/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Guess who had a karaoke stream
https://youtu.be/ftsfvm4i8p0

>>2722545
Hachi hasn't taken part in any events yet, has she?

>>2724079
I don't think so, but I hope to see her sometime soon.

Hachi did another singing stream today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6QlhLIfbPs

道明寺ここあ (Cocoa Domyoji II)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5Xse6X7vB_nUL5HvEFVo_g
Latest cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcanXMaml7s
Original song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ALRSD6RApo

芦澤サキ (Saki Ashizawa)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPZgBtMYoFKypEG2SCvBN9A
Latest cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55lpME9EAkM
Original song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60kEVe3sae4

松永依織 (Iori Matsunaga)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC--zuEfONeFXPvLqX0Kvbuw
Latest cover (with VESPERBELL): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgq31OILmqw

長瀬有花 (Yuka Nagase)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf-PcSHzYAtfcoiBr5C9DZA
Latest cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRs2M0bfrxM
Original song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXyKCBIN_o0

凪原涼菜 (Suzuna Nagihara)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClqZm49qdCGaV96s2ZN9--Q
Latest cover (with VESPERBELL): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_0GJAa9W1E

VESPERBELL: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPd0Z22gF43dUidPYEQO5-w

>>2724485
Hope Iori and Suzuna get original songs soon.

>>2724574
I'm guessing Suzuna's next.

>>2724485
Probably not where they were going with this thing, but based on her OG I think Yuka can do some top-tier covers of Kaf.

https://streamable.com/10xlw8

>>2725679
If you want to make a headcount, the number of unique posters is the third number of the four numbers to the side.
Otherwise please use youtube with a timestamp. Most people here want to follow the chuuba if they like the music.
https://youtu.be/fOq2qbHKTMQ

Kanade Mimi did another one of her acapella English singing streams. No reverb either, and she still managed to kill the songs despite having just woke up apparently. I am a bit sad she didn't do だから僕は音楽を辞めた, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm5WVE5F6_I

>>2724926
Gonna be hard to top Yomi, for me at least. I find myself listening to it more then the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvgGCMX7G_0

>>2726501
>Gonna be hard to top Yomi
Yomi was beautiful in that, but I still postulate that Yuka can probably pull a banging Kaf cover.

>>2729331
Don't disagree, and at a certain point it's far more about who's voice and style clicks for you then anything objective. Yuka certainly has that haunting, breathy voice that's similar to Kaf in some of her slower songs.

What hopes and/or dreads do y'all have for when Cover debuts their EN VSinger(s) (if they even chose any, that is)?

>>2732951
I hope for an AZKi who speaks English, both in matching her singing quality and output. I'd love it if she manages to spread some of the good Western songs within the vtubing community for singing as covers/karaoke. I am a little afraid that she'll steal the wind from AZKi's sails who's finally starting to get the support and recognition she deserves, though.

>>2732951
I want someone whose musical ability is genuinely impressive, and I would be disappointed if the person Cover recruits for this role is merely on the level of "I like singing, have a nice voice, and did chorus in HS." Also, as far as how this new VSinger is managed, I hope that Cover has noted the reasons for the success of Suisei and Calli and encourages this new Vsinger to participate in other activities that let her audience know what sort of person she is. This would seem to be an obvious thing--that people are going to be more likely to like your music if they like you as a person--but it's really not. Look at how many of the VSingers out there don't do anything to inform their audience regarding themselves. It's not an issue if you're only doing it as a hobby, but it's a serious mistake if you're trying to become successful.

>>2732951
>Hopes
On top of real skill and talent, variety is one thing I'm hoping for. Since they're EN, they probably will have a bit more of a western flavor so it kind of goes without saying that they'll bring something new to Cover the same way Mori did. I also hope that they're "modular" in the sense that they're not afraid of working with others in and outside of the company to produce the music they want.

>Dreads
Tribalism (though that's a bit par for the course for /vt/). Overlap in style might cause overshadowing as >>2733179 mentioned too.
On a more personal note, I'd be a bit disappointed if they shift a majority of their focus towards games and become just another holo talent rather than cement their status as vsinger. I'm also not really a hip hop/rap person so...

>>2735138
Would be counter productive to have two hip-hop artists and no traditional singers who're putting out music, so I doubt we're going to end up with a second in a similar genre to Mori.

>>2734100
But are they vsingers if they do stuff outside of singing/music? Wasn't someone asking in the previous thread about what exactly a vsinger was?

