/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>26021689
the Aztecs with the Spanish too

>>26021689
Is freedom just codename for whore?

>>26021689
>advertising freedom in the most conservative and conformist society on earth
Are these bitches retarded?

>>26021689
Keep on seething, holokek.

>>26021882
Who is this advertisment of freedom even for? To I as a viewer gain anything from their freedom? Or is this for applicants?

>>26021844
Yes.

>>26021908
RENT FREE

>>26021908
Let me guess, you're gonna say something about collabs?

>>26021908
iron mouse and conner and just the shittier version of roberu and mea

>>26021689
>Let's talk about cum, shit, piss and getting high
>Japan
I wonder how this will turn out, seriously, it will be interesting to watch.

>>26021980
So about the same as Nijisanji jp?

>>26021916
Its for people sick of the fake forced idol shit

>>26021844
That’s always what it means if a woman is invoking it, yes.

>>26021980
It might work thats how tamaki and kagura mea use to talk before starting noripro

>>26021689
Honest question, if they really did hire some retired JAV actresses to slut it up as much as possible do you think they'd actually appeal to the Jap audience? I hear porn stars are actually more respected over there as genuine celebrities.

>>26022055
Ironic since Veibae and Nyanners are the fakest bitches in the industry. And nyanners paid the price for it when her fans found out.

>>26022055
>forced
Kek

>>26022102
Did i stutter? Shits wack

>>26022098
>using a inaccurate tracker
man you holoshits really are desperate huh, the new members are gonna get a free ticket into collabs with hololive btw

>>26022094
its possible. some indie japanese vtubers talk like the vshoujo girls do

>>26022147
>using a inaccurate tracker
>source: my ass

>>26022145
Leave, normalnigger

>>26022145
fr no cap

>>26022170
it’s literally proven by mouse, on the site it sys she has 8k subs while in reality she has 15k which is proven by this tracker she keeps active while streaming and updates every second

>>26022145

>>26022240
Yes because Ironmouse has no reason to lie about her subs whatsoever.

freedom from talent

>>26021689
>attacking Hololive in public
lol

>>26021689
> talent freedom
to talk about sucking dicks, cum and period shits, political activist shit about feminism and call all their fans beta cucks every week withoit backlash

>>26022465
so you admit Hololive is opressing their talents with idol culture shit?
>>26022487
and marine does all of this

>>26022519
>and marine does all of this
So you admit Hololive doesn't oppress their talents?

>>26022519
You just contradicted yourself.

>>26022519
if you think marine acts anything like vshoujo does then your chris chan levels of delusional

>>26022094
what self respecting porn actress would demean themselves enough to join vshojo?

>>26022055
How are Japanese people supposed to understand this? Also they have Nijisanji for this.

>>26021844
Yes, that's why americans loves freedom

>>26022519
>so you admit Hololive is opressing their talents with idol culture shit?
You're putting words in my mouth? My impression is that Holomems enjoy and want to stay in Hololive and if they really want the "freedom" they can just go the Coco route. There is more freedom in this then trying to force an ideal on people what they should enjoy.

>>26022581
Projeckt melody

>>26022555
Sorry I am just a Nijinigga

>>26022584
They also have noripro and kagura mea And now they have vshoujo jp

>>26021844
Female streamers + Freedom
What could go wrong?

>>26022688
>multiple breaks, breakdowns, depression arcs, crying on stream, no streamer safety
Wow i loooooove idol culture

>>26022840

I mean the idol standard has quite a few upsides that seem to be forgotten by the “freedom” and “self doxing” crowd
There is a good reason why the most successful holos are the ones who stayed the most true to their “character”

>idol culture
>parasocial
>unicorn
>simp
>GFE
>BFE
>doxxing
>botting
>genuine
>fake

>>26022968
You mean like mori? Lol shes the most successful en right now with concerts and record labels lol

>>26022055
Let them watch Netflix and capeshit then.

>>26023040
Nah il watch vshojo and nijisanji and you will cry and seethe

>>26022922
> t.

>artificial
>chemistry
>cuck
>incel
>ESL

>>26023033
Yes, its was thanks to idol shit she got anywhere, she only started publicly rejecting it once she already had a channel that was too big to fail

>>26023054
I couldn't care less.

>>26022816
Noripro is even more tightly controlled than Hololive, Tamaki isn't afraid to fire talent if they step out of line at all

>>26023033
>t. doesn't watch Mori
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1505115916941467649
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1505592488127389700
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1510964508604260358
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1505506437115662339

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1505161978477645828

>>26021689
I'm glad you understand us dude, make sure to drive them from your shores. does chromeferret have model that looks like that?

