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Thoughts on TTS vtubers? Is this the only viable option for men trying to get into the vtuber game?

>> No.288662

The only ones I know of are Zen and Kromia and they're both dudes IRL. Who else does TTS?

>> No.288699

>>288612
I can't tolerate the sound of it. I would just rather they use their voice, whether it be male or female. Otherwise it's a hard pass.

>> No.288726

>>288662
It is unconfirmed whether Zen is male or not

>> No.288769

Zen used to supplement the TTS with the 3D model making gestures and movements that match what was being said. In a lot of cases that 3D model would be doing something so vastly different from the monotone of the TTS that it becomes hilarious. Plus Zen gets freaked out by stuff really easily so you always know when she gets scared by something. The new 2D model loses some of that functionality though now the face is more expressive. One of the limitations of the 3D model was that the only thing the motion tracker could capture was the eyes due to the mouth movements being tied only to the TTS (IE it would never register Zen smiling or laughing like other facerig systems) but the 2D model now shows a full range of facial emotions while the tradeoff is now you can see the lips moving when Zen is actually talking vs. when the TTS engages and repeats what is being said.

However there's another 3D model on the way based on the current 2D model so she'll be back to making additional gestures and movements to go along with the better facial tracking. Whether she uses the 3D model all the time or not remains to be seen.

>> No.288795

>>288612
>tts
Literally just for men who can’t even get a believable female voice with a voice changer

>> No.288803

>>288726
Yeah but the possibility exists so it can't be outright denied either. Zen has only identified herself as "Zen" never specifying male or female.

>> No.288819

>>288612
>Is this the only viable option for men trying to get into the vtuber game?
You could just be entertaining. Like Dr.Disrespect but with an avatar?

>> No.288844

Why doesn’t this dumb faggot use a voice changer?

>> No.288873

>>288844
Because that would be even more obvious. Everyone already suspects Zen's a dude but with TTS there's at least some ambiguity.

>> No.288903

I think it's just really lame. You might as well just type into the chat and never talk.

>> No.288930

>>288726
I've heard it's a couple, either way there's a man involved somewhere in the process. He needs to come up with a better excuse than "i-i'm scared internet warriors will track me down"

>> No.288967

double down and use a male voice changer on your male voices bros

>> No.289162

>>288612
>tfw no TTS Emperor vtuber

>> No.289207

Yeah, we can shit on using tts all we want, but it worked for this guy to get well known, so maybe it will gain traction.

>> No.289581

>>288699
>I would just rather they use their voice, whether it be male or female.
>male
But then you get people laughing about "that one guy with the girl avatar", which is what happened on /v/ during this year's GDQ.

>> No.289666

>>288795

What voice changer do they use?

>> No.289692

>>289162

It'd be cool but Gee Dubs would be up in your face with a C&D so fast...

>> No.289845

>>289581
I mean, I understand why if Zen is a male that he is using TTS, but I still personally wouldn't mind.

>> No.289881

>>288903
That's what Zen used to do but with word balloons that would appear on the screen.

>> No.289923

>>288930
Except that's actually a very valid excuse for any vtuber or streamer. Anonymity is a good thing and people love to dox.

>>289845
I'm sure every member of Zen's fanbase has dealt with this on their own already and probably decided they don't fucking care. But they don't push the issue either because why bother.

>> No.289929

>>289581
Babiniku is an established thing with vtubers, no one would find it strange at all. There are probably thousands of male with female avatar chuubas out there.

>> No.289998

>>289929
>no one would find it strange at all
No one except newfags and normies, that is.

>> No.292766

>>288612
I click off anything TTS so it's not viable at all.

>> No.293190

I would rather watch a male vtuber with a male avatar and a male voice, than listen to TTS.

>> No.293349
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Also not to alarm anybody but Zen is life right now and taking a shot for (almost) every time she dies in Crash Bandicoot and well apparently we're all drunk too because we're seeing double.

>> No.293590

>>289929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s9nPOCjy6o

I needed an excuse to post this.

>> No.298419

>>289929
>Babiniku
I've always wondered where that word comes from. Something... meat?

