/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>27829752
>destroy 6 Holos' careers
At least 4 of the chinks were either actively involved in or encouraging the chink raid. I don't know the situation with Spade Echo. Yogiri was 100% innocent and caught in the crossfire. A really sad situation all around. They couldn't just transfer her to a different branch because she's still in China, and even if she moved they would target any family left behind. She just wanted to be an idol and her dumbfuck countrymen took that dream from her.

I honestly doubt that much will change in their streams. Mike and Kson will both continue to stream on youtube and the JP branch probably won't interact much with the EN branch considering Mike can't speak english. Depends on who else will join vshojoJP down the line.

You'd join Vshojo too to stop fags from romanticizing Coco on her graduation anniversary every fucking year.

>>27829752
Gonna be honest, that chuba is a cartoon woman who could've been an absolutely insufferable sister to me. To have mined so much salt, styled herself after a banchou, and been chauvinistic to a fault...I can't help but be proud of her.

>>27830391
>Tatsunokos spent the entirety of June crying again
>Join a notorious whorehouse on your fucking graduation
>"I CAN'T BELIEVE I CRIED FOR THIS FUCKING WHORE"
Is Kson just a troll at this point?

>>27829752
I don't care about Kson and I hate VShojo, but I'm actually curious about her plans for VShojoJP. However, I'll shit on her the moment she suddenly decides to talk about politics or collab with Twitch fleshtuber cancer

>>27829752
>trace this image to chinks on Twitter.
>now they are laughing at Abe death.
why are they like that?

>>27829752
>>destroy 6 Holos' careers
Chinks don't count and I am glad they're gone.

I don't like vshojo and never will but I will never side with the bugs on anything. I don't like kson and never will. Zhangs are always the bad guys and this will not change no matter what.

>>27829752
she choose mikeneko

>>27830237
>Yogiri
she is taiwanese she is good

>>27832070
If vshojoJP somehow ends up actually being good I will never stop shitposting about JP vs EN.

>>27832070
Best case scenario would just be Kson Gang but with more funding

>>27832070
Best case scenario would just be Kson Gang but with more funding. And Kson knows how to shut up about politics; this is after all this is the person who's endured an entire country hating her, but still chose to shut up about it.

>>27832936
I don't know how EN could've gone so wrong while JP are so pure and wholesome.

>>27830237

Afaik of spade echo the only real comment she made was she didn't want things to change and wasn't whipping up anti coco antis. When Cn disbanded she was going to quit vtubing and was planning to emirate to the US. Artia leaked some discords showing she had a boyfriend and or something and her plans fell through. She reincarnated with a new model by her Spade mama nana kagura which I always took as an endorsement of her as she could have told her to fuck off if she was doing anything crazy. She was/is a good girl. If I am wrong feel free to correct

>>27835400
>she had a boyfriend
>who wasn't me
Nothing of value was lost

>>27831344
That's the most based thing she has ever done and I fucking dislike her.
She shut her whole "She's Vtuber Jesus!" Fanbase with that move.

>>27829752
I fucking hate that bitch

>>27830237

Civia did nothing wrong, she even received a thank you from Yagoo on Twitter when she announced her graduation.

>>27829752
i wish i can live in fantasyland like you

>>27831344
>>27835682
the pussies who dropped her a year ago because "muh no hololive" and for some reason think she owes them something, are not tatsunokos.

its been a week ans you fags are still seething lmfao

>>27829752
>Former Tatsunokos now seethe
Only the ones that never switched to kson, fuck em
I will always love her

>>27837823
My mistake. I thought she was the one watching Wolf Warrior with Artia, but apparently that was Doris? So 3/6 were likely innocent.

>>27829752
"Don't you motherfuckers see it?"

