/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Was Axel a pred in apex?

Tempus won.

how long until this thread starts asking the girls for collabs for the sake of numbers

I have a good feeling about this new thread, time for some good calm discussion.

Hololive won

>inclining
How!?

There is one thing I notice about NijiEN6 is that none of them seems to have a unique niche to fill. Most of the members overlap their senpai in content.
On the other hand, it seems Tempus seems to fill out niche content pretty nicely. You have the standard fujo pandered with Altair, the FPS and sports guy with Axel, the shitposter with Magni and the boomer with Vesper. Tempus is more similar to a boy and than Noctyx and Luxiem.

In other news Axels cover has 146k and Regis has 142k despite releasing a day earlier. Axels cover is pretty solid though so I can see why

Imagine being MAD at Tempus for having a pretty tame successful debut

Bae legitimately did not fucking get enough subs to fully keep her lead despite being in that big-ish Among Us collab. Fucking how. Literally what the fuck is going on with her?

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>64,102: Okayu (Hololive)
>54,267: Ema (VSPO)
>50,902: Nui (Nijisanji)
>46,884: Pekora (Hololive)
>44,106: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>43,422: Suisei (Hololive)
>42,597: Miko (Hololive)
>40,629: Leos (Nijisanji)
>34,684: Vesper (Holostars)
>34,388: Axel (Holostars)
>34,258: Subaru (Hololive)
>27,803: Magni (Holostars)
>25,806: Matsuri (Hololive)
>24,460: Ange (Nijisanji)
>22,585: Fubuki (Hololive)
>21,880: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>20,725: Hal (Neo Porte)
>20,132: Vox (Nijisanji)
>19,881: Ars (Nijisanji)
>18,599: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>18,480: Uki (Nijisanji)
>17,423: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,158: Hololive English (Hololive)
>16,754: Kobo (Hololive)
>16,499: Nose (VSPO)
>15,679: Chaika (Nijisanji)
>15,139: Noel (Hololive)
>13,925: Nagao (Nijisanji)
>13,858: Botan (Hololive)
>13,491: Met (774 Inc.)
>13,348: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,698: Vox (Nijisanji)
>12,543: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,467: Tachibana (VSPO)
>12,409: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,184: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>11,735: Yorumi Rena (Nijisanji)
>11,601: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,495: Polka (Hololive)
>11,335: Luca (Nijisanji)
>11,056: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,419: Gatchman (Indie)
>10,816: Selen (Nijisanji)

>>29151816

Other than the ultra debuff zelda, Tempus do be winning

>>29152808
Well it's a good thing that he knows how to sing because as a streamer he's definitely the weakest of the group.

>>29152680
Master

>>29152851
oh shit fauna actually passed bae

I just realized Axel is going to be streaming in JP hours for his regular timeslot. Don't think it's a smart move.

>>29152680
He says he's diamond at best but i think he's just downplaying his skill
I mean, Astel is already salivating since hiw APEX tweet

Didn't saw the debuts but the numbers speak for themselves.

>>29152865
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice
20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice
21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal
22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut
23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal
24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live

>PER COMPANY
13x: Hololive
10x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ibrahim, Kuzuha
1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Luna, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
131x: Hololive
64x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
23x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
14x: Kuzuha
13x: Miko
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Towa
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Luna, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>29152746
Collab will debuff the bois. I just want more collab among themselves. Their bantz are kino stuff

>>29152790
so do no tempus overlap their senpais, isn't astel an fps guy?

>>29152746
Collabs with the girls would tank numbers in the long run.

>>29152851
shondo bday buff

>>29151816
>So hololive decided to use their advertising to rebrand him as a "wacky memelord" character and stir up memes about him. It's an astroturf meme campaign.
Anon, I wish I had the same faith in the God-tier abilities of Cover and EN management to make a judgement call and in 24 hours pull a complete rebrand of a streamer plus a massive gaslight campaign to drive the second fastest board of one of the most unfiltered and sometimes influential sites to spontaneously start creating OC, memes and thousands of posts per hour about the new direction of the channel.

If you’re right and they’re this good, DAMN, Omega I kneel! It would be a level of competence that not even business and politics can pull off.
My theory is that they’re not, they’re “lucky” as fuck and that the audience self motivates AROUND the efforts of the management.

>>29152851
Infinite debuff works. She is the bane of her numbers.

>>29152976
Podium..

>>29152362
How is Scarle doing so good in subs when she had by far the least wached debut?

>>29152976
>Didn't saw
Didn't read any longer, unironically kys

>>29152976
NijiEN gold

>>29152976
where the fuck is Kyo

>>29152808
>>29152917
he's a former utaite and not a streamer. he'll get good in time

>>29152976
this dude debuted to 62k people

>>29152789
he's actually kinda smart all things considered

>>29152746
Only retard do that, thankfully the bois are well behaved and know their place

>>29152619
Final /news/ roundup for 24-07-2022
>>29076596

Recent Clip Numbers
>>29059127
>>29059158
>>29059255
>>29059400

>>29153064
Well the pic is what matters anyway.

