/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I hope the new Takamori collab is as kino as A Way Out was and I am lowkey hoping that Kiara recommends Nier Automata to Mori.

Marriage for the purpose cuddling and adopting pets

I hope Mori gets to visit Australia with Kiara.

Kiara was talking about how she's going to paint her new apartment before moving in. Is that normal in "Australia"? Where I'm from, the landlord would take care of that before a new tenant moves in. A tenant would generally only do the painting if they needed to make spot repairs before moving out.

ARE THEY

>>2554618
In the head of /u/schizos, yes.

>>2554618
THEY ARE

>>2554618
>>2554667
GOOD FRIENDS

>>2554402
Probably because she doesn't like the current colours. She wants it to be light grey or something

>>2554618
>be kiara
>euro living in Japan speaks japanese and is also an ex-idol
>bisexual
>apply to be idol online
>"ok but we have a /u/ keyfabe going on, you're in love with uh Calliope Mori, she HAS to interact with you and play pretend"
>blonde D-cup high-spec tsundere dork that is sheltered but also sociable at times and also raps and also lives 15 minutes away from you
>invites you to go to the onsen week 2
It reads like a made up wattpad story.

>>2554402
Yes. The previous owner is requiered to remove the old wall paper/paint etc.

>>2554923
Ogey but why do you dox mori?
This is why you don't put other vtubers in the OP pic, it invites other fanbases like doxbeats.

>>2555079
that's based

>>2554689
Who fuck each other on the side

>>2555593
>Who fuck me on the side
fixed

>>2555079
Ahh, interesting. Thanks for the info!

Tenchou liked my comment, what is this feeling? This happiness?

EN 2 can't come soon enough. It'll tank Kiara so bad she won't recover

>>2556605
ogey

>>2556551
1 more like and she totally wants to fuck you

https://twitter.com/DoKomi/status/1382397420387102724

>>2556605
rrat

>>2556605
Meds

>>2556605
ogey

>>2556605
here's a response since everyone else is biting

>>2556605
Based

>>2556605
EN2 is almost guaranteed to have at least one other Euro and one other extrovert, so it can only be a net positive for Kiara in comparison to the genmates she has right now.

>>2553443
So which Mario game is going to filter Kiara next?

oh shit it worked
>>2525494

>>2557535
Please, I pray that someone who can actually match her energy joins EN2.

>>2559831
same, maybe I should be more active instead of just chat

>>2559831
Nice, good job!
I also got a like a like on youtube, twitter, and a reply from her on twitter. Got the chikin jackpot today. Youtube doesn't show me those notifications though for some reason.

>>2561082
actually it was 3 or 4 likes on twitter, I have to correct myself there.
/flex

>>2556069
'Ello KFP.

https://files.catbox.moe/v8h6xf.mp3

I thought Fly Me to the Moon was the best from her 900K karaoke, but I'm starting to lean towards Clarity as my favorite.

https://youtu.be/wEDK7BmaxPM?t=8976

She nailed the song and also clearly had a ton of fun singing it.

>>2565020
Thanks for giving me something to do on Sunday.

>>2559867
Praying too. For me the only one that seems to be able to match her energy, roll with the punches and even outdo her in the entirety of Hololive is Subaru.

>>2556605
Probably wont tank her that much. But someone from EN2 passing her really quick in terms of sub count and views would really make her go in a state of meltdown.

>>2567363
Don't, it's inevitable but let's just not worry about it for now.

>>2567363
Did the EN's cause the same thing to the JP's? Don't think their hearts are fragile.

>>2565020
Limiters BTFO

>>2559831
>>2560180
holy fuck i got one too
this is the first time. fuck i'm so happy about this

She is so cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_sF-tlfbEk&t=136s

>>2569623
her low voice is so hot, I wish we could get some more music from her, I need a Full EP

>>2567363
I'd argue they won't. Growth rates across all of Hololive seem to be on the recline for a few months now, to the point where I actually don't know if Kiara will reach 1 million before her birthday if the tendency continues. VShojo and NijiEN will also impact the future members' growth. The only thing going for them will be the Hololive brand, so I predict they'll reach 5-600k in 4 to 6 weeks then slowly inch closer to the Ina-Kiara duo, but realistically they'll not overtake them.
Excuse my numberfagging 40 minutes before a stream, I just find the topic interesting.

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1382678737074946049
Kiara called it yesterday

Jesus Christ KFP even told kiara that the Netcode is crap, she acknowledged that and even asked for potential alternatives like PARSEC but in the end "with calli being too busy to test that previously" It doesnt matter shit anyways.
And now what?!
I refuse to believe that Mori has no time to test the equip and connectivity maybe 2 hours before the stream. The "HoloEN tech is cursed" rrat Is just bad preparation, poor planning and shitty time management. How about one stream a week less and the other ones actually prepared, checked and ready instead.

>>2567363
Kiara is Gura's genmate, she knows what an astronomical climb is, I see no reason for her to dwell too much on this, she knows how things work already. Also, her numberfagging was never really an envy issue, but a self esteem issue and she had plenty of time to deal with and understand that.

>>2572370
Fuck. Time to go back to sleep, i guess...

I swear to god if they play phogs...

>>2572540
They're still collabing, just not It Takes Two

>>2572482
>The "HoloEN tech is cursed" rrat Is just bad preparation, poor planning and shitty time management.
You must be new here.
Well of course it's poor planning.

>https://youtu.be/EpNwZJ5xoj0
>Clubhouse
Damn it

Clubhouse 51 games.

>>2572741
>>2572762

Is it Saturday yet?

>>2572762
Aight, I'm tabbing out.
Wake me up when Holotalk begins.

Kiara's been pretty cute this stream

>"How's the weather?"
Or Kiara culd just add a sticky note that says "Calli please talk"

>>2567560
jp's had a good cope of 'en bigger population and potential market so its ok'.

Kiara has no cope to fall back on.

>Shadowverse implications
So what is it?

>>2573857
hololive tournament

>>2573857
probably a collab, shadowverse does collabs out the ass

>>2556967
I try to avoid cons by my people but if my oshi is attending i guess theres no choice. Glad that her part is virtual and not IRL

>Kiara: "It's ok, I enjoy sucking"
rrats????????????
also Kiara blowjob fanart when

kiara's l2d looks smooth today. issue fixed or is it just that whatever tech they use is hosted on mori's side?

>>2574400
I'm still convinced they send the tracking data to server at cover and only get a rendered video stream back. So cover maintains full control over any instances of the model. Especially since Kiara said during holotalk and the xmas presents collab how couldnt find others "in the room".

>>2556605
People said she will tank when Ollie debuted but she still doing fine

>>2554618
give me the fckn sauce

>I was always bad wiith balls
>I was always too scared of the ball
we can fix that kusotori

>>2574612
That doesn't make any sense unless they have a fiberoptic cable connected across the ocean to every EN and ID streamer's apartment. A contract accomplishes the same thing and costs much less.

>>2573453
Kiara's being super cute and Calli is just now finally waking up.

Stream was comfy but nothing special. Really would've wanted to see them play It Takes Two but at least we're getting that every week from now

>>2574855
It is still in progress
Sorry anon

>>2577018
It was for the better that It Takes Two didn't happen today.

I don't normally watch Kiara or Calli but I saw today's stream and it was pretty cute, I'm actually excited for It Takes Two now, seems like they evolved quite a lot since the debut.

They were wholesomely cute. Kiara's giggles made my day.

Member stream in 8.5 hours!

>>2577249
You should check out their A Way Out collab! Or at least the last episode (which I think was on Calli's channel), it's fantastic.

>>2577326
Forced yuri

Was Mori always imitating veibae or is it a recent thing? I don't remember her sounding like that before but then again I watched like 4 times in total months ago.
And did my retarded wife won at least one game? Its really painful to watch her sometimes.

