/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>27512942
Kson forgot to tell that small indies to vshojo are not invited

>>27512942
My rrat is that she's been trying to get the other Hololive members to deflect, but they turned her down, so she's finally accepting it and moving on. She truly hated Hololive's brand.

>except if you're not already huge, that's the vshojo way
>new talent just gets doxed

>>27513050
> Saviourfag
> Doesn't help small indies

Pick one and only one anon
She even save indie industry herself

>>27513107

>>27513107
> stop Marine from graduate
> Help Haachama came back to stream
> Help fix Suisei's computer after graduate.

Moron retard and KYS

>>27512942
Wait is she actually losing some noticable fans? That's a surprise

>>27513137
Learn English, motherfucker

>>27513137
>She even save indie industry herself
By showing that even someone with records as good as her still needed to join a corpo in the end to profit as much as other corpo chuubas?
She could've been the shining beacon for indies and shown that an indie can make as much money as corpo chuubas if they try really hard, but she sold out. Once a corpo, forever a corpo, I guess.

>>27513229
pics like >>27513107 are probably bad optics and not helping her

>>27512942

>>27513326
How is >>27513107 bad optics, though? I meant, looks like just a playful pic (unless you didn't mean the Yagoo mask guy, and focused more on her round face and belly instead). You will need to reach pretty hard to find any ill will there

>>27513262
Sorry, I will do my best
T. Jp

>>27513287
Do you watch her explain about Vshoujo yesterday?

> still indie and have her own copyright IP
> support which indies lack like TECH,LEGAL, Accounting and Collab management.

You should watch her Transporter watchalong stream.

> she explain more about her decision

>>27513229
No idea about Japanese fans, but there are a lot of people who like vtubers but hate vshojo. I feel like vshojo is everything that's wrong with vtubing.

>>27513456
oh like voms??? sure, buddy

>>27513456
>still indie
That's bullshit and you know it, vshojo like to call themselves a company when it's convenient to dmca strike people, but otherwise for some everyone is suddenly an indie.

>>27513476
Well, that true and that why Vshoujo talk about this Kson and want her's knowledge about JP culture.

Kson said I will help you but Gunrun just said no you join us and boom.

>>27513518
Unlike Voms because you have freedom about your own Vtuber model unlike VOMs

>>27513456
vShojo is a company based out of San Fransico. Do you think they are a non profit organization or something?

>>27513575
But according to kson everyone there loves vtubers and Japanese culture.

>>27513476
and people who say that are usually a small minority of holokeks who are still coping

>>27513107
seethe

>>27513107
Ogey

>>27513563
Company in legal
Action like indie
Intention is important

> My rrat is that she's been trying to get the other Hololive members to deflect, but they turned her down, so she's finally accepting it and moving on. She truly hated Hololive's brand.

>>27513629
Gunrun love Vtuber that important

>>27513628
They profit from merch and sponser.
I don't see anything wrong with it

> My rrat is that she's been trying to get the other Hololive members to deflect, but they turned her down, so she's finally accepting it and moving on. She truly hated Hololive's brand.

>>27512942
I LOVE HER SO MUCH

>>27513107
It's amazing how quickly Holofags turned on her when she graduated. You people really do love the brand more than the talents, huh?

>>27513632
The only reason she got the attention of vshojo is because of those holokeks following her RM when she was in and when she left hololive.

I think their vision are the same

> Talent first
> management are supporter not their's boss
> Do not throw talent under the bus but silence them
> Tech , Legal , Merch and Collab management support for indie

I understand why Kson come to Vshoujo. It suit her's taste

>>27513833
She graduated a year ago. What are you on about?

>>27512942
I hope kson and mike the cat do well with vshojo jp
kson has had people try to scam and bullshit her as a full indie

>>27513107
Love this motherfucker.

>>27513833
This and unironically

>>27513903
Actually not by her talked yesterday.
Kson prepared for comicke and accidently met Vshoujo's staff and exchange contact.

>>27513833
are you even sure its holofags? youve known just in here that people bait/fake/pretendtobe just to stir things for amusement.

>>27514002
I'm sure a lot of indies met the vshojo staff, not a single one was offered to head up a branch of their own.

>>27513976
really, was it merch stuff or something else?

>>27513833
She graduated a year ago, anon. A lot of things have changed since.

>>27513833
Nijiniggers falseflagging as Holofans is a common reoccurrence in vt

>>27513921
>Talent first
Thats just a buzzword
>management are supporter not their's boss
vShojo management doesnt exist. the girls are pretty much on their own. The girls direct managers in Hololive are often some of their best friends and supporters but upper management can be shit this is true
> Do not throw talent under the bus but silence them
Wait until the faggots find her previous homophobic comments
> Tech , Legal , Merch and Collab management support for indie
Their legal department is a joke and I doubt the others are much better

>>27513903
Kson or rushia? Because kson knew vshojo(mostly mel) before she graduated holo

the delinquent gimmick doesn't really work for her

>>27513476
>Letting vt rrat brainwash you.
I am not surprised that Nijiniggers brainwash you into hating Nijisanji either.

>>27513833
I still suspect it's just bugmen seething. kson is just saviourfagging as usual, this time it's vshojo's turn

>>27513921
Yeah it makes sense.

>>27513107
A single pic made the twitter trannies go haywire. Good job. Even the wojacks are /here/ kek.

>>27512942
I have to say, she has been VERY clever with her communications, she probably has her lawyer on fucking speed dial 24/7

>>27513833
>holofan
You bugs are trying way too hard but also not hard enough at the same time

>>27514210
>I still suspect it's just bugmen seething.
Why do you only suspect it when you usually call everyone a bugman for the slightest bit of criticism?

>>27514145
I mean Pink Cat managed to get a nendo, their merch arm is definitely something to be reckoned with

>>27514260
Lol medicate yourself onegai

>>27514050
According from Yesterday
It's begin from March 2022 after Mikeneko incident that she decided to join VshoujoJO as the fisrt member.