>>29152976
try 9mm to the mouth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGwVwmwHqcc

>>29152969
Nah He's probably diamond with the new apex rank overhaul

Were there any buff events on the HoloJP side that could have taken gold? If not this was a safe day for Niji to win.

someone make a compilation with voltaction numbers so we can stop the shitposting right here

>>29153001
Astel rarely streams at this hour on week day

>>29152746
They need to build their own audience. Anyone with sense has always known homobeggers did not have the Stars best interests in mind

>>29152851
Maybe she'll start caring when EN3 debuts. Isn't that what usually happens?

>>29153001
EN and JP audience, even if Astel attracts the EN audience it's still different

>>29153207
None
Can't win em all

Tempussisters what happened to your reddit army?

>>29153073
Blacks don't belong sorry.

>>29153115
I'm pretty sure you can't even understand the pic with your english level

What are Tempus debut VOD numbers looking like right now?

>>29152976
>NIJIEN GOLD
NIJIEN GOLD
>NIJIEN GOLD
NIJIEN GOLD
>NIJIEN GOLD
NIJIEN GOLD

>>29153230
you say that like it's ever stopped shitposting

>>29153083
What is that icon "person with a clock" right after the eye icon? Total unique viewers?

>>29153207
it's a fucking monday, we'll be lucky to get people streaming
there's like that peko thing but i don't even know what it consists off or if it's a collab or something

>>29153036
>they’re “lucky” as fuck
Story as old as time

>>29153001
astel is now a league guy

>>29153207
None whatsoever.

>>29153207
None unless Miko pulls out the dubbed WWE

>pandering to Japanese when StarsJP has abysmal numbers
What's his endgame?

Maglord caught up to Regis

Gold
>25) Ren Zotto debut
>26)
>27) ROF-MAO/Chronoir concert
>28) Mayuzumi graduation
>29) Leos 3D debut
>30) Marine bday
>31)

>>29153336
i think that's watch time for those meme graphs at the end of the month

>>29153174
>0:27
>1:31
>2:28

>be mindful of one's gender, be inclusive of minorities and religion above all
okay, I got this from the NijiEN thread. what the fuck happened to those debuts actually what is this shit. this looks like a yab waiting to happen, an actual ticking bomb

>>29153381
he want into the FPS clique

>>29153313
The pic is in Japanese.

>>29153115
This pic here is a good complement tho. Very respectable debut numbers, their pre Z peak of 81k is a step up from Noctyx.
Now, onward to their “debut 2.0” streams, if they keep up with the tradition.

PREDICTIONS?

I’ll be sincere, I don’t know where any of them will land, I don’t want to base my opinion on what the people in this board are saying because the reaction was lackluster to say the least.

>>29153383
>100k subs
Is that good? How far was Council after a few days of their debut?

>axel said he hates livers
oh no no no

>>29152865
I love Okayu

JWU, how are ILUNA's debuts? Any great hire or standout talent?

>>29153207
Pekkers TNT minecraft tournament thingy

>>29152746
The only genuine collab I could see benefitting both are Bae + Axel
The Aussie connection and both of them being cheeky brats would be fun to watch I think. And it's not like Bae's ever made the inclination she's some GFE (she said right from debut she watches Roberu??) so I don't think it'd upset anyone whatsoever.

Other than that, I don't think anyone should ask for collabs and collabs themselves aren't needed. Maybe if anything, a Mori Noir collab might be funny because of how old their minds are but that's really it

>>29153381
They need to connect starsJP and starsEN audience to build the box to support each other

>>29153381
He will save StarsJP

fuck youtube

https://youtu.be/p-3Yjq38GEA

>>29153500
hahahahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>29153474
ZOTTED

>>29153381
low int

>>29153381
Japs are more open to EN males than JP males. Shu's JP fanbase is bigger than 90% of NijiJP males.

>>29153500
Anon, I...

>>29152976
Yeah, with numbers like these, Iluna is guaranteed to be very successful. We can anticipate, in fact, I guarantee that we'll see at least one of them with a five-figure average CCV going into their third week. After all, we saw that with Council and these debut numbers are comparable.

It would be shocking if they didn't have those numbers. If they decline massively in CCV in a short period, it will fuel Holobrony shitposting for years. Luckily that's almost impossible.

>>29153383
It's going to be either Dez or Ves that takes the top spot. My bet is on Ves

>>29153381
His ultimate goal is to enter APEX tournament and have sex with Nose. It's the best way to do it. Don't agree with DQ3 on JP time though. I wanted to watch it damnit...

>>29153321
regis - 400k
magni - 370k
axel - 250k
vesper -210k

>>29150224
God damn, and soon she has bigger Numbers than NijiEN. It is going to be the sweetest thing there ever was

>>29153500
does uh... anyone want to tell him? You might want to sit down for this son.

The Kobo collab and Tempus debut give small boost to Uproar

>>29152976

>>29153381
win v-saikyou when it's back to apex

>>29153485
It's crazy good for Stars.
Council got to 300k subs pre-debut, but they got culled hard. Got to 300k subs quick after debut anyways.