>>2577635
She won a lot (for Kiara)! Won the square drawing game, hockey, memory, and checkers.

>>2577521
isn't the member stream the member stream at 2PM PST? 8.5 hours from now would be 4PM

>>2577856
8.5 would be 5PM PST, but I was being a dumbass and forgot to convert the EST on her schedule lol. Thanks for catching that, I would have missed it otherwise!!

>>2577249
You can watch all their collabs starting with the Spa Date one, all the collabs after that were great. (Yes, even the Q & A, it getd better quick)

>>>2577635
that's a new rrat

Missed the collab, how was it?

>>2579569
kino. As usual Kiara was the one setting the pace of the conversation and pretty much telling Calli to talk about something, anything, at times, but over the course of the collab it got better.

Based /u/ schizos

>>2580844
jesus christ, already?

Members stream soon.

>>2553443
Collab was great. I love how chill Mori was, shows how close of friends they are if she can be so relaxed and true to herself.

>>2582064
that better be the reason.
Without context and in Kiaras place I would almost be Insulted by the groundbreaking lack of initiative in the first half of the collab

>>2581794
Yep

how does mamaloni draw so much

>>2582296
Mori really comes off mean-spirited and disinterested but that's just an impression. That's why people in the first months thought she hates Kiara and her antics, when the opposite is true, actually. Mori is just an introvert and an autist, please be patient. As a deadbeat I watched that first part of the collab like "Oh Mori, you card" and Kiara wasn't upset by Mori's replies or reactions either, she too knows what kind of person she is.

>>2582458
>Kiara wasn't upset by Mori's replies or reactions either, she too knows what kind of person she is.
Do I need to post how Mori almost made Kiara cry right after their trip?
Deadbraps please go away.

>>2582607
>after their trip?
Yeah, that was more than 2 months ago.

Also, if speaking of different streams just last stream Mori talked how she's aware of how insensitive(?) she is. How she doesn't know how to properly respond and how she sometimes says something mean for fun but immediately regrets it.

>>2582607
Maybe she has gotten more used to Mori's style of communication by now?

>>2582722
She almost cried again like 2 weeks ago because Mori doesnt talks to her (ryza stream)

>>2582736
Well that was also after watching Ryza and that other girl exchange friendship bracelets... I didn't get the sense Kiara was getting upset in this latest stream.

>>2582607
dude, don't be like that.
KFP here and we all know both have mental issues and are personalities like night and day.
But that is no reason to shit on doxxbeat tourists tho, lets just hope they can handle their problems offscreen

>>2582736
already in the w linktards

>>2582736
Mori with busy with her EP, she didn't talk with anyone. And again, she's an introvert, I relate and understand her completely. If she don't talk to her it doesn't mean she doesn't care.
And Kiara cried because of a whole situation - the moment in the game being almost exactly how they parted back in japan. Riza or Claudia probably even said something very similar to what Mori said to Kiara and that's what opened the floodgates.

Suityan accepted the invite to holotalk, a nice run with Mel/Aki/Suisei

>>2582846
She cried because of the situation, but she also said she doesn't thnks Calli really cares about her.

>>2582865
Well, I don't remember what chat said, but they probably tried to reassure her that she cares.

>>2582865
She said she thinks Mori doesn't miss her, not that she doesn't care. These are different things. Still, Mori herself confirmed she misses Kiara and even if you don't take her word for it, she certainly seems to miss her considering how often she talks about her and how she talks about her. Kiara also knows how Mori is, she just gets insecure sometimes, but I agree with our deadbeat friend, Mori was relaxed because she was with Kiara and Kiara seemed fine, calm and even bubbly just to chill with her friend, so no need to overreact. Also, I don't even know how people would think that Mori doesn't care or wouldn't miss Kiara, we all know she cried during the karaoke farewell too. Mori wouldn't cry because of Kiara if those things were true.

I just rewatched that part of the Ryza stream, Kiara cried (and made those whining noises) a lot more than I remembered, poor girl.

>Kiara thread timelooping again to discussion about Mori's autism

>>2584071
It happens every time Mori is mentioned. But it will be fine because we have members stream soon.

>>2582851
I know I can't reasonably hold all KFP here accountable for what gets asked for Holotalk, and I'm aware that a lot of the questions are asked by those with little knowledge about Suisei, but I have a polite request to make to KFP here. If you do ask Suisei a question, please have some tact about how you do so if you really must ask about her voice. Also please don't ask shitty questions like 'haha suicopath haha shotacon'.

refer to >>2303975 for a bit of further elaboration on her voice issue
I regret writing what I wrote in the spoiler of that post; however it may sound, I'll always love Suityan's voice

>>2584071
better than the roommate rrat timeloop

Jesus Christ, Mamaloni.
https://twitter.com/CRUNCHY_MMLONI/status/1382785790950866946?s=19

Isn't night at Japan right now?

>>2584641
She needs lesbianism as much as breathing to live.

>>2584641
Mamaloni hasn't gotten her hit of takamori recently.
Also it's 5am.

what was that about shadowverse? I didn't see the collab.

Can anyone tell me if kiara has sung this during her streams? It's a nice little melody about a man who misses his wife
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--Vf0gqoO54

>>2584972
I hate every faggot that recommends this to her, there's more fucking german songs than just erika and rammstein

>>2584902
>Also it's 5am.

Sure, but I'm guessing she started drawing after the collab ended and I doubt she can do something of that quality without spending at least an hour.

>>2584952
They're doing a few sponsored streams.
Mori is doing deck building today and Kiara next week.
They will be getting coached the following week and face each other.

>>2554618
>>2554667
>Went to onsen
>wore no pantsu
Bro, you just know they fucked.

>>2584972
>>2585105
How about Blutengel?

>>2585105
Erika's a banger. Herms Neils is up there with the greats: nena, sandra, david hasselhoff

>>2585200
She had to have chat remind her who Arnold Schwarzenegger is, so she's probably playing "I don't like singing in German" as "I listened to weeb shit all my life and please chat stop asking".

>More takamori
uhhhhhh

She has chat working in her member stream, I thought she wasn't able to do that?

>No vshoujo shit
based Jenma

Have you prayed to Kiara today, fellow Kusotorians?

To those who have gotten their questions selected by Kiara before (especially those who have done it repeatedly), is there any pattern/strategy to achieving this?

>>2585350
This. Did people forget that she's been a weeblet for her whole life, grew up with a mom who had her playing computer games during the late 90's early 00's, and has wanted to go to Japan for forever?

>>2587154
Mail in more postcards than any of the other fans.

Do Australians really eat turtle eggs for breakfast?

>>2586873
I’m glad at least this got confirmed.
Some anon was saying that Mori T3 she mentioned they have a ban list but this confirms it.

Story i heard is couple of months ago during a new years party (same party where gura sleep with the guy that was engaged to be married, but that's another story) Kiara got drunk and started fliriting with Cali. Calis not a lesbian and was very uncomfortable by the whole thing, she rejected her very firmly, like the whole flirting thing is a show for yuri fans, only for the streams, cause that's how idol industry rolls but it's not real and Cali has already told Kiara to stop before. Kiara started crying and left the party. People say she went home to cry and stuff but that's not true at all, what really happened is much weirder. You see Kiara had really fallen for Cali, like hard, so that night she thought Cali was really gonna start loving her back (idk why she thought that, Cali is not a lesbian, but Kiara gonna Kiara), so in the face of ejection and alcohol, she went online and found an found an escort that looks exactly like Cali, like a doopleganger, she hired her and when she got there to the hotel to meet her it was like she was a twin. Kiara started crying in front of her and the escort just lead her inside the room, escorts are used to seeing people get emotional i guess. Escort tried consoling her and Kiara just hugged her and just said "please let me go down on you", and the escort, well she's an escort so she said yes. Kiara spend like three hours eating her out then crying, making out with her and then crying, being eaten by her and then crying. Kiara called the escort Cali while the whole thing was happening, just insisted on using that name.

