)

>>25904510
Yagoo is /here/
>>25904151
I wonder what's his/her role in Hololive

>>25904151
first time?

Is this new? I don't remember it.

>>25904893
Kek Anon...
>WE ARE

>>25905001
It's old
I remember it
I was there
Between moona's moon moon

>>25905001
so holoearth is a streaming platform? i thought it was a game. yagoo have enough with suzy cut and decided to make their own platform without any jews to cut their profit

>>25905730
hololive alternative = alternative steaming platform for hololive, nihonjin really bad at making english name kek

>>25906041
but hey, we will get to see holosummer back

>>25905730
Nah i think it's AR like Pokemon Go

>>25903196
is moona singing too?

>>25906242
yes, Suisei Moona Irys Azki

>>25905730
it's just a parody anon, they can't show youtube for obvious reason.

I think holoALT is just an umbrella term for their multimedia projects. For example they have the holoALT manga and holoEarth game.

my boi taka radjiman won't get an anime bros.. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>25905001
>Kota Lua

man i feel bad for HoloID2 their debut is just 4 months apart with EN1 and JP5 but cover treat them below council and barely above irys

>>25906565
is it supposed to be Kota Lama?

>>25906684
I think it's Kota Tua

>>25906684
Or Kota Luar mayhaps?

>>25906570
>but cover treat them below council
how?

>>25907040
Kota Tua is a thing anon, Kota Luar is not (well, there is actually, but it's dumb if you consider the context).

Golf with the Hagsmith
https://youtu.be/t_-R5iEePJI

>>25907040
>>25907306
The heck is Kota Luar?

>>25899206
Speaking of tiktok, a new ep is up
https://twitter.com/hololive_Id/status/1535580656289611776
Any thoughts?

>>25907556
idk, i just google it and it's apparently a thing kek. just random place in east java i think

>>25907650
Just like the previous one. Bland writing, cringe voice acting. 2/10.

>>25906565
probably Cover trying to play safe and not mention any copyrighted Name (such as Tokyo tower where cover need to licensed to tokyo tower to be included in her MV), so they just change it to Kota Lua.

>>25907799
Hmmm.. Any thoughts on how to improve it? We have 2 other examples here, Maha5 skits and this
https://youtu.be/f8VpfTPR5c8
I didn't know that nijisinetron got noted as a top tier content compared to other branches attempt but how does holoID look compared to them?

>>25908231
I searched Kota Tua on Pangkalan Data Kekayaan Intelektual and there's no mention of Kota Tua (the location) being copyrighted/trademarked. It's either a typo or the city's name is actually Lua (it's moon in Portuguese).

>>25908981
jp corpos are full of paranoids anon

Have you guys heard about Mantra Hujan copyright infrigment by Gustika?

>>25909418
Gustika? The grand-daughter of Muhammad Hatta?

>>25909582
Oh, it's actually Gustixa. Care to tell us more about it?

https://youtu.be/vbMoWtIjnzE
Airi Cordelia debut stream

>>25909418
Qrd?

>>25909873
He remixed Mantra hujan and sampled her voice from Karaoke stream, uploaded it on YT without crediting Kobo and put his name in description instead. Found out by Kobo and someone from Facebook, he confronted him and Gustixa deleted the video after spouting nonsense beforehand

>>25907677
Kek talking about something random
>>25909072
Either paranoid or their legal dept is messed up
>>25910172
So basically he's a schizo?

Hey, I'm glad that Salome was having a slump in viewership in her English stream. No I'm not a Holo vs Niji tribalist, what I mean is I'm glad that the language problem is not exclusive to the ID scene.
Turns out some of the Japanese also didn't like their oshi speaking in foreign language. So the complain of some ID fans that ID vtubers have to add more local contents and using local language is valid, because the Japanese also thinks the same way.

Fuck the people who says that the ones asking for more local contents are a bunch of nationalist worse than bilibili users. Turns out they are the ones who hates their own country and countrymen.

>>25910202
From that facebook thread this is not his first drama

>>25910311
okay?

>>25908431
IMO
1. Hire a better writer.
2. Hire a better voice director. Idk why it sounds so bad and unnatural. Kobo and Kaela can make a really good VO for their Membership promo. Zeta's VO in her shill video is a not as good IMO but still better than in the skit.

They really just need a better person to handle this. The skit that Kaela and Zeta made for their debut is better imo.

