/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>28062350
sexual tension?

>>28062350
>always
Watch streams.

>>28062350
>覇王色の覇気

>>28062350
Yeah. You can clearly tell Iofi was under so much pressure during the 6 hour collab with Sora.

>>28062398
>>28062516
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

>>28062350
Usually just whoever collabs with her doesn't want to make her mad because, you know, she's Tokino fucking Sora.

>>28062714
except for IRyS

>>28062350
It's like having dinner with your boss. They always say that it just some casual outing, but you know that a single wrong move and you can kiss your career goodbye.

A single word from Sora and your oshi's head will go flying.

>>28062350
Sora literally created Hololive and the whole idol culture was started by her.

>>28062792
Or Lofi. Or Anya. Let's just say that it's the JP branch girls who have tensions when they even bother to collab with her. Oh and then there's AZKi. But always tensions, always.

>>28063733
B-but idol culture bad...

>>28063733
>and the whole idol culture was started by her

>>28064000
I thought Amelia Watson invented Idol Culture. And Tokino Sora.

>>28064000
I think he's right though, to an extent

>>28062350
IRyS Iofi and Pekora don't give a fuck about that daisenpai relationship. They know full well that Sora also wants to be part of the holobox as a member and not as some deity or whatever.

>>28063880
SEXUAL TENSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>28062350
Everyone gets sexually tense around Sora
Girl is hot as the sun goddess she is

>>28062350
you should stop watching iwara
It affects too much

>>28062350
They know I'll end them if they yab while streaming with my wife

>>28063733
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IDOL CULTURE BAD

>>28062350
Her enormous penis makes the other girls nervous

>>28062350
Oldfags are entitled. Sorafags are oldfags.

Sora has highest status in Hololive. You can imagine how entitled Sorafags are.

>>28064533
> Pekora don't give a fuck about that daisenpai relationship.
In minecraft fight club, Pekora was owning everyone but mysteriously losing to Sora. I wonder why.

>>28066067
so they're based

>>28066309
I wouldn't called privileged people based. If your oshi has some sort of status, it's easy for you act high and mighty.

You can only be based if you go against the world.

>>28066158
And in Clubhouse 51games Pekora asked Sora to fight her fairly in a boxes game, nearly winning the round https://youtu.be/auajGt3I-rA at 12:11. Your point?

>>28066546
Kson is based then for joining vshojo?

>>28062350
The purity aspect, you'd be nervous around her too

Sora is true idol so making crass jokes around her feels wrong.

>>28066703
First, she broke her promise for not joining company. Second, she claimed Vshojo is not a company and she is still indie.

The wrongs outweighted the basedness, so she is not based. Similarly, pedo also goes against the world. In order to be based, one must not be universally wrong, I think.

>>28062350
She's the daisenpai, and the Japanese are autistic as fuck about that.

>>28066546
soratomo is one of the most chill fanbase tho

>>28062350
They're unsure how far they can drag her into the yabai before it's too much and get corpo/fan backlash so they always wait for her to instigate. Unfortunately Sora is a 100% power bottom that likes 10 inches in the pooper so everyone in the collab is left unsatisfied. .

>>28066622
I said Pekora mysteriously lost to Sora after owning everyone. You showed me a clip of Sora winning against Pekora.

What do you mean?

Pekora can't even hold against Suisei
on a staredown, much less against Sora.

>>28062350
>Collabs with Sora always feel like there's some tension in the air why is that? she's a nice girl
He doesn't know...

>>28066158
Sora won against Pekora and Lamy too

>>28067024
Not sure how Soratomo acts in vt, but JP Sorafags are fucking proud of Sora. And have very low tolerance for any form of disrespect.

This is why other JPs feel tense towards Sora. From what I've heard.

If Sora was your senpai would you let her aggressively rape you

>>28067216
But the skill difference is great between Pekora and Sora, don't you think so?

>>28067285
Can't imagine Sora with Miko vibe

>>28067285
Sora is not for lewdness

>>28067293
The fuck do you mean? It’s fucking Minecraft. You only need to mash a single button.

>>28067220
>From what I've heard.
so you know nothing

>>28067665
How do you explain some Holos constantly winning in overwhelming fashion?

Also, pretty sure it's not mashing a single button. Unless you want to stand still and don't want to get out of lava.

She probably has a very different contract than other chubas

>>28067796
Please dissect the reasons for tense air for us then.

>>28067921
Extremely likely.

>>28067285
It wouldn’t by rape as I would be more than willing.w

Same reason why you can't racist banter with Prince Williams or Charles; even if they want to there's a lurking institution watching your every move. It's like going on a date with a high profile woman and their bodyguards are at the table next to you.

>>28063733
>whole idol culture was started by her
what a fucking retard

>>28067422
If Sora didn't want to be lewded she wouldn't dance all seductively and shit.

>>28062350
It's Japanese daisenpai autism, that's why Iofi and IRyS can talk to her normally

>>28068327

>>28068240
Sora did not start the idol culture but it's because of her that Hololive went the idol route

>>28062350
Sora is like the Emperor of Mankind. She doesn't want to be worshiped as a God but everyone still does. Such is Idol Culture.