>>29153601

>>29153485
I don't know. Council was utterly fucked by sub culls back then

>>29153500
They mog holoEN but not Luxiem or Lazulight

>>29153563
>>29153590
fuck you mean they hired 6 people there has to be 1

the next kuzuha and 60k debut btw

>>29153474
>starting with metroid
doesnt look like a good streamer.

>>29153290
Watching streams, Maglord got 14k with a 43k debut and sharing timeslot with Calli, Ame and partially Gura, Vesper got 10k during the infamous EU dead hours mogging Maglord having a 35k debut and the runt of the gen just got 10k after the lowest debut with 34k viewers.
Can't wait to see all the iLuna members getting 20-25k tomorrow in their streams

>>29153485
>good
>holostars
fucking yes

>>29153601
>guaranteed
Anon, this is just a debut. Nothing is ever guaranteed. They can easily piss away all their debut exposure and goodwill.

>>29153485
That's huge success for Stars. Maybe that 1M subs goal is not impossible

>>29153454
She's just a westoid. It's nothing different from what NijiEN already has.

>>29153689
Apex is dead

>>29153626
>sex with Nose
okay he's based

>>29153485
Most of them were above 250k after debut except Sana. I think Sana was around 170k. Kronii was projected to hit 500k till the culling happened.

>>29153698
Cultural differences. Iluna won't suffer the same fate.

>>29153601

>>29153626
>>29153381
I think the DQ3 stream is to appeal to the JP audience too
It's one of the two in the schedule to have JP subtitle aside from jap stream

>>29153563
>>29153590
>>29153643
All of them are bad compared to Tempus and Noctyx? tl;dr please.

>>29152547
>we used to be retarded
>why aren't we just as retarded any more
times change

>>29153746
for now. it'll be back in a year or so when he's got himself a good team

>>29153701
>They mog holoEN

>>29153766
Don't look at Noctyx number then

>>29153703
The only one that wasn't a disaster was the generic black hair, he was boring. The first one started stream by singing badly and then crying. That set the tone for the night

>>29153509
What kind of situation will Irys and Gura's gachikoi allowed them to interact with StarsEN?
Among Us?

>>29153658
Godspeed, Kings.

>>29153747
>nothing different
There was one difference tho; she said the quiet part out loud in front of the largest audience she’ll ever get

>>29153601
>Looks at Edengumi numbers
>Compares them to debut number
>Looks at ILUNA numbers

>>29153859
Also cultural differences. Iluna is heavily targeting the lucrative NA market.

>>29153698
>2m views
>100k likes
>60k+ debut
>sub 2k streamer
Never fails to make me laugh.

>>29153500
Ren might be good, watch out for him. Obviously a step above the rest.
Maria, Aster maybe have potential. Scarle might get carried by her model.
Kyo and the glasses girl are dead in the water I think.

>>29153758
At least press the translate button on your browser you fuck

>>29152746
Collab beggars get the rope.
If there's an audience overlap, let it form naturally and if any of the HoloEN gals are interested, let them initiate the collabs.

>>29153758
man, they're as obnoxious there as here huh

>>29152851
>Despite pandering to homos she's not growing!!11
Anon yes, this is the normal

If you guys compare Holostars EN numbers to Holostars JP numbers one more time I'm gonna fucking start attacking people. It's a completely different fanbase and Holobox. The Holostars have more in common with HoloEN than HolostarsJP.

>>29153485
Council was royally fucked by Susan's culls. It was pretty fucking ridiculous.

>>29153828
Just take a look at catalog, you'll get it

>>29153381
Its not as bad as the blue guy fujobaiting. Covers mostly male audience

>/ holocucks ignoring numbers and coping general/

>>29153877
I think, realistically it'll never happen which is what's expected but maybe a New Years event with all of them together. I feel like that's a perfectly fair situation to have the branch come together. That's the only way I could imagine they interact with the boys

>>29153828
>Gaytrap
>Mexican/flip
>SJW
>Rosemi clone, can't even sing
the rest are blurry cus god damn the debut is horrid

>>29153744
I don't know, one million is pretty big. Unless Vesper goes viral like Kobo did he'll be hard pressed to get one million. It's a big milestone for a reason

>>29153626
>>29153689
Is he good like Towa or Aqua?

>>29153994
Big words coming from you Budget Rosemi poster.

>>29153601
Based setup poster.
In 3 weeks, (unless one of these 6 manages to go viral in some way) you're just going to post a screencap of this post/link of it and dunk on yourself for (you)s.

What is up with the general pessimism after NijiEN 6 debut? Fucking doom-posting in here, in the /NijiEN/ thread and maybe Reddit as well.

>>29153994
you sound upset, who's leading on golds this month?

>>29153953
While the stars comparison is innacurate, the lack of funnel from Gura to magni suggests that they aren't quite the same audience either

>>29153877
a song collab with rikka/izuru/astel/axel
or at least guest on rikka's retunelabo

>>29153965
>blue guy fujobaiting
STOP USING TERM YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF RETARD

I swear to god, newfags are getting lazier and lazier

>>29153947
If that were really the issue, Ollie would not have 1m subs

>>29153828
see picrel

>>29154074
Have you watched the debuts?

>>29153956
I remember that. It was like 5 days straight that they kept getting chunked out of 50k-40k subs.