>>25910311
lmao the confirmation bias. People like you seethe about vtubers not catering to your tastes, but when they do you don’t show up anyway.
>oh but they’re not interesting
>they don’t understand local culture enough
Then what’s the point of complaining?

>>25910311
>More local contents
Already happens
>Want them to speak ID more
Just chat normally without "gabisa bahasa enggres" or something similar

Interesting that Airi is open on disliking homophobes. I have nothing to comment on her leaning, but isn't this risky PR-wise? It's a way to filter out some people, though, and I'm sure she knows the risks.

>>25910311
We already know this since a long time anon. Everyones, including EN bros want they speak with language they understand. Just look at how many "EN sub Doko?" spam on holoID holofes part.

>>25910758
i mean holoexpo (or whatever the name of the thing is).

>>25910728
now it makes sense why she'd rather reincarnate, you can't really be a vt/u/ber under ID agency especially ones with mid-high popularity like Yume

>>25910728
Did she use to live in some western countries?

>>25910919 (me)
Wait forget it. JK nowadays are crazy

>>25910172
Its more than you think considering he registrated his remix on spotify as his work, with same title and mixing Kobo's vocal without crediting her at all. Its not just forgetting to put the credits to where its due.

>>25910758
yeah this. you can't satisfy everyones. i remember watching the first ID2 collab with their senpai. that was still in the post-myth hype (peak en popularity). so many people asking for English in the chat kek.

everyone is the same. asking for a spesific language is fair, just don't spam.

>>25910894
i remember she tweeting something similar with her PL account.

>>25910894
What's worrying is that those Facebook antis can and will likely use it to incite drama. Fuck, I'm not surprised if someone make a thread about it in /vt/.

>>25911063
>/vt/
No one will care beyond shitposting so don't worry about it

>>25910172
Isn't heiakim get into similar drama before? He uploaded his hololive remix into spotify and get copyright claim or something. Looks like he already sort it out? He just uploaded Mantra Hujan remix.

>>25911063
>/vt/
nah, we're too irrelevant to them, it'd be more likely to see ID dramas at r/vyt despite censorships than here

>>25910486
Tbh this, just chat normally in Indonesian if you want them to speak Indonesian more. I always doing this, just chat in Indonesian even if they start to speak English. Sometimes they noticed my chat and started replying in Indonesian too. It is fun.

>>25911376
there are not enough people on reddit too.

>>25911481
i've done that anon. they answer me in English like 70% of the time kek. i don't mind of course since i'm fine with both (no JP tho, sorry Anya kek).

spamming "gak bisa engress" is retarded. but i do think it's fair if people ask for more Indonesian. even a lot of Outdonesians think so. the problem is they care more about EOP not understanding them than IOP not understanding them, even tho there are TL in chat and many of them only do ID>EN and not EN>ID. i don't think you need full IOP pandering stream, just treat them equally imo.

>>25910728
>dislike homophobe
>not transphobe
BASED

>>25911913
>there are not enough people on reddit too.
Not wrong it's just that I knew AOI drama best there compared to any other socmed, so if someone's on a expose trip, they'd likely to appear there

>spamming "gak bisa engress" is retarded
Are those spammers really posted it for more ID or just because muh meme? When I saw oil's rant about them, my thoughts were like
>Zoombie, it's a kikebook shitpost, why the need to be this mad at them?

>>25912219
Banci is already exist since forever in ID lol, i even know one long time ago, but now he is already returned being a man, went to hajj, got married and have children

>>25912426
One of holoID weakness, no mod for every stream to filter those kind of shitposters.

>>25911913
>Answer in English
Who? I frequently watch Moona and Kaela and they're not like that and altho I don't watch Zeta and Reine that much, they always reply Indonesian messages in Indonesian. I don't know about Risu, Iofi and Ollie tho

>>25912765
NTA I rarely watch holoid gen1 and 2 these day but ollie and anya used to do this alot

>>25912426
i think the probability is the same. i heard some exid staff also leak some behind the scene stuff after the merger? is that legit?

>Are those spammers really posted it for more ID or just because muh meme
i think i've seen it on Kobo's first EN collab with Kiara but never again. maybe because i block them already / they got filtered / they realize the meme is not funny.

but yeah that Ollie's rant was dumb. she misjudged the situation completely and rant to the wrong people. based on what she said i dont think she understand that it's a (very stupid) meme. many people who watch the clip doesn't know the full story.