"I have a dream. That one day, every chuuba in this industry will control their OWN DESTINY. A land of the TRULY free, dammit. A market of CREATORS, not idols. Ruled by ENTERTAINMENT, not Corpo. Where the audience changes to suit the V-Tuber, not the other way around. Where power and creative freedom are back where they belong: in the hands of the performer! Where every virtual streamer is free to think -- to act -- for themselves! Fuck all these limp-dick unicorns and chicken-shit management. Fuck this 24/7 Internet spew of clippers and idolfagging bullshit. Fuck professionalism. Fuck the shitposters! Fuck all of it! Idol culture is diseased. Rotten to the core. There's no saving it We need to pull it out by the roots. Wipe the slate clean. BURN IT DOWN! And from the ashes, a new culture will be born. Evolved, but untamed! The boring will be purged, and the creative will thrive free to live as they see fit, they will make V-TUBING GREAT AGAIN!"

>>27838832
That'd be the ramblings of someone who didn't want my money or realize that the only way to justify destruction is with the creation of something better.

If all you do is tear something down and fail to rebuild something in its place, all that will remain is the smoldering ruins of what once was great.

>>27838832
Unironically this is what she's doing. She wants to destroy vtubing as it currently exists so that only talents stand at the top and companies exist only to help the talents. You may not like her but she's got a dream and she's working every day towards achieving it, and she might be the one vtuber who can actually make it happen.

>>27839287

Goodluck with your oshi
>History begs to differ though

>>27838159
>Someone please help! My back hurts from moving this goalpost way too hard!
That's you, faggot.

>>27832070
>collab with Twitch fleshtuber cancer
she's literally already done this

>>27832175
Hey, I think we can all agree that Abe was funny. He's up in heaven trying to get the angels to mating press now

>>27838832
Who's Raiden in this case?

>>27838832
lmao I'll believe it when she makes something of herself that isn't still riding on her hololive clout when her stint as an indie was so lack luster. No matter how you depict it her new job with vshitshow still hinges on holo clout since her debut partner is rushia, INCLUDING the promotional hype and cringeworthy fail attempts at guilt-tripping kanata.
Where are all the 2view indies who has muh creativity and freedom she's supposed to be giving a platform to shine? You compete on your own merits then talk, what a fucking joke.

>>27839874
>Abe's asking God to go impregnate more women

>>27838654
Even the ones who switched to Kson. She was always saying "'lNDIE PRIDE" last year and we thought she was going to make her own saviourfagging company (Kson Gang).
Instead, joining a company with the worst kinds of people.

>>27840098
>Even the ones who switched to Kson
???
are you talking about the false flaggers?

>>27840338
I'm a Shineitai actually.

>>27840526
Was.

>>27840526
>>27840619
See you at the next stream

>>27837823
Hint
> look at her mod

>>27829752
>>destroy 6 Holos' careers
WHO'S?

>forces best friend into a surprise relocation
WHO

>steals your oshi
WHO IS MY OISHI

>>27829752
What's that yellow thing in the middle of the superfaggot flag?

>>27839905
Kiara.

>>27839484
Fight to win or die in shadow

>>27835400
>was going to the US
>having a boyfriend stopped this
Wow the US is more based than I thought, fuck thots.

>>27839937
The VShojo girls collab and support indies very often tho.

>>27841284
Really? I thought they only supported large indies though

>>27829752
>not using the pride flag with ukraine colors

>>27841284
Maybe for twitch culture since it's more common that community are trained to watch (Group) adjacent streamers, and that's if they are a frequent appearance. So in that case how often is often and what kind of support? I see this claim alot but how useful is it to indies who are not already of a certain size i.e the fish themed one?
Youtube collab metrics have never been good for the smaller party even if a holo does it. But I digress since people are shallow and charity is charity even if it does nothing for the cause.

>>27832070
>I'm actually curious about her plans for VShojoJP
She basically already put her cards on the table with the Q&A stream

Kill idol-style management
Give talents ownership of their characters and content

She probably could've started her own agency with this ethic, but it's easier to get a foothold in the industry by headlining a new branch for an existing agency.

Kson needs drama to thrive. Her time as coco is when she was most chaotic and had hololive as support. The past year as indie shes done nothing special or memorable. Its only when her year restrictions are lifted that she blitzed to the most conversational group to join. Add in her reaction to being called fat and kanatas moving out and shes gets to be an attention whore.
There is no great plan here, she just wants the spotlight and went for the easiest way to get it. Soon as current drama chills she'll act up again since she doesnt have a leash.