> We can assume Mikeneko incident change Kson's mind.

>>27514145
Are you newfag?
If you watch Hololive 2019-2020, management was like non- exist. They just have role around 2021 and Omega faggot

>>27514318
So you're a dumb nigga then?

The ESL grammar in this thread is giving me cancer

>>27514322
If it's the main way they make revenue, it better be on point.

>>27514344
>If you watch Hololive 2019-2020, management was like non- exist.
I am surprised how people forget this. Hololive management got in her way more than helped. It looks like with VShojo she gets more like what she wants: "assistance" not "management".

>>27514433
Gumenasorry

>>27514433
At least the ESL who is posting has actually watched her streams with her discussion, and isn't just repeating recycled rrats.

>>27514433
>Imagine surviving as EOP in 2022
Old man Biden not gonna save you anon.

>>27513205
You're stupid and brain damaged to think that her caring about the members of Hololive means she can't dislike the brand itself. You probably can't bring up an instance where she cared about management for anything.

>>27513921
Remember how Hololive used to be Talents First before a bunch of old man decide to micromanage them?

>>27514433
chinga tu madre

>>27514627
Not really, but I remember it being a tech company fumbling it's way towards relevance.

I hate vshojo because they are unashamed whores and ought to be punished for whoring so blatantly. I know all women are whores but just letting them go on hour after hour taking about sex or whore shit it becomes beyond insufferable. I hope true vtuber fans will stick to the closet hours instead who pretend not to have boyfriends but obviously have them.

>>27513833
Holofags still respected Kson even after the graduation, while calling any anti a Zhang or nijinigger. It was this moment, her joining Vshojo at the anniversary of her fucking graduation, after we're all crying and making eulogies for Coco, that she'd become Judas.

>>27513137
>She even save indie industry herself
By selling out?

>>27514577
Kson dislike overwhelm management and everyone know it.

Actually, Kson is saving Hololive right now for not become total black company.

> treate Talent well or they will quit. Money can't stop them
> Do not throw them under the bus or they will join VshoujoJP.

I think she is saving Hololive but you never notice.

>>27514664
So you from the 2019 era or possibly didn't witness erolive era.

>>27514627
>old man
after the failed rape incident with mel all the girl's managers are women

>>27513950
>>27514103
And this board has been shitting on her for like, 9 months of that year. It didn't start yesterday.
>>27514026
>>27514142
Feels too convenient to just say "Actually whenever people do things I don't like they're only PRETENDING to be fans".
>>27514210
I do think this is part though. Not all of them (again, too convenient), but I'm sure there's a few who come on here to start fights occasionally.
>>27514286
>You bugs
What. You realize that was a pro-Kson post, right?

>>27514753
It's a figure of speech anon.

>>27514720
No, she are the pillar of indie who you can be if you try more

She even saved some indies from quit Vtubing in 3D debut unironically

>>27514577
Isn't that a good thing then? If she thinks the management is doing a bad job of course she should dislike them.

>>27514845
>She even saved some indies from quit Vtubing in 3D debut unironically
That was pretty touching to see. I am an unfeeling robot with no emotions, but even I felt moved by the indies who said her 3D inspired them.

>>27514763
It's pretty obvious most of the anti kson posts are from western fans of holoCN who are still angry
Even when pretending to be standard holofans they cant' help themselves from going
>they graduated a branch for her!
or
>art*a was right!!!

>>27514742
>Do not throw them under the bus or they will join VshoujoJP.

she broke a fuking nda even after they explicitly said that they don't care about whatever their talents do in theri personal life
what did you expect they do? cheer her for be a stupid 30 years old menhera

>>27514890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9orh9uyiSo&t=4290s
1.11.00
人性の希望, みんなの希望
もう, そう, 色んな人も希望
やっぱりね

She is saving them... ฺ
The pillar of indie

>>27514802
feels more like a misleading narrative from a tourist but whatever

>>27514959
Isn't it sad that a mere NDA destroy her fan base by the management in under 5 second without a proper reconsideration from her fanbase?

>>27515039
What?

>>27514959
Mike is Kson' friend.
Can you imagine Kson abadon her friend when Mike need most?

Do not mistake
> Kson is saviourfag
> not moralfag or justicefag
> she will save all

>>27515122
Tldr: Shutting down a talent without giving a second chance is bad

>>27515190
This and unironically.
If Kson did not came to stop Mike at that time and bring her second chance.

Situation will become very ugly.

Tha fact that vcucks and nijiniggers have to resort to posting wojaks tells me everything I need to know about them.

>>27515235
she stops her to end up like amber heard

discord gg/XfX4kE6Rb8
drawfriends....come....

>>27513476
Most people don't even know what vshojo is, and by most people I mean the people who keep complaining about vshojo. They don't know how the company works and who the members are. Ridiculous.

>>27513629
They still are Kaigai nikki ( outsider).
They need someone inside nikki to educate them.

>>27515190
>Second chance
Nigga, ignoring the NDA shit. She kept suicide baiting. Any sympathy I might have had is out of the fucking window because of that. She's a fucking adult. If I suicide baited on a corporate account I'd get fucking blacklisted from my industry for life. That's just how life works.

>>27515397
>She's a fucking adult
You know being an adult doesn't mean you are immune to being menhera.

>>27515190
How would you know if there isn't list of chances already?

>>27513747
>I don't see anything wrong with it
The part where she's blatantly lying about being an indie.

>>27515705
Are you one of those people who cries when Pikamee calls herself an indie too?

>>27515306
Actually , we have evidence that she might contact Anti- Vtuber group like Kanto assocuation for leak more information.

But Kson came just in time

>>27515705
But she still is and what is your point?

>>27513629
>according to kson everyone there loves vtubers and Japanese culture
Isn't she one of those surface/ironic weebs? She picked Naruto as her favorite anime, it'd make sense for her to say the others "love anime and Japanese culture" if they're the same level ironic weeb.