Anyway afterwards she keep hiring the escort, anytime they had a collab stream, she would hire the escort afterwards. They went out to eat with Cali , she hired the escort afterwards. It became a pattern and to the few people that knew it was clear that it was pure coping. Anyway this pattern started making the escort uncomfortable, because Kiara was getting too attached, in a way weird way, again she just keep calling her Cali, so it was like she was using the escort to form some weird replacement relationship with Cali. So after their last session , escort sat her down and finally told Kiara she can't keep seeing her, she isn't interested in women beyond her job even, she also has a bf, etc, etc. Kiara freaked the fuck out, started crying, started throwing shit around, screaming "You can't do this to me Cali, i love you", escort tried to get her stuff and started leaving and Kiara got even worse, got on the ground "Please Cali don't leave me please, i will change, i love you so much, please", you know stuff like that. Again remember, while this whole thing is happening she is still referring to the escort as "Cali" , like she's 100% obsessed. Kiara tries to block the door, stop the escort from leaving. Escort takes out her phone, makes quick call and not even 2 minutes later someone is knocking the door, the escort opens it and in walks in her a shady ass looking guy, like a Kabuchiko type, you know what i mean. Guy grabs Kiara tells her to quit her shit and shut up and Kiara calms down or more like gets freaked out. They both walk out, she starts crying again and drinking and never sees the escort again, and that's more or less the end of that. Cali doesn't any of this, but some of the people that do know about this are glad that she is leaving because they think it will be good for her long term, she is top obssesed with Kiara to the point that of crazyness. Anyway now she is leaving so she should calm down and move on, maybe, hopefully, who knows.

I ain't reading that shit nigger

>>2587767
M E D I C A T I O N needed

>>2587674
I honestly want Artemis to get banned because Artemis basically raided Kiara and said "wait chat stop ;^)". If Kiara wants to play Phogs or whatever with a VShoujo girl I'll be a little put off but I'm not going to contribute to the shitshow it will cause here.

>>2587853
keep being delusional

50% CUT
JESAS

>Kiara contemplating moving to another country to avoid taxation
This is hilarious.
But she's right, 50% is absolute bullshit.

>>2587767
kek sounds like something a /b/tard would do

Kiara about to move to Texas.

>>2588209
>>2588240
>50%
Jesus fucking christ.

>>2588240
Pretty sure she was saying the 50% is after Cover takes their cut too.

>Everyone wants a portion of this cake
ya be

>Some secrets some of you guys know about
Kiara...

She just needs to reduce the iris size and make the lips a little smaller and it'll be there.

>>2588904
The lips are cute, the color was cursed. I think the feathers are too big too

MMLONI!

This double bgm slowly makes me lose my mind.

Kiara taking charge again. This is why she's da besssssst

>>2587767
Please tell me this is some fucked up copypasta and that you didn't actually write out this piece of crap.

>>2553482
Did Kiara cry from A Way Out?

>>2589774
Yep, and Calli's earnest efforts to cheer her up were adorable.

Uggghhh, tenchou, why is it always one step forward, 2 steps back? Just because you get criticized about one thing doesn't mean people don't like you for another. There's some understanding and leeway to your eccentrics, but it doesn't mean you should never look to improve.

>>2589457
it's true

>>2589457
I am a romantic in a traditional sense. People may disagree and even you may disagree but art flows from the mind of the artist. The art and the artist are not detachable. Hearing your story and witnessing your art, I see nothing but beauty in it. Your art shows you are a clever, creative and interesting, person with a clear vision for goodness. Potential hypocrisy here and there included. I think your personality, the personality that has brought about this story and art, is beautiful. I have no qualms saying it, nor do I think I'm delusional in thinking it. I don't have a doubt that your personality can be very ugly when you want it to be. But the presence of evil doesn't mean the absence of good. It's the contrast that makes you human and all-round, I believe you to be quite a good one. Perhaps when you were out and about taking people's lives you may have been a bit of a villain. A little evil comes with self-assertion and it can't be helped. And what if you slack sometimes, what if you sometimes think bad thoughts, what if you sometimes underperform or are forced to underdeliver on promises? You're human. Don't think you're a faillure for not being the textbook example of the perfect person, or even a 'normal' person for that matter. Everyone slacks but I don't believe for a second that you don't try. The clear amount of behind the scenes work you've done for your genmates and all of them unanimously and, from what I can tell, genuinely speaking positivly about you at every turn. The fact you were (mostly) voluntarily doing 3 things at the same time at one point, while you could have just taken the holomoney and ran with it. Even now you're still going strong with future plans. All of that combined and your general work ethic, dilligence, vision and self-critiscism are more than enough proof to me that you are a good person. You deserve all the kindness and if anything, you're only now getting the recognition you deserve.

So stop being so hard o n* yourself. Pretty sure you've heard that enough by now but that doesn't make it any less true. You are not perfect, nor do you need to be. Difference between having high standards and chasing perfection or infintity. Usually doesn't end well. I don't want to see you end up like another Icarus. It depends on you however. I'm not telling you to do anything. Your life is your life and yours alone. You don't owe me or the other dead beats anything. But please allow me to be selfish and to voice my concerns. Perhaps you need the pursuit of perfection and that constant pressure to perform to prevent yourself from getting complacent. If that is the life you choose then that is fine. It's strange but sometimes you almost seem guilty about it. Like there's something wrong with choosing your own life or with being yourself. There's a little evil in self-assertion, It can't be helped. I don't want you to feel guilt or regrets. I want you to be honest with yourself. If you want, you can lie to us as much as you like, doesn't bother me, but I don't want you to lie to yourself. And I know you don't like doing that either. If you need a break, I want you to take it. If you need help, I want you to take it. I don't want you to feel like you're alone because you're not. When I say that I want you to stop chasing perfection, I'm not saying that you should be complacent. Quite the opposite. I want you to be tough on yourself. Very tough even. I want you to push yourself. I want you to take up new challenges. I want you to strive for greatness. I want to see you shine, and I want to see you shine bright. I want you to prove anyone who doubts you wrong. I don't think you would have it any other way. But I also want you to remember to be realistic. You are one person. You can't always be at your best. You won't always be able to deliver on your promises. You won't always be happy or have confidence. There are times when you will feel lonely and defeated. You will doubt yourself at some point and it's fine. Just know that somewhere in the world, even if you don't, there's someone who believes in you. With all his heart. No matter what. And I'm not alone. Dead beats, let her hear it! Cheer for her and cheer loud! If you believe in her then tell her now! But only if you mean it. Your boy has no need for pretty little lies. Never give up and never underestimate yourself. There are people who believe in you. Not because they have to, but because they want to. Because they recognize how awesome you can be and how awesome you already are. You may be a goofball but you're our goofball. You may be only one person but you have the power to inspire people and to help them change their lives for the better. If that isn't what a good person is then I don't know what is.

Kiara keeps on winning! She got featured here in Germany in one of the big weeb print magazines along an anrticle about vtubers. Fly high little pheonix!

>>2589457
it's an old copy pasta, but like a fine cheese, it gets better with age

>>2590051
What are you even talking about? She was sad about getting shit on for talking over people and people were shitting on her for talking over people. She explicitly said she tried not to do that during the jackbox collab. Are you fuckers gonna keep posting the same shit or will you try opening your ears and actually listening?