>>2735449
I mean, I don't think anyone is going to argue AZKi or even the other Holos who put out original music are not vsingers, even if they stream other stuff as well, a large majority of the time in some cases. I would say the big defining criteria for being a vsinger would be making original music, or studio level covers at the minimum, while having a virtual stage persona they use, even if they blur the lines a bit like ぼっちぼろまる. Just my opinion, though.

>>2735449
Imho, as long as they create original music and have a virtual avatar they are vsinger for me. And there's nothing wrong about doing other stuff too, even those who focused on music like Azki and Hachi have streamed other things than music

YuNi is amazing. Amazing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7BxgDCzHMI

>>2732951
I'm interested in learning abit more about this, did they have an announcement about EN VSingers or something?
Also how the fuck would it work considering Hololive is consolidated now, will they just be part of Hololive except they don't stream as much?

>>2737021
They had a call for applications that closed at the end of January, so debut is probably in the next month if it's the same timeline as previous Holos. As to what to expect, no one knows, since they're not going to be a separate branch, most likely, and AZKi is transitioning into streaming more often, even if it's just once a week. Most logical guess is someone who streams less, does karaokes more, and also puts out songs fairly often, but it is just a guess.

To expand on this (>>2732951), seeing how hololive has been a gateway for many into VTubers (at least, for those who choose to explore beyond hololive), would the EN VSinger serve a similar role for the VSinger sphere? Or perhaps has AZKi's 72 hour marathons been enough?

>>2735449
For me, as long as their primary focus is performing music (originals/covers), that's good enough for me. Any other areas of the music production process is a bonus. Any other activity is fine as long as it doesn't take away from their primary focus.

>>2737021
>>2737108
I would imagine they would just be under INNK with AZKi, since that is the music label part of hololive production.

>>2737230
Is there an overlap between vsingers and utaites? I assume not because my sister is into utaites and she knows more about the JP Apex crowd than vtubers/vsingers.

>>2737230
AZKi's 72 hour streams clearly haven't made that big of an inroad in bringing the Western and Eastern vsinger community together, despite the couple of anons in this thread. The biggest demonstration of this is the simple fact that outside of HoloEN, there was zero Western vtubers who submitted a song to it, even though we got some Taiwanese and JapEnglish songs.

Maybe the EN Vsinger will change this, but it depends on how much she interacts with the two communities and given how touchy management has been about indies interacting with HoloEN, that's not a given.

>>2737284
If more popular utaites went into making game streams and doing things a VTuber tends to do, on a platform that's not NND, sure. But, I look at someone like yuiko, and she doesn't stream on YouTube at all.

By the way, are you guys alright with supporting the Riot Music girls considering the lineage of their company? I fucking despised Unlimited, is it safe to say Brave is just the same people or was the shakedown as thorough as they claimed?

>>2737807
I'll support the girls but still gonna be wary about Brave Group. From what I can find, the former CEO was fired and the then CFO became the new CEO (https://panora.tokyo/archives/7207).).

Also learned that Brave Group debuted a new group late last year; it's a light music club called Taiban, but I'm unsure if they're supposed to be a VTuber group or not.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvASILqI54mC0PvG_7ZJ8UA

波羅ノ鬼 - Harano Oni -

白日 Cover
https://youtu.be/J_hOzA424-Y
君の知らない物語 Cover
https://youtu.be/5rHYh1MMIv0
トラウマ(original)
https://youtu.be/7GEan3dgcUA

>>2737021
>>2735449
I assume that their VSinger is going to stream similarly to how a normal member does, just that music is going to be a focus of their activities. The reason why Cover is specifically recruiting a VSinger is most likely because of how the balance of Holomyth turned out. Think about it:
>Ame: Terrible singer
>Ina: Only a little better than Ame
>Kiara: Not the worst but not good either
>Gura: Pretty good on some types of songs, but doesn't really have the voice or musical training for dramatic or serious songs.
>Calli: Good at rapping, but lacks the skill to sing difficult songs well. Making efforts to improve.
Adding someone who's focused on singing is a good complement to Holomyth; what's more, it pays to specifically recruit for it because streamers with strong musical inclination and ability are probably comparatively harder to find in America than they are in Japan.

>>2739409
Given how much time is taken up by working on music doing things that are going to be inherently offscreen, there's no way she's going to stream as much. Mori streamed far less when she was working on her EP, and a full album would require that to happen over a longer period of time. I can't imagine that the Vsinger is going to let herself get beat by AZKi on output, so I'd expect a couple of short streams every week at most.

>>2739409
Way to show your bias there deadbrap.