>> No.298504

>>298419
It’s short for BAacharu BIshojo juNIKU, or virtual beautiful girl reincarnation in english.

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>>288699
Nahh, Tomari is an uncle who use voice changer, he/she still got good following and have good networking with other vtubers.

>> No.298671

>>288726
Really? People believe this lol? There's that video and the fact that in it, the "girl" knew nothing about what she was talking about. She called one of "her" best friends from back then by the wrong name. Everyone called him "Seven" (Username was VII) and even Zen had called him that in text. The girl calls him Vi?

>> No.300978

>>288612
Zen used to have this Russian military officer thing going on which was way better than her current dragon lady thing. I actually like the TTS with her because it's different. I liked it even better when she had the comic book word bubble on screen.

I hate that vshujo made her change everything. I haven't heard her even mention the ALA since.

>> No.301464

>>288612
A vtubers main asset is their voice, that's the only human connection we have with them with their actual appearance replaced by an anime avatar, why the FUCK would I want to listen to them also talk using artificial TTS shit? It's unbelievably stupid.

>> No.301537

>>288795
>>288844
There is no such thing as a believable voice changer. The tech does not exist.

>> No.301736

>>298671
You do know nothing in that video is verifiable right? Like at no point do the people talking ever refer to themselves as Zen.

>> No.301802

>>300978
>vshujo made her change everything

Or yknow Zen wanted to change it herself because the ALA was a VRChat roleplay thing that maybe she didn't want to continue in a new venture. Her current character is an isekai'd dragon and when someone asked about the ALA she said "what the fuck is the ALA?" (with a smile). Her fans don't give a fuck about the ALA anymore either.

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>>301464
Not every vtuber has to be a parasocial relationship or a waifu, some are just characters to laugh at. I find more comfort in Zen for that reason, she is obviously a guy, but the point it's that it's a character.

I mean I got into vtubers since I find the mix of fiction and real time spontaneity very interesting, sadly most are just normie girls with an avatar, nothing "virtual" or fictional about it. Very few take advantage of it like the Omega sisters throwing their heads off like volleyballs.

I agree that TTS is monotonous as fuck, but if there was no value on it, Hatsune Miku wouldn't be a thing.

>> No.305859

The fact Zen is the only member of vshojo using TTS suggests they're not just male(why would vshojo be opposed to hiring actual male vtubers?) but some fat balding middle-aged neckbeard with a cringey as fuck voice.

That's kinda what you're implying when you use TTS instead of just your real voice even for babiniku vtubers.

>> No.306556

>>305859
>Why would Virtual Pretty Virgin Girls be opposed to hiring a male?

>> No.306576

>>306556
>virgin girls
>melody
>froot
>nyanners
retard

>> No.306709

I know a female who wont go on voice. Not sure why they're kind of the insane type. Does Zentreya believe in flat earth theories? Might be a woman if that's the case.

>> No.306885

>>305859
Some of you folks jump to some very stretched concussions on shit.

>>306556
Zen has been doing this for over three years and Mouse is one of her closest friends and Mouse doesn't appear to give a fuck. Zen has interacted with and known people who have gone in to stream themselves like Nagzz and Lost Pause and neither of them have ever said anything about Zen being a guy. It's possible they don't know, or don't care, but it'd be really unlikely Zen has gone this long without somebody knowing the truth and it getting out. For the record tho, someone with LP opined once about Zen being two people, a boyfriend girlfriend duo, which is where that rumor started, but LP never stated for sure they knew. That's the closest we've ever come to someone outing Zen from the old days.

>>306709

Zen is her own brand of crazy.

>> No.307444

>>306576
Holy shit how fucking new?

>> No.307482

>>307444
Everyone knows that a shojo is retard, the name is Nyanners' shitty ironic humor because none of them are pure or shojo-like.

>> No.311613

>>288726
>It is unconfirmed whether Zen is male or not
What other reason would he be using a TTS than to cover the male voice? Oh wait there is none...

>> No.311832

>>311613
https://youtu.be/GuBhEAb2k_g

So she can pronounce his name as "kee an you"

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>>288612
You know, you could just go all out like Woohoolad and just not give a single fuck.
Babiniku is not something new.

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