>>2590240
>Everyone is the same person.
Seriously though, Uno collab was taken out of context. If you watched 2 or 3 clips, it makes it look like Kiara was stomping all over them and annoying her genmates, but watching the full vod, that's far from the case. It's obvious Kiara needs to be the one to put the effort forward and I'm really glad she had an off-stream chat with her genmates about the way things are going for them as individual streamers. They should want to communicate that way and I think Mori and Kiara might do it, but the others just sit in their shell. Obviously she can't make them talk, but it's a positive. The two steps back was her playing more "WOE IS ME!" and "YOU GUYS ARE SUCH FLIPFLOPPERS SOMETIMES" which is reductive thinking. Her practicing singing for her karaoke is nowhere near the same thing as "You talk too much and are loud". She was falsely equating things like that to try and deflect some of the criticism.
It kinda makes me laugh that she uses the chat as an emotional crutch in the same way that some of them use her as a GFE. Kinda poetic and maybe a little codependent. I love that Kiara is emotional and open in sharing all (most of) her thoughts with the chat and it's one of the things I love about her.

>>2590200
Fuck yea!

>>2590240
Well put.

>>2590474
>YOU GUYS ARE SUCH FLIPFLOPPERS SOMETIMES
hypocritical fags who play yesman for brownie points and then shit on her later deserve to be called out, if you can't be consistent in your beliefs then what worth do you hold? It's also pretty clear you aren't paying attention because she was not saying those were the same thing, she was saying that she was getting criticized for that as well and she was. A Get a hearing aid or get a friend to subtitle it for you if listening is too hard.

>>2590674
Alright fag. Feel free to try and also deflect the fact that she was using those as excuses to attempt to get sympathy and stop her mem's from criticism. It's obvious I'm a member and I really do enjoy her the most out of all the EN's and want to see her grow and kick ass becoming the true queen bee of EN Gen 1. I'm glad you also ignored every positive I had to say. Way to go, friendo.

>>2590838
>she was using those as excuses to attempt to get sympathy and stop her mem's from criticism.
Her calling out hypocrite KFP larpers who give her empty platitudes and then criticize her later isn't an excuse, it's a frustrating experience as a content creator trying to improve and seeing contradicting shit from your "fans" that you want use to improve. The fact that you're framing it as sympathy baiting and not understanding that she's opening up in a more intimate environment after being stressed for weeks is clear that you lack any sort of emotional maturity or rational thinking. I'm sick of seeing faggots like you give her "praise" and saying "positive things" and then immediately shifting into criticizing some bizarre bad faith reading of her actions.

>>2591105
>>2590838
You're actually both right, and both wrong. Both of you are actually making good points, but both of you are also not seeing all of those points in what the other is saying.

I'm so happy (and sad at the same time) that I was right.
From the moment I saw the jackbox collab I told you fuckers she is intentionally holding herself back, trying to change her character etc and it was obviously hurting her.
She confirmed it in this stream. She even made sticky notes to remind her not to talk and shit. She felt really bad about changing her whole core character.

But nooooo all of you fags told me she is not low energy at all. Always the same tenchou just slightly more quiet
AHHHHHHH

That was a good fucking stream.

>>2591105
Never pay attention to the live chat for criticism. Most just want to be read and assumedly post nothing but positive in chat because it's more likely to get read. I get that there are plenty of people who flip on their stances live vs vod/comments/twitter. What she needs to do is stop taking the live chats as a serious critique, because people get caught up in the moment as well.
Honestly, the reason I love 4chan is because each and every post is judged purely on what's in the single post and MAYBE what's in a post chain. It means that there is no baggage attached to a name like there is that she sees live vs comments. People are more open and while there's plenty of shiposting, there's plenty of serious comments here.

this stream made me so sad... i love her so much. i'm gonna play this on my phone as a ASMR substitute to help me fall asleep tonight

https://streamable.com/lqcwta

>>2591291
Kiara serious talk is great. I'm glad we could be there for the tenchou.

>>2591425
Shit, I know this song, but I can't think of what anime it's from. I remember liking the anime too. Anyone got it off the top of their head?

>>2591529
nope sorry no idea

>>2591349
anonymity is undervalued

>>2591529
Anohana
https://youtu.be/JRF5TIhshlo

>>2591425
>>2591529
Oh fuck, that's from AnoHana. I haven't heard this in years but I recognized it immediately. Love this song!

>>2591632
>>2591676
I knew it! I went and looked up the OP thinking that was it because I remembered hearing it while feeling terrible (and lots of characters crying on screen) with friends during a group watch, but the OP not being it made me stop digging and just ask

>>2591349
I agree, though with the degree of shitposting that goes on here at times I'd hope she doesn't spend too long at the wrong hours.

>>2591778
Remembering how sad AnoHana was, plus the member stream, plus the sweet way Kiara's singing it in >>2591425 is making me tear up goddammit.

I just want her to be happy. In real life I'm really good at talking with people and listening, and even giving advice on stuff like this. But during that member stream I was sitting there with my hands hovering over the keyboard not knowing what to type at all. I have no idea what's the right advice for that. She'll never escape the haters, we all know that from the fact that we are on this board. Can't change that, can't fix it, so why worry about it. But at the same time she is still trying to improve, and is always trying to get better at streaming for us, as she has said in the past many times. But when it came to this question I simply had no answer because... its just opinions and what is really the right answer? I understand the people saying she should hold back during collabs, but I really really don't want that to be the case either because I love the outgoing side of her personally that pulls me in to her world/conversation and drags me along with her. That kind of charisma is what makes me love watching her. It feels so nostalgic to me somehow, I used to have a few friends like that in my childhood.

I may not be able to do anything, but even so, I will keep rooting for her from afar. She wears her heart on her sleeve - you know what she's really feeling. You can see the person behind the mask, and that's one of the reasons why people who watch her love her so much. I don't want her to start trying to hide herself.

For the love of god I hope EN2 has someone in range for Kiara to do off collabs with, I hate her feeling like she can only vent to YTC, even if it is the members.

>>2591975
This is how I feel as well. I'm one of the people who disliked the Jackbox collab too. It just wasn't her. I love the old Kiara, that's who i fell in love with. I don't want to her change because some random antis who never watch her anyway said so.
I mean she said it herself: Even if she were to change and be exactly the way the antis told her to be, it wouldn't satisfy them. They will never like her no matter what.
Why even listen to them in the first place? Just trust in your fans who always watched you. They know best what they like.

She said she talked with all EN members yesterday for over an hour. They probably talked about Kiara's worries and told her everything is fine. That's probably why she brought it up today. Just to ask how chat currently feels.

>>2591975
Her talkativeness and openness make her fun and entertaining to watch. Most of the other EN girls are pretty private and basically play a character fully. Kiara plays herself. It ends up working well most of the time and can make people get pissy and attack her sometimes. Queen bee is the role I want her to play in the big collabs. Make her the boss, make her in charge of directing the other, because it's obvious none of them want to take control of the flow of the stream. The problem is all the autists that don't understand that there needs to be someone to take charge during those streams to keep them lively, entertaining, and interesting. Instead of realizing that none of their oshi's are going to step up and do it because they don't fit that roll, they whine that KIARA IS STEPPING ALL OVER MY OSHI!
Obviously 2 or 3 collabs is not going to be enough time for Kiara to figure out what is and isn't the right thing to do to help move the group to better big collabs and it takes time to build that chemistry so to expect her to be perfect and playing host on her first time are retarded and have never hosted anything. I don't ever want Kiara to do what she did in the Jackbox collab, but I feel bad because most of the jokes in Jackbox are American-focused so they go right over her head and she can't try and play off them properly.
>>2592205
I think it was more than that. She said they had concerns too, so I'm hoping they continue to communicate like this. If they don't keep up good communication, it makes it really hard for someone to 'host' collabs (i.e. probably Kiara) because they feel overly stiff because they don't interact all together all that much. Time and practice makes everything better.