>>28068240
he means in Hololive, anon

>>28062350
She is Yagoo's daughter. Need to be careful how you act around her.

>>28068772
Makes sense. Amelia Watson invented idol culture as a whole, and Sora brought it in hololive.

>>28068381
well that autism is kinda cute not going to lie

>>28068953
Amelia brought gosling culture, which is way worse than idol culture.

>>28067921
This. The way A-chan talked about their roles in the office suggests that she's not just a talent but has managerial powers.

>>28062350
she own shares in Cover, so she's considered an executive, an actual boss

>>28068496
Hololive went the idol route when Gen 3 debuted and showed there was more money in not collabing with men.

>>28062350
the tension you're feeling is from the fact that you've not been taking your anti-rrat meds

>>28069494 (me)
Guess I should say the more hardcore idol route of pandering to lonely virgins.

SEX
SEX
SEXSEX
SEXSEXSEXSEX
SEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

>>28069372
rrat or real?

>>28069777
Retard. Go back. You stick out like a sore thumb.

>>28062350
Please sora collab with haachama in minecraft.

>>28062792
>Except for Irys
Maybe that's why she was banished to the shadowrealm

>>28069494
ah the usual retard who actually believe no male allowed shit, why don't you just kys, Sora already collabed with male since back then, they basically just make hololive production officially went idol route in 2019, before that they just don't really think too much about it and just trying to survive and only Sora who is doing idol thing back then and after hololive officially going idol route the other start making songs and take lesson and then holofes 1

ITT: social autists discussing about reading the atmosphere

>>28070916
You are an actual fucking retard who didn’t even read what I fuck wrote.

>>28069352
the fact that A-chan who was just Sora friend before is now one of upper management and even quite special compared to other staffs, should make it obvious

>>28070953
Yeah, SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

>>28070916
Point out where I said Sora hasn’t collabed with males you drooling retard.

>>28070916
Kys dumb ESL nigger

>>28062350
Miko is always good with her
Also this Polka/Kanata was fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH8xIjWDD34

>>28071488
???
>Hololive went idol route for money by not collabing with male
>they let Sora the idol to collab with male
retard

>>28063884
>>28064000
>>28065743
>>28068240
Idol culture, not unicorn culture. These two are different things.

>>28077221
I said they went hardcore idol route when they realised they could get more money for not interacting with men after Gen 3, I never said anywhere that they aren’t allowed to do it, or that Sora has never done it, Maybe learn to actually comprehend the English you read before getting upset about it you retarded ESL.

>>28062350
Japanese concepts of seniority. If someone has worked there longer, even if you are both wagies, they are to be respected. But usually this applies to, like, a 20 year old intern at Jap Corp (TM) and his 60 year old immediate department senpai or some shit like that.

Sora is younger than most holos so she is a superior, but it is also awkward because she is not a superior.

>>28079849
> Sora is younger than most holos so she is a superior
She is a hag though.

>>28080682
A young hag.

>>28079747
>I said they went hardcore idol route when they realised they could get more money for not interacting with men after Gen 3
>b-but that doesn't mean they aren't allowed to collab with male
pick one retard, they pander to gachikoi by not allowing them to interact with male or not

>>28067422
As a 35p(45p), I beg to differ.
Her models used in iwara are one of, if not the hottest ones on the site.

>>28080982
It’s the same fucking think you absolute retard, there is no company mandate that they can’t collab with males, the talent decides what they want to do and following the example of Gen 3 later gens realise that they are better off not doing it, with Towa being the only notable exception. Take her out and you could probably count on one hand the amount of times anyway from Gen 3 onwards had collabed with a man, and even the likes of Ayame and Aqua who had done it beforehand went cold turkey. Now take your ESL ass and go jump off a fucking bridge.

>>28080682
Sora is young, retard.

>>28062350
I'VE BEEN WARNING YOU FOR MONTHS.
My rrat is that Sora is NOT a good person and probably evil to her core, but nobody sees it.

>>28082132
Nigger take a minute and think about her tastes in anime a video games. That aside so your reps, her being young is a larp.

>>28081611
>same thing
no it's not, you said "Hololive" means the company, idol =/= GFE retard, the talent decide what kind of audience they are going to pander but Hololive being idol group is something the company decide, Fubuki,Marine,Subaru etc have said they were surprised when they told they are now "idol" and the company never have "no male" rule so it's not "Hololive went hardcore idol route", now you can get some rope and neck yourself retard

Seniority autism.

>>28082264
>Dumb ESL faggot can’t even comprehend English yet tries to shit up the board in English
Many such cases.

>>28068196
Quite probably.
Sora's signed up to Victor Entertainment as her record label (music branch of JVC). It wouldn't do if she were to act in shamfur dishpray that would bring dishonoraburu on the brand that gave a vtuber a chance.
The holos that collab with her know and are mindful of that.

