/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>2964309
Did some players finally came back?

>>2964405
OP here, since this is the third thread in a row I am baking it looks quite dire, even when the game itself is not that much different from before.

I'm sure many still lurk over the day to see when it updates, but quite a lot have decided divvies >>> unstable daytrading gains + their time.

>>2964549
I was gonna make the thread but took too long to make the image.

>>2964549
Anon-chama, the subject field...

>>2964549
Do people really relies on dividends that much? That doesn't seem to be a good way to earn a lot of money.

>>2964817
I think what the Miko avatarfag is saying is everyone abandoned the game and is just collecting divvies instead of wasting their time daytrading. It wasn't like this before the Coco crash update.

>>2964549
>this is the third thread in a row I am baking
I don't have any cool images of holos with money and green lines, I will try making some for the next thread

>>2964801
you might be able to use it as new OP soon enough

>>2964861
either it really is like that OR someone was just very vocal about it.

>>2964893
OC is always appreciated, friend.

>>2964918
It's me, I was the one who shitposted the thread and convinced everyone the game sucks. That's what you get for crashing kaichou, zhonk-chama.

>>2964997
At least dev apologize and want to fix this, that's enough for now.
I hope they learn a hard lesson from this and be more professional next time, all of this happen because they didn't give a proper explanation about updates prior to the changes and just want some giggles to bag holders.

>>2964997
>>2965160
>crashing kaichou
Huh? Coco was 5k today. If you were holding a bag you made more profit that today.

>>2965276
I didn't say I quit, I knew they'd fix the price after the shitstorm and I could sell my bags at a profit. Mission accomplished. That theory that Coco's 5k jump last night was an unintended consequence of honk manually editing Coco's price was funny though.

>>2965276
The damage has been done on first day, people probably left and didn't bother to check the game again.

>>2964817
>click buy few minutes after price adjustment
>pay $100 more than listed price
Nah, I'm just gonna buy the dip and hold

>>2965331
My only regret is that I didnt buy more Coco the first time when she crasted to $1600 and then to $2400 and the second time $2100 to $2300

>>2965160
I'm positively torn between cutting the guy some slack for setting all this shit up for free in his limited break times and actually caring, coping that top 10 is just not feasible unless you daytrade all day every day and get extremely lucky with your portfolios, and finding the economy way too weird to give a shit.

>>2965374
>be holo's arc and have 2 of every coin
>do exactly the opposite of what green numbers and red numbers say
>profit

it's not hard.

>>2965441
I'll cut them slack for making an effort to fix things but they genuinely fucked up and it had more to do with lack of communication because they wanted to prank everyone for the lulz. The fact they owned up to it and tried to make things right is a good sign so I'll keep playing to see some future updates, but it seems like they need to recruit someone that actually understands economics(and not just a /pol/tard's understanding of economics) if they want to wade through all the "suggestions" and implement something that works.

>>2965441
>Top 10 for the majority of the game's duration
>2 hours of adjustment shifting and then ignore until tomorrow
I almost feel guilty for the lack of effort I have put into my gains.

>>2965818
Same, it's basically yurucoins up here

>>2965818
>>2965949
devchama, economy reset doko?

Any NASFAQ spreadsheets yet?

>>2965818
Who are (You), exactly?

>>2965990
Fuck off. i just got my profits back to green

Any spreadsheets I can make for (You), anons?

>>2964549
I guess the issue is that you need casual players to sustain this sort of mass game, and a lot of them just want to anticipate stream > buy holo > make some money. They don't want to wade through figures or browse youtube autistically. Something like the volatility that happened after the update might have made them feel like they made the correct decision (in buying coco) but then got fucked over for it, which weakened their faith in the game.
Like the more serious players keep wanting more things like options and shorting and rapid adjustments to make the game more complicated, but for the casuals it's probably already too complicated for them.

>>2966095
Keep in mind the game is being artificially gatekept by the newfag filter. If they removed that and advertised on reddit or even /hlgg/ the player numbers could recover over time. The key is actually fixing the economy first though.
Also I don't think casuals necessarily hate the idea of more complexity they just want to be able to see numbers go up. Let them buy 30 oshicoins and make a profit day-to-day even if it's a tiny profit and they won't care what's going on in the top of the leaderboard. Give them cosmetics they can use to show off their love for their oshi and they'll keep playing just to collect free shit. That's how gacha games work, even the most competitive gacha game has players at the bottom end who only login for free shit and daily bonuses.

Unironically though, is there a single thing in NASFAQ that can be spreadsheeted? I can't think of anything.

>>2966095
Honestly I probably wouldn't be in the top 10 if the game was more complex. I'm a big dum and I only got up where I am because the old econ meta was brain dead

>Coco price $2.9k
>Coco still has 380 shares
Are these literally owned by dead users?

>>2966318
Unironically yes, most of the Coco bagholders just abandoned the game instead of selling their shares.

>>2965585
thing is: how DO you make an economy out of hololive (or v-tubers for that matter) if not the honk way (free money to buy in, daily adjustments, divvies for hodlers)

Long autism post which might not even be that interesting following.

>>2966095
>>2966164
as long as new players means inflation, keep that shit out of the game please.

>>2966216
you could track your purchases and sales to precisely get how much profit you made off each transaction for starters, that's a thing the UI doesn't give you.