>>27515397
You should think more about she really suicide attemp but not successful and Kson pick her before she death just in time.

Source deleted twitter

>>27513629
Shows how much she actually knows about them

>>27515755
Yeah we slowing dragging her down to the rabbit hole thanks to the Gundam fags.

>>27514210
That would mean a majority of this board are bugs then

>>27515755
Now, she is Jojofag because of Mouse
She like Okuyatsu

>>27514925
They did indeed graduate a branch for her but it was a price worth paying for getting out of China, if Artia was right or not i don't care about and i doubt there is any actual artiafags that genuinely cares about her beyond using her for shitposting.

>>27515825
Yeah it's on a Starship Trooper level. Till this day no one have found the Brain bug yet.

>>27515190
SHE WAS GIVEN SEVERAL CHANCES
THEY TOLD HER TO STOP MONTHS IN ADVANCE BEFORE SHE GOT FIRED BY SAYING HEY, THIS GUYS LIKE JAPANESE TMZ, FUCK OFF FROM BEING HIS FRIEND FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY
THEY GAVE HER ADVICE
SHE IGNORED
SHE'S A 30 YEAR OLD 13 YEAR OLD
SHE DESERVES 0 SYMPATHY

>>27515893
Damn, y'all needa get that looked at.

>>27513476
B-but kson said they are a group of people that love vtubing and respect japanese culture!

>>27513107
Your life must be hollow for not understanding a joke

>>27513137
Like those indies who auditioned for Vshojo months ago and got nothing but getting doxxed?

>>27515845
HololiveCN must be terminated anyway.
They have evident about their's tratior action.

They even sent death tread to Subaru,Korone,Sora and Yagoo. When they have evident about Artia spam discord.

HololiveCN was finished

>>27515272
Holokeks still seething 3 days later

>>27515893
>TOLD HER TO STOP MONTHS IN ADVANCE
That happened under 1 week.
>LIKE JAPANESE TMZ, FUCK OFF FROM BEING HIS FRIEND FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY
It was confirmed that she leaked her manager's line
>SHE'S A 30 YEAR OLD 13 YEAR OLD
SHE DESERVES 0 SYMPATHY
What?
Bro you need to take medication and calm the fuck down.

>>27516003
They were aware she was in contact with this person literally last october/november, retard

>>27515893
Well, I understand you but the fact that Mike is Kson's friend doesn't chance.

You can't stop saviourfag to help her's friend

>>27516003
>>SHE'S A 30 YEAR OLD 13 YEAR OLD
>SHE DESERVES 0 SYMPATHY
>What?
He means she's a 30 year old with the mental age of a 13 year old.

>>27515958
Vshojo was never about to hire random indies. They always have their eyes set on these big vtubers.

>>27515958
That NUX fukery.
I know about this and Gunrun sorry about this

>>27516063
That's a pure definition of menhera so Japanese healthcare doko? Mane-chan doko?

>>27513629
Guess she doesn’t realize that Vshojo would burn her former coworkers at the stake because they like loli and shota. Don’t even get them started if she doesn’t use the proper pronouns by accident…

>>27516003
Didn't she also threaten to leak information on which holo has a boyfriend as well?

>>27516003
She cantact Kore until December and stop but contact him again in Febuary

>>27516074
>>27516074
This pretty much. Because otherwise a huge chunk of 2view twitchers would had already been a part of it already.

>>27515705
Retard alert right here guys

>>27516119
They wouldn't because they are on the same team, it's always been that way.

>>27516020
>aware she was in contact with this person literally last october/november, retard
So you are telling me that management aware of this long ago and yet they literally do nothing to prevent it?

>>27516127
Well, that not true.

>>27516127
It's a unconfirmed rrat from 5ch

>>27516197
Giving someone advice to prevent something bad that at the time is the complete unknown, is still considered prevention.
When you completely ignore it, that's negligence and also being a fucking retard

>>27516184
>they are on the same team
lol
lmao

This thread is giving me an aneurysm. The ESL levels have reached critical mass. And before you retards go "HURR EOP", I'm not, but guess what: writing badly in another language to the point that even native English speakers can't decipher your posts doesn't make you selectively intelligible to other ESLs, it just makes your posts completely incomprehensible.
What fucking countries are you all from that is producing English this bad?

>>27516197
Yes, they just wait her fuck up happen.
Acutually, I always aus about
" Who turn on discord's notice when streaming" because it's off by default.

> SOMEONE MUST TURN IT ON

>>27516253
So tldr it's ok if a Japanese did it but when a Westerner did it, it becomes SJW political moral fagging bullshit.

>>27515825
It's a vocal minority you fag

>>27516262
Japan

Gomenasorry..... English is musukashit

>>27516262
Texas.

>>27516253
That's the point, they won't do shit to criticize kson or mike even if it goes against whatever SJW shit they spew out.

>>27516093
Are you Chinese or Japanese? Gunrun has connections to twitch btw, and those types are never sorry about these things, only sorry they got caught. Slimy business men.

>>27516292
>Giving Mods right to chinks on Coco's chat was not an accident
AHHHHHHH ARE THESE POSSIBLY A CORPORATE SABOTAGE?

Shit I need to take my meds.

" Who turn on discord' noticeficstion when stream that Mafumafu day?"

I always think about it

We have some rrat that
" Rushia turn on by herself for capture Mafumafu heart"
But we know that
" Ruhsia know little about Tech"
Can we really think she plan to turn on by herself and wait Mafumafu answer?

" Why have she risk her carrier lije this?"

>>27513833
I never liked orange dragon

>>27516490
> Chink is mindset not race
> by this logic , I am not Chink

Sorry for my bad English anyway

>>27516529
Are you having a stroke?