>>28073915
Polka is great, and Polka understood that Sora wants to be included but firstly everyone's too timid to ask her and Sora herself doesn't want to impose her will on others by asking them and subjecting them to being timid in that weird Japanese power dynamic way. Sora's said as much when asked as she knows the pressure put on any potential collab mate and yet she still yearns to be included.
As a Soratomo I'm so glad Polka, who's old hat at this, helped break this through conundrum and got Sora to participate in that spontaneous minecraft End adventure way back that helped to break a lot of ice.

>>28082225
Tbf Sora is baby

>>28082225
Sora might be a hag outside but she's a baby at heart

No one wants to deal with her retarded fans' shitfits.

>>28067422
VTubers and Idols share a common fate.
They're made for sex. They'll be sexualized, they'll be lewded, they just cannot refute that 3/4rd of their fans want to fuck them until they pass out.
What happens when a VTuber is an idol?
Quadruple the sex. Cum volcano.
Purityfags get out.

>>28084663
This. I'm a Soratomo and I agree.

>>28082225
Dumbass actually check the JP doxxfags. The reasoning is rrat level. Also THINK. when Cover was a much smaller company five years ago, do you think they’d hire a cake or hag for a tech demo? Or convince a random JK for less than half the price? Also remember that Kizuna Ai and other early vtubers are barely entering cakehood this year. There’s a good chance that Sora is what she says she is. I actually think she might be a bit older but never older than Kotone or Fuji Aoi who are early cakes.

>when Cover was a much smaller company five years ago, do you think they’d hire a cake or hag
Yes.

>>28062350
Her position and autism desu. It's really hard to land a joke on sora since her head is half above the cloud whenever she is interacting with someone. She is autistic like that purisu andastando

>>28082225
At least do your fucking rep nigger or come up with a new one. That hag doxx is so 2018
>>28085280
Stop replying to retards anon. You wasting your time

>>28085780
>YabaiRyS: can I drink you?
>Sorautismo: huh, what?!
>Yab: you know, the the whole soda meme?
>S: oh, y-yeah, sorry thought you meant something else
IRyS straight up said she wanted to nuzzle her face into Sora's crotch and slurp out that sweet pussy juice and that's exactly how Sora took its meaning.
She's not all clueless all the time.

>>28086105
>she wanted to nuzzle her face into Sora's crotch and slurp out that sweet pussy juice
She isn't the only one.

There is genuinely not a single VTuber more uninteresting than Sora.

Her entire claim to fame is longevity amidst a sea of vastly more interesting talent, and it shows in her numbers and overall engagement.

She is mediocre in just about every regard. She doesn't even have the wherewithal to be offensively bad at anything. It's so heinously boring.

>>28086534
>reddit spacing
Go back

>>28086651
>SEA
Go back

>>28086888
Yikes

>>28086534
>OH NOES I NEED MUH CLIPPABLE MOMENTS ZOMG
reddit zoomer eop go watch vshojo

>>28062350
Sora is a lovecraftian abomination IRL please understand

>>28086105
She's just like me

>>28062350
Maybe Sora's a complete bitch behind the scenes. How would you know otherwise? Maybe she's constantly flexing her seniority and beating the others into submission.

>>28087979
Sora gave Laplus a chocolate when they gathered together to collab on Hololive main channel

>>28062350
You can't disrespect her or the schizos will go nuts. Even people in /hlgg/ were getting pissed that Bae was horsing around with Sora and not showing her the proper respect.

>>28088228
>Sora's chocolate
>Laplus accepts chocolate
>Sora is currently taming and training her new idol before she get whorified like everyone else.

>>28086534
better make some rrat like how Sora probably a bully IRL than spouting your zoomer opinion that not only it has nothing to do with the thread also no one asked
or even better just kys

>>28088464
She's not even interesting enough to be a bully. Just plain all the way down. Plain and basic.

>>28088228
she gave it to everyone

>>28088596
>She's not even interesting enough to be a bully
Plainly false, I want to bully her with my erection.

>>28088602
Out of obligation, not love.

>>28088642
>Plainly
You're starting to get it.

>>28088704
I will make her interesting by making her pregnant. That way she will have mood swings on stream

>>28062350
Watch MoonaxSora Minecraft adventures.
Oryginal stream is gone, wtf?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtG5yZz-hr0

>>28068932
people still believe this?
this was disproven around a year ago

>>28089776
Noone believes she's his actual daughter, dumb faggot, but metaphorically/symbolically, since she is the foundation of what has now become Hololive, she is not just Yagoo's, but Cover's daughter. It doesn't matter if other members outshine her, she is effectively the boss. Sora, along with the rest of Gen 0 (also Fubuki) are the top dogs, and Sora is the absolute top in power. This is why other members are generally cautious around her, on top of her seiso/airhead persona she has to maintain.
>t. reverent 35p

She's princess Micky Mouse that has to be perfect and unoffending to everyone. Can't be funny like war criminal Pekora, can't be sexy like horny Marine, can't be rude or loud or bold or strong. Has to be put in a perfect little box of perfection that just makes her bland.

>>28091251
How long would Miko last if that happened?

>>28091258
She can't be (and thus isn't) anything. No wonder SEA is so fixated on her since she represents the "mandatory respect" you "should" get for being the oldest at something even when you do nothing to deserve or warrant it.