>>29153916
Yeah they wanted that sweet LGBTQ and politicalfaggot veiwers.

>>29153994
Anon, I just feel sorry for the real nijifans (you aren't one of them, because if you were you would want to kill yourself after the pathetic show displayed today), this is unironically the worst gen I've ever seen in my almost 3 years watching Vtubers. Enjoy your gold as a falseflagger and comeback tomorrow with your new "Holo killer" after this bunch of Twittertrannies go back to the 1-2k hell within a week

>>29153965
you fags keep throwing that word around. can you timestamp me where exactly he baited you retard

>>29153994
>Nijitrannies are coping

one of the worst series of debuts i've ever seen, whoever is doing talent scouting for nijiEN needs to be fucking fired and sent to the dodgers instead

>>29153474
>I don’t want to base my opinion on what the people in this board are saying because the reaction was lackluster to say the least.
You should take most opinions here with a bucket of salt, especially towards Nijis. But anecdotally, I didn't feel like any of the new Nijis were that special. Felt like Noctyx 2.0.
At least with Tempus, the designs are so scuffed that it was a pleasant surprise when they ended up being really entertaining.

>>29154135
BASED BASED BASED

>>29154059
>16 kills
>5k damage
You tell me

>>29154135

>>29153601
Nice joke.

>>29154093
Goomba is the exception, she's like Salome and Kobo where she has her own select fans who only watch them and nobody else. Fucking Reine barely caught a 500 view funnel from a 12k Kobo stream today.

>>29154113
Plz undahstand, there's no distinction between fujos and yumejos for many, even though it really, really, REALLY matters when it comes to male vtuber content(and anime content in general).

>>29154074
pic related

>>29154059
Aqua, he's Master

>>29154183
I mean, Ridenculous and volcano happened, it wont change

>>29154184
>>29153994
ALL OUT WAR

>>29152746
>girls
AruNoir is the only thing I want

>>29154135
Holy shit, is it that hard for westerner to not bring this shit everywhere?

>>29154209
At what rank, cause I've seen Roboco do that in Silver

>>29154264
this is why mito took a break

>>29154069
She is a better singer than Rosemi.

>>29154264
can tell me this clip? i want to watch

>>29154209
on newly created company account or on his own account?

>>29154183
Do they still have their retarded 100k follower/subs requirement people rrat'd about? If they do it's cut out basically any small but talented streamer

>>29154074
>in the /NijiEN/ thread
They are doomposting ILUNA as well?

>>29154315
I mean, HoloEN is relatively safe from it
Blame Nina and Finana for the current state of NijiCN

>>29154196
>when they ended up being really entertaining.
Yeah, that ojisan failing to make a tweet and telling stories about plastic bags was great, for the audience IMMEDIATELY captivated.
It is the gender bent age reversed “dumb pon girl that I must to protect” effect that Nene and Haachama cause in their audience

>>29154209
One screenshot isn't an indication of much. He could've had a cracked game and saved that screenshot for future use.
It's pretty disappointing that he's not streaming FPS games in his first week.

Tempusgods, quality > quantity

>>29153601
I hope people aren't taking this obvious shitpost seriously, it's set up too perfectly for grudgeposters

Say what you will about HoloPro, but the rules and the general PG-ness are what make their streams more entertaining.
But how did they find these 4 Tempus guys in the sea of 2-3 views?

>>29154074
The Nijis got good debut numbers, but Tempest showed the boys at least retained a fairly large first stream audience for Stars at least, so now it's a matter of which talent pool is better in the long run.

>>29154114
But doesn't Ollie kinda have 1 million dead subs leftover from the Myth meme magic halo of success?

>>29154178
>numbers thread
>let's just ignore numbers
This is how dumb you sound.

>>29154241
>Goomba is the exception, she's like Salome
Salome was already cursed into a 20k line, are you trying to get her to drop even further? That’s the fate of every “Gura killer”, anyone compared to Gura in any way ends up cursed

>>29152746
that's now how you incline the stars
roberu x noir - bar robel
aruran x noir - meme exchange/learn jp
genma x magni - drawing collab
astel x axel - apex tourney
softboy x rio - singing offcollab
etc

>>29154325
>>29154405
You could also watch his tourney gameplay, just go look thru the archive, I forgot the keywords tho sorry

>>29153877
Does Irys have a lot of gachis? I thought she had a diverse audience that watches a group but also supports her.

>>29154196
Yeah, even seeing it in a complete neutral point of view I legit, hate....HATE, the stupid 20-25 min debut that Niji does.
It's such a massive killjoy for me on how rushed everything feels. Even tempus with only 4 guys debuting sperated their debuts in two days, but 6 dudes debuting right after the other and they only have 20ish mins to sell themselfs to an audience of 50-80k viewers? Man....

>>29154577
/#/ - Hololive Global Global

>>29154577
>Numbers thread
>Let's just larp as a fucking retarded with 3 points of IQ ignoring literally all the context and everything related to numbers
Can't wait until summer holidays are over and all the kids go back to school

>>29154590
Not that guy, but random posts on an Indonesian number crunching board is not gonna make any difference at all.