>>27516529
bro your english is trash

>>" Ruhsia know little about Tech"
chat was telling Rushia that we could see her discord msgs, but she ignored chat


>>" Why have she risk her carrier lije this?"
cause shes a hag whos expiring

>>27514092
her new 3d model iirc, she's almost scammed by the price

>>27516529
Someone say
" It just a bug and it can happen when discord update patch" but

" We never have another accident like this again and it's just happen only to Rushia that day"

>>27514509
Get off the English board then, bugman.

>>27516564
So not Chinese, or are you Taiwanese or something? Chink is typically a slur for Chinese more specifically. You're english isn't bad if you know enough about Asian languages to translate the usual mistakes they make. Good job for practicing though, anon. Seems there are multiple esls in this thread, did 5chan bring us up again or something?

>>27516596
>chat was telling Rushia that we could see her discord msgs, but she ignored chat
She was collabing on Miko's channel might be a reason why she didn't look at the chat and also if the chat was tell rushia that her discord is leaking why didn't Miko make any attempt to voice out about it too?

>>27516634
4chan is made by a Japanese btw.

>>27516596
No, I have other theory

" someone set trap to her and she never notice until too late"

By someone who hate Rushia in company and capable to turn on discord's notice and know about Mafunafu's behaviour.

>>27516596
It's normal to focus Collab friend(Miko) in Collabo stream more than chat.

>>27516717
>capable to turn on discord's notice
I think that's not something that changes account side, so that'd have to be someone who could literally come into her house and change it on her computer. Doesn't seem likely.

>>27516764
We have one but this possibility was shadow by drama at that time.

"New Rushia's manager who always hate Rushia's behaviour"

Guys Gontinyuuu

>>27516764
I have to disagree on this one. From what I know is that Discord settings are saved on the Server side, which means anyone have access to the account can make changes to the settings and will automatically sync with other devices.

>>27516871
> Rushia use her company discord contact Mafumafu
>anyone have access to the account can make changes to the settings and will automatically sync with other devices.
> Someone who hate Rushia and know about this in company can fuck her's life in the long distance.

That's sound very worse

>>27516687
rushia was streaming on her channel anon.. wtf did you watch?

>>27516967
but we dont have evidence on that other than speculation and some suicide baiting

>>27512942
so VShojo just invited Rushia to join them without any input from kson? okay.

>>27513833
She literally caused the implosion of 6 of the CN girls, then left the company because, in her own words,"i kept comparing myself to the other girls"
Now she is bragging about doing whatever the fuck she wanted as an indie, but she had an entire year of doing whatever she wanted as an indie and basically put fuck all effort into 97% of her streams the past year.
Now she's bragging about being able to do whatever she wants again when, honestly, there are way more bilingual la creatividad girls in the scene that fulfill every sort of role she used to

No one is turning on kson as much as people have just lost interest, she's getting old and her content isn't fresh and new anymore, code miko did her gimmick with the mixed vtuber and irl streaming, reddit meme reviews are dead we are in the react streamer era now

>>27517409
You check out the Q&A stream yet?

>>27516819
I have enough popcorn for 9 days.

>>27516321
Yeah no, the majority of 4chan dislikes vshojo

>>27517469
cope CNtard
your shit branch is gone

>>27517474
You mean the stream where kson is telling blatant lies about VShojo? Yeah I watched it and it was useless.

>>27514577
she made holoEN
>hurrdurr she hate hololie
ok duuuuuuuuuud

>>27517508
Majority of this site do their own shit.

>>27517513
I never watched any of those whores, the only thing I've literally ever seen of CN was a clip of I think artia saying do u rely belieb that

I am stating as a fact that Kson became famous during the vtuber bubble, but so many vtubers that came after her have replaced every single thing she does
There are literally 10,000's more vtubers than 2.5 years ago

I hope JP posters reading this thread not take everything posted here at face value.

>>27516871
You bring new possibility about what really happen that day now.

Fact check
> Rushia did not split Hololive account and private account. She use it contact MFMF and KRKR several times.
> Discord 's noticfication always turn off by default.
> Rushia's new manager hate her. She has motivation.
> Rushia has low tech knowledge. She can't change shit.

Well, we assume that is a " bug" or " Rushia turn on by herself" but .....

This is just a rrat or 1 possibility
> if someone in company set trap to Rushia.
> some people hate Rushia's behaviour and this is a fact.
> They know about Rushia contact with KRKR and MFMF and want to make her quit.
> but They just can't kick her out without drama or else it's not justified for fan.
What if
> They just turn on discord noticfication when stream without her's know
> and wait for Mafumafu message to her
> it can be any message but " Mii- chan" is very good for make Rushia suffer by this.
> Oh Rushia need help? No, let talk Monday. I won't help you now.
> it over expactation from begining but welcome one. Rushia will contact KoreKore and she is finished.
> I sent all evidents to higher-up and they must terminate Rushia. I won
> Mikeneko should become iirelevent and homeles.
> No, I don't hear you. I will talk one side and terminate you. Good bye Mikeneko

>>27517523
>blatant lies about VShojo?
So you believe anon's rrat over someone whom actually have the 1st hand interacting Vshojo's Management.

>>27517570
Post a picture of ironmouse anywhere on the site, you will get a different reaction than if you post korone
People don't like vshojo here, it's a very small containment thread on /vt/

>>27517664
source dude trust me

>>27513107
Well she literally declared war on corporate vtubing, so you right.

>>27517664
Wow since when you represent the rest of us on /vt/? Did we held an election to norminate you as the president of vt?

>>27517628
This is a new level of desperation for rrats

>>27516711
>4chan is made by a Japanese
>Made
>by a Japanese
I'm sure he wishes he was a nip, but he's very much so a burger, no matter where he resides nowadays.

>>27513833
Not hard when you never liked her in the first place.

>>27517647
So you believe PR campaign?