>>27829752
>hurr durr le based
Nah she is just a greedy whore.

>>27843579
Yeah I'm beginning to see this pattern too, just wish she'd stir drama elsewhere but I guess you start with the lowest hanging fruit.

>>27843214
>give ownership of characters to talent
Big sign she's salty she couldn't take the dragon with her. She would of never designed coco herself. Most big name artists aren't going to make an avatar for every random indie. Also pretty scumbag to join for a year or so to get character rights and then bail.
Shes delusional if she thinks she can make any company give up rights to the characters they create for use.

>>27843987
>>27843579
Get a better script

>>27843579
> She thrive from Asacoco 1.0 and Reddit Meme Review.
> No drama No yab
> She was canned from Taiwan drama

This faggot spread nonsense now

>>27844094
She worked her ass of AsaCoco and even gave them EN exposure (and eventually EN), so it's understandable.

>>27839937
Is that why Kanata is moving out?

>>27844144
Truth hurts. Shes a drama queen and is forgettable if shes not causing it. Just gotta look through her time as coco to the previous years as indie to recent happenings to confirm it.

>>27844094
> This newfags doesn't HoloForce can asked what they want to Papa.
> Kson ask Dragon Yaguza

>>27844504
EN was happening regardless of her. The market was there and cover was just a bit slow to move in since they went for china first. She had nothing to do with it happening.

>>27844587
> The one who keep menhara girls stable behind the scene.
> Everyone say Coco support them all time.
> Dramaqueen


Lmao wwwwww

>>27844742
> Keep changing history

Watch Asacoco retard

>>27842599
>So in that case how often is often and what kind of support?
Pretty often, though with how big VShojo's gotten, a lot of them are much busier than they used to be and collabs in general are a bit harder to come by.
Zen has been on a collab spree recently and most of it is indies.

But they're all embedded in the Western community and at least half of them are vtuber addicts, Mouse especially. She hasn't done it in a while but she used to semi-regularly do "deep dives" where she'd showcase a bunch of small vtubers to put eyes on them.
When she finds someone she likes, she'll push them to her audience. LordAethelstan's entire career and FalseEyeD's increased momentum late last year are the results of this.

Some larger indies like Snuffy, Haruka and Layna are basically honorary members, and from them VShojo's audience can find smaller indies that they frequently collab with (Haruka, in particular, will collab with just about anyone).
Between all of this and raiding into other streams, VShojo really doesn't sequester themselves like Hololive does (and Niji, though to a lesser degree).

The Twitch scene is basically a big pipeline with each streamer being a joint directing the audience flow.
Example: my first Twitch vtuber was Nyanners and in just over a year and a half I've put 65 vtubers in my follow list.

>>27844503
>Reddit is known for drama.
>China fall out was massive drama that everyone remembers
Proof right in front if you. She needs a shitshow to spotlight or shes forgetable. No one knows of anything grear she did the past year cause no forced drama.
Even her supporting rushia was drama related. Shes nothing without a shitshow to elevate.

>>27844532
Nope, it's all coincidence, can't be reality that she's moving out because of "creative differences" with kson. Definitely the same could be said that every holos are also moving one after another after rushia yab is because rental suddenly became cheaper elsewhere. Nobody did anything wrong in my perfect world.

>>27842599
They even give money for charity to Rise above disorder organization.

>>27844942
Proof right in front me is you are retard faggot and idiot piece of shit who think szhizo in your head can make Holobronies attacking Kson.

Piece of shit like should rot in hell

>>27844504
>gave us en
that stupid bitch. thanks to her this shithole of a board got created and a bunch of retarded subhumans discovered vtubers

>>27844942
I hate Vshitjo but you just made me want support them because pieces of shit like you faggot.

I am KFP

>>27830237
Echo did nothing wrong. hell, Taffy has been temporarily banned on Bilibili four different times for violating zhang content policy and just streamed on Youtube during them despite the site being blocked by the great firewall.