>not much talk
It was that bad

>>29154672
She has a few but I wouldn't say it's a plurality of her audience

>>29154470
Probably is saving for the next season that starts on August, and the start of a season where there's more number buff.

>>29154444
Yes, the entire sticky was niggas wanting to strangle management

>>29154577
What's there to discuss? Niji tourists did it again?

>>29154712
>ignores factually objective information and shitposts instead

>>29154681
It was especially bad when one girl had a fucking 10 min lore video.

>>29154532
They don't have a sub count requirement, just a history of making content which I think is better and doesn't filter out a lot of people. Since having high subs doesn't mean you make good content. There's literal channels with no viewers and 100k subs.

>>29154043
People wouldn't be happy. Actually I sincerely think that would make people way more unhappy than an amogus or jackbox collab or whatever. The smolverse 3d holiday streams are a pretty intimate family-feeling celebration, I think the dudes would be seen as intruders.

The after-debut reaction seems very polarizing between NijiEN 6 and Tempus.
After Tempus was done, people wanted to watch more. But with NijiEN 6, there's barely any talk, not even the Nijisanji subreddit bothers to engage.

>>29154798
Why? Because of their selection process?

In other news, the /mans/ general is mogging hololive global.

It's really amusing how the Maggot King ended up being the best among Tempus, although it shouldn't be surprising considering pl metrics.

>>29154909
>There's literal channels with no viewers and 100k subs.
Yeah, like Omega's.

>>29154847
>shitpost
>when I literally answered to this:
>/ holocucks ignoring numbers and coping general/
If only this website didn't allow kids under 20 to post here...

>>29154532
YAGOO has a time traveller telling him key points. Trust the processs

>>29154955
>Nijisanji subreddit bothers to engage
The niji sub hasnt had a post since last december

These threads just show that numbers mean nothing without context.

>>29154135
I honestly trust Niji management to keep her on a leash but the fact that this was even allowed to show up on her debut is fucking grim

>>29154955
Check Twitter, holo bros

Holy fucj are /#/fags on MANS? Why that shit so high

>>29154909
Dunno about that, Moona doesn't have experience in content creation before her debut
Same with Kobo supposedly

>>29155014
That's because those guys are literally ignoring the numbers in a number thread.

>>29154909
I get Magni since his roommate channel is pretty big, but getting Vesper is quite a surprise. Even Axel and Altair are good gets since they can sing.

>>29154960
Yea, like what kind of fucking criteria were they looking for when they picked these 6?!

>>29154672
Irys gachis are overrepresented here but she certainly has them.
It's an interesting question to try to say for sure which audience has the most gachis. By pure numbers it's gotta be Gura obviously, but by ratio? Ame maybe?

>>29155039
No anon, you are wrong, all of them are going to be 10k streamers all this year, holocope, seethe, Gura killer, banzai ccp

>>29154955
This place isn't reflective of the general vtuber community. iLUMA had a bigger spotlight on them so their first few streams are going to do better than Tempus's. In the long run, it'll depend on who is actually better at being entertaining.
>Nijisanji subreddit
Try twitter.

>>29153381
He is going for King's throne!

>>29155126
i really want to know what can of filter they do toactually chose vesper PL. litarally 10k subs only.

>>29155086
Somehow the strongest thread. This is the power of EN that Myth and Council took for granted by being lazy streamers.

>>29155086
meido is banning homo discussion on global
check deleted posts on the archive

>>29155086
Plenty of refugees from NijiEN general

>>29155155
Ren is going to have more viewers than all of HoloEN except Gura.

>>29155129
Sub count

>>29155159
the only thing on twitter is art

>>29155049
>twitter
Ah yes, you mean the fans who don't watch their streamers and only appear when celebrations, karaoke and events happen? Great quality of people there!

>>29155085
I think it's more history of just plain working in entertainment, making content, or participating in content creation. It's very broad in order to capture a large list of applicants. It takes them longer to sort out the filth but they probably want that anyways since they wait a year between generations instead of niji that has a 3-5 month period between waves.

>>29155280
Why would they go to /Mans/?

>>29155320
Ren is going to beat Watame's number and steal her audience

>>29155161
Yeah this is important to remember. There are only two 'male' Vtubers in the entire industry above 10k average, and 1 of them is Tamaki lol

>>29154955
The reddit hub for Niji discussion is actually r/VirtualYoutubers

>>29155368
because nijiEN is on fire

>>29155159
Speaking of subreddits, the general vtuber subreddit was definitely more excited about Tempus due to Vesper, so it seems they're likely to be pretty popular among indies.

>>29153601
say the word anon, the magic word

>>29155267
Fucking based

>>29155214
if he told me that plastic ball story at the interview I'd fucking keep him on just to see how far he can get. I would be rooting for him

>>29155383
Watamage, strike this retarded falseflagger's oshi.

>>29155039
These threads just show that numbers mean nothing without Hololive

>>29155161
Lonely King of solitude...

>>29155267
kek

>>29152746
I really hope that Cover puts the leash on the Homos and advise the talent against it very heavily because all it'll do is kill the vibe some of the guys and girls have going on their streams, to not even mention the whole gachikoi audience.