>>27517623
Her fans don't give a shit, the only thing they care about it whether or not her content will get better, and most likely, it won't, because she's gotten old and complacent
I get it, she's secured the bag and can just have a safe living doing gunpla and doing unboxing streams, for a lot of people, that's the dream, but it's boring content from someone who everyone had so much hope in
Vshojo won't change that
Her outfit at the expo wasn't even hers, it was a random cosplayers they borrowed
Merryweather was the one who made that animation, she didnt commission in

Kson has gotten lazy as shit and people are kind of tired of saviorfagging someone who no longer cares about streaming beyond showing off their adidas x gucci hauls

>>27517474
She joined it so now she gets the good old usual response
>Watch Vshojo? No.

>>27517698
>>27517758
Go post a random picture of korone, anywhere on 4chan, just use her as random reaction image.
Now do the same with ironmouse.

People don't like vshojo, you will have a lot of people to kill yourself for posting ironmouse, they will call you a /vt/ranny, they will tell you to die, they will tell you to go back
No one says anything bad if you post korone, now, one of the EN girls like gura, you'll get some, but korone, you'll get no backlash

>>27517623
Any jp poster who knows 5chan would know better than to take everything said on a site like this at face value, probably-asian anon. Hopefully they'll take away how actually shit Vshojo is and try to get Coco out of it though.

>>27517828
So you believe words coming out from Schizos.

>>27517940
No, since I don't believe you or kson.

>>27517875
>Watch Vshojo?
Nigga no one asking you to watch Vshojo, I talking about kson's Q&A stream from yesterday. It answered if Vshojo invited mike or not.

>>27517940
Not him but that's a literal PR campaign, when she said there are absolutely no cons when being in vshojo I laughed out loud, she got unfollowed by every single nijiEN as soon as she was partnered with them

>>27517937
the only people who could tell them apart are already vtuber fans you moron

>>27515789
Nigga, if any of her suicide messages were real and not bait she would have died 30 times over by now. How fucking naïve are you.

>>27517782
Yes, I know but it's bugging for long time.

If it's not really a bug ( very low possible and it's just only Rushia turn on in that day. May be split acoount help another Holomem ebade from this too)
Or " Rushia want MafuMafu marriage" shit ( Really?)

Only 1 possibility remain
" who hate Rushia in company "

>>27518004
>she said there are absolutely no cons
You taking it out of context here, she later then said she will see it in the future then chat joke about it that her gaining weight is already a con.

>>27516197
>So you are telling me that management aware of this long ago and yet they literally do nothing to prevent it?
They did something to prevent her. They warned her and then fired her. What the fuck do you expect them to do? Hold her at gunpoint?

>>27517847
> gotten lazy
> just debut 3D
Really?

>>27518000
>Watch kson's Q&A stream
>Kson is a part of Vshojo now
Not watching Vshojo, no exceptions.

Just an observation but now I'm really convinced there is an actual jap posting in the Mike/Kson drama threads like this one. I thought they stick to /jp/. Not that it's a good or bad thing, it's just very peculiar.

>>27518106
It's VshojoJP btw.

>>27518012
No, because ironmouse is constantly being shilled on twitch with other big name streamers, there was a huge shit show a few months ago when quin69 made fun of how embarrassing vshojo was in the g4 collab

Normies know who ironmouse is, reluctantly, big streamers start banning people in their chat when people talk shit about ironmouse because pity party, that's one of the big reasons why she was the highest gifted subbed streamer on twitch, a bunch of big streamers felt bad about their chats talking about how much they dislike ironmouse, so they pity gifted and banned their chat
A lot of normalfags absolutely detest how astroturfed she is, and she is the "most seiso" member by normalfag standards

>>27518084
>They did something to prevent her. They warned her and then fired her.
Wow where did you get the source? Rrats from vt or 5ch?

>>27518040
No, my point is someone in company may set trap to her in that day. They know and they can ruin their's life if they want. They just show it to every Hololive member.

That why they so quite about it
> they afraid to be next target

>>27518004
And they were following her before she joined lmao
Even your schizo logic doesn't make sense. Btw, all of NijiEN still following Ironmouse.
On top of all that, who the fuck cares who Niji EN is following anyway?

>>27518130
>I thought they stick to /jp/
Why would they do that? /jp/ talks about /jp/ chuubas, usually juse holos too, they can just do than on 5chan if they wanted. If they wanted to talk about overseas ones (the only reason they'd post on an english site) they'd go here where they can discuss both at their leisure. Also, he's either Chinese or Japanese, they tend to make the same grammatical mistakes.

>>27518233
Korekore talked about it and yes he has evidence about it.

New manager hate Rushia on that message he shown on stream.

>>27518100
Yeah there's one or two people who go around saying "Kson hasn't done anything!" in every thread, and clearly haven't actually followed her. I'll bet they think that she "hasn't done anything" because it didn't flood the catalog or show up in hlgg or whatever.

>>27518100
She debuted 3d 4 years ago on her own fucking kson channel, this was just a 3d with her new design

When she first went indie, she invited indies to her channel every week, she had a meme review with an indie every week, and everyone thought she was going to unityfag the indie community together

You know what she did?
She gave that up after the 3rd week, and just did gunpla and ark streams the whole year, she completely gave up on reaching out to JP indies outside the occasional ex yakuza man stream

>>27518251
Rosemi did

>>27514322
They also have an Ironmouse Nendo coming too.
And they also announced Nyanners and Veibae Pop Up Parades during the con event they had

>>27514577
>You probably can't bring up an instance where she cared about management for anything.
While I can't tell how she feels about the management *now*, she was willing to, according to her own words, spend a lot of her own time and money to sue matomefags for twisting her words to attack Cover, as Kson. Why the fuck would she do that if she didn't care about the management? Are you implying that she was willing to spend her time and money just to virtue signaling?
You can still find her tweet posts in which she said something in the line of "It will take a lot of time and money, but I'm willing to go to the end" when she threatened matomefags with legal actions.
I've never seen anyone who claimed that "Kson dislike the management" being able to provide an acceptable explanation for that, and I assume you won't do better. Kson might have disliked all the rules and restrictions, but clearly she cared enough about the management to go out of her way to help them unprompted. Don't know if their relationship soured recently, though.