>>2592077
Yeah I was worried she was going to shut herself off when she went back to Europe. It always seemed to do her a lot of good whenever she was able to talk with other holos in person. She seems really outgoing to us but she always says she's actually pretty shy. Like she won't go out of her way to vent to other people since she feels like she's bothering them. And of course, they are all busy and we all know how awkward/difficult it can be to just call somebody out of nowhere to talk/vent even if that person wouldn't mind it. So she's carrying it herself. I really hope there is a European in EN2 as well and that they can get along.

>>2592339
I don't know about other euro countries, but germany has a lot of small indies. France probably too. There is a chance COVER will recruit another european to fill the timezones more. So hopefully Kiara will have a new friend soon.

just a small reminder:

>you will never hug her
>you wil never tell her everything is ok
>you will never help her to improve while staying true to her core
>you will never smile at each other and look into her beautiful eyes
>you will never move her hair aside and kiss her on her forehead
>you will be here chatting with anons instead.

that's all. sleep well tonight.
i know i won't.

>>2592264
>Most of the other EN girls are pretty private and basically play a character fully
at least watch their streams before talking out of your ass, the other are pretty open about their lives (although some of them do it during member streams) don't bring them down just to compliment kiara

>>2592554
>>2592554
It's painful. But I chose this path. I am strong. My oshi is strong too and has gone through a lot worse than what I am going through. I will watch from afar, and I will buy her daki when it comes out to help me feel less lonely.

>>2592628
Not gonna lie, how the fuck do you have time to watch more than just Kiara's content. It's like 25+ hours a week worth of watching shit. I can barely keep up with just her shit alone.

>>2592649
based take

>>2592649
I can't wait for the Kiara daki and possible GFE oriented voicepack. Get ready to feel warmth in your hearts bois.

I'M GONNA SHIT THOSE PANTS REAL GOOD

Is she here?

>>2592554
>you will never hug her
fuck
>you wil never tell her everything is ok
in person? fuck
>you will never help her to improve while staying true to her core
done that
>you will never smile at each other and look into her beautiful eyes
fuck
>you will never move her hair aside and kiss her on her forehead
FUCK
>you will be here chatting with anons instead.
you guys are ok though

>>2592797
I work from home, and kiara starts early in the morning for me so I watch them from start to finish. After that, I Ieave the other's streams in the background while I work

>>2590474
>It's obvious Kiara needs to be the one to put the effort forward
That's bullshit. Everyone has been saying the jackbox collab has been the best collab in months, and I think its obviously because Kiara took more of a backseat. A collab should be equal on all fronts, let all the girls talk. Its ok to have a little bit of silence. If you read the comments of the UNO collab, its clear that even the general audiences were upset with Kiara's behavior. Meanwhile the general audiences and /vt/ had nothing but praise for the jackbox collab, despite most of their quiplash jokes being unfunny.
>but watching the full vod, that's far from the case
Again, everyone who watched the full vod still thinks Kiara was way too overbearing. Don't just take it from me or global, go on twitter or youtube comments and read what everyone was saying.
>but the others just sit in their shell
No they fucking don't. Watch the jackbox collab again. Watch any of ina/ame/gura's collab streams. They have fun and talk to each other. They are more softspoken and its hard for them to get a word in when Kiara won't stop talking over them.

>>2591105
Not everyone is the same person. Everyone has different tastes. That's part of being a content creator, you need to be able to listen to feedback and know what is real feedback and what is bullshit. These are lessons Kiara would have learned if she organically gained popularity, but instead she got the holoEN subscriber boost and now she doesn't know how to handle her audience.

>>2593454
I accept that it wasn't perfect. My issue I take is that she stepped back a lot in the more recent collab and I think it was because she had all that pressure to quiet down AND because half of the jokes didn't make sense to her as a non-American. I still think she would fit the role best for being the leader of bigger collabs and just needs to find a grove.

I don't even care if the relation KFP and Kiara have is weird or whatever.
I love this birb.

>>2594084
As a retard who had a waifu and is totally in for some GFE, this is what I NEED.

>>2593911
Collabs don’t need a “leader”. That’s a dumb idea, and I suspect you may be autistic.

How far are we from reaching this level?
And if she asks the same thing Polka asked here, what would you respond?

>>2595894
Believe whatever you want, but without someone kind of directing the flow of the collab, they;ll be gigantic messes every fucking time.

>>2595948
As much as I want to be there for her, I think I'd tell her she needs to go looking elsewhere for validation. Something physical away from the internet, because there won't ever be anything for her here. Dating fans almost always turns out shit, and as much as I want to date/get the GFE from my Oshi, I really think she needs to find that Australian/Jap boyfriend she probably wants.

>>2595948
Never and, honestly, you should never wish that on her if you actually care.You know that this won't last forever, so there's no need to make it more painful than it will be

>>2595948
>>2596124
>>2596225
I don't know if you've ever seen the movie 'HER', but it might be a real good watch for this shit. Funnily enough, I was reminded of the movie because I was listening to some Gura karaoke and she covered a song from it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIU5_GCNL8Q
Don't read the rest of this if you don't want spoilers for the movie + rrat: I think Gura kinda fell apart during singing this because she knew just how many people treated her like a girlfriend and it killed her to have to sing the song that the male lead (who fell in love with his AI girlfriend) and the AI girl sing and make up together.

>>2595964
As opposed to “shitting those pants real good”? No one wants to be ordered around by the least successful most unpopular member. If they want to be a failure like her, then they should listen.

>>2597109
>least successful
??? by what metric exactly?
In terms of concurrent viewers, nowadays there's not a huge discrepancy between the ENs not named Gura. And she's killing it in superchats because of consistency. She's on track to overtake a lot of Holos, especially once she gets her 3D, 2nd outfit, 1 year anniversary, etc. How is she a failure?

>>2590200
They didn't even bother searching for a better picture for her.

>>2595948
What was polka's question?

>>2593416
That's actually not a bad idea tbqhwy family. I've been looking for something to give my life a little bit of structure and that sounds like it might work.

>>2596124
She has serious trust issues, anon. She won't get a bf like that.
And she's unironically looking for someone who accepts her as she is and doesn't want her to change.

>>2597109
pathetic roastie

>>2597505
In every way possible, such as Total Subscribers, live viewers, VOD views, and Daily Subscribers. The only thing she excels at is milking paypigs, but even Mori has her beat in that category. So she is dead last in every metric except one where she is second place. Before you say “she has Ina beat in subscribers”, she had to throw a pity party in an attempt to gain a 6k lead but that is already down to 1k.

>>2597505
She is statistically the worst member of HoloEN. Not even taking in to consideration she has the worst design in all of Hololive.

>>2597109
>>2598817
Why are they answering to this faggot? from the moment he said "failure" you should realize that he's just fuckin seething because Kiara exist, it's just a buzzword that seaniggers use here

>>2598817
>Total subscribers, daily subscribers
How are these meaningful when most of them are dead subs anyways? Tell me.
>Live viewers
Like I said, there's not a huge difference between Ina, Kiara, Mori, and Ame nowadays.
>Second place in the most important metric.
So how is that a failure? You still haven't answered that question.
>Milking paypigs
So the crux of your argument is a cope?

>>2595964
Who said they have to necessarily be organized??? Some of the best collab moments were chaotic and spur of the moment. Plenty of great collabs happen in hololive all the time without a "leader".
Also who has the right to determine what the collab should and shouldn't be??? I don't like Kiara's content, so I don't think she should "lead" the collabs. I think its better we allow all the girls to contribute and allow the structure of the collab to be its own thing.
The way things are going right now (kiara leading conversation), the viewers aren't entirely satisfied. So why not allow for experimentation?

This guy who replied to you (>>2597109) is not me btw.

>>2599042
Getting the most money out of the smallest fan base is just sad for KFP, not something she should necessarily be proud of.