>>29155161
In all of Nijisanji, there are only 10(Ten) males with above 5k average.

>>29152976
You promised me easy 100k nijisis what happened....

>>29153877
Gura is not interested in those dudes at all, didn't say a word about them (directly), doesn't follow them on twitter etc. I'm not 100% sure about IRyS but they seem to have a holo JP stance on this stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozU9gHMKIe4

Vesper's plastic ball story seems to endear him to a lot of male viewers since they find the dude relatable. Is there any flesh streamer that we can compare him to?

>>29155651
Northernlion

>>29153828
Just look at all the seethe on catalog and you can easily tell how uppity noor got

Unrelated but Elden Ring looks hard af, I play Dragon Dogma expecting some RPG skill tree or some shit and get less than Skyrim in that regard, is Elden Ring the same or it has a more robust skill tree system?

>>29155628
Omega blacklisted Sykkuno which made her go into overdrive.

>>29155395
why? don't they have their own subreddit?

>>29155651
jerma

>>29155456
funny story actually, the general thread in r/vyt was full of nijikeks seething about the positive response tempus got while Iluna flew under the radar

>>29155601
>Believing the words of LiARs from Lie:Verse
ngmi

>>29155368
nijiEN has been co-opted by /lgbt/ and twitter tourists trying to naysay anyone saying the newest niji hires are a fucking nightmare

>>29155161
the absolute fucking state of male vtubers, just 2 above 10k averages and one of them is a fucking woman

>>29155547
>whole gachikoi audience.
People barely donate SCs to HoloEN these days so I doubt there's much gachikoi audience left. How many of the girls can you even call GFE?
Seems like EN viewers are much more open to male interaction than this place assumed. I mean, just look at /vt/ since Tempus debuted.

>>29155691
They do but they basically torpedo'd it by trying to hard force growth via talent interaction, instead of letting a userbase build

>>29153503
Lol its not a 90k stream anon.

>>29155687
There is no skill trees at all. Everything is stats

>>29155651
Vinny Caravella

>>29155728
HoloEN also has those people tho.

>>29155691
Niji subreddit was incredibly dead until recently so most people just post on the virtualyoutubers megathread. Or in their discords or whereever.

>>29155779
Bet your balls faggot, I dare you

>>29155704
>Iluna flew under the radar
They got #1 worldwide trending, under the radar my ass.

>>29155731
Yes. Unironically, if StarsEN settles around 3k median/average, they are in the fucking big leagues, actually fucking giants

>>29155691
their admin (chinese mapple kek) is a nijifag but I wouldn't say that they talk about nijis more.

>>29155687
Elden Ring is arcade game design.

>>29155687
There's no skills in Elden Ring and it's not that hard to play. Like most of the Holo girls are bad at games and almost everyone that started ER has beaten it.
You can grind infinitely until you're strong enough.

>>29155832
they really don't

>>29155816
YOO MY MAN

Vampire Grandpa going for the double 10k today

>>29155858
It took them hours to trend despite having a topic doing the heavy lifting, and being botted to shit, they definitely went under the radar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meC7cDF1urI

Stop arguing, Papa Nowa is streaming in less than 1 minute.

>>29154093
Chumbuds only watch gura

By the way, the clip game is terrible for the new wave. Were there not any clippable moments or something

Vesper is up next, kinda feel bad for him having to stream so late if I'm honest.

>>29155704
>flew under the radar
They got like 100k+ CCV between their actual debut and the watchalong and #1 trending worldwide. They don't suit /vt/'s tastes and I don't think any of them are going to be stars, but that's the opposite of flying under the radar.

>>29155989
What, did Nijisanji already release wave 7?

>>29155348
Nijien big number > holoen small number

CALLI AND AME IS STILL STREAMING YET THIS GUY GOT 9.1K WAITING ALREADY WHAT THE FUCK

>>29154315
>Westerner

>>29155739
?

>>29155985
>8k off the bat
That is incredible…

>>29156069
Did NijiEN get invited to Anime Expo or Crunchyroll Expo? What about Anime Boston or Anime Central?

>>29155893
A lot of holofags did migrate there for discussion after the Rushia firing so now Nijifags are outnumbered

>>29155858
>>29156069
Sure, not now, but you wouldn't know it from hearing about the bitching nijikeks did on r/vyt because they were actually afraid

>>29155739
>Audiences OK with it
Mori, Bae
>Audiences OK with it in limited professional contexts (group collabs, Jackbox, A-chan moderated stuff)
Ina, Ame, Kiara, Kronii, Moomers
>Audiences uncomfortable with it
IRyS, Fauna
>Audience total veto
Gura

>>29156007
As a one hour stream it's not that late.

>>29156069
You can stop pretending those were real viewers

>>29156007
He already farmed his 10k earlier. Doesn't really matter.

>>29155547
Look, all that I know for sure is that you’ll never see Gura collabing with one of the Stars guy.

>>29155348
>presents numbers
>starts talking about the quality of viewers
Should we divide Vox's numbers by half since chinks are only worth 1/2 a normal human being?