>>27518350
>she completely gave up on reaching out to JP indies
lol

>>27518251
They were following her because nijiEN wanted to poach her
Now that she is competition, niji management wants nothing to do with Kson anymore

Reread my post before, kson said
>Cons: Nothing!!!!!!!!!
When she was immediately blacklisted by nijisanji right afterwards, that's not nothing.
There are plenty of bad things about vshojo, mostly with how all the other vshojo girls have no management and cause PR disasters

What happens when the vshojo girls find out how many times kson has casually dropped faggot on stream? Do you understand the kind of audience vshojo has cultivated?

>>27518350
>she completely gave up on reaching out to JP indies
Yeah she say that she wanna spend more time on the current indies she have reached out so that she won't leave an impression that she interacting with JP indies just for the clout. Stop taking shit out of context you fucking nigga.

>>27517628
Even if every last bit of that was true, the reality is that Cover put out a statement saying they don't give a shit what she does in her personal life. They stood up for her. She broke NDA to "prove her innocence" and, according to your rrat, she wasn't. So she deserved to be terminated for breaching contract in order to protect herself from a lie she was caught in. Do you even understand how colossal a fuckup that is? If your rrat is true then Cover unironically was doing the right thing forcing her out before that ticking time bomb fucked things up way worse.

Sure, this paints her as a manipulative whore who was actively lying to her fans in order to make more money. Which makes her an ideal candidate for vshojo... Nevertheless, they are retarded for hiring someone with a history of breaching contract, or threatening suicide, whenever they have a menhera panic attack about their reputation. Let's not pretend vshojo doesn't have skeletons in the closet they don't want people to know about. Imagine what juicy shit she could leak from a group of unapologetic con artists and sluts.

>>27518350
> collab with Yaman family
> help Voms
> help Maha5
> Help prism project
> help small indie like Yakuza Vtuber
> help small indie came back to stream by give her old computer.
> talk with Deluta in discord and help her
> learn new 3D program by herself.
> help Vtuber indies who is Holofags like Ribbon sensei
> Collab Minecraft

Lazy my ass

>>27518465
Rushia is not an indie, I'm talking about the 3 view indies, the 4 view indies.
Kson completely gave up on anything interesting with her channel 10 months ago.

My girl and I were so excited to see her finally go indie and have creative freedom, only for her to have burnout barely a month in and do the shittiest content she ever did even in hololive, fucking ark streams

>>27518514
>Blacklisted by NijiCN
Yeah, nothing. Has she ever interacted with any NijiCN member on stream? She is trying to expand in the *JP* market, why should she care about a bunch of VTubers with heavy CN / TW / SEA audience?

>>27518350
>she had a meme review with an indie every week
no she did not
she had two with pika, one with tomari and one with himono
>she completely gave up on reaching out to JP indies
she is still interacting with the people from gmmf and also new people like ciel and leto

you're deffo more informed than the average shitposter but still seems like you haven't watched her once in months

>>27518514
she was already blacklisted by niji since 2020 lol

>>27518578
She also learned how to make her own merch and did that cafe popup.

>>27518524
Nah, she literally said it was making her tired, she responded to my fucking superchat 10 months ago you fucking vshojo grayname
I asked her directly about when the next meme review with an indie would be, and she said it was exhausting finding a guest and that she was going to make it less of a weekly thing

Later on did we find out, oh wow, she just completely fucking dropped it.

There is ZERO benefit to joining vshojo, because she already cashed in and has stopped caring about content, her streams have been boring, and I have a hard time tuning into them when there are a lot more interesting streamers to watch.

>>27518514
>Cons: Nothing!!!!!!!!!
Again I have to say that you are taking it out if context because she have stated that she currently have not experience or think of the cons of joining Vshojo.

>>27518579
https://youtu.be/pSMxsfL5wbY
https://youtu.be/bA4BgLpeFrY
https://youtu.be/oePghpVtk9A
https://youtu.be/mLNRblZMLjc

>>27518698
And got scammed 10 times price.....

>>27518712
>>27518514
Do not mis take

> No con
> for now
> she know something bad will happen
> but she decide to follow the flow

This thread sure smells like defeated country nips from 5Chan

>>27518702
>responded to my fucking superchat 10 months ago
Proof? I pretty sure she mentioned countless times that she wanna spend more time on time with the people she interacted with.

>>27518587
I don't think she has but I'm pretty sure other members of vshojo have. Will be interesting to see if Chinkisanji allows future collabs with any of them now that she's part of the group. You can say "oh it's a different branch so it's okay", but it's the chinks you have to convince and they aren't known to be rational. Still, even if they don't that's technically not a downside for her. Just everyone else in the company.

>>27518239

>>27518957
If people needed evidence before posting every thread would be single digit IPs and you know it.

>>27518637
>still seems like you haven't watched her once in months
I watched the entire fucking birthday unboxing streams, don't you tell me I don't watch her

What I am criticizing is how she is selling
>now that I'm in vshojo, so much more is possible!
Bullshit, it was possible before then, she just gave up because it was more effort than she cared to put in, which honestly, isn't a lot anymore.

I don't want to watch streams of her in minecraft with vshojo, god those were awful collabs, I'd rather another cb collab with melody if anything
Ark is fucking terrible

I'm just tired of the lazy content, and I'm tired of the forced positivity, I've given her a year of it, now that she has joined vshojo, she needs to earn my money again, and I just don't see how unless she completely changes her content, watching her on twitch is, eh, react content is fine, it's just not the creativity she promised

>>27518805
Or maybe the Pros just outclass the Cons?

>>27518578
Deluta is the next vshoujo japan member, isn't she?

>>27518957
Can you explain why
" Why only Rushia account turn on notification when stream in that fateful day?"

We have 2 choices
> Rushia turn on by herself
> Someone who hate her and know about connection between Rushia + MF + KR plan to terminate her from Hololive.

Well.... something fishy about
" this is Holiday just wait for 2 day"
This should not come from Rushia's assistant mouth.