>>25912765
Kaela anon, she answer in English a lot. Reine also usually answer in more detail in English. i get that she has a lot of EN viewers and her ID viewers understand English, but it's just 1 minutes out of like 2 hours stream with dedicated TL in chat. I don't really watch her anymore tho, so maybe it's different now.

>>25912488
Yeah, banci already exist since a long time kek. Speaking of trans i'm still traumatized after watching a video of transgender surgery....

>>25912593
I think they have some mods behind the scene. I've seen some post get deleted. I think they need to be more active filtering some overused spam tho. Like the "GG Zeta" meme is nkt funny anymore if Kobo doesn't plays with Zeta.

>>25914195
Need silent mod or just turn some 1 year members to mod.

>>25914195
why would you watch it in the first place

>>25914308
The Kiara approach is good imo, rotating some loyal fans as silent mods. They know the channel culture so it's better since sometimes rules are flexible.

>>25900418
if they could actually bring someone with the similar behavior like kobo and also a fluent trilingual, high chance they will success.

>>25913439
>Anya
Kek she's JP for all intent and purpose
>Ollie
Well I never really watch her since her debut despite how this board said she's "the better Kiara" at the time so I don't know
>>25913773
Well Kaela's reason to join Hololive is to practice her english so it's given tho she always answer me in Indonesian if I used Indonesian so perhaps your luck is that bad?
As for Reine, she starts to speak more elaborately in Indonesia after that SL's incident. Altho I don't know who he is but I guess she learned that some of EN schizos are on par if not more miserable and disgusting than their ID counterpart

>>25901468
because she's not. shilled by any e-celebs will just give you hundreds of viewer that may or may not stay for a long period. that's it.
the same why Kizuna AI was booming and had exponential incline, but then died literally after not even a year.

House Flipper with the Hagsmith
https://youtu.be/hp65E00XTCc

>>25915230
Holy shit this is the 4th times she stream on this day

this hag autism and endurance is on whole another level

>>25914308
Zen is already a silent mod

>>25915463
she said she wants to stream 6 games after yesterday's incident

>>25910311
Don't dictate your oshi to speak your preferred language while you're not even supporting them financially, just unsubscribe and stfu retard, I'm glad most ID speak english most of the time and get financial support from people abroad while Niji ID got axed lol

>>25901806
Nah.. it doesn't fit their narrative, they will ignore it

>>25916334
NTA but I think it's alright to give some suggestions in civilized and medicated ways. Just don't get butthurted if they reject it especially if it's retarded

Kobo is now officially the master of collab agama, beating Bobon. She handles it really well kek.

>>25920314
I'm actually impressed, she might be the most ballsy talent in HoloID

Good night, /warkop/.

Minecraft with the Hagsmith
https://youtu.be/Er-W-F-vX8w

>>25922121
Good night awan

>>25922180
This hag .....

>>25922180
is she okay? this is the fifth one right?

>>25922458
well, she did say that she wants to plays 6 games.....

>>25914599
Blame my friend and my curiosity

>>25915576
>>25922180
Oh my.....

hot damn its amazing how ID3 inclining also affecting fleshtuber ID, now irl streamer start popping up, fleshtuber having waiting room for their upcoming stream.
this year onward will be blessing for streaming market in ID

>>25898160
She reminds me of Ames, maybe same artist?

>>25924721
her 2d artist is xeapher iirc, no connections to ames

>>25925250
Didn't think there was a connection, just that the same artist sold a bunch of models. Thanks for the info.

sundul

>>25914927
>As for Reine, she starts to speak more elaborately in Indonesia after that SL's incident. Altho I don't know who he is but I guess she learned that some of EN schizos are on par if not more miserable and disgusting than their ID counterpart
Qrd on all of this?

i thought i could already do sc but i just forgot refresh page after turning off vpn

>>25930436
The UI is basically ready, but the one that prevents it must be Dewi Sri right?

>>25930436
Can you spill the price?

>>25930647
Idk if i want SC enabled for Indonesia. SB and SL cuts is better.

>>25931519
i don't know what you mean but here
10k=blue
20k=light blue
50k=green
100k=yellow
200k=orange
500k=pink
1m=red
highest is 5m

>>25931841
That's what i mean, thanks anon. it's more expensive than NT kek. Same as MYR i think.