>>2599116
So you're just coping. Got it.

>>2599116
it's so obvious you're a tourist. just leave

>>2599177
>>2599186
yeah, many anons are just responding to bait, or are simply samefagging

Does anyone have some quality Kiara thigh pictures to post?

>>2599042
Using Ina as an example since they are the closest in sub count and were streaming at the same time yesterday. Ina had 3 times as many live viewers drawing Nier as Kiara had playing it. Gura averages 15-20k and Ame gets around 10k.

>>2599271
Pretty sure that was around the time where Kiara already finished the game. And she gets way better viewership when she streams at noon in Europe.
>Ame gets around 10k?
Really? Go to holostats and compare Kiara and Ame's recent viewership. Since you care about sub count so much you should factor that in as well.

If I were anon, I would simply not reply to bait

>>2599271
do live viewers matter more or is it the final number of VOD views? personally I go more with VOD because I can't watch it live due to being NA but her VOD views are very healthy, almost all videos have more than 100k or 200k if it's an event or a meme game, so if we talk about final views, yes, it's not that different from the others

>>2599623
yes, I'd better post some pictures of my Oshi, I found this one in the general

>>2599623
Bait? What bait? There's no bait

>>2599698
now that's the spirit!

>>2599666
Nope, not better in VOD either.

>>2599924
He didn't say better, he said it's not that different. Improve your reading comprehension.

>>2599924
This>>2599955 Learn to read SEAnigger

>>2599955
I am just proving how she is statistically the worst.

>>2600050
That wasn't the point though.

>>2600050
So that's how takodachi like to spend their time. Surprised that takodachi are like that when Ina is such an angel.

>>2600050
see >>2599544
you still haven't replied to that btw

Need more Kiara outfits stat.

>>2600208
I don't think he's takodachi, he's just retarded

>>2600050
nah, you said she was a failure, but keep seething, I love the reaction it generates to people like you just for existing

>>2600123
I said no one would accept a “leader” that is inferior to them in every way. She isn’t the leader of HoloEN she is statistically the worst member with the worst design in all of Hololive. So talking over everyone during a collab is obnoxious, not the “alpha Stacy move” as you seem to want to interpret it.

>>2600208
And Kiara worships her, And I really liked to hear how she loves gura too in today's stream

>>2600304
See the screenshot in
>>2599271

>>2600389
Yea! That was real sweet hearing how much Kiara pretty much idolizes Ina.

>>2600269
bottom right kiara is supremely cute

>>2600255
It’s not that hard to find for yourself, but here it is.

>>2600459
Holy shit he is a takodachi, what a shame

>>2600459
I have a membership to all of HoloEN excluding Kiara. Simply because I liked what I saw during those collabs, thats how I became a fan of each one. My opinion of Kiara is based solely off of her behavior during collabs, and it literally had the opposite effect. So unless she doesn’t want people to like her she should work on her interpersonal skills especially during collabs.

what a cute and funny interaction

>>2601081
now this is a cute chicken

>>2600864
it's ok if kiara is not the most popular, she has plenty of people who like her the way she is. if she changes, it's gonna be her decision, with support from fans who actually care about her. it's obnoxious to come this thread just to numberfag and fish for attention just because you can't cointain your own bitchiness. even then, you have the gall to suggest to someone else they should work on their interpersonal skills.

>>2600625
Quality over quantity?

>>2601153
>quality
Yeah...

>>2601231
Earns much more despite lower views?

What a cute chicken!

did Kiara mention what was happening with her membership stream that was moved around and said there would be two for a week?

>>2601481
>Earns much more despite lower views?
That's just indicative of a more obsessive fanbase.
You can't determine the quality of an entertainer by how much money they make divided by their total audience. If that was the case, then findom mistresses would be the most entertaining thing in the world, lol.

>>2601966
your concern about people throwing money at vtubers in the fucking vtuber board is really something. i'd love to see you go to a rushia, lamy or any thread here really, and voice that opinion, see how that will go.

>>2601848
Your brain doesn't function properly. The want to play It Takes Two together, and there is a pen and paper RPG coming up.

No matter if she has 5 or 5 Million subs.
No matter is there are 50000 or 15 live viewers.
That numbers would not be any metric for me to think that she is better or worse than any EN member. I don’t care what people tell me what kind of content I have to enjoy or hate just because they think that they’ve got it all figured out.

>>2602523
>your concern about people throwing money at vtubers in the fucking vtuber board is really something
First of all, I’m not that guy you were originally arguing with. I personally don’t care if someone gives money to a vtuber.

I have a problem with you making numberfag threads and saying that superchat numbers are indicative of quality. Because they just aren’t. Just because a business has the most profits doesn’t mean it’s making a higher quality product compared to its competitors.

>i'd love to see you go to a rushia, lamy or any thread here really
No other fanbase here brags about superchat numbers. As well, a lot of Rushia/Lamy fans will openly admit that their oshi is GFE. They don’t make up lies about how their oshi is somehow “better” than the other streamers.
Stop comparing KFP with other fanbases. Nobody wants to be compared to you, or have to talk to you.

>>2601966
>That's just indicative of a more obsessive fanbase.
Since it's implying vs implying, I'd rather say we are comparing empty subs/views from thirdies or neets VS working people in first world countries.
Didn't Niji think that India is a good country to enter with their talents just because there are a lot of people in there?

>You can't determine the quality of an entertainer by how much money they make divided by their total audience.
Back there I was refering more to quality of work in the field from purely market perspective.
If we focus on quality of entertainment then the numbers can't give us an answer, as at the end of the day it is all subjective.

As for subs, most of them are dead anyway (does any Holo have full sub count show up as live viewers at any time?).
And if we want to look at views from your example, let's see:
>>2599924
>new game (MHR picking only solo stream for obvious reasons) vs "new" game (Diablo 2:R)
123k vs 185k, 159k
- Kiara wins 62k difference on the highest
>minecraft vs minecraft
197k, 171k vs 163k
- Ina wins 34k difference on the highest
>drawing vs random stuff
164k, 214k vs 67k, 103k
- Ina wins 111k difference on the highest (although, drawing was and still is basically her main job and strongest suit - as far as I remember she never dropped below 8k live on these)

Kiara attracts more views with new games, while Ina goes strong with Minecraft and Drawing (not a surprise).
So yeah, I'd still say they both are comparable in terms of viewership attraction.


Personally, I'm a dead sub on every other HoloEN channel.
Ina - there is no emotion, just same old flat routine.
Calli - things constantly flying over her head, sucking at games.
Ame - raging, strange pick of games for my taste.
Gura - mix of all above to be perfectly honest.
And don't get me wrong, I don't hate on them. I respect them and wish them all the best, but it all just feels so stale and old.

Of them all Kiara is always enthusiastically researching new things to add to her repertoire.
That is why I like her the most, not to mention she feels to be most human of them all.

I love Kiara.

>>2603534
Not that guy, but...

>I have a problem with you making numberfag threads
This isn't one

>and saying that superchat numbers are indicative of quality.
Well, they suggest fanbase quality. Otherwise I agree there

>Just because a business has the most profits doesn’t mean it’s making a higher quality product compared to its competitors
Numbers, be it profit or amount of customers, do not mean quality. Take McDonalds for example, has profits and sales, but no quality as food.
For entertaniment you can't really measure it other than your subjective personal judgement and taste.

>No other fanbase here brags about superchat numbers.
No one was bragging here.
>>2600625 linked some numbers including SC tho

>They don’t make up lies about how their oshi is somehow “better” than the other streamers.
Where do you have that?

>Stop comparing KFP with other fanbases. Nobody wants to be compared to you
Didn't tako start this shitpost fest to begin with? >>2599271
By comparing Kiara to Ina?