>>2737807
I initially thought Brave Group was a new company until I saw the wiki.
I immediately archived the Riot Music girls' covers after knowing the fact. Although I don't think I can archive their livestreams at the moment, our internet sucks.

>>2740281
Saki tweeted she's making all her livestreams private on Friday.
https://twitter.com/saki_ashizawa/status/1384009576396189696

>>2740771
just her livestreams? what about the covers?

Is something happening in the background?

>>2741129
In her most recent stream, she said streams going forward will be up for a week before being made private. Covers and MVs will remain public. She talked about opening a sub channel to do other things like gaming while her main channel will be just music.

>>2740771
Cocoa also privated her livestreams prior to her anniversary.

>>2741647
What is the logic behind this sort of decision? I have never really got it. Is it because they are in the way of the music which is what the want people there for? But even so I think they probably draw more people in to the music than the effect they might have of taking people away from it.

>>2741820
I assume they don't want to hurt the engagement numbers on their music by having a bunch of gaming streams, since Youtube doesn't know that those are two very different things when it comes to the algorithm. You also train people to not care about getting notified about the channel having new content on the subscription bar if it's a bunch of game streams they don't care about when they only sub to you for music.

>>2737359
Are there any western vsingers? I know some have good karaokes like Nina but I don't know of any that released originals (not counting holoEN). About there being no western songs in the showcase, it could partially be due to low exposure/reach as I didn't know about it happening until a few days prior.
Honestly, I think it might be more of a cultural difference with karaoke culture in Asia vs. the west, with western vtubers sticking more towards the stereotypical streamer activities since they're more comfortable with it.
Do you guys think there's any other cultural differences that cause this split in behavior/activities in the west vs. east?

>>2744210
I think you have a bit of a point with cultural differences. People who were vsingers like Bao dropped singing (in the format of proper covers, originals) because the amount of effort doesn't bring results as much as frequent low-effort streaming does. It's more about finding what you want to do - I mean, Ninas actual focus is self-improvement. Bao seemed to want to monetize more and put less effort in. If your goal isn't a career in singing you aren't going to focus on singing. I think in the West people are just pragmatic like that, there is no real requirement to it like in the East.

New RIM cover
https://youtu.be/HzfZhgRwlAU

>>2737807
I follow nu-Cocoa on twitter but I've only heard her cover of the Slam Dunk song. Didn't enjoy it as much as the singing of old-Cocoa. The black hair chick with sidetail is cute.

>>2744685
>Bao
Just checked out her songs a bit. If it's true she dropped singing, that's a bit of a shame since her music seems pretty comfy. I suppose people have to make money somehow though.

>>2744210
I guess with Japan they already had a thriving video uploading covers singing thing rooted in otaku culture going on with utatite. It doesn't take much of a leap to go from that to vsinger. Very close to being the same thing in terms of the content. In the west there really isn't anything like that though is there. People upload covers of songs they do but there isn't some entire community based around it nor would it be associated with otaku shit if it was. It's more of a leap to go from being some normal girl uploading her covers of whatever western pop music they like to becoming a vtuber.

>>2745252
There are those channels that sing anime OPs or OPs in English but I'd rather avoid those types.

>>2745244
It looks like she is getting back into it. https://twitter.com/hikarustation/status/1384431914237382666
Not following her too closely but I think it was a combination of burnout and being busy with school/vtubing.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRbKF4l1YzIPngmPmMyWj53GG30_Y1GRy

Just dropping Sora's playlist. I've been meaning to check it, but I simply do not have the time yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGsjuWvAvuo
yuki karaoke after APEX

>>2732951
I honestly think cover has low singing standards so my expectations are pretty low. If whoever is recruited had good singing ability I will be pleasantly surprised.

>>2744210
The most prolific that I'm aware of is Yfu Baby, even if I personally don't care for her rap style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGutwz0yYXo

I'm sure there are a bunch of small time indies with 1k subs that I'm also never going to find, but the other anons are certainly right about the lack of karaoke and cover culture culture meaning that you don't have most Western vtubers doing anything related. However, that low exposure/reach is 100% the point about the two communities being completely seperate given how many of the Japanese channels were also 1-10k subs that were also featured on the event. We need an ambassador to sort of unite the twos, or at least open diplomatic relations, and Mori is too worried with destroying someone's lottery ticket level chances of getting into Hololive instead of boosting them in their current situation to do that at the moment. Most notably, despite participating in the Festival, she didn't tweet or talk on stream about it at all. The most she did was to like a couple of Boogey's tweets from day 1.