>>25910445
>>25910486
>>25911481
>>25916334
Good answers Anons
At the end of the day, they're just employees searching money for Cover.
They can't ignore both market, and will pander to both of them. The frequency is just depend on their language skills and where money's at, at that moment. So interact more in Bahasa especially in donations.

>>25932945
>Bahasa
kys jaksellian

>>25933292
I wish I live in Jakarta

>>25932605
Good to know

>>25933447
Well, the first thing you need to do is to not imitate Jaksel's baboon.

>>25934585
Why is it stereotyped as a Jakarta Selatan thing?
Genuinely asking

Do you think HoloID's existence encourages more people to do code-switching (Jaksel) ?

>>25934766
1. A lot of them are actual retards who speak retard language.
2. Well, the origin is from expatriate (aka immigrant) who lives in Indonesia and decided to shorten "Bahasa Indonesia" into "Bahasa" instead of "Indo" like what all of us do. Basically just like how nips call streamer "liver" instead. A lot of expats lives in Jaksel and they influenced Jaksel people.
3. A lot of them are people that "want to be cool", and the mistake from (2) make them think that's actually the correct name. If you correct them they'll respond with "Bahasa itu istilah b.indo yang bener, kampungan lu" despite literally zero Outdonesians knows wtf "Bahasa" is unless they're an expat or learned it from Indonesians.

It's dumb because not only it's wrong, it's also unintuitive for Outdonesians. Most of them already use the correct name, why teach them the wrong name?

That's it, thanks for reading my blogpost while i'm bored watching Indonesia lost to Jordan.

>>25937288
Office worker that have expat also tends to say Bahasa insteaf of Indonesian language

>>25937288
they've been brainedwashed by foreigners.
>>25940029
>speak in bahasa, please.

>>25937288
People are so worked up over small mistakes...

>>25935270
>Do you think HoloID's existence encourages more people to do code-switching (Jaksel) ?

indonesians are already code-switching between local languages and BI. i'm not sure where is this question directed at, their viewers? fans? it's a chicken and egg question.
are jaksel-like people drawn to HoloID or HoloID turn them into jaksel people?
All HoloID girls are jaksel except maybe for Kobo

>>25937288
autism

I WILL GROOM MY OSHI. WATCH ME

Kiara has two channels now
her alt channel is german-only
maybe some HoloID will follow if kiara's alt channel is successful
thoughts? is this strategy a number booster or number killer?

I never understand why I should hate Jaksel people just based on their lingo "tics" and netizens' judgment. I have never met jaksel people in real life.
Kek the power of the internet

>>25945194
Why would you think ID girls would follow the suit?

>>25944106
Who's your oshi, anon?

>>25945194
it would be funny if someone make a channel and the contents are in javanese

>>25945194
Why would they, if they want to expand their engagement its better to try live streaming on Instagram or tiktok

>>25951232
i swear they need to fire whoever in charge of holoid tiktok skit. It's just so bad I can't even meme it to make it looks good

>>25902734

There is alot good indie vtuber under 50k subs that makes me wonder why they arent in niji or other agency

Im into solace amerta rn, amazing voice.

https://youtu.be/_YxsZjHNLsA

>>25946334
Most of them are pretentious bastards who love to go to a bar with their friends and order a lot of expensive drinks but don't want to pay yet they love to flaunt how high class they are despite all of that

>>25946334
>>25946334
>I have never met jaksel people in real life.
God blessed your soul.

>>25946334
because you should not. they might be retarded for some but they still are indonesian, mostly.

>>25945194
holoID was supposed to speak indos in the first place
why would they need to make 2nd channel so they could speak full indos?

>>25954682
>they arent in niji or other agency
People really need to go out of their hololive and nijisanji bubble, be the one who support talented people without the yagoo and riku stamp of approval, especially people who want Holostars ID and brotubers. I started with hololive and moona and I'm glad to branch out, it rekindled my love for vtubing.
>>25954830
>>25955002
I think the anon could just straight up say "hey I think you shouldn't use 'bahasa' because *explains*", directly and straightly without other baggage.
I'm sorry if it's offensive but it's like if someone say "kys Cina" to me when I'm being greedy then he proceed to explain chindo stereotypes and his personal experiences with them. It's just an example though

>>25955934
>People really need to go out of their hololive and nijisanji bub
No

>>25959342
why?