>>27844841
>Pretty often, though with how big VShojo's gotten, a lot of them are much busier than they used to be and collabs in general are a bit harder to come by.
Same excuse given by hololivers
>But they're all embedded in the Western community and at least half of them are vtuber addicts, Mouse especially. She hasn't done it in a while but she used to semi-regularly do "deep dives" where she'd showcase a bunch of small vtubers to put eyes on them.
This is good.
>LordAethelstan's entire career
..you mean nyanners actual boyfriend?
>Some larger indies like Snuffy, Haruka and Layna are basically honorary members, and from them VShojo's audience can find smaller indies that they frequently collab with (Haruka, in particular, will collab with just about anyone).
Between all of this and raiding into other streams, VShojo really doesn't sequester themselves like Hololive does (and Niji, though to a lesser degree).
Reaching a little too much but I concede to a certain point because that's like saying tamaki and Ui blesses indies credited to hololive collabs when they are powerhouses of their own.
>The Twitch scene is basically a big pipeline with each streamer being a joint directing the audience flow.
Best part of twitch I concur.

All in all thanks for taking the time to reply at least I'd be less biased next time.

>>27845604
>..you mean nyanners actual boyfriend?
Mouse started blowing him up around this time last year. He was seriously at like 50 viewers average and was pulling a cool 1000+ regularly by the time he and Nyan got together, which was sometime in February.

>>27829752
Pls someone add shinzo Abe to the pile in that pic.

>>27838832
YAGOO: what the hell are you talking about?
Kson: You still don't get it. I'm using Vtubing as a business... to END Vtubing as a business! In my new Vtubing, people will yab and rrat for what they BELIEVE! Not for idolshit. Not for unicorns! Not for what they're told is seiso. Every chuuba will be free to stream their own videos!

>>27838832
Okay, prove to me freedom is what its all about and say israel should stop annexing Palestinian lands. That phrase isnt against any tos.

>>27841284
They only care about the orbiters who can't even join the company officially.

Snuffy orbited vshitshow 24/7, applied late to an audition with approval and was still told they weren't good enough to join the melody clique.

All the indies kson did stuff with before no longer matter. She will Collab with vshitshow orbiters and anitubers like everyone else.

Actions always have consequences. But kson went ahead and sold out to vshitshow, roped cat Michael into it and forced her own room mate out because she's rather do business with ntanners and veibae

>>27839905
Ayame

>>27848278
This fucker lie every word he wrote
You are not Kson

>>27844620
We're reaching levels of ESL that shouldn't be possible.

>>27830237
>At least 4 of the chinks were either actively involved in or encouraging the chink raid.
You keep saying this, but I've yet to see any actual evidence.

I dunno who I hate more, the rabid antis shitting up the board or the people who seem to think she's some v-tubing Jesus.

>>27850884
At least antis are honest about who they hate and will give you reasons why they hate them.

They aren't delusional like the simps who pretend their oshi is perfect and flawless. I'd rather trust a cynical pessimist instead of someone who ignores their oshi's flaws.

I still remember Civia, my baby... Coco took her away from me and I will never forgive her for that.

>>27838832
Who is Raiden?

>>27839905
>>27841178
>the true hero is also the true idol to raise from the ashes
K-kind of kino, if you ask me.

>>27832651
>thinking taiwan is safe
bro turn on a TV once and a while. china is going to do a Hong Kong 2.0 any day now

>>27851506

I heard some people here say that Coco took part in the Myth auditions and helped pick the girls. Is this true?

>>27845604
>you mean nyanners actual boyfriend?
He became Nyanners boyfriend because of Ironmouse.