>>29156103
Sure anon, see you in a month when they all turns into sub 3k chuuba

The viral spike doesn't mean long term appeal but it does show that Nijisanji did better marketing. Although Cover can save themselves with new HoloEN girls.

why is 4stats bugged

>>29156145
5ch buff

>>29155161
Even Salome is falling behind now, only the King is left to carry the burden.

>>29154798
So this is why nijisister got uppity and sperged out on the entire board huh

>>29156157
If you think those are gachikoi donation numbers, idk what to tell you.

>>29156145
What part of
>Different market
You don't understand?

>>29156263
They like Noir?

Honestly the moment I hear Noir's opening theme I feel like I just want to go make coffee and relax, what is this magic

>>29155161
Where is chinman?

> /vt/ is100 post per minute
NijiEN debut? they're getting more and more popular. When will they overtake holoEN to become the next kings of vtubing outside japan?

>>29155929

>>29156252
>Save themselves
Stop pretending like this new wave won't be 3views in a week

>>29156252
>Google Trends
Anon, at least learn how it works before shitposting with it

>>29155832
In a very SMALL amount, the hard "no politics" rule from back in the day really filtered them out.

>>29156145
Ame already debuffed herself to the point where only teammates watch her, and Mori's personality also filters a lot of people. There's a bunch of EN watchers who would just not be watching any holos at all right now.

>>29156333
Nigger, outside of Mori who's all in on fucking merch, it's the exact same (if not more in Fauna's case) than it has been six months ago. This isn't fucking NijiEN where they have autistic chinese women dumping their life savings just to get a smooch.

>>29156252
HomoEN being compared to NijiEN main means that their brand could grow. You guys are underestimating HoloEN. EN3 will have more hype than Holox

>>29156194
>Kiara
roru you never watch her huh
Kiara is the Flare of HoloEN

What is /#/'s opinion of the homos doing these 1 hour relays

>>29156348
He doesn't stream enough to be counted

>>29156345
4ch has magni and 5ch has uncle nowa

>>29156350
Check the threads with the highest speed anon

>>29156145
>>29155985
Anons, could it be that he actually manages to know the mythical Yumejoshi?

>>29156360
We don't know that. Although I do know that the only one in Tempus with a solid existing audience was Deez.

>>29156350
Zot's new EP is already surpassing BTS and he is preparing for his concert at the AT&T Stadium.

>>29156252
Shouldn't it be Holostars tempus?

>>29155893
Also one of the mods there is a famous holoclipper, but he ousted himself as a nijingger and admitted he only wanted to cloud chase hololive fame in one of the v discords.

>>29156501
Retard, Vesper is arguably stronger than MAGLORD

>>29156378
>please stop posting metrics
No.

>>29156433
>it's the exact same (if not more in Fauna's case) than it has been six months ago.
Exactly, they never had much of a gachikoi audience to begin with.

>>29154681
Nijimanagent is trully retarded. I fucking hate these type of debut rusj so much. It probably wouldnt be this shitty if they just take their time and debut the 7 for a whole week! ACCELERATE IS A FUCKING MEME NOOR YOU STUPID BITCH! IT WASSNT SUPPOSED TO TAKEN SERIOUSLY!!

This fucking boomer lmao

>opening with a twitter story
Based boomer

>>29156481
i get nothing

>>29156260
been broken for a while now
someone needs to file an issue because maybe he doesnt know
https://github.com/Nocory/4stats-site/issues

>>29156619
Ok sure but you fucking said "these days" as if something has changed, which it hasn't. Are you fucking ESL?

>>29156252
Bruh, at least wait a while so Topic search is available instead of the generic term. Put "kiryu coco" in there and see the difference between that specific phrase as both search term and Topic search.

>>29156435
>You guys are underestimating HoloEN. EN3 will have more hype than Holox
Actually I do think the next EN might be more successful, but there is a lot of unknown factors there.

>>29156591
What? No. Magni had youtube videos over 1 million views. Uncle Nowa was a 3view.

>Noir is popular
Is black the new blue?

>>29156651
It's /MANS/
They're already on their 4th thread today

>>29156440
Good. Kinda like the Gen 3 no overlap

>>29156564
And he is right because everyone is clipping NijiEN right now, even Sushi and Vtuber Tengoku.

>>29156678
I should've said they never got huge donations from gachikois. Happy, nigger?

Jesas this old man is adorable.

>>29156710
why are you faggot speculating about something that will happen next year?

>>29155086
Nijifujos are jumping ship en masse

>>29156756
Proof next thread?

>>29156545
About the same results.

>What is a quote retweet twitter
>How to ratio someone twitter
Actual Grandpa google search history

>>29156823
You have a typo, you misspelt "month" as "year".

>>29156756
>Sushi and Vtuber Tengoku.
made me check, 8/10

notLatina is doing a redebut without bots
numbers looking the same as vampire boomer

>>29155456
>the general vtuber subreddit
Nijisanji doesnt really exist there
Outside of debut times you will find more posts about Tsunderia or Prism or random 2views than NijiEN
Unironically unironically, there are probably more nijifags in the hololive sub than that sub

poll time!