>>2966049
anon-chama, your top10 reps... Nasfaq$1000 it's nene pro

>>2966531
>as long as new players means inflation, keep that shit out of the game please.
Again, inflation doesn't matter because it's a game FOR FUN. As long as they give things to spend money on and add more ways to interact with other players it doesn't matter. Also the userbase will hit a peak at some point and stop inflating so like...who cares?

>>2966531
ok here we go:

One can potentially work with the following things:
- Daily/Weekly subscriber and view count stats (outsourced)
- "news" being twitter and the schedule (DIY for the players)
- Super chat revenue (could be outsourced)
- chat interactions (scripts exist somewhere so it's possible)
- 4chan thread keyword volume (fairly simple to script, huge data load to process, exploitable as fuck, hard to pull any meaning out of)

Let's say we want to get closer to "real" economy. Problem one is where does a player start, you need to give people a way to work up some money and/or coins to trade with. Really depends on what the Youtube API offers and you'd have to link your YT account (privacy issue) if you want Nasfaq to somehow relate your money to hours watched or give out coin that way. You'd have to have some way other than trading to make money to buy coins that's somehow related.

Then there's coins in general. Normally a company would do an IPO (Initial Public Offering) for a stock, which people decide to buy for a certain price. After that those can be traded on stock exchanges, people who came in late or want more of the company's stock offer more money than the IPO, sales happen. BUY and SELL orders decide the market price, and prices mooning usually means something happened that makes the stock more desireable. This had transformed into a self-running machine with people not even buying for dividends anymore, they just jump on any good news and panic sell for bad news.

>>2965818
This. Anyone who plays like a tryhard is playing it wrong.

>>2966592
(cont.)
So how to determine how many new Holo coins are offered? Right now a broker just magically makes and deletes them, but it would need to be determined somehow. If it's every stream, well performing holos would tank their own prices because they stream every day, releasing more and more coins. The usual sentiment would have to be performance good - price goes UP.

Making up something like a weekly cost to the Holo (Maintenance, Voice Training, call it whatever) which has to be "paid" by good performance and if not "paid" would "force" the holo to release more coins, this could work out. Stuff like Haachama or Shion would become a penny stock for not streaming, releasing a shitton of coins while stocks like Miko or Watame would get to keep their coin count low, keeping the demand up because they promise good divvies. This would also actively destroy money of those people who still hold bags.


Just some ideas really.

>>2966531
>you could track your purchases and sales to precisely get how much profit you made off each transaction for starters, that's a thing the UI doesn't give you.
I already tried doing that in a text file and failed miserably because I kept forgetting to add stuff. Theoretically I can make an app that does API calls to NASFAQ to place buy/sell orders and add prices into the spreadsheet, but that would end phone trading for me.

Also after the update if I buy several coins in the same cycle, there is no real way to find out how much did I pay for each coin.

>>2966630
dude it tells you right here.

>>2966049
NenePro Ltd.
I should clarify that I do buy when I see a big stream going on/planned for the day. That's keeping me in the top 10.
>>2966603
Exactly. When you daytrade 24/7 and use bots/alts etc. it's already over. You've spoiled it for yourself.

>>2966651
Didn't know, I've actually never pressed that button.

>>2966664
It's you again kek
I asked you who are you several times already.

>>2966499
The top 100 only hold 40 coco coins between 14 users and none holding more than 5. So where do the ~300 coins come from?

>>2966744
The top 100 all sold during the last 2 adjustments where Coco mooned. Everyone who is holding the Coco bag dropped out of the top 100 2 days ago due to inactivity/catastrophic losses or was never part of it.

Buy of the Day:
>Ayame
>Shion
>Subaru
>Haato
>Aki
>Towa
>Risu
>RBC

After the hologirls noticed holofightz, how long would it take them to notice nasfaq? How long would it take cover to send a cease and desist?

>>2967838
>Haato
Her shares literally doubled. She is going to adjust down

>>2967914
It doesn't make any money so surely there'd be no CaD right?

Haato is streaming tomorrow guys.

>>2967914
afaik their fan work policy is you can do whatever you want as long as it's not guro or making money

>>2967914
It's literally some funny numbers moving up and down based on youtube view stats. That would be like sending a cease and desist to the proto-dnd RPGs you and your friends made up in grade school. Ranks below even taking fan commissions for drawing holos.

>>2966095
This, I am only playing this game for 5 mins a day and as soon as it required more brainpower than going to the toilet I am dropping it

>>2965818
2 hours a day? lol I am not looking at imaginary graphs/spreadsheets for more than 1 minute

>>2966531
>you could track your purchases and sales to precisely get how much profit you made off each transaction for starters, that's a thing the UI doesn't give you.
not him, but do I make "buy price" and "sell price" columns or what?

Noel will adjust down, won't she? I love my oshi but holding her coin is fucking stressful despite the good dividends.

>>2968149
Tell me about it bro

>>2968094
>Implying I'm putting in more effort than looking at Nasfaq numbers and pressing buy/sell every 15 minutes
I'm spending 95% of that time watching streams and playing vidya.

All aboard the rocket ship.

>>2968295
POMP EET

>>2968295
...this bitch just wants to fuck with the nasfaq players doesn't she

>>2968295
Doing gods work Anon.

>>2966531
>>2968119
if yes, what do I write when I bought a coin but didn't sell it yet? Just "N/A"?

>>2965818
Why are comments disabled on Nene's last streams?

>>2968295
Ayunda Financial is actually Risu

>>2968352
Go to Excel general.

>>2968456
Chinks, as it usually is.

>>2968295
Risu makes a video about NASFAQ to manipulate her coin price.