>>28091811
Sora would remove Miko's "rape other Holomems with no consequences" privilege, and she'd go crazy from horniness within a month

>>28082803
Polka (in her PL) befriended Sora when she was struggling early on. These two need to collab more.

>>28091251
I like this based on the scenario of 'pissing off Sora is crossing the line' anyone got anymore?

>>28091251
Aren't Migu and Suisui also 0G?

>>28062350
the gen0 collab last year was kino, they really need to do this more often

>>28084723
This guy gets it.

>>28095020
>Reading comprehension

>>28069494
>gen 3
>pekora, rushia, noel, flare, marine
>more idolish than sora, subaru, aki

>>28095020
>muh zero gen
Look at when each of the members of this null gen joined, then you'll understand what the real procession of seniority is.

>>28073915
>Also this Polka/Kanata was fun
Also their last collab, where Polka took Sora to fight ring to beat up Pekora, Lamy, and Polka herself.

>>28099331
It's kind of weird to see how history gets rewritten as time goes on.

>>28087979
H-hot

>>28086534
Not really, she has a nice singing voice.
And in some cases more than just nice (among the best I'd say)
And streams in which she plays keyboard are so good
She's a good musician I think
People find her boring but I love the calm vibe

>>28085780
Yeah the "so yo're the enemy" wasn't her being cool, just autistic
But I find that so cute for some reason

>>28062350
I made a list because I was curious.
HOLO SENIORITY FROM TOP BITCH TO BOTTOM BITCH ACCORDING TO DEBUT DATE:
>2017
7th September – Tokino Sora
>2018
4th March – Roboco-san
22nd March – [Hoshimachi Suisex] – Independent
13th May – Yozora Mel (codename: Project SEX)
1st June – Shirakami Fubuki, Natsuiro Matsuri, Aki Rosenthal
2nd June – Akai Haato
3rd June [EXPUNGED FROM RECORD]
1st August – Sakura Miko
8th August – Minato Aqua
17th August – Murasaki Shion
3rd September – Nakiri Ayame
5th September – Yuzuki Choco
17th September – Oozora Subaru
[15th November – AZKi] – INoNaKa Music
7th December – Ookami Mio [+Shirakami Fubuki]
>2019
6th April – Nekomata Okayu
7th April – Inugami Korone – [on Subaru’s channel]
13th April – Inugami Korone [own channel]
[19th May – Hoshimachi Suipiss] - INoNaKa Music
17th July – Usada Pekora
18th July – [EXPUNGED FROM RECORD]
7th August – Shiranui Flare
8th August – Shirogane Noel
11th August – Houshou Marine
[28th September – Yogurt]
[1st November – Civia]
1st December – Hardyoumakeme Suisex
27th December – Amane Kanata
[28th December – Kiryu Coco]
29th December – Tsunomaki Watame
>2020
3rd January – Tokoyami Towel
4th January – Himemori Lunaaa
[30th January – Spade Echo]
[6th March] – Doris (who the fuck?!)]
[7th April – Rosalyn]
10th April – Ayunda Risu
[11th April – Artia]
11th April – Moona Hoshinova
12th April – Airani Iofifteen (could’ve sworn it was “Iofiteen”)
12th August – Yukihana Lamy
13th August – Momozu Nene
14th August – Shishiro Botan
15th August – [Mano Aloe]
16th August – Omaru Polka
12th September – More Calligraphy, Takanashi Kiara
13th September – Ninomae Ina’nis, Amelia Watson, Gar Goorag
4th December – Kureiji Ollie
5th December – Anya Melfissa
6th December – Pavolia Reine
>2021
11th July – IRyS
23rd August – {Tsukumo Sana}, Ceres Fauna, Ouro Kronii, Nanashi Mumei, Hakos Baelz
26th November – Yamada
27th November – Takane Lui
28th November – Hakui Koyori
29th November – Sakamata Stinky
30th November – Kazama Iroha
>2022
25th March – Indo cat Fauna
26th March – The polish penguin
27th March – blue water one they’re all autisic about now

>>28082225
Miko doesn't rape hags

>>28103130
I feel like she isn't chatty enough during gaming streams but my sample size isnt particularly large. The rest of the girls are on the other side of the spectrum, so its no surprise some people find her boring.

>>28103484
Can we delete 2020 please

>>28103624
Delete Botan and Polka and Twap?

>>28103484
>3rd June [EXPUNGED FROM RECORD]
>18th July – [EXPUNGED FROM RECORD]
kurisu . . miguel gato . .

>>28106158
Ok just september

Sora..

>>28091251
>t. reverent 35p
Didn't Miko say to Sora she wasn't a proper idol because she collabed with men?

>>28091843
except she did everything to deserve it...

>>28091258
I get the feeling that yes, there is that external pressure but also that she generally trends that way regardless so It's not merely an act.

>>28103484
As much as they always point to this for seniority, the reality is often different. Obviously they can't talk about real age or previous lives in character, but those things definitely come into play when they are interacting.