>>27844503
>Asacoco 1.0
>No drama No yab
Anon, she literally had to apologize for the Kanata hanging
>webm related
and it caused the whole company to go from
>do what you want with regards to content, check with us if you are unsure
to
>must vet with management before doing

>>27839287
>She wants to destroy vtubing as it currently exists so that only talents stand at the top and companies exist only to help the talents.
That sounds like socialism for vtubers. The workers (the vtubers in this case) owning the means of productions and companies being there to help accommodate their efforts instead of ruling with an iron fist. I agree that's the way vtubing should go. Even without considering Kson, it's evident that this is the direction vtubing is headed. Not only are indies getting more popular and the big two stagnating, but a lot of companies are giving rights to the vtuber character and model to their actors. The Nijisanji and Hololive model is slowly but surely becoming outdated.

https://youtu.be/rbeMxKnrF6s

Here's Iron Mouse's and Connor's interesting discussion on "content creation".

>>27853324
> this retard doesn't know about Asacoco 1.0 and 2.0
> not even drama just schizo in gere whinning and stupid manager blame Coco.
> this fucktard can't seperate drama or manager came to attack Coco even no one care


Retard piece of shit
Lair again

>>27853324
No one care, no drama
Only schizo and manager care.
If manager not punnish Coco that day = no one care.

Source Coco Twitter

>>27852190
Yes , at least she talked with Myth and gave opinion to Yagoo about EN but not final decision.

Omega did paper work and legalization.

>>27853324
Kson anti chama don't change history pls
We live here when this happend

>>27856038

>Source

>>27856082
> Kiara

Except you believe Omega's grape review that Omega create HoloMyth.

But Omega chose everyone who hate him, talked shit abou him and split to him for what?

>>27856082
> from talents's Pov, Coco really help them before they debut. Kiara confirm that they talked a lot many time.

> from corporation's Pov, Omega has respondsibility with legal and contact with main branch.

>>27856214
This and that may be reason Irys gas no new outfit because Hope is Omega's project.

>>27856082
Watch Coco's minecraft stream which built Yagoo's status idiot

>>27856281
No that's just Redjuice being a massive faggot. Using him as a designer was a huge mistake.

>>27856378
May be but Irys talks about manager's respond make her feel despair. Something happen but we don't know

>>27829752
if you think peak selfishness is based then i guess she is? her own motto after all is "just do whatever you want", even at the expense of others. you can tell she's american.

>>27844742
Holy newfaggotory, Coco was the one who pushed Yagoo to create EN gen.

>>27856572
if you check redjuice's twitter they're constantly accepting work or getting involved in projects with other companies. at this point I'm convinced the delay is all the fault of that jackass

>>27851599
in china's last military conflict they lost a simple land invasion against a bunch of vietnamese peasants while the actual vietnamese army was busy fucking cambodia up the ass, by having its own soldiers starve to death due to their own supply inadequacies

i'd love to see them even try.

>>27857729
The Taiwanese also lost the Vietnam war since they were supporting the Americans. Also you forgot to mention the part where the Vietnamese stopped the Cambodian genocide.

>>27830237
>>27837823
>>27840836
>>27838688
See pic related

>>27839905
Literally >>27841178
I remember coco talking about how kiara disagreed with her and they had a long chat about it all

>>27830237
None of them were, you fell for dramafags that latched onto the coco drama to shit on china
Chinks are beyond annoying, but all of the CN girls were innocent and had their dreams taken away because kson knowingly broke her contract and cover decided to not do anything because of any choice being political fallout

Maybe now more holos can hit 1mil, Well id they stream that is

>>27860367
holy mother of history revision

>>27829752
>>27838832
kson is legit retarded, she's almost 40 years old and is acting like a 19 year old with a bright entertainment career, she is literally going to go through menopause soon

>>27860367
Which part of the contract bars them from talking about Youtube analytics? That's not a political thing. Youtube simply lists Taiwan separately. The biggest irony of it is that before the yab Coco had been doing her mandarin reps because she really wanted to interact with her large number of Chinese fans. Chinese fans that can't legally watch her Youtube stream because of the great firewall. Where do those Chinese fans VPN to bypass it? Taiwan.

>>27860367
If she broke her contract which she didn't, they would have thrown her out like they did to Rushia when she violated the NDA.