>>2968523
where is that?

>>2968555
>Videos literally are just funny sounds but all spammed at once
>1.20 am in Jakarta so her base isn't awake to notice
>Putting out at SEA-active times runs the risk of not making it for adjustment
Checks out

>>2968549
What did Nene do that chinks didn't like?

>>2968589
Her fanbase is mostly ESL/native actually, and she doesn't get out of bed til 2pm like the NEET idol she is.
But I like the rrat.

>>2968597
Just a rrat, but it probably is them. They're usually the ones who bother her.

I was once in your position. I shall tell you the passwords my children.

rrat

chocoball

twap... (include the dots)

https://twitter.com/kureijiollie/status/1386750196156010498

ZONBKO COIN GONNA MOON

>>2968295
I wonder if this game would be more fun if we didn't spoonfeed eachother all the time.

>>2969164
But pumping Risu is good for me.

>>2968904
>twap...
Not working for me any other answers?

>>2966095
muh sekrit club will be the death of this game as numbers go down and eventually everyone will forget about it. there's no incentive to waste time playing this and you can't tell your friends outside of this shithole or anyone so people will get bored and do something else.

>>2964817
It's that the retarded new gameplay isn't worth wasting my time on. I'll just oshifag and be satisfied.

>>2965441
>buy high sell low lmao

>>2966557
Yeah I don't see the point in complaining about inflation. Unless you fuck up and lose all of your money and the coins become impossible to afford.

Alright anon, tell me. Why should I invest in your oshi

>>2970198
Stay the fuck away from my oshi's coin I need to buy them all.

>>2970198
You shouldn't. You should sell all your shares so I can buy them cheaper.

t. has 15% of his oshi's available coins

>>2970243
>>2970252

Your oshi is like the market. Busted and used up KEK

>>2970318
>projection: the post

I changed my mind can you all stop buying Risu, I had over 1/3rd the float this morning and now it's down to 27%.

>>2970198
No, don't. My oshi has irregular schedule lately and the dividend wasn't really that special either.

>>2970328
she is not a whore....

>>2970471
but the en's are all sjw whores

>>2970501
The only whores in EN are Kiara and Ame. Gura's too weird for anyone to put their dick in her and Ina and Mori are too obsessed with their work for dating.

Can you fuckers stop buying Civia I'm trying to corner the market here.

When is the power hour?

>>2970862
>being this naive

>>2971468
>thinking the JP ones are any better

>>2971590
The NEETs are. Or do you think everyone is as bad as Noel and Mel?

>>2971689
>being this naive

I bought 7 and it keeps going down, curse you.

>>2971710
You should do your roommate reps

>>2971752
There's a 0% chance your oshi doesn't have a boyfriend anon, sorry to burst your bubble.
The only JP's that might conceivably have no experience with men are Polka and Botan because of obvious reasons, but if either of them was your oshi you probably wouldn't be such a schizo since their fans are pretty chill.

Damn it had been ages since I last watched Pekora. Kinda forgot how fun some streams are.

>>2971829
>he thinks the girls who have so much anxiety they can't even interact with eachother have boyfriends

>>2971979
Anon every female with "anxiety" and "depression" and every other mental illness they can find on Wikipedia has a boyfriend. In fact those girls are the ones who get the most clingy and overly dependent on having a boyfriend to do everything in their life for them because they're functionally children. So when they break up with someone they immediately jump onto the next boyfriend/babysitter who can take care of their needs as they cannot function on their own.

>>2972083
Anon they don't even go outside. Quit playing armchair psychologist. Also I don't care, I'm not trying to date her.

Wondering if anyone here by chance has the dividend payouts from last week saved

>>2971829
>Pekora has so much anxiety she can't even interact with other holos irl
>Aqua and Shion can't even handle having to deal with clerks at stores
>Miko is an elite neet
>Polka has issues. Also Porka
>Botan is Shrek
>Okayu is a fat cat
>Korone is Okayu-sexual
>Mio is a catlady who streamed on Christmas
>Haachama has MPD
>Marine is too horny to have one

>>2972083
>>2972198
While his take seems plausible, we have to take into consideration that these are Japanese women. A female Japanese Hikki need with anxiety is completely different from Western women with "anxiety" and "depression".

>>2972512
>Mio is a catlady who streamed on Christmas
How is that even notable? Almost all of them streamed on Christmas except Watame because she slept through it. In fact they may have even been pressured by management to do so just to slay any rrats about having boyfriends.

so assuming haachama is going up tonight, what is the difference between selling 30 seconds before her adjustment, opposed to selling 30 seconds after?

>>2972578
Anon...she's alone. Period.

>>2972624
Assuming she goes up you'll be selling at a lower price and if you have more shares you'll miss out on the highest price due to the cooldown

>>2972813
She has Ayame

>>2972813
>>2972819
No, she has me.

So, will Gura super Metroid counted before adjustment or for the next day?

I will be dumping all 14 of my Shubas and buying back in at the bottom during the panic sell and you cant stop me

>>2973663
Next day, cut off for adjustment is 4-6 hours before it actually happens, I normally assume 6 to be on the same side.

>>2973738
Do it coward

So how many of her own shares do you guys think Risu is holding

When does the viewer count get updated? Poi gives her ~100k views but when I count manually I get 355k views.

Whenever Susan feels like it.

Jesas how much fucking squirrelcoin did you retards buy

>>2974512
around 6 pacific is when the numbers are finalized normally

>>2964309
HERE IS SOME MONEY

>>2974723
She is either going to moon or I am going to get a new Oshi

>>2974723
Hehe Yeb

Cmon you stupid treerat, post the rest of the videos.