This is also why Sora feels isolated within Hololive.
She is the image and symbol of the hololive.
There are many people older than Sola in terms of actual age, but in Japan, the longer you have been affiliated with a company, the more consideration you need to give it.
It is like an ordinary employee playing with a managerial boss, and of course there is a limit to how much you can treat her like a friend.
The reason she has so many friends outside of Hololive is because it is difficult for members of the same company to treat each other as equals.

>>28062714
What's it matter who she is?

>>28111896
That's most obvious with Haachama, who is younger than the rest bar Shion. In fact isn't that why Haato became Haachama in the first place?
>Haato-senpai
becomes just
>Haachama
and sidesteps all of that confusing stuff.
There's also the tendency of some of the older (age) holos referring to others, who "outrank" them on the holo seniority scale, "___-chan".
So it does come through from time to time.

>>28103484
>2017
>7th September – Tokino Sora
>alone
Wait, does it mean she technically solo carried Cover when they're still 2view

>>28115067
Conversely, it's not uncommon that someone with more seniority calls Botan "senpai" on accident.
The other example that comes to mind is Polka. Her PL debut was almost the same time as Roboco, which would put her above everyone but Sora and Roboco. And while she is fine playing the part of kouhai in Hololive, she isn't afraid to pull the seniority card when necessary, like in the stream >>28073915 mentioned, or in the (no longer available) post-School of Lock radio talk with Fubuki.

I'd collab with Sora senpai...

>>28115933
Exactly

>>28115933
>Wait, does it mean she technically solo carried Cover when they're still 2view
Did you really only just comprehend this? Now does it all make sense?
Because this foolish girl persevered with her silly dream for nigh on a year we have the hololive of today. You can bet that if she'd given up within the first 6-8 months of uncertainty then Roboco alone, who was essentially a leftover from a cancelled cover project, could not have carried the brand until Gen1 auditions became a viability and that whatever hololive would've become it's unlikely it'd resemble what it is now. It's possible that Cover would've abandoned its vtuber activities entirely for lack of a personality and product with enough drive to see things through.
Mind you she got lucky with the Christmas Miracle, but if she'd given up early because the whole endeavor seemed ridiculous and the doubt got to her then she'd not have been in the position to benefit from Siro's recommendation in the first place.
Being there is required for success and luck as much as hard work.

>>28117725
>Being there is required for success
EN sisters, not like this...

>>28115933
No, not technically, she literally carried Holo for a while, and that's the reason she is respected. I would've written more, but >>28117725 pretty much covered everything.
Therefore, instead, I will declare one thing: Sora is sex.

>>28119839
But she's so fuckin' plain...

for me, it's Caro Mio ben
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE6_m7mXy1M&ab_channel=ImcaCh.%E6%AB%BB%E4%BA%95%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A0%E3%82%AB

>>28117725
>if she'd given up early because the whole endeavor seemed ridiculous and the doubt got to her
Given the circumstances at that time, it was stupid to keep going. She thought of given up but after receiving heartwarming messages from early Soratomos, she decided to keep pushing.

>>28116705
>or in the (no longer available) post-School of Lock radio talk with Fubuki.
QRD of what you can remember happening during this stream?

>>28091811
That's a two-finger accident.

>>28123157
They were just kind of talking about their vtubing activities and such, but at one point Polka started grilling Fubuki on some of her activities. She asked her why she hasn't been doing a lot of idol stuff in general, why it has been so long since her last 3D live, why she did a normal stream instead of a project or a live for her anniversary, why she only has two original songs after four years of activities, why there was a two year gap between her songs, that kind of stuff. None of it was said in a condescending or demeaning way, and there were no hard feelings or anything after, but it was a conversation you would never expect to hear from a junior. I would hazard a guess that Polka figured that they were import questions to think about, but since Fubuki's only real seniors are Sora and Roboco, that no one else would actually feel like they could ask them of her.

>>28062350
She is the top senpai. The dai senpai. She is also more wholesome than most of Hololive combined. The rest of them feel tense that they might accidentally offend a superior (as in work not as talent)

>>28103484
Miko technically debuted in December 2018 with her weird show, making her the second oldest

>>28124424
Based clown doing the hard talking.

>>28124424
I love her

>>28124718
Please read both posts carefully

>>28069372
Probably not shares in cover, but she did create Hololive and thus is the boss of Hololive

>>28120950
Plain girls are the best and the sexiest

>>28124424
honestly, this is what the EN branch needs
someone to push the others in the right direction

>>28116705
This desu, Botan and Polka are a pair that individually had lot of presence on internet, Botan tried vtubing first in 2018 and made her main v channel in 2019 however her record and E goes easily back 10-11yrs but her E YT channel dates back to 2014.

Funnily enough Polka vtubing Ch dates back to the same Yr Botan also first tried which is 2018, however Polka stuck to that channel while Botan barely lasted before making her second channel.

So like there's absolutely no way any of the other girls didn't know who these two where and I wouldn't be surprised, they however so play in the Kouhai part because that's how Holo and JP are structure but both aren't afraid to step out of that, Botan does pmay it more safely tho.