>>25946334
because you should not hate fellow Indonesians regardless of their race status
except chinese medan why they even exist in the first place

>>25955934
i watch Kanna, i'm open at any vtuber on any corpo/indie as long i like them

>>25961930
what do you think about Re:Memories? I'm interested in Elaine and Chloe

>>25962103
Elaine SEX

>>25962754
t. Selia

>>25898160
Ok, so why didn't you post a link to her channel?

>>25963628
That's a good idea for future threads. https://www.youtube.com/c/MythiaBatfordCh

>>25961930
>last stream 3 months ago
Pain

>>25951232
Speaking of streaming elsewhere, there is an interesting trend happening In ID, it seems that bstation has become an alternative after nimo shutdown? Has anyone watched vtubers there?

>>25914927
>SL incident
Qrd? Couldn't tune in to anyone this week.

Uuuuuuoooooohhhhhhhhh

https://youtu.be/oytx09t2TX0?t=1072

>karaoke can't beat moba
Why?

>>25968828
Because (you)

>>25960196
For me personally, I don't have the time to even keep up with my holo and niji oshi anymore, so I can't be bothered to checked out indie / small corp chuuba
(I only able to checked out their vods during weekend or sometimes watched them live if they're happen to stream at night time)

>>25969071
that's fair, no one has the time to watch every vtuber under the sun. though, it's very interesting to see indo vtubers outside the holo-niji sphere. all of them are affected by miti and kobo incline positively. now is the perfect time to groo- i mean support local chuubas, do it if you could

saw clip of reine swearing in indo give me an erection

>>25966023
>it seems that bstation has become an alternative after nimo shutdown?
Any sauce for this rrat?

>>25971811
Check alterly schedule, they used to be on nimo but they wanna do bstation now

>>25972026
>alterly
How big was their ccv numbers in nimo?

>>25966023
I never know id vtuber streaming there, i only know nima who often streaming in b2.

>>25914927
>SL's incident.
The fuck is this? Also, what's the deal with the schizo?

>>25960770
I heard Chinese Medan are racist towards other Chindo? Is that true?

>Miti is more hesitant to play Apex, said that she wants to find other games to play
Hop in to her Space: https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1vAGRkBRnlPJl

>>25972277
Seems like they have a popularity war(?) rn with somewhat interesting prizes too
https://www.bilibili.tv/marketing/activity-Sd4p4xSzlK.html?fbclid=IwAR1HCYjD6BFfI1bIrgcEtX6-K8TujQBdDC_XWaxJU9sOsiMZ08kYpTLPCBU
rn it seems to be a battle between alterlt vs re:memories at the top

>>25974759
>replying to the schizo

hi, /warkop/. im a male and i will prolly debut as a vtuber soon. any suggestions?

>>25971811

>>25976169
Play fighting games that is not smash pls

>>25976169
Are you that anon from /asean/?

>>25976570
i don't play fighting games
>>25976653
no

>>25946334
you're lucky you never met them

>>25976169
Idk, do you want to raise your numbers? There's two path that you can go, goes fujobait or plays mobile game shit, preferably ML or FF. You should also be active on Tiktok or other social media, basically always shill yourself and interact a lot with your fans. Lastly, shill your debut in an ID vtuber group, at the very least there will be 5 or so people that will watch your debut

>>25977104 (me)
*ID kikebook vtuber group

>>25977104
i'm planning to do videos. spoiler alert, mostly not gaming. that's all i can say. about shilling, i have plans for it, don't worry

>>25976169
do vtuber news but Indonesian/SEA

>>25968828
Karaoke is a debuff for Ollie anon, nobody want to hear her sing.

>>25971575
Reine is definitely one of the most "barbar" from holoID. IMO Reine and Ollie are unironically the only two from holoID that can actually ve big if follow Kobo and pander to IOP, which they obviously won't do since they already have an established and loyal fanbase.

>>25955934
>the anon could just straight up say "hey I think you shouldn't use 'bahasa' because *explains*"
I'm that anon, and do you think i never try that? kek. I've tried anon, those Jaksellian never listen, read my (3) point. They think we're kampungan for not using "Bahasa".

I'm not really serious anyway, just in a bad mood because of that bastard referee and just want to shitpost kek.

