/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>27338916
>treat us better or we're going to join the whore company!!!
I'm actually loving this. Now we can clearly differentiate the good streamers from the twitch thots with anime avatars. Vshojo works perfectly as a garbage bin.

>>27338916
I sure am
>>27339011
Fuck off, mohammad

>>27338916
Nigga they aren't even in hololive
>>27339011
fpbp

>>27338916
Based. Fuck those stupid Japanese companies with their retarded autistic IP and contract rules.

>>27338916
YES, hopefully this will force cover to change their business model or else they would be left in the dust by niji and vshojo.

>>27338916
>putting pressure
hahahaha

>>27338916
>putting pressure on cover’s restrictive management?
They are accomplishing nothing and Hololive will continue to thrive as it has. I'm quite sure all of Hololive management will sleep soundly on their pile of money.

>>27338916
>putting pressure on cover’s restrictive management
And how are they doing that?

>>27339067
Islam is right about w*omen

>>27338916
The only one putting pressure on cover's management is Towa and nobody else, everyone else is too meek and weak to complain

>>27338916
I mean, it is undeniably strong leverage, especially if the become successful, how its used depends on each girl but forcing management to do their job would only make hololive better

>>27338916
Yes you are, fucking retard

>>27339011
Correct answer.

>>27338916
>kson complains about Hololive being too restrictive and indicates she quit because she didn't have enough creative freedom
>after going independent proceeds to do absolutely nothing with her newfound creative freedom
>now joins another corpo
I had respect for her when she was Coco. Now I have no respect for her at all.

>>27338916
>cover’s restrictive management?
You get big enough you start having rules and regulations to prevent controversy and drama. If Vshojo gets that big they'll learn that the hard way. If you just let your talents do whatever they want, whenever they want, and however they want, you're going to get problems. It's fine for a Western company like them but for a Japanese Company, it's a different culture and work ethic, don't force western ideologies on Japan.

>>27339022
seconded

>>27339421
It's typical female behavior. Boo hoo I'm unhappy in the situation that I'm currently in (job / relationship / family / etc), leaves that situation. Enters extremely similar situation and claims its for the better.
It's best you don't think of them as rational beings.

>>27339421
Vshojo was founded by other streamers for streamers, they're pretty much just a coalition of indies that get tax breaks and sponsorships. It's easier than being by yourself as an indie. There's no management, no mangers, no board telling you what to do. It's why it's such a shit show most the time with Nyanners and Ironmouse.

>>27339011
not reading + L + please take a shower

>>27338916
I'm happy the whores naturally gravitate towards the whorehouse

>>27338916
why would Cover give a shit about this?

>>27339809
>There's no management, no mangers, no board telling you what to do.
Management is what handles Hishojo's various corporate sponsorship. Management was also responsible for the Nux fiasco as a result of severe miscommunication between Nux, management, and the talents.

>>27339421
cognitive dissonance
>>27339807
not reading your incel pseudo-psychology analysis

>>27338916
The reason vtubers were good because they have rules and restrictions, without that they are no different from twitch thots

>>27338916
Nah. I am too. Fuck Cover and their weird idol shit. There's nothing wrong with talents choosing idol imagery, but forcing grown people to stick to that kind of clown kayfabe is stupid. The fans are also equally stupid for trying to force it.

>>27339421
Fucking this. All the shit about muh creativity was just empty garbage.

>>27339421
Kson bros pls defend this

>>27339964

>>27338916
>when kson was in cover she made the "creative content" of reddit reacting
>which is what twitch shit has been this entire time
honestly i have no idea what you niggers are so surprised about
this pairing was always going to happen

>>27340002
>hate idol ideology
>join an idol company
>wtf I have to be an idol now??????
Don't join the idol company if you don't want to be an idol. How hard is this to understand?

>>27339919
The Nux thing happened because pink cat is a retard that couldn't keep her mouth shut then both sides entered a race trying to out-retard each other. Management was pretty much nonexistent for the whole thing.

>>27339258
Holo lost it's top two talents to a rival company after mismanaging both of them. There's no way other corpos and the talents themselves won't notice. The past year the cracks on Cover have already been clear with how shit content has been.