>>2974723
I'm going to lose so much fucking money tomorrow

>>2975678
>lose
bro, you are going to make so much money

I'm sure she'll crater back down to 1500 after people sell, but I'm going to enjoy my 10 minutes of being rich.

>>2975678
Your networth gonna go craazy

>>2975839
I barely do anything on NASFAQ but pretty much all my shares are with Risu since she's my oshi, part of me feels like I should sell all of it right now so I can buy more when it drops back down

>>2976573
Weyland-Ayunda Corporation approves this message.

>>2976573
Weyland-Ayunda Corporation approves this message.

>>2976232
She will understand anon

>invested in en
>all but ina going down tonight
at least I have a haatocoin...

Sell treerat
Buy rrat

Pumped and dumped treerat, felt good

I believe that treerat will moon to 2.5k

>>2982165
I don't think it's counted the insane amount of videos she put out but her views are more than 5 times the previous day, this should be a Coco-tier 4000-5000 adjustment.

>need to be awake for adjustments or you miss out
>need to be awake during the day or you miss out
So when, pray tell, am I supposed to sleep?

>>2982401
Can't wait to see the red +0 and everyone panic selling

>>2966164
>Keep in mind the game is being artificially gatekept by the newfag filter.
>The key is actually fixing the economy first though.
Are we like beta testers then?

>>2982569
Her performance today is literally insane compared to yesterday but okay
I'm going to call you a fucking retard, because you spouted the same FUD bullshit about Coco at 2200 and she shot up to fucking 5000.

>>2982401
Risu pumping her own numbers for her loyal investors

Thank you risu

>>2982401
So it's not too late to buy?

>>2982846
In theory yes. Do you believe though?

If Risu goes higher than 2500 I'll be surprised, I don't even expect that. She got pumped 30% already and the new adjustment system is weird.

bears get fukt

>>2982906

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmiQbZmuubk unarchived streams don't count right

>>2983026
unarchived/membership streams dont count

>>2983063
thanks

How about now bros? Do you believe? 6k incoming friends

>>2983091

>>2983091
About half of those won't count until tomorrow I think.

>>2983091
why are people buying AQUA? Did I miss something?

The last 3-5 won't count, the rest will.

Numbers aside I want Risu to sit on my face and suffocate me.

You have to hold the most RIsu coins for that privilege, sorry anon.

>>2964309
risu make a fucking bubble

>>2983520
fix your cunny market first

I have finished dumping my ducks and will begin pumping vampire slut

>>2983589
I only have 1 MEL, I wish I could buy more

>40 Risu bought in the last cycle

>>2970892
make me

What are the dividends based on?

>>2970892
make me

Hehe

Magic.

>>2983718
weekly peformance of the chuuba's channel

>>2983797
thanks anon

please stop buying just because she scheduled a stream

>>2983182
people who are trying to accumulate aqua are going to fume at me for this, but aqua tweeted out an ohayo which sometimes signals that a stream is going to happen. She's not going to adjust down, her views today were somehow higher than yesterday. Now is quite literally the perfect time to buy her since there's relatively no risk, but maybe the views will change in the next hour who knows.

>>2984098
nice analysis

Please don't talk about onions in a squirrel thread, it's very disrespectful.

>>2984382
No. buy onion

>a few days ago Anon said he was going to buy $LAMY then crash her the coin by dumping it
Well anon. I'm waiting.

>>2984567
dev should add a dumping function that sells >100 coins instantly

>>2984608
People were pissing and moaning about anon P&Ding just a few coins.

Tell me about Risu, why does she Hehe and Jeb?

Risu will be worth more than Kiara after this cycle.

Why is everyone dumping Hololive? It has the highest view count for the day and will adjust upwards.

>>2984567
That was me, I won't dump until Lamy has an actual good day for once though.

>>2985247
I dumped it earlier today to buy HAATO

>>2984758
Why Kiara?

Replets that don't realise it gets nearly as many Hologra views on Monday as it does Sunday. More money for us.

>>2985247
It'll go down, it's the day after Hologra.
Check the number on the site (985k views) and compare it to the 721 it got today.
Hololive is a rather predictable stock unlike everything else - buy it up over the course of the week, hold for dividends, and sell it whenever they release Hologra to buff the numbers.

>>2984758
cope

>>2985247
So not until after dividends then.

>>2985327
b-bros what if they don't count videos shorter than seconds

>>2985315
Afaik that's not how adjustment works, it's not just compared to the previous day. Getting 985k on one day and 721k on the next followed by sub-200k for the rest of the week means both those days will be above its average and therefore adjust upwards I believe.
Not saying you're necessarily wrong, maybe I'm misinformed, but that's essentially why Kanata had such a good week last week, lots of high performance days which raised her average, not just the 3D live.

>>2985367
Then you need to lurk more how this work.

There's currently 626 Haato shares in circulation, I hope you guys are ready for the price to crash so hard it reaches levels even lower than her hiatus price.

>>2985445
I usually look at the 6 days old stream and compare to today's stream before buying, it has been working well so far

The funny thing about Haato is she isn't even that boosted by the tweets or the stream, she just rebounded hard after adjustment because people like the coin.

>>2985579
buy haato, sell hatto and then buy more haato

>>2985606
I jUsT LiKe ThE ScHiZo

>>2985606
>

You ready to fucking go, nutters? Strap in, we're firing up those rocket engines.