>>29156859
>Google trend

>>29155739
>much more open to male interaction than this place assumed. I mean, just look at /vt/
Anon, for the must part, if much, this place reaction is the OPPOSITE
>BEGONE THOTS!
Finally some brotubers have debuted, I don't think people here would want them to have to pander to a completely different audience instead of serving the very audience they came to serve

>>29156252
It's so over Holobros...
ILUNA has proven itself the most successful EN wave debut yet
No interest for Holo EN 3 bros...

Debut 2.0 at 9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD1Nil9U9A4

>All metrics are equally valid
What specific cope is this on the nijicope list again?

>>29155691
No EN nijifans are actually present in any of the popular sites. I have no idea where they holed up in. Maybe DIscord.

>>29156145
Holo seems to be grabbing people back to the ecosystem. Council did the same thing where they brought back former Myth fans.

>>29157009
wasted design

>>29156619
Retardchama anon... Gura got like 5k USD on her members maid RP stream. EN gachikoi don’t supa as much as JOPs do but they exist for sure.

>>29156749
Wait, scratch that, they're on their FIFTH thread
Ilama/NijiEN general on the other hand

>>29156594
Are you this fucking same retard? >>29153994 >>29154577
Fucking tourist, stop posting shit without knowing how it works and what's the meaning of it, do you know how the algo for Google Trends works?
No, so STFU fucking retarded, posting numbers without context, without knowing the meaning of them is fucking useless, go back to your Discord or to modify your pronouns on your Twitter profile

>>29156699
Both of them would show viral spikes whenever an important event happen.

>>29155858
>#1 worldwide trending
Damn that's impressive. Glad people are starting to get word of NijiEN.

Brace yourselves for Uncle Nowa 10k

>>29157009
Holy shit that's a bad drop off. Worse than fucking Vesper RN on his 3rd stream

>>29155320
No anon, he's also a GURA KILLER

>>29155547
Dont worry. The homo knows their stuff and seems very ambitious. They wouldnt risk their momentum with some risky shit like that. They made it clear that they are here TO ENTERTAIN (You).

>>29157009
>same number as vesper
what the fuck? They really do use bots

NOWA OJI 10K DORRYAAAAAAA

>>29157094
Didn't read Holojew

>>29157009
>>29156901
If Noctyx's numbers are any indication, she should get 12-15k.
Lucky for her there's no NijiEN overlap too.

>>29157009
Ugly, looks like a granny with no teeth, she should keep her mouth shut

>>29153877
Why would you even want this?
All but a couple of JP stay away from male vtubers and even more stay away from Stars.
They are two separate groups and it should stay that way. Holo is not Niji and should never even think about going in that direction.

>>29157026
Literally on this board. NijiEN fanbase on /vt/ is huge proportionally.

Just woke up
How were the niji en debuts?

>>29154859 #
/MANS/ are freaking out by the attention. Kek

>>29157009
If all the new NijiENs get Tempus numbers for their first non-debut streams I will laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh

Incoming Poll

>>29157223
Not like you can read anyway

>>29155691
They gatekeep that shit hard just to be a contrarian faggot

>>29157094
This is my thread now.

>>29157009
Retention rate is low. Its even right after their debuts.

>>29157226
You're attracted to prepbusescnet girls bro

>>29157266
Ren saved wave6. He is basically another Luxiem member.

>>29157266
The worst imaginable. It was one clown show after another. One bitch literally started crying in the middle of terrible singing, she was ESL and also Chinese, no this isn't a joke it was fucking pathetic

>>29156436
Not that anon, but I rarely watch Flare, what is it about her?

This is making for an amusing horserace in itself

POLL

>>29155832
Just call them kfp anon, no need to be subtle

>>29157009
her voice is not very good

>>29157266
6 Home Runs. All of the debuts were over 60K CCV, all of the new livers were received well. The shitposting is 100% Holocucks falseflagging.

>>29157371
1 min 7k votes

Grampa 10k get aieeeeeeeee

>>29157334
Better than a brown monkey

vesp 10K

Oh this is going to be fucking juicy, he's going to make polls this whole stream. Precious data.

My grandpa got 10k

>>29157371
after a full minute

>7.3k votes in 1 minute
FUCK YOUTUBE CULL

1 minute poll
10k CCV

VESPER 10K

VESPER DOUBLE 10K

7300 votes in 1 minute with 10k ccv
kek

>>29157371
Sounds about right

>>29157371
>Giga culled
I'm not even surprised desu

Ojisan ganbare

>Noir has 2 10k streams on the tally for today
Holy fuck I kneel

>>29157410
Flare doesn't want anything to do with male, even when her chuuba siblings/Lack family collabed she politely declined because Arupapa was there

>>29155395
Have you actually ever looked at that sub?
There will literally be 1000x Hololive comments than Niji. If there are niji discussions on reddit it is not on that sub..

>>29157444
It's more SEX than any Holowhore you have to admit

>Ame
6.2k
>Mori
6.9k
>Vesper
10k

Uncle Nowa is being culled. These are like Fall 2021 Kronii poll ratios

>>29157102
Ok, sure if going for pattern, but the volume is much difference so not going for Topic can result in lower volumes of search since the generic phrase will i=only result that one phrase and not encompassing all related to the Topic.