>>25974990
Is she good at it? I think Apex is very tricky, you need to be atleast decent at it for the stream to be entertaining. Valorant is better if you just want to pew pew for fun.

>>25976169
Please ugly bastard model

>>25977547
this, but please keep it to only news and dont try to be smart and make "analysis" like Valrius.

>>25977606
>have an established and loyal fanbase
>Ollie
>see >>25968828
Rumao

>>25977606
>just in a bad mood because of that bastard referee
This is your brain on indosiar divegrass

>>25976169
get actual females to draw your model. the opposite gender knows what the fuck sells and whats not. Fucking tired of male vtuber avatars literally just being their thinly veiled OC from when they are 13 years old.

>>25977700
Valorant definitely better if she want target mainstream market, every cool kids today playing valorant, not to mention you have better chance to get bigmoney viewer with playing valo than playing apex

>>25977376
programming/coding?
i'll watch you.

>>25977547
>>25977916
Valrius is more of video essay than vtuber news because he insert his own opinion to his video, seriously we need ID FalseEyeD who only bring news to the table

>>25976169
Mobage, interact lot in twitter & kikebook to promote yourself & as base to collab in future, goes total no in between (full gremlin/full zoomer/full sweaty gamer/full anything that u choose), Lastly love and accept ur own fanbase

>>25977716
eh, it's not
>>25977547
>>25977916
>>25978721
not really into being a vtuber journo, but i do want to make videos like val. of course, i try not to be him. his kobo video is crap and it doesn't explain anything other than "the normies and the simps are fighting each other!!!". for news, there's pasha lovarian but as one anon said, he's indo herohei
>>25978603
not into coding, sadly

>>25978721
Yeah that's what i mean. we need ID version of FalseEyeD. Pure news without any opinion.

>>25978952
well, good luck then if you want to make video like Val. there are a lot of interesting topic that you can talk, /warkop/ and other general already have a lot of nuance discussion that are much better than simply "A vs B".

>>25978062
NTA but ollie's singing is bad. not as bad as it is soul, just bad.
but then, it is true that she have her own established and loyal fanbase just like anon said, it is just not that many.

>>25979631
indeed. you don't even need to make videos based on the hottest topic. a lot of people are still clueless on vtuber etiquette for example. those "veteran" fans just told the newbies to read the rulez instead of guiding them. how could you even cultivate a community with that attitude? yes, newbies are annoying but they will be your successor.

>>25978062
Well, if you bother to scroll up a little bit i already answer that.
>Karaoke is a debuff for Ollie anon, nobody want to hear her sing.
Bad singing is bad singing. They love Ollie, they just love their ears more.

>>25980108
You know what's more stupid? Veteran fans, some holomem, and their staff actually never read their own rules kek. There are NO RULES that said you can't spam in some of the holos channel (including Ollie), just that you can't spam emotes. So yeah, that "gak bisa bahasa engresss" kids actually didn't break any rules kek.

>Gerard Wijaya become vtuber
lmao, now we need Milhya vtuber debut

>>25976169
just be entertaining, and do your networking reps

>>25980444
what the fuck, even 1view indies can do better than that

>>25980807
if i can be frank, im not sure how to be entertaining. but i will try to be different, i guess. for networking reps, will do.

>>25980825
They actually updated their rules, some members changed it and all ID3 use the new rules. It's just funny that some members like Ollie and Moona still kept the old rules and i never see anyone point this out.

>>25980444
>So yeah, that "gak bisa bahasa engresss" kids actually didn't break any rules kek
The problem was never about them "breaking rules", but great job with your strawman

>>25981212
I know, i'm not saying they're right anon. I'm just agreeing with this anon>>25980108 anon point that out as a fun (and stupid) fact.

>>25981374
*and point that out

>>25981212
It's all technicality, a person with common sense will already know that spamming about something in a place is bad. About the whole thing, do you think Ollie could handle it better, anons?

>>25981439
We don't spesifically talk about Ollie btw, just general "how to handle a newcomer". IMO this is all you need >>25980108 guide them, if they don't want to listen then ban them. it should be guide and then filter, not filter immediately.