>>2986184
I still don't know who to buy

>>2986184
After sleeping on it, I regret buying 40 nut coins

Just woke up early. Today I will not hold the bags

I'm ready for extreme disappointment because she got pumped so hard today she goes sideways.

>>2986255
You were supposed to start buying Risu hours ago.

>>2986312
Do you think she will keep rising tomorrow?

>>2986184
I didn't believe it would continue and sold half my shares in the last couple hours I'm regretting it right now

>>2986282
not sleeping for this convinced me she is going to 5k

>>2986332
At least the same number, half of her sgort clips didn't count for today adjustment.

Congrrats anonchama

Holopoi still shows 125k so she's going sideways now, a bunch of you faggots will sell and she'll get the extra 300k tomorrow and send me to mars.

>>2986405
Sell then buy at dipp.

has it adjusted already?

>Hololive 2800
LMAO "it'll still go up" fags BTFO

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

nice adjustments today bros

What the fuck just happened to chickencoin

>nene

risu???

The server is a fucking joke, I literally can't even place buy/sell orders.
Remove the fucking timing bullshit from the new economy, it's not fucking fair that I LITERALLY CANNOT FUCKING BUY OR SELL AND GET PUNISHED FOR IT

>>2982569
>>2982726

Kek you guys thought risu would go to the moon for spamming her channel?

Elf disapointed me again

zhangs????

risu...

god damnit half my buys didn't even go through and they'll probably buy for a trillion dollars

Like I said, sideways, tomorrow the 300k gets counted, then she goes up. You retards pumped her 40% in one day.

>>2986553
She did go to the moon, that was a fucking 600 incline.

Nene please stop going up, I can't afford you

>Nene back to 3586
This system is an actual fucking joke holy shit. Nene is worth 2184 based on last week's Dividends and yet the stock literally never goes down. I think Nene might be the worst priced stock in the game, excluding Civia.

>sell ame before adjustment
>forget the sale is queued until 1:15

$0/0% is a literal error, her value literally hasn't updated because the server is fucked. Even if she went "sideways" she'd at least move up/down a few dollars. But the site doesn't fucking work properly.

holy shit

kek

If your balance is in the negative you can't fucking buy anything, even if you have 40k in sales pending, even though you can normally spend that money. Missing every single dip because of this retard shit.

>>2986617
what part of "prices won't be adjusted if ..." don't you understand?

>>2986617
anon your new economy reps...

>>2986617
zhonkers said overvalued coins won't adjust up, that's what happened here

>>2986617
Anon the dev literally said that if a coin that was supposed to adjust upwards has been pumped too hard, it'll show a +0

How the fuck did Luna go down when she streamed to 4k viewers?

>>2986628
>>2986632
This is a fucking joke

>>2986644
>>2986651
>>2986659

You are actually fucking retarded, the coin will adjust up/down. This happened EVERY FUCKING DAY even before the new economy system, this site is poorly coded and literally doesn't update stock prices.

how do these predicted changes work exactly

>>2986697
it sure is

>>2986700
>even before the new economy system
yeah, then they changed it. its working as intended retard

>calling people retarded and saying "before the new system" to base his retard logic on
ngmi

>down 6k in loss
>go up one spot
Uh...

>>2986700
>even before the new economy system
That's your problem, this is new AS OF the new economy

This market is so fucking stupid it's not even fucking funny, devs you are literally fucking room temperature troglodytes. I have no clue how you even managed to program the site, did you just buy code from someone else?

>>2986700
Yes, it did that when it did adjustments and you solve it by refreshing the page, moron. The ones after that are intended.

>>2986700
i have fiber obtics on my pc so i can tell you the price is updated, risu hit 5000 so you should sell right now

>already bought all the dips
See you on Mars faggots

>>2986719
Arcane magic

>>2986552
Haachama chama
I'm happy going full in now!!

Missed every dip because I was -$36 and pending income doesn't count unless you were green before apparently???

Yeah, this new economy was a total joke. Devs, you are literally fucking retarded. This is all the proof I need to know you will NEVER manage to make this site remotely good. The economy changes fix literally nothing and only exist to fuck over users.

>>2986756
>>2986842
Why do you keep actively samefagging at every adjustment? Normally I'd think its different people but its really obvious through your posting style a lot of this is from the same person.

>Shion and Ayame barely moved
>Now stuck bagholding 4 of each when they probably won't stream again for a week
FUCK

>>2986842
Just learn to adapt faggot!

>>2986825
>he doesn't have more than 50k liquid reserved
ngmi

I'm pretty unhappy with the update but the things people are complaining about right now just show a basic lack of reading comprehension, it's pretty funny.

>>2986842
kek what did you buy retard

>>2986842
Why are you so upset about this game? Don't you have better things to do? Devs said they're fixing literally everything people have complained about.

I should have bough more chama

>>2986921
LMFAO
Every single update has literally just made things worse. At this point there's literally no point in even playing the fucking game.

The chammers bump is more than I expected, also regret not buying more, gonna try and buy the dip for singchama at least.

>>2986898
THE GAME NOW DOES SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT IT DIDN'T USE TO DO BEFORE IT WAS CHANGED! IT'S BROKEN!
t. spoonfed retard

>>2986988
You're either replying to the wrong person or retarded, up to you brother.