>or have to talk to you.
Bro, you are the one who came here...

so... How was Takamori's collab? Kiara had fun? that's all I really care about

Holy shit where did all these obsessed numberfags come from? Are they upset that Kiara is successful again?

>>2594084
God, tge end of the mem's only stream last night was exactly why I come to Kiara. Open, frank, and honest discussion about everything she's feeling. This pic fucking kills me...

>Zodiac Sign
>Cancer
UHH KFPBROS???

>>2605811
"People born under the sign of Cancer possess receptive and plastic natures. They are able to reflect their environment to a certain degree, in the similar way the sea reflects the sky.

Even though they are easily impressed or influenced, the persistence of Cancer is remarkable. They need a small incentive to go into action. Their tenacity will keep them on course, but due to their wide array of positive and negative mood changes, they might let the opportunity slips away, just when success in within grasp."

Sounds accurate, at least partially.

>>2604467
I didn't like it. Mori was autistic like always. Which forced Kiara to initiate 90% of the talking and thus made Kiara look clingy/slightly annoying. I don't like collabs with Mori in general for that reason. Sadly it's gonne be a weekly thing from now on for at least 2 months.
Hopefully Mori will grow and improve and get used to talking again. Though I doubt it.

>>2605924
Lets get back to the thinking man's personality descriptors. Bro's, her enneagram triptype is complimentary to mine...

>>2605993
yeah, the accidental 15 minutes of Ina/Kiara Minecraft Collab had more chemistry than the whole stream yesterday.

>>2606111
I want Takotori so bad... But not in a yuri kind of a way. More like sisters having fun.
Anything BUT Takamori.

>>2605993
It sounded like Calli was exhaused, literally falling asleep as they were playing.

>>2606111
>>2605993
I honestly think it's because Mori tries to play the character too hard. She sticks to it and it makes everything feel really stiff. From what we've been told, they get along pretty well outside of streaming. I wish they would just drop t he tsun lover thing and just make it a more relaxed atmosphere for their collabs.

>>2606135
Yeah same, in theory takamori is even a pretty good concept but that execution is more than horrible.
I would start a rant on how it is good that the idea of being an actress was bullied out of Mori seeing how bad she plays her role, but sperging about Moris autism on a KFP thread would be the most basic form of a timeloop in existence

>Mastercard capped out
>Had to cancel memberships to other Holos
I love Kiara but concernfagging is expensive

>>2606068
I wish we could get her to do an MBTI test on stream.

>>2606423
Chill bud. She'll be there for you if you need her, but you should get your finances in order first.

>>2606423
Anon-chama... you can't spend all your money on vtubers.

>>2606436
Might actually be fun.

>>2606423
Take it easy bro, just set a limit for SCs. It honestly helps a lot with managing your monthly expenses and akasupa addiction.

>>2554667
>>2554618
COWORKERS

>>2554618
how do two girls have sex? I never understood this

>>2554402
Generally speaking, it's on an agreement basis. Usually the previous tennant has to return the apartment in "neutral colors", regardless of any damage that has happened. So if they decided to paint their walls hot pink, they'd be required by law to repaint it. What specifically that means is flexible.
They either do it, hire someone or have thelandlord to hire someone and send over the bill. All 3 are common practice.

>>2606791
SC Kiara idk

>>2606791
>>2606880
They
>use their fingers
>use their tongues
>use toys
>scissor

There you go.

>>2606935
Scissors? That sounds dangerous, do you mean like they cut each other's hair?

>>2606942
Kek.
Also
>you need to be 18 to post on this site

>finished up the members stream VOD
>Tenchou reading all the positive comments from past streams
>loves and appreciates all of them
bros...

>>2607701
I watched a video from one of her previous incarnations (it has less than 200 views, kinda rare) and if only you could see her jumping around and her face of genuine happiness when meeting her fans, even though most of them were shy socially awkward nerds.
Kiara is a precious birb and she lives for her fans. No kidding or exaggeration. I doubt anyone else in Hololive appreciates her fans the way she does.
Please never hurt this birb.

>>2592482
She was making a new friend in veibae (UK) and they were both excited about collabing together.
Getting the ground cut from under her feet must have stung really bad.

>>2608693
You have your own containment thread, get out.

>>2604279
>This isn't one
At the slightest provocation you people bring up superchat numbers. As if that’s the only thing you have to justify your existence.
>Well, they suggest fanbase quality. Otherwise I agree there
No they don’t. That’s retarded. A fanbase’s quality shouldn’t be judged by how much money they are willing to waste. Again, do you think findom paypiggies are the best audience in the world?
>Numbers, be it profit or amount of customers, do not mean quality
Yes this is exactly my point. So please stop using the fucking superchat numbers.
>No one was bragging here.
See: >>2597505, >>>2601481, >>2599177, (this entire thread) >>2474661
>Where do you have that?
See: >>2601153, >>2603553 and the other posts trying to claim that Kiara’s content is superior because she makes more money.
>Didn't tako start this shitpost fest to begin with?
You blame all your problems with other fanbases but your fanbase is the only one falling apart and arguing all the time.

>>2606423
Post bank account

>>2609325
you literally need to go back, obsessed femcel. no one cares about your pathological grudge against kiara

>>2599623
>If I were anon, I would simply not reply to bait
you think it'd be easy wouldn't you?

>>2609325
Your wall of text doesn't prove anything faggot. Keep coping

Some really great art from the collab as usual

>>2609472
>>2609633
:)

The crunchy one

>>2609325
You come in here, shit talk her consistently, get told that people like her, talk about how she's the worst due to numbers, then yell when someone points out she actually does ok and makes decent money. Fuck off, disingenuous sack of shit.

After everything, all the rrats, the dox and God being an Anti due to missing tax, the cult is still here and follows their idol bird.
And yet we get mentally ill subhumans almost daily trying to accomplish what exactly? Nobody here is gonna stop liking her and farming (you)s is retarded in a whole different way:
This is the fan thread, >defending and talking about Kiara is what they'd do anyways. The cult likes to talk about their idol.

>>2606162
The girl is just tired like she said near the end of the stream when kiara asked her what she was doing all day,
dont go over analyzing things it doesnt make you look smart just make you look stupid

Y'know, antis like to talk about EN2 leaving Kiara in the dust, even though she and Ina have been matched in subs for months and are 100k away from the million. But if you really compare, that's so much better than most other hololive gens. Most gens only have one or two people in the million range, if they have anyone at all there. But can you imagine if EN2 has someone like Mio or Flare, who are only halfway there while the rest of their gen has double their subs? That could be devastating to someone.

>>2610277
I dislike the tsundare shit. I get that she was tired, but I think her trying to keep her character all the time isn't funny.

>>2609325
>At the slightest provocation you people bring up superchat numbers.
It is just answering bait with counterbait, throwing numbers at a numberfag. What's so surprising about that?
Yet you seem only assblasted by mention of SC and not subs or views, while all of those are in same category of meaningless numbers.

>No they don’t. That’s retarded. A fanbase’s quality shouldn’t be judged by how much money they are willing to waste. Again, do you think findom paypiggies are the best audience in the world?
I never said it should be like that or that I agree with it. But, by raw corporate logic it has to be so.
This is why someone prefroming at an opera is going to make you more money than someone playing music for favela town.
And no, I don't think highest donation earners have best audiences.
Nor do I think that money or viewership make for best quality entertainment (look at top100 subs on YT and ask yourself if that is really the measure for quality entertainment).

>See: >>2597505, >>>2601481, >>2599177, (this entire thread) >>2474661
All of those posts, save for a thread, show people baited by numerfag on subs/views and counterbaiting with SC numbers.
And then you have an entire bait thread that no one here needs, but still pin it on us - like we want more baiters to come over here.
Did you already forget about pic related? We have enough schizos to deal with as it is...