>>26023207
I really liked lilith but its undeniable what she did was a fireable offense

>>26022519
You outed yourself by mentioning marine. What a retard

japan ran fate grand order ads on times square so what makes this any different

>>26023587
Wait, what happened to Lilith?

>>26021689
>This is like what the native americans had to go through
What the hell does this have anything to do with reservations and diseased blankets?

>>26023835
she sold sexual voice packs tailored to the buyers fetishes behind the companies back. Also she is rumored to have been a coke head

>>26024356
Kek. You know, I've been wondering for a while - why are corpo vtubers not allowed to release erotic voicepacks officially? I can understand Hololive, cause muh idol and shit, but what about Nijisanji and small corpos?

>>26023890
The whores are the blankets

>>26023188
Yet you cared enough everyday to cry about it here

>>26021689
Well Puerto Rico is still a US colony.

>>26023890
>>26024445
Ironically Hololive was meant to be a psyop to recolonize China with anime girls.

>>26024436
from what I understand selling an erotic voicepack as a company in japan is a legal grey area on if it counts as prostitution

>>26021689
I don't think what she has is contagious, though.

>>26024436
Because of corporate sponsorships and partnerships.
Businesses don't want to have their brand name associated with a company that has employees who promote explicit whoredom.
In Japan it probably affects your standing with banks in regards to gaining loans too.

What's up with people not understanding the difference between """idol""" culture and JP corporate culture? Why are the majority of examples of "idol" culture in this thread about copyright law and corporate protection legalese?

>>26024697
its starting to affect america too thats why pateron and youtube have been getting stricter

>>26024712
Twitterfags don’t have any idea what they attack, they just attack by reflex.

>>26022314
That may or may not be the case, but it's irrelevant speculation.
>>26022240
What would help here is a more accurate tracker, not pretending you btfo'd the entire argument by saying the number isn't what it should be. But what do I care, this is numberfagging. I don't fucking care about their ccv or subs or follows.

>>26024712
Massive hateboner for idol culture has these people blindly attacking anything even remotely related to Japan

>>26024436
Corpo IP and difference between a grey area that should and shouldn't be crossed. From consumer perspective it doesn't seem like it'd be a big deal but obviously the company didn't want her doing it but she did anyway meaning she's monetizing corporate IP without their consent.

>>26022922
I can live with this.

>>26023147
Idolshit being what, exactly?

>>26024859
O-oh noooooo... What a terrible world. Being the 6'4" and jacked 20"-penis haver I am, I would hate to wake up in a world like that and have to have sex with anyone other than the supermodels I currently bang on the regular.

>>26024768
Cool, so you're claim that the tracker is incorrect is also irrelevant speculation.

>>26023147
lol
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1535978171773747202

>>26023890
I think he's implying it's some sort of cultural genocide

>>26025085
Performing her rap song on stage isn't idol shit.
Also this same event had a bunch of Niji girls, including the bf rimjob girl, so I don't know what you think it proves.

>>26022098
holy kek

>>26022846
explain how those are bad

>>26022846
explain how those are idol culture

>>26026671
>explain how bad things are bad

>>26021844
Talent Freedom (to suck dick)!

>>26028106
>doesn’t expound as to how they are bad

>>26028360
Anon, if you don't understand why mental breakdowns, depression and crying on stream is bad that's a (You) problem

>>26028479
Those are all facets of women simply existing, now kindly piece together how this correlates with your argument against idol culture.

>>26021689
>getting triggered over the word "freedom"
The absolute state of /vt/

Look a new one. Pretty cool.
https://twitter.com/akiba_asterisk/status/1536290768020656128?s=20&t=3gdm74ZIC6H0Ys0sBOKaag

>>26028732
Given Vei’s previous comments and Twitterfags exploding in rage over Rushia’s termination —despite only caring about her enough to use her for their “arguments” — there’s little room for the wording in the ad to not be directed at the dreaded Japanese corporate/workplace culture. This is Vshojo, after all; their primary audience likely affirms this sentiment by reflex. There’s also the question of deploying such an ad in this specific vocation.

>>26023060
Yes she will never sleep with you, get used to it incel. Now watch her stream where she talks about her daily life for 5 hours as cum drips out her pussy

>>26021844
>muh freedoms
>im woke
>hypocrisy

amurica be like

>>26021844
Freedom has always meant freedom from responsibility. That's how you get degenerate shitholes like Burgerland.