>>27512942
Is VShonen still happening? If so what are the chances of a VSonenJP?

>>27519069
>Didn't watch the 3D promo
>Dropped Halfway of the 3D debut stream
>Didn't even watch her 3D after talk
>Didn't even watch her Singing stream.

Yeah you a filthy grey name alright.

>>27512942
Holy cringe

>>27519069
You'll remember her attempts at a merch line getting btfo because of pricing then. Neither she nor her non-vtubing-background manager knew what was a fair asking price at the time. If Vshojo affiliation provides anything, it's legal and financial advice that is current for the industry.
t. gunpla enjoyer

>>27519138
Highly possibility

> pause all projects but find manager
> Live2D finalize for fucking real this time
> Talk to Kson by discord last month
> She talked about new friend and very hapoy about it.
> She become stream regulary next 9/7
> She was saved now !

T. ESL fanbox

>>27519281
>non-vtubing-background manager
Yes she is. Kson mention it that her manager is relatively new to the industry.

>>27519281
Hello gundam oji

>>27519251
I dropped membership around January, I still keep an eye on her, but no anon, I do not blindly reward these girls for zero effort
The 3d stream I went back and clipped a part from that

>>27514577
This is a translation from a member stream she did after she announced she's gonna graduate.

>>27519401
You miss a lot of thing anon
I suggest you watch Ksox x Leto

>>27519155
>" this is Holiday just wait for 2 day"
NTA, but that wasn't what the manager said and I don't know how the fuck this kept getting spread. Going by Korekore (and you can check his stream yourself), Rushia manager told her to wait while they contacted the higher ups to deal with the issue. By the time Rushia contacted Korekore (less than 2 hours later), the manager hadn't gotten back to her yet. The "it was holiday so the management were on break and she would have to wait until Monday" were a rrat or speculation at best.
They already told her to wait and it was merely 2 hours before she couldn't wait any longer. They shouldn't need to give her an update every 30' or an hour. Seeing that Mafumafu said that his management worked with Rushia's in his statement, clearly that they were working on it instead of sitting around and laughing at her.

>>27519281
>vshojo legal advice
>just bots that search up flagged terms on different websites and auto-dmca strike videos that criticize them

>>27519519
>bots that Kson doesn't have to pay for herself

>>27519459
Yeah I love that stream, was expecting a gaming stream Collab but turns out it was an Oshi interview.

>>27519471
Thank for your correction

>>27519668
...... You did not watch to the end did you?

>>27519519
>criticize them
Don't confuse the difference between slander and criticize, miss heard.

>>27519720
Yes and a bit coop of playing the "Reading the Air" game

>>27519668
What about Kson x Ribbon anon?
You should not miss it

>>27519459
I'll put it on the backlog, thanks

>>27519746
>posting old videos of ironmouse in interviews is now slander
lmao, great company kson joined

>>27519795
https://youtu.be/ZCDdDnF8ihc

>>27519792
Ofcos I didn't miss it, people sure love to do a marriage interview with kson btw I am not the January anon.

>>27519843
>posting old videos of ironmouse
It didn't get taken down because Vshojo didn't take any action btw.

>>27519968
.... that is Himono sensei....

>>27520082
That too... But it was like marriage meme review.

>>27519968
Kson collab with male ! Oh nooooo

https://youtu.be/8inSY3PkM7c

>>27520172
Wow, I can't believe you just talked shit about our boy Taishi. Holobronies really are bunch of ungrateful cunts.

>>27520169
Well.... in some point yes... I guess

>>27520018
I've seen the anon post the
>your channel has been copyright striked by Vshojo, if you wish to counter claim, review below
It was the complete unedited video, there's no legality here it's fair use, I told him to fight it but he'd rather just repost it elsewhere, but vshojo also emails google to deboost it in search results for other websites

>>27520283
lmao they really rely on the slimiest corporate tactics they can to silence everyone and then go "lol we're so nice and wholesome TALENT FREEDUM"

>>27520283
>complete unedited video
It's already against fair use.

>>27520283
>complete unedited video
>fair use
this is a clown world

>>27520376
Lol you sounds underage to be posting on 4chan. He literally just said that the video was unedited.

>>27520283
Post them on Russian video sharing websites, Vshoujo's army of incompetent "lawyers" can't do shit against those.
It's fucking hilarious how they're trying to erase publicly available information about froot and ironmouse from the internet.

>>27520437
I don't know the specifics of whatever interview you people are talking about, I just know the jannies have a fucking hate boner for anyone posting THOSE twitter screenshots of what mouse said before, that they're suing some guy for saying froot's a cheater, that they've thrown indies under the bus, and numerous other shady shit. Everything anon said about them throwing copy claims and demanding google censor things for them seems right up their ally all things considered.

>>27520283
Completed unedit video.....

Hololive will strike you too

>>27520583
You acting like a SJW that browse through someone's tweet history just to spot the word "Nigger" and cancelling someone without any context with just based on that xx year old tweet.

>>27520720
>A company doing a shit load of shady shit repeatedly and continuing to do it is the same as the word "nigger" on some randos twitter account
Not even a good bait. 0/10

>>27520761
Well your take ain't that good either 0/10 template post.

>>27513833
She is already quit when I started watching.

>>27516253
>I wish this trend would be over already
>lolicon
>trend
This is why I hate nuweebs that got into anime in the 2000s when it became trendy. Real weaboomers know that loli manga and anime got going in the late 70s.

>>27519471
you have a timestamp for this right? if you tell me to look for it myself I'll know you're just a cover semen slurper

Guys, I think there's Japanese people here.

Hey JP-nikki, while you're here please tell me if Migo really raped Pegora

>>27521558
When you see a play person, saying Nigger is a normal greeeting to use.

>>27521892
yes now pekora is puregunanto

>>27522187
ah, naruhodo

>>27513833
Yes love the brand, Talent is admittedly not their true self anyways.