>Yes this is exactly my point. So please stop using the fucking superchat numbers.
Same goes for subs and views, don't forget that part.
Just drop numberfagging entierly and enjoy free entertainment that they provide.

>See: >>2601153, >>2603553 and the other posts trying to claim that Kiara’s content is superior because she makes more money.
Nah, that is your impression alone that someone is superior to someone else.
Also, these are actually my own counterbaits for numberfag, so I think I have better idea what I was thinking when typing it at the time.
They (baiters) mindlessly brought up numbers so I did the same, at the end of the day not a single number matters mentioned.
I never thought of any Holo to be superior to one another. They all are talents, with their own characters and specializations.
Same as Ina and Kiara specialize in their own, different fields. It would be retarded to compare them 1:1.

>You blame all your problems with other fanbases but your fanbase is the only one falling apart and arguing all the time.
You admited yourself
>>At the slightest provocation you people bring up superchat numbers.
that baiters keep coming in here stirring up shit and now you try to shift reaction to their actions onto fanbase.
Not to mention that your impression of fanbase itself falling apart is again, your impression alone, created by baiters I assume.
The world doesn't just bend itself to adapt to how you see it, there's always a larger picture to be seen.

All in all, I don't get it, you know that baiters come here to start shitposting and then act horribly offended when counterbaiting beings.
You don't even want to be here, as you said yourself, but still come over. What is up with you, bro?

>>2610363
Depends on the personality of the hatchling, but I can see Kiara going full mother hen and trample her way into organizing a whole bunch of group collabs for weaker gen2. No survivors and the board will drown in orange, but I can imagine it.

>>2610714
I can already picture it. One of the EN2 will lag behind and Kiara will get closer to her and help her with the numberfagging. /vt/ will proceed to say she's leeching and exploiting pity someone else now on top of herself.

>>2610701
You can’t just distance yourself from the numberfag threads. It’s your fanbase that does it. No other girl has threads bragging about subs or SC.

>>2610845
>your

>>2610845
It's antis who spam Kiara threads, most likely even (you)

>>2610845
>No other girl has threads bragging about subs or SC
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

When's the next stream?

>>2610941
4 hours to go

>>2610845
>You can’t just distance yourself from the numberfag threads.
You do realize you can rightclick and hide a thread...?
This is a general btw

>It’s your fanbase that does it. No other girl has threads bragging about subs or SC.
For what purpose? To get more baiters spamming the general? It makes no sense.
Give me one logical reason why would anyone from around here do that...

>>2611009
Anon you are most likely replying to the schizo who made these threads in the first place. It doesn't care about your opinion. It just wants to stir shit up. ignore + report for troll/spam

>>2610277
Speaking of Molri, I can't wrap my head around what she was trying to do here

https://twitter.com/kayeekulit/status/1382914151731761152

Was it just her usual dorky/autistic self trying to play off a joke? Or was she legit trying to encourage Kiara by lying about having watched the video to avoid another yab like the Heart Challenger one?

>>2611040
I want to believe it's the first thing but even if it's the second I'm fine with it since she probably just doesn't want to hurt her or anything. More important than that though, is that it was fucking hilarious and so I'm glad she said it.

>>2611040
she lied in a very obvious way because she wanted to look aloof, it's a bit

Kiara is very cute, funny, makes me smile and feel warm and fuzzy.

I love you, Kiara.

>>2611040
Made it into a streamable just in case it gets deleted

https://streamable.com/yqt8p8

God the more I learn about Mori the more I dislike her. Can't stand her.
But Kiara says she is her friend so I'm not gonna shit on her. Also as another anon said earlier, no need to start another time loop.
still, thanks for the link.

>>2611040
Sounds like she was just being sarcastic but her low energy voice at that moment didn't really make it clear

>>2611009
>Give me one logical reason why would anyone from around here do that...
Because you all start shit 24/7. You can’t even go one thread without starting some kind of infighting, drama, or talking about “schizos”.

>>2611203
She sounds stoned in that clip

Can you all please stop arguing? regardless of who's right and who's wrong, this argument has taken up far too much space that could've been used producitvely/to the benefit of everybody.

Also, here, have a pasta I made:

Scoundrels, heretics, believers! Listen! Do you crave good content? Do you feel that lack of good content crushing you? You need relief. But how? How can you ask for content unless you first create content yourself? Give. Unto the talents. I was once a wretched viewer, breaking my back just to get noticed in chat. Then, I found that glorious superchat. Oh, and when I gave my first offering, how its richness rained down upon me! Do you want what I have received? Do you want it for yourself? Then give. Unto the talents. Let your superchats be the seeds of good content. Give unto the talents! And you will be rewarded a hundredfold! Superchat be the word, and the word be content!

>>2611040
I THINK she tried to make a joke but her autism made it land flat and look like she was just completing Kiara for nothing

>>2611225
>Because you all start shit 24/7.
So bottom line is you do not have any logical reasoning to back up your claims. Just your "impressions".

>You can’t even go one thread without starting some kind of infighting, drama, or talking about “schizos”.
And keep pinning random baiters onto us.

Anyway, you, my friend, do not need this thread, or this board for that matter, what you need is help.

>>2611036
I'll do that from now on. It's just a waste of keyboard at this point.

>>2611368
I think she is lying just like with Heart Challenger back then. She doesn't want to create another yab about her not giving a fuck about Kiara, especially in a Takamori stream out of all things. So she just responds with "oh yeah sure I saw your songs, great stuff, very cool"

>>2611040
Jesus Christ Calli...
I think (or rather hope) she is just half asleep and doesn't even think much of what she is saying.

>>2611457
that's what I fear...
if kiara can't even trust genmates who the fuck can she trust

>>2609325

>>2611546
She can always trust her cult memb- I mean her Loyal KFP members

If she finishes Ryza are we going to get another wave, or do relatively normal people play that game?

>>2611040
You can't seriously expect Mori to keep up with literally everything Kiara does, can you? I'm her #1 fan and even I can't do that shit.

https://youtu.be/Qufn8XyDW1Q
Stream reservation up
Looks like we're getting smol kiara today, nice

>>2611750
>I'm her #1 fan
Prove it, faggot

>That long tangent about not being good enough and trying her best at the end of her membership stream
I just wanna see her happy... Is that too hard to ask? FUCK!

>>2611960
Its ok anon I just booked a flight to sydney I'll find her and make her happy

>>2611750
Are you retarded schizochama?
If you don't listen to your "friends" song then don't lie about it. Out of nowhere she makes up stuff saying oh yeah i listened to it pretty cool.
Kiara didn't even ask

>>2606791

Please remember that the only condition you need to achieve to “win” is to enjoy our Tenchou regardless of what any random schizo says.

>>2606791
They just masturbate together.

>>2611960
She won't be fully happy until she fulfills her biological imperative.

>>2612292
...Yeah but this is only true if no one kidnaps her or worse. If schizos are doxing the shit out of her at every opportunity then there is a risk this will happen. Fucking meidos needs to range ban faster

>>2611300
Not so fast, Nef.

>>2612547
You- You're not gonna destroy my cooling tower again, are you?

>>2612606
The Chicken giveth, and the Chicken taketh away.

>>2611453
Yet you keep responding...

>>2612547
>Zephyr
I keep forgetting the real pronunciation of that word because of how Kiara always says it

>>2612031
fkn kek

New thread soon? Page 10 now.

>>2612684
Zeh-fire? But that's the correct pronunciation, anon. It's always been the correct pronunciation, there's absolutely no other way to pronounce zeh-fire. ;)

>>2612393

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO

I'll make

>>2612776
sent too early fuck.
Making a new thread rq

>>2612684
>>2612761
In german it's tze-feer if that helps any.

New thread up
>>2612927
>>2612927
>>2612927

>>2612774