Talking about "ga bisa basa enggres" don't anon here think it's interesting how that sentence evolve from a meme to a spam then suddenly become a complain that supported by some sane people with good arguments. It's also funny how people use ollie rant clip out of context and make it look she hate to speak Indonesian when she speak the most id in her gen (even the entire branch pre gen3). At some point I can't decide who had the best arguments in that drama. Well I'm glad to see those guy who want holomem that speak id 50% of the time already have gen3 so gen 1 and 2 can speak English more freely. But that what I was thought before until I notice recently gen 1 and 2 somehow speak more and more bahasa and then now on vt some eop start complaining because "holoid" member speak too much Indonesia and they feel left out. How the table has turn kek.

>>25982055
>she speak the most id in her gen (even the entire branch pre gen3).
idk if ollie still does it. but i personally dislike her self translating. unless it's somethine really important selftranslating only ruins the flow for me. but from what i read a lot of people seems to like it so maybe i'm in the minority.

>>25982055
>recently gen 1 and 2 somehow speak more and more bahasa
If they didn't use any language. How did they communicate before gen 3?

>>25982828
Now this is how to do it properly, good job anon.

>>25982055
>then now on vt some eop start complaining because "holoid" member speak too much Indonesia and they feel left out
Kek. Numberwise, there's too mamy EN speaking chuuba, gen 1 and gen 2 was debuted before there's a rise in EN speaking chuubaa (pre Myth and at the start of Myth incline respectively), so it makes sense that they speak EN a lot more. But now there's a bunch of of EN speaking chuuba already and I guess now, EOP pandering is declining (see Salome EN learning stream). Now is literally the best time to speak ID more
Also anon, use BAHASA INDONESIA, don't use bahasa, it's retarded

>>25982901
>EOP pandering is declining
With holoID as exception, IF you really want growth and number, i don't think it's worth it unless you go all out (stream on twitch, at EU/NA hours, and use western jokes). Yes, there are a lot of EN speakers in Asia/SEA, but a lot of those countries (including ID) also has more local vtubers now. Even Luxiem recline also i'm not a tribalfag, but it's funny skimming /#/ whenever Kobo stream big games since she somehow almost always beat Vox kek. the shitpost is funny to read for me

If you only stream as a hobby then speaking EN js fine i think if you more comfortable with that.

>use BAHASA INDONESIA
Use Indonesia or Indonesian anon (Indo for slang if you lazy), unless you also use Nihonggo instead of Japanese.

>>25983353
>spoiler
Kek, I always send picrel

>>25982055
>even the entire branch pre gen3
Do gen 3 members (beside Kobo) speak Indonesian a lot?

>>25983587
>kobo beating vox
one hole crowded: o kawaii koto desu wa ohohohoho

>>25984464
Yea, at least 70-80%

>>25984464
Yes they are, even zeta surprisingly use a lot of Indonesian compared to her senpai outside her SC reading section

we really need ID version of FalsEyeD desu
covering big, small corpos, indies, etc. doing interviews
I hate to open /vt/ let alone /warkop/ just to search ID vtubers news/trends
I don't need analysis, only news

>>25982055
>>25983353
how about reine? Yes she did speak a little bit more indo than before, but recently she had a lot of stream at eu hours. something must be happen in her trip with kiara, i think reine now trying to get kiara market with streaming at eu hours and kobo market with playing popcap game like insania aquarium. Well she is a smart buesness woman after all, I think she know what she is doing.

>>25984464
>>25984947
i think Kaela is the one who stream in English the most (except her WR stream where it's just a coin flip what language she will use kek). Sometimes it could go as high as 95% English depending on the game.

>>25985713
I think she join hololive to practice her english, anon
kaela is such a weirdo, man

>>25985587
yes
also Val, if you're /here/ please stop making analysis video and just focus on news. you already have followers and you can be good as a news vtuber. unless you really love to make clickbait video.

>>25985794
that's..... a weird reason to join hololive. altho by joining hololive you're guaranteed to get decent EN fans and interaction is the best way to improve your English so it's not that weird i guess.

>>25986063
ironically her generation have the most local viewers than her senpais lmao

>>25985713
Not only wr, her other regular stream like raft and minecraft also 60%+ spoken in Indonesian. She only speak English most of the time when she play a random game.