>>27340002
Imagine joining an idol agency and be expected to be an idol, jesus that is insane

>>27339964
Vtubers WERE good before the rules and regulations, now they're stagnant and boring

>>27340002
>There's nothing wrong with talents choosing idol imagery, but forcing grown people to stick to that
the talents choose to audition for cover you absolute fucking moron

>>27340100
This.

>>27339945
Ywnbaw

>>27340002
>There's nothing wrong with talents choosing idol imagery
You obviously don't think that you weirdo.

>>27340126
Coco and Rushia self-imploding has nothing to do with Covers poor management and everything to do with them being an entitled whore and a menhera.

>>27340114
The entire reason Nyanners got pissed at Nux and made her post saying that they told him not to release the video was because that's what the manager told them, which wasn't what actually happened. The talents all collectively shat on Nux because of the manager's incompetent handling of the situation where they didn't tell Nux not to release the video but told the talents that they did. Once the talents found out about this idiocy and that Nux wasn't actually told not to release the video is when most of them apologised to him.
Hence, it was a fiasco caused by mismanagement.

>>27339809
its literally a corporation, they got 11 million dollars in investment funding, they can be sued for 11 million dollars due to profiting off of copyright violations.

>>27340154
No faggot they weren't good before the rules and regulations because back then they didn't exist yet, just a few randoms like funke memeing with facerig

>>27340002
they aren't forcing anyone, if they dont like it they can just leave, your reasoning doesnt make sense, like, would you join a circus if you don't like being a clown? why did you join then faggot.

I don't know if they're restrictive, but they certainly seem inefficient. Most of the holos streams max 1 hour per day, yet they all talk about how busy they are. Is cover just filling their day with bullshit meetings or something? At the very least they shouldn't need to waste time making their own thumbnails.

>>27340304
>Implying other talents are not also struggling under Cover's shit management
At least three talents are undergoing treatment for strained vocal chords.

>>27338916
>Am i the only one
No. There's lots of other trannies like you on Reddit and Twitter. You should go back and join them.

Now watch as Vshoujo JP becomes the perfect balance of western freedom and Japanese conservatism

the fuck does this even mean? neither left because of restrictive management in the first place

>>27340358
>Most of the holos streams max 1 hour per day
>At the very least they shouldn't need to waste time making their own thumbnails.

Even people in the easiest jobs think they're working their asses off.

>>27340358
Their game permissions are also shit compared to other companies which is why when they finally get a new game all of them bandwagon onto the same game. There's very little variety in Hololive content and it's been that way for at least a year.

>>27339011
fpbp
>>27339022
spbp
>>27339849
dilate the bacteria-filled crotch wound

>>27340100

The idol company where a 25% of the talent is doing softcore porn with IRL identities the audience is well aware of.

>Also
>Matsuri

>>27339011
fpbp
>>27339849
fuck off finana

>>27340445
vtubers are ungrateful pieces of shit.

>>27340398
Talents doing a straining voice hardly has anything to do with management. It's just a health issue that comes with the job, as weird as it sounds.

>>27340100
hololive is not an idol company anymore

>>27340486
Noel is not 25% of the talent and acting like she is doesn't give you a good argument.

>>27340430
That won't go as well as you think. You'll probably only get all the zoomer Japanese followers who grew up only knowing about Western ideas from Hollywood and the internet. You'll hate it overtime.

>>27339011
God, I hope hololive keeps redpilling people

>>27338916
>le freedom to be a backstabbing doxxleaking menhera whore

>>27340441
Cope, kson specifically left because mangement modded chink antis in her chat like retards

>>27340445
They're pretty consistent about it though, just about every one of them talk about how busy they are, and some of them have worked real jobs before. 5 hours a week is a long way from the standard 40, so they must be filling those hours with something.

>>27340441
Rushia
>management let her take the brunt of antis instead of letting her apologize right away
>threw her under the bus with the announcement implying that her and mafu were dating

Coco
>Threw her under the bus with the Taiwan fiasco
>gave antis chat mod permissions
>forced Coco to negotiate with Youtube to finally get rid of antis
>Shoved her out of promotions because of China yab

>>27340553
I probably won't watch it anyway. I can't speak Japanese and don't have any intention of learning it.