>>26022519
>and marine does all of this
come on anon, at least watch some clips

>>26024712
Just like the west says "fujo" on every female otakus and every doujin means "manga porn"

>>26000000

>>26021689
Freedom to do what? Be absolute inexcusable cunts to other people like Vei and her sorry excuse for a human boyfriend Sodafaggot?

>>26022055
like how a whore fakes being seiso after betraying multiple fanbases online for a decade, then announces her boyfriend on live stream and loses her entire fanbase once again?

>>26031292
So Rushia?

>>26031292
Lol she was never seiso kid her first content was literally “how can say you love her if you cant even eat her poop” stop reading too many schizo rrats

>>26024712
“Idol culture” is a term used solely by people who don’t actually know anything about idols.

>>26024859
You just know the play had a bit where some women argued who was the ugliest among them.

>>26022098
>Takes a month off
>Number of subscribers go down
It MUST be because she got a bf!

>>26025221
>doesn't know what an idol is
You know in japan there is literal JAV idols?
OAP idols?
The kind of idol you're thinking of is specifically the kind where they start off as children.

>>26023147
People keep bringing up "Idol Culture" when it comes to vtubers. There's so much shit those girls can do that they would never in a million years get to do in actual "Idol Culture". Not to even start with maintaining physical appearances. Which as far as I know, no chubba has to really worry about.

>>26021689
More like a 21st century Perry expedition.

>>26021689
>English in a Japanese subway

yea they're DOA, no expectations.

>>26022055
>fake
>forced
???
take your meds grandpa, it's time to sleep.

>>26024712
'idol culture' has yet become another buzzword and strawman for the mentally ill to attack and justify their hatred for life.

>>26021844
"talent freedom" means "vtubing but with way less japanese-ness", which is vshojo's whole brand.

>>26022519
actually its because they specifically use the word 'talent', which is Holoive's term for its streamers, same as nijisanji with 'liver', unless Vshojo is trying to market itself as an idol streamer group??? Anyways regardless of what Hololive does, this would still be directed specifically at Hololive with its accusation, actually in quite bad taste, do they want to earn themselves antis off the bat or something?

>>26021689
Reminder that the vshitshow official pictures are way worse than their shitty models

>>26036479
and that's why they're inclining

>>26036593
>inclining

>>26036521
Holocope, you realise holo models are basically the second worst models in the industry right? cover would rather spend millions on a anime then actual good rigging and models, shit they gave kiara a 10$ outfit for her anniversary

>>26036593
its also why a push into the japanese market is pretty much insane

>>26036827

>>26036240
Assuming this is Tokyo, it's pretty standard.

>TALENT FREEDOM

Vshojo chads taking a big shit on Hololive is pretty based if you ask me.

I wonder what Towa and Laplus think about Hololive's restrictive control prohibiting them from playing the games they want with their friends.

Hololive and it's cultists keep on losing.

>>26036827
Not to mention the gura situation, a half assed model with no working rigging

>>26036979
Hololive restricting what games their talents play is a GOOD thing you fucking retard. Women are whores that need a strong leash kept on them at all times. Giving them freedom to play what they is giving them the keys to act like complete sluts. You cannot allow them to be too relaxed otherwise you get vwhorejo

>>26037234
>breakdowns on stream, long breaks with shit excuses, depression arcs, voice excuse, self harm, pitty posting
Wow i love idol culture restrictions, its really helping my oshi have a good mental state

>>26037312
Whos your oshi

>>26037356
Im a whore so I’ve bounced around a few rn its ayame but edging towards marine

>>26037447
So game restrictions hurt Ayame how?

What is this thread about anymore?

>>26037234
Holy holoincel batman

>>26021977
Roberu is actually good.

>>26022094
Gundou does very well.

>>26022240
She has 15k sub POINTS. Subs can count for up to 5 sub POINTS if they're tier 3 subs.

>>26037234
please take a shower

>>26037312
Those have literally nothing to do with idol culture restrictions, not sure what your point is.

>>26037234
This is the average Hololive fan

>>26021689
Its funny that Veibae is being used for these ads, I always got the vibe that she hates being a representative for the company, doing diplomatic shit, when she would rather fuck around doing what she wants

Is going seiso even viable for non holo vtubers?
Competing with the market leader in their specialty is pretty dumbö