>>28120950
exactly, she's like the Main Heroine of every manga and game

One thing people ofthen forget to mention is that Sora inspired them like greatly. Non of the hologirls joined hololive knowing they'll do idol stuff, not even Sora. Her whole reason was because she like streaming/radio/podcast or the likes. She said herself that it was meant to be some passtime activities that she'd do for 6-8months at most. But things progress differently as she also love singing and the soratomos really pushed her to go into that direction. She followed along as she saw their passion. That is why you can see a lot of fans contributions on her early songs and covers.
She kept on following that path ever since and her "seiso" demeanor just earned her the tittle of The Idol of the Vtubing industry. She never called herself as idol not then not now, people just called her The Idol. But, she always does her best to fullfilled her fans expectations, doing her singing reps, dance, showed up in events, solo carrying the sponsorships, went on collabs with everyone and anyone to promote hololive, do concerts, guesting on other vtuber's program, etc.
She is the core SOVL of hololive, the beacon of cute girl do cute things and doing her very best for her fans. The very person that inspired the other hologirls that jump into this industry either as a side hustle, hobby, or just because, to do their best and follow her footsteps.
She may not be the most successfull, but she certainly is the most inspiring.
>Also
She could have walked out at any point at that time when things got too busy and tiring, leaving yagoo and cover in shambles. But, she chose not to for her fans. Hence why we have the hololive that millions love today

Thank you for coming to my TedTalk and please excuse the ESL

>>28130436
It's okay. My oshi is basically what retarss here would describe as the reverse sora but I know better. Daisenpai gave her a job and for that alone I will be eternally grateful

>>28062350
Sora with black hair would make me instantly cream my pants

>>28132448
I used to think the same but could never find any art.

She hard carried the group and used to stay on the top up until the golden age 2020. Sora also laid all the groundwork for Hololive idol formula. The company and the rest of the group owe her a lot.

>>28132448
Palette swap Mito and Sora.

>>28130436
is Sora blanco the most powerful Sora?

>>28134418
there is one in the MV of her original song "Yumeiro Asterisk" it's very old original song from 4 years ago so it was JK Sora with black hair

>>28138212
Yoruno Sora is the only alt to survive the Purge (2 zatsus remain). Pretty powerful I guess, her voice also makes me cum.

Sora is pure
Sora is cute
Sora is kind
Sora is love
Sora is sex

>>28137300
Mito also makes me cream my pants

>>28067285
Is it really rape if I'm more than okay with it?

>>28062350
Tokino D. Sora

>>28119839
Sora is sex indeed.

She is the only person in the world I would want to get raped by.

>>28117725
Makes me think of the 13 knights or whatever she called the 13 viewers that watched her from the beginning.

>>28062350
Funny because of that, Sora found solace in collabing with non-JP like IRyS, Iofi and Anya. JP should take notes from EN and ID how to interact with their daisenpai.

>>28148143
I personally enjoy their autism

I want Sora to shiko shiko me

>>28148007
did she fuck them?

>>28150618
Yeah and they all me with my alt accounts

>>28150879
I made this post.

>>28148143
Jap soratomo only throw bitchfits at jap holomen.

>>28062350
They act like she’s some goddess when she’s like 40th in popularity in the entire company.

>>28151603
Japanese expect foreigners to not be aware of their social etiquette so they aren't as harsh with ID and EN.

>>28062350
>she's a nice girl
only on camera, obviously. other then that, she`ll remember every single minor thing, and will make sure your career ceases to exist if it puts her off even a bit.
come on op, don`t be so naive.

>>28152775
This. She also forced every member to serve her at night or they'll get sponsors. The reason ayame never stream and yet featured in many sponsor and product collab is because she knows how to please that daisenpai bean

>>28151733
nah, most japanese are actually racist and they are on their territory (japanese company), it's like when a foreigner in japan if they "stand out" people are going to give you a "stare" and they expect you to know and follow their culture and social etiquette

>>28062350
Fuck japan seniority bs for that, btw I really adore her collabs with the other branches. She shines there for me...

>>28151610
popularity means shit when you have authority

Has Sora ever done anything interesting except fall off a chair? Genuine question.

>>28154422
if you think her camera falling down is interesting you're clearly a zoomer and what you find interesting is probably something like overreacting,yelling or being loud on stream, so the answer is no

>>28082225
> be believed that "doxx"
kek, tourists stick out like a sore thumb on this board for some reason

>>28154601
Is that a yes? Feel free to provide examples of anything interesting she's done that don't involve her just existing for the sake of it.

>>28155505
no one's going to spoonfeed your eop faggot ass

Since that thread is clearly not dying anytime soon, check out her collabs with Anya and Iofi, they're fun. Assuming anyone here is interested in watching Sora

>>28155557
I figured people not willing to do anything or try would be the primary fanbase for a vtuber like Sora anyway, so this makes sense.

>>28156282
cope lazy mongoloid

>>28155505
She has real music talent and is a top perfomer on stage for sure but then again if you find her camera falling down is interesting you're definitely a zoomer "haha funny clip,haha lewd jokes,haha react harder streamer"

>>28138212
No, the most powerful Sora is the ultra rare pink one, that's an actual mahou shoujo.
Now lost forever until the time of most need.