>>27340430
>perfect balance of western freedom and Japanese conservatism
lol
lmao

Flare was right.

>>27340398
So Cover is forcing them to use a character voice? Each one of them? And only 3 have problems.

>>27340535
Matsuri, Mel, probably Choco too. Then you have Kiara and Calli.

just go watch a different company if you dont watch restrictions
why you want all companies to be the same

>>27340620
Some holos have day jobs, some have interest they're working on (just remember the 5%) and some are in school. Preparing, doing and post producing the stream with thumbnails, ideas and everything, as well as permissions isn't much on its own but probably amounts to some additional stress for people who have a life aside from it.

It still is fucking easy work.

>>27339011
This. Kson went to the event as herself to promote this. People like Kson and Vei unironically jealous that their avatars are more famous then their irl selfs.

>>27340708
What do you think Flare is thinking at the moment? Doesn't she absolutely hate liar and backstabbing people? She probably wants to commit a murder right now.

>>27340897
I agree. She must be fuming right now, and for good reasons.

>>27340746
Having a separate IRL streaming account =/= doing softcore porn. Choco did ero voice works in the past, but not anymore. You have to be this disingenuous to prop up your argument and you still can only name 6 out of what, 70 members, while claiming it's 25% of them?

>>27340811
At this point, I don't think even the least popular holos need to work second jobs, and most are way too old for school.

>>27340760
>why you want all companies to be the same
Global homogenisation agenda aka American cultural imperialism.

>>27340723
It's not even the character voice, most of them with vocal chord problems got them from how they learned to sing on their own before getting actual training. that's why some of them sound different now when singing, because they had to learn to do it differently so they didn't destroy their throats.

>>27341031
They don't need to but many of them, especially the ENs have other stuff going on aside from just doing Vtubing.

>>27340637
Rushia fucked herself. She didn't keep her work and private life separate and people ended up seeing shit they shouldn't have. Then she fucked herself a second time by violating her contract.

Cover didn't fuck over Coco, China did. Coco can't fight China. Cover can't fight China. Even fucking youtube can't fight China.

>>27341004
You were the retard pretending it was only Noel. I guess Sana is on that list too. Cover's too retarded to get Genshin permissions so she has to stream that on her 2nd channel.

I wouldn't be surprised if more talents feel open to promoting their roommate.

>>27341531
Is that why Cover gave her antis mod permissions and forced Coco to manually fix it instead of cleaning up their own mistake?

>>27341315
OK. So do you have a point about the horrible abusive Cover management or are you just stupid nigger?

>>27341385
It's still strange that they would prioritize that over streaming. The amount of dead hours is honestly astonishing considering how many hololive members there are now. Mondays are basically archive days for me because nobody ever streams then.

>>27339011

>>27341656
Meds, tranny

>>27341744
Why wouldn't they prioritize that over streaming, though? They are entertainers, not just streamers. Grinding is what you do before you have a solid footing - after that, it's quality over quantity. That's true for almost every entertainers out there. For example, do you see Taylor Swift singing everyday like your average young singers?
I'm not saying that they should just skip streaming, mind you. However, if they are busy with projects that they think will be more entertaining / beneficial than a few normal streams, they should go ahead and focus on those.

>>27339011
fpbp

>>27339011
King shit.

>>27342197
I'm not the one bootlicking a shit corpo. You're the one who needs meds. I hope Cover crumbles.

>>27339011
fpbp

>>27342975
>bootlicking
You're not a rebel, tranny. You got your axe wound thanks to the medical industrial complex.

>>27342197
Meds, your licking corpo boot so hard your denying facts

>>27343368

>>27340529
>Hate idol idealogy
>Join company that has well known strict management policies
>Expected to abide by these policies, aka act like an idol
>B-But Hololive is not an idol company anymore!
It doesn't fucking matter what you label it as. The point is that Hololive's policies are well known so don't fucking choose to join and then act like you're being blindsided by being expected to abide by them.

>>27341575
>You were the retard pretending it was only Noel
Because it is, you idiot.
>Having a separate IRL streaming account =/= doing softcore porn.

>>27339011
checked and fpbp
>>27339022
checked and spbp