>>2744840
I'm personally waiting for the day VWP sings together again. Kamitsubaki did a great job of finding 5 people who have really distinctive singing voices and yet sound great as a group or in pairs.

>>2752981
Hopefully we get something at RIM's one-man live next month.

So what is a VSinger?
Vtuber focused on music?

>>2735449
That's the general definition. Whether that means just doing regular karaokes, putting out covers, or if you want them to make originals is a personal distinction, but you can read the thread's opinion in the replies to >>2735449

>>2756027
>Vtuber focused on music?
yes

>>2745252
there was a big community on yt called youtaite, producing high quality anisong covers, you should check for chorus battles

>>2754231
It still makes me laugh that they called the VWP a one-man live and then not only does the entire crew show up, but I think they sang as many songs as Kaf did solo.

>>2758570
Well, the thing was advertised as Kaf's 2nd one-man live, but it was all a cover to introduce VWP and Kaf's actual 2nd one-man live is in June. At least, that's what I took from the whole thing.

Any VSingers that do things similar to this?
https://youtu.be/nle3gTI6wd8?t=1312
Fuck, finding an album on my PC that is also on youtube was hell

>>2759828
You mean the vaguely symphonic metal sound? Reminds me of some of AZKi's AZKi black songs, though they normally have her vocals slightly more to the front.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKy71bCcOyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VriDV2NqXpg

>>2758959
I'm a big fan of Harusaruhi, so I certainly don't mind, it was just funny to me and I wonder if they decided to mix things up with the lack of a real audience, since normally you'd advertise everyone who's going to participate since no one is going to not buy a ticket because X is involved, but plenty of people would.

Reminder to archive shit you like. Some covers from old Cocoa's channel aren't on youtube anymore, so you gotta watch them somewhere else.

Himitsu Kano looks like she's finally going to start uploading more often, and she's been doing a bunch of test streams trying to figure out her audio settings, setup, and volume levels. She's managed by the same people that manage Hachi, and is a pretty good singer though perhaps not quite having the range of the bee herself as I listen to Kano's live version of 炎. Still worth checking out, though. Her first original was written by Midy who's pretty popular in her own rights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMt3f4R4CmE

>>2739187
>https://youtu.be/7GEan3dgcUA
This is an interesting flip on the Momotaro story. I watched her second original MV and it looks to be a sequel to this one. So I'm guessing her originals are going to tell her backstory?

>>2739187
Damn, she's really good, but I'm also curious as to what she did right beyond having very high production value on her MVs to get so big? Both her originals have way more views then her covers, which is really fucking unusual when you look at most other vsingers.

>>2744210
Just want to remind everyone Nina is hosting a karaoke in about a week!

1st of May is the date. Mark your calendars if you havent heard her sing live yet!

>>2739409
>strong musical inclination and ability are probably comparatively harder to find in America
But the pool of talent is much larger in America when it comes specifically to singing ability. It would be different if you said instrumental ability. I’m not saying that in any competitive way at all, it’s just the reality of the situation. There would be no lack of talent or ability when it comes to singing.

>>2768240
Reading through the comments of some of her videos and it seems like quite a number of people found her through a YouTube ad.

>>2768613
>But the pool of talent is much larger in America when it comes specifically to singing ability.
Yes, absolutely. The problem is not in the size or existence of a population with the requisite ability but finding and connecting with them. Vtubing is an Internet subculture that has only existed for less than four years, and it didn't start to become more widely known in the West until last year. The kind of person who wants to make it in LA or on Broadway and has spent years training to be able to sing beautifully almost certainly doesn't know what a Vtuber or Vsinger is and therefore is not going to hear about or apply for the position. Meanwhile, the kind of person who knows all about Vtubing and specifically wants to become a VSinger is less likely to possess the level of musical inclination and ability to live up to the promise of the title. Despite these challenges, we already know that some of the applicants for the position are really strong, so I'm not overly concerned that Cover will pick a dud. We'll see though.

>>2768883
The only vtuber ads I got were about Riot Music's vtubers (Not League of Legends' Riot).

>>2770996
I used to get this chuuba's ad a lot.
https://youtu.be/Z7cwYuzb0gI

Also got a few KING covers. Pretty sure this was one of them.
https://youtu.be/ms0rToKR848

>>2771154
Do you means that play before a video? Or ads that pop up in youtube and you have to click on them? I've seen others for the latter but only Riot Music for the former.

I've notice that vsingers posted in this thread are mostly females.
Are there any male vsinger besides Fra from Boogey Voxx and MonsterZ Mate?