>>25986177
The era of EOP pandering is reclining and it's gonna be completely gone by the time EN3 debuted

>>25986342
coincidentally all those 3 games is pretty famous for ID youtuber/streamer

>anons learn how to be direct and straightforward
Oh it's working

>>25982055
mostly gen2. gen1 has already started using more indonesian way before gen3 debuted (and they've always mainly used indonesian for collabs).

kobo GTA SA would be epic lmao

>>25983353
>Use Indonesia or Indonesian anon
Using "Bahasa Indonesia" is correct, because it's the official name.
Using "Indonesian" is correct because it refers to the language.
Using "Indonesia" is wrong, because it's the country.
Using "Bahasa" is just plain retarded because it means language.

People who use "Bahasa" usually people whose English is lacking, thinking that you can't use "Indonesian" because it only refers to the people. Why do they think EOP will know what "Bahasa" is whereas they don't even know what country is Indonesia.

Hey outdonesians, use "bahasa" and "Jaksel" to get a lot of (you)s

>>25986177
>>25986348
it's hard to be loyal if you stream in the morning in their local time. especially if you're not WFH/SFH anymore. it really helps i think that Moona stream in the morning a lot.

>>25986342
well, that explains it then. i mostly watch her random game stream kek

Bahasa, Bahasa Indonesia, Indonesian, whatever, none of the talents speak formal Bahasa Indonesia anyway lol

>>25987100
Bahasa jaksel will now replace bahasa indo

>>25987203
non-formal Indonesian is also Indonesian anon. you can find a lot of the slang and informal words in kbbi

Not the two anons above but I think it's alright to call it bahasa, when you don't know if the speaker is from Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, or Brunei

I think the main gripe with Jakselians can be boiled down to them being spoiled, morally elitist city people
To put it into perspective, if Indonesia is burgerland, people from Jaksel are the Californians.

>>25987351
Foreigners using "Bahasa" is not a problem anon, so that anon who make a bait and probably replied to himself since he got 0 (you) is retarded.

Meanwhile, Indonesian who use Bahasa when talking to foreigners are retarded, since most of them don't know what tf Bahasa is. It's even dumber when they said "I don't understand Indonesian" and then you replied with ".... Bahasa..." (i'm sorry Kobo, but what you did is retarded). It's literally teaching foreigners wrong stuff.

>>25987517
Or to put it even more simply,
Jaksel-Indonesia
Burgerland-Restoftheworld

>>25987625
I'm asking my bule friends, most Indonesians went apeshit when they assumed the wrong nationality. They are not that stupid, I guess.
If you want to think of it as "retarded" then fine, but don't derail too much from the topics, be a schizo or give meaningless (you)s over the smallest things

A lot of Outdonesian holoID fans use "Bahasa" because holoID and their fans use it kek.
I personally don't mind, but it's definitely retarded kek.
When other country try to make people use the correct name, we're actively pushing people to use the wrong name kek.

It's not a big deal, but definitely retarded.

>>25988056
as an outer, i use "indo" when refering to the language because bahasa isnt a name of a place, place named languages are easy for people to generally pickup on when out of the loop.
plus language language Indonesia.

>>25988722
>bahasa isnt a name of a place
bahasa means language.
bahasa indonesia = indonesian language
bahasa inggris = english language

>>25988056
All HoloID girls are jaksel

>>25989169
yes anon that was my point

Any unicorns here?

>>25988722
t. Seamonkey

>>25990236
Yes

>>25990364
Kill yourself incel.

>>25990391
Seethe

>ITT anons being mildly OCD and autistic

>>25990364
>indonesian
>unicorn
lu virgin bro?

>>25990364
>>25990434
kys unicorn

>>25987625
>kobo is a jaksel girl
Oh no no no
How do we cope, fellow kobokeks?

>>25990489
>>25990616
feels ironic of you to say that when most baits I lurked here praises unicorns

How to get zen out of Kobo's circle?
I'm not jealous or being an unicorn, I just hate leeches.
I don't want an Ollie 2.0 I mean fck that ho, she caters too much to the EOPs
I wonder how many anons here membered holoID, these damn poorfags
Man, kobo is so much better and down to earth than her International school jaksel senpais. I love my Muslim primubi rain shaman wife, she never miss shalat. Hmph these elitist fans are trying to keep wibu rohis like me out. Too bad for them because kobo hates the Chinese and the Christians.
If only outdonesians could understand Indonesian language (not bahasa because everyone who refer to it as "bahasa" are retarded), Taiwanese would be shocked by how much she hates cina especially the one from medan.

>>25991567
too long didnt read.

Our thread is too sanitized and doesn't have many trolls and memes. I just realize