>site is literally RNG to the extreme and insanely timing dependent
>LOL ITS GOOD THO I PRESSED THE BUTTON FIRST AND WON

Anyone else wish they could organize their portfolio under their profile? Order seems kind of random right now, it would be nice if it was sorted by gen at least

>>2987009
he probably meant >>2986842

I'm going to give you until Friday to unfuck the site and if it isn't fixed I'm paying to have it DDOS'd

I would tolerate the stupid timing based queue shit if the buy/sell buttons actually worked when you pressed them half the time

>>2987047
I did request this, dunno if it's happening.
>>2987037
Honestly the queue needs to go, it's only small amounts but when you're buying/selling 10+ at a time like you do after adjustment you just get bent over a barrel.

>>2987092
this

>>2986726
>>2986632
look I had faith in the system but that is just fucking retarded.

>>2987009
>>2987062
No, I replied right, I was laughing with him at the previous retard complaining about +0/0%

>>2987102
They did say they were working towards implementing a real time system

>>2987121
have no faith in system
only faith in oshi
pnd everyone else

>>2987092
no dude its the best bro youre just retarded git gud LOL

>>2987121
Value doesn't mean anything, numbers are just arbitrary. They were too lazy to assign any sort of actual performance-based metrics so the value of a stock is based off literally nothing. Stocks like Nene and Suisei will NEVER return to their actual values, they will literally forever be overpriced and people will only ever buy them so they can resell them when they spike $600 the next day for no fucking reason. Nene will eventually hit $5000 while Gura goes down to like $3000 because again none of this means anything. The economic system could not be lazier if they tried.

>>2987167
Stop skipping meds

>>2987124
Then I retract my retard claim, fuck that guy.
>>2987137
They said updating the numbers in real time would require far too much work on the server, it can calculate everything when a cycle ends but doing it dynamically would require a crazy amount of work. Also real time number changes still won't be that useful when everyone is spamming, I really think they just need to remove it, losing money because you don't click early enough is just annoying and it adds up fast.

>>2986628
>>2986726
But social blade suggests a downward adjustment for both their channels. What about the market suggested otherwise?

>>2986632
HIRU HIRU HIRU HIRU HIRU HIRU HIRU HIRU

"real time system" is hilarious
You actually seriously think they've going to have a real-time price updating system when they literally can't even get the servers to work properly at daily reset? And you think the extra strain of constantly updating the price is feasible?

>>2987234
I am by now convinced they're using the last days/weeks performance somehow to base the prices they predict towards (or rather, the adjustment goes towards) off last weeks numbers, in other word, we can moon any fucking coin we want as long as we hodl nothing ever goes down

Devs fucking explain yourselves how is Shion worth so little when she streams once a week and gets 10k viewers while Nene gets the same viewership and is worth twice as much?

>>2987292
they could just go with the power hour approach of fixing the price for an hour to ease server load which would of course fuck Burgerbros over even more than now.

>>2987282
They didn't even have to check socialblade for that, they just had to look at the channels, which was kinda the point of this entire game. Actual smoothbrains.

>>2987322
>streams once a week
you said it yourself anon

>>2987322
Because shion isn't Super Hyper Ultimate MegaMax Nenechi!

I thought more people were going to buy NANA, it was a small but riskless profit

You faggots selling Risu realise you're just going to have to rebuy in 12 hours when her 300k is counted, but I will have bought them all and you'll be paying more than the profit you sold for, right?

>Literally every coin is worth less than their adjustment after 2 cycles except Haachama.
Great game, really makes me feel like I'm sharing my oshi's success instead of playing a number sim!

>>2987373
Haachama didn't stream for 2 weeks and jumps 50% after 1 stream.
Shion doesn't stream for a week and moves 5% or some shit.

>>2987386
god damnit I forgot to buy her. I reminded myself like 5 times sunday to buy her but still forgot today

>>2987322
Nene is worth so much because her 3D debut mooned her to like 4500~ and they broke the economy system a day or two earlier because Matsuri went negative. So Nene doesn't adjust downwards by very much, even if she has a really shitty day, but any time she does even slightly better than average she immediately shoots up $500-600.
The thing is that the price itself is 100% detached from channel statistics. If we managed to pump and hold say, Azki at 4000, she would stay in the 3000-4000 range forever and never deflate because they didn't actually think that maybe coins value should be softcapped to their actual statistics?
That said holy fuck Nene should be triggering the "bull trap" and adjusting by $0 but again the system is a literal joke and I guess "overvalued" only checks for how much the players themselves have raised the stock over the course of a given day.

>>2987386
I intentionally shut up about it cause I don't want it to become the current Risu situation.

>>2987422
It won't go up because the system is broken, just watch. People will buy Risu, adjust her value from like $1500 to $2200 and she'll adjust by $0 despite 300k views.

Broker kun is such a bitch

Don't forget to buy Civia!

Oh look back to being rratman, I guess he did well today

>>2987450
actually she should've gone down to 1,6xx immediately after the changes or steadily every day if one wants a more stable market, but her going UP like this is a good showcase how the algo still underperforms.

or they play us a dirty and somehow tied it to 4chan posts

At least you guys got what you wanted, the economy is now literally unpredictable and doesn't run off hard numbers but random ones instead. Buy a coin you think is a good investment? Too bad the RNG decided it's not going anywhere, but this random coin will.
Also with how hard everything tanks every day I'm wondering if I shouldn't aim to sell literally every coin I have by the end of the day, what the fuck is the point of holding coins when nearly everything adjusts downwards by $500-600 a day? At least it might deflate the economy because people are losing literal thousands every day as their coins value vanishes into thin air.
Bear market, Holders get FUCKED.