>>28152775
Lol, lmao even

>>28161879
well, of course. you HAVE TO jerk her off afterwards, otherwise you can say bye-bye to your position, low-life.

>>28161879
Didn't think Lamy had a livetranslator.

>>28062350
Only a complete retard wouldn't be tense around those in higher positions of your field. They can fuck you up just because they feel like it, and nothing would happen to them.

>>28166430
Lamy has probably the most consistent live translating. Last I checked she had at 2-3 that would trade off if one had to leave.

>>28087979
That would be based as fuck though.
Imagine Marine, Subaru, Korone, all trembling in fear when she walks past them in the hall

>>28163560
Anon I can only get so hard

>>28155505
>>28121490

>>28154422
I personally love when she's singing and playing keyboards, some improvs are TOO GOOD, Her singing voice is much better than her talking voice and she's a decent musician. Unfortunately, there aren't many clips out there, watch the streams

>>28063733
I don't know if it's funny or sad that there are actually Holobronies out there that genuinely believe this.

Sora needs to graduate

>>28062350
it's difficult to make conversation with her because of her autism, most holos aren't good conversationalists themselves, they get by in collabs by being loud and obnoxiously laughing and Sora quite simply does not respond to this so it becomes awkward

>>28171609
No, U

>>28062350
And who R U exactly? Professional atmo-tension detector?

All I want is a Sora and Suisei 1-on-1. People tend to think of them as polar opposites, yet those girls may be more similar than even they realize.

>>28171643
Lmao

>>28169874
Who started it?

>>28172632
Even Suisei is a little shy around Sora

Has no one mentioned Kotone yet? She don't take no shit from Sora and its the best.

>>28179407
Surely not anymore.
Has she said as much recently?

>>28066931
"She break her promise reeeEEEEEEEEEEE!!!"
What promise lol? When you meet her in your dream and she promised that while whispering to your ear?

>>28067043
Your theory is stupid. Deep down Sora want to be part of the fun things like getting pranked by Pekora's minecraft stuff or having multi vtuber collab but they're too scared to do that to her.

This is why she's more relaxed when she's with the IDs. They don't put too high expectation on her.

>>28179651
most people here probably don't even know Kotone or other Sora's friend outside Hololive or probably this was just for Sora's interaction with her kouhai since her interaction with outside holo esp her old friends are pretty much normal

>>28117725
Friendly reminder that she was doing this as a teenager going to high school and it required her an hour on the train to get to the cover office, the only place she could stream, and presumably an hour back.

>>28069372
I don't know about share but it's interesting that she wants to be an idol and Cover bend over backward to make her to be one. No companies will do that for a random girl. This Sora is either a corpo royalty (Someone Yagoo knew? Wife? Daughter? Family member?) or actual royalty (Japanese emperor's daughter).

I mean, if she's an actual royalty, no wonder JP girls are all act awkward toward her.

She's boring as fuck and isn't allowed to show an ounce of personality. She's basically an AI, her level of blandness is like listening to a chatbot trained on bad first date transcripts

>>28172632
i don't think they are polar opposites as they both music person and if anything most of Sora's friend are the old guards, vsinger and such but then again A-chan is a degenerate she is polar opposites of Sora in many aspect yet they are close friend for long time, tho i think Suisei can't banter very well if it's just 1on1 collab with Sora

>>28185653
At least she isn’t Kissmyass AI after the og Kizuna AI fucked off. Although I can understand the comparison between Trash v Garbage tho.

>>28185532
they don't just make idol vtuber group from the beginning tho, Hololive was just vtubing app before

>>28185653
>opinion
noone asked retard, i can say the same to anyone that they are boring because they don't suit my taste, get better bait

>>28186598
Cover started not as a Vtubing company too. Their Vtuber setup was a tech demo first. Then Sora was like "Hey, this is interesting, how about you guys make me an idol!"
Either she has Charm 100 or she has power to make them do just that.

If it's actually Charm 100, I wonder what kind of aura she exude

>>28062350
Yakuza.

>>28062350
They are all leaching from her (yes even miko that basicaly added 90% of the viewership), of course they are shiting their pant when they have to collab considering they are actualy working.

>>28185406
I wanna see a documentary on that
That'd be cool I want to know more qbout all the OG's

>>28187258
What the fuck are you on about, the OP is an opinion too, Are you retarded?

>>28188816
making vtuber app is still within their realm as tech company and Kizuna Ai is already a thing so it's not weird at all and Hololive wasn't really brand themselves as idol group until 2019, i mean if Sora has that kind of power since the beginning they are most likely already Hololive as idol vtuber group since day 1

>>28113208
Sora is the eve / daisenpai of Hololive

>>28190258
the thread is not about "why don't you watch Sora?" or "what you like or don't like about Sora" he is clearly just baiting with his opinion noone asked retard

>>28190606
(Me)
also OP is not really an opinion since many of other talent clearly act different when they interact with Sora, you would know that if you watch stream or even a clipnigger faggot

>>28190188
uh, how about random facts. roboco is older than her debut because roboco is a character the artist created before roboco herself even existed. they then just kind of acquired it to give it roboco.