>>27521558
And they're high on cope.

>>27521945

>>27512942
ITT: Shizos parroting their shizo ideas.

If your shizo theory is true and you're an insider and not a pussy, post proof faggots.

>>27513833
I never liked that skank and retards call me a bug for it everytime.

>>27516119
>Vshojo would burn her former coworkers at the stake because they like loli and shota
Anon, vshojo just announced a loli gfe vtuber. You fell for /vt/'s delusions.

>>27517937
>Go post a random picture of korone, anywhere on 4chan, just use her as random reaction image.
You'll get called a brony and told to kill yourself lol

>>27513833
Kson is based. I like holo talents. Fuck the brand and fuck those incompetent fucks at cover in particular.

t. holofan

>>27517561
>She made holo en
She clearly hate Hololie

>>27516262
Im from yer moms pussy ya stupid fucking cum guzzler. Please insert fire ants in yer small decrepit pathetic excuse of a penis you got there.
Autist whining over "aaaah m-m-muh english"
Kill yourself

>zhangs trying to pretend they aren't the ones infesting this board shitting on kson, when threads like this one have been filled with illiterate english
l m a o

>>27527009
>every post that dare criticize the horse faced amerloc, must be a zhang!!!

Man autism + delusion paranoia is a strong combo eh

>>27527211
A chinaman fucked his mom, poor anon.

>>27526397
She love Hololive but hate board of content

>>27519333
ESL-sama I kneel to your trinity trips of truth. Also this she said once her live 2d was release implied to be soon she was going to ramp up her public streaming schedule quiet a bit which was sort of odd. Also she suddenly said she was going to drop an EP instead of a full album and found management willing to handle the leg work for her again sort of odd. Also she has been liking a lot of Kson tweets recently.

Obviously no one LEAST OF ALL HER is going to reveal a thing. What I am curious about is will she be brining Ruki with her if she did join? Even if she didn't Delta plans to do a lot of streams with Ruki and let me tell you it is CUTE when they stream together. You can feel the sisterly love they have for each other. If she joined of course.

I like Artia AND Kson

What now?

>>27528011
based vtuber liker

>>27519333
"New friend" is probably Mike.

>>27528011
you have the ability to not create artificial problems in you head, which many people here lack.

>>27528136
Probably. Delta connects really easily with Menhera and people who have been through similar hardships also normally she would just say who the person is.

>Delta goslinging over how much she loves her fans
>slowly grooming Mike into becoming a gisling for the NekoFam

holy fucking esl this thread is painful

>>27529172
chinga tu madre

>>27529428
anda a cagar mexichango sucio negro repugnante ahora ve a comprar cerveza de pesima calidad a la esquina de tu casa que queda a menos de diez metros porque seguramente en los menos de dos minutos que te toma ir y volver a tu casa te mata un narco y te descuartiza y te reparte en 16 bolsas de basura
tu mamá me chupa las bolas y le hago caca encima y le encanta

>>27529675
>mexichango
do amerifats really...

>>27529783
me importa una mierda los gringos

>>27513833
It's a cult. Holoniggers are bunch of retard

>>27529841
so it's true that the ones that latinx hate the most are others latinx

>>27529971
Asi es, los latinOs nos odiamos

>>27529971
haha you can't unhate someone like latinxs especially of you're born as one

>>27530043

it spells latinX salta muros

3 three ans fags are still seething over this kekw

>>27530115
I shit on your whole family, you dog

>>27530157
mexishitters haven't toilets I see

>>27530260
Of course they don't, they barely have a functional country(not true, by the way)

>>27529857
yes I'll admit i love corpo > talent. without the corpo i wouldn't know the talent existed. if the talent is gone i move on to one of the many vtubers cover has under them. corpo hasn't betrayed me yet unlike a certain dragon and mike

>>27514845
>she are
Holy shit, shut the fuck up

>>27513456
I feel like people don’t understand that indie originally stood for independent, as in not a member of a fucking corpo.

>>27516292
Discord notice is off by default?
Case closed then. It was 100% sabotage. It's probably Omega. Reason is: see R*shia's 1st orisong title. it overlaps with LORE.

>>27519409
Management wanted chinese mods. She wanted Kiryuu-kai mods. Different direction indeed. No one is to blame

>>27526378
It's weird because I don't want Vshojo to win. But I don't want those fucks who drove her out to gloat about being right either. How do I cope, anons

>>27514763
>Feels too convenient to just say "Actually whenever people do things I don't like they're only PRETENDING to be fans".
Of course you'd say it's too convenient. The thing is, everyone on here blames everything on holofags because a lot of people here hate Hololive and holofags, which is what I'd really say is "too convenient". I'm not saying they're all innocent, but to consistently blame one side for everything on an anonymous board with no poster IDs or flags which makes it super easy to falseflag as holofags (or any fanbase really) to shitpost and bait and then say it "feels too convenient" to say that people are pretending to be something they're not is pretty fucking dumb.

>>27517628
This is not what happened. Rushia knew the Discord notifications were on. Her own chat warned her multiple times about it and she pretended not to see.
The reality is that Rushia was the one that was laying the trap to someone else. She wanted someone else to yab on her stream, presumably her bully who was allegedly harassing her. Her plan backfired horribly.

>>27532453
Don't forget that she had the rewind feature on so people would be able to rewind and catch it more easily too.
The whole thing was very clearly planned out.

>>27513833
This should have become apparent when Rushia was fired.

>>27519155
you're sniffing too many rrats anon

>>27513833
I didn't really turn on her.
I just stopped watching her after she left.
Her legend within Hololive is still well preserved, and I'd rather not see her degenerate to just another run of the mill VTuber.

>>27513629
KSon lived in Japan for too long and forgot that Americans have no problems kissing ass for clout.

>>27517937
You're more likely to get a bunch of 'who?' for posting ironmouse.

>>27534990
>Her legend within Hololive is still well preserved

>>27535504
thought we were talking about Coco