>>2987556
It seems like a mooning and a dump sets a new baseline for adjustments to work from. If I'm right Risu will be 2500 this time tomorrow.

Towa seems to be the next Flare, no matter what she does she never moves. Good place for cashgang to put their money.

>>2987581
no point in that really, it all moons or falls back to where it was every day because of people with a trigger finger.

>>2987611
Could you SHUT UP

Haato just made me a happy man. Those fucking gains

>>2987611
What's the point of a stable coin? Just keep your money liquid and buy Gura at the end of the week.

>>2987422
I bought Risu when she's around 1400 yesterday. This is still big win for me, if she goes down again then I will buy the dipp.
It's double profit for me.

Risu pls shitpost more for tomorrow adjusment

Just gonna leave this as self-congratulatory faggotry since I'm about to drop to 11.

>Lost money on Risu
>Lost money on Shion
>Lost money on Ayame
>Haato's moon only let me break even after all those losses
Shitty day tbqh

>>2987435
Shion gets more vod views naturally due to her covers and Shion adjusted more than 5%....

>>2987684
gj, now get out

>>2987611
>Towa seems to be the next Flare, no matter what she does she never moves
Do you know why? It is cus I keep pumping and selling her to keep at a stable price

>>2987634
>no point in that, it all goes back to where it is
Sure, but it only goes back to that value because people are putting money into it. Every person who holds is ultimately decreasing the amount of money in circulation.

>>2987704
Isn't it because all she does is play Apex every single day? Predictable content will give predictable performance.

>>2987704
based and same

>>2987611
Towa is not a good "stablecoin" investment, her dividend last week makes her worth about $1350/share. If you are buying Towa at $2000 to hold you are making a pretty poor play.
Do Not Buy Towa.

Whatever, can't lose money if I never sell.

>>2987684
Should of invested in Flare.

>>2987806
>buy ActiveChuubaCoin
>enjoy Divvies and Inflation
>Number go up

all I need

>>2987834
Open your wallet coward

my net worth is fluctuating so wildly rumao

>>2987892
same anon, this shit is wild

I was right about my buys last night. Just earned 10k from adjustments alone, only to be negated by my main coins going down.

Towa is gonna crash upward

>>2987853
I don't give out investment info for free.

>>2987834
>>2987853
What he said.
>>2987945
Pretty much, but losses on HOLO are always worth it in the end and almost all of the EN girls took yesterday off, they'll all bounce back, it just isn't worth the effort selling them and rebuying between off days unless you're poor.

>>2987684
Godspeed anon. It's only getting harder after that.

>>2987435
You realize Haachama's running 7 day total for views before last night was 494k and she got 452k last night. Shion had 664k over the past week and got 277k last night. They aren't even comparable

>>2987892
It's kinda scary everyone under me is constantly trading blows and switching positions and I just sit there somewhat worried

Net worth just went up by $4k and I have no idea why, no queues pending and all my coins are trending downwards.

I guess this is the recovery after that horrendous adjustment as everyone pumps undervalued coins, but they're still all showing as being worth less than I bought them for?

Why do you guys want wallets open? What does that change?

>>2988039
the current leaderboard system takes your balance "right now" into account

so if you're selling some gains off, you immediately "get" x amount of money, which is gone the next cycle.

Actually, nothing changes except coin values.

>>2988067
So they can copy others investment strategy! .

>>2988067
Nothing really, I don't base what I do on anyone else, I just think it's interesting, especially when people have massive changes, it's nice to see what might have caused that.

>>2988067
I just want to check if your Avatar is matched in at least 2-digit oshicoin and if it isn't call you a faggot.

>Oshicoin
Sorry I'm too busy soullessly buying the high dividend coins.
I already have 20 Mori and 11 Gura and I watch neither.

>>2988067
Sooner or later the IRS will come for you

>>2988124
based

>>2988185
I hate rap and the idea of HoloEN but unironically tried some Mori after she drew Senchou back, she does better collabs than Kiara that's for sure.

>>2988124
Don't worry I have a lot of Flares, Anon.

>>2988124
yfp is a faggot then

>>2988253
I like Mori, she's based and suprelit.
Her tracks are Fire, yo.

>>2988253
Mori is cool even if you don't like rap. The way she shamelessly fully commits into whatever she's into is really respectable. She's also quite good at playing along with chat and reading the mood in collabs to keep things fun.

>>2988299
mogu is way better yeah.

>>2988309
if only she didn't sound so retarded

>>2988109
Which is dumb because unless you want to track their every transaction you don't know what price they bought in at. The dude holding twenty Shion coin might have been holding bags for 3 days and buying in is a sure loss, or he might not be invested in Ayame because he hadn't woken up yet.

>>2988334
She has a pretty normal voice though?

>>2988253
>>2988309
What I love about Mori is the way she's evolved, at the beginning the "this is just a stepping stone for her music" rrat was totally real but she's really embraced her fans and streaming, similar to what Suisei has been doing recently.

Anyways I bought another Mori

>>2988309
I also like her voice and that she's a raging alcoholic. her German learning was actually quite good, she knows what to watch out for, takes advice from chat etc.
sure she'll forget it all if she doesn't do it offscreen I wouldn't for Kiara, German is a weapon but her language learning capabilities seem to be quite good, as well as active talking skill. Especially in Japanese you need a way to bullshit out of not knowing the word for X, she nails that. Much more endearing than watching wannabe N1 Kiara mistranslate shit to her fans.