>>27860656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KqXK9bCM8w
Haachama said that coco was attempting to save her from the backlash some chinese translator fanbases were bringing up, kson knew that it was a political issue and tried to make it seem like a non issue by showing the analytics herself
After covercorps mandatory hiatus whenever there is an PR issues with the talent, haachama was not receiving any hate because chinks knew it was an accident, however, kson intentionally did this knowing it was a political issue

>>27860840
It was always a rule, they reason why rushia was terminated is exactly what management said going forward in their press release, that they will be holding the talents to higher standards after reiterating the stipulations of their contracts
See >>27860863 for why she broke contract

>>27860863
You're using Otakmori for this? The most hated clipper that tends to make shit up for views?

>>27860863
You really just linked OtakMori to try to prove your point? A clickbaiting faggot who regularly mistranslates shit for views. You automatically lose this debate and your next 10.

>>27860863
>can;t understand japanese
>links Otakmori mistranslated clip
Holy shit, it gets better and better.

Kson should collab with haachama

>>27860863
>kson knew that it was a political issue and tried to make it seem like a non issue by showing the analytics herself
That would be quite ironic (and sad) if true. So much misfortune over quid pro quo.

>>27843214
>give talents ownership
Does making it through the application mean that you deserve to be given the IP that you didn’t do anything to create? This seems kinda silly unless it’s “vtuber designed/commissioned herself” and moved to a new company but that just goes against some of the fun of vtuber culture and screams used goods. We need gatekeeping.

>>27860863
>Source my ass i mean. OtakMori which is no different than my ass.

>>27860572
Kson just turned 30 lmao even if she was 40 id still fuck that tight jap cunt

>>27829752
>My corporate overlords did nothing wrong it's all Kson!

Holo drones are something else.

>>27861482
The whole idea is retarded. If the Vtuber created the character and commissioned the model and rigging themselves, then the company isn't GIVING them anything they didn't already own. If the company IS doing all the character creation work and then handing rights over then you end up in a situation like Cyberlive where someone just poaches your talents and they take their(your) models with them. Nobody with half a brain actually believes this shit. It's just a marketing slogan for the advertising team to push and the shills to shill on 4chan.

>>27860367
Fuck you and faggot
Artia deserve everything she got and you change my mind.

I will say again Artia is mastermind who help Artiadiscordfag spam Coco by turn blind eyes to those faggot and said share spam script program is not political.

In Artia case, she is traitor and always be

>>27861786b

Edit : You can't change my mind

>>27858331
> This retard use 4chan post as proof

Anon... go to Bilibili and searching about Civia leaks voicepack stream. They exist because Civia's mod repost it and you should.....

> look at comment section
> BINGO

>>27861608
>just turned 30
She's 34 anon...

Kson is a fat bitch
only edgelords watch vshojo

>>27862033
Nigger, chinks also claimed Aqua's For the Win song was encouraging them to wheelbarrow Coco

>>27862107
4chan is 18+ Anon

>>27861608
lmao non-Asians continue to be bamboozled by Asian women ages

if she wasn't doing some retarded vtubing shit, she'd be in housewife and MILF JAVs right now.

>>27862294
Really? Who was use Aqua's For the win song encourage spammers in the first place.

I will told you
> Civia did it and encourage them.
> Artia is retard mastermind.
> Civia is skillful mastermind

You can check this fact in Bilibili

>>27862503
Meds

>>27862503
Your English grammar is terrible

>>27862072
I was close id still smash.

>>27862575
Just check it in Bilibili side
It's serious

>>27862620
Sorry my bad

>>27862957
The issue is that Bilibili cannot be trusted. Any evidence there could be faked and intended to slander someone who was innocent because they hate them for not taking part. It COULD be true, but it could also be a lie. And there is no way for us to know for sure which it is. So it doesn't actually answer the question definitively.

>>27861482
All the VShojo girls created their own models.

>>27829752
Inferior product

>>27832936
They wont because they werent heavy hitters in Hololive except Superchats. Why would they get popular now by joining an inferior branch when they already debuted as an individual and we already know their CCV dropped tremendously. I don’t know why people think Holofans should be scared when theres nothing to be scared of.