/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>268894
>holy crap it's gwar goorah from hololive usa

Pretty easy to math out here, the target market wants to see a cute girl who is also entertaining and good at video games. It's almost impossible to find someone who meets all 3 criteria, but an average/unattractive woman who meets the first two criteria can use an anime avatar to fill in the gap.

>>268894
That isn't true at all. 4 out of the 5 top female streamers were non-vtubers. That Valkyrae chick has 150k people watching her each time she streams. Gura only managed that one time almost three months ago.

>>268894
Alpha male
Alpha female
Beta female
Beta male

>>268894
you guys should really specify that you are talking about western vtubers when you make these threads, there are a good number of guys that are competitive with the females in terms of viewership on the Japanese side

>>268927
THIS IS FRICKIN AWESOME

>>269091
Like five. I've seen that chart.

>>268894
>"They were perfect for each other. He was strong, brave, intelligent, heroic, honorable, funny, and empathetic, and she was pretty."

All girls need are looks, and 2D/animated ideals > the real world. They pay for a cute model, and they can rack in the simp bucks.

Men need skills, both socially and in terms of ability. However, the guys that want to become vtubers AREN'T the same guys that are pro-level FPS players or whatever. They are loser nerds that just don't want to show their face publicly. So to make it as a male entertainer, you have to actually develop skills, whether it be for gaming, singing, playing an instrument or whatever, and after that, they don't have any incentive to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on some avatar, when they could just start streaming. The problem is that male vtubers don't do that part, they just act like women and prioritize their avatar first, which is why they'll never grow.

>>269061
>Valkyrae
she leaches off men
all the "successful" fems do that
vtuber fems don't need to do that

>>268927
>This is just like the time I became a Vtuber

>>269091

Artemis has 200k subs and is steadily growing. If he was a Holostar EN he would easily be at the 1M mark by now.

>>269181
Yeah I'd say this answer sums it up pretty well. I myself just have no respect for male vtubers, though I would like to see them grow

>>269201
>thank you for the money
>no only Lois can do that to me
>no only Joe can do that to me
>please look forward to my next collab with Quagmire Marine

>>269201
>cuts to joke of Peter behind an anime girl accidently ripping a massive fart and breaking his voice changer

i beg to differ, orange is the most famous of them all

>>269533

>>268894
because when girls do vtubing they have a corporate team behind them. it takes males to write their personality to make them interesting. that's why indies are shit.

>>269154
I don't think its quite like that? I mean just taking a quick look through their most recent streams Kuzuha 25k, Yashiro 18k, Kenmochi 18k, Kanae 17k, Fuwa 12k, Mayazumi 11k, Ibrahim 10k, Shibuya Hal 10k and there are plenty more than manage perfectly respectable numbers in the 5-10k range. You can buy products with some of these guys faces on them in regular convenience stores all over Japan. They have sell out concerts and talk shows, they get on TV and on CDs that top Japanese charts, host streams with hundreds of thousands of people watching. It's not nothing.

>>268894
Kuzuha was literally the most watched Vtuber in Japan for the month of January for the third time in his career.
https://twitter.com/GikenTV/status/1356180109170941955

Holofags atm aren't even interested in vtubers, they're only interested in the shark loli and they barely even watch her much more talented genmates if you look at the VOD viewership.

My prediction is that some EOPs of hololive that actually watch the JP branch will get bored of the yuri baiting as the year goes on and you'll see Holostars subscriber count and viewership slowly rise.

>>268894
imagine limiting your audience to people that are autistic enough to actively watch vtubers, and thinking that a male would be appealing to most of them

My theory is that Western VTuber fans got into VTubers through Hololive, a female idol project. So it's all weebs, ironic simps, and actual simps. It's a primarily YouTube audience who have some bizarre animosity towards Twitch and aren't big into other streamers.
In Japan Nijisanji got big first and it's much more normie targeted, and there's an actual big overlap between the NicoNico audience and YouTube audience so they'll happily get into whichever streamer is entertaining.

The difference isn't as stark in Korea/Japan/China/Taiwan, male vtubers also roll in a bunch of views. And it is not just a female audience, but also guys who enjoy them as entertainers. I'd mainly chalk that up to Westerners still being polarized by stuff that is perceived as weebshit (with increasing exceptions). You generally either consume a lot of it or you consume almost none, and vtubers mainly appeal to the former demographic.

But there is a still a discrepancy, and I think it has to do with viewers that use streams to satiate feelings of love/lust, rather than just use them for entertainment. This audience is very sensitive to rejection or disillusionment of reality, and so are more eager to pick up female vtuber personas as a preferred ideal over "regular" female streamers. Also exist for male vtubers, but my hunch is that more male viewers are a part of this trend than female viewers.

>>268894
idk but kanae is great :D

>>268894
Girls watch male streamers. Girls don't like anime as much as guys do.

>>270084
>ironic simps, and actual simps
those are the same thing

>>269081
ironically, other way around

>>269533
peared

>>269201
>cuts to Korone punching Peter in the floor without any context

>>270084
>It's a primarily YouTube audience who have some bizarre animosity towards Twitch and aren't big into other streamers.
Pretty sure it is less animosity towards Twitch as a platform, and more:
1. Hololive simply being on Youtube, so that Twitch isn't really a part of the equation.
2. Youtube being the default video platform, so streamers are able to net in a previously untapped group of viewers who didn't previously follow streamer culture.
There is animosity from vtuber fanatics towards 3DPD streamers on twitch, but that's more to do with the streamers than Twitch itself.

>and there's an actual big overlap between the NicoNico audience and YouTube audience
About as much as Twitch and Youtube. In fact, it was popular for streamers to multi-stream to both Twitch and Youtube until Twitch banned affiliates from doing it.
The story is that Youtube was relatively late to build out their streaming platform, which gave Niconico and Twitch time to capture subcultures and get them used to features/interface that Youtube wasn't interested in providing. However, as Youtube's streaming service has achieved technical parity, its much larger latent userbase allows it to grow much more rapidly and establish itself as a streaming site for subcultures as well.
The long-term trend is that Youtube will increasingly eat Niconico and Twitch's lunch, unless some unexpected strategy or variable intervenes.

>>270729
Not him, but I assume ironic simps don't actually pay or do much beyond meme about streamers. They're not actually that invested in any particular streamer.

>>270710
For any of you male Western vtuber hopefuls, pander to Indonesia as hard as possible. They have a good amount of weebs

>>270497
I feel like even if you're not looking for a girlfriend simulator, its still plain easier to get endeared to girl vtubers.
I think that's the real hurdle here. I mean, even them just doing cute noises gets them attention.

>>270946
>not Kiara
one job

>>269185
I agree but Amatsuka Uto is a vtuber fems that leaches off other vtuber fems.

You sound like a chud OP

>>268894
>people who want quality gameplay
>weebs(likely horny)
>extreme thirst viewers
>one friend that pity watches but tabbed out

>>269339
I read it in his voice and unironically laughed