>>2988185
>buying coins based on their high dividends
>not on their dividend/cost ratio
Ngmi

>>2988477
do I even wanna make it at this point? I would have to out-autist the autists

>>2988124
Unironically this

Comfy Twapochi stream

>>2988477
Except that they're both high divdend/cost coins

>>2988365
Not him but she sounds like a bad funi dub (which is all of them for that matter)

>>2988369
I think the week or two after her debut when she was being bombarded with superchats forced her to realize being a successful artist isn't the same as having a large loyal following of people who appreciate your work.
As a vtuber she may not get as much mainstream recognition as a normie rapper but she'll have a huge following of very dedicated fans that she probably values more than being famous.
Given her roots as a girl that fell in love with obscure Touhou doujin music it's probably really humbling to her that she became more famous than all the Touhou artists she grew up listening to basically overnight and feels pressured to work hard to live up to those expectations.

Not a single Ina stream on the schedule, tako pls.
>>2988477
>>2988520
Ratio fails at a certain point, holding 20 coins that give 50% is nice, but 5 coins that gives 25% are far easier to unload, those 20 are gonna cost you.

do we dump flare now or later

Pochi is too cute.

>>2988561
You dumped Flare yesterday after her 600k marathon, now you hold her because she's great.

>>2988477
I'm going to ruin this for myself by letting all the autists know, but all the high dividend coins are also incredibly underpriced whereas all the "cheap" coins are incredibly overpriced. It's a weird paradox, I guess people see a shitcoin at 1800 and think "I can afford that" even though it's only worth like 1200, but they see Gura at 3500 and think "that's too much" even though she's worth well over 4000.

>>2988514
Lunaitos are the top of the caste of oshicoiners, paralleled only by Fat Catter and mogu

I kneel

Honorable mentions to 156 Matulis holy fuck

Could you guys dump her now?

>>2988561
This is not PnD like before, just check at early queue.

Wao coin when

>>2988560
>Not a single Ina stream on the schedule, tako pls.
Inflation from dividends will keep your coin high while you unload them (if you want to). Gura and Calli's dips always get bought up regardless so you don't lose much

>>2988593
Ok, dump eet

>>2988593
>you hold her because she's great
Sell her, got it.

>>2988645
Ina is severely overvalued thanks to Tentacultists, she's going to need an insane dividend next week.

>>2988631
oh no...

Keep dumping Risu please, it's only cost me 28k so far, you can do better than that.

>>2988805
What should I do to have Watame look at me like that?

>>2988805
Ah, perfect, you fucked up

>>2988822
I recommend pic rel.

>>2988834
It would take me 25 hours to sell all my Risu, I knew what I was getting into.

Watame is a touch overvalued, please continue to sell her.

>>2988610
This oversimplifies it. If you buy Gura at 3000, you get 1191.72 based on last week dividend. Noel dropped to 1452.01, if you buy 2 Noel at averaged 1500, you get 1377.74 based on last week.

>>2988774
Huh, that's exactly what I said idiot!
Just look at early cycle if you saw someone sell then dump it rather than asking here.

>>2988889
yeah except you have to use current market prices when judging dividends not what you buy in at.

PekoMiko Hedge funds when?

>>2988958
>he doesn't know

>>2988889
Noel is one of the few cheap coins that is a definite buy, yes. I would buy more but I want to have money available to play the market (and she drops constantly so can always buy in cheaper)
Noel is easily one of the smartest holds though, I'm just saying that a lot of the "cheap" coins aren't nearly as good as Noel and you're better buying Gura right now than say, Luna.

>>2988948
This only applies if you are poorfag

This history shit is broken

That's just the mcdonalds retrace, it means good things, /biz/ told me so you can trust it

>>2989057
sell some coins, watch it update to "way more" for a cycle lol

My father works at McDonalds and says you can trust this guy

>>2989290
what in the

>Aqua is still asleep
Fucking neet onion, I want to buy you but I don't know if it's a good idea yet

>>2965818
>>2966664
Just want to say thanks for this advice, I actually keep my profit with only one or two hours of playing after adjustment. Selling pre adjustment and planning ahead actually helps a lot.

>>2989435
I actually find that I'm making more money post adjustments rather than off the adjustments themselves

>>2989435
Not NeneChad but well done. An hour or so of twitter reps at the right time will make you far more than autistic queue fagging ever will. Average daily transactions are still down 30% over pre-update unfortunately, but this does mean that undervalued coins for adjustment are a thing again so it's good for everyone still here.

>>2989464
*proceeds to casually make you rich every day*

I hope you're all watching Suitan do her eigo reps in preparation for the kaigainiki blowbang LIVE stream.

>>2989565
you have no idea how bad I'd like to fuck Sui-chan's face.

After the stream is over she's scheduled to practice her scales on my balls, sorry.

>>2989504
Exactly this one, you just need to know what dipp coins will be green before adjustment and let others did it for my gains, except special case like haachama, coco, and Nene you needs to planning ahead.

I'm still mad I missed all the dips because being negative means you can't spend incoming, I may have mentioned this 3 or 4 times already but I'm REALLY MAD. dev pls fix.

>>2989743
>can't spend money you don't have
How is this a problem?

>>2989703
after a certain level you just buy red and sell green when you have a huge portfolio, wait for 3-4 cycles, do the reverse, repeat every day, pump all excess money in oshicoin and be done.

>>2989743
Anon, it's literally in the info section that if you're in debt you're not allowed to buy.