>>28190606
>Collabs with Sora always feel like there's some tension in the air
>why is that?
>why is that?

they did literally ask that

>>28191380
and how is that answer "tension in the air", just fuck off you can't even bait properly

>>28193131
There's tension because she's boring as shit and it's difficult to talk to boring people, it doesn't get any deeper than that. Why would I want to bait about your boring oshi? Most fans forget about her half the time or think she's already retired anyways

>>28193237
hey boomer you're gonna have a heart attack, chill out, we get it, you don't like Sora, it's alright lmao

Why so much Sora hate? she doesn't seem like she does anything harmful and see like she's loves her kohais and that hololive is a big group.
if there's tension it's probably a locker room joke by the talents treating sora like some unfathomable expert is either a joke because she's nice and down to earth or a Japanese thing in showing respect to senpai.

>>28193237
and talking to boring people makes you suddenly act tense and being polite ? you're not fooling anyone catalog browser nigger

>>28191220
That can be incorporated to her lore. Like she used to be just a basic robot but the AI gained sentience and she gained a soul.

>>28062493
it's true, you can see it take effect here
https://youtu.be/8d4LnRn1jds?t=86

>>28193686
i don't see any hate besides some rrat and bait post

>>28193686
it's just one angry dude

>>28193865
This. Sadly, even Sora’s fanbase has retards that keep falling for it.

>personality
What does that mean?
I mean she hates insect, can"t cook, don't really care about lewds and jokes usually flying over her head
She loves singing, dancing, moving around on stage, interacting with fans on stage. She prefers real concert to online one. Her taste in manga/anime and songs is kind of a boomer. She's not the loud type of girl but she could scream if she excited or scared, check out the first It takes two stream with Iofi
So yeah, if you find her boring then well she isn't for you i guess, but really, i feel like
>muh personality
has become a buzzword to describe whoever you don't find interesting

>>28194382
So get back to the question at hand? Why don't people like to collab with her then? It' because of trends in how she acts. Trends in a person's behavior is called.... a personality. They don't like to collab because of her personality, glad we cleared that up . Seriously not even trying to bait, it's just not that dramatic of an answer.

>>28194184
I don't think many actual fans lurk here desu
this place is for rrats and there's not much to talk about
She's not my oshi but I watch streams sometimes and I love her music ever since my pro-OSU! days but I never come here to talk about Sora cause we don't like drama and shit

>>28062350
If there's tension it's because japanese are autismal as fuck about status bullshit and seniority, they are literally programmed to never treat each other as equals from the day they are born.

That's why she gets along well with ID because they aren't autistic in the same way and actually talk to her like a normal person.

ive read the thread in full detail. dunno why ive invested this much time on a sora thread.
my conclusion someones needs to graduate
and thank god its sana will it be 2nd gens next? except choco and subaru

>>28194382
>personality
>What does that mean?
supreme kek. "Personality is just a buzzword for how they act and what they like" is the stupidest single thing I've read on /vt/ and that's saying something

>>28194837
The uggo one

>>28194837
is it worth reading? or is it all just sora rrats?

>>28194382
>defending her personality
>"uhhhh she can't cook!"

that'll show 'em sora-anon... keep fighting the good fight

>>28062350
Her collab with Watame is normal tho. Watame even teased her about how her room is dirty because she sneezed multiple times in that stream

>>28190188
it already exists, it's called "The Idolm@ster"
good anime
>>28195453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uusW6A4qm8k

>>28195587
kek

>>28195587
don't worry Sora i will cooking you can eating

>>28194382
>personality is a buzzword
so this is the game we`re playing today, huh

>>28195587
She's just like me!

>>28184964
She spent a whole year claiming how good being an indie was and shitting on vtuber agencies just to join one once her non-compete clause had expired.

>>28067220
>JPSorafags have very low tolerance for any form of disrespect.
Did they attack some vtuber?

>>28200875
iirc Yes. In the past some Holos were not exactly rude to Sora, but some Soratomos (maybe just schizos) are not happy. 5ch and jp side stuff. I think incident like this has not happened for a very long time.

Japanese are very strict about status and etiquette. Something hard for western people to understand. Just like japs don't understand why westoids hate loli.

>>28200875
No, don't trust anything you read online. I am a Soratomo and I can tell you most of us welcome any kind of interaction between Sora and other holos.

>>28201999
The fuck are you on about? That never happened.

Can you really blame her for not being the one to ask other holomembers to collab?

>>28199052
it was probably fun at first but dealing with indies can apparently be very draining. I remember that en homo who posted on twitter begging any company to take him in because he was tired of his fellow indie vtubers

>>28063733
Well, at least the "idol culture" in vtubers.

>>28062350
She's tired of her job

why didn't she stop holostars

>>28211297
why ?

>>28103624
I would rather keep all of the trash but also Nene than to lose her.

>>28067152
Know what?