>>2771404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRIeONKWxp4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVC-dRCz-4A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqL-V8-h3mQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRttXAUze9g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKh1dXFOScE
I like these guys. Besides them, there are also some vtubers in Niji and in Holostars who focus on music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDSoOCV2Vds

>>2771404
https://youtu.be/DQAJNTKo6mU
https://youtu.be/9dP4i1S13ss
https://youtu.be/LhFSCLZnbqQ

>>2771253
Yeah, before a video.

Cocoa and Suzuna's one take cover stream's started: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDNK35zfUZs

>>2760291
I just realized the thumbnail for AZKi's Shit Days is a Ging Nang Boyz reference. That's really goddamn cool.
I guess it's to be expected for vsingers to explore deeper into the music scene though.

>>2771154
Moi chaton already graduated iirc

New cover by Saki: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEqsmLmw424
Yuka seems to have 2 upcoming covers, as seen on her "covered by 長瀬有花" playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6oaAwcC0Vc&list=PL52mQEfscnrQPUGHnLBPG7vdyiOKPoNX8
Thanks to anon that posted Suzuna and Cocoa's livestream: >>2773264

suzuna said her original's coming out soon and that it's pretty emo and egui

>>2773773
wrong link forgive me
https://www.youtube.com/c/YUKANAGASE/playlists

>>2773807
called it

>>2773264
It's private now :(

>>2775718
Yeah I don't like the whole private everything culture they have over there as an archivist myself. The nips are obsessed with the transitory.
It's another thing entirely if Brave is forcing them to do it though, cause then I wouldn't be able to tolerate it.

Another Hachi guerrilla utawaku.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WVoN18E6sw

>>2777574
Darn, I'm late.
>1.1k viewers
She's really been inclining, huh? I'm happy for her.

>>2777574
i love gorilla bee

Has Hachi ever talked about herself in an introduction video or anything like that?

Is it fine to post an utaite?

https://youtu.be/DKRE_Cao5m8?t=1189 how can one group have so much SOUL?

>>2782410
I mean, you're unlikely to catch a ban for doing so, so go for it. If you want to be extra safe, you can always phrase it as pertaining to a question about vsingers to make it 'on topic'. Just don't post about a certain one who released a stellar single from her new album this morning.

>>2782801
Is this VRchat?

>>2784649
Yea. Like half the videos during Don't Stop the Music were recorded in VR chat, and a lot of them were psuedo-Lives like that.

>>2784713
That's a pretty cool way of using vrchat.
My only experience seeing vrchat before was the korean military bird, hamburger country clips, and jerma poking around vrchat.

>>2786859
Mhmm, though the coolest thing is that once you've got your 3D avatar, you can make a passable MV with pretty much zero work, even if it's just a static shot with some filters thrown on top like Kaf used to do for covers. Honestly, it takes a decent amount of expense and work out of putting out music.

Who are the best duos to follow?

This is Vesperbell, a JP singing duo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5RW17PWB8E

Today, I will post Emnyeca

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0pEuBnMyCY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXkLn9DAblg

>>2744840
Not exactly new, but RIM singing "See you again"
https://youtu.be/w9F-uwu660Y

>>2790889
Other then Vesperbell, the duet acts I follow are Boogey Voxx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBsKQN58enA, CocoTsuki Project https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp0UI8f3_TQ and Kakulego https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ICEBTB2_Hc

>>2791188
Give Oritoito a look

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSpNrXTw8Xo

>>2791341
I actually did like the main singer's voice when I heard them before. I just got filtered by the recording quality on most of their stuff and the simple fact that I've got more music then I can listen to at the moment.

>>2791033
These are nice.

>>2768451
Probably the only western vsinger I like, is there really noone else?

https://twitter.com/iori_m_RIOT/status/1385058886177083394
MV and stream coming up for Iori.

>>2791033
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0pEuBnMyCY
Hearing this, I think she'd do a good job at singing this in a higher key.

https://youtu.be/3jdjZR3X1cE

Another nice duet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBndGT2WW_g

New Harusaruhi cover
https://youtu.be/4vHRjxZ5a8U

>>2791111
It's amazing how they were able to find such good singers who are so young. Did they walk into the most high spec highschool talent show on Earth or something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHHVsuDRHMI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB19WolWEns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q42eDKJlsMQ

Vesperbell and Iori and Suzuna of Riot Music has been collabing with covers lately. I hope they expand

>>2808728
I'd be pretty happy if it was the prelude to Yomi and one of the Riot girls doing an original.

Anyone gonna watch Ai's concert this weekend?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kem73eXn_24

>>2773851
I like her song choices.